Our 'Age of Anger'

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024

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  • @dreamsinoctarine
    @dreamsinoctarine 2 года назад +9

    As someone who has a low level burning rage at all times I've used it in my work as a community organizer & activist, went no contact with my abusive mother, and am working towards another degree that I think will be my best possible way of creating the better world I see in my mind that I wish for all of humanity. I LOVE my anger/rage because I've been able to use it as a constructive, motivating force in my life. (though still working on those road rage/slow computer frustration issues lolsob)

  • @HoodGrownGenius
    @HoodGrownGenius 2 года назад +152

    Only 15 mins in and this video has helped me more than my psychologists!!

    • @jalopenogardiner5323
      @jalopenogardiner5323 2 года назад +17

      It is comforting to examine History and see that our current situation isn't unique and is normal. History also provides tools & possible solutions to our challenges. The best thing about history ? Its FREE 😊

  • @nUmBskulLL
    @nUmBskulLL 2 года назад +35

    There are no wrong feelings. Anger is a function of the brain, same as joy or sadness. If you're angry, it's because your brain is trying to fight a perceived "assault" on your emotions. Let it fight, it will win.

  • @carloslinares991
    @carloslinares991 2 года назад +4

    I only found your videos a few weeks ago. I think your content is absolutely stellar! You have some of the highest production on long-form videos. You're up there with Philosophy Tube and Some More News, I want to try to spread your name as much as I can. You definitely are doing something great and I can't wait to watch more!

  • @laraparks7018
    @laraparks7018 Год назад +2

    In my experience, those who cause rage , do it calmly.😮

  • @beeinthehive
    @beeinthehive 2 года назад +9

    Justifiable anger gets things done when channeled. Indignation is not the enemy.

    • @morganmayfair4755
      @morganmayfair4755 2 года назад

      Unfortunately it makes you like a bull with a ring in his nose, easily led. And anger is addictive.

    • @beeinthehive
      @beeinthehive 2 года назад +3

      @@morganmayfair4755 For some who don't have as much selfcontrol as they perhaps should. For the rest of us, it is motivation. Anger isn't positive or negative. It's the actions which follow the anger that determine such things, and that is highly individualistic. When those individuals collect, things get done.

    • @morganmayfair4755
      @morganmayfair4755 2 года назад +1

      @@beeinthehive that depends on how you define negative. If you define it as physiologically harmful to your body then anger is negative. If you are saying anger is good fuel for rebellion, I would agree. But, the twentieth century has seen a buttload of rebellions turn into horror. I would rather see change come through debate, compromise, enforcement of the laws we have, prosecution of traitors... that sort of thing.

    • @beeinthehive
      @beeinthehive 2 года назад +6

      @@morganmayfair4755 True, but there are ways to relax the anger when it's time to destress. You shouldn't be angry all the time for the reason you mentioned. But yes, to get things done, we agree it is helpful and has purpose. Nothing gets done by complacency.
      Insofar as the law goes, many of them shouldn't even be laws. If no one is being harmed from an action or has the potential of harming someone (unwillingly) perhaps it shouldn't even be a law. There's no reason for it other than an excuse to arrest and fine people. There's a difference between a crime and breaking the law, or at least there certainly can be.
      I agree with you about rebellion, although I'm for a revolution (in the literal sense) but revolutions don't need to be violent and in fact it actually hiders the Cause. I'm of the mindset it needs to be brought in slowly... Slow and steady wins the race. We need to collectively build mutual aid centers and co-op businesses and programs and programs to help the poor, etc. We need to teach by example. We can't force people to see a better way, we must show them.

    • @Iamwolf134
      @Iamwolf134 2 года назад

      @@beeinthehive Agreed on that last paragraph. Though it's all too easy for infiltrators to compromise the revolution before it begins; remove as many threats to their own ambition as they can, such that they attain power uncontested.

  • @LitArtCulture
    @LitArtCulture 2 года назад +24

    An excellent and timely analysis. The history of emotions is an area that needs to be brought into the public's attention more and more.

  • @MrPoonomatic
    @MrPoonomatic 2 года назад +5

    recently at my work as a security person someone threatened to kill me for no apparent good reason. My life is a meditation where this guy found its way through and wakened the same anger in me. I felt sick with this for me new emotion of anger. It kills you from the inside. After talking with my dear friends one said:"it is easy to go on the road of the hatefull because of the temptation of feeling hard done by life and the bestial lower brain lizard.

  • @bellasears
    @bellasears 2 года назад +3

    Great video. I love finding new philosophy youtubers, especially when they go beyond just the Western cannon like you did at the start! Keep it up :)

  • @pikidipod
    @pikidipod 6 месяцев назад

    What an insightful video. Thank you for making it. Just yesterday I had a minor meltdown and beat my knuckles to a brick wall. I wish i had more self control when it comes to my emotions. But i do love the rush of adrenaline coursing through my veins.

  • @lj5116
    @lj5116 Год назад +2

    Not one mention of envy? Why? It’s a very relevant insanity and permissive aberrant emotion that’s fostered for political, and social aims.

  • @rightplaceeverything464
    @rightplaceeverything464 Год назад +1

    Nietzsche lived off a small pension and wrote of power in an angry tone. Stoics wrote of calmness and passivity from mansions and castles having never worked a day in their life. Traditional western philosophers should be taken with a grain of salt with this contrast in mind when they write of what it means to be human.

  • @dorithezencat
    @dorithezencat 2 года назад +21

    Very timely…we’ve just got K-Trump elected in Korea. Thank you for the great contents.

    • @amulyamishra5745
      @amulyamishra5745 2 года назад +1

      Congratulations!

    • @CPSPD
      @CPSPD 2 года назад +4

      @@amulyamishra5745 haha 😐

    • @amulyamishra5745
      @amulyamishra5745 2 года назад +1

      @@CPSPD well it's better thank getting a K-Biden!

    • @ZAwarudo14
      @ZAwarudo14 2 года назад +10

      @@amulyamishra5745 let me explain something to you: No.

    • @terrystevens3998
      @terrystevens3998 2 года назад

      @@amulyamishra5745 it’s so gross that people just ignore that Trump got a million Americans killed lying about a virus and then tried to overthrow our democratic election. Biden can’t be blamed for the fact he inherited a post truth, angry fascist country that is reeling from the damage the worst president we have ever had did.

  • @StressRUs
    @StressRUs Год назад

    This retired physician and stress researcher just ran across a recent study on cerebrovascular vulnerabilities and a light bulb went off in my squash: over overactive stress responses are driving vasoconstriction in our neocorticies and driving us into the fight/flight mode of the limbic system. So, Trumpites, Our Dear Leader and his accolites have learned to keep us stressed in order to keep us angry. Solution? Calm the hell down and let the blood flow back into your neocorticies to fuel logical thinking and action. QED.

  • @businessgoose6057
    @businessgoose6057 2 года назад +1

    Man.... this touched my heart

  • @ellDiavolo666
    @ellDiavolo666 Год назад

    Wow what a video, instant subscribe and respect

  • @generatoralignmentdevalue
    @generatoralignmentdevalue 2 года назад

    "Let's investigate...RAGE!!!"
    Chrismas music plays

  • @Billcruxley
    @Billcruxley Год назад

    I’ve been listening to your videos all day at work. It’s broken the rut of boredom I’ve been stuck in the last week or so. This is really well-made and researched.
    Also if someone doesn’t tell me the name of the song at 21:03 I may perish. Help!

  • @bryandraughn9830
    @bryandraughn9830 7 месяцев назад

    I got tired of being angry.
    The only thing it accomplished was that I was angry. It's a projection. A performance. One that just made me look silly. I wasn't good at it.
    Whenever I would lose my temper people would laugh hysterically.
    Long time ago.
    I'm pretty sure it was frustration anyway.
    Very uncomfortable feeling, anger.

  • @jkam2524
    @jkam2524 2 года назад +2

    Very good! Thank you.

  • @fburnsDubstepEnderFox
    @fburnsDubstepEnderFox 10 месяцев назад

    I feel anger at the things i can't control.

  • @_Chessa_
    @_Chessa_ 2 года назад

    I must have a defective brain.
    I am very angry or overly angry at myself.
    When I see my own reflection my response is wanting to hurt or punch myself.
    I know it is not correct and so I question my own self and my own anger on why I figure it to be smart to harm my own head. That can’t be smart.
    I know my brain is being irrational.
    I still sometimes allow myself to hurt my own arm, or my own head.
    It feels good for a moment until I feel the pain right after.
    I do totally hate myself. I’m angry I cannot think the way a normal person can.
    I’m not allowed to relive old memories like others can.
    I cannot do simple mathematics thanks to mental delays.
    All of these thoughts about myself as a whole makes me want to rage.

  • @saimbhat6243
    @saimbhat6243 2 года назад

    It was twitter and facebook, all along, but nobody saw it.

  • @donalvarez4006
    @donalvarez4006 Год назад

    "Aristotle was the only one who took the middle road."
    The Middle Path outlined by Buddha: am I a joke to you?

  • @bobjary9382
    @bobjary9382 Год назад

    I have so many issues with this video , or i have issues with its subject matter i think i have tried to make it all the way to the end at least three times .
    I cant follow it , not bc its wrong its just i go off in my head bc its such a deep subject and lose the thread of the narrative here

  • @Joebethere7
    @Joebethere7 2 года назад +4

    You might want to look at WHY anger exists in today's twisted political propaganda rather than the history of anger. People don't like to be lied to while their standard of living falls.

  • @818boy
    @818boy 2 года назад

    When a few are in charge of the masses!!!🤔🤨👹
    Choke on that!!!🤔🤨👹✌😘

  • @Aura13.13
    @Aura13.13 Год назад

    What an amazing video 👏😂

  • @adcaptandumvulgus4252
    @adcaptandumvulgus4252 Год назад

    rage sells

  • @chaosdweller
    @chaosdweller Год назад

    Wow I was just talking about very angry people online haha! weird.

  • @tigran56
    @tigran56 Год назад

    Seneca was Roman. Otherwise, Brill!

  • @soulchief1532
    @soulchief1532 Год назад

    “And let this truth be present to thee in the excitement of anger, that to be moved by passion is not manly, but that mildness and gentleness, as they are more agreeable to human nature, so also are they more manly; and he who possesses these qualities possesses strength, nerves and courage, and not the man who is subject to fits of passion and discontent. For in the same degree in which a man’s mind is nearer to freedom from all passion, in the same degree also is it nearer to strength: and as the sense of pain is a characteristic of weakness, so also is anger. For he who yields to pain and he who yields to anger, both are wounded and both submit.”
    - Marcus Aurelius

  • @hammadraza1000
    @hammadraza1000 2 года назад

    I am from Pakistan. How should I contribute to your channel. Thanks

  • @SlapShotRegatta22
    @SlapShotRegatta22 Год назад

    If you are feeling negative emotions towards events in the outside world, chancer are someone, somewhere is making money off of it. Plain and simple. Stop consuming media and you're life will infinitely improve.

  • @violetchristophe
    @violetchristophe 2 года назад +125

    I think anger can be a cover for more vulnerable feelings at times.

    • @JanefleesTexas
      @JanefleesTexas 2 года назад +18

      Definitely! Sometimes when I’m afraid of something it manifests as anger in me. I try to understand my feelings before expressing them, though.

    • @tylercooper1551
      @tylercooper1551 2 года назад +7

      Of course it is, anger is a nasty defense mechanism

    • @jeremys1648
      @jeremys1648 2 года назад +12

      In Buddhist understanding anger is a secondary emotion, meaning it can never be the first response to stimuli. The primary emotion, sadness/fear/guilt are not allowed for western males and will be replaced by anger in a matter of milliseconds. Buddhist practice is turning those milliseconds into seconds so we have a choice how to respond. Sorry so long winded, hopefully something useful for you in there

    • @jeremys1648
      @jeremys1648 2 года назад +3

      @Merula Amethyst yes I did, nice catch ty

    • @ullintalulna7066
      @ullintalulna7066 Год назад +3

      and that's all. i think that is the only answer needed to identify the essence of anger

  • @buhdahwee
    @buhdahwee 2 года назад +312

    As a certified angry black man I truly enjoyed this video. Might seem a bit trivial but I would've loved to see Mr. Rogers' bit on anger management in children featured somewhere in the beginning of this video. Nevertheless, excellent work as always!

    • @jayt7178
      @jayt7178 2 года назад +26

      Lol @ “as a certified angry black man,”
      That’s funny af.

    • @AdaptiveApeHybrid
      @AdaptiveApeHybrid 2 года назад +11

      Why do you think you're so angry? Just curious. I'm also very angry, bona fide angry

    • @buhdahwee
      @buhdahwee 2 года назад +63

      @@AdaptiveApeHybrid thinking of what I had to endure from childhood, throughout my life wrt to the color of my skin alone is enough to be angry, with a specific focus on colonialism. Then there were all the other things that came with it, growing up in a poor/working class neighborhood. Safe to say, I was radicalized from a very early age.

    • @AdaptiveApeHybrid
      @AdaptiveApeHybrid 2 года назад +15

      @@buhdahwee thanks for the response

    • @buhdahwee
      @buhdahwee 2 года назад +17

      @@AdaptiveApeHybrid no probs! What made you angry?

  • @middleofnowhere1313
    @middleofnowhere1313 2 года назад +43

    The fight or flight response carried into modern society turns fear to rage, and we have unscrupulous individuals who use that to manipulate and prey on people.

    • @middleofnowhere1313
      @middleofnowhere1313 2 года назад +5

      @@Web3Dverse Oh we've got a multitude of narcissists also. I tend to think those who enjoy creating problems at least have sociopathic or narcissistic tendencies. It's certainly not normal. But even regular normal people run around angry because they're scared. Unplugging from social media and not constantly watching the news are the best solutions I have for that.

    • @middleofnowhere1313
      @middleofnowhere1313 Год назад +4

      @@lorishu48103 Good question. From the interactions I've had, the best answer I can give is "sometimes." They absolutely do fly into rages but they also use this to manipulate others. Sometimes I wonder how many narc rages are real and how many are fake. Everything, with them, boils down to how to use other people.

  • @krampusz
    @krampusz 2 года назад +17

    As long as there are so huge differences in power between people, the main source of suffering and hurt is not anger.
    Powerful people can act level headed and calm when they hurt tens of thousands of employees in the company they own, can order the invasion of another country and mass murder by the military they control. They will not even flinch when they explain that this is the way of the world. That their interest is more important than others' and they must suffer or die for it. They will be so calm, so civil during all this.

    • @notexactlyrocketscience
      @notexactlyrocketscience 2 года назад +2

      those people were, at some point, angry. and then decided to implement violent plants.

  • @jochananberohart3578
    @jochananberohart3578 Год назад +12

    Buddhism in everyday life does not involve completely overcoming one's anger. Anger as an emotion that motivates action is recognized as valuable. It is a signpost, an indicator of something. Rather, practicing Buddhism requires seeing this anger, feeling it. Only when anger is repressed, not understood, is it a problem, because it then condenses into hatred. Therefore, anger is also something valuable in practiced Buddhism. It is about how I deal with this anger!

    • @adeleinetheartist8267
      @adeleinetheartist8267 Месяц назад

      Stop trying to twist Buddhism in order to make it fit your agenda.

  • @godot5643
    @godot5643 2 года назад +43

    what makes me angry is your videos not getting the views they deserve.

  • @hexapusink
    @hexapusink 2 года назад +18

    Jerry: "You've got a little rage."
    George: "I know. And now they want me to bottle it up. It makes me so mad!"

  • @satya3290
    @satya3290 2 года назад +67

    thank you so much for this video, it is a vital discussion. from the perspective of a non-white, non-western woman of some social privilege in my country of origin due to my caste... as an outsider to the west while being within the west, i see discourse coming from privileged genders/classes/castes that is tone deaf to what they will never encounter -- this absolutely happens in my country too. they won't be able to understand what anger triggered by millennia of social oppression is. there is a false equating of different types of rage produced by differing contexts, since we don't have front and centre in such discussions the voices of the most vulnerable and oppressed.

    • @kathyadair8552
      @kathyadair8552 Год назад

      Thank for your extra, less recognized, input. Kinda like, Hindu vs. Jainist.
      And, here, in the States 🇺🇲 Minorities get trampled on. Most do not even see it.

  • @ktmggg
    @ktmggg 2 года назад +23

    Twenty years ago when I was in college, I tried to write a term paper with anger as the subject matter. I gave up in frustration because the research needed was so vast, the time constraints burdensome, and my perfectionism lead to despair. Thank you for tackling this subject skillfully.

  • @ppike__
    @ppike__ Год назад +7

    I learnt from Buddhists something different. That anger is strong form of energy that can be transmuted into something positive, although very difficult. This is important in Kung Fu. To be energised naturally by the situation but not to be used by it. Perhaps its just no longer considered anger at that point. Anger can also be used as a signal for further reflection.

  • @Chamelionroses
    @Chamelionroses 2 года назад +5

    Rage that is consistent can also be a sign of depression. May need some doctors to help with that.
    Anger is fine but violence is not.

  • @walterweizenauer3918
    @walterweizenauer3918 2 года назад +5

    On one hand anger and rage pretty much define my existence. But a really important insight here, anger and rage are emotional states that occur when other more healthy emotions and drives are blocked. Here are the givens of the world I inhabit. There is a 1% aristocracy who are ENTITLED to and receive 98% of the benefits of this society. They are denied NOTHING. They are above law. ANY crime they commit is at worst reduced to a cost of doing business. The rest of us have been reduced to the status of precariat. I have always characterized this economic state of swimming through icy seas. No matter how hard you swim the cold and waves have endless energy to beat you back. If you know of any exceptions please send me their address, but I can not tell you one enterprise that is not run by narcissistic psychopaths who use every kind of abuse to coerce their underlings. We live in a system based on exploitation and theft for the benefit of a tiny few. THIS social medium exists to really isolate and crush and remaining aspirations. I am not disturbed by how ANGRY people are. I am way more disturbed by their passivity.

  • @gardener_jojo
    @gardener_jojo Год назад +4

    maybe ppl are so angry bc they now realize that all those ‘calm people’ were simply just not listening

  • @brianag1175
    @brianag1175 Год назад +16

    My experience as a human so far is that anger is healthy, useful, and necessary.
    I was apart of a group that professed we can't afford to he angry and we must be rid of it or it will kill us. I took that to heart and wanted to fulfill that so badly. I would try and act slowly and rationally. I'd tolerate so much b.s. so much b.s I stayed in abusive situations and relationships because I wouldn't allow my anger to exist. Once I finally got angry, I started to protect myself and say fuck your comfortability, fuck being spiritually fit. In therapy my therapist said that my anger is good and is there as an ultimate form of self love and care. It's there to protect me. When I suppress it, of course I'll eventually get depressed and be more likely to take shit.
    As a human, I say listen to your anger. Its trying to tell you something just like every other emotion. EVERYTHING in life is about balance.

    • @ronnestman4696
      @ronnestman4696 Год назад +2

      That was well said and is totally on target for me. From this day forward I’m going to embrace my anger and direct it towards it’s appropriate recipients. Thank you!

  • @0Shanna
    @0Shanna 2 года назад +12

    Thank you. I've been suppressing my righteous anger towards injustices done to me so much I've been unable to do anything, to stand up for myself and speak out against those injustices just because out of fear for the anger, out of indoctrination or learned behavior that ALL anger is bad. I see now that I've been suppressing it so much that it's even been causing major lingering depression. I have been frozen by fear that all anger is bad.
    It is because of THIS VIDEO that I've been able to see this and break through that perpetuating vicious circle. And it truly is vicious! An apt naming.
    Thank you So Very Much.
    I hope I can make progress with this information, though progress is never easy or simple. And I hope I'm not the only one feeling or seeing that fear of anger is freezing (my) progress, even though anger is scary.
    Please leave a comment if you're like me and recognize this too. I'm sure talking about it will help us, even if it might be only a bit of help. Progress is never easy.

  • @leealexander3507
    @leealexander3507 2 года назад +9

    I became mildly irritated over things that would normally amuse me although I would feign exasperation. It happened twice in one month. It turned out I have a severe bone infection behind my right ear caused by my hardware slipping out of place. Becoming actually angry is a rarity for me but it does happen on rare occasions over seeing something that is just not right. If I can't right the wrong I'll try to get help from others in order to do it but there are times one just can't fix something. That's when I get angry. The other thing I become angry over is if my body and health fail me I don't know why but that will really set me off.

  • @blackfeatherstill348
    @blackfeatherstill348 2 года назад +26

    What about passive aggression? Not being openly angry can be just as damaging and vindictive toward others than expressing anger.

    • @gregoryallen0001
      @gregoryallen0001 2 года назад +1

      imo america itself has such a poisonous culture of passive aggressive anger.. never talked about 👁

    • @oldishandwoke-ish1181
      @oldishandwoke-ish1181 Год назад

      The classic female weapon.

    • @mr_b_hhc
      @mr_b_hhc Год назад +1

      Very true, being passively aggressive can have a number of causes, fear of conflict, fear of violence, attempting to manipulate others psychologically, attempting to mask or thinly veil annoyance and many more. They all boil down to one thing in my experience, an inability to direct anger in a healthy way. And until humans are perfect, this is going to happen, it is just heading toward the opposite end of the spectrum from physically and aggressively lashing out at every sign of anger. The true opposite end of the spectrum being, as you alluded to, suppressing all outward signs of anger but having it fester and eat away at you internally. I think all emotions have the same scale. Take fear as an example, the slightest hint of fear can make some people have a panic response and at the other extreme, people who are terrified internally but show little to no outward signs but induce massive stress internally.

  • @soulmechanics7946
    @soulmechanics7946 2 года назад +19

    I have been watching you for a little while now, always figured your channel seemed a bit too polished, commercial in its presentation, to be working the ground war here with the rest of us, but this topic touches something vital and personal for me. Just wanted to let you know.. things are getting really rough out here, but you are an inspiration, and that is where we need the bulk of our reinforcements. 👊 Thank you for your service Sir.

  • @arturbaluyev2873
    @arturbaluyev2873 2 года назад +9

    Please level the music quieter. Sometimes it's really hard to hear your voice because of the loud music.

  • @artemismoonbow2475
    @artemismoonbow2475 2 года назад +11

    "Only a Sith deals in absolutes," says the Jedi that has an absolute prohibition on anger.

    • @saxogatley1166
      @saxogatley1166 2 года назад +9

      The phrase “only a sith deal in absolutes” is itself an absolute.

    • @spiritualanarchist8162
      @spiritualanarchist8162 2 года назад +2

      That's because they absolutely don't exist

  • @emmettobrian1874
    @emmettobrian1874 Год назад +20

    The most useful insight I've heard about anger, is that it's a secondary emotion. It never arises without the person first feeling pain or fear. So remember that the next time you see someone angry.
    On a basic level, displaying anger is often intended to cause fear. Why? Because fear is a demotivator. It's supposed to get someone to stop doing something. I'm not making a value judgement on that, just saying that it's the basic mechanism.

  • @vaunniethayer1484
    @vaunniethayer1484 Год назад +7

    Your videos are a great example of critical thinking. I also commend you on your ability to communicate and summarize such complex topics.

  • @JanefleesTexas
    @JanefleesTexas 2 года назад +12

    My favorite word for angry is “apoplectic”. 😊

  • @ShahinNe
    @ShahinNe Год назад +8

    A Breath of fresh air. I stumbled on this video and what a lucky 🍀 find can’t get enough ❤thank you 😊

  • @soulmechanics7946
    @soulmechanics7946 2 года назад +6

    It keeps getting worse. I thought it had plateaued after my Mom died.. that I had learned my lesson, leveled out and up.. but a handful of months later I am growing angry again. Angrier and angrier and angrier.. almost hateful anymore. 😔 Perhaps this is how it beats you..

    • @LincolnDWard
      @LincolnDWard Год назад +1

      Praying for peace for you ❤

    • @kathyadair8552
      @kathyadair8552 Год назад

      If the medical system failed your Mom, or others are responsible, it's understandable.
      And, some of those problems can beget others. Know that you aren't alone.
      Trauma may play a part. Fear, or criminal acts against you Both. Etc.

  • @karigrandii
    @karigrandii 2 года назад +93

    It is such a priviledge to be ”calm” in political questions and not even try and understand the other persons anger.

    • @richmrstonestone
      @richmrstonestone 2 года назад

      lol. " Privilege" ? So being calm is a privilege? I would call burning down a neighborhood without consequences because the police hurt your feelings, privilege.

    • @sisyphus_strives5463
      @sisyphus_strives5463 Год назад +3

      Perhaps anger can be justified-but the response to anger, your remedy of unjust reality, could very well be irrational.

    • @richmrstonestone
      @richmrstonestone Год назад

      Meh, it's just a cool way to be. Leftist and identity activist are high strung comedic monkeys.... entertainment purposes only

    • @joemahma3017
      @joemahma3017 Год назад +1

      @@sisyphus_strives5463rationality isn’t the gold standard or the highest ideal.

  • @nolives
    @nolives 2 года назад +15

    This channel is super under rated.

  • @futurehistory2110
    @futurehistory2110 2 года назад +9

    Anger can be good and bad, I guess it really depends. I think my anxiety around this age of anger is this feeling, this dread that it will boil over and everyone will be suddenly at war and the world will fall apart. But it does seem very unlikely for things to actually escalate to that degree. I think social media has a lot to do with it. It hasn't been good for my mental health and I'm trying to use it in a smarter way thesedays because things that never once irritated me actually do thesedays and I think that's from Facebook, Twitter, etc.

  • @sybilvane2343
    @sybilvane2343 2 года назад +6

    I really love your videos very much but at times the music is a little too intense for me and makes it hard to follow what is said. But also Im not a native english speaker and that might be the reason why Im having issues with it.

  • @karigrandii
    @karigrandii 2 года назад +7

    The best advice I got was to understand the cause of your and others anger. This has helped me eliminate almost all anger.

  • @leftykeys6944
    @leftykeys6944 Год назад +38

    Anger has its place. It is the most appropriate response in situations where our personal boundaries have been crossed.

    • @unreliablenarrator6649
      @unreliablenarrator6649 Год назад +8

      Depends on situation. Often people have personal boundaries that come in conflict with culture or situations where anger will only compound harm. Sometimes you need to stretch your boundaries or tolerate transgressions you cannot control., Put another way, some people are wound too tight for situations where their boundaries are impossible to observe.

    • @FringeWizard2
      @FringeWizard2 Год назад +5

      As someone who has been through a ton of shit and never been angry, I don't think so. You don't need to be angry to beat people or otherwise deal with their transgressions. I sometimes wonder though if maybe displaying and feeling anger could have prevented some people from toying with me so much that it had to come down to some serious corrective action.

    • @leftykeys6944
      @leftykeys6944 Год назад +2

      @@FringeWizard2 -- Bully for you.
      You can think what you like. We’re all different, and we each have our own way of responding to boundary violations. Anger is my defense, and words are my weapon of choice. Have a nice day.

    • @FringeWizard2
      @FringeWizard2 Год назад +2

      @@leftykeys6944 I don't care what you do dude I just want to know would you recommend anger for me? Should I use anger myself?

    • @leftykeys6944
      @leftykeys6944 Год назад +2

      @@FringeWizard2 -- Angry much?
      Please re-read my opening statement. Have a nice day.

  • @ashbirk4681
    @ashbirk4681 Год назад +4

    Brilliant work on the neuroscience, I love that you cited Kahneman and Damasio

  • @adamgorelick3714
    @adamgorelick3714 2 года назад +12

    Behind anger usually lurks fear. So the question becomes, why the fear? Most fear comes down to concern of losing something that is valued or not getting something that is perceived as important. Even more basic to fear is the belief that one's boundaries are being trespassed upon. The current political trends are leaning toward authoritarianism, fascism, and demagoguery as economic insecurity and lack of social cohesion take there toll. The more people fear their needs and desires are in jeopardy, the more anger manifests. Nowhere is this more apparent than in the U.S.A.; an empire in decline that, with increasing desperation, is trying to control the "narrative" through censorship and censure. Perhaps it's not too reductive to suggest that capitalism has played a major role in accelerating civilization's dissolution of the way humans had existed for most of our history - self sufficient, in small communities, with extended families and a great deal less narcissism. Capitalism tends to create a culture of selfishness, disempowerment, loneliness, and fear - all of which results in nagging psychological fear that exists independently of any external triggers that one might have control over.

  • @martijncrowe3901
    @martijncrowe3901 Год назад +2

    I always wanted to write a phenomenology of anger. its stil on the list. Thanks for the introduction. Anyhow a point not discussed is the problem of power in daily interactions. But also in political processes. When people are angry they can do things they wouldn't do if not angry. So if you are able to make somebody angry, you can use the "mistakes" to gain power. I make also in the line of Ronald Laing a different distinction. When anger is the consequence of crossing (personal) borders, it is good to use your anger (ig rape). First of alle to feel it and then act accordingly. Most people don't even feel anymore: alienation. Acting against one's own experiences. In any other case like being angry about "the foreigners," it seems to be manipulated to gain political gain. Using your anger by starting to feel it and by than using it to protect what is important to you seems to me necessary but like Althusser said: killed at school: Control your anger! Slaves of the ideology? Do we get punished for being ourselves? Maybe we can only be there if we are not there anymore. I love to be angry and show it. Even when I cannot permit it myself.

  • @elkiness
    @elkiness Год назад +8

    Again, excellent. Food for thought, a way towards clarity. I appreciate your knowledge, research and honesty.
    I was there on the March on Washington, close to MLK. One of the most moving happenings in my life. And yes, I sang "We Shall Overcome'' until hoarse. (I was 15 years old.) I did, even then, feel some amazement that while the great majority, who were black, showed no resentment -- or anger--towards my friends and I. On the contrary, if I may say it--something like love for everyone who came, all with the same beliefs. But the hoped for changes did not come, and King was murdered.
    Anger towards me as a white person I experienced later during student teaching in a mostly black school in DC. Perhaps that influenced my decision to ''make aliyah''--go up--to live in Israel, where I could contribute to my people's new homeland.
    Your video made me aware of one of the reasons I could leave the US,. I was so horrified by the Holocaust as I learned about what happened; felt such great empathy for Anne Frank, for example, that I wanted to do something. Zionism , and the ideal of the kibbutz provided a joyful ideology....but here, too there was great disillusionment.
    It's tough, living and feeling in the real world, isn't it?! ;-)

    • @reba738
      @reba738 Год назад +4

      Beautifully written, it's awful what's happening with the Palestinians at the moment. I wish it got more news coverage
      You seem to have a good soul and a rational mind.

  • @J13-h6y
    @J13-h6y 2 года назад +7

    I have to meditate daily sometimes twice a day.
    Having children has also chilled me out a lot.
    I used to fly off the handle about tiny insignificant things. Books like the Power of Now and The Untethered Soul amongst many more have helped.

    • @shrimptonpalace232
      @shrimptonpalace232 2 года назад +1

      Well done 😊

    • @jeremys1648
      @jeremys1648 2 года назад +1

      Thich Nhat Hanh books create a world hard to be angered by

  • @Prizzlesticks
    @Prizzlesticks Год назад +2

    I don't believe anger is a primary emotion for most people. That is, when someone is angry, it is usually because they're feeling something else very strongly and it is expressed as anger. When a parent screams at their child for running across the street without looking, it's because they were afraid. When a significant other starts yelling that you came home late, it probably comes from a sense of sadness they weren't considered, worry for you or for the relationship, or affront from the lack communication or respect boundaries. When an employee is angry about a pay raise refusal, it's from stress of managing expenses, hurt from not having their work valued, or maybe even disgust at the way the company values profit over people. If you get peeved at jumpscares, it's because you dislike that style of surprise.
    I find if you dig into anger, it is rarely just pure rage, for no reason. I hesitate to say that is true for all people, but at least for the majority of people I've met, that seems to be mostly true. And that differs from other emotions, because while you can get into the why or find synonymous emotions (sadness from rejection, or melancholy from a sense of chronic loneliness, or depressed from recent events), what's buried under the emotion usually not a completely different emotion. They're all the same shade, if you will, whereas anger is often vastly different from the emotion associated with the inciting incident, and what lies beneath the anger can be a wide array of other emotions.
    I don't know if that makes sense, I've had a long day and my brain is jelly in a jar rn.

  • @moxarie
    @moxarie 2 года назад +7

    You're videos are great and well thought out one of my favorite channels to watch keep it up!

  • @leftykeys6944
    @leftykeys6944 Год назад +3

    Thank you for this! An introspective, non judgmental, nuanced, thoughtful analyses of our most controversial emotion! Examining it through a cultural & historical lens was interesting too. Bravo!

  • @UnityFromDiversity
    @UnityFromDiversity Год назад +1

    Politics is downstream from culture.
    Whoever controls the past controls the future.
    Whoever controls the present controls the past.
    Whoever controls the politic controls the present.
    Whoever controls the culture controls the politic(politics=downstream from culture)
    Whoever controls the pussy controls the culture.
    Blue Pill- The belief that both genders, possessing equal natures, will on average possess equal proclivities to be moral & responsible given equal qualities & quantities of invested nurture.
    Red Pill- The awareness that men & women, having different natures, will on average possess different proclivities to be moral & responsible given equal qualities & quantities of invested nurture, & how this effects societies, micro & macro.
    Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny. -Aristotle
    The micro cycle(80 years):
    Hard times create strong men
    Strong men create good times
    Good times create baby boomers
    Baby boomers create hard times...
    The macro cycle(800-1200 years):
    Hard times create patriarchy(where rights are dependent on responsibilities, since men usually take more responsibilities than women this system is described as patriarchy)
    Patriarchy creates good times
    Good times creates feminism(equal rights independent of responsibilities)
    Feminism burns everything down, creating hard times...
    To Adam God said, "Because YOU LISTENED TO YOUR WIFE & ate from the tree about which I commanded you not to:
    Cursed is the ground because of you, through painful toil you will eat of it, all the days of your life."
    -Genesis 3:17
    Man's hiearchy of needs:
    1 Safety
    2 Food & Water
    3 Shelter & Sleep
    4 Social & Sexual needs
    5 Communal & self esteem needs
    6 Self Actualization
    In every category of need in men's hierarchy, women's needs are met better in society, yet every election women vote to take more from men and give more to themselves?!
    Women's hiearchy of needs:
    1 Equality of Opportunity
    2 Equality of Outcome
    3 Equality of Authority
    4 Equal Authority with no Responsibility
    5 All the Authority with no Responsibility for the women, with all the Responsibilities & no Authority for the man or men(especially sexual Responsibilities & Authorities).
    A tyrant has 100% authority with 0% responsibility.
    A slave has 100% responsibility with 0% authority.
    Today marriage, as redefined by the female democratic majority and family court system, makes the man a slave to a tyrant wife, who can divorce him at will, stealing his children, his wealth, and his human dignity.
    All womens natural unregulated desire is to have sex with high status bad bad boys and get innocent men to pay for the responsibility consequences(abortions, kids ect.). That's why women, no matter how meritocratic, should never vote.
    Women want equal rights authority to make all the decisions in their own life when the alpha f*cks opportunity is there. Its when responsibility slowly comes knocking that women want to shift responsibility back over to innocent men. Women want to sit at the poker table of the socio-sexual market place & make bets & authorize promises in the hundreds of thousands in reproductive costs when they can only actually back up a few pennies worth of responsibility. If women CAN'T take responsibility for a authorization, then they CAN'T have equal authority/rights as the guy who can.
    Show me a man who takes by force what he wants from women and I'll show you 100 women who vote to take by force what they want from men. Show me a grave created by patriarchy and Ill show you an entire graveyard created by feminism/communism.
    "Any society that negates the role of the father in the voluntarily marriage contract from decent civilization building men and replaces it with a involuntary centralized welfare state will not remain civilized for long."

  • @nopasaran191
    @nopasaran191 2 года назад +10

    Anger produces lots of great art. And people are right to be angry.

  • @ThenNow
    @ThenNow  2 года назад +33

    Script & sources at: www.thenandnow.co/2023/05/26/our-age-of-anger/
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    • @tnix80
      @tnix80 2 года назад +1

      This would be better content if left wing ideological spin was left out

    • @HermeticallyHermeticThricGreat
      @HermeticallyHermeticThricGreat 2 года назад

      Hello you beautiful soul 🌹 I'm looking for like-minded people to talk to, and bounce some ideas off of. Please reach out 😌 if you're interested in conversation outside The narrative.

    • @TheFriendlyAnarchist
      @TheFriendlyAnarchist Год назад +1

      Hey, Practicing Buddhist here. Buddhism doesn’t support the Status Quo. Very much the opposite.
      Some of my favorite quotes from Daisaku Ikeda:
      “It is the function of evil to divide; to alienate people from each other and divide one country from another. The universe, this world and our own lives, are the stage for a ceaseless struggle between hatred and compassion, the destructive and constructive aspects of life. In the end, the evil over which we must triumph is the impulse toward hatred and destruction that resides in us all.”
      “Those who fail to fight against the devilish nature of authority fall victim to it themselves”
      “Only by confronting,
      exposing, breaking open
      the pompous, poison-scented hearts
      of those who wield power--
      only in this way
      will genuine peace
      be given the chance
      to live and breathe,
      in seen and unseen ways.”

    • @robertschwartz6897
      @robertschwartz6897 Год назад

      thank you for all of your insight and hard work.

    • @robertdegruchy160
      @robertdegruchy160 Год назад +1

      I may be missing something here but I am not seeing any particularly left wing spin in the content. I am not enraged if there is any.The Jan.6 crowd did present an irrational out of control angEr.

  • @TheDonLemonSnickety
    @TheDonLemonSnickety 10 месяцев назад +1

    The slow computer is key to it all. How much time are we frustrated by crap not working or getting Locked out of accounts? I blame premature iOS updates for Ferguson and 9/11.

  • @arizonakaren
    @arizonakaren 8 месяцев назад +1

    I just watched four of your productions. I'm so impressed with the references to ancient philosophy. I subscribed, and then I joined.
    Anger has been useful as fuel for me to leave an abusive relationship. I held onto that anger until I finally moved out. Letting go of the anger took a while, but I managed to release it through therapy.

  • @mileswilliams9737
    @mileswilliams9737 Год назад +1

    On mlk and Malcom x - King admitted his own efforts would have been met with a heavier hand if it was not for the fact that Malcom X was the other camp, the authorities didn't want to push people towards X.
    King wrote a number of letters to Malcom and said as much a number of times, even questioning if Malcom didn't have the right idea, basically saying "however, I am who I am. A preacher" as to why he was continuing to be non violent

  • @soulmechanics7946
    @soulmechanics7946 2 года назад +1

    No. 😡 The solution absolutely IS NOT to ignore it and to become indifferent to the world. You are angry for a reason. Fight back.

  • @ppike__
    @ppike__ Год назад +1

    Something activists must consider is who and and what historically has actually had the greatest postive impact. Its rarely those who make the loudest noise but instead those who raise evidence based awareness and develope alternatives and real solutions. Of course the revolutions gain our attention in the histoty books but they ultimately come down to who won the battle, not what works best. They are also extremely vulnerable to being hijacked, corrupted, divisive and creating 'in' culture, passing on an inheritance of trauma. Although neccessary when facing a violent oppressor, such action will not solve the climate crisis for example, where scientists have done far more to raise awareness, provide data, solutions and strategies than any activists. And so rather than stealing the spotlight with symbols of anger, why not give these scientists the spotlight? aid the transfer of truth and employ emotion that is focussed on much needed communication.

  • @sharongillesp
    @sharongillesp Год назад +1

    Unfortunately, western thinking has basically one word for anger when, in fact, their definitions are different and should have different words. Language must continue to grow.

  • @nigelralphmurphy9565
    @nigelralphmurphy9565 2 года назад +1

    Do animals get angry? If not, why not? If we humans are the only sentient creatures on this planet that get angry (and jealous, spiteful, petty, lying, hateful and on the flip side, love) why that?

  • @who034
    @who034 Год назад +1

    I had a good laugh listening to your video. I think a better use of your time might be in taking a marketing course especially in regards to selling and advertising. I never once heard you mention the term or idea of manipulation. Because you mention injustice, well I must point out that and you didn't, that white nationalists are very angry people and feel a sense of injustice and have made a plan from this just as many civil rights leaders developed a plan to their ideas on the injustice they feel. People can't stay in constant state of one emotion or another, which is what "anger" is, an emotion. There are many emotions and no one is in a constant state of any of them. The emotions need a constant retriggering by a manipulative goal seeker.. or seller as it really is who has the plan of accomplishment they need others to adhere to their product. You provided not just a comparison of apples and oranges but provided a whole fruit bowl which you tipped over on the ideas about anger.

  • @patrickparson9628
    @patrickparson9628 2 года назад +6

    It's all Ben Stiller's fault. Watching his cameo on friends taught me how to rage at an early age.

    • @FINNSTIGAT0R
      @FINNSTIGAT0R 2 года назад +1

      He was also Mr. Furious in the film Mystery Men.
      His superpower in the superhero group depicted in the film was being really angry 😡

    • @natalyawoop4263
      @natalyawoop4263 Год назад

      I blame Ben Stiller for more than just anger. I blame him for almost everything

  • @unreliablenarrator6649
    @unreliablenarrator6649 Год назад +1

    When a party or person injures you, anger is about injustice and/or harm. The trick is to stop & think about scale & outcomes.

  • @nestorar
    @nestorar 2 года назад +4

    Thank you for these videos. Also, congratulations on the production and usage of classical music. You are contributing to a better world!

  • @sabar2453
    @sabar2453 9 месяцев назад +1

    Aquinas took alot of his thought from Ghazali, who had studied the Philosophers in depth

  • @leeyahwehson2753
    @leeyahwehson2753 Год назад +1

    The English language is horrible at explaining because the translations are often convoluted

  • @TennesseeJed
    @TennesseeJed 2 года назад +2

    The carrot on a string is made of plastic, and knowing that perpetuates a lot of anger.

  • @KevinJLenard
    @KevinJLenard Год назад +1

    Yikes! That is one LOUD music track! I'm out....

  • @planlosubertroffen2282
    @planlosubertroffen2282 Год назад +1

    Thank you.
    This opened me a Door.🚪
    Im ready to walk through it.
    much love from me ❤️,keep on.

  • @carlosperez5054
    @carlosperez5054 2 года назад +1

    Anger is a response to the inability to cope or express pain(physical or psychological). Anything that can cause pain(physical or psychological-i.e.fear, sadness, shame...etc) can be transmuted psychologically to anger and anger to violence. It is considered sign of emotional immaturity and disdained by psychologically matured cultures. Buddhism is more equipped to explain because it is the most psychologically mature ideology conceived(anger to hate to violence to suffering to anger...). You just need to translate the old language to modern psychological language and it explains more. Anger can override frontal lobes making people irrational temporarily one reason may be because our ancestors required to move without thinking maybe due to predication(flight or fight). Of course a combination of reasons most probable. Emotions help archive information and behavioral algorithms. You can program your reaction to pain and avoid anger. Pain is fuel for anger. Thank you for another thought provoking video! Excellent job!

  • @owen_nx
    @owen_nx 2 года назад +1

    you could have called it "age of rage". missed chance.

  • @hatoffnickel
    @hatoffnickel 2 года назад +1

    Sin comes from Man, not the devil. Satan capitalizes on Man's God-given capacity to either hit or miss the mark

  • @Sam-nd7us
    @Sam-nd7us 2 года назад +1

    The way I think about it is anger is good if it stems from inner morals and not clouded judgement (IE seeing something wrong and wanting to change it because you believe it should be changed) . Anger is bad when it has an external source and clouded or split second judgement (IE some dingus saying something dumb when drunk and punching him).

  • @Kurkumator
    @Kurkumator Год назад +1

    The loud annoying stupid music made me angry.

  • @Johnconno
    @Johnconno 2 года назад +1

    I'm not angry, just disappointed.

  • @IndustrialBonecraft
    @IndustrialBonecraft 2 года назад +2

    It's justified WHEN I FUCKING TELL YOU IT IS!

  • @env0x
    @env0x 2 года назад +1

    God of the old testament was the first one to experience anger. bcuz some naked dude he made out of clay ate one of his apples.