Great video, still watching. A nice tip along with the wavescan is that the wavescan is 24bit interpolation between each step giving thousands of waveforms inbetween each of the main 8 waveform steps. But a single knob can’t scan through that fine of a resolution without making your arm twist around till it falls off. So a fun way to get that smooth wavescan is to set a macro to wavescan but only give it a value of day 32 , then the full throw of the macro is scanning super smoothly through just a smaller section of your wavescan. Just lots of hidden depth :) . Really liking the format of this show. So many camera views!
I’ve never used anything with as brilliant an interface for building complex patches as Hydrasynth. It’s a very digital sounding synth but it blends so well with DCO analogs like my Deepmind 12. My favorite thing in the synth world is building layered patches between the two - though I feel like I’m taking a big step backwards when programming DM, relative to the ease and fluidity of sound design on Hydrasynth.
the guy demonstrating is so excited, and im so excited watching this, i can absolutely see how this is all justified. Hydrasynth is the "next-gen" synth and IMO is a sleeper among the solely-analogue community
I was already close to pulling the trigger on this. after seeing this Deep Dive, It's a done deal. Especially after seeing &hearing you guys begin crankin on that joint. One of the best demonstrations of a synth I've seen. Thanks !
got my desktop last week. had a few quick sessions to fiddle with presets and was very happy. the other evening i had nearly 2 hours to dig and and explore, and had something like a 4 voice multitimbral patch going with the amazing modulation possibilities available. absolutely love this synth, and i haven't even considered in depth about how i'll work it into my big ol euro setup. the fact that midi is available in the mod matrix opens up so many possibilities for sequencing with a simple keystep. its a beautifully designed synth and offers immediate gratification as well as untold gems with deeper exploration waiting for you.
*Great walkthrough!* The ARP Phrase demo is great, actually the phrase can be quantized by the Voice Scale as well, so you can easily vary it or match it to the piece you're working on. In fact you can now customize the panel button UP and LO part colors to your liking when it's in MULTI mode on the Deluxe.
Great demo of features and tips. The poly aftertouch is a giant feature that they don’t showcase too much as I’m not sure he’s much of a player? Mine arrives next week 🎉🤘
"Estimated delivery: 1st - 3rd March" ... it's getting closer! Good to have another video to watch while I wait. And there was some non-obvious stuff in here that I hadn't seen before.
I have the explorer for three days now and sat down with it today, without manual reading, and got lost in it within minutes. after a short while I thought this thing is like no other synth and it feels like my modular system. Then stumbled upon this vid and you guys just proofed my thought. And gave me so much to dig deeper, wonderful presentation! And so far the best video ever for me, I love the love for the instrument in here, and when you guys try to resist of getting carried away. Well done! :)
Thank you! Definitely in agreement that these are synth that you can really get lost exploring - lost in the _good_ way, that is. They have such a unique and clear interface, you can just get absorbed in sound design ☺
Hello Gear4Music. I'm really digging this video. I sse that they have their drum machine connected to the Hydra. Can you tell me what typeconnections they have connected? I'd like to hook up my Elektron MK 2 to my Hydra Deluxe. Thanks in advance !
The step LFO function and being able to have each oscillator on it’s own LFO gets you very close to a Moog Subharmonicon in a way. Being able to use polyrhythms with pitches to create ever evolving chords or melodies. I have always wanted a Subharmonicon but never pulled the trigger. This seems even better! I’m beyond excited to get my Deluxe in next week!
I did watch the vid to the end and did really enjoy it, but i can't believe that in a demo of nearly an hour there's not one actual playable synth sound. I like a modulation noodlefest and/or sequencer exploration expedition as much as the next, but a showcase of the lead, bass, pad, stringy sound capabilities would be useful too. ;)
Thanks for this great video. Finally got time to watch the whole hour. I just got this synth for my birthday and it's a bit overwhelming the capability they packed into it.
Thanks Dan - make sure you install the 2.0 update as there is some great stuff in there. We just shot a video exploring it which will be out soon, perhaps that may help. Honestly the Hydrasynth is one of the most rewarding synths so stick with it, and the manual is fantastic also!
Question about the keybed - on the Korg Keystage, which uses the ASM keybed (at least the technology, if not the exact keybed), there is a warning that you can wear out something if you push too hard on the poly aftertouch. What's up with that? Is there a similar warning in the Hyrdasynth maunual?
The synth truly looks and sounds incredible.. but digital has been awesome for a long time. Virus synths were unashamedly digital and still sound awesome. D50? Then of course you've got things like serum which are clearly digital and sound very good when you want them to, but also can actually draw your own wave tables. The hydra is first synth on my shopping list for years. Everything else in hardware pales in comparison really now. I just pray it properly syncs up, which my Evolver, Blofeld, and virus all struggle with at times.
So I just figured out that I have enough gear to sell to upgrade to this keyboard. This is my dream synth. Ever synth the 49 key came out, but especially since the Deluxe came out!
I just ordered the 49 key this morning. I got a good price on a mint used one. If I like it as much as I think I will, I'll probably upgrade eventually. I have some other synths that I want to get first.
Just got one. The good old Waldorf Q is quite similar in signal path lot of ways (osc, filt pan and routing and loads of mod sources). I feel this some long lost decedent to a degree
The Hydrasynth definitely feels like a hybrid of past and future, agreed - although it's novel to have the 'mutants'. Note similar 'fast access' button structure to the Ensoniq ESQ-1, where you have those buttons to hop around the menu parameters. The Hydrasynth definitely pays homage to that!
I’ve owned a Q, but regret selling, I now have a quantum and string synth plus a hydra 8 voice, I can’t recommend this synth enough, it’s different to the Waldorf Q and Quantum however it’s got its own character and has been designed so very well, it’s not even expensive fir what you get. My only regret is that I haven’t got the deluxe. However I may do in future. The Hydrasynth is probably one of the best synths you could possibly get at the moment considering it’s price too. Endless possibilities, especially with the new OS no 2 update.
anyone who thinks "digital" is some kinda lesser concept,should take a look at KORG's "digital digital digital one". DIGITAL is awsome,if one can imagine it.its all good!
The totally annoying filter knob is the exact same size as all the others instead of it being bigger the patch selector knob is. Many programs lost that way . I noticed the hydra in this demo fell behind tempo is this one not updated yet? 👽
Hey Jens, I hope you've figured it out by now. If not, you have to press the LOWER or UPPER button and then the BROWSE button (it's on the left side of the big knob with which you change patches). Then you can change the patch for only that layer with that big knob.
@@jensingvordsen Sure, you can! Press the RIBBON button. Then the first encoder, you can change the mode to Mod Only. From there on you can assign it to every destination in the Mod Matrix. Or, like a shortcut: press and hold RIBBON en press filter. Then a slot gets automatically made in the Mod Matrix and you can adjust to your needs.
Seriously... I honestly thought I shouldn't buy another pricey keyboard... but this synth is getting cheaper with every feature I discovere on it. By now I can't believe how much synth I've bought for +/- €1700,-
This is something that you need to spend time with along with any instruments….it’s when you have those Ah-ha moments I’m sure u will have 100s of em I own the desktop. Haven’t even scratched the surface.
I actually bought a Hydrasynth Deluxe a few days ago again (it was on discount and I could not resist). I also own a Novation Summit. The Hydrasynth can sound great, however you need to work harder to get the sound you like. You can compare the Hydrasynth with those so-called healthy rice-wafels. The Summit is a rice-wafel covered in Caramel. It tastes delicious from the start, but it will always taste like caramel. The Hydrasynth is a blank rise-wafel but it comes with a lot additional flavours that you have to apply yourself. In other words you can make the Hydrasynth as tasty (or disgusting) as you want. Having said so, that Hydrasynth still misses some essential features to my opinion: - No support for sostenuto - No dotted timings in the arp - No true bi-trimbality on the Deluxe
Hello mate - interesting comment - downsized my studio and my Summit is my only hardware synth - torn between saving for a deluxe to complement it, or go for the Keyboard single version second hand and maybe a prophet Rev2 second hand. In fairness the dual arpeggios on the deluxe is really what’s appealing to me! Wonder if you think the deluxe is worth the extra over a single bed, if you could now choose again in retrospect?
After having both the Hydrasynth and the Summit now for some time (I returned the Hydrasynth earlier, but I realized that was big mistake so I bought it again), I must say I prefer the Hydrasynth now. Yes, the Summit provides instant gratification but the Hydrasynth is much more flexible. It takes some time to get the sound you want, but once you do you do not want one other synth again.
The key is to remember that randomised sounds can just be a starting point, it's a synth, so you can sculpt the sound into something more interesting, but you'll be starting from somewhere very different than your basic 'init' sound!
And you can always first press and hold SHIFT and then RANDOM. That way it chooses between two existing patches and usually gives me very nice results.
The deluxe probably has the noisiest key-action, I've ever heard on a synth. On top, couple of keys are real sticky, when coming up from an Aftertouch position. Not a key bed I would wanna play piano sounds on. And there I thought this would be "the one and only" for me. Another thing, that surprised me, was how little headroom it has, leading to some nasty clipping. Not going to listen to rave reviews on RUclips for a while!
Only if you don't know what you are doing. But there's a great feature shift and random and I can control the ratio of random. In every part of the synth individually ! It makes wonderful sounds and the possibilities are endless truly ! It's an amazing experience and everything ! Every time I play it a trip out and scream with joy on the sounds and music I can make with this thing, it's amazing!
Yeah I was waiting to hear music or some proper playing to show off this synth's capabilities, but there's none of that in this video. No interesting patch creation/playing at all.
It's only going to sound bad if they don't know what they are doing and it can sound bad even the random find good sounds bedside any one can destroy the sound pretty easily but it's also pretty easy to make out sounds great ! It's all good for myself and I'm happy with it and I am happy either way you go, it's not going to effect my situation.
Great video, still watching. A nice tip along with the wavescan is that the wavescan is 24bit interpolation between each step giving thousands of waveforms inbetween each of the main 8 waveform steps. But a single knob can’t scan through that fine of a resolution without making your arm twist around till it falls off. So a fun way to get that smooth wavescan is to set a macro to wavescan but only give it a value of day 32 , then the full throw of the macro is scanning super smoothly through just a smaller section of your wavescan. Just lots of hidden depth :) . Really liking the format of this show. So many camera views!
Now THAT is one hell of a tip Ken!
just got the Hydra Explorer, Its a monster. Mutants are dope. Its capable of making any sound you want 70s and 80s classics to futuristic stuff
I’ve never used anything with as brilliant an interface for building complex patches as Hydrasynth.
It’s a very digital sounding synth but it blends so well with DCO analogs like my Deepmind 12. My favorite thing in the synth world is building layered patches between the two - though I feel like I’m taking a big step backwards when programming DM, relative to the ease and fluidity of sound design on Hydrasynth.
Nice breakdown, thanks. One correction....LFO's have 64 steps, not 8. The 3-Ler filter is based on the awesome Ian Fritz Threeler filter.
64 steps!!!?? I stand corrected and stunned :) I don't think I've ever tried to turn that encoder past 8!!!
the guy demonstrating is so excited, and im so excited watching this, i can absolutely see how this is all justified. Hydrasynth is the "next-gen" synth and IMO is a sleeper among the solely-analogue community
I was already close to pulling the trigger on this. after seeing this Deep Dive, It's a done deal. Especially after seeing &hearing you guys begin crankin on that joint. One of the best demonstrations of a synth I've seen. Thanks !
Probably one of the deepest and best overviews I’ve seen on the Hydra! Been hovering over getting one and you’ve tipped me over the edge! Ordered!
got my desktop last week. had a few quick sessions to fiddle with presets and was very happy. the other evening i had nearly 2 hours to dig and and explore, and had something like a 4 voice multitimbral patch going with the amazing modulation possibilities available. absolutely love this synth, and i haven't even considered in depth about how i'll work it into my big ol euro setup. the fact that midi is available in the mod matrix opens up so many possibilities for sequencing with a simple keystep. its a beautifully designed synth and offers immediate gratification as well as untold gems with deeper exploration waiting for you.
*Great walkthrough!* The ARP Phrase demo is great, actually the phrase can be quantized by the Voice Scale as well, so you can easily vary it or match it to the piece you're working on.
In fact you can now customize the panel button UP and LO part colors to your liking when it's in MULTI mode on the Deluxe.
Fantastic tips, thank you for sharing!
Great demo of features and tips. The poly aftertouch is a giant feature that they don’t showcase too much as I’m not sure he’s much of a player? Mine arrives next week 🎉🤘
"Estimated delivery: 1st - 3rd March" ... it's getting closer! Good to have another video to watch while I wait. And there was some non-obvious stuff in here that I hadn't seen before.
I'm not sure when they say that, or if you're in the USA, but these are available. I just bought one at Sweetwater.
@@ThePurpleSnork ah, I'm in the UK. I suspect mine is stuck in a container port somewhere.
@ASM please make the typewriting through keys possible. My 2nd macro knob already feels kinda f***ed.
I have the explorer for three days now and sat down with it today, without manual reading, and got lost in it within minutes. after a short while I thought this thing is like no other synth and it feels like my modular system. Then stumbled upon this vid and you guys just proofed my thought. And gave me so much to dig deeper, wonderful presentation! And so far the best video ever for me, I love the love for the instrument in here, and when you guys try to resist of getting carried away. Well done! :)
Thank you! Definitely in agreement that these are synth that you can really get lost exploring - lost in the _good_ way, that is. They have such a unique and clear interface, you can just get absorbed in sound design ☺
How goes it with the hydrasynth explorer !? Do you still have it and use it !?
Hello Gear4Music. I'm really digging this video. I sse that they have their drum machine connected to the Hydra. Can you tell me what typeconnections they have connected? I'd like to hook up my Elektron MK 2 to my Hydra Deluxe. Thanks in advance !
Great video, guys! The LFO's now have 64 steps ;)
The step LFO function and being able to have each oscillator on it’s own LFO gets you very close to a Moog Subharmonicon in a way. Being able to use polyrhythms with pitches to create ever evolving chords or melodies. I have always wanted a Subharmonicon but never pulled the trigger. This seems even better! I’m beyond excited to get my Deluxe in next week!
this is so thorough & so clear & so perfectly well-paced. thanks so much for this, gents!!
I did watch the vid to the end and did really enjoy it, but i can't believe that in a demo of nearly an hour there's not one actual playable synth sound.
I like a modulation noodlefest and/or sequencer exploration expedition as much as the next, but a showcase of the lead, bass, pad, stringy sound capabilities would be useful too. ;)
Don't fear, those demos exist elsewhere! It's a great synth capable of deep and complex stuff and classic tones too.
Great video! Some pretty nifty tips in here, Cheers. 🤘
Damn that guy with Mylar Melodies is handsome & sure knows his stuff.
Instant pump, epic!
You guys are🤔
Thanks for this great video. Finally got time to watch the whole hour. I just got this synth for my birthday and it's a bit overwhelming the capability they packed into it.
Thanks Dan - make sure you install the 2.0 update as there is some great stuff in there. We just shot a video exploring it which will be out soon, perhaps that may help. Honestly the Hydrasynth is one of the most rewarding synths so stick with it, and the manual is fantastic also!
Same here, and I'm also overwhelmed at the features. But in a good way.
Question about the keybed - on the Korg Keystage, which uses the ASM keybed (at least the technology, if not the exact keybed), there is a warning that you can wear out something if you push too hard on the poly aftertouch. What's up with that? Is there a similar warning in the Hyrdasynth maunual?
The synth truly looks and sounds incredible.. but digital has been awesome for a long time. Virus synths were unashamedly digital and still sound awesome. D50? Then of course you've got things like serum which are clearly digital and sound very good when you want them to, but also can actually draw your own wave tables.
The hydra is first synth on my shopping list for years. Everything else in hardware pales in comparison really now.
I just pray it properly syncs up, which my Evolver, Blofeld, and virus all struggle with at times.
It's always funny when the same people bash digital synths but then gush over the DX7.
Just picked the desktop up a few weeks ago. Love it to death! Trying to get more rhythm-type sounds out of it and very fun to explore!
Use the init and random. You will find shimmering and thumping drive for rhythm.
Hot Darn.....stunning tones and endless experimenting right in front of you.....on my shopping list for sure...thx
This was helpful and fun. Thanks.
So I just figured out that I have enough gear to sell to upgrade to this keyboard. This is my dream synth. Ever synth the 49 key came out, but especially since the Deluxe came out!
@ 35 minutes is exactly what I’ll be doing with my Deluxe when it arrives. 😎
Some tips which work the same for us Explorer ( 8 "voice" at a reasonable price ) owners, but this video really is about selling the deluxe.
Thanks for a wonderful walk through!!!
Thank you! 👍
"A good knob has got... er... heft." - Mylar Melodies 🤣
I just ordered the 49 key this morning. I got a good price on a mint used one. If I like it as much as I think I will, I'll probably upgrade eventually. I have some other synths that I want to get first.
How's it going with that? I want one, but can't decide between the regular and the deluxe. Thanks!
How are the effects I'm thinking about getting some effects pedals but if the onboard effects are top-notch I won't
It's personal preference of course, but if you ask us, we think you'll be very impressed with the on-board FX - they sound fantastic.
I wish we could get a granular added to this board. Just a wish.
Never knew Freddie Flintof was a synth nerd ! Damn you G4M, this is so expensive......can I do a trade-in ?
Just got one. The good old Waldorf Q is quite similar in signal path lot of ways (osc, filt pan and routing and loads of mod sources). I feel this some long lost decedent to a degree
The Hydrasynth definitely feels like a hybrid of past and future, agreed - although it's novel to have the 'mutants'. Note similar 'fast access' button structure to the Ensoniq ESQ-1, where you have those buttons to hop around the menu parameters. The Hydrasynth definitely pays homage to that!
nice ASM
I wonder how this compares to a Waldorf Blofeld or other Waldorf gear. Anyone know? Does this measure up or fall behind?
I’ve owned a Q, but regret selling, I now have a quantum and string synth plus a hydra 8 voice, I can’t recommend this synth enough, it’s different to the Waldorf Q and Quantum however it’s got its own character and has been designed so very well, it’s not even expensive fir what you get. My only regret is that I haven’t got the deluxe. However I may do in future. The Hydrasynth is probably one of the best synths you could possibly get at the moment considering it’s price too. Endless possibilities, especially with the new OS no 2 update.
"exploratory polysimps" thank you RUclips CCs
anyone who thinks "digital" is some kinda lesser concept,should take a look at KORG's "digital digital digital one". DIGITAL is awsome,if one can imagine it.its all good!
The totally annoying filter knob is the exact same size as all the others instead of it being bigger the patch selector knob is. Many programs lost that way . I noticed the hydra in this demo fell behind tempo is this one not updated yet? 👽
How do you choose the 2 sound in a multi? 1 and 2 With balanceknob? and which knobs,parameters?
Hey Jens, I hope you've figured it out by now. If not, you have to press the LOWER or UPPER button and then the BROWSE button (it's on the left side of the big knob with which you change patches). Then you can change the patch for only that layer with that big knob.
Yes it took a week, therafter i figurered it out
With Help of youtube videos etc
Ribbon only just pitchbend,and theremin? no use for filter ,cutoff etc?
@@jensingvordsen Sure, you can! Press the RIBBON button. Then the first encoder, you can change the mode to Mod Only. From there on you can assign it to every destination in the Mod Matrix. Or, like a shortcut: press and hold RIBBON en press filter. Then a slot gets automatically made in the Mod Matrix and you can adjust to your needs.
I wonder given the digital nature, can a decent GPU or indeed and good CPU replicate these?.
Seriously... I honestly thought I shouldn't buy another pricey keyboard... but this synth is getting cheaper with every feature I discovere on it. By now I can't believe how much synth I've bought for +/- €1700,-
This is something that you need to spend time with along with any instruments….it’s when you have those Ah-ha moments I’m sure u will have 100s of em I own the desktop. Haven’t even scratched the surface.
Nice that the LFOs have 64 steps now.
19:22 “Randomize the mutants”…hmmm, his speaking software glitched for a moment.
someone forgot to lock the door to the candystore ,- 😂
34:22 Head start bobbing 😎
I actually bought a Hydrasynth Deluxe a few days ago again (it was on discount and I could not resist). I also own a Novation Summit. The Hydrasynth can sound great, however you need to work harder to get the sound you like.
You can compare the Hydrasynth with those so-called healthy rice-wafels. The Summit is a rice-wafel covered in Caramel. It tastes delicious from the start, but it will always taste like caramel. The Hydrasynth is a blank rise-wafel but it comes with a lot additional flavours that you have to apply yourself. In other words you can make the Hydrasynth as tasty (or disgusting) as you want.
Having said so, that Hydrasynth still misses some essential features to my opinion:
- No support for sostenuto
- No dotted timings in the arp
- No true bi-trimbality on the Deluxe
Hello mate - interesting comment - downsized my studio and my Summit is my only hardware synth - torn between saving for a deluxe to complement it, or go for the Keyboard single version second hand and maybe a prophet Rev2 second hand. In fairness the dual arpeggios on the deluxe is really what’s appealing to me! Wonder if you think the deluxe is worth the extra over a single bed, if you could now choose again in retrospect?
After having both the Hydrasynth and the Summit now for some time (I returned the Hydrasynth earlier, but I realized that was big mistake so I bought it again), I must say I prefer the Hydrasynth now. Yes, the Summit provides instant gratification but the Hydrasynth is much more flexible. It takes some time to get the sound you want, but once you do you do not want one other synth again.
Very user friendly having two headphone jacks. Don’t have to get adapter.
Это музыкальная клаустрофобия!))))))
Randomizer of presets is a cool feature but it doesn't work rly. Those sounds were fup
The key is to remember that randomised sounds can just be a starting point, it's a synth, so you can sculpt the sound into something more interesting, but you'll be starting from somewhere very different than your basic 'init' sound!
You can also randomise per parameter, instead of randomising a whole patch.
And you can always first press and hold SHIFT and then RANDOM. That way it chooses between two existing patches and usually gives me very nice results.
Basically, a CS80 that normal musicians can afford.
7:38 😂
The deluxe probably has the noisiest key-action, I've ever heard on a synth. On top, couple of keys are real sticky, when coming up from an Aftertouch position. Not a key bed I would wanna play piano sounds on. And there I thought this would be "the one and only" for me. Another thing, that surprised me, was how little headroom it has, leading to some nasty clipping. Not going to listen to rave reviews on RUclips for a while!
Looks like a groundbreaking synth, as Bob Moogs’ machines were.
Bizarre beardy t-shirty house plant thing going on here.
Cool..... a lot of crunchy aggressive digital unusable sounds.
Only if you don't know what you are doing. But there's a great feature shift and random and I can control the ratio of random. In every part of the synth individually !
It makes wonderful sounds and the possibilities are endless truly !
It's an amazing experience and everything ! Every time I play it a trip out and scream with joy on the sounds and music I can make with this thing, it's amazing!
This man can only produce loading and whistling.
Mostly unusable sounds.
I don’t think Hydrasynth was not made for this.
Yeah I was waiting to hear music or some proper playing to show off this synth's capabilities, but there's none of that in this video. No interesting patch creation/playing at all.
It's only going to sound bad if they don't know what they are doing and it can sound bad even the random find good sounds bedside any one can destroy the sound pretty easily but it's also pretty easy to make out sounds great !
It's all good for myself and I'm happy with it and I am happy either way you go, it's not going to effect my situation.
STOP TALKING PUT ON A WIG AND PLSY SAMPLES