She is probably one of the big reasons why soooo many little girls wanted to become a gymnast after the 1996 Olympics. She's a legend in the sport and her grace, humility, artistry, determination, among other things are some of the reasons why people love her!! She lead the way for Carly, Nastia, Shawn, Gabby, Aly, Jordan, Simone, etc. Respect for this legend!!
@@andreataylor4483 that’s why she’s so awesome, because to look at her she always had a fragility about her, looked shy and demure but was definitely a fighter
she dodged a major bullet not having to go to that sh*tshow of an olympics, but yes, with her, they would have easily gotten bronze at least. what a disaster
They could have also used her leadership and competition focus. People usually forget that during compulsories, the Mag 7 almost fell apart. Bars was so-so, and beam was nearly a disaster. Kerri Strug was unusually shaky. Amanda Borden and Dominique Dawes had noticeable troubles. Jaycee Phelps fell. Shannon Miller was up next and showed what steely nerves looks like. Close to perfection. It seemed like the entire team let out the breath they’d been holding, and Moceanu was solid anchoring beam. They did well through the rest of compulsories. And then they Lit. It. Up. in team finals. ❤️
This lady is definitely one of my favourite Gymnasts.🎖️ She comes across as being a decent humble person also.💜 I sincerely hope that she is well...21 years on.👍 Sent from 🏴
Her opening mount and dismount are gorgeous. Her wolf jumps are perfect. Not so many gymnasts can do a perfect one like hers. And her turns are the best. I've never seen her flinched on her turns. I'm quite sure she could have done triple turns perfectly if she had wanted to. She is one of my favorites of all time.❤
@@2010hotmale2010 I think they’re right, this routine performed as intended would be a 9.9 I think? Pike and wolf jumps were Bs in this code, and combined with fronts (Ds) they got .2 in CV. So an E dismount would be the extra tenth she needed for a 10. But was she even training it?
Always liked Shannon. She was with her coach since age 8. I didn't know she tried out for the 2000 games. She will always be my favorite gymnast! So talented, so many medals.
Totally agree. Miller is the American Gymnast that everyone loves. She was so different from any other of her era, beautifully classical and stylish. What a star, and now has turned into a SUPERB commentator who should easily replace The evil NBC trio.
Looking at the mess of the USA team in Sydney, it seems that Shannon could have contributed on beam and bars. Cleaning up a few things, and this could have been a great routine. Shannon does well with international judges due to her clean form.
Dustin Gabe Shannon was rock solid in team competitions. She did not have a reputation for errors under pressure. You want a hit set you put up Shannon Miller. Wrists, elbows, back, ankles-doesn’t matter. For the record, I’m not saying that is right but that’s the truth of that time period.
Dustin Gabe you’re assuming she will be doing these exact routines? I think they would have adjusted to work the code. But hey guess what??? We will never know because it was decades ago and Sydney gymnastics was unfortunately a flop.
She is a serious contender for an individual medal in the Olympics and she's showing difficulty she didn't have in her peak. If you count success by medals then yes, I have to agree, most gymnast are not as succesful at their 25 as they were when they were 17 (exept Chusovitina and Tweddle). But helping your team is a success as well. And after all is not only about the medals, the love for the sport and competitions is enough to keep someone competing
Miller 2000 trials BB front tuck mount (D) pike jump (B) switch leap ( C) back dive to hdstd w/ ¼ turn( C) front tuck (D)- wolfe jump (B) FF step out -(B) layout ( C) - layout (NV duplicate element ) Back dive to handstand w/ ¼ turn (NV duplicate element) Valdez (A) 1/1 turn (A) Sissone (A)- tuck jump (A) Round off(B)-double tuck(D) Value Parts (Chronological): A: valdez B: pike jump B: wolfe jump C: switch leap C: back dive to handstand w/ ¼ turn D: front tuck mount Special Requirements: Acrobatic series minimum two flight elements FF step out -(B) layout ( C) Gymnastics series of two elements Sissone (A)- tuck jump (A) One mixed gym/acro (no Group 4 or 5) switch leap ( C) back dive to hdstd w/ ¼ turn( C) One turn on one foot minimum 360° 1/1 turn (A) One gymnastics leap w/ large amplitude Sissone (A) One movement touching beam with torso Yes Dismount at least C, minimum D in EF. double tuck(D) Extra Ds/Es:(0.2) front tuck (D) double tuck(D) Connections:(0.7) front tuck (D)- pike jump (B) (0.2) switch leap ( C) back dive to hdstd w/ ¼ turn( C) (0.2) front tuck (D)- wolfe jump (B) (0.2) FF step out -(B) layout ( C) - layout (0.1) SV: 9.90 pts.
Amy Chow did the same thing I remember them saying back then she had only been in the gym like 2-3 months prior the olympic trials and she got on. Speaking of Amy she like Dawes, never got their dues, both very underrated gymnasts
Basically there were huge problems with the routine construction... Even if they had received the credit they were looking for, From what I can tell, this still would have only had a start value of 9.9... Then when you factor the judges didnt credit "The Miller" move with what they were expecting, and throw in the huge balance check after the layout, 9.287 is a fair score. Basically Nunno was not good at understanding the Code of points. If he did his research, he would have found that shannon needed an additional D skill that doesn't count for bonus under this code... And there were Many other potential combinations She could have attempted to start from 10... I love Shannon And I know she is loyal to Nunno, But at this point in her career she needed different things out of a couch. She needed somebody to help strategize and work the code to build smarter routines...and she needed smarter training to avoid injuries... she waited too long to comeback. It was too late in the game at this competition to do any of these things.
Shannon in my opinion was a strong letter to Syndey, she had a UB and BB routine that to be honest were incredible and she was a girl with too much elegance, I love her routines, without a doubt she would have contributed a lot to the United States team
@@2010hotmale2010Apparently Beam's start value was due to some composition issues she was not aware of. She probably had skills in her repertoire to fix that with proper consultation, and the full-in dismount would have helped in that respect. However, because she started the comeback somewhat late, the leg events fell behind a little too much (contributing to that vault injury). Would have made a nice pair with Atler, who could still do well on the leg events but had issues on Bars and Beam.
It’s very challenging for female gymnasts to adapt their routines to their physical changes and to remain competitive. Shannon has a very different body here than she did in Atlanta, which was different from her childlike body in Barcelona.
Year 2024 ...where is Shannon Miller now....How did our Indian Film Makers didn't notice her when she won gold medals.She is a real beauty queen...( nandan, nityanand, mudbhatkal of Hubli City, Karnataka State, INDIA,)17/07/2024, wednesday,
True. I got the impression with Miller she was dreaming of 1992-1996 level glory again and it was never going to happen. Then again I could be wrong and she was just hoping to help a weak U.S team. I forgot Beth Tweddle but she always kept competing so wasnt making a "comeback" at an older age per say. Khorkina did win AA silver in Athens but was a shadow of her old self, was lucky the field was super weak was probably overmarked due to name and robbed a more deserving gymnast.
I think Boguinskaya also made a comeback as well. She was absent for a couple years and returned back into top form by 96 making a splash at Europeans, qualifying for the 96 Olympics where she made the all around and vault finals. Had she stuck her second vault she would have medaled
I forget what exactly happened, but I recall nuno forgot about some rule and they omitted an element which caused her. 5 tenths. In hindsight it could have been fixed if she did another miller.
The score could be easily explained by someone simply looking at the Code of Points and calculating the SV, rather than making wild guesses. Front Tuck + Pike Jump = D + B = 0 (required D) + .20 CV (generous of the judges to count that skill as a pike jump considering how far she was from meeting the skill's requirements) Switch Leap + Back Dive 1/4 = C + C = .10 CV Front Tuck + Wolf Jump = D + B = .10 + .20 CV BHS + LSO + LSO = B + C + C = + .10 CV (lucky to have not received enough deductions to cost her the bonus entirely) Back Dive 1/4 + 1/2 Pirouette in Handstand = C = 0 (repeated element, not eligible for any bonus even if she had done this in combination) RO + Double Tuck = B + D = .10 + 0 CV (minimum of 3 elements required for a dismount series to earn bonus) SV = .20 from elements, .60 from connections = 9.80 SV Had Nunno read a COP and realized the "Miller" was not (and never has been) a real element and was thus considered a Back Dive 1/4, he could have easily found a substitution to get her SV to 10.0. 1) I would have changed the pike jump in the mount to a beat jump, sacrificing .10 in difficulty for the better execution. (9.70 SV) 2) Changing the switch leap to a straddle jump would have earned the same .10 CV, while leaving the switch leap open for a 2nd connection. (9.70 SV) 3) A switch leap + B level jump (Straddle 1/4, Split 1/4, Wolf 1/2...) would then earn an additional .10 in CV (9.80 SV) 4) A D level jump after the switch leap (Switch Side, Switch Side to prone, Shushunova 3/4, Wolf 3/4...) would have earned the entire .30 in bonus she would have needed (.10 for the D, .20 for the connection) (10.0 SV) Other options (some needing to be mixed or added to get the .20 missing) included: 1) Beat Jump + Shushunova 3/4 (.30 total bonus) 2) A RO + BHS + Double Back (.30 total bonus) 3) Switch Side to prone (.10 in bonus) 4) Wolf Jump 3/4 (.10 on bonus) 5) Front Aerial + Shushunova 1/4 (.10 in bonus) 6) Popa + Beat Jump (.30 total bonus)
Additionally, the deductions in the exercise include: 1) .05 - .10 for the leg position in the Pike Jump 2) .10 for the arm bends on the Back Dive 1/4 3) .20 for the bobble on the LSO 4) .10 for the dismount That's already a 9.30 and she could have easily been hit more severely for the LSO, losing ~.30 and thus losing the .10 CV for a 9.10 total score.
Hi there, Was a D required/free in the AA and then two required/free in the EF? Just like in the 96 code? So did you need, essentially .9 in bonus and 1.0 in bonus in the AA and EF, respectively? Also, I think CC was 0.2 in the COP.
Notice she did the "Miller" differently this time around. She held it for two seconds. She never did that before. I think they probably intended on resubmitting the skill.
She missed the front tuck mount + wolf jump combination (slight hesitation). Because of that the initial wolf jump counted as part of the "interior" of the routine rather than part of the mount. When she performed her front tuck + wolf jump combo later, she also missed that connection (again, slight hesitation... the judges were being brutal). It wouldn't have counted even if she made it: they wouldn't have factored in the second wolf jump. So that's already 4 tenths in connection bonus she missed. Plus the minor errors with the rest of the routine... Yeah... It was a fair score.
Routine was out of a 9.8 and the big wobble after the 2nd layout was at least a .4 deduction plus small hop on dismount .1th so she's down to a 9.3 already
I wonder if Shannon considered going to another coach when making this comeback. Just because its pretty remarkable how long she was with Nunno. Many gymnasts switch at some point
In her new autobiography, which im reading now, she says that she was only going to make a comeback if Steve Nunno would coach her. In fact, her husband at that time had to move to Houston for his med school residency, so it would have been easier on her marriage to train with a club in Houston.
+kras118 As smart she is/was, Miller had horrible judgment in sticking with Nunno. She won medals in spite of him, not because of him. His routine construction cost her even more success in 1995, 1996, and 2000. She should have never been struggling to find a consistent 10.0 SV on FX in the 96-00 COP even with injury limiting her available skills to choose from. The front double full in 1995 and double layout in 1996 were clearly never going to be consistent elements and were not worth the risk. And, the order of passes and several of the combinations he chose throughout that quad were asinine. Whip + BHS + Tuck Full-In; Rudi + BHS + LSO; Tuck Full-In; Whip 1/2 + Front Full + Front Tuck with D level dance elements (Cat Leap Double, Popa) would have been a safe, consistent routine using skills and combinations she had done, and done well. Meanwhile, she should have perfected one of the Phelps, 1.5TY, or DTY by Atlanta since she had been training them for 3+ years, and her UB routine should have never relied on a double layout for a 10 SV. In 2000, he failed her on VT and BB. It was evident from fall 1999 - Sydney team finals that these were the two weaknesses of team USA. A 1.5TY + Phelps would have been a great addition to the lineup, and while I realize her injury prevented her from training this event, it was clear she was maxing out at Hristakieva + FTY. I can only assume he was also under the false impression that her 2nd back dive 1/4 on beam was considered a back dive 1/4 + hop 1/1 pirouette to handstand, and in the COP as an E level skill, costing her .20 in SV on that event.
The judges were very stingy with Miller's beam performance here, in my opinion. The score they gave her was quite low for just that one balance check. The remainder of her routine was graceful, elegant and flawless. I think she should have had a 9.6.
That's true, Khorkina is the only all around medalist over 20 I can remember. There were others too, like Tourischeva but that was when gymnastics was a totally different sport. Hatch and Bhardwaj (one of my all time fav american gymnasts) are indeed rare examples, same goes to Tweddle but there are other cases as well. Zamolodchikova for example definately reached her peak at Sydney and she never had the 2000 success but she was a rock for the russian team when they didn't have lots of depth.
I totally agree with a lot of the other comments. Talk about being shaken up before competiting! ...that would unnerve any performance. I wanted Shannon at the olympics more than anything.
Umm, what she means is that Galiyeva's family was one of those relocated from Russia to Uzbekistan during the Stalin era to maintain Russian cultural dominance throughout the Soviet Union. That's what she means by saying that she was born is Uzbekistan but was ethnically Russian.
@Titannu Like I already said Chusovitina is not an all around gymast like Miller. She is only a vault specialist which is totally different. Actually in her prime she used to be a floor specialist too and a decent all arounder but she is not even close to either of those things anymore and hasnt for many years which only proves my point. Hatch the other oldie who made a successful comeback (for her) was also a vault specialist.
@gymnfanus19972000 actually true that is a good point. I guess she and Hatch are the only two gymnasts (atleast that I know of unless there are more) that returned after long retirements to do better than ever. Thanks for pointing that out. Still I think it would be almost impossible for an AA superstar to do so.
@moopoo66 she was not really coming back since she was never retired. In 2000 she was coming back after almost 4 years off and 23 years old. It wasnt the same.
I do believe Svetlana Horkina (forgive my spelling, I don't remember exactly how to spell the last name) competed in three olympics, I do believe. At any rate, she was 27 at the 2004 games and got either bronze or Silver in the AA, which is pretty legit.
That late judge is so disrespectful. If an athlete was late to the competition they’d go on without them but no have to make exceptions and let this rude woman waltz in with all smiles. I think if a judge is late like that then they should have to get some sort of penalty because it’s not fair to make the athletes wait even longer and get more anxious with anticipation.
Any women in there 30’s have the VHS tape “ Americas Best volume 2) I watched it over and over and over and over and over again as a level 8 gymnast and a little 9 year old wanting to be just like her and Dominique Dawes
@tmwalkerm They actually said that Steve Nunno thinks that if she hits perfect she could go 9.8. If she would have hit all of her connections it would have been out of a 10.
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She is probably one of the big reasons why soooo many little girls wanted to become a gymnast after the 1996 Olympics. She's a legend in the sport and her grace, humility, artistry, determination, among other things are some of the reasons why people love her!! She lead the way for Carly, Nastia, Shawn, Gabby, Aly, Jordan, Simone, etc. Respect for this legend!!
My sister went to school with Shannon Miller.
@@angelablack7946 that's cool!!
Let's not forget about Dominique Dawes, who made this 2000 team.
@@0xTRellyx0 And Amy Chow
It was Olga Korbut for me but that dates me 😂
Shannon Miller the best American gymnast ever. She had grace, beauty, and elegance. Influenced a whole generation of young girls into gymnastics
Agreed! Grace, poise, elegance and exceptional form.
She is the epitome of grace. What so many gymnasts these days lack.
Always loved Shannon..She was one of the best athletes of all time and such a sweet person.
For those who don't know...
Shannon is an Ovarian cancer survivor
The form on the miller and her dismount was gorgeous.
She’s the best! Always impressive. Even when she made mistakes she would fight back every event and end up winning
Amazing gymnast, but also had very, very tough mental fitness as well.
@@andreataylor4483 that’s why she’s so awesome, because to look at her she always had a fragility about her, looked shy and demure but was definitely a fighter
Beautiful style, precision & poise from toes to every finger tip...
Shannon has always been my favorite gymnast.🤸
I Love her so much! She will always be my favorite!
Mine too!
Team USA definitely could've used Shannon on bars and beam in Sydney.
she dodged a major bullet not having to go to that sh*tshow of an olympics, but yes, with her, they would have easily gotten bronze at least. what a disaster
For real
They could have also used her leadership and competition focus. People usually forget that during compulsories, the Mag 7 almost fell apart. Bars was so-so, and beam was nearly a disaster. Kerri Strug was unusually shaky. Amanda Borden and Dominique Dawes had noticeable troubles. Jaycee Phelps fell.
Shannon Miller was up next and showed what steely nerves looks like. Close to perfection. It seemed like the entire team let out the breath they’d been holding, and Moceanu was solid anchoring beam. They did well through the rest of compulsories.
And then they Lit. It. Up. in team finals. ❤️
This lady is definitely one of my favourite Gymnasts.🎖️
She comes across as being a decent humble person also.💜
I sincerely hope that she is well...21 years on.👍
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always loved shannon miller...she was an amazing gymnast
Me too
The fact that they made her wait she she nailed it is amazing 👏🏻
I love her artistry! ❤❤❤
My favorite gymnast. She is athletic but graceful. So poised.
Shannon Miller . The greatest ever female gymnast manufactured by the USA.. Love her so much
Yes, unless you look at pesky little details like results and medals.
Shannon will always be one of the best ❤
I love the sound of the beam^^
Her opening mount and dismount are gorgeous. Her wolf jumps are perfect. Not so many gymnasts can do a perfect one like hers. And her turns are the best. I've never seen her flinched on her turns. I'm quite sure she could have done triple turns perfectly if she had wanted to. She is one of my favorites of all time.❤
Shannon showed aggression and stamina here. Loved the "Miller".Had she also done her full-in , this routine would've been valued out of a 10.
The full-in only would have given 0.1 extra… so 9.8 SV, no 10.0 SV
@@2010hotmale2010 I think they’re right, this routine performed as intended would be a 9.9 I think? Pike and wolf jumps were Bs in this code, and combined with fronts (Ds) they got .2 in CV. So an E dismount would be the extra tenth she needed for a 10. But was she even training it?
Always liked Shannon. She was with her coach since age 8. I didn't know she tried out for the 2000 games. She will always be my favorite gymnast! So talented, so many medals.
I've always loved her wolf jumps. So few gymnasts perform them well.
Which one is the wolf jump?
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Totally agree. Miller is the American Gymnast that everyone loves. She was so different from any other of her era, beautifully classical and stylish. What a star, and now has turned into a SUPERB commentator who should easily replace The evil NBC trio.
She was the absolute best gymnast of the 1990’s.
Her, Khorkina, Podkopayeva all have a strong argument.
So solid. Love watching Shannon on beam.
LEGEND EMPRESS GODESS QUEEN OF GYMNASTICS PERIOD.
I've always loved Shannon she was good at what she did she deserves a props but she's not the best in the world she was good for her time
Such poise under pressure! Incredible.
Shannon Miller, still love you from Hungary.
I love the relationship between steve nuno and shannon
Shannon is steadier on one foot standing on a 4-inch wide beam than I am standing on solid ground with both.
Another favorite..Excellent!
I love her beam performance!
"Even tho' she didn't qualify in 2000,she was still a true champion,and talent with 7 Olympic medals,and #1 in my heart!!"💯👏♥️♥️♥️
Looking at the mess of the USA team in Sydney, it seems that Shannon could have contributed on beam and bars. Cleaning up a few things, and this could have been a great routine. Shannon does well with international judges due to her clean form.
totally agree. Shannon had such an amazing talent on the bars and beam especially.
Dustin Gabe Miller was an amazing competitor! I fully believe she would have gave it 💯 in Sydney-I would want her on my team.🤩
Dustin Gabe Shannon was rock solid in team competitions. She did not have a reputation for errors under pressure. You want a hit set you put up Shannon Miller. Wrists, elbows, back, ankles-doesn’t matter. For the record, I’m not saying that is right but that’s the truth of that time period.
Dustin Gabe you’re assuming she will be doing these exact routines? I think they would have adjusted to work the code. But hey guess what??? We will never know because it was decades ago and Sydney gymnastics was unfortunately a flop.
Dustin Gabe but she’s Shannon fucking Miller 🎤
She is a serious contender for an individual medal in the Olympics and she's showing difficulty she didn't have in her peak. If you count success by medals then yes, I have to agree, most gymnast are not as succesful at their 25 as they were when they were 17 (exept Chusovitina and Tweddle). But helping your team is a success as well. And after all is not only about the medals, the love for the sport and competitions is enough to keep someone competing
I've always wondered about the late arriving judge lol
I mean I'm always a little late to things but this is just embarrassing on National TV lol And forever on the internet.
She was getting boned in the locker room you can tell
That routine deserved 9.5
I have always loved her coach!
but i also believe amy chow never really stopped conditioning after 96 and was able to maintain all her skills
She is so elegant a lot of athletes are very robot like in their moves on the beam.
ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS ❤️
Miller 2000 trials BB
front tuck mount (D) pike jump (B)
switch leap ( C) back dive to hdstd w/ ¼ turn( C)
front tuck (D)- wolfe jump (B)
FF step out -(B) layout ( C) - layout (NV duplicate element )
Back dive to handstand w/ ¼ turn (NV duplicate element)
Valdez (A)
1/1 turn (A)
Sissone (A)- tuck jump (A)
Round off(B)-double tuck(D)
Value Parts (Chronological):
A: valdez
B: pike jump
B: wolfe jump
C: switch leap
C: back dive to handstand w/ ¼ turn
D: front tuck mount
Special Requirements:
Acrobatic series minimum two flight elements
FF step out -(B) layout ( C)
Gymnastics series of two elements
Sissone (A)- tuck jump (A)
One mixed gym/acro (no Group 4 or 5)
switch leap ( C) back dive to hdstd w/ ¼ turn( C)
One turn on one foot minimum 360°
1/1 turn (A)
One gymnastics leap w/ large amplitude
Sissone (A)
One movement touching beam with torso
Yes
Dismount at least C, minimum D in EF.
double tuck(D)
Extra Ds/Es:(0.2)
front tuck (D)
double tuck(D)
Connections:(0.7)
front tuck (D)- pike jump (B) (0.2)
switch leap ( C) back dive to hdstd w/ ¼ turn( C) (0.2)
front tuck (D)- wolfe jump (B) (0.2)
FF step out -(B) layout ( C) - layout (0.1)
SV: 9.90 pts.
Let's go, Shannon Miller!
She is so talented!
Straight fire 🔥
Amy Chow did the same thing I remember them saying back then she had only been in the gym like 2-3 months prior the olympic trials and she got on. Speaking of Amy she like Dawes, never got their dues, both very underrated gymnasts
Amy Chow actually never did stop training after 1996, unlike her other teammates...
The cool thing about Chow, she can do like 15 other amazing things, lol
I don’t think Dawes was underrated at that time. There were just soo many good gymnast in the 90s.
That score seemed ridiculously low...
Basically there were huge problems with the routine construction... Even if they had received the credit they were looking for, From what I can tell, this still would have only had a start value of 9.9... Then when you factor the judges didnt credit "The Miller" move with what they were expecting, and throw in the huge balance check after the layout, 9.287 is a fair score. Basically Nunno was not good at understanding the Code of points. If he did his research, he would have found that shannon needed an additional D skill that doesn't count for bonus under this code... And there were Many other potential combinations She could have attempted to start from 10... I love Shannon And I know she is loyal to Nunno, But at this point in her career she needed different things out of a couch. She needed somebody to help strategize and work the code to build smarter routines...and she needed smarter training to avoid injuries... she waited too long to comeback. It was too late in the game at this competition to do any of these things.
I love the way coach nuno supports her.
I know she didn't make the team but WOW that was FANTASTIC!
I love Shannon
"Somebody didn't get the memo." LOL. Come on, people! This is the Olympic Trials.
Shannon in my opinion was a strong letter to Syndey, she had a UB and BB routine that to be honest were incredible and she was a girl with too much elegance, I love her routines, without a doubt she would have contributed a lot to the United States team
No! Vault SV was 9.55 avg, bars SV 10, beam 9.7 SV, floor 9.7 SV… she had very non-competitive routines at the time
@@2010hotmale2010Apparently Beam's start value was due to some composition issues she was not aware of. She probably had skills in her repertoire to fix that with proper consultation, and the full-in dismount would have helped in that respect. However, because she started the comeback somewhat late, the leg events fell behind a little too much (contributing to that vault injury). Would have made a nice pair with Atler, who could still do well on the leg events but had issues on Bars and Beam.
It’s very challenging for female gymnasts to adapt their routines to their physical changes and to remain competitive. Shannon has a very different body here than she did in Atlanta, which was different from her childlike body in Barcelona.
I agree with everything you said
Awesome!
Agreed!!
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Year 2024 ...where is Shannon Miller now....How did our Indian Film Makers didn't notice her when she won gold medals.She is a real beauty queen...( nandan, nityanand, mudbhatkal of Hubli City, Karnataka State, INDIA,)17/07/2024, wednesday,
True. I got the impression with Miller she was dreaming of 1992-1996 level glory again and it was never going to happen. Then again I could be wrong and she was just hoping to help a weak U.S team. I forgot Beth Tweddle but she always kept competing so wasnt making a "comeback" at an older age per say. Khorkina did win AA silver in Athens but was a shadow of her old self, was lucky the field was super weak was probably overmarked due to name and robbed a more deserving gymnast.
Exactly.
Fantástico!
I hate that beam it's like, hollow or something
I miss these kinds of beam entrances.
I think Boguinskaya also made a comeback as well. She was absent for a couple years and returned back into top form by 96 making a splash at Europeans, qualifying for the 96 Olympics where she made the all around and vault finals. Had she stuck her second vault she would have medaled
Why didn't I see this before? I mean, Alicia does a front pike mount and does another front pike later on...but thanks for clearing that up!
I forget what exactly happened, but I recall nuno forgot about some rule and they omitted an element which caused her. 5 tenths. In hindsight it could have been fixed if she did another miller.
just brilliant
The score could be easily explained by someone simply looking at the Code of Points and calculating the SV, rather than making wild guesses.
Front Tuck + Pike Jump = D + B = 0 (required D) + .20 CV (generous of the judges to count that skill as a pike jump considering how far she was from meeting the skill's requirements)
Switch Leap + Back Dive 1/4 = C + C = .10 CV
Front Tuck + Wolf Jump = D + B = .10 + .20 CV
BHS + LSO + LSO = B + C + C = + .10 CV (lucky to have not received enough deductions to cost her the bonus entirely)
Back Dive 1/4 + 1/2 Pirouette in Handstand = C = 0 (repeated element, not eligible for any bonus even if she had done this in combination)
RO + Double Tuck = B + D = .10 + 0 CV (minimum of 3 elements required for a dismount series to earn bonus)
SV = .20 from elements, .60 from connections = 9.80 SV
Had Nunno read a COP and realized the "Miller" was not (and never has been) a real element and was thus considered a Back Dive 1/4, he could have easily found a substitution to get her SV to 10.0.
1) I would have changed the pike jump in the mount to a beat jump, sacrificing .10 in difficulty for the better execution. (9.70 SV)
2) Changing the switch leap to a straddle jump would have earned the same .10 CV, while leaving the switch leap open for a 2nd connection. (9.70 SV)
3) A switch leap + B level jump (Straddle 1/4, Split 1/4, Wolf 1/2...) would then earn an additional .10 in CV (9.80 SV)
4) A D level jump after the switch leap (Switch Side, Switch Side to prone, Shushunova 3/4, Wolf 3/4...) would have earned the entire .30 in bonus she would have needed (.10 for the D, .20 for the connection) (10.0 SV)
Other options (some needing to be mixed or added to get the .20 missing) included:
1) Beat Jump + Shushunova 3/4 (.30 total bonus)
2) A RO + BHS + Double Back (.30 total bonus)
3) Switch Side to prone (.10 in bonus)
4) Wolf Jump 3/4 (.10 on bonus)
5) Front Aerial + Shushunova 1/4 (.10 in bonus)
6) Popa + Beat Jump (.30 total bonus)
Additionally, the deductions in the exercise include:
1) .05 - .10 for the leg position in the Pike Jump
2) .10 for the arm bends on the Back Dive 1/4
3) .20 for the bobble on the LSO
4) .10 for the dismount
That's already a 9.30 and she could have easily been hit more severely for the LSO, losing ~.30 and thus losing the .10 CV for a 9.10 total score.
Hi there,
Was a D required/free in the AA and then two required/free in the EF? Just like in the 96 code? So did you need, essentially .9 in bonus and 1.0 in bonus in the AA and EF, respectively? Also, I think CC was 0.2 in the COP.
Notice she did the "Miller" differently this time around. She held it for two seconds. She never did that before. I think they probably intended on resubmitting the skill.
Another reason why her routine wasn't out of 10.0 is because she left out her full-in.
negative_nancy was “the miller” not an actual element?? Commentators have said that it is on more than one occasion
That at least deserved a 9.5
The 9.287 was too low !?!?
She missed the front tuck mount + wolf jump combination (slight hesitation). Because of that the initial wolf jump counted as part of the "interior" of the routine rather than part of the mount. When she performed her front tuck + wolf jump combo later, she also missed that connection (again, slight hesitation... the judges were being brutal). It wouldn't have counted even if she made it: they wouldn't have factored in the second wolf jump. So that's already 4 tenths in connection bonus she missed. Plus the minor errors with the rest of the routine... Yeah... It was a fair score.
the judges were being nit picky and just for Miller. Dawes bad form and bent knee's were not deducted
no they weren't? she only had a 9.8 start value and the routine had errors? 9.487 for this if she had 10.0 sv would've been fair
Routine was out of a 9.8 and the big wobble after the 2nd layout was at least a .4 deduction plus small hop on dismount .1th so she's down to a 9.3 already
I wonder if Shannon considered going to another coach when making this comeback. Just because its pretty remarkable how long she was with Nunno. Many gymnasts switch at some point
In her new autobiography, which im reading now, she says that she was only going to make a comeback if Steve Nunno would coach her. In fact, her husband at that time had to move to Houston for his med school residency, so it would have been easier on her marriage to train with a club in Houston.
+kras118 As smart she is/was, Miller had horrible judgment in sticking with Nunno. She won medals in spite of him, not because of him. His routine construction cost her even more success in 1995, 1996, and 2000. She should have never been struggling to find a consistent 10.0 SV on FX in the 96-00 COP even with injury limiting her available skills to choose from. The front double full in 1995 and double layout in 1996 were clearly never going to be consistent elements and were not worth the risk. And, the order of passes and several of the combinations he chose throughout that quad were asinine.
Whip + BHS + Tuck Full-In; Rudi + BHS + LSO; Tuck Full-In; Whip 1/2 + Front Full + Front Tuck with D level dance elements (Cat Leap Double, Popa) would have been a safe, consistent routine using skills and combinations she had done, and done well.
Meanwhile, she should have perfected one of the Phelps, 1.5TY, or DTY by Atlanta since she had been training them for 3+ years, and her UB routine should have never relied on a double layout for a 10 SV.
In 2000, he failed her on VT and BB. It was evident from fall 1999 - Sydney team finals that these were the two weaknesses of team USA. A 1.5TY + Phelps would have been a great addition to the lineup, and while I realize her injury prevented her from training this event, it was clear she was maxing out at Hristakieva + FTY. I can only assume he was also under the false impression that her 2nd back dive 1/4 on beam was considered a back dive 1/4 + hop 1/1 pirouette to handstand, and in the COP as an E level skill, costing her .20 in SV on that event.
negative_nancy i am guessing you are a judge, or if not, you should be.
She's a Cancer. Cancers tend to get very attached to people.
Nuno was fucking Shannon. Pretty sure he started getting sexual with her in Barcelona.
What a beautiful dismount. She may have been a little wobbly but this was beautiful to watch.
The judges were very stingy with Miller's beam performance here, in my opinion. The score they gave her was quite low for just that one balance check. The remainder of her routine was graceful, elegant and flawless. I think she should have had a 9.6.
That's true, Khorkina is the only all around medalist over 20 I can remember. There were others too, like Tourischeva but that was when gymnastics was a totally different sport. Hatch and Bhardwaj (one of my all time fav american gymnasts) are indeed rare examples, same goes to Tweddle but there are other cases as well. Zamolodchikova for example definately reached her peak at Sydney and she never had the 2000 success but she was a rock for the russian team when they didn't have lots of depth.
xrictinagymnastics well it’s 2019 annnd AA-Mustafina, aly, Simone, gabby, individual-steingrueber, downie , weevers, paseka, Seitz etc.
@jamesbug2002 she is a vault specialist. Vault is the easiest event since you only have to do one maneuver.
I love some good beam!
I totally agree with a lot of the other comments. Talk about being shaken up before competiting! ...that would unnerve any performance. I wanted Shannon at the olympics more than anything.
Umm, what she means is that Galiyeva's family was one of those relocated from Russia to Uzbekistan during the Stalin era to maintain Russian cultural dominance throughout the Soviet Union. That's what she means by saying that she was born is Uzbekistan but was ethnically Russian.
That judge should have gotten a deduction
Wow when was the last time a gymnast performed a Valdez on beam after 1996?
under that COP is a flip flop/layout/layout worth .1 or .2 in bonus?
Why didn’t Shannon make the team for Bars and Beam? It seems like both of her sets were great
@jamesbug2002 shes been going to every olympics since 1992
@Titannu Like I already said Chusovitina is not an all around gymast like Miller. She is only a vault specialist which is totally different. Actually in her prime she used to be a floor specialist too and a decent all arounder but she is not even close to either of those things anymore and hasnt for many years which only proves my point. Hatch the other oldie who made a successful comeback (for her) was also a vault specialist.
@gymnfanus19972000 actually true that is a good point. I guess she and Hatch are the only two gymnasts (atleast that I know of unless there are more) that returned after long retirements to do better than ever. Thanks for pointing that out. Still I think it would be almost impossible for an AA superstar to do so.
@moopoo66 she was not really coming back since she was never retired. In 2000 she was coming back after almost 4 years off and 23 years old. It wasnt the same.
anyone else think marta was probably trying to psyche shannon out?
she had a severe stress fracture in her leg, below her knee which ended up fracturing day 2
@gymnfanus19972000 Then how did steve nunno think she could get at 9.8?
"The Miller"
The punch front mount is a C, right? and a regular front tuck on beam is a D.
She is smooth as hell to. I feel like they did harder routines back in these years.
I do believe Svetlana Horkina (forgive my spelling, I don't remember exactly how to spell the last name) competed in three olympics, I do believe. At any rate, she was 27 at the 2004 games and got either bronze or Silver in the AA, which is pretty legit.
Wow
That late judge is so disrespectful. If an athlete was late to the competition they’d go on without them but no have to make exceptions and let this rude woman waltz in with all smiles. I think if a judge is late like that then they should have to get some sort of penalty because it’s not fair to make the athletes wait even longer and get more anxious with anticipation.
It's an art I feel like I should be able to do but can't.
Wow that was great... no thanks to the judges!
Any women in there 30’s have the VHS tape “ Americas Best volume 2) I watched it over and over and over and over and over again as a level 8 gymnast and a little 9 year old wanting to be just like her and Dominique Dawes
@russianskatingfan Oksona Chusovitina seem to have done good..after nearly a decade of not doing the olympics..she got a Silver on Vault.
@tmwalkerm They actually said that Steve Nunno thinks that if she hits perfect she could go 9.8. If she would have hit all of her connections it would have been out of a 10.