This is true the 430 is nose heavy, but using the #30 tiller I still run 4 weights off the front to keep it down when loading on a trailer. I have also made 15kv generator to run off the PTO directly 1800 RPM to get 60HZ that weighs close to 500LBS. I agree any attachment running from the front is not so good, but for ground engage attachments off the back the 430 is hard to beet. The low range is useful when pulling very heavy loads and doing ground engage work such as plowing.
Its ok to hate something but to make a video with BS facts like the tractor having 1000 lbs on the front when the tractor all together weights 1170. And the other BS about 1000 ballast on the rear not being enough. Enough for what? I have one with a loader and 500 ballast plus 150 in wheels weights and im able to use the loader safely and have no problem with traction. Again, ok to not like it but no need to make a video with BS facts
Thank you, you saved me a shit load of typing and an inflamed temper. Hate people who make up BS facts to prove their point. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit. And this video is truck load of Bull Shit.
It sounds like a tractor, it drives like a tractor and it works like one! Ya, ya you need a lot of weight in back in order for the 20HP reaches the ground. All tractors need extra ballast for stability and traction, duh. I put 800lbs on my X748 and I’ve had up to 800lbs on the 430. You could push a house over with it! It’s tons of fun with the 44 Loader on it.
Don’t let it get to head, you aren’t hurting anyone’s feelings. You’re right about it not being for you and that’s ok. It sounds like your only gripe is the size but that can be a good thing too as others have said. Sounds like you need some good tires like the Versa Turfs and you’ll be set.
First of all, I see your point on the front weight issue. But that actually would come in very handy for someone using the 430 for the garden as intended. I have a Kubota with a tiller on the back and I really need more weight in the front especially when going up hill. The front wants to come up off the ground.. So, if you put an attachment on the back like a tiller or weights then you wont have an issue with your snowblower.. BTW, I love the longer front end. Reminds me of the BIG 300+ hp tractors....
I agree with you they just look goofy but are cool in there own rights. How do you feel about the 1979 John Deere 316K with the Kohler engine and the dual front ports? I just picked one up and got it running again. Just want to know your opinion on them.
Thanks for telling the truth. I am so tired of people insisting this is a great tractor. It isn't. It's a 30-plus-year-old yard toy that doesn't do anything really well. The guys who push these things lead other people to waste their money and suffer. You do NOT want a John Deere 430 to mow your yard or do any real tractor jobs. If you want a real tractor, get a Kubota subcompact. If you want a real mower, get a zero-turn. I have a 430. It breaks down over and over. Working on it is horrible. If I take it to a shop, I'll spend a fortune, and my yard will grow for at least a month. Over and over, I've had to mow foot-high grass. Deere lovers think it will "run forever." John Deere, on the other hand, has decided it's an end-of-life product, and end-of-life products don't run forever because it becomes impossible to fix them. They are cutting off the parts supply. Some essential parts are no longer made, and others are unbelievably expensive. A muffler for a car with a big block costs $75. A 430 muffler costs almost $400, and It will be $600 in a couple of years if they still sell it. The grilles fall off because of the way they're made, and the first sign a grille has fallen off is running over it, which ruins it. Deere doesn't make new grilles. A used one will run you $800, if you can find it. My Kubota compact has a much, much nicer and bigger grill, and I priced it at $75. The hydraulic cylinders are welded shut for no reason except to cost owners money. They're no longer sold. When your seals go, which they do several times during the tractor's life, you're done unless you feel like paying a machinist $500 to make a cylinder rebuildable. The hydraulic fluid runs the transmission, so if you have a leak, you have a big problem. The loader, if you can find one, only lifts 500 pounds. Basically fit for playing in a sandbox. My Kubota has less that twice the power, but it lifts over three times as much. And unlike my Deere, it has never had a serious problem that wasn't regular maintenance (hydraulic seal...once) or my fault. The Cat 0 hitch is like a Barbie hitch. I have a Cat 1 on a 38-horse tractor, and it's about as small as you should go unless your garden is a windowbox. The mower deck is stamped, not fabricated. Removing and replacing it is a horror. You have to removed it to access the oil plug. As a mower, it's no good. The front wheels go over the grass before the blades, so they push the grass over, preventing long strips from being cut. A zero-turn's blades hit the grass before the mower's wheels. That's because a zero-turn is an actual lawnmower. This tractor is for guys who love working on broken-down machines. It's not for mowing or moving earth. It was a big deal in 1989, 35 years ago, when George H.W. Bush was president. Since then, zero-turns have replaced midget tractors. You will never see a landscaper using a tractor. The value should plummet now that hydraulic cylinders aren't available. I got mine for nearly nothing, so I'll keep running it until I get something better. Then I'll tear it up and sell the parts. I'm looking for a good used Kubota ZD1211. Now that's a mower. I should have sold the 430 several years ago, before mower prices went up 30%. I could have gotten $3000. Now it's more like $1000. If you have a 430, dump it before prices tank. Put the money in a used Kubota zero-turn. If you wait, your 430 will sell for $500, and the mower will cost $3000 more than it does now.
The 430 was impressive for the 1980's. But, the price was crazy expensive for, basically, a mower. Yes, it had a lot of attachments but, geez, almost $10,000 is way too much.
I 100% agree. I hate those things they're completely useless and can't get out of their own way. Out here we get a lot of mud and all you're going to do is sink the front end and not be able to go anywhere
Litterally nothing in this is correct. 1000 pounds in the front end? Constantly gets stuck? The moment you said those two things, you lost me. Dont go posting false information on the internet!!
This is true the 430 is nose heavy, but using the #30 tiller I still run 4 weights off the front to keep it down when loading on a trailer. I have also made 15kv generator to run off the PTO directly 1800 RPM to get 60HZ that weighs close to 500LBS. I agree any attachment running from the front is not so good, but for ground engage attachments off the back the 430 is hard to beet. The low range is useful when pulling very heavy loads and doing ground engage work such as plowing.
Its ok to hate something but to make a video with BS facts like the tractor having 1000 lbs on the front when the tractor all together weights 1170. And the other BS about 1000 ballast on the rear not being enough. Enough for what? I have one with a loader and 500 ballast plus 150 in wheels weights and im able to use the loader safely and have no problem with traction. Again, ok to not like it but no need to make a video with BS facts
Thank you, you saved me a shit load of typing and an inflamed temper. Hate people who make up BS facts to prove their point. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit. And this video is truck load of Bull Shit.
Couldn't agree more, this guy is a child
Why is it your garage.?
Why wasted your breath?
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It sounds like a tractor, it drives like a tractor and it works like one!
Ya, ya you need a lot of weight in back in order for the 20HP reaches the ground.
All tractors need extra ballast for stability and traction, duh.
I put 800lbs on my X748 and I’ve had up to 800lbs on the 430.
You could push a house over with it!
It’s tons of fun with the 44 Loader on it.
Don’t let it get to head, you aren’t hurting anyone’s feelings. You’re right about it not being for you and that’s ok. It sounds like your only gripe is the size but that can be a good thing too as others have said. Sounds like you need some good tires like the Versa Turfs and you’ll be set.
I totally love my 430 John Deere garden tracker
First of all, I see your point on the front weight issue. But that actually would come in very handy for someone using the 430 for the garden as intended. I have a Kubota with a tiller on the back and I really need more weight in the front especially when going up hill. The front wants to come up off the ground.. So, if you put an attachment on the back like a tiller or weights then you wont have an issue with your snowblower.. BTW, I love the longer front end. Reminds me of the BIG 300+ hp tractors....
I agree with you they just look goofy but are cool in there own rights.
How do you feel about the 1979 John Deere 316K with the Kohler engine and the dual front ports? I just picked one up and got it running again. Just want to know your opinion on them.
Thanks for telling the truth. I am so tired of people insisting this is a great tractor. It isn't. It's a 30-plus-year-old yard toy that doesn't do anything really well. The guys who push these things lead other people to waste their money and suffer. You do NOT want a John Deere 430 to mow your yard or do any real tractor jobs. If you want a real tractor, get a Kubota subcompact. If you want a real mower, get a zero-turn.
I have a 430. It breaks down over and over. Working on it is horrible. If I take it to a shop, I'll spend a fortune, and my yard will grow for at least a month. Over and over, I've had to mow foot-high grass.
Deere lovers think it will "run forever." John Deere, on the other hand, has decided it's an end-of-life product, and end-of-life products don't run forever because it becomes impossible to fix them. They are cutting off the parts supply. Some essential parts are no longer made, and others are unbelievably expensive. A muffler for a car with a big block costs $75. A 430 muffler costs almost $400, and It will be $600 in a couple of years if they still sell it.
The grilles fall off because of the way they're made, and the first sign a grille has fallen off is running over it, which ruins it. Deere doesn't make new grilles. A used one will run you $800, if you can find it. My Kubota compact has a much, much nicer and bigger grill, and I priced it at $75.
The hydraulic cylinders are welded shut for no reason except to cost owners money. They're no longer sold. When your seals go, which they do several times during the tractor's life, you're done unless you feel like paying a machinist $500 to make a cylinder rebuildable. The hydraulic fluid runs the transmission, so if you have a leak, you have a big problem.
The loader, if you can find one, only lifts 500 pounds. Basically fit for playing in a sandbox. My Kubota has less that twice the power, but it lifts over three times as much. And unlike my Deere, it has never had a serious problem that wasn't regular maintenance (hydraulic seal...once) or my fault.
The Cat 0 hitch is like a Barbie hitch. I have a Cat 1 on a 38-horse tractor, and it's about as small as you should go unless your garden is a windowbox.
The mower deck is stamped, not fabricated. Removing and replacing it is a horror. You have to removed it to access the oil plug.
As a mower, it's no good. The front wheels go over the grass before the blades, so they push the grass over, preventing long strips from being cut. A zero-turn's blades hit the grass before the mower's wheels. That's because a zero-turn is an actual lawnmower.
This tractor is for guys who love working on broken-down machines. It's not for mowing or moving earth. It was a big deal in 1989, 35 years ago, when George H.W. Bush was president. Since then, zero-turns have replaced midget tractors. You will never see a landscaper using a tractor.
The value should plummet now that hydraulic cylinders aren't available.
I got mine for nearly nothing, so I'll keep running it until I get something better. Then I'll tear it up and sell the parts. I'm looking for a good used Kubota ZD1211. Now that's a mower. I should have sold the 430 several years ago, before mower prices went up 30%. I could have gotten $3000. Now it's more like $1000.
If you have a 430, dump it before prices tank. Put the money in a used Kubota zero-turn. If you wait, your 430 will sell for $500, and the mower will cost $3000 more than it does now.
I can 3 times as much grass with my fuel efficient diesel than the neighbor's gas zero turn. I'll run my 430 till it quits, which it will run forever.
Who really cares what you think!
Put r4’s on and fluid fill them it will be night and day different, and can also get a quick hitch for them I have a quick hitch blade for mine
I think Alan needs to find a 322!
The 430 was impressive for the 1980's. But, the price was crazy expensive for, basically, a mower. Yes, it had a lot of attachments but, geez, almost $10,000 is way too much.
They used off the shelf 755-1055 parts too. The grill and hood mostly.
The 55 series was 655, 7, 8, and 955
This is a ridiculous “review”. If it’s not your preference that’s ok, but these are opinions not facts. The 430 is a fantastic machine.
To each their own. I have two X7’s that I work my property with and I think they are top shelf.
Is it for sale?
4x5 were a nice step up from the 4x0 tractors as far as fit and finish goes.
Biggest CRY-BABY I have Ever Heard😭🙉🤣...Must-have an INNY' instead of an OUTTY'😵💫
Where are you located ill buy it
lol you know you like it.
Cry about it
One Delta Ten Tango!
Still for sale?😅😇😂
Don't know what your problem is, I have no traction problems with mine.
I 100% agree. I hate those things they're completely useless and can't get out of their own way. Out here we get a lot of mud and all you're going to do is sink the front end and not be able to go anywhere
dirty no shoe wearing librul
Ngl pretty much how I feel about my sunstar
thought you despised these change of heart ?
The 430 is worth how much, $1000
why ask why
Wah 😂😂😂
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Litterally nothing in this is correct. 1000 pounds in the front end? Constantly gets stuck? The moment you said those two things, you lost me. Dont go posting false information on the internet!!
Embarrassing video... Inaccurate facts & overall childish premise.