Chasing The Science Fiction Dragon - Six More Novels Reviewed

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  • @cordwainer9-lh5dc
    @cordwainer9-lh5dc 28 дней назад +1

    I read an interview with Frank Zappa back in the mid 60's. When asked what would he want to have the most if he was stuck on an island, he said "the complete works of Cordwainer Smith". That name stuck and years later, in an old dusty bookstore I found an old pulp with Smith's story "The Lady Who Sailed the Soul". I was immediately hooked and went on to collect all of his works. I hope one day you might put some time in to discuss his short stories such as "A Planet Named Shayol" and well, all of them. Truly "neato" ( used to use that word for everything I loved when I was a little kid!) I'm 74 and love finding people like you dude! Keep going man!

  • @ajaxplunkett5115
    @ajaxplunkett5115 2 года назад +33

    Blade Runner predates Neuromancer---- Gibson walked into theater to see it while working on book and was so shocked by his ideas being realized before him walked out.

    • @jpotter2086
      @jpotter2086 15 дней назад

      Creation of the Humanoids and Tower of Glass predated Bladerunner by 10-20yrs ... Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep was in between them ... and this comment is only 2yrs too late. Who cares about "originality" ... nothing is original, it's only new to you ... the execution is what matters, what differentiates; and Neuromancer was well-executed indeed.

    • @ajaxplunkett5115
      @ajaxplunkett5115 15 дней назад +1

      @@jpotter2086 Good Point that goes without saying. Although it is telling that Gibson felt personally impacted by the Ridley Scott film.

  • @peterpuleo2904
    @peterpuleo2904 2 года назад +49

    "A Canticle for Liebowitz" by Walter Miller is one of the few SF novels that is officially listed in the Western Canon as "important literature". It is not an easy read, but well worth it. It is dystopian.

    • @jrm2fla
      @jrm2fla Год назад +3

      I am SO glad they had me read Canticle in high school… a great book!

    • @apu5624
      @apu5624 Год назад +1

      Canticle.for.lebowitz, Explains modern egyptology

    • @David-iv6je
      @David-iv6je 4 месяца назад

      Excellent book

  • @pourquoicbon
    @pourquoicbon Год назад +6

    I've done the "Close the book, look at it and say wow" thing. It's a great feeling. Roadside Picnic I think was one; probably Stars My Destination as well.

  • @outlawbookselleroriginal
    @outlawbookselleroriginal 2 года назад +39

    Well, Matt, you are really getting into the great stuff: 'Neuromancer', 'Norstrilia' and 'The Iron Dream' are all in my book '100 Must Read Science Fiction Novels'. Matt Dafoe at Science Fiction Reads is going through a Cordwainer jag at the moment, which got me re-reading 'The Rediscovery of Man' which I'm loving all over again - and he directed me to the NESFA edition, which is complete, unlike the UK one (Smith's stories were split over 3 vols last time they were all in print over here) - and yep, CS is far more interesting than Banks! Would love a copy of that Dickson with that jacket, impossible to find over here, a fun book. Shame about the Gerrold, I'd recommend 'The Man Who Folded Himself' instead (as in my latest hardcover haul video), but he's not in the same league as Spinrad, Smith and Gibson. Good vid again!

    • @gbeat7941
      @gbeat7941 2 года назад +1

      Man Who Folded Himself is great

  • @michaeldaly1495
    @michaeldaly1495 Год назад +3

    Love your videos, so interesting and thought-provoking, thank you. One minor point about Neuromancer - Blade Runner came first by a few years. The whole wet Japanese neon futuristic thing comes from there.

  • @andykuhn9798
    @andykuhn9798 2 года назад +13

    FYI - Apologies for being "that inernet guy", but "Blade Runner" came out before "Neuromancer". Great channel. Keep up the awesome work!

    • @stephenmorton8017
      @stephenmorton8017 2 года назад

      yes, but did Norstrilia before Dune? being 'that guy' is what the internet is for.

  • @ftlbaby
    @ftlbaby Год назад +1

    Thank you for not playing random music in the "background."

  • @civoreb
    @civoreb 2 года назад +5

    You always got books I never heard of and they always sound great. My TBR is already at 200+ so thanks for adding more 😂

  • @awabooks9886
    @awabooks9886 2 года назад +6

    Thoughtful reviews as always, Matt.
    Since you appreciated Neuromancer, I can't recommend Gibson & Stirling's "The Difference Engine" more highly. Laid the foundations of SteamPunk as the former did for Cyber. Those two works are superbly seminal 😎

  • @helpfulcommenter
    @helpfulcommenter 2 года назад +28

    I really like you're showing different versions of covers. Sometimes the covers are the best part. Really great video evolution

    • @Bookpilled
      @Bookpilled  2 года назад +8

      Thanks. Not my original idea, I copied that from Media Death Cult

    • @helpfulcommenter
      @helpfulcommenter 2 года назад +7

      @@Bookpilled All artists borrow but great artists steal

  • @Seven-Planets-Sci-Fi-Tuber
    @Seven-Planets-Sci-Fi-Tuber Год назад +3

    Cordwainer Smith literally wrote THE textbook on psychological warfare for the US Army published in 1948 under his birth name, Paul Linebarger and titled Psychological Warfare (!)

  • @k.s.k.7721
    @k.s.k.7721 Год назад +6

    Neuromancer is the first book in the "Sprawl" trilogy by Gibson, the next two are: Count Zero and Mona Lisa Overdrive. Read them all, each builds on the former book, and the whole cycle is amazing.

  • @paznewis107
    @paznewis107 2 года назад +6

    Please persevere with the Culture novels. Player of Games is often considered one of the best, but it's Use of Weapons, and the Algebraist for me... I'm just beginning A Deepness in the Sky.
    All the best from Scotland 🙏🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🙏😸

    • @sethball2475
      @sethball2475 2 года назад +2

      May I ask you a question, paz newis?: I own the first three Culture novels…what do you think of my plan to read Player of Games first, and then Use of Weapons, before then going back and reading Consider Phlebas…the idea being that the series will endear itself to me more quickly if I turn Consider Phlebas into a “prequel” that doesn’t perhaps launch the series in the best way possible?

    • @Bookpilled
      @Bookpilled  2 года назад +2

      I do intend to read Player of Games. I hear Phlebas is lesser.

    • @outlawbookselleroriginal
      @outlawbookselleroriginal 2 года назад +2

      I have an interview clip with SF writer Tom Toner coming up on thursday 12th May on my channel where we discuss Banks - I'm not much of a fan, but Tom is, so it'll be worth a look. I'm pretty much with Matt on this, I find Banks pretty dull.

    • @paznewis107
      @paznewis107 2 года назад +1

      @@sethball2475 start anywhere, I would reread many of them many times, but perhaps Excession is the zenith... I read Great Expectations first... It's all downhill from there....

    • @paznewis107
      @paznewis107 2 года назад

      @@Bookpilled as I just mentioned to Seth start anywhere, I reread many of them many times but perhaps Excession is the best. I read Great Expectations first, it's all downhill from there...

  • @ellenlandowski1659
    @ellenlandowski1659 Год назад +6

    I love the older SF because they were thin little books and had well constructed stories with original ideas.

  • @buddhabillybob
    @buddhabillybob 2 года назад +7

    Gibson's more recent novels are even MORE divisive. I would be curious to see your take on one of those! _Norstrilia_ is now on my TBR as is _The Iron Dream_.

  • @dwinsemius
    @dwinsemius 2 года назад +2

    Get Gordon Dickson's "Tactics of Mistake".

  • @Canthatcrazy
    @Canthatcrazy 2 года назад +5

    Ooooh. Just randomly been recommended your channel by an algorithm - who knew one would actually send me something I needed. Haha.
    I'll be going down a rabbit hole when I finish work.
    I'm new to reading. I have really bad adhd, i discovered audiable a few years ago and in hooked. So I've got a lot of catching up to do.
    And I loooooove Sci fi

  • @vincentfitzgerald174
    @vincentfitzgerald174 2 года назад +6

    Hey mate. You might not remember this, or you may because you replied, but I recommended Cordwainer Smith to you a few months back. Delighted to see you enjoyed Nostrilla. Before you get to the doorstep size version of his short stories, can I recommend the smaller paperback version, short dive before the big dive. It contains A Game of Cat and Dragon, which Alastair Reynolds reckons is the best SF short story ever written. Also, I know fantasy disappoints you regularly but on foot of my CS recommend can I also recommend The Vorrh trilogy by B.Gatling. Enjoy.

  • @martinjovanovski1236
    @martinjovanovski1236 2 года назад +6

    Triplanetary is the worst in the series (and was added to the series after the fact as a prequel) .. If you want to try e.e. doc smith, try galactic patrol (It's the most pulp book i have read, so try not to laugh on stuff like Kolos galactic Balls :D Great video as always

  • @alanaschreier9115
    @alanaschreier9115 2 года назад +1

    I am new to your channel and I am pleased to see someone review some of the great SF of the past 60 years (and earlier). Good Job. There is one glaring omission in your list of great first contact novels “The Sparrow” by Mary Doria Russell (1998). You may be familiar with it. Ms. Russell was a sociology professor and is interested in what happens when two totally different cultures meet. Since such an event is not possible on Earth now, she chose to construct an intricately structured alien culture. Like in “Mote in God’s Eye”, it is the humans who make the first contact. She then explores what happens to the alien culture and also followed what happens to the crew of the first contact ship AND what happens to several individuals in the alien race. Very personal. The book is wildly original. Example: the first chapter starts the story in the middle. The second chapter tells what happens in the beginning. The book continues to alternate chapters in the way and it WORKS ! Another factoid: the first expedition to the alien world was financed by the Jesuits, but religion plays a very minor role in the story. I think you will like it. The author has written only six books in the 24 years since her first novel “the Sparrow” was published. Only one was SF, a sequel to the “Sparrow”. The others have wildly different stories and settings. Two are Westerns. Again wildly original. Enjoy.

  • @peterpuleo2904
    @peterpuleo2904 2 года назад +7

    "Colossus: the Forbin Project" is a good one. The movie version was excellent.

  • @pattube
    @pattube 6 месяцев назад +4

    Dune was published in 1965. Norstrilia (complete and final version) was published in 1975, but Norstrilia had short novelettes and stories as forefunners which were published in 1964. Not sure if either Dune and/or Norstrilia influenced the other or to what extent. In any case, I definitely love Cordwainer Smith and think he's hugely underrated. In fact, he's one of my favorite writers in any genre.

  • @sciencefictionreads
    @sciencefictionreads 2 года назад

    Many thanks for the video recommendation of Gregory Sadler's. I'm looking forward to that as well as Norstrilia. I'm a good portion of the way through his short fiction collection and its superb. Especially reading them in chronological order and watching the worldbuilding expand as mankind advances, or in some cases declines along the way.

  • @Satorotas89
    @Satorotas89 2 года назад +2

    Great vid Matt. Just finished Children of Ruin and it contains some superb Sci-Fi horror which I know is your cup of tea, maybe one to add to the list/fireplace.
    You do have to read Children of Time first, but that is no bad thing!

    • @stephenmorton8017
      @stephenmorton8017 2 года назад

      yes, those are good. i read them right after the Three Body Problem series. great big stories.

    • @awldune
      @awldune Год назад

      The horror element in Children of Ruin was very unexpected for me and pretty disturbing.

  • @MokurenDojo
    @MokurenDojo Год назад +3

    The Harlie book is a funny review. David Gerrold is the guy who wrote The Trouble with Tribbles - probably the most beloved Star Trek episode ever. He still kicks around on FB if you have any desire to chat with him.
    Loving your channel. Keep it up!

  • @chrisw6164
    @chrisw6164 2 года назад +5

    I read Masters of Everton many years ago and liked it. It’s below average among the Dickson novels I’ve read. His library is very diverse so I usually recommend the Dorsai books first.
    I read The Iron Dream not long ago. I DNFed it, mostly because I found myself saying “I get it” and didn’t see why it needed to be a full-length novel. Spinrad is a skilled writer and I will be back for more at some point.

  • @robertdeveau7445
    @robertdeveau7445 2 года назад +5

    Nice video! Neuromancer is my #1 Sci-Fi book, I read it when it came out and re-read it a few more times back in the day. Burning Chrome is also a fantastic short story IMO. I read a few Bruce Sterling books, Heavy Weather and Islands in the Net I still have, but never found his works engaging enough.

  • @steverobbins4872
    @steverobbins4872 2 года назад +7

    I've never read When Harlie was One. But I recall a couple of old books about AI that I really liked. Sea of Glass by Barry Longyear, and The Adolescence of P-1 by Thomas Ryan.

  • @MemphiStig
    @MemphiStig 11 месяцев назад +1

    All those Neuromancer covers and I didn't see the one I read. It blew my mind. I had a time figuring out the jargon at first but once I got it, wow, what a world.

  • @typhonviserys8288
    @typhonviserys8288 Год назад +1

    Just picked up Necromancer by Gordon R. Dickson (I misremembered the name of that one book EVERYONE recommends).
    Only a couple chapters in, but I like it so far. :)

  • @aajiv1748
    @aajiv1748 2 года назад +7

    Having read science fiction since 1953 I have never read nor to think there is a more unique author than Cordwainer Smith , I don't think there will be another like him. Yes do read The Rediscovery of Man. I first read Smith because of the titles of his stories, first ever was "Scanners Live in Vain" , but how could you go wrong with titles like Think Blue, Count Two" , "The Ballad of Lost C'Mell" or "No, No, Not Rogov!" .... more... Or find out about the Mother of All Planetary Defense Systems in "Mother Hitton's Littul Kittons".... alas died relatively young due to a health condition he had or there would have been more.

    • @waltera13
      @waltera13 2 года назад +1

      Scanners Live in Vain is a Trip! I can't always kranch it tho.

    • @peterpuleo2904
      @peterpuleo2904 2 года назад

      Great to hear from a reader who is even older than I am! LOL

    • @aajiv1748
      @aajiv1748 2 года назад

      @@peterpuleo2904 Yeah I am so old that when I was born the Dead Sea was just Ill.

    • @peterpuleo2904
      @peterpuleo2904 2 года назад +1

      @@aajiv1748 LOL. It seems that wherever I go nowadays, I am always the oldest guy in the room, and older than the building I am in, too.

    • @owenbutler5624
      @owenbutler5624 2 года назад

      The other unique author (I know!) is Jack Vance

  • @irondrunk9654
    @irondrunk9654 2 года назад +4

    Blade Runner came out before Neuromancer

  • @Leo-sd3jt
    @Leo-sd3jt 2 года назад +3

    Neuromancer is great and so is the rest of the Sprawl trilogy, in my opinion. I think a lot of the divisiveness comes from people's reading styles. If you're used to reading fast because the stuff you read is mostly filler with key words then you'll need to slow down for Neuromancer since you'll be missing most of the content since it's so dense. Neuromancer slowed my reading speed significantly because I noticed that I was missing out on so much.
    Also, Neuromancer feels like being dropped in the middle of a foreign city. You'll hear words and terms that you won't know about but you'll need to take a mental note of them because within a chapter you'll encounter more info about them and so if you go back and re-read the initial parts then everything will make sense. Kinda how when you learn what a word you've been hearing actually means and that gives you context to past conversations. I think people don't expect that from the book and end up struggling through it and disliking it.

  • @egoexnihil2851
    @egoexnihil2851 2 года назад +8

    On the subject of old-school cyberpunk, you might really appreciate "Hardwired" by Walter jon Williams. It was published couple of years after the Neuromancer, and it shares a lot of the same DNA (both being 80s action-packed neon dystopia thrillers), but it's more politically charged and imho just higher quality prose. A hidden gem of the genre.

    • @Bookpilled
      @Bookpilled  2 года назад

      Sounds cool, thanks

    • @WilliamSlayer
      @WilliamSlayer 2 года назад +1

      Agreed! A book I loved and am planning to read again.

  • @WaywardWhiteWalker
    @WaywardWhiteWalker 2 года назад

    just found your channel. I love me some science fiction. When you only read three pages and it sucks, it really shows you gotta his the ground running. Cheers

  • @burtbacarach5034
    @burtbacarach5034 2 года назад +1

    The Mote in Gods Eye is easily in my top 5 sci fi novels.The storytelling is first rate,the characters are believable and it's just overall an enjoyable read.The story hints at an empire preceeding the present,where techniques were available then but lost now.Sadly,the follow up novel,whicj took Jerry Pounelle and Larry Niven almost ten years to write,is far less enjoyable,at least to my.And again,sadly,that universe wasn't really built upon,at least to my knowledge.And yes,Cordwainer Smith was a unique artist.Never vulgar or excessively violent,his stories are truly a rarity in sci fi.Great vid.

  • @peterflom6878
    @peterflom6878 Год назад

    If you want a scary and remarkably old novel about self aware computers try The Adolescence of P1

  • @Paul_Bond.
    @Paul_Bond. Год назад

    That little book you have there is fantastic, it has informed my reading quite recently. It's one that you can take as much or as little as you won't from. I have found that the further reading section at the end of each main recommendation is better than the actual main review. Pat Caddigan is not someone I would have read without it. I would recommend reading Richard Morgan as an excellent post Cyberpunk author and Bruce Sterlings Artificial Kid is very strange and also Rudy Rucker is a bit of a head fuck.

  • @vdr3846
    @vdr3846 2 года назад +2

    My main takeaway from this video- thrilled that someone is keeping the word "neato" alive in 2022.

  • @simonquinn5583
    @simonquinn5583 2 года назад +2

    Really enjoying these reviews! Are you going to do Lord of Light? Another set I'd be interested to hear are the Demon Princes books by Jack Vance. Maybe not good, but interesting

    • @Bookpilled
      @Bookpilled  2 года назад

      I have the full set of Demon Princes in Daw paperbacks. I want to get to it soon but will finish the Dying Earth series first. Lord of Light is somewhere on the agenda, yes.

    • @simonquinn5583
      @simonquinn5583 2 года назад

      @@Bookpilled ok I will eagerly await those!

  • @arielpurkeypile9911
    @arielpurkeypile9911 2 года назад +2

    Neuromancer is short enough that it can and probably should be taken in a small number of big bites. Bill Gibson is prophetic not only of future sci-fi, but of future science and even how we see the actual future and our place in it.

  • @8020Alive
    @8020Alive 2 года назад +3

    Listening while on a long drive - excellent Sunday treat. Thanks for the new vid bookpilled!

  • @danieldelvalle5004
    @danieldelvalle5004 2 года назад +5

    I had the same experience reading Cordwainer Smith, except that I read his short stories first. Norstrilia is next. Reading him is an experience. There is a short story collection which I think Robert Silverberg helped put together with the title You Will Never Be The Same.

    • @marlo9507
      @marlo9507 2 года назад +1

      You will never be the same

    • @danieldelvalle5004
      @danieldelvalle5004 2 года назад

      @@marlo9507, thank you for the correct title.❤

  • @MediaDeathCult
    @MediaDeathCult 2 года назад +3

    PAXWAX!

    • @waltera13
      @waltera13 2 года назад

      The only thing that makes this comment better is Google keeps trying to translate it!

  • @dennissherier3209
    @dennissherier3209 2 года назад +2

    Yes, you really missed it by not finishing ‘When Harley was One’. You should try to finish it. David Gerrold is a wonderful author. The story was s about a computer program that becomes sentient, always accessing more and more memory, where ever it can find it. The interaction between Harley and real people is noteworthy. -Dennis

  • @rhclark6530
    @rhclark6530 Год назад +1

    No question Neuromancer is one of those books thats was so influential it became a dividing line in science fiction writing. I was however shocked at the time at how bad the prose was. It reads like a graphic novel without the graphics. Its also interesting to note that it was so complete a vision that all cyberpunk that has followed has felt like a kind of parody of it. Its an entire genre that was completely played out in one novel. Though Stephenson's "Snow Crash" is quite good.

    • @meesalikeu
      @meesalikeu 9 месяцев назад

      snow crash starts out beyond great but then gets boring in the middle. 😂

  • @sethball2475
    @sethball2475 2 года назад +4

    Terrific video! As soon as I see you prepared to talk about six books, it’s time to settle in and enjoy extensive commentary on the ones you especially loved, and you delivered.
    I remember reading When HARLIE Was One, and having exactly your problems. I think it got revised and “modernized”, so as to shed its 1970s tells, but I read what you read, and have no time for revamps. I have to recommend The Man Who Folded Himself, by Gerrold, instead. Will likely provide a totally different Gerrold experience.
    I love Norstrilia, and do not like Neuromancer - so let’s split the diff on those. Love that cheesy Gray Morrow cover on the Norstrilia edition we both own. I need to read the rest of Cordwainer Smith - gonna guess I’ve read and forgotten a few of his short stories in collections - but, on the other side of the coin, if you pursue more cyberpunk, especially from around Neuromancer’s time, maybe keep an eye out for the one I loved from 1985 - The Silicon Man, by Charles Platt. I also wonder what you would think of a neglected book by Christopher Priest, The Extremes.
    You make me want to order The Iron Dream immediately. I highly recommend Bug Jack Barron by Spinrad.

    • @Bookpilled
      @Bookpilled  2 года назад

      Spinrad is strange in that I never ever run into his books when browsing in meatspace. I have heard that title though, will pick it up if I do find it. And I've never heard of a book getting the Spielberg treatment like that before. Pretty wild.

    • @sethball2475
      @sethball2475 2 года назад

      @@Bookpilled There’s a Bob Shaw novel that started life as Ground Zero Man, but got re-released years later as The Peace Machine. I agree with Outlaw Bookseller, the earlier title for the novel was so much more dynamic - “The Peace Machine” is a dull title, maybe more than Ground Zero Man being all that brilliant - but it wasn’t just a title change. The book had minor “revisions”, and The Peace Machine was “updated”. I never read the updated version, but Ground Zero Man, written in the 1970s, featured a newscast in its proposed future of 1988 that, in its Entertainment News, talked of John and Yoko living happily in a new house (or something like that). So I can see how that sort of thing would get deleted right out - but how could anyone foresee what happened to John Lennon. Regardless, my impression is that Gerrold’s novel got more things changed than Bob Shaw’s book.

  • @cravensean
    @cravensean 2 года назад +1

    Norstrilia is about a year older than Dune but the setting goes back as far as 1945.

  • @psykorobot6807
    @psykorobot6807 2 года назад

    You do realize Blade Runner (the movie) did not follow Neuromancer, right? (23:13) Blade Runner was 1982. Neuromancer was 1984. So. I don't see how Blade Runner could have been influenced by Neuromancer at all. More than likely, it was the other way around and Gibson was in part influenced by Ridley Scott's Blade Runner movie based on Philip K. Dick's 1968 novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep.
    Edit: Gibson was writing Neuromancer when Blade Runner came out and was afraid to see the movie because he thought it would be better than what he had imagined for his book. And admitted later he had been right to be afraid as the first few minutes of the movie were better. When he found out the movie failed commercially at the box office, he worried further about what that could mean for his book.

  • @chuckbridgeland6181
    @chuckbridgeland6181 2 года назад +2

    I vaguely remember reading "When Harlie was One." I think it was serialized in Galaxy. No desire to read it again.
    Norstrilia was not Linebarger's only novel. He wrote a couple others, very early, before he started writing SF. Yes, you >>must

  • @meesalikeu
    @meesalikeu 9 месяцев назад

    i just read norstrilia last month on a month and a half trip to australia. talk about perfect timing, right? heads up i left it there at an op shop in south melbourne if anyone wants it (sacred heart on clarendon st). really enjoyed it although i felt it just kind of petered out at the end it was still satisfying. amazing world building and ideas for sure.

  • @leefranklin3054
    @leefranklin3054 Год назад +1

    Neuromancer is quite the novel. A couple years later Walter Jon Williams wrote Hardwired which if nothing else you need to read the first chapter, which is painted in vivid colors.

  • @Joe-lb8qn
    @Joe-lb8qn Год назад +2

    The man who folded himself by David Gerrold is one of the best time travel stories ive read, similar in a way to to the short story By his Bootstraps by Heinlein

  • @shimi3065
    @shimi3065 2 года назад +1

    You hesitation to read Nueromancer is exactly my hesitation as well. Your review has pushed me closer to checking it out.

  • @JeffMPalermo
    @JeffMPalermo 2 года назад +2

    Agree 100% about Neuromancer. The writing is incredible - electric and startling. One note: Gibson was actually influenced by Blade Runner, as it was released several years before Neuromancer.
    Really enjoy your channel. I also hate much sci-fi that I read even though I adore the genre.

    • @meesalikeu
      @meesalikeu 9 месяцев назад

      no, not at all. only that gibson was was writing neuromancer and so was shocked by the blade runner movie and walked out stunned. he did not know the pkd story either. so not really an influence on his book.

  • @ryanthornton1629
    @ryanthornton1629 2 года назад

    @6:20 sorry if this is a dumb question.
    What do you mean by your use of “purple” in describing the ending of this book?
    I find it interesting. I’ve never heard that turn of phrase before.

    • @Bookpilled
      @Bookpilled  2 года назад +2

      "Purple prose" is writing that's overloaded with attempts at profundity or artfulness. When an author overreaches their actual descriptive abilities.

  • @bfitzger2
    @bfitzger2 2 года назад +1

    NESFA Press released a collection of all of Cordwainer Smith's short stories titled The Rediscovery of Man. I highly, highly recommend you track down a copy.

  • @LadyNicola
    @LadyNicola Год назад

    Well, I've got Charlemagne, Hitler and Napoleon in a battle for the Holy Roman Empire and I'm completely stuck. Those books may help!

  • @TheAnarchitek
    @TheAnarchitek 26 дней назад

    David Gerrold wrote the story that became Trouble with Tribbles (originally "fuzzy"), as well as "The Doomsday Machine", and every bad episode of a half-dozen other sci-fi TV efforts. He wrote with Jerry Niven, on The Flying Sorcerors, a half-witted attempt at a topic better-realized by L Sprague de Camp, or Fletcher Pratt. Not funny, not interesting, not very different from the one you dissect.

  • @shannonm.townsend1232
    @shannonm.townsend1232 2 года назад +2

    Speaking of cyberpunk, would love to hear your thoughts on K.W. Jeter(Farewell Horizontal, Noir, etc.) & Rudy Rucker's early output. Both authors were more prolific than the dearth of commentary might suggest. Also: not that easy to find in the wilds of northern california. Great overview of genre lit as always, Bookpilled ty

    • @jumperpoint
      @jumperpoint Год назад

      Rucker had a tendency to just get weird. I remember thinking he was doing some interesting drugs to come up with some of his stuff. I didn't like the writing, but I had to give him credit for getting so far out.

    • @shannonm.townsend1232
      @shannonm.townsend1232 Год назад

      @@jumperpoint I kind of agree; rember getting weirded outt by a book in his wetware trilogy? something about robot brains controlling humans, and a P.I. that was into a body-melting drug called Merge

  • @darktower74
    @darktower74 7 месяцев назад

    Have you read "Quest of the Three Worlds" by C. Smith? I'm pretty sure it's not part of "The Rediscovery of Man" or "Norstrilia", but I can pass on the ebook to you if you like. I started Norstrilia.... but I shouldn't have dipped my toe into it because I'm knee deep in Abercrombie right now. I'll certainly come back to Norstrilia and Quest of the Three Worlds". Haven't tracked down "The Rediscovery of Man" yet.

  • @megawavez
    @megawavez 2 года назад +1

    Neuromancer - great dystopian read and weird to see how much of Gibson's vision has become a reality.

  • @chrisconners1632
    @chrisconners1632 11 месяцев назад

    A book I did enjoy by David Gerrold was The Man Who Folded Himself. Kind of a time travel/ multiverse thing but interesting thought experiment about meeting yourself in different versions along the variable possible outcomes of time travel.

  • @EdwardRLyons
    @EdwardRLyons 4 месяца назад

    I'm two years ate getting to this edition, but ... Thank You! for the link to Gregory B Sadler! As I've just found out, he has a 39-video series on PKD which I have now made a must-watch playlist!

  • @psikeyhackr6914
    @psikeyhackr6914 Год назад

    There was an incident in When HARLIE was One where they uploaded the program into a larger computer with lots of memory and the program responded as if it was high on drugs. The computer scientist figured out what was going on.
    My responses to HARLIE and Neuromancer are the exact opposite of yours. I was a Customer Engineer for IBM and soldered together my first computer in 1978. Is science fiction about being literary or technology affecting society? Of course the effects will be dependent on what most people comprehend about technology.
    Ever read C. P. Snow's Two Cultures?

  • @jmoman5356
    @jmoman5356 8 месяцев назад

    Triplanetary is one of if not my favorite book. Listened to it several times (yes that’s cheating lol). Try the PKD short story “The Variable Man”. You won’t like it but I love it lol. And “Day of the Trifids”. A plant zombie book.

  • @UnwashedPearl
    @UnwashedPearl 7 месяцев назад

    I find Spinrad fascinating. I like everything I have found by him specifically, Bug Jack Baron and Child of Fortune.

  • @francissreckofabian01
    @francissreckofabian01 2 года назад +1

    I read Norstrilia in my 20s (several centuries ago now). All I remember was it was way weird and enjoyable. Another book to re-read. (FD: I am Australian). Iron Dream. Another re-read. Bloomsbury book is quite good. So is the Pringle 100 Best SF Novels: an English-language selection, 1949-1984 (and the sequel 1985 - 2010 edited by Damien Broderick & Paul Di Filippo,) Time for a 3rd version soon? Also, Pringle's Ultimate Guide to Science Fiction..

  • @Bbthomask
    @Bbthomask Год назад

    "When H.A.R.L.I.E. Was One, Version 2.0" is, even by the author's opinion, far better. In fact, he recommends not to read the first version.

  • @chaddesrosiers1107
    @chaddesrosiers1107 Год назад

    I'm sure When Harlie was one... is dated. I haven't read it. I have to say though 1972... and it sounds like the themes are spot on. Training of AI instead of inventing them was an idea ahead of its time. Its too bad a more competent writer didn't expand on the idea back then. A Rice and Stanford study was just released a few days ago that details how training on their own output AI models started... "tripping".

  • @Rogue_VI
    @Rogue_VI 2 года назад +1

    I like a lot of Dickson's stuff. Much of his Childe Cycle is very good. Although it's been probably 15-20 years since I last read it, I always felt his stand-alone novel The Way of the Pilgrim was great. I've only read one of Cordwainer Smith's short story collections, but I enjoyed it. WRT the Culture, Consider Phlebas was ok, but I found The Player of Games to be noticeably better. I'm looking forward to reading more Culture novels.

  • @gordonkent5371
    @gordonkent5371 Год назад

    Probably already mentioned but Neuromancer was released way after Bladerunner. Both still excellent though...

  • @richardjones7984
    @richardjones7984 8 месяцев назад

    Being English we have a tradition of exorbitant metaphors. These are a good thing in literature because they allow complex non linear multi-associated concepts to be expressed. King James Bible is one example. The Quran is another. Americans have been programmed by their culture to switch off immediately the moment they encounter such complex concepts. This is so they can remain fully mind controlled. So learn to love complex and irrational metaphors.

  • @ComicRhema
    @ComicRhema 2 года назад +1

    Great vid as always Matt. Thanks for heads up on new books to consider. I’ll be reading Neuromancer soon. Hope all is well. God bless

  • @LandOfTanks
    @LandOfTanks 4 месяца назад

    David Gerroldl! Trouble with Tribbles! Only good thing he 'wrote.'

  • @matthewscherneck6291
    @matthewscherneck6291 Год назад

    bro on nazi satire, have you seen "jojo rabbit", fucking hilarious with heartfelt ending.

  • @TexasPelican
    @TexasPelican 2 года назад

    David Gerrold is uneven. Some of his stuff is good, most of his work is mediocre.

  • @westgeorgiapiper9339
    @westgeorgiapiper9339 Год назад

    Have you read Gerrold’s Chtorr series? Great world building even if the dialogue is wonky and the characters are flat.

  • @seanwinter4784
    @seanwinter4784 6 месяцев назад

    Neuromancer is my favourite SF book of all time. Absolutely brilliant

  • @jmoman5356
    @jmoman5356 Год назад

    Triplanetary is my favorite by far I think. I’ve listened (yes cheated) to it like three times. I love the hokey corny nature of it.

  • @penguinYT1
    @penguinYT1 Год назад

    I read When H.A.R.L.I.E Was One about the time it came out. Didn't like it even back then.

  • @milton420Go
    @milton420Go 5 месяцев назад

    Do not know if you have addressed this before -- relatively new subscriber here -- but how long before you DNR one book?

  • @Tia-Marie
    @Tia-Marie 2 года назад +1

    I've been reading a lot of Larry Niven and Robert Silverberg, enjoying both of them.

  • @MrIgorkap
    @MrIgorkap Год назад

    My Favorite by Gordon Dickson is hands down Way of The Pilgrim it's a very fascinating concept.

  • @frankshifreen
    @frankshifreen Год назад

    Have you read Annalee Newitz-Autonomous- I thought it was great

  • @fonebonedon
    @fonebonedon 10 месяцев назад

    Read Dickson's Dorsai Novels in the Childe Cycle!

  • @waltera13
    @waltera13 2 года назад +1

    Glad to hear you're loving the cyberpunk. I hope you satill have that copy of Mirrorshades! I still say you'll probably like "Burning Chrome" even better.
    A number of PKD's short stories from the 50's blew me away at how cyberpunk they were. No I don't have any thing as usefull as specific titles ( and some of those 118 short stories read like early Heinlein - caveat lector.)

    • @Bookpilled
      @Bookpilled  2 года назад

      I flipped the mirror shades on ebay before I knew what it was. Alas, alas.

  • @onlinedayton9882
    @onlinedayton9882 2 года назад +1

    Oh Neuromancer. One day I’ll not DNF you and see why everyone adores you so.

  • @David-iv6je
    @David-iv6je 4 месяца назад +1

    I don't think I could do random SF, especially old. It's bad enough having Larry Niven talk about how women are for sex. At least he's crative and can rub two words together to get a spark.

  • @johnbarry6914
    @johnbarry6914 Год назад

    You just described my basement at ruclips.net/video/xbPTQNsrZxw/видео.html

  • @aajiv1748
    @aajiv1748 2 года назад

    Say , watching your videos , good to see someone reading classic science fiction. Have you read any Theodore Sturgeon? More Than Human is my second favorite SF novel.

    • @Bookpilled
      @Bookpilled  2 года назад

      I've read one story collection. I had a copy of More than Human but sold it before I saw it endorsed by a bunch of people. I'm on the look for another copy.

    • @aajiv1748
      @aajiv1748 2 года назад

      @@Bookpilled (This reply got lost somehow.) Stephen King wrote an obituary for Theodore Sturgeon who praised him as one of America's greatest short story writers (alas unjustly unknown). ("Theodore Sturgeon (1918-1985)" -- The Washington Post Bookworld May 26, 1985) King said he was a writer's writer. From 1940 to to 1960 no other SF writer was as fine a craftsman as him. Kurt Vonnegut was such a fan of Sturgeon he used him as a character in some of his stories where he called him Kilgore Trout.

  • @D4n1t0o
    @D4n1t0o 2 года назад

    You often discuss works with underlying Conservative or Right-Wing Politics with a tone of disapproval.
    I can certainly understand that school of thought, being in many ways left-wing politically.
    However, I do think it would be fascinating to see you talk about some examples of Conservative/Right Wing Sci-Fi that, despite their uncomfortable/repugnant/horrific implied politics, impress you on a technical or conceptual level.
    That said, I think you'd get stick from those less comfortable with separating politics from skill and imagination.
    Would you be interested in making such a video? If not, would it be because there would be a bad reaction or is there another reason? Perhaps that you're of the opinion there is no quality Conservative/Right-Wing Sci Fi?
    I won't assume, but I would be interested in your thoughts on the idea.
    Enjoyed this video. Glad I subscribed.

    • @Bookpilled
      @Bookpilled  2 года назад

      I don't know if I'd make a full video about it because I already get enough whining comments from conservatives as it is. I've talked about this topic in a few places. I have no problem with right-wing literature as such. I read a lot of authors that people on the left dislike (Mishima, Houellebecq). What I have a real problem with is cheapness, ugliness, easy answers, jingoism, shallow adulation of power. Most if it is either dull or repugnant.
      Conservative SF writers I like, and of course the term is a loose designation: Cordwainer Smith, Gene Wolfe, Vernor Vinge, Gordon Dickson to a lesser extent.

  • @pnKroKbobby
    @pnKroKbobby 2 года назад

    haha, i just left a comment about consider phlebas on another video. Looks like you've been exposed to it. Sorry to hear it didn't grab you, i really enjoyed the craziness of that book in how the names and scenes Iain painted were so .....grand. Regardless...i'll have to check out Nostrilia

  • @frankshifreen
    @frankshifreen Год назад

    Also liked Eliott James “ Pax Arcana” serIes

  • @brendacorrea9167
    @brendacorrea9167 2 года назад

    What do you opinionate on the 1920's novel metropolis?

  • @paulperkins1615
    @paulperkins1615 Год назад

    When you mentioned wanting to read more cyberpunk, I at once thought of Trouble and Her Friends by Melissa Scott, first published in 1994. It is probably best known for having a lesbian protagonist, but I just like that it takes the basic "hackers in virtual reality" setting and gives it a more grounded feeling.

  • @jean-marieboucherit4518
    @jean-marieboucherit4518 2 года назад

    One Way of talking about Books istakingabout bad books!!

  • @bardmadsen6956
    @bardmadsen6956 2 года назад

    Would you like to read a book about real dragons? Follow my avatar to About, Links, and email. I thought this video was all about dragons, but watched the whole thing even though I don't read fiction.

  • @hectorrivero2173
    @hectorrivero2173 Год назад

    Could u name your channel “30 seconds to books” ?