Beautiful landscape you have there! Had to jump in the deep end at the Daintree national park recently as there is no "terrain" to practice on in Brissy where I fly! One tip tho, increase your PITCH max in config as you seem to have plenty of power, learnt this (almost) the hard way when my platform cleared the tree tops at 3m at the top! After I did that, it was always consistently at the correct elevation. Makes for consistent overlap and less anxiety!
I just recently received a pixhawk and I'm hesitant of installing it. Yet, after seeing your video, it has given more confidence. I'm wondering if the reason why it was a little lower elevation, while flying over the terrain, could be because the climb rate of the plane couldn't keep up with the terrain. I'm guessing if it was in a drone, it may be better able to match the elevation and fly more parallel to the terrain. Great job and keep up the great work!
I'm impressed at the terain following feature... Can't wait for mi Mini Pix to show up. Would probably fly smother with a larger wingspan... but still great video.
I guess it depends on your requirements. My pressing one now is well while getting caught in the excitement of our Raidian motorgliders being lifted by powerful thermals it is, on occasion and temporarily, possible to loose sight of our well worn foam. RTL and loiter please! Then maybe help us dull of sense to find the crazy lift in the first place!
I also noticed how often the nose rose and fell with the maybe rhythmic auto throttle adjustments. Made me wonder how dense the elevation points, how many are actually used, and how exactly it plots the altitude flight plan. Wonder if there is a way to display it above a slice of the geographical altitude. An example I first think of is the Tour de France graphs of the climbs and descents of the days ride. If we were able to look at a flight plan by turning it to see the elevation profile and still be able to grab and adjust only the height above data or may be adjust heading slightly according to terrain along with climb and descent to produce a more efficient flight. Aw, its probably already in Mission Planner just waiting for...
That reminds me, I forgot to show the Google Earth 3D visualization, just uploaded it now. The points are about 100m apart in most areas, I can't really see any justification for it going up and down so much at those locations.
hi! Do you receive clear video picture from plane with APM- radio link ? The video transmitter and radio transmitter effect each other. I used 1.3 ghz 1500 mw. I think that you use 5.8 ghz but also the same result may be ...?
Well done! Seemed a lot smoother when you were flying manually. Are there any parameters you could tune to get it flying more smoothly when in autopilot mode? As well as making the video smoother this might also save a little power and so increase range.
I’m also using Li Ion batteries with Mission planner/Pixhawk airplane, and have been getting a new type of warning recently on the mission planner HUD in red. : BAD BATTERY Wondering if you had seen this too, and why? Seems there is an internal resistance monitor in arduplane set for Lipos, and it’s detecting too high internal resistance. (Normal of course for a Li Ion battery) Using 4S4P Li Ion NCR18650GA cells, and only pulling 23 amps. Cells rated for 10a each, so 40 amps total. I get the warning about 2/3 through the flight, after about 78 minutes, when going to a high power setting. Any way to select battery cell type, etc? Or to shut off the false alarm in Mission Planner? It stays until reboot. Happing with new cells and several new batteries, so I’m well sure that it’s not a real problem.. also batteries are giving 90+% of their rated capacity, so they are genuine. Just wondering if anyone had seen the same thing?
I have not seen that.Then again, I only ever tried li-ion on two planes which both did not have FPV set up, so I wasn't seeing any OSD messages at all :) I'm also using a relatively old version (v3.9.8 I think) that possibly did not have red text implemented since OSD support was very new at the time. I searched the source code and the only thing I can find is this, which doesn't say much: uint11 STATUS_FLAG_BAD_BATTERY = 64 # This battery should not be used anymore (e.g. low SOH) Seems like it's exactly what you're thinking it is. The rapid change in power setting probably results in a different IR measurement than when under a steady load. I'm not aware of any settings to change the cell type btw recently I came across a source of hardly used 18650's that's both cheap and plentiful, so you'll be seeing many more of those on my channel in future - and I mean many :)
@@iforce2d Thanks for the digging you did. I'll let you know when I find a solution. I very much look forward to seeing what you manage to do with Li Ion cells. Convert your Sweet CAR?? ha ha?
i'm so impress how fast you learn Arduplane :) but you miss one fiture, "Airspeed" that the advantages with the Arduplane once you tried that, i'm sure you wont tried another FC you will be suprise how efficient flying the plane with the Airspeed in it *guaranty* :D
STupid question but how do you interface the PC with the aircraft/ RC radio ? I understand telemetry on the taranis but what is the connection to the PC ?
Nice video! I’ve got to no though. How did you get such good video feed on mission planner? What VTX are you using camera as well? I have my solo video feed to mission planner and the video is pixelated bad! I also have other self made drones that I would like to get video feed to MP as well but after seeing the quality of video feed from 3DR solo I’m not sure.
Just one question so I am sure I have not got this wrong. Can you run this flight control software off a Arduino Uno with the appropriate sensors? Is the elevation data stored on board? As you are probably downloading this from the same place I get my elevation data for map making, it is very accurate. In my area the Lidar data has a resolution of 5 points pr square meter. If your barometer and GPS are working and calibrated, you should have no reason to mistrust the system. If you keep a safe distance from the ground you should avoid trees and power lines. Planning a mission is half the work anyway. This technology opens lots of doors for me as a developer.
No. You can't even run it on an STM32 F1 or F3, and not even on some of the F4 boards either, if they don't have enough memory. Just take a look at the docs, much more straightforward than asking people on RUclips :) ardupilot.org/plane/docs/common-autopilots.html
Hey Chris another good one. Have you thought of putting Arduplane on your inav board for two mavlink? I am thinking of doing it with my Paris Air 3 Inav as I love the board and the price is great just dont like rhe limitations.
So how did you get it to fly every second line?then come back and complete the others? I have had issues flying every line in order and the turn radius is always to big which screws up the waypoint alignment
iforce2d aha thanks..also in your main (flight data) screen you can right click on the map image and bring the flight planner screen into that section of the flight data screen. That way you can have all the waypoints showing in your main screen
Great job on successfully working with this feature. You mentioned downloading the terrain info into an SD card. Where do you down load the terrain info from? Is it in mission planner?
can you make a homemade airtunnal for the airplane and then you can analys the airflow in the wing to se why the airplane behaves in the air and maybe then it will gett rid of jello with e.g VG. But any ways it was very nice video and i like it. keep it up with the good work!:)
@@iforce2d what do you mean, it's faked on There or does your vrx have a digital out? I've experimented with a vrx that outputs over usb and the resolution and framerate was hideous ha ha I know capture cards cm give a better experience bit I font know which are good and with are bad :(
@@iforce2d Ahh, that would explain the clear and sharp edge to the video in the planner. I initially thought the video feed was through planner as it's possible as im sure your aware being someone who knows arduplane very well. Thanks for clearing that up :)
@@iforce2d as someone who does know ardupilot well, do you know if it's possible to extract the gyro data from planner to ppm or pwm? Building a rig that tilts a chair and screen setup using powerful servos would make a fun flying rig. I'm thinking a platform on a central ball joint with two 60kg servos for roll and two for tilt would provide enough power for the average weight adult. I can build the 'simulator ' style rig but I haven't been able to find out if it's possible to get the attitude information out of planner to drive the servos.
Nice demo. I will also have to try. I don't know what is going on with the settings loading on your FC I don't think it is normal. With my Pixhawk the settings only take 5 to 10 seconds to load during connection.
You just did :) Discussing here is more useful for other people in future than a personal response which only helps you. Somebody else might even answer your questions if I don't know. But to be honest I probably don't remember many details of something like I did over a year ago, I would most likely have to look up the docs myself, link is in the description. There is also Adupilot forums where many more knowledgeable people than me can help you.
Why is inav wasting there time with planes when ardupilot is so far ahead and you can get a complete kit for so cheap. I really wish they focused on making inav work really well for drones it could be the long range firmware for miniquads.
PIX works great for quads, VTOL, and planes, INAV is getting there too. And who can't appreciate All-in-one, OSD, Auidio control, telemetry on well for me a $22 Omnibus F3 and a $14 mini M8N GPS. And until now there hasn't been a PIX this cheap. One reason may be the limited memory on this board 1M flash and 192K RAM instead of 2M/256K. Upgrading firmware may be an issue...but We have evidence here that it can do more than the no longer supported APM which worked well also. Maybe we need to be able to do more with less horsepower or as usual some bright problem solver will find a workaround or mod like....bangs6996...and many others who taught me how to revive a broken Nova/Cheerson CX-20 gifted by an RC club member. I added all the mods before I killed it, pilot error, and then a second CX-20 in which I used a F3 controller to make a more lively, cheap Phantom clone well which I Killed by disarming at 30 feet or so. Great experiences anyway. Competition is great! Buy both, learn both, support both, share your successes and failure, fixes and workarounds. Use Ardupilot and RC Forums and INav Facebook groups and here on the RUclips to point out issues and propose improvements . Put them to use for fun, experimentation, work, experience, education and always always for good safe harmless uses!
I've got a Pixhawk clone on order, this series hasn't been making the wait easier ;-)
Nice! The flight at the end was very relaxing to watch as well. Beautiful nature
Amazing. you are always on the cutting edge of flight control and hd fpv. great quality.
Beautiful landscape you have there! Had to jump in the deep end at the Daintree national park recently as there is no "terrain" to practice on in Brissy where I fly! One tip tho, increase your PITCH max in config as you seem to have plenty of power, learnt this (almost) the hard way when my platform cleared the tree tops at 3m at the top! After I did that, it was always consistently at the correct elevation. Makes for consistent overlap and less anxiety!
I just upgraded from APM2.6 to Pixhawk recently and thinking to test this feature as well. Thank you for sharing this video. It's very informative.
Does it stabilize better being a 32bit vs 8 ..or in that regard they work the same?
I just recently received a pixhawk and I'm hesitant of installing it. Yet, after seeing your video, it has given more confidence. I'm wondering if the reason why it was a little lower elevation, while flying over the terrain, could be because the climb rate of the plane couldn't keep up with the terrain. I'm guessing if it was in a drone, it may be better able to match the elevation and fly more parallel to the terrain. Great job and keep up the great work!
true you can also increase the distance that the plane looks ahead at terrain. will also help, and can plot terrain graph in mission planner.
Good to know it works. I have never used it because the terrain maps in Australia are so dodgy.
Not surprising.... you people do everything the wrong way round.
I'm impressed at the terain following feature... Can't wait for mi Mini Pix to show up.
Would probably fly smother with a larger wingspan... but still great video.
Thanks a lot for the nice flight in the end of the video :) Really beautiful landscape
Great Video mate. FYI if you didn't know already if you up your frames per second (FPS) you will get rid of the jello effect.
I guess it depends on your requirements. My pressing one now is well while getting caught in the excitement of our Raidian motorgliders being lifted by powerful thermals it is, on occasion and temporarily, possible to loose sight of our well worn foam. RTL and loiter please! Then maybe help us dull of sense to find the crazy lift in the first place!
I also noticed how often the nose rose and fell with the maybe rhythmic auto throttle adjustments. Made me wonder how dense the elevation points, how many are actually used, and how exactly it plots the altitude flight plan. Wonder if there is a way to display it above a slice of the geographical altitude. An example I first think of is the Tour de France graphs of the climbs and descents of the days ride. If we were able to look at a flight plan by turning it to see the elevation profile and still be able to grab and adjust only the height above data or may be adjust heading slightly according to terrain along with climb and descent to produce a more efficient flight.
Aw, its probably already in Mission Planner just waiting for...
That reminds me, I forgot to show the Google Earth 3D visualization, just uploaded it now. The points are about 100m apart in most areas, I can't really see any justification for it going up and down so much at those locations.
That's really impressive. It rides the throttle far more than a human would... maybe there is a lesson there. The "old" farm still looks good.
Yeah that place has a lot more interesting features to fly around than where I am now.
very nice work Chris. Very Nice..
hi! Do you receive clear video picture from plane with APM- radio link ? The video transmitter and radio transmitter effect each other. I used 1.3 ghz 1500 mw. I think that you use 5.8 ghz but also the same result may be ...?
Depends on the distance etc, but it was pretty good this day. I had a patch antenna pointed in the main direction of travel.
Well done! Seemed a lot smoother when you were flying manually. Are there any parameters you could tune to get it flying more smoothly when in autopilot mode? As well as making the video smoother this might also save a little power and so increase range.
The last part is smoothed in post-process, note the nose of the plane moving relative to the frame.
RC Planes are very lightweight, and the wings are easily tipped either way by wind turbulence. It's just how it is.
great video .. both informative and enjoyable
Really cool!
The previous sentence applies to all content by you.
I’m also using Li Ion batteries with Mission planner/Pixhawk airplane, and have been getting a new type of warning recently on the mission planner HUD in red. : BAD BATTERY
Wondering if you had seen this too, and why? Seems there is an internal resistance monitor in arduplane set for Lipos, and it’s detecting too high internal resistance. (Normal of course for a Li Ion battery)
Using 4S4P Li Ion NCR18650GA cells, and only pulling 23 amps. Cells rated for 10a each, so 40 amps total.
I get the warning about 2/3 through the flight, after about 78 minutes, when going to a high power setting.
Any way to select battery cell type, etc? Or to shut off the false alarm in Mission Planner?
It stays until reboot. Happing with new cells and several new batteries, so I’m well sure that it’s not a real problem.. also batteries are giving 90+% of their rated capacity, so they are genuine.
Just wondering if anyone had seen the same thing?
I have not seen that.Then again, I only ever tried li-ion on two planes which both did not have FPV set up, so I wasn't seeing any OSD messages at all :) I'm also using a relatively old version (v3.9.8 I think) that possibly did not have red text implemented since OSD support was very new at the time.
I searched the source code and the only thing I can find is this, which doesn't say much:
uint11 STATUS_FLAG_BAD_BATTERY = 64 # This battery should not be used anymore (e.g. low SOH)
Seems like it's exactly what you're thinking it is. The rapid change in power setting probably results in a different IR measurement than when under a steady load. I'm not aware of any settings to change the cell type
btw recently I came across a source of hardly used 18650's that's both cheap and plentiful, so you'll be seeing many more of those on my channel in future - and I mean many :)
@@iforce2d Thanks for the digging you did. I'll let you know when I find a solution. I very much look forward to seeing what you manage to do with Li Ion cells. Convert your Sweet CAR?? ha ha?
@@FPVREVIEWS have you solved ardupilot BAD BATTERY warning yet?
Love the FPV section at the end, so pretty. Would you recommend the Z84 or the S800 for this kind of FPV?
i'm so impress how fast you learn Arduplane :)
but you miss one fiture, "Airspeed" that the advantages with the Arduplane
once you tried that, i'm sure you wont tried another FC
you will be suprise how efficient flying the plane with the Airspeed in it *guaranty* :D
I wonder if there are distance sensors that can influence the flying of the pix controller...
STupid question but how do you interface the PC with the aircraft/ RC radio ? I understand telemetry on the taranis but what is the connection to the PC ?
ardupilot.org/copter/docs/common-sik-telemetry-radio.html
Nice video! I’ve got to no though. How did you get such good video feed on mission planner? What VTX are you using camera as well? I have my solo video feed to mission planner and the video is pixelated bad! I also have other self made drones that I would like to get video feed to MP as well but after seeing the quality of video feed from 3DR solo I’m not sure.
That is not a live feed, I recorded it with an onboard HD camera and overlaid it on the MP screen afterward.
iforce2d lol. That had me fooled! Great video
Brilliant. Thanks for sharing.
Ever thought about atempting to make your own terain maps with photogrammetry from aerial images?
Just one question so I am sure I have not got this wrong.
Can you run this flight control software off a Arduino Uno with the appropriate sensors? Is the elevation data stored on board?
As you are probably downloading this from the same place I get my elevation data for map making, it is very accurate. In my area the Lidar data has a resolution of 5 points pr square meter. If your barometer and GPS are working and calibrated, you should have no reason to mistrust the system. If you keep a safe distance from the ground you should avoid trees and power lines. Planning a mission is half the work anyway. This technology opens lots of doors for me as a developer.
No. You can't even run it on an STM32 F1 or F3, and not even on some of the F4 boards either, if they don't have enough memory. Just take a look at the docs, much more straightforward than asking people on RUclips :)
ardupilot.org/plane/docs/common-autopilots.html
Hey Chris another good one. Have you thought of putting Arduplane on your inav board for two mavlink? I am thinking of doing it with my Paris Air 3 Inav as I love the board and the price is great just dont like rhe limitations.
Impressive - Thank You!
@iforce2d Looking great! Thanks for the great demo video. Do you mind if we post this on the wiki?
No problem
So how did you get it to fly every second line?then come back and complete the others? I have had issues flying every line in order and the turn radius is always to big which screws up the waypoint alignment
There is an 'alternate lanes' setting in the flight planner: ruclips.net/video/D_ZTfU6B8ic/видео.htmlm51s
iforce2d aha thanks..also in your main (flight data) screen you can right click on the map image and bring the flight planner screen into that section of the flight data screen. That way you can have all the waypoints showing in your main screen
Wonderful footage , what cam?
What VTx and VRx are you using? o.O
What are you using to keep the computer connected to the plane?
ardupilot.org/copter/docs/common-sik-telemetry-radio.html
bit.ly/3dAsj23
@@iforce2d Friggin beautiful. Thank you kind sir!
Great job on successfully working with this feature. You mentioned downloading the terrain info into an SD card. Where do you down load the terrain info from? Is it in mission planner?
Yeah I seem to recall Mission Planner just grabs it from the internet automatically somehow. Docs are linked to in the description.
Cheers!
can you make a homemade airtunnal for the airplane and then you can analys the airflow in the wing to se why the airplane behaves in the air and maybe then it will gett rid of jello with e.g VG. But any ways it was very nice video and i like it. keep it up with the good work!:)
Jello is almost entirely from the motor and prop needing a little balancing.
All the cool cats fly Ardusoar
Thermal drone...Let the surfing begin...Thanks!
What capture device do you use on the laptop, the video is smooth and clear :)
I just overlaid footage from the HD camera (Runcam split mini) on top of the HUD panel.
@@iforce2d what do you mean, it's faked on There or does your vrx have a digital out? I've experimented with a vrx that outputs over usb and the resolution and framerate was hideous ha ha
I know capture cards cm give a better experience bit I font know which are good and with are bad :(
@@stevefox3763 I overlaid it when I was editing the video afterward... just like my voice commentary wasn't coming from Mission Planner either :)
@@iforce2d Ahh, that would explain the clear and sharp edge to the video in the planner.
I initially thought the video feed was through planner as it's possible as im sure your aware being someone who knows arduplane very well.
Thanks for clearing that up :)
@@iforce2d as someone who does know ardupilot well, do you know if it's possible to extract the gyro data from planner to ppm or pwm?
Building a rig that tilts a chair and screen setup using powerful servos would make a fun flying rig.
I'm thinking a platform on a central ball joint with two 60kg servos for roll and two for tilt would provide enough power for the average weight adult.
I can build the 'simulator ' style rig but I haven't been able to find out if it's possible to get the attitude information out of planner to drive the servos.
Nice demo. I will also have to try. I don't know what is going on with the settings loading on your FC I don't think it is normal. With my Pixhawk the settings only take 5 to 10 seconds to load during connection.
I might be able to speed it up if I used a higher baud rate on the telemetry radios, but that would decrease the effective range somewhat.
Even with 57600 baud rate it should be much faster.
I need a rover video, any rover video 😂
It was awfully close to those trees on the ridge!
Yes, I had my finger hovering over the switch :)
I see you're following Bruce's path with cruise missile? ,D
Shame we can't use a micro radar system to follow in realtime.
Why is your MP steel disconnected during the mission?
It's not during the mission. MP is replaying the mission, the next day.
Clear! Good work, helpful.
What TX did you use ?
The usual :)
@@iforce2d flysky ?
how to stream video of FPV from mission planner?
also how is video so clear?
I took the HD footage from the onboard camera after the flight, and overlaid it in video editing. Nothing to do with Mission Planner.
@@iforce2d oh thank god I was in tension how u got such a high quality videos through video transmitter
Good video by the way
Hi!
How i can contact you? I have few questions.
You just did :) Discussing here is more useful for other people in future than a personal response which only helps you. Somebody else might even answer your questions if I don't know.
But to be honest I probably don't remember many details of something like I did over a year ago, I would most likely have to look up the docs myself, link is in the description. There is also Adupilot forums where many more knowledgeable people than me can help you.
Hell YEAH ! 😂
what telemetry are you using?
ruclips.net/video/aQ75bE0SZa0/видео.html
Tried it and it was scary lolz. But it works
🦇⚡ Bat Voltage
You going to do something with all the pictures later on?
It's not taking pictures, just flying
All right i thought the little camera icons indicated pictures taken :)
Yes, that's what it means. I just don't have any camera connected to that output right now.
All right clear. Future project maybe ;). Keep up the posts like them :)
Why is inav wasting there time with planes when ardupilot is so far ahead and you can get a complete kit for so cheap.
I really wish they focused on making inav work really well for drones it could be the long range firmware for miniquads.
PIX works great for quads, VTOL, and planes, INAV is getting there too. And who can't appreciate All-in-one, OSD, Auidio control, telemetry on well for me a $22 Omnibus F3 and a $14 mini M8N GPS. And until now there hasn't been a PIX this cheap. One reason may be the limited memory on this board 1M flash and 192K RAM instead of 2M/256K. Upgrading firmware may be an issue...but We have evidence here that it can do more than the no longer supported APM which worked well also. Maybe we need to be able to do more with less horsepower or as usual some bright problem solver will find a workaround or mod like....bangs6996...and many others who taught me how to revive a broken Nova/Cheerson CX-20 gifted by an RC club member. I added all the mods before I killed it, pilot error, and then a second CX-20 in which I used a F3 controller to make a more lively, cheap Phantom clone well which I Killed by disarming at 30 feet or so. Great experiences anyway.
Competition is great! Buy both, learn both, support both, share your successes and failure, fixes and workarounds. Use Ardupilot and RC Forums and INav Facebook groups and here on the RUclips to point out issues and propose improvements .
Put them to use for fun, experimentation, work, experience, education and always always for good safe harmless uses!
Very nice test! I've done a similar test, with OSD: ruclips.net/video/flFXz6pP83o/видео.html What a great place to fly you have there!
Are you going to attach gimbal on thag plane ?
Yeah, you better add gimbal for getting rid of jello and better video
I think this plane is too small for a gimbal
iforce2d can't you like soft month the camera ?
I heard that turning the stabilization on a gopro on works great for planes.
Stephen Gibb it works if it supports 4k and you select 1080p, but those new 4k gopros are expensive