Car is plastered with Tree Sap - How to remove tree sap safely
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- This week we discuss how to remove tree sap from your car safely...
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It’s very rare that tree sap comes off that easily! I’ve been in the auto business for 40 years and I’ve never seen tree sap come off that easily.
It's amphid poo
As a Pro Detailer across the pond...ive never seen IPA mot remove sap in a mater of seconds
I am certain it really depends what kind of tree the sap came from. Some tree sap is waxy like the Carnuba Palm, or some fruit trees... but there is Fir and Pine which is extremely sticky or hard. Pine Tar and tree Pitch or Resin. These dissolve easily in turpentine, but I do not know the effect it would have on car paint.
I've got hackberry tree sap, the only way water will remove it is if you scrub till your arm cramps. It's like mother nature's super glue. Perhaps the chemicals you used loosened the sap before you sprayed the water.
Alcohol takes off tree sap easily with slight rubbing. I've never seen water take off tree sap, lol.
Maple tree sap washes off with water, Pine tree sap ONLY comes off with Isopropyl Rubbing Alcohol, dilute to 12% so you don't damage the paint.
Yes, apparently British sap is weenie sap. Here in the US Pacific Northwest, sap from a Douglas-fir tree only comes off with isopropyl alcohol.
Me either
Middle Georgia sap only comes off with vinegar and a LOT of elbow grease... isopropyl doesn’t touch it. :(
I have never seen water being able to dissolve tree sap. What kind of trees do you have over there? I usually use a mix or alcohol based hand sanitizer and IPA. The sanitizer is like a gel so it allows the solvent to stay on the sap. Takes about a minute to dissolve it then I come in with a microfiber towel with a little more of the solution on it and wipe it away.
Me either. 100% doesn't work on thick wet pine sap. Your recipe here is exactly what I used this week, about 5 to 1 ratio. So glad I found it! Worst sap I'd ever seen. 4 years of parking daily just feet beside the trunks of a row of pine trees. Top surfaces were layers of sap, mold and mildew, wood bits, pine needles and more sap. After repeated foamings and high pressure washes, used microfiber and mesh bug sponge to begin cleaning organic material from droplets one by one.. then a stiff, smooth edged card to lift final bits of material that were embedded in droplets and thankfully this makes for less sap to dissolve. Took me about 20 hours to fully detail, interior, just get exterior decontaminated to where I can machine polish. But this said the vehicle is in such good condition it was worth the trouble. This added a ton if resale value. Wish I could post a picture here. Keep sharing that sap recipe. FWIW Malco makes a sprayable product name SAP with methanol, isopropanol, alkyl benzoate that looks great but it can only be purchased at suppliers so far as I know, by the $45 gallon. Cheers
@@mlstrib Glad it worked for you. I have upgraded to something that works even better now... alcohol gel for fondue burners. It's super cheap and it's more effective than the mix I used before. Might want to grab a bottle if you ever face hard to remove sap again.
@@Calendyr sure will get it👍
I had this sap all over my windscreen. It rained and it had gone, I thought I was going mad but clearly it works!
I get this a lot living next to a park I use citrus pre wash in a pressure sprayer and quickly go over the whole car and then hose it off , works for me anyway fantastic video as always John
I've tried washing my car and it has no effect on pine sap
Hand sanitizer or isopropyl alcohol
Alcohol gets it off pretty well
Sap is unfortunately not water soluble so washing won't do anything
Some tree sap comes of with water and some types of tree sap do not come of with water
that's great for removing sap from deciduous trees like lime trees, but for pine tree sap it's not going to work at all. I'd love to hear your thoughts on how to deal with that one using something that both works on the sap and won't damage the clear coat. cheers
Pine sap is exactly what I'm dealing with right now, and like you said, water definitely won't do it. Dawn dish soap won't do it... neither will Dupli-Color wax and grease remover. Isopropyl alcohol does work well, but it evaporates quickly, so I'm going to try some hand sanitizer soap. It has alcohol in it, but won't evaporate so quickly. Apparently mineral spirits work well also.
A guy that I used to work with in a detail shop always used laquer thinner to get rid of sap, it actually worked really well. It always quickly desolved the sap. This was of course after he had already washed the car with water. I worry now though that while removing the sap it also removed the clear coat... Any thoughts?
Happy to report that this video will likely save my arms and my wallet. I have a "mist of hard spots" all over our car, and nothing would make it budge. Didn't want to wash it originally, as it was washed less than 24 hours ago. Just did a test spot on the glass with a damp towel and voila! Gone!
Goo gone and tar remover didn't touch it. Car pro eraser was working, but still needed elbow grease.
5 years later, thank you!
great news was honeydew mate or literally aphid poo.
I think I will have to start selling water in bottles and call it Sap Zapper. I'll be rich 🤔😂
I was really surprised that just water did the trick. I had a dealer literally scrub the sap off my new car with an abrasive and damage the paint trying to remove tree sap. 3 trips back to the shop to correct the corrective work. Great video thank you.
depends on the kind of sap. extremely misleading video. I'm a detailer. you think we don't try water first !??? lol
@Jon Bravo Sometimes I think these videos and comments are a joke.
You think maybe that would be the first thing you would do before going to a dealer or researching how to remove it?
Using water to remove contaminates is step 1.
If you never thought about using water then how do you wash your car?
Really surprised that t&g removers didn’t work and it came off easily with water, I’ve seen Chemical guys use butter wet wax to remove sap but I’ve not tried it.
I just tried this after using multiple chemicals and this worked best! Who new!!!
Oh man, I wish you posted this last week... Car was covered in tiny spots. I pulled out my foldable cart, along with half a dozen different chemicals including citrus degreaser, spray 9 degreaser, 3D's APC 5:1, IPA (diluted to ~50%)... The IPA appeared to do the best job. So I sprayed the whole damn car down with my IPA solution, rinsed, and proceeded with a touch wash.
Thanks again for great video. I was surprised that normal water works.
Unfortunately we have little bit more difficult problem in Finland.
do you have any idea? It seems to be Aphididae waste which is falling for cars.
After normal wash i can feel that paintwork is not smooth. All horizontal surfaces are coated with something sticky.
Tar & glue removers would not work, any petrol solvants do nothing. Clay mitt or clay bar is the 2 working solutions i know. Unfortunately both are not so coating safe products to use..
We have 2 cars which we have to leave sometimes under trees, and it is so stupid to do mad work with clay mitt many times / summer.
the the aphididae waste or honeydew which should normally be water soluable. I would try to avoid removing this stuff by abrasion if you can... So if its not water soluable you might want to see if a solvent based paintwork cleaner effects it. Even something like limonene can be worth trying.. or a specific SAP remover detailing product. The trick is to try and find what disolves it.. proper tree sap generally wont break down from water but 99% of times its honeydew like in this video.
Just come across this vid, so sorry this is late to the party. My Son's car had been parked under a tree for months until it was black in many parts with dirt stuck to layers of tree sap. Nothing I tried would easily shift it until a neighbour came around with a bucket and said try this. What a miracle! Just whipped it off. And this miracle substance-hot water with a dishwasher tablet dissolved in it. Wear washing up gloves though if you try it.
A fabric steamer and microfiber towel works great. We have pine trees that are always dropping sap. It makes a mess. You will NEVER get pine sap off with just water. Steam heats the water and melts the sugars , making the sap soft and easy to remove. I don't know what trees you have but thats not pine tree sap.
Warm water works even better John
I just tested out alcohol and it was effective. I'm a little concerned it may have been hard on the paint because I see streaks now, but the sap is easily 100% gone with little scrubbing effort. I let it sit for about 5 minutes to break down the sap.
I have a tree sap problem due to a similar situation, leaving my car parked for a week whilst on holiday.
Having tried most of the products featured in this video, to no effect, after watching this I hurried out to set up the hosepipe, sadly the water had no effect on the sap either, so it’s back to the drawing board.
What do you recommend for tree sap that has really hardened, a thick glob of it, which has been missed for month or so? We have mature pines everywhere and I have a few bits on my car which I haven't been able get off fast enough, some of which have been on a year now and appear as hard as the paint itself!
IPA and water mate.
I couldn't believe this until I tried it. Water worked where specialist tar/sap remover didn't. It was chestnut tree sap on a Honda CRV 2020 with paint protection FYI.
I think it's aphid poo
So i tried your method of removing sap off my car windscreen/paint work and just water alone didn’t work. Maybe it’s because I live in an area with hard water I don’t know. I Tried all sorts to get it off clay, paint cleaners, tar and glue remove, to no avail so I gave up and finished the car off. I applied Rainx rain repellent in the windows and it came off so I tried it on the paint work and it also came off so I found rainx rain repellent is good for removing tree sap.
I just faced the same problem yesterday. I washed the car in the end of the day and did a normal wash with ph neutral shampoo. I did a pre wash with snow foam so i don't scrubb the sticky dirt and that removed all. Followed with normal hand wash.
Methyl hydrate is what I use and will remove any kind of sap. It's also cheap and readily available in most hardware stores. Just make sure there's good ventilation!
Uk tree sap: ONR diluted 256:1 just worked for me in a pump sprayer. Maybe latest ONR formula wasn’t around when this video was made.
Water didn’t work on mine. Firstly, it had no protection on it which makes things worse - but anyway, 2xValetPro Snow Foam rinse between and after. The sap was totally untouched. Tried GTechniq tar & glue, super resin polish, autoglym engine cleaner, clay - not even close as it has been baked on for a while. Started with a soft Vikan brush but ended up using the Vikan nail brush which got it off but marred the paintwork (doesn’t matter, old less-than-perfect red E46 that was due a machine polish anyway - the sap tendered parts of it black). I then went on to decontaminate - now, I have another car next to it in a similar state (also unprotected but has been machine polished). My first decontam is tar & glue followed by Korrosol. Korrosol was the one I hadn’t tried for sap removal, so on the second car I did and it softened the sap really well allowing it to be powerwashed off. Good news as I didn’t really want to redo the machine polishing on the second car. I have another but that has 3xAutoglym HD and the sap isn’t as bad. Hopefully water will work on that but if not - I guess korrosol and rewax.
Use Dawn Dish soap and a little hot water, soak tissue paper with that dish soap mixture, slap the tissue on your car body, let soak over night or even a couple of days. Can repeat with fresh dish soap soaked tissue paper for second application for another day or two. It loosens and softens the tree sap. Same principles as soaking pots in the kitchen. It worked for my BMW which had tough tree sap stuck on the paint for 2 years.
Cheers, never knew that would work. I've always tried tar & glue remover followed by a wash.
Here in the pine sap region of California I'm in. H20 is Really not cheap I have got layers of of sap 2 years worth I'm kinda freaking out because I just realized I actually don't know how to wash my truck ughhhh
Since you probably already have it on the shelf, Bilt hamber surfex hd will make short work of that sap and any other organic contaminants if you use the pressure washer to rinse :)
if H2O works, wouldn't all that sap just come off in the rain? I have never seen water remove tree sap.
Our, unavoidable, daily parking is under a Lime tree. Nightmare in summer. I snow foam and then jet off with DI water. Thankfully, that's all it takes :)
Never seen so much sap on a car! I’ve never had to remove loads of sap as keep away from trees but if I did, I would go with Auto-Foam first. It’s by far the best cleaning foam. If my car was as bad as the Golf, my have used Greenstar first I suppose to be sure. Glad you got it all off!
Great vid as always. Must admit I have to park under a tree from time to time and you get the dust mixing in with the sap and the surface feels like sandpaper. I have noticed in the past that a really good downpour of rain seems to shift most of it especially if you've got decent protection underneath. Not that we've had much of that lately!
Michael OWEN I pray for rain in the summer sometimes as it saves me a wash as well!
Very interesting Jon wouldn't have thought water was the answer
Makes sense. The sap is ment to keep water inside the leaf so when it rains it should dissolve as it no longer needed.
Great video Jon, but alas this didn't work for me. I tried Bilt Hamber Surfex / Touchless, Autoglym Professional Tar Remover and just very warm water but still no joy. The glass type beads were there to stay, so I started trawling through You Tube videos and found one by a guy called Chris Fix, who had an array of products lined up, including peanut butter and tried each one in turn. The one that really started to work was hand sanitiser and this was followed by rubbing alcohol, which did an amazing job. So I went to a local supermarket and bought a large bottle of sanitiser for just over £4 and within 30 minutes my roof and the bonnet were completely clear. I had done a test on an inconspicuous spot first. It would seem that alcohol is the key ingredient for sap removal, particularly pine etc. Cheap as chips and I still have about 95% of the bottle left.
Another great video Jon, please keep them coming. One I’d like to see is how to remove dried on wax from plastic trim. I don’t mean couple of days dried on, I mean weeks / months so it’s welded on.
As seen on tv plastic restorer wipes . Follow directions exactly. Ive tried hundreds of dollars of products , peanut butter, pledge , olive oil , wd 40 , Mothers respectively meguiars pro etc....
Sap is mainly water with other elements (like sugars). If the tree sap is taking a while to remove then, just like dissolving sugar in a pan, warming your rinse water will speed up the dissolution of the resin.
Water does not remove pine sap.
Alkaline detergent works on that sorts of problems, natural oils and bugs of course.... If it is petroleum-based problem such as asphalt or oil, use a petroleum-based detergent.
Durex Super Lube is a must for removing tree sap and bugs
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I found my boyfriend used tub of XY Jelly worked a treat
methalhydrate works amazing and its cheap as dirt its what truckers use to dry there air lines and it melts sap....a 4L jug should only be 10 bucks or so last your lifetime
Where to buy the “H20” lol
I use car pro tar x on a regular basis for tree sap. Not sure on the types of tree saps here in Montreal Canada but that's what works. Definitely recommend trying out tarx if water doesn't work 👍
I deal with pine pitch in my car every year. Nothing is a miracle cure for removing it. Rubbing alcohol works to dry it a bit but it still requires a lot of elbow grease & determination 😊
Have you tried Citrol 266. It liquefies tar on contact not sure about sap, also not sure what it does to the wax or even clear coat, but I’ve heard a lot of talk about it. Would be good to see you review the product in the future.
I have found that rubbing alcohol or hand sanitizer removes pine pitch.
I was curious about this video. I've never had an issue with tree sap remaining after a typical wash. I suspect it's not as dangerous to paint as hard water deposits which can cause horrid etching.
Citrol by Schaeffer's.... Removes adhesives, asphalt, wax, grease, rubber marks, oil, scuff marks, tree sap, tar & MORE... IT even removed pine sap off my truck with no clear coat. I got hit & it left paint transfer & it took it off 100%.... I found this stuff by Dallas detailing on RUclips... Amazing product...
I would love to know i had a job the other day pre wash wash water then snow foam then t&g still no joy this had been building up over some years all over a ML Merc ended up clay bar this is all i could find to move it this took some 2 hours plus the customer was more than happy but i have a clk to do in a few weeks time this is just like 100's of dots of vanish i cant see any easy way of removing this it made your car look like a walk in the park
@@jimomega381 Jim i will try this but the tree sap have been baked on it like vanish will this still work ?
I wonder if Dawn dishwashing liquid would get it off.
If you think that's bad you should see my car. Water definitely doesn't work on the sap from the trees on my block. Even purpose made sap removers didn't work. Although one day I sprayed some carpet cleaner on a spot and it wiped off with a paper towel. Then I read the bottle and it said don't use on paint so not really sure what to do now.
There are many types of tree sap. Of course time and temperature can develop more challenges. Water and soap do not cure many sap situations. Alcohol removes most. For sap that has been hardened for weeks or months, allow the alcohol to soften the sap for minutes, then use a soft wood to eliminate. When sap removed, wash with soap, rinse well, and apply a car wax.
For about the first five minutes, I was convinced that you were building up to a big sell of the greatest product ever made for removing tar, sap, and bugs. Turned out, you WERE promoting the "Universal Solvent." Who'd have thought? Thank you for this great video!
I don't know which trees you got there, but water alone doesn't work here. I use Motip Tar and Resin remover. It leaves no residue. Spray it on the resin(treesap) and let it work for 3-5 minutes and then with a sponge or mitt soaked in warm water and take it off.
Depends 100% on the kind of sap. I detail cars in Colorado. Water does absolutely nothing here. You could use 1000 gallons and the sap will just sit there and laugh at you.
Alcohol, Carnuba wax, acetone that's what works here.
The Mothers Synthetic Claybar works with soap and water.
My other half's car was covered in sap a few weeks back and after a wash it was still there. Tardis removed it perfectly so I don't understand why it didn't in your situation.
For the stuff that is not water soluble I use eucalyptus oil. Strong stuff though so go easy and rinse well with soap.
Should I be worried with how long i leave it on my car?
I use Tardis everyday almost perfect for removing of sticker glue and bubble gum off glass and even black carpet. G101 I don't think would work but I have never tried it. Fallout remover should work. I think I would have tried hot soapy water first to be honest. Another great video there jon 👍
Thanks for that tip LNS. I had chewing gum stuck on my carpet which some lazy person must of threw on the floor and it got stuck on my shoe and onto the carpet. I tried removing it by hand but had little reminents of it which was deep in the carpet. Also don't listen to the top comment ^^^
Zain K yeah Tardis work great for chewing gum in carpet. I just spray a bit directly on to the gum and rub in small circular motion and it just disappears and that's on any colour carpet too. Glad I could help 👍
Yeah that top comment I just ignored it 🙄
Hey John do you have any recommendations for tar removal, I think Bilt Hamber is missing this in there range. I can’t find any amongst your videos.
Surfex HD diluted 1:1... Or neat if the tar is really bad but I've never had an issue with a 50% mix 👍🏼👍🏼
Sparko 888 how strange I just added surfex HD to my basket on the BiltHamber web site 😂 thanks very much for the dilution ratio that will be a great help. 👍
hand sanitizer gel does wonders
This morning I looked at my car after I got off work I notice that I had a whole bunch of brown sticky stuff on my car the first thing I thought is that somebody poured soda all over it then I realized that I parked under a tree I'm hoping that whatever that's on my car that I washed off with sap and not soda
Interesting videos. I’m in south of France and unfortunately I can’t get ride of pine sap with water only. Someone recommended Schaeffer Manufacturing 266 Citrol Cleaner. I didn’t try yet but this product seems to be a good alternative to tar and bugs removers. I would also be interesting to compare it with your best of Tar remover which is the Tardis.
I swear by using a 70% alcohol whether it’s hand sanitiser or IPA, dissolves within 30 seconds with little to no rubbing too then wipe clear.
Water and soap did not work. I used germ x hand santizer on my windshield and it worked well but I haven't tried it on the paint yet.
Wash your car really early in the morning when the dew is still on it , tree sap comes right off
Jon, not sure you've done a video on tar removal but I've used some yesterday and stained some black plastic trim with it. Any advice on how to get rid?
Excellent video Jon. I always wondered why there was so much commotion around tree sap and how to remove it as like you, a pressure wash rinse, prewash and another rinse would be all that is required when I deal with it.
yo brian hows it going mate. I think the problem is 99% of tree sap isnt actually tree sap. its actually honeydew or aphid excrement whatever that is :) but checking its water soluable seems a good starting point.
Not true . I’ve washed many a car before trying chemicals to remove the sap. Yours trees where you live must produce weak sap .
@@braddavis9154 or maybe your pre-wash isn't very good?
My car has been sealed and waxed and when ever it gets covered in tree sap I just blast it with water and like magic the panels are super smooth again 👍
I have this bloody problem every summer as I have a tree hanging right over my driveway and I found through plenty different methods that a pre rinse, snow foam, rinse and then 2bm gets rid of it a treat. Only problem is, when I wake up the next morning, I’m back to square one 😠😠 I’m wondering if a ceramic coat would be any good to minimise it or would I be wasting my time?
Well it just happened to me, pine tree at my house just sweat out a sheet of sap. First time I have ever seen it happen.
Wow that was an amazing found, thanks for saving me money on those tree sap removal products.
note the crap on the car in this video is whats called honeydew or aphid crap. sticky brown residue and the aphids are on the trees. This crap is water soluable. If you get like the treekle like stuff that comes out of the branches, it probably wont be water soluable. But in short if you think you have zap on the car, just wash it first. 95% of the time that will sort it if its honeydew. if not then a mineral spirit type remover product is the way to go.
Forensic Detailing Channel Thanks a lot for you reply John, you’re very helpful as usual.
Hi! My car sit underneath a pear tree and I went on holiday. When I came back, it was covered in rotten pears. It washed off everywhere but the bonnet that has a dull look to the paint. It doesn't wash off with water. What would be your recommendation here ?
What a wonderful product this is H2O is, Jon. Where can I get it? Do you have a discount code for it? :)
Hi Jon, in Australia we use eucalyptus oil.
I use a bilt hamber surfex spritzed over a wet pressure washed panel it melts even big clumps of tree sap
This is a constant issue for me. I have no option but to park under trees. Will a sealant help with the regular removing of sap?
Little bit but not much mate
Scrubb free and wet wipes (walmarts parents choice) work great
Good informative video but I was a little surprised to see you had a metal tag on the end of your belt that was coming into contact with the car paintwork. We were always told to be mindful of what clothing we wore around cars.
Got flipping sap on my windscreen I've used hot water to soften, antibacterial wipes, 90% alcohol spray, these aren't working at all............ only see it when I drive at night and street lights go on windscreen.............
Yeah, that's strange. I get sap on my vehicle from pine trees. It's crystal clear and beads on the paint and can be one to two millimeters thick in height from the paint surface. When it's fresh, it's sticky and gooy and water has no effect on it what-so-ever. If it's left for three or four days, it hardens and turns an opaque white. It can be scraped off of glass with a razor blade, but I wouldn't try that on paint. Water has no effect on it. I have used Goo-Be-Gone and WD-40 with some success, but it still leaves a water mark type of blemish in the clear coat and I thought it had eaten into the clear coat. I finally tried 70% isopropyl alcohol and it dissolves the fresh or dried sap and removes the blemish completely. After removal, touch up with a spot of car wax and hand buff, since the alcohol removes any wax finishes.
8 think it was honeydew on my car
I bought the goo gone for the tree sap I have on my car...now I have this residue on my hood top of my car...im depressed about it...any suggestions?
Ashley Robinson Clorox wipes
Arlind Bk I used finger nail polish remover it worked great
Hi John, thnx for the vid. What about the 1% that doesn't that doesn't come off with H2O ? What would be your top3 products to remove three saps and tar (that's safe on wheels too) or have you made a vid on those products ?
IPA and water mate.
Wow I would of never guessed that water would cut sap like that.
Great video once again
Water has zero effect on the pine sap that drips on my car, but alcohol and acetone seem to work well.
Took my aunts car to get washed in London and had to park it on the street under trees that evening. Next morning it looks like someone has poured a honey and lemonade cocktail all over it.
Has the car been coated? if so, how long ago and with what?
What do you use when the sap has left dull patches on the paintwork? We live in London and have to use a good car shampoo to remove the dust-engrained sap but would dearly like to restore the paintwork. The car is almost brand new.
sounds like a clay and polish is the way forward mate.
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Globs of tree sap will not come off with h2o.
I use eucalyptus oil and rag with index finger being the only point of contact.
Then warm soapy h2o, then rinse.
Hand sanitizer.
@Ranger one .... Nope. I ended up using Goof off. Worked great!
@Ranger one Yes it does!!
Sap sandwich lol. I'm dealing with a sap sandwich myself, that's why I'm watching this now.
Hi
I used ubix 2000
Got rid of it no problem
Wouldve thought something natural like pure lemon juice might shift it too?