Why Star Trek Transporters Are Sci-Fi’s Most Impressive Technology! (Because Science w/ Kyle Hill)

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    One of Star Trek’s signature technologies is the transporter, but if you look deeper into how they would actually work, they are the greatest piece of sci-fi technology. Kyle beams down some science on this week’s Because Science!
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Комментарии • 1,8 тыс.

  • @nemeanlyan7918
    @nemeanlyan7918 8 лет назад +522

    Not gonna lie, I'm only subbed for this guy. He could- and should, in my opinion- have his own series.

  • @RampantFirefly
    @RampantFirefly 6 лет назад +8

    I remember one episode where they're explaining transporter technology as a 'cure' for limited resources. Because the technology creates matter from matter, they just transport a load of unwanted stuff such as waste, and tell the transporter to rearrange the atoms into something useful, such as food. Basically making anything possible, because the end result is always atomically identical to the real thing.

  • @lucasm.3864
    @lucasm.3864 8 лет назад +216

    "Beam me up, Scotty"
    "Do you realize how much energy and time that would take?! Why don't we just send a shuttle?"

    • @lasarith2
      @lasarith2 8 лет назад +3

      Average 60KG man ~ 5.3925 x10^ 18 power. (5,392,500,000,000,000,000 joules)

    • @JulioLeonFandinho
      @JulioLeonFandinho 8 лет назад +37

      'We can't send a shuttle, sir, according to Gene our budget is limited, transporter is cheaper'

    • @archentity
      @archentity 8 лет назад +4

      lmao!

    • @DocWolph
      @DocWolph 8 лет назад +8

      "But there have been significant advancements IN technology AND budget.We're sending a shuttle."

    • @travissmith2848
      @travissmith2848 7 лет назад +10

      Yep. Transporter was a cheap workaround for not having the budget to land the Enterprise nor having the budget until later to have a smaller craft you could afford to land. Heisenberg Compensators came later (much as moving the warp nacelles more inline with the center of mass) due to "That's great and all, but you know..." comments.

  • @lordofpolls
    @lordofpolls 8 лет назад +65

    I loved that last section where the music cut out and it went all philosophical. That was the most deep thing I've watched on RUclips in a long time. Got goosebumps thinking about it.

  • @chestersnap
    @chestersnap 8 лет назад +384

    "The stack of flashdrives would extend well beyond me"
    I would like to nominate that statement for understatement of the year.

    • @Sentauri
      @Sentauri 8 лет назад +12

      the century more like it

    • @smoq20
      @smoq20 8 лет назад +20

      I'm willing to risk "of all time" on that one...

  • @Ragitsu
    @Ragitsu 6 лет назад +61

    Transportation by disintegration and reintegration = NO.
    Transportation by folding space/opening portals = Yes.

    • @aelumensphotography7166
      @aelumensphotography7166 6 лет назад +3

      Yeahh, more likely

    • @allenhelmer8418
      @allenhelmer8418 6 лет назад

      Except that Einstein was an idiot to believe that the stuff he thought of means that space actually bends, therefore, no folding space or opening portals. So, what now?

    • @creditsunknown7974
      @creditsunknown7974 5 лет назад +1

      Allen Helmer
      Ludwig flamm: Allowed me to introduce myself

    • @LORDRA1DEN
      @LORDRA1DEN 5 лет назад +1

      Folding space isn't transporting.

    • @Einomar
      @Einomar 5 лет назад +1

      @@allenhelmer8418 Sure...

  • @marwan9835
    @marwan9835 8 лет назад +438

    Why is this version of Thor so smart?

    • @twichnitr0
      @twichnitr0 8 лет назад +16

      Well Hulk is smarter too in the next movie.. So I guess it's to make sure Thor always has an edge?

    • @raul88.88
      @raul88.88 8 лет назад +7

      lol...he really looks like thor

    • @jesusper4994
      @jesusper4994 8 лет назад +4

      +TwitchNitr0 Hulk is already a super genius he just doesn't think when in rage

    • @demogorghon
      @demogorghon 8 лет назад +33

      I'd say he is so smart... because science :P

    • @dumpeeplarfunny
      @dumpeeplarfunny 8 лет назад +5

      You win the internet today.

  • @zelamorre1126
    @zelamorre1126 7 лет назад +7

    This episode made me realize that transporters could effectively be used as mind reading devices. If they're transmitting your data, it would have access to your memories in your brain. So it would be a simply step (relatively speaking) to read the information out of a person's brain.

  • @kodyjayvin
    @kodyjayvin 8 лет назад +68

    Actually, there was an episode of Next Generation that they found a transporter "clone". It occurred when Riker was transported up from a planet years in the past but because of the way the atmosphere was, the beam both passed through to the ship and was reflected back to the surface. Thus two different Rikers were made in different places with different lives and experiences. One went on to become the second in command on the enterprise, and the other had to scrape out a living on a barren world all alone for years, without anyone even knowing he existed.

    • @ionfalcom1
      @ionfalcom1 8 лет назад +22

      and then in DS9 that other riker caused some shit. it was a whole thing.

    • @brianmccann666
      @brianmccann666 8 лет назад +3

      One of best episodes explaining transporters too

    • @LeoStaley
      @LeoStaley 8 лет назад

      +ionfalcom1 I didn't know this. I'm gonna go look this up now.

    • @SuperNaurva
      @SuperNaurva 8 лет назад +1

      That's a pretty good excuse for the second Riker never being heard of

    • @magicalfungi3206
      @magicalfungi3206 8 лет назад +3

      yeah, great episode. The transport beam was refracted like a prism and reflected a copy of the beam back to the planet, making 2 rikers.

  • @timcarter1164
    @timcarter1164 7 лет назад +2

    I've always figured that if the transporter has all of the information that makes up you stored in it...
    When you transport back, even if you've been killed, they should be able to "reboot" you with the stored information by transporting your no longer living body back and reconstructing it in it's previous living form.

  • @mystuff8602
    @mystuff8602 8 лет назад +36

    my favorite star trek joke: Crewman to Scotty "how does a heiseberg compensator work?", Scotty "I not sure." badum-tss!

    • @stimproid
      @stimproid 8 лет назад +7

      Number one, you've got the bridge. I have to make a number two.

    • @Rob-mr2pt
      @Rob-mr2pt 8 лет назад +2

      I dont get it

    • @mystuff8602
      @mystuff8602 8 лет назад +7

      Rob oh man, I hate explaining a joke, but here we go: in star trek, a heisenberg compensator is a device that compensates for the effect of the heisenberg uncertainty principle, that states, that you can either exactly know where a particle is or how fast it is moving but not both (if one is certain, the other is uncertain). So saying that you are not certain how it works, is kind of a play on words. get it?

  • @greenbat731
    @greenbat731 8 лет назад +14

    When the music cut out why did it feel so tense and important? Jesus that felt really fuckin' intense for some reason XD

    • @swankelly
      @swankelly 6 лет назад

      Greenbat Sigma I'm sure you were high.

  • @Nerdist
    @Nerdist  8 лет назад +111

    Hint for next week: One of the most requested episodes about an apathetic superhero.

  • @erikcheski8246
    @erikcheski8246 8 лет назад +4

    Kyle, it's incredible when you do an episode that really resonates with you. Your excitement for what a transporter IS and represents (from 4:20 on) was palpable and wonderful to watch. That's the excitement that I love about scientists. The excitement went above and beyond the silliness of you and Dan (though I do love Elon Musks Bats) and elevated to the plane of Dr Tyson. Incredible work, sir. I look forward to more of this in the future.

  • @FelipeVellosoHollanda
    @FelipeVellosoHollanda 8 лет назад +10

    Not a fan of Star Trekk, but this was the best episode of Because Science. Congrats..

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  8 лет назад +2

      Thanks Felipe! -- KH

  • @sulanis8444
    @sulanis8444 4 года назад +2

    The first Gigabyte hard drive was the size of a fridge and weighed a Tonne. Now commercially i can get a 512GB of space in the size of the end of pinky finger haha.
    That's what i love about science, it's always evolving and pushing the boundaries of what we thought possible a moment earlier. great video.

  • @wrightismatt
    @wrightismatt 8 лет назад +6

    Awesome video again Kyle, never fails to make my day. Why? Because science!

  • @gunsmoke5580
    @gunsmoke5580 8 лет назад

    That speech in the middle... Brought a tear to my eye. Thank you sir

  • @TheHutchy01
    @TheHutchy01 8 лет назад +52

    Just because you are Captain Kirk's father doesn't mean you can make "Make it So" jokes

    • @erikw.s.5209
      @erikw.s.5209 8 лет назад +23

      This might be the best "Kyle looks like Chris Hemsworth" joke yet.

  • @venom7322
    @venom7322 8 лет назад +2

    Kyle got real deep their for a second. hit me right in the feels...

  • @JoaoPessoa86
    @JoaoPessoa86 8 лет назад +52

    Donna Noble has been saved

    • @hawk222
      @hawk222 8 лет назад +18

      Who turned out the lights?

    • @Benny_Blue
      @Benny_Blue 8 лет назад +2

      Could you give me a little Spock, for once?

  • @Gew219
    @Gew219 6 лет назад +1

    This episode has surprisingly powerful message about immense value of each human life.

  • @snbforever
    @snbforever 6 лет назад +10

    I understand why Dr. McCoy hates transporters so much: I SURE don't want my atoms ripped apart and then MAYBE reassembled in the right order.
    PLUS, I would also wonder "am I still me?".
    If they can just rip a hole in spacetime, then yes.
    Because me! 😁

    • @Casedilla73
      @Casedilla73 3 года назад

      Think about it this way: if people in the 1600s were exposed to the idea of flying in a giant metal plane hundreds of feet in the air, they would be horrified and never agree. But because so many people do it all the time today, we are now desensitized to it and aren’t as scared. Granted, there are some people who are still scared, but they’re not the majority. I think that if this actually existed, over time, people would desensitize to it as more and more people did it without consequence and it became a normal thing. There would also probably be some sort of safety measures to make it more safe, as humans do.

  • @carlobuzzatti3452
    @carlobuzzatti3452 8 лет назад

    This was probably BS's best video yet! I love the way they stop the music in the middle of the video so that you can really focus on Kyle's profound speech.

  • @cupcakebro
    @cupcakebro 8 лет назад +4

    "That part of you who loves swimming... That part of you that regrets not making enough time for your Familly..."
    O.O Am I on that flash Drive by any chance...?

  • @davidmonsegur5644
    @davidmonsegur5644 8 лет назад

    man that moment when you started talking about the information on the flash drive, you have me the feels man thank you kyle

  • @TotallyHuman
    @TotallyHuman 7 лет назад +7

    4:25-5:17 the feels are real

  • @CrippledMerc
    @CrippledMerc 7 лет назад

    That monologue about what a human really is made of nearly brought me to tears. That or some onion cutting ninjas have invaded my room. Either way, it was a damn beautiful speech.

  • @Jemini4228
    @Jemini4228 8 лет назад +17

    Anyone remember Tuvix from Voyager? That was a hell of a moral dilemma!

    • @davydiver
      @davydiver 5 лет назад

      Not really, I think it would be a clause and a duty to recover you or anyone else from any accidents caused by the transporter.

    • @davydiver
      @davydiver 5 лет назад

      @Lost Aquarian a third option of saving Neelix, Tuvok and Tuvix would have been the better fix. If they can make anything with the replicator, surely they could have transfered Tuvix into another "ugly bag of water". 😉

    • @davydiver
      @davydiver 5 лет назад

      @Lost Aquarian use Borg Tech then...

  • @chriside9363
    @chriside9363 7 лет назад

    love how the music in the background stoped at 4:26 and then it got real and kinda serious

  • @diegomatias4709
    @diegomatias4709 8 лет назад +8

    4:27-5:18 deep Kyle best Kyle

  • @Kamo2x
    @Kamo2x 8 лет назад

    I also never noticed the Riker sitting thing, I can now never unsee this.

  • @ricardoalves9605
    @ricardoalves9605 8 лет назад +4

    when the music stoped and was only his voice
    he sounded so deep

  • @mystuff9999
    @mystuff9999 3 года назад

    His grin when he said „we made it so“, is the cutest. No homo.

  • @augustoleme
    @augustoleme 8 лет назад +72

    AND THAT WOULD NOT EVEN TELEPORT OUR CLOTHES

  • @bradthegiant
    @bradthegiant 7 лет назад

    the part when the music stops, and he gets real, is pretty cool. humbling actually.

  • @feldinho
    @feldinho 8 лет назад +6

    You went full Carl Sagan, man! Everybody knows you should go full Carl Sagan as often as possible!!

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  8 лет назад +3

      I'd be very lucky if I could capture even a moment of his wit and lucidity. -- KH

  • @pallyjaius
    @pallyjaius 8 лет назад +1

    4:27 When the music stops to make the point hit home, good editing

  • @brandonmarin5003
    @brandonmarin5003 8 лет назад +16

    this guy is so good at writing backwards!

    • @arthurhartel7467
      @arthurhartel7467 8 лет назад

      Ikr

    • @NickyTannock
      @NickyTannock 8 лет назад +12

      Unless he's writing forwards, and they flipped the recording?!

    • @LuziferQQQ
      @LuziferQQQ 8 лет назад +11

      he is writing normal... the video is just flipped

    • @LuziferQQQ
      @LuziferQQQ 8 лет назад +3

      +Rolling Guy #1 of course not, but kyle answered this question like a thousand times

    • @Nemesis_T-Type
      @Nemesis_T-Type 7 лет назад +1

      Rolling Guy #1 In a video you can see the Apple Logo flipped, that means he just flips the image bro

  • @timothyoshaughnessy6574
    @timothyoshaughnessy6574 6 лет назад

    the end monologue is AMAZING.

  • @RomrotMechanikos
    @RomrotMechanikos 8 лет назад +157

    I would never use a transporter. Destroy me and create a copy of me to take my place? No thank you. Stargates and portals are the way to go.

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  8 лет назад +34

      But the copy IS you. What else would it be? -- KH

    • @firecage7925
      @firecage7925 8 лет назад +26

      Well, it would be a copy if you. Yes, an exact copy with all your fears, memories, thought patterns, everything. Yet still a copy, whereas the original you would be dead. Same way that, through errors, this type of teleportation might make two copies of you. Does that mean both of them are you, or only one of them? What if the teleporter malfunctions, makes a copy of you at the destination, but doesn't deconstruct the you which was meant to be transported? Who is you, the copy or the 'original'.

    • @RomrotMechanikos
      @RomrotMechanikos 8 лет назад +5

      ***** It won't copy your conscience.

    • @firecage7925
      @firecage7925 8 лет назад +14

      And how do you know that Romrot? Our consciousness is merely due to evolution. Due to the chemical processes in our brain, how our brains evolved over time, down to its atomic structures.
      If you replicate a person perfectly, like what a teleporter like this could theoretically do, and copy their brain aswell down to the smallest level? Then yes, that copy will have a consciousness, and you wouldnt be able to tell it apart from the original. It would even have the same gaps in memory which the original had.

    • @RomrotMechanikos
      @RomrotMechanikos 8 лет назад +3

      Firecage If we created a clone of you, would you be aware of your body and that clone's body?

  • @corlee6113
    @corlee6113 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks for including that part about how the second in command sits down. That gave me a good laugh. The thing I like about your videos is that there is a human aspect to it. The visualizations, relatable opinions, and the bonus features at the end (which I look forward too so much) are some of the best, if not the best, RUclips has to offer.

  • @clericofchaos1
    @clericofchaos1 8 лет назад +46

    I know how to do it!...but i'll never tell ;D

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  8 лет назад +16

      I think I do too, but that's a different video. -- KH

    • @DavidRodriguez-ux5ye
      @DavidRodriguez-ux5ye 8 лет назад

      +Nerdist quantum physics? Poor Einstein

    • @salmanige318
      @salmanige318 8 лет назад +4

      What would happen if a teleporter say Nightcrawler teleported while being beamed up?

    • @clericofchaos1
      @clericofchaos1 8 лет назад

      Salman Ige the same thing that would happen if you put a portable hole in a bag of holding, or crossed the streams...total protonic reversal.

    • @evelynpartridge39
      @evelynpartridge39 8 лет назад +3

      What I don't understand is how the transporters don't bring every single atom around you. How would it know where to stop transportting? If you stood in your house and were transported up, how would it know not to transport the WHOLE HOUSE?

  • @STSWB5SG1FAN
    @STSWB5SG1FAN 7 лет назад

    If you have seen the Next Gen episode "Realm of Fear", you'd see the transporter didn't actually "take anybody apart" since Reg was able to see, move and interact with the beings in the transporter beam. I'd theorize that rather than tearing someone / something down it temporarily moves you into a sort of sub dimension since whenever they talk about the transporter there is always some mention of how it interacts with the ship's subspace field (a possible topic for another video) This could also be a possible explanation of how, in the episode "Mirror, Mirror" they were able to cross between dimensions (normally the transporter wouldn't be powerful enough to push someone completely into an alternate dimension, but with the addition of that ion storm it may have given it more power and / or weakened the field in that area).

  • @arupmistry1378
    @arupmistry1378 8 лет назад +7

    4:39, Kylie must have some really bad regrets.

  • @coldblue32E
    @coldblue32E 8 лет назад

    After 4:15 we get to see Kyle's inner humanist philosophical side come out for a full minute as he contemplates life (very deep, thank you) and then we get the nerdy Star Trek humor at the end about The Second-In-Command, topped with a snort! Thank Kyle lmbo

  • @terrorkind
    @terrorkind 7 лет назад +85

    "...that part of you that regrets not spending enough time with your family."
    Jesus, Kyle, i'm just trying to watch a video on RUclips. Did you have to go right for my balls?

    • @snbforever
      @snbforever 6 лет назад

      terrorkind Kyle isn't Jesus, and He doesn't like you using His Name is vain 😇

    • @Obi1kenobi10
      @Obi1kenobi10 5 лет назад

      Thor went deep in this one.

    • @boyankovachev7982
      @boyankovachev7982 3 года назад

      @@snbforever idk, Kyle seems pretty cool

  • @DanB95
    @DanB95 8 лет назад

    Awesomeness..! I died when he showed the compilation of Riker sitting at the end though xD I NEVER noticed that!

  • @vinn1mao257
    @vinn1mao257 8 лет назад +8

    Deep thoughts by Kyle Hill

  • @mello__fello
    @mello__fello 8 лет назад

    Kyle, you got so "deep" at the end of the video... I thought I was going to cry.

  • @gormauslander
    @gormauslander 8 лет назад +5

    This is why we would warp space-time instead. It's a lot simpler, and more efficient.

  • @buddyfoster6698
    @buddyfoster6698 7 лет назад

    Great editing on this ep. When you get deep and the background music fades away it really hits you.

  • @1mezion
    @1mezion 6 лет назад +3

    So you're saying it's easier for us to just create a Stargate I always thought so too

  • @keimori6006
    @keimori6006 8 лет назад +2

    Whenever someone ask something like: how does the Heisenberg compensator work?
    The best answer is: Very well, thank you.

  • @FlagCutie
    @FlagCutie 8 лет назад +3

    That got very philosophical. Not to get all mushy, but the fact that a single human being is made up of that much data, and were are just one in 7 billion, of a single species in this tiny blue ball in the middle of our ever expanding universe is really rather beautiful! And that was a very long run-on sentence, oops.

  • @groovyisus
    @groovyisus 8 лет назад

    Wow!!.. You really got yourself high with this explanation Kyle. I believe this is my favorite video so far. The philosophical implications for the human information storage are mind blowing. Regards from Venezuela!

  • @aaronkeith2644
    @aaronkeith2644 7 лет назад +21

    *drops flashdrive down storm drain* Shiiiiit.....

  • @rainydaylady6596
    @rainydaylady6596 7 лет назад +1

    I almost teared up when you talked about the dreams and regrets being beamed. Would it be possible for someone to lose weight by going through a transporter? Could the computer be programmed to lose the atoms that make up the fat only in unwanted areas?

  • @Velocity_AU
    @Velocity_AU 8 лет назад +35

    Heres something you can do for "Because Science" Can the Flash vibrate though Vibrinum?

    • @dumpeeplarfunny
      @dumpeeplarfunny 8 лет назад +4

      That is an excellent question. I would love to see a video about that.

    • @blakeglebus7225
      @blakeglebus7225 8 лет назад

      that a great idea

    • @alkylperchlorate388
      @alkylperchlorate388 8 лет назад +1

      They did a video on how the flash would pass through a wall

    • @ZNotFound
      @ZNotFound 8 лет назад +1

      +Frank Nubler But Vibranium can absorb vibrations. So how would that work. The Flash has to vibrate to move on between atoms.

    • @RessG
      @RessG 8 лет назад +1

      +Zytran L In that video he explain: leave aside Vibranium, in real life you can't just pass through wall because you vibrate at the natural frequency of air like the movie explain
      The video's name is : How Superheroes Phase Through Walls Is All Wrong!
      (Because Science w/ Kyle Hill)

  • @Vgamer311
    @Vgamer311 8 лет назад +1

    This sort of thing always reminds me of the Hyperion new U stations from borderlands. "Hyperion reccomends not thinking about the fact that your current body is only a digital reconstruction of your original body, which died the first time you respawned. Do NOT think about this."

  • @Upsilon1984
    @Upsilon1984 8 лет назад +17

    You basically die every time you use the transporter.

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  8 лет назад +13

      I have this fantasy where the "you" that is reconstituted on the other side remembers dying for a split second and appears in the other transporter screaming your lungs out. -- KH

    • @deano9018
      @deano9018 8 лет назад

      depending on how you look at it you only die once then another version of you will die when he goes to use the teleporter and so on... better question is why was this technology never used to create backups or clones of specialists in the series.

    • @Arkios64
      @Arkios64 8 лет назад

      I don't know if it is available in english, but I've read "Der Drache von Samarkand" in which teleporting has that aspect. I think it is described as "like in a famous poem in which a quince sits on a spoon and is carried" only the quince is the person and the spoon is a dimensional catapult that throws you outside of our four dimensions, only to catch you at your target position at the same time (the other station has been sent the exact information as to when to catch you, that's how it overcomes the need to send ALL of your information).
      It's not actually dying in it, just being shot outside of our four dimensions. But apparently that shock alone is enough that people died from screaming too much after they come back ;~}

    • @IDANTEERG01
      @IDANTEERG01 8 лет назад

      +Nerdist
      That's creepy, but I think that's what really happens

    • @Etaukan
      @Etaukan 8 лет назад +1

      Exactly.
      These aren't wormhole generators, you're not being moved from place to place--you are totally being destroyed and then re-created, and that new 'you' isn't you at all. It just thinks it is.
      Watching the new Trek movie with that in mind made the whole thing pretty grim viewing.
      "Transporters--very, very impressive machines that kill everyone who uses them"

  • @ashleyferguson3115
    @ashleyferguson3115 6 лет назад

    I know I’m watching this almost 2 years later, but that description Kyle gives with the sound cut out...just breathtaking to understand. #lovescience #becausescience

  • @xINVISIGOTHx
    @xINVISIGOTHx 8 лет назад +4

    I like the new Star Trek movie

  • @ToonamiT0M
    @ToonamiT0M 8 лет назад

    6:45 It's called the Riker Maneuver, and it's awesome!

  • @WayofFlowingTime
    @WayofFlowingTime 8 лет назад +21

    I think that if we were to talk about a theoretical universe where sending this amount of information is possible, I think it is a lot more likely that transporters somehow instead fold together/overlap two points in space (or space-time?) so that they touch each other, similar to folding a 2d piece of paper in the third dimension, allowing the person or object to travel the distance between a ship and a planet in a single "step". I mean, this is the same universe where warp speed is a thing!

    • @illusion-xiii
      @illusion-xiii 8 лет назад +9

      That's a really cool alternative method for transporting a person/object across space. It doesn't match what is canonically described within Star Trek (which is breaking down a person/object and transmitting the molecular/atomic/quantum information to a receiver where it's reconstituted), so what you're saying isn't how transporters work, that's how Warp Drives work. But if you want to write your own universe where transporters use the same technology as warp drives, go ahead and do that. The world can always use more sci-fi authors.

    • @mystirboy
      @mystirboy 8 лет назад +2

      I had the same idea. In fact this would be a more realistic solution then disassembly and re-assembly teleport -> No existential questions plus there's no speed of light limit to traveling disassembled atoms..

    • @schadowization
      @schadowization 8 лет назад +4

      +Illusion-XIII So you mean a sort of Stargate?

    • @ItsZorroDood
      @ItsZorroDood 8 лет назад +1

      I will never believe that it will ever be possible for humanity to bend space in a way that doesn't cause massive damage to everything involved. You can't just sit somewhere in the universe and "bend space".

    • @bryanwoods3373
      @bryanwoods3373 8 лет назад +3

      +schadowization I think more like the Goa'uld transport ring. An equal area of space at both ends switch positions at the exact same time. They even used this to get inside ships when Jaffa troops were sent down.

  • @mattstewie420
    @mattstewie420 7 лет назад

    something about this episode got really really deep. i wasn't ready

  • @lonartta933
    @lonartta933 8 лет назад +3

    Wouldn't it be easier to Quantum tunnel someone instead of transport them?

  • @forgefathereli8354
    @forgefathereli8354 8 лет назад

    In TNG one of the episodes is about a crewmember who is afraid of using the Transporter because of the very philosophical matters we discuss today. But as he soon found out you don't lose consciousness during a transport they beam the parts of your body that can feel pain away and then deconstruct you bit by bit not all at once more like a human ship of theseus, who simply can't feel they are being ripped apart and reassembled. Also the reason the transporter has had so many issues through time is exactly because they designed it to retain your identity now in star trek jargon this means not changing the quantum states which is why sometimes they get people from other universes other times or parallel universes while their crewmember was beamed to where the guy that showed up was supposed to go.
    Because of this Teleportation technology was actually banned in the Mirror universe because it started the human empire on a path of a peaceful renaissance, (which unfortunatly lead to the subjugation of humanity because they stopped acting as aggressive as their celestial neighbors haha)
    But in one of the millions of star trek novels only like 1000 of which are cannon (im quoting a cannon story here) the same crew member from this episodes is working with a group of romulans attempting to create the very teleportation technology (long range, as in planet to planet across light years)that we ironically see KHAAAAN using in the "new star trek" which is laughably 200 years before the event from the book im describing. anyway getting away from idiosyncrasies of the star trek universe. The crewmember notices when he uses the new form of transportation he doesn't retain consciousness throughout the whole teleport there's as he puts it an "attosecond that feels like eternity and then you feel like yourself again".
    He posited that the new teleporter that they used funneled the information too perfectly and he claimed that he was no longer himself but a different person, having used a ship to get back to the first transport pad unwilling to just kill himself again to tell them that they killed the first version of him they teleported.
    Then the whole story is just about how this is how all romulan transporters secretly work and the upper echelons of the romulan Senate have decided perfect copies of themselves are the same as themselves even though they technically kill themselves and create a new being every single time anyone uses any romulan transporter. So they do have "both" types of transporters in universe and recognize the issue all too well. Some species simply don't care, its about the greater good, not about individuals technically not being themselves and by the end of their careers have died 1000's of times in theory. (english is my 3rd language so if u even got this far down well done you have patience with poor english)

  • @albertsitoe7340
    @albertsitoe7340 8 лет назад +7

    That video just went vsauce deep

  • @stevenruff9012
    @stevenruff9012 7 лет назад

    I just watch this episode and I think it's funny how serious you are about these issues. but I still love you ,it's funny as hell to watch keep up the good work.

  • @malango255
    @malango255 8 лет назад +3

    I prefer 2 SNES's over half an N64

  • @jimcanterak7349
    @jimcanterak7349 7 лет назад

    I love this guy. I suspect he would be the coolest buddy you can have.

  • @SpeedWeed123
    @SpeedWeed123 8 лет назад +5

    This hit me hard. Exestensial chrisis.png

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  8 лет назад +5

      That "deep voice" is more like how I sound off camera. My "on" voice has a lot more energy than it usually would. -- KH

    • @benklehr1824
      @benklehr1824 8 лет назад

      +Nerdist here's another existential crisis. If we could hold all the bytes that make up a person, couldn't we avoid death forever? like a donor card in the wallet Emts could just print a new you if you had the flash drive on you. *wavey eyebrows*

  • @MegaMGstudios
    @MegaMGstudios 8 лет назад +1

    4:27 well, that became philosofical all of a sudden

  • @Tallacus
    @Tallacus 8 лет назад +8

    aren't transporters and replicators basically the same thing? they all reconstruct things atom by atom

    • @john_paul_r
      @john_paul_r 8 лет назад +2

      Now that you put it that way.... Yeah, pretty much.

    • @garyfreeman7122
      @garyfreeman7122 8 лет назад +3

      which implies that if you sent transporter-beam info to the replicators, you could serve up slices of Ryker straight from the replicators
      ...or bits of Deanna Troy. Or a complete copy of 7of9 but without a brain, so she won't protest the disgraceful things I'd do to her.
      Man, this got weird quickly. I think I need a cold shower.
      (edited 2 hours later) I just realised that 7of9 without a brain would essentially be a dead 7of9 being spat out the replicator. At this point the right thing to do is probably throw the body out of an airlock, and not drag it back to my cabin to ...use.
      Ah, but wait! Can the brainless 7of9 be truly called 'dead' if it never actually lived? Ah ha! Saved from accusation of necrophilia by the magic of semantics!

    • @jayferguson9968
      @jayferguson9968 8 лет назад +1

      They always have been. It's one of the problems I have with Trek. If you have a pattern - and there is no 'soul' - then all you ever need to do is copy the best and brightest to go explore everything. You could even just mass produce starships, once you had a power source that's replicable. Nuclear sort of w*rks. Trek rilly got silly toward the end of Voyager. Not even talking about the latest movies, with superblood and transgalaxy beaming.

    • @tigersebel
      @tigersebel 8 лет назад +4

      They are indeed similar technologys. But there is a major difference. Replicator "only" saves information on a molecular lvl which is enough for food, clothes or other items. But they cant "Replicate" humans because you need to use the quantum lvl and this is too much for a Replicator. This is also the reason some individuals taste a difference between real food and replicated food. Or why there are some materials that can't be replicated (Latinum for example).

    • @cmdrparasite
      @cmdrparasite 8 лет назад

      not only that but such a thing would be against the ethics of the federation. they don't even allow human augmentation.

  • @zendrumcorps
    @zendrumcorps 7 лет назад

    Man that hurt, just tying to imagine a stack of flash drives stacked across the universe. You got me on that one. Great video!

  • @Captain__Obvious
    @Captain__Obvious 7 лет назад +11

    Compression. This RUclips video uses it and so would an encoding system for describing a physical human being. DNA is an example already existing in nature.

    • @LeutnantComanderData
      @LeutnantComanderData 6 лет назад +1

      also for the transfer using quantum entanglement would be a good start since it's instant - imagine you buffering because your data volume ran out lmao

    • @manofqwerty
      @manofqwerty 6 лет назад +1

      Doesn’t really solve the time issue, the amount of time needed to map the entire person and then to compress it would be phenomenal

    • @richterman3962
      @richterman3962 6 лет назад

      Yannick Gleichauf actually transporters do that

  • @WilliamsJamesEdward
    @WilliamsJamesEdward 7 лет назад

    Its funny that so many think that the transporter was created to show us a hopeful future with fantastic scientific marvels. It was in fact originally designed/created to make it so that they did not need to have a scene going to/from a planet every episode to save money. Star Trek and other shows of that era did not have a lot of money and they had to cut costs as much as possible. They even make fun of it in an episode of Voyager about reusing sets.

  • @zainmo300
    @zainmo300 8 лет назад

    Kyle getting real deep in this episode. And don't forget that there was an episode which proved that all information has to be fully transmitted, where 3 guys were transported and a power interruption caused them to be lost forever

  • @TheJNastayy
    @TheJNastayy 8 лет назад +1

    Wow, this one got real philosophical toward the end

  • @scribejackhammar
    @scribejackhammar 8 лет назад

    There was an episode in TNG were there's a Riker clone created, but entirely by accident. The transporter operator used two data streams to ensure Riker's survival, but the second one wasn't necessary.

  • @MrTej780
    @MrTej780 8 лет назад +1

    I like the real talk at the end, that was nice.

  • @BertGrink
    @BertGrink 7 лет назад

    I seem to recall that there was one episode wherein Commander Riker was doubled, with one Riker being the usual one, but the other was, if not evil, then at least very, very different, and as i remember it, this version joined the Maquis rebels.

  • @TwistedSynn
    @TwistedSynn 8 лет назад

    ok I never noticed Riker taking a seat like that, but now I've seen that, I won't be able to unsee it now.

  • @UNOwen-nn6ui
    @UNOwen-nn6ui 8 лет назад

    hahahaha that grin tough 1:42😂😂😂

  • @karlstein1362
    @karlstein1362 8 лет назад

    So, one thing that's never been fleshed out in the series or any movie is that the transporter could basically act as a "do-over" device. In TNG season 2, ep 7, Dr. Pulaski was cured of a disease by entering the transporter and being overwritten by a template of her before the disease. In season 6, ep 4, Scotty was able to survive decades by basically downloading himself into the transporter and being stored as memory until someone could come along and essentially print him back out. And in season 6, ep 24, the transporter tries to beam Riker back to the ship, detects an error, and tries again. The error was a distortion field that reflected the beam back to the surface, so we had two Rikers, meaning the transporter can create life. Think about it: What's that? Kirk was trampled to death by a romulan hippo? Beam the body back to the enterprise but overwrite it with his last transporter pattern. He'll appear on the ship with no knowledge of anything since he beamed down

  • @jerk1921
    @jerk1921 6 лет назад +1

    What, in my book, I have deemed "The transporter Effect" and was already well known by the writers of the show; That going through the transporter will make an atomic scan/map of your body, then Annihilate you. NOW YOUR DEAD. !!!!
    Your dead and you dont exist any more. Then the magic matter beam creates a brand new atomic copy of who you were at the point the machine annihilated you. This is a brand new person with the same, engrams/memories that you had when you were killed by the machine. This is actually explore in several episodes, the biggest being the second living copy of Will Riker.

  • @Anthrolithos
    @Anthrolithos 7 лет назад

    The Picard Maneuver was a nice touch.

  • @marianaaguilera4806
    @marianaaguilera4806 8 лет назад +1

    Damn, for a moment there, it got very poetic. I stared at the screen like: wow.
    Beautiful

  • @ejakez
    @ejakez 4 года назад

    Saw that shirt-fix before exiting stage-up; classic transporter etiquette

  • @wyldride
    @wyldride 7 лет назад +1

    Although it in no way relates to the way it's described on the show, I've always thought of transporters as being more similar to the warp drive. That is: It freezes you in place, warps space such that an area the size of you at the source touches an equal sized space at the other end, selectively pokes you through to the other side, unwarps the space and releases you on the other side.
    Thing is, there are conflicting portrayals on the show. Like, this explanation wouldn't work for the time Riker got duplicated. But then again, the scan and duplicate method doesn't explain how Reg Barkley can be actively aware during a transport, or Kirk actually talking Saavik while beaming up in Wrath of Khan. Sometimes transporters seem to work more like a Portal Gun than a scanner, except when they don't.
    *shrug*

  • @azraelcorvo9087
    @azraelcorvo9087 8 лет назад +1

    That ending was kinda poetic. Which was chill.

  • @wharryall
    @wharryall 8 лет назад

    Hi, Kyle and the Nerdist family. As I was watching this episode, I was wondering if the transit 2.0 in the show Dark Matter is more plausible than beaming people. Is it? I love this show, channel, and I hope you keep it up because it's inspiration to the fellow nerds out there who are craving this stuff.

  • @bandgeek9723
    @bandgeek9723 8 лет назад +1

    Question! I know that in later Trek series, like Voyager, when they're talking about amounts of data they say "tera-quads" or "kili-quads" of data. This to me suggests that they're using quantum computers. Would the use of quantum computers make an appreciable difference in storing and transferring the amount of data required for teleportation?

  • @pboytrif1
    @pboytrif1 3 года назад +1

    Picard: Data, one to beam aboard.
    Data: I’m sorry sir... I cannot comply. It appears we have used our allocated data for this month. We will need to extend our roaming plan.
    Picard: Make it so.

  • @Lambda_Ovine
    @Lambda_Ovine 6 лет назад

    Here's another detail: You need to process all that info in order for the computer to understand what to rebuild, and not only that, I imagine that there would be a need to use some encryption to secure the transfer of information (because we don't want anyone intersecting the signal to literally steal you), so add that to the process too.

  • @BlinkyTheSpaceCadet
    @BlinkyTheSpaceCadet 8 лет назад

    I love your work Kyle! And you got deep and philosophical today! Awesome!

  • @tracytoltien
    @tracytoltien 4 года назад

    I dont remember where i heard the description, but they said transporters dont turn us to bits, but into actual energy, then transport that a said distance and remake matter from that energy. and since the energy and matter are directly related, it works.

  • @Rycel2001
    @Rycel2001 8 лет назад

    The binary graphics used in this episode got me thinking: These data estimates are based on current computational technology, and computers in Star Trek utilize sophisticated isolinear hardware so their data processing must be incredibly advanced, so what would the physical model for the data storage cited in this episode be if we used even rudimentary projections what quantum computers could do in our own near future? If instead of singular bits of data being represented by 0 or 1 (a range of 2), it could be represented by 0-9 (a range of 10) or A-Z (a range of 26), what could this mean for how we conceptualize and implement data storage?

  • @erichurst7897
    @erichurst7897 7 лет назад

    The "Heisenberg Compensator" is my favorite piece of Star Trek technobabble.