To those who are surprised by the low quality and the old technology: this is a very, very , very old video and a company founded more than 60 years ago, no current stuff. The name of the company given in the first minute or so (Deutsche Titan GmbH) was only used until 2007 when the company was bought by thyssenkrupp and renamed to "ThyssenKrupp Titanium GmbH. Two years later (2009) the plant in Essen was taken over by the German company VDM Metals. It was closed in 2016 after some 60 years of operation. The old titanium plant in Essen was founded in the 1950s and from the looks the movie seems to be from the 80's or 90's, definitely not anywhere near current.
CRT TV:s back then had a resolution 4 times as high then any 144p, so the original show had way, way better quality orginal but was extremely compressed on the way to RUclips by whatever the reason, so much that you can hardly make anything out.
Wow! These are the shoulders we now stand on! This was very, very high tech in its day and the path to get where they did was a tough one with many barriers. Thanks for the video.
I work at a titanium plant in Nevada, USA in 2023. Pretty much the exact same process as described in this video. This plant has been around since the 1940’s, making magnesium, converted to titanium in the early 1950’s.
@@tbowers581 roll into a thinner and larger ring is possible, but usually the scrapped ti parts will be remelted, the solid scraps price around 3-6/lb in the usa
I'm bulletproof, nothing to lose. Fire away, fire away Ricochet, you take your aim. Fire away, fire away You shoot me down, but I won't fall. I am titanium
My company machines titanium for several OEMs. Our main customer is Boeing, Raytheon and Martin Marietta. We also make shotgun chokes and some artificial joints for the medical industry. Actually titanium isn't too bad to work with. What is a real bitch to machine is this alloy called Inconel 625. It makes titanium seem like cutting wood compared to this shit. I hate Inconel jobs. The feeds and speeds are at our maximum, and it's like controlled chaos. Otherwise the tools break, chip or wear down very fast. But the finished product is something else
For all the people complaining about that their are cheaper ways to get titan: from the looks and quality I'd say the video is from the 90s or even 80s, so don't be surprised to see something outdated.
Having worked in the Aircraft industry specifically of F-22 raptor, i have to say titanium is a pain the ass to work with when needing to be modified or altered!
lol too funny! Had more to say but gotta hurry and scroll the page before my wife sees your comment and then oh boy look out cause all that I'll hear the rest of the day is how you had some nerve blah blah blah
This process is extremely wasteful. More than 30 percent of the starting titanium is lost in the process tailings. More modern processes are much more efficient. One is the Armstrong process which produces very pure titanium powder by reducing titanium chloride with molten sodium in a special vessel. The resulting titanium is separated from the sodium chloride side-product by washing in water, and the resulting powder is dried and either sintered or electron-beam melted into the final solid product.
@@franchocou New methods using the thermite process combined with electromagnetic levitatating melting crucible inside a very high vacuum is widely used in some places but a much better process developed in the 1970s which can make titanium much cheaper was never allowed to be declassified even up to this day. It is much simpler and CHEAPER and reliable and dependable 1st stage process. And then the 2sd process of using a magnetic levitating smelting crucible inside a high vacuum is used until only pure titanium of 99.99% and allowed to cool. Then the 3rd process is when it is alloyed using the same method in the 2sd process but this time a combination of high vacuum and argon inert atmosphere is used, a high vacuum and the electromagnetic levitating smelting-reifning crucible is used to further refine it to a very high level of purity and then argon gas is pumped in at 1 atmosphere p.s.i and ultrasonic beans are used to make sure that the alloying ingredients will remain thoroughly mixed and completely dissolved as the frequency level (known as hertz or cycles) is reduced while maintaining the voltage and amperage levels. The ultrasonic beams pointed at the magnetically levitated molten mass of titanium is maintained until it has cooled and hardened inorder to make sure that all of the alloying ingredients will remain completely dissolved. But we make sure that 10% cerium is added as an alloy dissolver and 15% to 30% yttrium is added to stabilize the alloys so that they cannot be separated physically. This is important in welding operations. Probably other countries are also using the remelting and casting method in the open air or in an argon-filled chamber.
Di Kalimantan Tengah, orang dayak menyebut titanium adalah "sanaman mantikei", bahan untuk membuat parang/pedang mandau yang terkenal tajam dan mampu memotong paku tanpa kerusakan apapun pada matanya.
So, the palladium for the alloys is stored in barrels, without any obvious security precautions? This stuff is worth more than gold - so either they really trust their workers or the narrator failed to explain something.
Palladium was worth around $60-$80 per ounce when this was filmed. The titanium likely was worth much more than that...in the 1980's. In either case, workers were required to pass through metal detectors before and after entering the production floor.
Titanium made in Germany, the metal that could have won the war for Hitler, now made in Germany. Comes from Russia, Mastered in the US and passed on to Germany, this stuff is amazing. Give me a racing crank and rods made of titanium!
Amazing footage if one enjoys industrial R&D manufacturing science, Imagine what the US DOD contractors had to sacrifice and overcome in order too build highly advanced aeronautical planes and rockets back in the 50's-60's...We were very imaginative in the days of cold war espionage.
It’s true. But What this video don’t show you is the quality process that goes beforehand and during the manufacturing. That’s the information that can’t be divulge.
Travis Bickle ||100,000t Mechanical Press||. There's been designed a mechanical (not hydraulic) press machine, at least 100,000t. It's been designed by the elderly inventor all alone. The innovation uses the inventor's know-how, invention and great engineering experience in the field. Do you think they say:"Wow! I want that press machine at any cost!" ?! The cost is quite definite, by the way. Don’t you feel the irony of the moment? We’ve left the stone age, just now, for the age of the regular space flights! The 100,000t press machine is the hallmark of the new era....But they don't seem to burst into tears, in great excitement, and to start promoting the project. If you'd like or know-how to support the inventor and his project, please contact me.
I'm a ti mill, the raw material cost for a medical grade Ti64ELI alloy for knife is not much, if the knife is made out of Ti plate, price for a manufacturer to sell is 17-25 usd/lb or approximately 50usd/kg, since the weight is light for Ti, the knife company only need half of weight compares to steel. The high prices are mark ups from the knife companies by selling "niche" products
old outdated video. i work at a titanium plant. we make the sponge, all the way through triple melting titanium finished ingot. what you see in video is garbage ti compared to what we make.
This video is funny, i cant quite put my finger on what exactly it is about it, maybe the essence, maybe the commentary, maybe the wording chosen, maybe the mix of all of the above.
chronok All materials have a Rock well number as a standard unit for hardness 90 diamond is hardest 1 is chalk. Don't know where Ti is but I've encountered steels in the high 70s
if you don't know where Ti is how come you comment?? Jesus christ get a grip man... I've been milling and lathing titanium for years... it's nowhere hard to a proper hardened tool steel
ridiculously time consuming process curious if there is any other transition metals to refine to its purities that is as hard or complex? I think it takes like several months from start to finish
This is a really old video and loads of updated techniques have come about, but mostly none are publicized as titanium is one of the most defense related metal and so techniques considered to be kept secret. Even in the video you can hear him saying he luckily got the chance to shoot this.
Listening with regular speakers it doesn't sound that bad.....not every 70's science docu can be up to our high HD expectations, especially if we crank up our ear phones to saturation level ?
Seems wasteful, and people should make secondary foundries where to make molds of things they need instead of carving metal in lathes, or specialized presses to make shapes as close as possible to the final product, to waste as little as possible, and that waste could be melted and sold as cheap unpressed titanium, which could be molded too, why waste? we need to be efficient when making products, take full advantage of the finite elements we have
To those who are surprised by the low quality and the old technology: this is a very, very , very old video and a company founded more than 60 years ago, no current stuff. The name of the company given in the first minute or so (Deutsche Titan GmbH) was only used until 2007 when the company was bought by thyssenkrupp and renamed to "ThyssenKrupp Titanium GmbH. Two years later (2009) the plant in Essen was taken over by the German company VDM Metals. It was closed in 2016 after some 60 years of operation. The old titanium plant in Essen was founded in the 1950s and from the looks the movie seems to be from the 80's or 90's, definitely not anywhere near current.
I thought 144p stood for 144 potato, the more you know!
I help build the new plant in southern Alabama
Thanks for sharing company history. Deutsche Titan GmbH are pioneers in Ti ingot manufacturing.
Hallo Stefan
Weisst du eventuell ob es noch mehr solche Videos im Umlauf hat?
CRT TV:s back then had a resolution 4 times as high then any 144p, so the original show had way, way better quality orginal but was extremely compressed on the way to RUclips by whatever the reason, so much that you can hardly make anything out.
Wow! These are the shoulders we now stand on! This was very, very high tech in its day and the path to get where they did was a tough one with many barriers. Thanks for the video.
no it is just white privilege! havent you heard?
For those of you wondering, its made by Deutsche Titan GMBH in essen
I work at a titanium plant in Nevada, USA in 2023. Pretty much the exact same process as described in this video. This plant has been around since the 1940’s, making magnesium, converted to titanium in the early 1950’s.
Is it possible to reforge a titanium ring into something else?
@@tbowers581 roll into a thinner and larger ring is possible, but usually the scrapped ti parts will be remelted, the solid scraps price around 3-6/lb in the usa
timet?
@@tl1539 yes.
What department do you work in? I work in primary.
I'm bulletproof, nothing to lose. Fire away, fire away
Ricochet, you take your aim. Fire away, fire away
You shoot me down, but I won't fall. I am titanium
Québec in Canada is also one of the world’s most important producer of titanium.
we have at least 4 huge aluminium foundry here in saguenay, but ive never hear we were producing titanium in Québec?
i dont think Canada melts Ti, the major smelters are timet, vsmpo, ati, howmet and baoti
this is the plant when it used to be USSR the USA bought the titanium needed for the Blackbird
nope. made in USA. its where 3/4 of the sponge is made also. USA. USA. USA
I thought it was recorded at least 40years ago,which is rather valuable documentary of titanium process developing.
the XR-71 code name oxcart was the first spy plane made out of titanium
ps : they bought the titanium from the russians thanks 4 sharing : )
Yes haha.
My company machines titanium for several OEMs. Our main customer is Boeing, Raytheon and Martin Marietta. We also make shotgun chokes and some artificial joints for the medical industry. Actually titanium isn't too bad to work with. What is a real bitch to machine is this alloy called Inconel 625. It makes titanium seem like cutting wood compared to this shit. I hate Inconel jobs. The feeds and speeds are at our maximum, and it's like controlled chaos. Otherwise the tools break, chip or wear down very fast. But the finished product is something else
For all the people complaining about that their are cheaper ways to get titan: from the looks and quality I'd say the video is from the 90s or even 80s, so don't be surprised to see something outdated.
there*
I watched this video several times. and I think it was filmed on Earth.
I work in a titanium industry in Oregon... their process is very similar to ours.
Having worked in the Aircraft industry specifically of F-22 raptor, i have to say titanium is a pain the ass to work with when needing to be modified or altered!
My wife can make a cake harder than that! in fact the die in that press was leftover birthday cake.I ate all the frosting though..
lol too funny! Had more to say but gotta hurry and scroll the page before my wife sees your comment and then oh boy look out cause all that I'll hear the rest of the day is how you had some nerve blah blah blah
Made from Cakeium
Thanks, a new appreciation for Titanium.
This process is extremely wasteful. More than 30 percent of the starting titanium is lost in the process tailings. More modern processes are much more efficient. One is the Armstrong process which produces very pure titanium powder by reducing titanium chloride with molten sodium in a special vessel. The resulting titanium is separated from the sodium chloride side-product by washing in water, and the resulting powder is dried and either sintered or electron-beam melted into the final solid product.
Well, this video is from the 90s 😂
This company goes bust
@@franchocou New methods using the thermite process combined with electromagnetic levitatating melting crucible inside a very high vacuum is widely used in some places but a much better process developed in the 1970s which can make titanium much cheaper was never allowed to be declassified even up to this day. It is much simpler and CHEAPER and reliable and dependable 1st stage process.
And then the 2sd process of using a magnetic levitating smelting crucible inside a high vacuum is used until only pure titanium of 99.99% and allowed to cool.
Then the 3rd process is when it is alloyed using the same method in the 2sd process but this time a combination of high vacuum and argon inert atmosphere is used, a high vacuum and the electromagnetic levitating smelting-reifning crucible is used to further refine it to a very high level of purity and then argon gas is pumped in at 1 atmosphere p.s.i and ultrasonic beans are used to make sure that the alloying ingredients will remain thoroughly mixed and completely dissolved as the frequency level (known as hertz or cycles) is reduced while maintaining the voltage and amperage levels.
The ultrasonic beams pointed at the magnetically levitated molten mass of titanium is maintained until it has cooled and hardened inorder to make sure that all of the alloying ingredients will remain completely dissolved.
But we make sure that 10% cerium is added as an alloy dissolver and 15% to 30% yttrium is added to stabilize the alloys so that they cannot be separated physically. This is important in welding operations. Probably other countries are also using the remelting and casting method in the open air or in an argon-filled chamber.
Isn't that what turns your paperwhite the waste from this
@@K-Effect No, that's actually the starting material- titanium dioxide, also known as titanium white.
1:26 The supervisor carrying a helmet while the operator is wearing a cap. Quite funny picture...
It's a titanium cap.
He has the Titanium skull upgrade.
I want to know if this company ever dumped PFAS chemicals into waterways to get rid of the waste....DuPont and 3M dumped for decades, it's shocking
Kazakstan number one exporter Titanium!!
Great success!
We are also saler of Ores
Titanium and tantalum ore
All types of Ferro metal and powders
What is ur TI %❓
beautiful! We export titanium material and I often see things like this in factories. The hardest part is precision.
Space industry needs to be designed for bring on from planet to the earth. Likewise, gold and silver and titanium and others also gaasoline😢
1:54 he saying the magic spell..
Di Kalimantan Tengah, orang dayak menyebut titanium adalah "sanaman mantikei", bahan untuk membuat parang/pedang mandau yang terkenal tajam dan mampu memotong paku tanpa kerusakan apapun pada matanya.
Jonfrid Holnan Siae manstaab
So, the palladium for the alloys is stored in barrels, without any obvious security precautions? This stuff is worth more than gold - so either they really trust their workers or the narrator failed to explain something.
Palladium was worth around $60-$80 per ounce when this was filmed. The titanium likely was worth much more than that...in the 1980's. In either case, workers were required to pass through metal detectors before and after entering the production floor.
You shoot me down
but I wont fall
I am Titanium...
-SIA
Titanium made in Germany, the metal that could have won the war for Hitler, now made in Germany. Comes from Russia, Mastered in the US and passed on to Germany, this stuff is amazing. Give me a racing crank and rods made of titanium!
How would you like to pay?
Well, first I need to win the lottery....
Dream big bro. Turbo, block, heads, titanium braided fuel line...
ken cohagen mastered in the usa im sure it is fuck ziontist usa worse country in the world
Nukes Away your a fuckwit
nice informative video, but I can count the pixels on one hand
Ahhh, german steel. Bringing joy and happiness to the world since +VLFBERH+T .
Do you have a lower quality copy of this video? I was almost able to make out a few outlines.
Amazing footage if one enjoys industrial R&D manufacturing science,
Imagine what the US DOD contractors had to sacrifice and overcome in order too build highly advanced aeronautical planes and rockets back in the 50's-60's...We were very imaginative in the days of cold war espionage.
Using German & British scientists
I’m wondering who figured out all the processing that was required?
Anyone else see anything? The sound was ok but I feel like I missed a few pixels there..
30k amps for the arc furnace! Good golly miss molly.
That should lite your fire.
Video: potato
Sound: Potato
Titanium: German
At about 14sec it sounds like the start of the intro music to Buck Rogers in the 25th century.
Kazakhstan number one exporter of titanium
It’s funny how superior, advanced and dramatic everything is made out to be. Meanwhile ,in reality, this is just another day on how it’s made.
It’s true. But What this video don’t show you is the quality process that goes beforehand and during the manufacturing. That’s the information that can’t be divulge.
The forge next door to ours has these massive titanium rods. Must be worth a fortune. The place is called Wyman and Gordon.
Travis Bickle ||100,000t Mechanical Press||.
There's been designed a mechanical (not hydraulic) press machine, at least 100,000t. It's been designed by the elderly inventor all alone. The innovation uses the inventor's know-how, invention and great engineering experience in the field. Do you think they say:"Wow! I want that press machine at any cost!" ?! The cost is quite definite, by the way. Don’t you feel the irony of the moment? We’ve left the stone age, just now, for the age of the regular space flights! The 100,000t press machine is the hallmark of the new era....But they don't seem to burst into tears, in great excitement, and to start promoting the project.
If you'd like or know-how to support the inventor and his project, please contact me.
Great video. Who discovered the smelting process of titanium?
Kroll process uses molten magnesium. Armstrong process uses molten sodium.
the Americans producing the black-bird is a cool story ☺️
Their furnace goes to 11!
1:00 otherwise, in the event of a fire
The white hot glow of a laden crucible is "a fire".
How long before we can buy a cheap set of Titanium kitchen knives ?
I'm a ti mill, the raw material cost for a medical grade Ti64ELI alloy for knife is not much, if the knife is made out of Ti plate, price for a manufacturer to sell is 17-25 usd/lb or approximately 50usd/kg, since the weight is light for Ti, the knife company only need half of weight compares to steel. The high prices are mark ups from the knife companies by selling "niche" products
Awesome video thanks for sharing 👍
Don't you know there was life before 1080p? Fuck, back in the day you had to rewind a video tape before you took it back.
You didn't have to, but you would pay a small fine if you did not rewind the tape. 😀
I could make titanium out of some beach sand and my kitchen oven.
............. don't forget the 'magic' ingredient ???? ..........P155
No wonder it's pricey
nobody else today even manages this process :)
POTATO VISION!
can you pliz upload
Titanium production in Germany par 2 ??? pliiiiz
At 144p they sure aren't showing us much.
Thats cool thanks for the post keep up the good work.
bud morse Maybe it is just his hobby.
I would like to get in the industry
I have titanium in my left tibia :)
old outdated video. i work at a titanium plant. we make the sponge, all the way through triple melting titanium finished ingot. what you see in video is garbage ti compared to what we make.
This video is funny, i cant quite put my finger on what exactly it is about it, maybe the essence, maybe the commentary, maybe the wording chosen, maybe the mix of all of the above.
Maybe because it's 40 years old.
We Germans are the best🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
Black and German not match. Lol.
North Korea has Titanium too.
I have Titanium watch
☠BLACK BARON☠0:27
2:05 .. bullshit.. Titanium can never be hard as the best steel... it can be as strong (tough) but not hard
chronok All materials have a Rock well number as a standard unit for hardness 90 diamond is hardest 1 is chalk. Don't know where Ti is but I've encountered steels in the high 70s
if you don't know where Ti is how come you comment?? Jesus christ get a grip man... I've been milling and lathing titanium for years... it's nowhere hard to a proper hardened tool steel
Yes this very strong metal
@@sr9587 Weight for weight its much stronger than steel, but the ultimate hardness and strength of steel alloys is much higher.
ridiculously time consuming process curious if there is any other transition metals to refine to its purities that is as hard or complex? I think it takes like several months from start to finish
This is a really old video and loads of updated techniques have come about, but mostly none are publicized as titanium is one of the most defense related metal and so techniques considered to be kept secret.
Even in the video you can hear him saying he luckily got the chance to shoot this.
Never thought it was so complex. Wow.
which pixel is the titanium?
Their smithing levels must be past 99.
TITtanium, fucking hell, it is pronounced TIEtanium....
Moly d um? It's Mo lib de num. lol
W0W I found a video on tube that the video and the sound both are fucked up,digin't haft to look very hard eather !
Is there a version with a better resolution? Or in German? Thanks :)
the recordings are 30 years old.
No titanium PRODUCED here.
why they sweep everything ?
No wonder it's expensive
5:07 always these Germans
lmao
ZOMGROFL
A 144p unwatchable repost of another documentary.
Meanwhile in africa
i mine titanium all day on wotlk its prety good
i can make even titansteel xD
no u can't
can i inject titanium in my veins ? & what kind of high you get ? how can I get high with titanium ? I am a junkie
WOOW !
kurt rosenwinkel's dad worked at this factory?
Its been only couple centuries when we have passed the 144p quality
any video showing the new tech updated?
Masha'Allah ভাই জান
144p ??? absolutely pathetic
You should ask for your money back.
sixstringedthing lol
0.1 cents per ad
what ad? i only Whitelist some channels from adblocker.
Haven't you noticed? RUclips is cutting cost and down scaling resolution on older videos.
totally over saturated sound. Really annoying as so simple to deal with.
Listening with regular speakers it doesn't sound that bad.....not every 70's science docu can be up to our high HD expectations, especially if we crank up our ear phones to saturation level ?
No its from Russia
W.O.W.
HOLY SHIT. Your channel is the most underrated channel on youtube sir.
Holy fuck man, I thought titanium was a song.
144p? :((
Deutschland🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
It is not fun making this stuff in the heat here in Southern NV.
omg
Seems wasteful, and people should make secondary foundries where to make molds of things they need instead of carving metal in lathes, or specialized presses to make shapes as close as possible to the final product, to waste as little as possible, and that waste could be melted and sold as cheap unpressed titanium, which could be molded too, why waste? we need to be efficient when making products, take full advantage of the finite elements we have
144p in 2014? WHY????
#
144p
THE AUDIO IS TOO LOUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
144p holy grill
gh
96p rulez
its not look like submarine its more like gas chamber
. dont be be shy
Lame!