Zanac made a lot of diplomatic blunders, but his intent shines through. He wasn't searching to increase his power or maximize his gains. He was focused on saving his people and, when that was not possible, he tried to minimize their suffering. He was even willing to take up arms for it, despite being outmatched. Flawed as he was, he had the heart of a true king.
There weren't really any blunders to be had. Ainz was going to wipe out the kingdom regardless. The only thing that changed is that Ainz had to put a face and a name to one of the people he was murdering.
@@dungeonguy88 nah in the novel he was conserding to not go ahead and kill everyone but then Zanac death happened wished they added that extra dialogue
@@shimazmunshi6595 considering is the keyword. and Brandon is right up to this point Ainz has bulldozed through much of the kingdom before arriving at the capital
For people who don't know why Ainz was shocked that Zanac drank the water. It's because if Ainz was in his position he would suspect the water would be poisoned but Zanac drank it without fear nor hesitation, which increased his respect for the King. He also respected Zanac because if Ainz was in his shoes he would not be able to put up such a brave face at all. Edit* I'm talking about from Ainz's perspective not Zanac's. It's literally what he said in the Light Novel.
I mean he already was going to die so why should he care if the water was poisoned? Plus i am sure ainz wouldn't because it would show him as a coward and he doesn't need to (he overpower the kingdom by a lot)
No he drank it when Ainz said he would kill without suffering. If his intent was to poison he'd be breaking his word on the spot. It was basically Zanac testing Ainz's word through action.
I knew Zanac will die in this War. But i was hoping Zanac will die in hands of Ainz or one of his floor guardian. The fact he get killed by his own people make me sad.
Zanac was by no means a saint, but he was realistic and heroic. He did the best he could given what he had, he was simply outmatched and surrounded by self serving nobles. He would have been a fine king, not amazing but good enough to steer the country in the right direction.
That's the whole reason Gazef died in the first place he died saving king Ramposa from the nobles who stupidly where too self absorbed in their own schemes until the main army died just like gazef had warned them would happen but they just felt like putting pressure on the king and their failure there caused Philip to grow to power along with other unqualified nobles. Corruption killed the kingdom long before ainz was involved.
He actually would be better king than his father thats for sure its been stated that he would bring prosperity and better life to his people if the coup succeeded (coup did happened but since nazzarick attacked there wasnt much to do against them)
Interestingly, after his interaction with king Zanac, Ainz was seriously considering accepting the Kingdom's surrender plea and putting an end to his invasion on it. That's the scope of the impression Zanac left on Ainz from just 1 talk, which further shines light on his insistence that the king be buried honorably; that his traitorous nobles and generals be tortured severely and killed slowly; and that the Kingdom be fully destroyed. After his death, Ainz genuinely felt that there was no more decency left in the kingdom. All of the pity, guilt and regret he felt for the kingdom dissappeard when he saw Zanac's head in that bag.
sadly thats not the case. ln never mentioned it and even if ainz wanted to, he wouldnt as that he would think that would create problems with albedo and demiurge
@@alphabeta6129 All that I have said is actually all true. Even though it is not shown in the anime, it's present in the light novel. The anime and manga are known for cutting out a lot of stuff that's in the light novel, one of those being Ainz considering to end his invasion on the kingdom after his parley with Zanac. Being cut out doesn't mean it doesn't happen though. It happens, but it isn't shown to us.
@@kronkrian100 even in LN he did not consider sparing kingdom. you may have read the wiki as it was stated that way (thought the same before reading volume 14) in wiki, but in LN he never intended to spare kingdom simply because there's no merit. and well walking back on his decision might result in complications.
@Crab in A Top Hat ... can you pls tell me where in ln it was mentioned ainz would spare the kingdom after meeting with zanac. Ainz wouldve never backed out after that convo simply because if he did so, he would lose the perfect chance to encounter one of the stronger beings in NW, about whom he would want more info. it was not mentioned in LN anywhere. wiki editors assumed that part and added it there. only thing that changed because of zanac was Ainz would try to kill them peacefully with insta death spell to not cause them any pain, and after the betrayal, he lost interest and handed the task of slaughtering to cocytus and mare and to use any method they see fit (doesnt matter if they are frozen to death or urned alive or swallowed by the earth). In LN, he complains about having to learn about etiquette of upper class, and that amount of things he needs to learn would never decrease.
@@alphabeta6129 If I recall, he didn't intend to 'spare the kingdom' but he was considering at least not going through with its full destruction. Perhaps allowing some of its people to survive based on his conversation with Zanac. Something along those lines. You are wrong, or are being incredibly pedantic maybe.
Ainz had the utmost respect for king Zanic. When he discovered what had become of him; he gave the traitors a most fitting reward. Ainz would have the poor king buried with respect.
Alexander the Great went see a defeated king. He found him assassinated. He found the King's written surrender and requested mercy for his kingdom. Alexander 's heart was touched by the request. He then said, "May the killers of the king step forward. I shall reward them and have them exalted before my troops." The traitors appeared expecting a reward. Then they had both were impaled on stakes to show all his troops; that a king reserves the right to kill a king . Alexander respectfully returned the King's body and buried it with utmost respect. In the 1956 movie: Alexander the Great .
idk why ainz didn't just revive zanac,he should be able to no matter how defiled the corpse is for humans that can use revive they need bodies in good shape makes little sense why he was so mad despite his passive skill and he punished those nobles
At the end of the day Ainz only respected him the same way a veteran player would show respect to a noob with honor. Reviving him after his kingdom got destroyed would have been more of an insult.
@@greenshinigami5566 it's better he doesn't see what happened to his subject that he wanted to protect so much The guy better off dead than seeing a bunch of pigs licking ainz butt
Zanac is just like Gazef Stronoff, both are great person in wrong kingdom.. He didn't have a charismatic figure, a loyal followers like his father, or intelligence like his sister, but because he knew his boundaries, always cared for his kingdom, and being realistic as possible that would make him a magnificent king.. Fun fact: the author himself stated in vol.14 about "IF" situation, if nazarick never arrived in NW and re-estize's political reforms are going Zanac+Renner's way, he will absolutely bring prosperity to the kingdom, he is also one of a few human that truly gain a highest respect from Ainz himself. One of tragic characters in this series...
Zanac was so right, someone's as powerful as Ainz having such black and white plans is absurd, and it showed how Ainz is a human in the inside, and Zanac saw right through it.
But that's how everyone thinks, "If I were in charge I would make all the right decisions and would bring about a Utopia." In fact I would argue the opposite, that because Ainz has such power as to disregard the opinions of everyone outside Nazarick he can have pure black and white goals as grey realpolitik is the domain of politicians working within bounds of national power.
@@theshuman100 While one of the few things that gives Ainz genuine worry is a betrayal by the floor guardians either due to them discovering he's just a regular salaryman or some other reason they do seem absolutely devoted. And notice I said outside Nazarick, not everyone. Ainz must still manage the NPCs but all other denizens of the New World are measured in the benefit or danger they represent to Nazarick.
@@michaelthayer5351you know I think it's finally time the series gives us a new player on the world. Like I mean unlike NPC where they are limited by their levels and race Players can go beyond and reach a max level of 100 and can use various skills and spells while the average NPC in the show can barely even reach 4th tier spells. The only characters close to being max level players are the Godkins but even they aren't as strong as the original Players
Zanac didn't have his brother's strength, his sister's intellect or his father's connections. However, he had something else that they didn't. He had balls, and he had integrity. He had what it takes to be a great king. RIP.
Technically he didn't shine in one like the 3 but had aspect of all 3. He had strength because he would fight but not as good as his brother, he was smart and could plan but not as good as his sister, he had connections with Reaven but so did his father. Zanac was a jack of trades but master of none
@@xtrlsidma That's one way of looking at it. I'd say Zanac had strength of character whereas his brother & sister were physically/intellectually strong but were both morally weak. In any case, yeah I agree with you.
Yet basically all his family members were screwing their nation up, and he’s the only actively trying to fix it: no need to mention his sister for obvious reasons, his brother was a big d0uche that actively wasted a portion of army before a big battle (though it wouldn’t have mattered ofc, but they didn’t know that), and his father was too weak to make the right call to sacrifice the stupid noble guy and capitulate like his neighbor (it probably wouldn’t work anyway, but it surely beats shielding that dumbass paul at the risk of his own nation)
Zanac is a great example of good character writing. When he first showed up I couldn’t stand him but in the end he became one of my favorite characters outside of Nazarick
That's true. When I first saw him in the anime, I immediately judged him to be an insignificant, vile, lawless pig. I was to quick to judge. He was a HERO.
I think it was designed that way. His first impression was to be a snobbish, arrogant brat framed around political manipulation. It’s only later that you see he’s the only member of his family with a heart, spine and brain. His father had spine and heart, but no brain. He was inactive and allowed his kingdom to lapse. His brother had none. He was a blustering idiotic thug. His sister had a brain, maybe a spine but no heart. She was clever but had no virtue or resolve beyond her desires. But Zanac? Zanac wished for prosperity for his domain, not for glory, hedonism or respect but for the sake of all. He had the heart to care, the spine to take action and the mind to go about it. In his final days he showed all three again. His heart touched the Overlord for a moment, his spine faced his fate with dignity, and his mind tried all to prevent the suffering of his people. It just wasn’t enough in the face of Phillip’s stupidity and the cruelty of Nazarick.
It's not outright mentioned but after zanac is killed by the nobles he laments how he had gotten bored of the entire ordeal with the kingdom. Zanac was one of the few humans that ainz had become invested in to some degree, and the fact that during their encounter he was wearing the armor of gazef felt like a symbolic gensture from the author that like gazef, zanac was a man that ainz was interested in and had some level of respect for.
i love how in the novel it’s revealed why Ainz was so angry at his murders. he was so impressed with him at the meeting afterwards he was considering changing his mind. before he could fully change his mind about accepting the surrender they brought his head and he just gave up with such a corrupt Kingdom
that's what happens when you have a country filled with corruption and incompetence. zanac could be a great king, but the nobles would never allow that, because being a good king means reducing these nobles' previleges. and then you see incompetence. 1 incompetent noble caused the destruction of the whole kingdom
That's why what Souma Kazuya did in Realistic hero did was the right move, no matter how bloody that was. The current world also needs some to display that method, some corrupted politicians just needs to be erased to make a country a better place for the rest of citizens.
@@WaifuMaster17 I afraid, that however overlord suppose to be deconstruction of isekai genre, saga itself falling on the clasic clichés of japanese way of writing.
One incompetent noble didn't cause the destruction of the whole kingdom, an all-powerful being did. Had the writing been better, the noble wouldn't have done that in the first place and the all-powerful being would have to resort to doing what all all-powerful beings that have human flaws do, just because they can. Or is Ains a flawless Gary Sue?
@@koloraider It's been stated multiple times, but Nazarick literally had no intention to Genocide the Kingdom. They were aiming for a more peaceful takeover similar to the strategy they used in the Roble Holy Kingdom. Philip has been established as a wildcard ever since his introduction in the novel, and his actions were the domino effect that ultimately shifted Nazarick's plans. If Philip wasn't as incomprehensibly stupid, then the Kingdom would have definitely prospered under the Sorcerer's Kingdom's rule.
Zanac and Raeven working together would've been capable of saving the Kingdom. Sadly, most of the domains in Overlord could've thrived if their leaders had one extra thing. -Calca needed to be more ruthless and cunning. -Zanac only needed a chance.
Zanac had an unknown chance called Renner..., unfortunately when he made a move on her it was too little too late for what Sorcerer Kingdom already had offered her... And Calca lacked durability... xD , sorry... xP
Are you joking? Even if they had the help of Renner they could do nothing against Nazarick. Remember that Ainz has Albedo and Demiurge on his side. If they go 100% they will wipe out the entire world.
@@ranieromaximino668 90% of the whole plans was Renner's and the original plan was to make the kingdom into a vassal state..., just do the math..., it was only in Renner's mood which kind of plan was going to follow..., but yes..., at the end nobody expected Phillip's plan into the scene..., that's an extremely hard and I think almost impossible obstacle to sort...
@@Xzeros if i understood correctly, in the original plan they want to do things slowly and behind the scenes, without detroying everything. The new plan is just destroy, destroy, destroy or i am wrong?
Saying they had a chance is quite the joke. Almost like saying cows stand a chance against a fright train, so just keep standing in the way and that train will be defeated somehow.
Ainz: Shame on your houses for such barbarity. Shame Nobles: But...you're enemies. Ainz: HE WAS A KING RE-ESTIZE!...A King...To die in this sordid way, quartered like some low thief...shame
Yeah, cowabunga. Murdering about 9 millions childrens, women and men, and like maybe 90k of the actual Nobles responsible in the first place. Einz is a monster.
Ainz: “Bro you actually drank that?” Zanac: “Yeah it would of been rude not to.” Ainz: “Dude if I knew you were gonna do that I would of have gave you something better.”
I don't think there's every been a scarier moment in the show than when Ainz found out that Zanac had been betrayed and murdered. Normally he's calm, collected and calculated. But in that moment, the hatred and anger he feels towards Zanac's betrayers is personal. He well and truly respects Zanac as a ruler.
There’s a good scene the anime missed as well. Zanac waited for Ainz to get on his horse first then got on his horse because Zanac is a prince while Ainz is a king. Ainz was shocked by this but it wasn’t animated
You know, after this meeting Ainz was seriously considering changing his mind about the whole annihilation plan. He was trying to think of a way to change course without the Guardians thinking he is weak, because his greatest fear is that the incredibly powerful, incredibly dangerous, incredibly evil creatures that surround him will realize that he is out of his depth, lose faith in him, and abandon him, leaving him alone in the New World. But then the idiot nobles went and did what they did, and all that mercy went out the window. He already knew that Re-Estize was incredibly corrupt thanks to the reports from Shalltear, Sebas, Solution and others, but after the actions of the nobles he decided that it was irredeemable.
I cant believe people are actually regurgitating this lie. Refer to ainz's talk with pestonya and nigredo, "this is all for the good of nazarick, isnt it?" Ainz is willing to do anything for nazarick, especially if the benefits of wiping out the kingdom outweigh the drawbacks.
@@-Apoptos- except it doesnt benifit his kingdom at all. infact, taxing the kingdom would have been far more benificial. his death knights can basically solo the world and they are some of the weakest creatures in nazarick. the truth is ainz is just too much of a coward to stand up to his guardians.
@@jebes909090 except it does benefit them. They gained practical war experience and knowledge of strategies that could be used against them, they finally draw out strong beings that could oppose them and know/estimate their identities, gain a massive chunk of land under them (not just land of a vassal), plunder all of re-estize's loot (not just a small peice of their money by taxing them) along with their magic items, and they gain practically everu outstanding noble from the kingdom
@@-Apoptos- its quite clear that nazarick can crush any and all kingdoms easily. its also clear that they more then likely have far more riches then all the other kingdoms combined. its like a billionaire moving into a small town and ruthlessly crushing the 'competition' of mom and pop store then people cheering.
@@jebes909090 we know the other kingdoms dont have the capabilities to stand toe to toe with nazarick, but that's not the point. "- This is to prepare for our inevitable fight against a guild that is as strong if not stronger than us." Ainz is not one to believe that he's special, thats why he prepares Nazarick for future possibilities where learning about strategies like the ones they used on the kingdom, might keep them from losing. Ainz does not curculate the riches of nazarick (like yggdrasil coins) in his kingdom. Its economy is practically the same as it was before his rule, but they now rent out undead
A young prince from a fantasy world isekaied into modern Japan, with Gazeff as his PE teacher and having a goal to be a Salaryman as the Great immortal king he once knew in his original world...
When zanac was first introduced i thought he was gonna be your stereotypical greedy prince but after all that had happened he became one of my favourites from overlord
At first, people though he was just a power hungry noble. But as the show goes on, he was truly the one who is fit to rule the kingdom and save his people.
Ainz earned some brownie points from me when he told Albedo to bury him respectfully. He truly respected Zanac as a individual and a king. And the cherry on top of was how serious he was about having the traitor nobles being tortured and to make their death slow if they ask for it.
Zanac was denied a dignified death, a chance to serve his people one last time before buckling to the immense forces of Nazarick. The tragedy isn't the decimation of a kingdom, but the fact that their true collapse came from within. When the nobles beheaded Zanac, they only confirmed what Ainz hated them for. What good is the loyalty of a "noble" when it results in selling out the man still fighting for their country? There's no point in constantly chastising an animal that can't escape its own nature. No wonder Ainz sought to make them an example, a tragic tale created by no fault of his own.
@@freeph78 It happened because ainz was too much of a coward to tell his minions they misunderstood him. And ainz was willing to let an entire nation be genocided to cover it up.
@@TheThebigice I kinda agree with you on this one. Every single guardians literally obey him to the letter...if he want to change his plans they will obey it because the guardians literally doesnt want to dissapoint him...all he need to do is put specific instruction into said plans. He just need to have more balls (metaphorically) to say it out loud
2 , 3 cincau mak lu lancau But I think at this stage even if he weren't at all afraid, he would still act as he does. Ainz at this point in time places little to no value in the vast majority of humans. He doesn't wish to eradicate or painfully subjugate them like Albedo or Demiurge do, but he's also pretty ambivalent to the suffering of basically anyone he isn't directly involved with. He basically says exactly this in his talk with Zanac, and there's no implication that he's being dishonest here. When he agrees, for example, to spare some humans in his assault on the kingdom, he does so not out of any love for them, but rather because he wants to make Nigredo, Sebas, and Pestonya happy. Again, he doesn't really hold any malice or ill will towards humans in general either, he just sees them as flies- not worth protecting but not worth exterminating either (unless they act in a way that changes their image in his eyes)
@@TheThebigice There is an alternate timeline/what if situation (written by the author) where Nazarick was transported into the New World WITHOUT Ainz and because of Ainz's absence the NPCs when't berserk and destroyed 4 whole nations/kingdoms with little to no resistance. Basically despite Ainz's inability to properly convey his thoughts he is STILL the only who can put a leash on the Guardians and restrain them from exterminating all life.
To think for all his faults and failures he had impressed Aniz to the point where Aniz was seriously considering accepting the surrender and letting the kingdom continue, now if only the other nobles realized that death was the only choice that Aniz was giving them like Zanac did
To those saying Ainz had second thoughts, behold! A WILD SOURCE MATERIAL APPEARS! “We can’t win…,” one noble whispered. Zanac agreed. “Yet, fighting is our only option. I offered him our capitulation. In vain. Once again, the only way we survive this is to fight.” “Perhaps for you, Your Highness. But if we impress him, perhaps he will allow us to escape. Our lives in exchange for yours.” That got them all chattering at once. “This is all the fault of that idiot who attacked their convoy! We’re not to blame!” “We pledge loyalty to the King of Darkness!” To Zanac’s ears, these words were indistinguishable from the prattling of young court ladies idly discussing their ideal knights over tea and crumpets. “Let me be clear on one point. Attempting to capture me will get you nowhere. I am a prince, here to fight until the bitter end. If you come at me, know that it may cost you your life.” Honestly, what a mess this all turned out to be. At the hands of his own allies. What an unseemly end. Perhaps he should consider it a stroke of luck these fools would perish here and cause no trouble for his father and sister. With that warrior by her side, these fools would never put Renner down. “If you want my head, come and take it!” Zanac drew his sword, and the war minister stood by his side. He had no confidence in his skills, but his equipment was far superior. When none of them moved, he glared. “What? You came here with blood on your swords! You chose not the way of the poison chalice! The moment you dirtied your own hands, you must have been prepared for it to end like this!” The insurrectionists exchanged glances. Clearly, they hadn’t thought that far ahead. Zanac found that disappointing. He would have preferred to die at the hands of someone aware of the consequences. In the face of the armies of darkness, fear had drawn their heartstrings too taut, and they had snapped, rushing headlong into this foolish mistake. Perhaps he had never been cut out to be king. He possessed none of his father’s magnetism, his brother’s authority, or his sister’s wits. But that was fine. He had never really wanted to be king. He had only wanted to make this country better. Indeed. The country, the citizens, and his family… He had just wanted them to be happy. One of the noblemen yelled something at the tent flap, and several burly mercenaries came rushing in. Zanac swore under his breath, then remembered how his brother swung the blade. He did his best to imitate that roar as he charged into the fray. Ainz was discussing the assault on the capital with Cocytus, Aura, and Mare when Albedo came back from checking the final formations with a frown on her face. He turned toward her, wondering what had happened. “Lord Ainz, the enemy have fallen into disarray.” “…What? Disarray? How so?” Ainz rose to his feet and stepped outside. There was definitely something going on. It looked like they were turning on one another. Eventually a group of knights came charging out of the formation. It did not look like they were trying to land the first blow of the battle. Ainz and his minions watched in silence as they approached the Nation of Darkness camp. From the ramshackle gear, these had to be a group of mercenaries, accompanied by the nobles who’d hired them. An older man in aristocratic finery emerged from the host of imposing fighters. He called out, his voice tinged with hysteria, and the wind caught his words, carrying them to Ainz’s ears. “We wish to speak with the King of Darkness! Prithee!” Zanac was not among them. Between the evident disarray and this small breakaway group, he had a hunch what had gone down. “Albedo, bring them to me.” Albedo bowed her head, but Ainz didn’t even look her way. He turned back to his tent and sat down upon his makeshift throne. The three guardians inside spoke not a word as they took their places beside him. Soon, Albedo entered with a dozen or so nobles in tow. Their guards were forced to wait outside. They flinched at the sight of Ainz, gasped at the sight of Cocytus, and were baffled by the presence of Aura and Mare. “Bask in the glory of His Majesty’s visage!” The kingdom nobles took a knee by the entrance, bowing low. “Raise your heads,” Albedo intoned before finally taking her place by Ainz. “An honor to be graced with your presence, Your Majesty,” the eldest noble said, apparently speaking for the group. From the deference the others showed, he was clearly the leader. “We are but supplicants awed by your grandeur, wishing only to serve beneath your feet. First, we bring you this gift…” One of them thrust out a bag. Albedo started to step forward, but Ainz stopped her. He rose slowly from his throne-a move he’d rehearsed many times before-and stepped toward the nobleman. He took the bag. Not a trap, then. Rather disappointed, he inspected the gift. He could smell fresh blood wafting from inside. It was all too easy to predict the contents. Ainz opened it anyway, peering inside. His eyes met Zanac’s. He looked back at some length. He had only just met the man for the first time, so it was hard to rule out the possibility of a look-alike. But from their behavior, the odds of that were not high. Ainz closed the bag, handing it to Albedo on his way back to the throne. “Give that a proper burial.” They still had more than enough bodies to create undead from. There was no need to make use of Zanac’s. “What happened to the armor he was wearing?” The gathered nobles looked confused. Likely they thought bringing the head of their commander would earn them lavish praise. “Well?” Albedo hissed. “Do you intend to not answer Lord Ainz’s question?” “R-right, the, um… I believe the prince’s body is still in his tent,” the leader managed to blurt out. “Oh. Fine. You have done well.” They looked delighted and bowed their heads again. “Fine work deserves a fine reward. What is it you wish?” “Please, spare our families, Your Majesty! We swear unswerving loyalty to you and you alone!” This cry went up from a nobleman toward the rear of the group. The urgency was apparent on his face. The leader spoke up as well. “Silence! But my wish is the same. Your Majesty, we beg for clemency.” Each of them quickly voiced their agreement. Ainz calmly raised a hand, stopping their cries. “Very well. I understand your request. You are all in agreement on this?” They nodded vigorously. “Then we shall not kill you. Albedo-have them sent to Neuronist.” “-Understood.” “Your Majesty, our families…,” one whispered. Ainz did not let that pass. “Them too?” He smirked. But they did not catch his meaning. “You’ve talked me into it. Albedo, find out where their families are located and send them all together.” “As you wish, Lord Ainz. Gentlemen, this way.” Albedo led the noblemen out of the tent. Once they were out of earshot, Ainz beckoned Aura over. “Tell Neuronist not to kill them until they beg for death.” “You got it, Lord Ainz!” Aura started to move, but he caught her hand. She looked surprised. “And keep them alive for a long while even after they do.” “Okay!” He let go, and Aura took that to mean his orders were complete. She ran out after Albedo. Ainz watched her go, giving orders to the remaining guardians. “I’ve lost all interest in this farce. Cocytus, take command with Mare as your second. I’ll allow you both to join the fight if you so wish. Do not allow a single kingdom citizen to leave here alive.” Their voices echoed in the affirmative. And an hour later-the Re-Estize Kingdom’s last army vanished from this world.
Zanac was a good man. Too bad the traitors in his own ranks didn't realize it before lopping his head off and giving it to Ainz-sama. For Ainz's part, Zanac was buried with respect and honor. Respect and honor Zanac's own side should have shown him.
And in that moment, Ainz considered sparing the people in the capitol, content with wiping their entire army off the map in the blink of an eye to prove his point. ...for about 30 minutes, before rather angrily changing his mind.
@@theunknowman12 My point was that it was never really an option to Ainz, he simply bought into the whole, "Show the world what happens if you oppose Ainz Ooal Gown." bullshit from the NPCs. While thinking about something is enough to say you considered it, if you already made up your mind it's just a farce, something to sooth your concience.
Zanac was a bloated blue blood through and through no doubt. But the fact he was willing to go into battle in season 2 and prioritized his fathers well being in season 3 spoke volumes to his humanity.
The part with water reminds me of a scene from Kingdom of Heaven where Saladin offered water to a captured king and he let his subordinate drink it. Then after killing this guy Saladin says to the king: "A king does not kill a king."
Zanac didn't make any "diplomatic blunders" there was no way through, he was a man trying to reason with a petulant child with an ant-hill. He's acting like all this is necessary, "his people" are all nigh invincible, immortal super beings that don't need to eat, drink, sleep or even breathe for some/lots of them. He could've in the end just lived in nazarick with pure adoration and bliss. This conquest is him trying to fulfill his ego by conquering the entire world, the truth is, none of this was ever necessary for their happiness.
Well, yeah....... the original plan though, was to find his guildmates somewhere in the world, I.e. Ainz's happiness. It was heavily foreshadowed during the bloody valkyrie arc that there is at least one other guild in the new world. However the author forgot about that later, but anyway yes Ainz never needed to conquer the world. That's just what the search eventually turned into. You are more or less right.
I've heard that in the manga this negotiation even went to the point of Ainz debating sparing the kingdom, but when seeing Zanacs head he decided to continue on with the massacre plan.
He was betrayed, but he went down like a true king. Massive respect to Zanac. I really didn't like him at first, but seeing him step up and meet Ainz eye to eye changed my mind almost immediately. Thats true king shit right there.
I liked Prince Zanac, he seemed quite clever and thought ahead, unlike his brother who only had glory in his head and his sister who seemed to be altruistic but was actually a crazy attentionseaker who acted rashly. His plan to seize and retain power was both wise and honorable, he never resorted to assassinations or actions against his people, etc., he allied with his sister to defeat the criminal organization his brother worked with. He allied with Markuez to keep the nobility in check. He saw his father's mistakes but he still respected him. He did not treat the nobility with any privilages just because of their class and was able to give the head of a nobleman guilty of theft to Ainz to prevent a war. But he also did not mindlessly murder his opponents like the emperor who purged the nobility who were disloyal to him, which made it difficult to carry out reforms. He was clever, just and brave. He also fought until the end. Ultimately, he die due to the desperation of rebels and the bloodthirstiness of Ainz's advisors, whom Ainz himself did not stop, but followed their advice of total war. He did not flaunt his bravery like a brother, nor his pseudo-kindness like a sister, he did not treat his nobility leniently like Ainz, nor was he a coward like the emperor. I think Zanac would be a good king, I dare say he was the best leadership candidate in the entire series. Rest in peace true King Zanac.
Zanac: exists Ainz: he's such a chad! Might wanna change my mind Zanac: beheaded by nobles Ainz: yep! I'll change my mind. *I'LL MAKE IT 10 TIMES WORSE!*
Ainz could have changed his mind, spare the civilians, keep the destruction to a minimum or make a quick death to his enemies if Zanac wasn't killed by foolish nobles.
What I find astonishing is how Ainz's emotion dampener didn't activate when he saw Zanac's head. His anger was so deeply internalized that it couldn't simply be washed away. The only thing that could make him feel better was to torture the cowardly nobles until they begged for the very thing they killed their prince to avoid, death. And then they would be healed up to perfect health and tortured some more.
Sort of. The anime does a (very) terrible job explaining it but Ainz's emotional stabilizer is like a bar that fills up to 100%. Once it fills, it neutralizes his emotion down to zero though he can re-evoke emotions. Anyway if it's at 99%, it **very** slowly decreases in intensity. Far slower than a human's emotion would, and as a result when Ainz is at 99% it's much worse than anything else. So kind of like 'internalizing' but the undead equivalent. It happened twice in the anime; Once when he found Ninya corpse and again here where he's handed Zanac's head.
Zanac might lack talent, intelligence (like Renner or Jircniv) and was weak. But he has guts to try, an important trait a ruler needs. Not many can accept ones fate and agree with an enemy’s POV. Above all, he earned Ainz respect. If you ask me, he could have been a great ruler. RESPECT! 😢
These few minutes. In these few minutes he didn't just earn the respect of millions of people, no, he earned the respect of ainz. And not just to any degree. He earned it to the degree where ainz promised him and his army his biggest mercy that he had to offer, a instant death without pain. When he sat on his throne he even thought of how to give the whole kingdom a painless death and even thought about accepting their surrender. That's the degree that zanac earned his respect. The highest or atleast nearly highest degree that could be earned from ainz. If it weren't for betraying zanac, the nobles would have had a merciful instant death without pain. Zanac would have been a good king. He did everything that he could for his country and people and was backstabbed. I wished he had gotten a better fate.
I mean, I was already interested in Zanac even before this scene with how he was handling the Kingdom despite the shitty nobles, his soft King and his brother's death. I could tell he was an alright guy even though my first impression of him initially was just another spoiled prince but this very scene right here made him one of my favourite characters in the series. He wasn't even afraid or leaned towards doing anything desperate or pathetic, he held his ground and accepted his fate gracefully. He even saw through Ainz and realized that he had such a human mindset about what he's doing. His death9 cleared any doubts that Ainz had when he wanted to annihilate the Kingdom, there's nothing interesting left with those shameless assholes.
A good king. Perhaps the only one to even scratch the surface of Ainz Ooal Gown’s empathy. I think Ainz realised in some respect that he liked someone like Zanac. Not a sycophant or mindless servant but someone who would challenge his morals and ideals with a virtue of his own to decry any possibility of hypocrisy. Calling him a monster and a fiend holds no weight when scum say it, but genuine nobility? That gives him enough reason to pause.
Zarnac was a mess but near the end he truly became a man worthy of the title of King, this is why Ainz was pissed when the cowardly nobles desecrated his body and betrayed him and his resolve to fight to the last man heroically.
"that logic is too extreme" and this sums up Ainz and his greatest flaw in a single sentence. He could do 99% of what he wants if not 100% (keeping his people safe, spreading the name, all that stuff) without the extreme measures. He's just a monster now.
Yeah I guess he really did change physically and mentally. His human soul is suppressed (The green aura whenever he feels something) That's what I think idk about the anime explanation lol
But you seem to be missing one key point with all of that, he's an undead. Throughout the entire story of overlord so far everyone has show clear as day biased for the undead, you noticed the first thing any human in the new world say when it comes to ainz is "because he's an undead...." He wouldn't be able to keep his people out of harms way if adventures actively try to hunt him down, his name would be slandered to hell, to sum it up who would want to sit down and have a conversation with an undead overlord (would you?)
I mean living in once a dystopian world makes the Human 'Momonga' player think less of when the normalcy of today. Humanitarian service is not that active in his day, thus he can only serve happiness to himself or to his guildmates and the things they made online. The 'Happiness' that he wanted to protect is by 'logical' in his eyes, that is to protect the people under him and destroy the problems in advance. He already said it, he is hypocritical. Very selfish. And he has a reason to. The True monsters are those who lived in Momonga's dystopian world.
@@assaulthetz380 exactly this The world was sent to utter shit because of corporations, schools are ridiculous expensive that you can only go to elementary, people complain about such a normal thing like masks? Bitch please try to go out to buy groceries with a full hazmat suit because the air will kill you. Humanity is completely different thing in Momonga's world. They're not us, they have a different culture. If I was in Ainz's shoes as a non-human, I'd do the same thing
In these few moments, he gained Ainz's respect and admiration, which only fueled his wrath upon learning his fate at the hands of the nobles. Zanac was not only robbed of his pride but was robbed of an honorable and merciful death by his hand.
This made me respect zanac, before I viewed him as a corrupt little brat who had 0 quality to rule a country. He knew he was doomed and still was willing to fight rather then run like a coward.
So i guess when zanac decided to drink the water from ainz, he knew that ainz wouldn't do something dishonorable as poisoning the drink He saw right through ainz's overlord persona and see that he's also like a human on heart, which makes him trust him and respected him a bit Zanac already accepted death here and just gonna fight till the last breath, sadly his troops doesn't follow his ideal, doesn't understand ainz like zanac did and did something that causes them to get a much crueler fate
Lots of people think that Zanac left such an impression on Ainz that he was reconsidering the invasion on the kingdom, but that doesn't hold up after reading the light novels. What Ainz says to Zanac is true. In his mind, backing down after coming this far would lead to Nazarick questioning his authority. Even after speaking with Zanac, Ainz was not going to change his mind. He does experience a moment of regret after their conversation. Ainz ponders that if circumstances were different, Zanac would have made a powerful ally. Perhaps if he'd been left to stew in his thoughts, he might have begun to reconsider his plan. However, then the nobles bring him Zanac's head, and all thoughts of regret fly out the window.
Yea, the only thing Ainz was going to offer is a quick death, which Zanac understood was the only mercy he was ever going to be given and requested for that. Still no excuse for being a genocidal monster trying to appease his hive of evil maniacs, but that's all the mercy he would offer.
@@johnkonig865 HUMAN women & children. Don't forget that Ainz is undead and thus, to him a regular human is like a fly or an ant to us. Would you consider taking out flies or ants to be evil?
@@Archedgar Mate, you can simp for Ainz as much as you like, but he's at the end of the day fully aware that what he does is evil, he just doesn't care.
@@johnkonig865 Obviously. -500 karma rating=very evil. It's called *OVERLORD* .... however, whining about how Ainz, an undead, kills humans.... full ree ree.
@@Archedgar His Karma doesn't affect him, his emotions are just muted by his undead state, you can look at Demiurge to see the effects that -500 karma has on a person. I'm also not whining, it's perfectly fine for characters to be evil, but some of you guys seem to genuinely think that Ainz can do no wrong, which is just annoying as all hell.
Zanac made a lot of diplomatic blunders, but his intent shines through. He wasn't searching to increase his power or maximize his gains. He was focused on saving his people and, when that was not possible, he tried to minimize their suffering. He was even willing to take up arms for it, despite being outmatched. Flawed as he was, he had the heart of a true king.
Even the author on a "what if" scenario agrees that if Zanac had lived and ruled his people his kingdom would've prospered. I hope it still can...
There weren't really any blunders to be had.
Ainz was going to wipe out the kingdom regardless. The only thing that changed is that Ainz had to put a face and a name to one of the people he was murdering.
@@dungeonguy88 nah in the novel he was conserding to not go ahead and kill everyone but then Zanac death happened wished they added that extra dialogue
@@shimazmunshi6595 considering is the keyword. and Brandon is right up to this point Ainz has bulldozed through much of the kingdom before arriving at the capital
@@shimazmunshi6595 no what he had were 2nd thoughts. He still would've went through with his original plan
For people who don't know why Ainz was shocked that Zanac drank the water. It's because if Ainz was in his position he would suspect the water would be poisoned but Zanac drank it without fear nor hesitation, which increased his respect for the King. He also respected Zanac because if Ainz was in his shoes he would not be able to put up such a brave face at all.
Edit* I'm talking about from Ainz's perspective not Zanac's. It's literally what he said in the Light Novel.
I mean he already was going to die so why should he care if the water was poisoned?
Plus i am sure ainz wouldn't because it would show him as a coward and he doesn't need to (he overpower the kingdom by a lot)
Of course he wouldn't. The real MC is mentally weak.
No he drank it when Ainz said he would kill without suffering. If his intent was to poison he'd be breaking his word on the spot. It was basically Zanac testing Ainz's word through action.
I knew Zanac will die in this War. But i was hoping Zanac will die in hands of Ainz or one of his floor guardian. The fact he get killed by his own people make me sad.
To be fair is not like Zanac could survive anyway so maybe he drinked it hoping it was poisoned
Zanac was by no means a saint, but he was realistic and heroic. He did the best he could given what he had, he was simply outmatched and surrounded by self serving nobles. He would have been a fine king, not amazing but good enough to steer the country in the right direction.
🤣 They did him dirty like Odysseus my boy from Code Geass.
That's the whole reason Gazef died in the first place he died saving king Ramposa from the nobles who stupidly where too self absorbed in their own schemes until the main army died just like gazef had warned them would happen but they just felt like putting pressure on the king and their failure there caused Philip to grow to power along with other unqualified nobles. Corruption killed the kingdom long before ainz was involved.
@@joebazooka5679 Maybe if Gazef did live till this day he would manage to save Zanac...
He actually would be better king than his father thats for sure its been stated that he would bring prosperity and better life to his people if the coup succeeded (coup did happened but since nazzarick attacked there wasnt much to do against them)
Actually he would have been amazing. The author said had Zanac become king the kingdom would have prospered
Interestingly, after his interaction with king Zanac, Ainz was seriously considering accepting the Kingdom's surrender plea and putting an end to his invasion on it. That's the scope of the impression Zanac left on Ainz from just 1 talk, which further shines light on his insistence that the king be buried honorably; that his traitorous nobles and generals be tortured severely and killed slowly; and that the Kingdom be fully destroyed. After his death, Ainz genuinely felt that there was no more decency left in the kingdom. All of the pity, guilt and regret he felt for the kingdom dissappeard when he saw Zanac's head in that bag.
sadly thats not the case. ln never mentioned it and even if ainz wanted to, he wouldnt as that he would think that would create problems with albedo and demiurge
@@alphabeta6129 All that I have said is actually all true. Even though it is not shown in the anime, it's present in the light novel. The anime and manga are known for cutting out a lot of stuff that's in the light novel, one of those being Ainz considering to end his invasion on the kingdom after his parley with Zanac. Being cut out doesn't mean it doesn't happen though. It happens, but it isn't shown to us.
@@kronkrian100 even in LN he did not consider sparing kingdom. you may have read the wiki as it was stated that way (thought the same before reading volume 14) in wiki, but in LN he never intended to spare kingdom simply because there's no merit. and well walking back on his decision might result in complications.
@Crab in A Top Hat ... can you pls tell me where in ln it was mentioned ainz would spare the kingdom after meeting with zanac.
Ainz wouldve never backed out after that convo simply because if he did so, he would lose the perfect chance to encounter one of the stronger beings in NW, about whom he would want more info.
it was not mentioned in LN anywhere. wiki editors assumed that part and added it there. only thing that changed because of zanac was Ainz would try to kill them peacefully with insta death spell to not cause them any pain, and after the betrayal, he lost interest and handed the task of slaughtering to cocytus and mare and to use any method they see fit (doesnt matter if they are frozen to death or urned alive or swallowed by the earth).
In LN, he complains about having to learn about etiquette of upper class, and that amount of things he needs to learn would never decrease.
@@alphabeta6129 If I recall, he didn't intend to 'spare the kingdom' but he was considering at least not going through with its full destruction. Perhaps allowing some of its people to survive based on his conversation with Zanac. Something along those lines. You are wrong, or are being incredibly pedantic maybe.
Ainz had the utmost respect for king Zanic. When he discovered what had become of him; he gave the traitors a most fitting reward. Ainz would have the poor king buried with respect.
Alexander the Great went see a defeated king. He found him assassinated. He found the King's written surrender and requested mercy for his kingdom. Alexander 's heart was touched by the request. He then said, "May the killers of the king step forward. I shall reward them and have them exalted before my troops." The traitors appeared expecting a reward. Then they had both were impaled on stakes to show all his troops; that a king reserves the right to kill a king . Alexander respectfully returned the King's body and buried it with utmost respect. In the 1956 movie: Alexander the Great .
idk why ainz didn't just revive zanac,he should be able to no matter how defiled the corpse is
for humans that can use revive they need bodies in good shape
makes little sense why he was so mad despite his passive skill and he punished those nobles
At the end of the day Ainz only respected him the same way a veteran player would show respect to a noob with honor. Reviving him after his kingdom got destroyed would have been more of an insult.
@@greenshinigami5566 it's better that way bruh
@@greenshinigami5566 it's better he doesn't see what happened to his subject that he wanted to protect so much
The guy better off dead than seeing a bunch of pigs licking ainz butt
Zanac is just like Gazef Stronoff, both are great person in wrong kingdom..
He didn't have a charismatic figure, a loyal followers like his father, or intelligence like his sister, but because he knew his boundaries, always cared for his kingdom, and being realistic as possible that would make him a magnificent king..
Fun fact: the author himself stated in vol.14 about "IF" situation, if nazarick never arrived in NW and re-estize's political reforms are going Zanac+Renner's way, he will absolutely bring prosperity to the kingdom, he is also one of a few human that truly gain a highest respect from Ainz himself.
One of tragic characters in this series...
so whether ainz come or not to NW, climb fate won't ever change huh?
The fact he question himself if he was worth the crown of King made him an actual great King in my eyes.
@@null8036 Climb's life is already as good as its gonna get. Without Renner, he'd have either died in a gutter, or been picked up by slavers.
@@SnowyWolborg that's what i mean, he is literally the only who got better end result than entire people of re-estize kingdom in both scenario
@@null8036 though he'd still be a sex slave it won't be a forever sex slave.
Zanac was so right, someone's as powerful as Ainz having such black and white plans is absurd, and it showed how Ainz is a human in the inside, and Zanac saw right through it.
king zanac was the one person who saw through ains overlord character and nonexistent 5D chess moves.
But that's how everyone thinks, "If I were in charge I would make all the right decisions and would bring about a Utopia."
In fact I would argue the opposite, that because Ainz has such power as to disregard the opinions of everyone outside Nazarick he can have pure black and white goals as grey realpolitik is the domain of politicians working within bounds of national power.
@@michaelthayer5351 i dunno. ainz does have to workaround needing to satisfy residents on iether end of the karma scale.
@@theshuman100 While one of the few things that gives Ainz genuine worry is a betrayal by the floor guardians either due to them discovering he's just a regular salaryman or some other reason they do seem absolutely devoted. And notice I said outside Nazarick, not everyone. Ainz must still manage the NPCs but all other denizens of the New World are measured in the benefit or danger they represent to Nazarick.
@@michaelthayer5351you know I think it's finally time the series gives us a new player on the world. Like I mean unlike NPC where they are limited by their levels and race Players can go beyond and reach a max level of 100 and can use various skills and spells while the average NPC in the show can barely even reach 4th tier spells. The only characters close to being max level players are the Godkins but even they aren't as strong as the original Players
Zanac: “the drink was delicious, your majesty”
Ainz: “bro, I got that water from the tap”
Clean, good tasting water was hardly commonplace in such an era
It was also a high stress situation, so a cold, clean tasting glass of water was probably just what he needed.
Tbf tap water was probably comparable to the water of the gods for the people living in this era.
@@ReiseLukas Ye,i wonder where Nazarick get clean water
@@skell6134 but it from Aqua's Axis Cult
Zanac didn't have his brother's strength, his sister's intellect or his father's connections. However, he had something else that they didn't. He had balls, and he had integrity. He had what it takes to be a great king. RIP.
Technically he didn't shine in one like the 3 but had aspect of all 3. He had strength because he would fight but not as good as his brother, he was smart and could plan but not as good as his sister, he had connections with Reaven but so did his father. Zanac was a jack of trades but master of none
@@xtrlsidma That's one way of looking at it. I'd say Zanac had strength of character whereas his brother & sister were physically/intellectually strong but were both morally weak. In any case, yeah I agree with you.
If its not because of his corrupt members he couldve died in a peaceful way
@@seizaa_8870i am puke see zanac head in that bag
Holy shit man, people can be cruel
Yet basically all his family members were screwing their nation up, and he’s the only actively trying to fix it: no need to mention his sister for obvious reasons, his brother was a big d0uche that actively wasted a portion of army before a big battle (though it wouldn’t have mattered ofc, but they didn’t know that), and his father was too weak to make the right call to sacrifice the stupid noble guy and capitulate like his neighbor (it probably wouldn’t work anyway, but it surely beats shielding that dumbass paul at the risk of his own nation)
Zanac is a great example of good character writing. When he first showed up I couldn’t stand him but in the end he became one of my favorite characters outside of Nazarick
That's true. When I first saw him in the anime, I immediately judged him to be an insignificant, vile, lawless pig. I was to quick to judge. He was a HERO.
@@Cinnamo_eya Absolutely,but i started to respect him since Season 3 . ,.
I respected as soon he revealed himself to be the most noble out of his siblings tbh
I think it was designed that way. His first impression was to be a snobbish, arrogant brat framed around political manipulation.
It’s only later that you see he’s the only member of his family with a heart, spine and brain.
His father had spine and heart, but no brain. He was inactive and allowed his kingdom to lapse.
His brother had none. He was a blustering idiotic thug.
His sister had a brain, maybe a spine but no heart. She was clever but had no virtue or resolve beyond her desires.
But Zanac? Zanac wished for prosperity for his domain, not for glory, hedonism or respect but for the sake of all. He had the heart to care, the spine to take action and the mind to go about it.
In his final days he showed all three again. His heart touched the Overlord for a moment, his spine faced his fate with dignity, and his mind tried all to prevent the suffering of his people.
It just wasn’t enough in the face of Phillip’s stupidity and the cruelty of Nazarick.
f**K Nazarick - at this point i hope Ainz ultimatevly fails and another player brings him down
It's not outright mentioned but after zanac is killed by the nobles he laments how he had gotten bored of the entire ordeal with the kingdom. Zanac was one of the few humans that ainz had become invested in to some degree, and the fact that during their encounter he was wearing the armor of gazef felt like a symbolic gensture from the author that like gazef, zanac was a man that ainz was interested in and had some level of respect for.
Is there any reason why ainz not resurrect and mind control gazef and zanac for his own benefit?
Gazef explicitly didn't want to be ressurected, so Ainz decided to honor his wish. Ainz still absolutely values keeping his word.
@@TunaStrata It would be a great disrespect to their memories and life, which Ainz despises.
i love how in the novel it’s revealed why Ainz was so angry at his murders. he was so impressed with him at the meeting afterwards he was considering changing his mind. before he could fully change his mind about accepting the surrender they brought his head and he just gave up with such a corrupt Kingdom
Those nobles never knew how close they were to ending the war without further bloodshed HA
that's what happens when you have a country filled with corruption and incompetence.
zanac could be a great king, but the nobles would never allow that, because being a good king means reducing these nobles' previleges.
and then you see incompetence. 1 incompetent noble caused the destruction of the whole kingdom
That's why what Souma Kazuya did in Realistic hero did was the right move, no matter how bloody that was. The current world also needs some to display that method, some corrupted politicians just needs to be erased to make a country a better place for the rest of citizens.
@@kodokutamashi1569 Let's not forget about how corrupt nobles are so cliche and overused.
@@WaifuMaster17 I afraid, that however overlord suppose to be deconstruction of isekai genre, saga itself falling on the clasic clichés of japanese way of writing.
One incompetent noble didn't cause the destruction of the whole kingdom, an all-powerful being did. Had the writing been better, the noble wouldn't have done that in the first place and the all-powerful being would have to resort to doing what all all-powerful beings that have human flaws do, just because they can. Or is Ains a flawless Gary Sue?
@@koloraider It's been stated multiple times, but Nazarick literally had no intention to Genocide the Kingdom. They were aiming for a more peaceful takeover similar to the strategy they used in the Roble Holy Kingdom. Philip has been established as a wildcard ever since his introduction in the novel, and his actions were the domino effect that ultimately shifted Nazarick's plans. If Philip wasn't as incomprehensibly stupid, then the Kingdom would have definitely prospered under the Sorcerer's Kingdom's rule.
Zanac and Raeven working together would've been capable of saving the Kingdom.
Sadly, most of the domains in Overlord could've thrived if their leaders had one extra thing.
-Calca needed to be more ruthless and cunning.
-Zanac only needed a chance.
Zanac had an unknown chance called Renner..., unfortunately when he made a move on her it was too little too late for what Sorcerer Kingdom already had offered her...
And Calca lacked durability... xD , sorry... xP
Are you joking? Even if they had the help of Renner they could do nothing against Nazarick. Remember that Ainz has Albedo and Demiurge on his side. If they go 100% they will wipe out the entire world.
@@ranieromaximino668 90% of the whole plans was Renner's and the original plan was to make the kingdom into a vassal state..., just do the math..., it was only in Renner's mood which kind of plan was going to follow..., but yes..., at the end nobody expected Phillip's plan into the scene..., that's an extremely hard and I think almost impossible obstacle to sort...
@@Xzeros if i understood correctly, in the original plan they want to do things slowly and behind the scenes, without detroying everything. The new plan is just destroy, destroy, destroy or i am wrong?
Saying they had a chance is quite the joke. Almost like saying cows stand a chance against a fright train, so just keep standing in the way and that train will be defeated somehow.
First time in my life that i respected a fat noble character
Yeah,my highest respect for him
RIP true king
Ainz: Shame on your houses for such barbarity. Shame
Nobles: But...you're enemies.
Ainz: HE WAS A KING RE-ESTIZE!...A King...To die in this sordid way, quartered like some low thief...shame
Rome reference
Don't compare Ainz to Caesar. Caesar was a great man. Ainz is a boy playing dress up.
@@evanthompson7494 True...but this still works
@Evan Thompson
Caesar holder of knives?
HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROME!
1:17 Zanac's one last drink before his last stand
At least it was a good drink.
1:12 Also Ainz when he learns the nobles betrayed Zanac in the back: "COWABUNGA IT IS."
Yeah, cowabunga. Murdering about 9 millions childrens, women and men, and like maybe 90k of the actual Nobles responsible in the first place. Einz is a monster.
Ainz: “Bro you actually drank that?”
Zanac: “Yeah it would of been rude not to.”
Ainz: “Dude if I knew you were gonna do that I would of have gave you something better.”
Zoomer brain
Let's be real, that's probably the most delicious water one could find in the New World that any other beverage would pale in comparison.
I don't think there's every been a scarier moment in the show than when Ainz found out that Zanac had been betrayed and murdered. Normally he's calm, collected and calculated. But in that moment, the hatred and anger he feels towards Zanac's betrayers is personal. He well and truly respects Zanac as a ruler.
Well the thing that ainz hates the most is betrayal
The foreshadowing about his death and the punishment his assassins about to recieve is quite strong with this one
It's a homage to Alexander the great deeds
There’s a good scene the anime missed as well. Zanac waited for Ainz to get on his horse first then got on his horse because Zanac is a prince while Ainz is a king. Ainz was shocked by this but it wasn’t animated
Zanac was the real hero
Was*
@@dollarmcmoney9302
Nobles: "Wasn't."
Ainz: "I said *WAS."*
F for Zanac
Seriously this ep is really sad for me
@@dollarmcmoney9302 IS 😢
Gotta respect Ainz. No matter the situation or how pissed he is, he consistently is respectful and addresses people by name and introduces himself.
You know, after this meeting Ainz was seriously considering changing his mind about the whole annihilation plan. He was trying to think of a way to change course without the Guardians thinking he is weak, because his greatest fear is that the incredibly powerful, incredibly dangerous, incredibly evil creatures that surround him will realize that he is out of his depth, lose faith in him, and abandon him, leaving him alone in the New World.
But then the idiot nobles went and did what they did, and all that mercy went out the window. He already knew that Re-Estize was incredibly corrupt thanks to the reports from Shalltear, Sebas, Solution and others, but after the actions of the nobles he decided that it was irredeemable.
I cant believe people are actually regurgitating this lie.
Refer to ainz's talk with pestonya and nigredo, "this is all for the good of nazarick, isnt it?" Ainz is willing to do anything for nazarick, especially if the benefits of wiping out the kingdom outweigh the drawbacks.
@@-Apoptos- except it doesnt benifit his kingdom at all. infact, taxing the kingdom would have been far more benificial. his death knights can basically solo the world and they are some of the weakest creatures in nazarick. the truth is ainz is just too much of a coward to stand up to his guardians.
@@jebes909090 except it does benefit them. They gained practical war experience and knowledge of strategies that could be used against them, they finally draw out strong beings that could oppose them and know/estimate their identities, gain a massive chunk of land under them (not just land of a vassal), plunder all of re-estize's loot (not just a small peice of their money by taxing them) along with their magic items, and they gain practically everu outstanding noble from the kingdom
@@-Apoptos- its quite clear that nazarick can crush any and all kingdoms easily. its also clear that they more then likely have far more riches then all the other kingdoms combined. its like a billionaire moving into a small town and ruthlessly crushing the 'competition' of mom and pop store then people cheering.
@@jebes909090 we know the other kingdoms dont have the capabilities to stand toe to toe with nazarick, but that's not the point. "- This is to prepare for our inevitable fight against a guild that is as strong if not stronger than us." Ainz is not one to believe that he's special, thats why he prepares Nazarick for future possibilities where learning about strategies like the ones they used on the kingdom, might keep them from losing.
Ainz does not curculate the riches of nazarick (like yggdrasil coins) in his kingdom. Its economy is practically the same as it was before his rule, but they now rent out undead
His death felt really anti-climactic. Hopefully he got isekai'd in modern day Japan.
A young prince from a fantasy world isekaied into modern Japan, with Gazeff as his PE teacher and having a goal to be a Salaryman as the Great immortal king he once knew in his original world...
@@Xzeros it would be awesome if he meet with gazef
This anime spinoff would be slice of life type
Stupid
When zanac was first introduced i thought he was gonna be your stereotypical greedy prince but after all that had happened he became one of my favourites from overlord
As ains commented after meeting him in person, " so this is what true royalty is like".
He is not just a prince he is a true king remember his name for all eternity your highness King Zanac Valleon Igana Ryle Vaiself
I thought he would be another fat bastard but turns out he was one of the best king in all of anime that i have seen.
When the nobles brought their "gift" to Ainz in exchange for sparing them and their family, we all knew they were fucked beyond reasoning lol
At first, people though he was just a power hungry noble. But as the show goes on, he was truly the one who is fit to rule the kingdom and save his people.
絶対的強者に「狭量」等と言えるのは、先にも後にもザナックくらいしかいないだろう
Ainz earned some brownie points from me when he told Albedo to bury him respectfully. He truly respected Zanac as a individual and a king. And the cherry on top of was how serious he was about having the traitor nobles being tortured and to make their death slow if they ask for it.
Zanac was denied a dignified death, a chance to serve his people one last time before buckling to the immense forces of Nazarick. The tragedy isn't the decimation of a kingdom, but the fact that their true collapse came from within. When the nobles beheaded Zanac, they only confirmed what Ainz hated them for. What good is the loyalty of a "noble" when it results in selling out the man still fighting for their country? There's no point in constantly chastising an animal that can't escape its own nature. No wonder Ainz sought to make them an example, a tragic tale created by no fault of his own.
@@freeph78 It happened because ainz was too much of a coward to tell his minions they misunderstood him. And ainz was willing to let an entire nation be genocided to cover it up.
Best comment I've read so far
@@TheThebigice I kinda agree with you on this one. Every single guardians literally obey him to the letter...if he want to change his plans they will obey it because the guardians literally doesnt want to dissapoint him...all he need to do is put specific instruction into said plans. He just need to have more balls (metaphorically) to say it out loud
2 , 3 cincau mak lu lancau
But I think at this stage even if he weren't at all afraid, he would still act as he does. Ainz at this point in time places little to no value in the vast majority of humans. He doesn't wish to eradicate or painfully subjugate them like Albedo or Demiurge do, but he's also pretty ambivalent to the suffering of basically anyone he isn't directly involved with. He basically says exactly this in his talk with Zanac, and there's no implication that he's being dishonest here.
When he agrees, for example, to spare some humans in his assault on the kingdom, he does so not out of any love for them, but rather because he wants to make Nigredo, Sebas, and Pestonya happy. Again, he doesn't really hold any malice or ill will towards humans in general either, he just sees them as flies- not worth protecting but not worth exterminating either (unless they act in a way that changes their image in his eyes)
@@TheThebigice There is an alternate timeline/what if situation (written by the author) where Nazarick was transported into the New World WITHOUT Ainz and because of Ainz's absence the NPCs when't berserk and destroyed 4 whole nations/kingdoms with little to no resistance. Basically despite Ainz's inability to properly convey his thoughts he is STILL the only who can put a leash on the Guardians and restrain them from exterminating all life.
To think for all his faults and failures he had impressed Aniz to the point where Aniz was seriously considering accepting the surrender and letting the kingdom continue, now if only the other nobles realized that death was the only choice that Aniz was giving them like Zanac did
Gotta respect a man who faces his death with dignity.
勝てるはずのない相手に対して、負けるつもりはないって言って毒入ってるかもしれない
水を飲み干すのはカッコいいな。
アインズは正々堂々と向かうやつには優しいのよな。
一瞬だけど(それ飲むの！？)ってアクション見えて笑った
アインズ様だけでなく読者、視聴者からこれだけで退場を惜しまれたキャラはガゼフ以外ではこの王子だと思う。
「理解不能な理由（人間だから殺す）とかで虐殺されるのではない」と分かり、「戦う相手は、自分とそんなに違わないんだな」って感じたからんだろうね。これで「敵」ではなく「戦わないといけなくなった相手」として清々しく腹を括れたんだと思う。なのにその結末がアレっていうね・・・・。
アインズ側も似たり寄ったりの感覚だったところにあれだからそらぶちぎれるよなぁ
お互い戦わなければならない相手だったけどそこには確かに一種の絆があったのが好き
His empire didn't deserve him. And so he must now sleep peacefully.
kingdom not empire
To those saying Ainz had second thoughts, behold! A WILD SOURCE MATERIAL APPEARS!
“We can’t win…,” one noble whispered.
Zanac agreed. “Yet, fighting is our only option. I offered him our capitulation. In vain. Once again, the only way we survive this is to fight.”
“Perhaps for you, Your Highness. But if we impress him, perhaps he will allow us to escape. Our lives in exchange for yours.”
That got them all chattering at once.
“This is all the fault of that idiot who attacked their convoy! We’re not to blame!”
“We pledge loyalty to the King of Darkness!”
To Zanac’s ears, these words were indistinguishable from the prattling of young court ladies idly discussing their ideal knights over tea and crumpets.
“Let me be clear on one point. Attempting to capture me will get you nowhere. I am a prince, here to fight until the bitter end. If you come at me, know that it may cost you your life.”
Honestly, what a mess this all turned out to be.
At the hands of his own allies. What an unseemly end.
Perhaps he should consider it a stroke of luck these fools would perish here and cause no trouble for his father and sister.
With that warrior by her side, these fools would never put Renner down. “If you want my head, come and take it!”
Zanac drew his sword, and the war minister stood by his side.
He had no confidence in his skills, but his equipment was far superior. When none of them moved, he glared.
“What? You came here with blood on your swords! You chose not the way of the poison chalice! The moment you dirtied your own hands, you must have been prepared for it to end like this!”
The insurrectionists exchanged glances.
Clearly, they hadn’t thought that far ahead. Zanac found that disappointing. He would have preferred to die at the hands of someone aware of the consequences.
In the face of the armies of darkness, fear had drawn their heartstrings too taut, and they had snapped, rushing headlong into this foolish mistake.
Perhaps he had never been cut out to be king. He possessed none of his father’s magnetism, his brother’s authority, or his sister’s wits. But that was fine. He had never really wanted to be king. He had only wanted to make this country better.
Indeed.
The country, the citizens, and his family… He had just wanted them to be happy.
One of the noblemen yelled something at the tent flap, and several burly mercenaries came rushing in.
Zanac swore under his breath, then remembered how his brother swung the blade. He did his best to imitate that roar as he charged into the fray.
Ainz was discussing the assault on the capital with Cocytus, Aura, and Mare when Albedo came back from checking the final formations with a frown on her face. He turned toward her, wondering what had happened.
“Lord Ainz, the enemy have fallen into disarray.” “…What? Disarray? How so?”
Ainz rose to his feet and stepped outside. There was definitely something going on. It looked like they were turning on one another.
Eventually a group of knights came charging out of the formation. It did not look like they were trying to land the first blow of the battle.
Ainz and his minions watched in silence as they approached the Nation of Darkness camp. From the ramshackle gear, these had to be a group of mercenaries, accompanied by the nobles who’d hired them.
An older man in aristocratic finery emerged from the host of imposing fighters. He called out, his voice tinged with hysteria, and the wind caught his words, carrying them to Ainz’s ears.
“We wish to speak with the King of Darkness! Prithee!”
Zanac was not among them. Between the evident disarray and this small breakaway group, he had a hunch what had gone down.
“Albedo, bring them to me.”
Albedo bowed her head, but Ainz didn’t even look her way. He turned back to his tent and sat down upon his makeshift throne. The three guardians inside spoke not a word as they took their places beside him.
Soon, Albedo entered with a dozen or so nobles in tow. Their guards were forced to wait outside.
They flinched at the sight of Ainz, gasped at the sight of Cocytus, and were baffled by the presence of Aura and Mare.
“Bask in the glory of His Majesty’s visage!”
The kingdom nobles took a knee by the entrance, bowing low.
“Raise your heads,” Albedo intoned before finally taking her place by Ainz. “An honor to be graced with your presence, Your Majesty,” the eldest noble
said, apparently speaking for the group. From the deference the others showed, he was clearly the leader. “We are but supplicants awed by your grandeur, wishing only to serve beneath your feet. First, we bring you this gift…”
One of them thrust out a bag. Albedo started to step forward, but Ainz stopped her. He rose slowly from his throne-a move he’d rehearsed many times before-and stepped toward the nobleman.
He took the bag.
Not a trap, then.
Rather disappointed, he inspected the gift.
He could smell fresh blood wafting from inside. It was all too easy to predict the contents.
Ainz opened it anyway, peering inside. His eyes met Zanac’s.
He looked back at some length. He had only just met the man for the first time, so it was hard to rule out the possibility of a look-alike. But from their behavior, the odds of that were not high.
Ainz closed the bag, handing it to Albedo on his way back to the throne. “Give that a proper burial.”
They still had more than enough bodies to create undead from. There was no need to make use of Zanac’s.
“What happened to the armor he was wearing?”
The gathered nobles looked confused. Likely they thought bringing the head of their commander would earn them lavish praise.
“Well?” Albedo hissed. “Do you intend to not answer Lord Ainz’s question?” “R-right, the, um… I believe the prince’s body is still in his tent,” the leader
managed to blurt out.
“Oh. Fine. You have done well.”
They looked delighted and bowed their heads again. “Fine work deserves a fine reward. What is it you wish?”
“Please, spare our families, Your Majesty! We swear unswerving loyalty to you and you alone!”
This cry went up from a nobleman toward the rear of the group. The urgency was apparent on his face. The leader spoke up as well.
“Silence! But my wish is the same. Your Majesty, we beg for clemency.” Each of them quickly voiced their agreement. Ainz calmly raised a hand,
stopping their cries.
“Very well. I understand your request. You are all in agreement on this?” They nodded vigorously.
“Then we shall not kill you. Albedo-have them sent to Neuronist.” “-Understood.”
“Your Majesty, our families…,” one whispered. Ainz did not let that pass. “Them too?” He smirked. But they did not catch his meaning. “You’ve talked
me into it. Albedo, find out where their families are located and send them all
together.”
“As you wish, Lord Ainz. Gentlemen, this way.”
Albedo led the noblemen out of the tent. Once they were out of earshot, Ainz beckoned Aura over.
“Tell Neuronist not to kill them until they beg for death.” “You got it, Lord Ainz!”
Aura started to move, but he caught her hand. She looked surprised. “And keep them alive for a long while even after they do.” “Okay!”
He let go, and Aura took that to mean his orders were complete. She ran out after Albedo.
Ainz watched her go, giving orders to the remaining guardians.
“I’ve lost all interest in this farce. Cocytus, take command with Mare as your second. I’ll allow you both to join the fight if you so wish. Do not allow a single kingdom citizen to leave here alive.”
Their voices echoed in the affirmative.
And an hour later-the Re-Estize Kingdom’s last army vanished from this world.
Respect for posting the source. The original web novel is fantastic.
こういう人を友人に持ちたかったんだろうな。。。
こんなに散り際のカッコいい王を最近見たことがなかったな～。
見る前と見た後でここまで印象が変わる王子は初めて
何度見返しても、コイツは生きていて欲しかったと思う。
This is a very calm conversation given the subject matter
How to make an unlikable character become a gigachad in one episode.
he's such a rare existence from your average isekai nobles trope which are normally greedy,naive and stupid
Zanac was a good man. Too bad the traitors in his own ranks didn't realize it before lopping his head off and giving it to Ainz-sama. For Ainz's part, Zanac was buried with respect and honor. Respect and honor Zanac's own side should have shown him.
And in that moment, Ainz considered sparing the people in the capitol, content with wiping their entire army off the map in the blink of an eye to prove his point.
...for about 30 minutes, before rather angrily changing his mind.
He didn't seriously consider anything of the sort, he only promised to make their deaths as painless as he could.
@@johnkonig865 late reply but he did considered that. Its in the light novel and the anime cuts it
@@theunknowman12 My point was that it was never really an option to Ainz, he simply bought into the whole, "Show the world what happens if you oppose Ainz Ooal Gown." bullshit from the NPCs. While thinking about something is enough to say you considered it, if you already made up your mind it's just a farce, something to sooth your concience.
Zanac was a bloated blue blood through and through no doubt. But the fact he was willing to go into battle in season 2 and prioritized his fathers well being in season 3 spoke volumes to his humanity.
I remember watching this episode and thinking how well written zanac's character is.
The part with water reminds me of a scene from Kingdom of Heaven where Saladin offered water to a captured king and he let his subordinate drink it.
Then after killing this guy Saladin says to the king: "A king does not kill a king."
Zanac didn't make any "diplomatic blunders" there was no way through, he was a man trying to reason with a petulant child with an ant-hill.
He's acting like all this is necessary, "his people" are all nigh invincible, immortal super beings that don't need to eat, drink, sleep or even breathe for some/lots of them.
He could've in the end just lived in nazarick with pure adoration and bliss.
This conquest is him trying to fulfill his ego by conquering the entire world, the truth is, none of this was ever necessary for their happiness.
Well, yeah....... the original plan though, was to find his guildmates somewhere in the world, I.e. Ainz's happiness. It was heavily foreshadowed during the bloody valkyrie arc that there is at least one other guild in the new world. However the author forgot about that later, but anyway yes Ainz never needed to conquer the world. That's just what the search eventually turned into. You are more or less right.
I've heard that in the manga this negotiation even went to the point of Ainz debating sparing the kingdom, but when seeing Zanacs head he decided to continue on with the massacre plan.
A moment of silence for Chad Zanac....... he really deserved more of the spotlight 😔
This guy was coded as a villain, but he ended up being quite likeable.
He was betrayed, but he went down like a true king. Massive respect to Zanac. I really didn't like him at first, but seeing him step up and meet Ainz eye to eye changed my mind almost immediately. Thats true king shit right there.
I liked Prince Zanac, he seemed quite clever and thought ahead, unlike his brother who only had glory in his head and his sister who seemed to be altruistic but was actually a crazy attentionseaker who acted rashly. His plan to seize and retain power was both wise and honorable, he never resorted to assassinations or actions against his people, etc., he allied with his sister to defeat the criminal organization his brother worked with. He allied with Markuez to keep the nobility in check. He saw his father's mistakes but he still respected him. He did not treat the nobility with any privilages just because of their class and was able to give the head of a nobleman guilty of theft to Ainz to prevent a war. But he also did not mindlessly murder his opponents like the emperor who purged the nobility who were disloyal to him, which made it difficult to carry out reforms. He was clever, just and brave. He also fought until the end.
Ultimately, he die due to the desperation of rebels and the bloodthirstiness of Ainz's advisors, whom Ainz himself did not stop, but followed their advice of total war.
He did not flaunt his bravery like a brother, nor his pseudo-kindness like a sister, he did not treat his nobility leniently like Ainz, nor was he a coward like the emperor.
I think Zanac would be a good king, I dare say he was the best leadership candidate in the entire series. Rest in peace true King Zanac.
Zanac: exists
Ainz: he's such a chad! Might wanna change my mind
Zanac: beheaded by nobles
Ainz: yep! I'll change my mind. *I'LL MAKE IT 10 TIMES WORSE!*
zanac is in my top 5 favorite characters of the show.
he swallowed his fear with that goblet of water and stared death in the face with a smile
Poor Zanac, the great king and the real hero in the new world
Ainz could have changed his mind, spare the civilians, keep the destruction to a minimum or make a quick death to his enemies if Zanac wasn't killed by foolish nobles.
What I find astonishing is how Ainz's emotion dampener didn't activate when he saw Zanac's head. His anger was so deeply internalized that it couldn't simply be washed away. The only thing that could make him feel better was to torture the cowardly nobles until they begged for the very thing they killed their prince to avoid, death. And then they would be healed up to perfect health and tortured some more.
Sort of. The anime does a (very) terrible job explaining it but Ainz's emotional stabilizer is like a bar that fills up to 100%. Once it fills, it neutralizes his emotion down to zero though he can re-evoke emotions. Anyway if it's at 99%, it **very** slowly decreases in intensity. Far slower than a human's emotion would, and as a result when Ainz is at 99% it's much worse than anything else. So kind of like 'internalizing' but the undead equivalent.
It happened twice in the anime; Once when he found Ninya corpse and again here where he's handed Zanac's head.
Zanac might lack talent, intelligence (like Renner or Jircniv) and was weak. But he has guts to try, an important trait a ruler needs. Not many can accept ones fate and agree with an enemy’s POV. Above all, he earned Ainz respect. If you ask me, he could have been a great ruler.
RESPECT! 😢
These few minutes. In these few minutes he didn't just earn the respect of millions of people, no, he earned the respect of ainz. And not just to any degree. He earned it to the degree where ainz promised him and his army his biggest mercy that he had to offer, a instant death without pain. When he sat on his throne he even thought of how to give the whole kingdom a painless death and even thought about accepting their surrender. That's the degree that zanac earned his respect. The highest or atleast nearly highest degree that could be earned from ainz. If it weren't for betraying zanac, the nobles would have had a merciful instant death without pain. Zanac would have been a good king. He did everything that he could for his country and people and was backstabbed. I wished he had gotten a better fate.
I mean, I was already interested in Zanac even before this scene with how he was handling the Kingdom despite the shitty nobles, his soft King and his brother's death. I could tell he was an alright guy even though my first impression of him initially was just another spoiled prince but this very scene right here made him one of my favourite characters in the series. He wasn't even afraid or leaned towards doing anything desperate or pathetic, he held his ground and accepted his fate gracefully. He even saw through Ainz and realized that he had such a human mindset about what he's doing. His death9
cleared any doubts that Ainz had when he wanted to annihilate the Kingdom, there's nothing interesting left with those shameless assholes.
Bro drank that drink like a true man who has accepted his fate.
"The drink was delicious, Your Majesty"
"Bro that's plain water"
They say that only in the deepest crisis you will find out one's true face.
In the time of greatest need, Zanac was a Hero.
Not quite the "this my first time, please be gentle" scene I was expecting.
A good king.
Perhaps the only one to even scratch the surface of Ainz Ooal Gown’s empathy. I think Ainz realised in some respect that he liked someone like Zanac.
Not a sycophant or mindless servant but someone who would challenge his morals and ideals with a virtue of his own to decry any possibility of hypocrisy.
Calling him a monster and a fiend holds no weight when scum say it, but genuine nobility? That gives him enough reason to pause.
1:18 ここ一気に水飲むシーンあったけどやっぱり自分の死を悟ったんだよね
Zarnac was a mess but near the end he truly became a man worthy of the title of King, this is why Ainz was pissed when the cowardly nobles desecrated his body and betrayed him and his resolve to fight to the last man heroically.
"that logic is too extreme" and this sums up Ainz and his greatest flaw in a single sentence. He could do 99% of what he wants if not 100% (keeping his people safe, spreading the name, all that stuff) without the extreme measures. He's just a monster now.
Yeah I guess he really did change physically and mentally. His human soul is suppressed (The green aura whenever he feels something) That's what I think idk about the anime explanation lol
But you seem to be missing one key point with all of that, he's an undead. Throughout the entire story of overlord so far everyone has show clear as day biased for the undead, you noticed the first thing any human in the new world say when it comes to ainz is "because he's an undead...." He wouldn't be able to keep his people out of harms way if adventures actively try to hunt him down, his name would be slandered to hell, to sum it up who would want to sit down and have a conversation with an undead overlord (would you?)
I mean living in once a dystopian world makes the Human 'Momonga' player think less of when the normalcy of today.
Humanitarian service is not that active in his day, thus he can only serve happiness to himself or to his guildmates and the things they made online.
The 'Happiness' that he wanted to protect is by 'logical' in his eyes, that is to protect the people under him and destroy the problems in advance.
He already said it, he is hypocritical. Very selfish. And he has a reason to. The True monsters are those who lived in Momonga's dystopian world.
@@assaulthetz380 exactly this
The world was sent to utter shit because of corporations, schools are ridiculous expensive that you can only go to elementary, people complain about such a normal thing like masks? Bitch please try to go out to buy groceries with a full hazmat suit because the air will kill you.
Humanity is completely different thing in Momonga's world. They're not us, they have a different culture. If I was in Ainz's shoes as a non-human, I'd do the same thing
He's just treating humans how humans treat undead. So nothing wrong here.
He really accepted his fate but maintain his true royal position with that drink
In these few moments, he gained Ainz's respect and admiration, which only fueled his wrath upon learning his fate at the hands of the nobles. Zanac was not only robbed of his pride but was robbed of an honorable and merciful death by his hand.
Zanac started as a scumbag, but he became a man worthy of respect. Like Momonga, I thought his end was deplorable.
You see Ainz respects this dude so much that those aholes that killed him are tortured so bad.
I genuinely felt bad for zanac. From where we see him first to the last time we see him my view on him changed dramatically.
This made me respect zanac, before I viewed him as a corrupt little brat who had 0 quality to rule a country. He knew he was doomed and still was willing to fight rather then run like a coward.
The fact when first meet the prince you think he's some slimy little scheming idiot but turns out be a really good and honourabl leader
Zanac is one of the character that i hope Ainz would revive. He would be a good ruler and subordinate.
His sister is much better tool than he is.
So i guess when zanac decided to drink the water from ainz, he knew that ainz wouldn't do something dishonorable as poisoning the drink
He saw right through ainz's overlord persona and see that he's also like a human on heart, which makes him trust him and respected him a bit
Zanac already accepted death here and just gonna fight till the last breath, sadly his troops doesn't follow his ideal, doesn't understand ainz like zanac did and did something that causes them to get a much crueler fate
i like these parts of the show, slow serious and highlights the side characters than their fight scenes 😂
In the begining i tought that zanac was just the fat noble stereotype but he ended being one of my favorites outside nazarick
Ainz: guy has some serious stones to call me close minded. Respect.
Zanac I thought was a just another one to be hated but he's a Chad to laugh in the face of death so casually
at first we all thought zanac was a sus or evil yet the turn out would be just pikachu faced us. Rip Zanac the real King.
最後の最後で評価が天地ひっくり返ったな、、、、、、、、、、、、
生きていて欲しかった、、、、、、
ザナック、アインズのお茶友達で蘇生せんかなw
Lots of people think that Zanac left such an impression on Ainz that he was reconsidering the invasion on the kingdom, but that doesn't hold up after reading the light novels. What Ainz says to Zanac is true. In his mind, backing down after coming this far would lead to Nazarick questioning his authority. Even after speaking with Zanac, Ainz was not going to change his mind. He does experience a moment of regret after their conversation. Ainz ponders that if circumstances were different, Zanac would have made a powerful ally. Perhaps if he'd been left to stew in his thoughts, he might have begun to reconsider his plan. However, then the nobles bring him Zanac's head, and all thoughts of regret fly out the window.
Yea, the only thing Ainz was going to offer is a quick death, which Zanac understood was the only mercy he was ever going to be given and requested for that. Still no excuse for being a genocidal monster trying to appease his hive of evil maniacs, but that's all the mercy he would offer.
Zanac really did not deserve the tragic end he got. What Ainz did to the ones who betrayed Zanac was more than fitting.
Yeah, torturing innocent woman and children is so gracious of him. (Sarcasm)
@@johnkonig865 HUMAN women & children. Don't forget that Ainz is undead and thus, to him a regular human is like a fly or an ant to us.
Would you consider taking out flies or ants to be evil?
@@Archedgar Mate, you can simp for Ainz as much as you like, but he's at the end of the day fully aware that what he does is evil, he just doesn't care.
@@johnkonig865 Obviously. -500 karma rating=very evil. It's called *OVERLORD* .... however, whining about how Ainz, an undead, kills humans.... full ree ree.
@@Archedgar His Karma doesn't affect him, his emotions are just muted by his undead state, you can look at Demiurge to see the effects that -500 karma has on a person.
I'm also not whining, it's perfectly fine for characters to be evil, but some of you guys seem to genuinely think that Ainz can do no wrong, which is just annoying as all hell.
Zanac was willing to let their kingdom die for Ainz's goal. But not without a fight...
I went into this anime blind and when I first saw Zanac I thought he’d be the stereotypical spoiled prince but after this I genuinely respected him
「美味しかったです、陛下」
この嫌味っぽい言い方ができるほど仲良くなれたのにな
魔導国側の用意した清水を躊躇なく飲んで、感想まで言う。
この豪胆さは愚兄王子には無かった。
And then he was brutally murdered and beheaded by his own people. That enraged lord Ainz.
Who punished them severely
Zanac reminds me of Tyrion Lannister in a way that they seemingly care for their people
Zanac earned my respect, he was a real king.
"Even the bravest of players are sometimes dealt a bad hand"