I was surprised to see NR livery at Parkgate stop/station. Thought it would have Supertram livery at the stop. The reason why I think this is because Parkgate is served exclusively by the tram trains.
The concept of tram trains using the regular rail network is present around the german town of Kassel aswell, called Regio Tram. By the way, I read a newspaper article in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung (Frankfurt sunday news) about steam trains in Myanmar, that mentioned You and this channel... Nice video by the way!
Yes, I know it's been tried elsewhere but this is the first in the UK. I'm impressed that I'm getting publicity in the Frankfurt newspapers .... please encourage them!! Thanks for your comment ..... Andy
Actually all started with the 2000's Alicante-Benidorm Light train that is the prototype of the CityLink series, the 4100... a monster with 1200hp that reach 110kmh, but designed to enter the City and serve as Tram too, but very big for small tram lanes.
@@cdm7steve My messages sent are seeming to disappear!! This is the second time I've sent this one! I don't want to put my phone number on here. Can you send me an email to the address shown in my "About" section, and I'll reply to you then. Cheers, Andy
As a railroad track engineer my concern is the wheel tread width and what we call check gauge or back of guard rail to the running rail at the frog in a turnout (this is the dimension that keeps the flange from picking the frog point in a facing move). The back to back of wheels dimension needs to be addressed so the wheels will not bind between the guardrail and frog wing rail. Normally tram or streetcar wheels are not as wide as railroad wheels and the flanges are also not quite as big. As long as these things are taken care of there is no problem because the track gauge is the same. With typical tram wheels a wide gauge situation will be a problem for the tram that a railroad car would pass without a problem
I feel 100% certain that the UK governing body, Network Rail, would not have allowed the trams on to the main line system unless all these issues had been thoroughly checked out. Regulations are very strict here in the UK .... Andy
Sheffield trams do have a wider wheel tread than traditional first generation trams. On the street running sections the track runs in a raft of concrete to stop movement of the road surface hitting the overhanging part of the wheel.
@@AndyDandanFisherSteam Hi, yes, I agree. I was pointing out to Roy that Sheffield Tram/Trains have a wheel profile that is similar enough to train wheels as to make them compatible with both systems.
The points (or turnouts if you prefer) on the tram+train section of line have raised check rails for the benefit of the trams, I believe (at the expense of prohibiting the use of wheel skates for rescuing trains!) you can notice them at points (ha!) in this video such as 3:55
I was surprised to see NR livery at Parkgate stop/station. Thought it would have Supertram livery at the stop. The reason why I think this is because Parkgate is served exclusively by the tram trains.
I believe the tram/train services are operated on a 50/50 basis between Supertram and Northern Rail ...... Andy
The concept of tram trains using the regular rail network is present around the german town of Kassel aswell, called Regio Tram.
By the way, I read a newspaper article in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung (Frankfurt sunday news) about steam trains in Myanmar, that mentioned You and this channel...
Nice video by the way!
Yes, I know it's been tried elsewhere but this is the first in the UK. I'm impressed that I'm getting publicity in the Frankfurt newspapers .... please encourage them!! Thanks for your comment ..... Andy
Actually all started with the 2000's Alicante-Benidorm Light train that is the prototype of the CityLink series, the 4100... a monster with 1200hp that reach 110kmh, but designed to enter the City and serve as Tram too, but very big for small tram lanes.
Excellent tram ride footage mate
Thank you Scott. It was just grabbed on the spur of the moment really ...... Andy
Thank you for sharing
That's my pleasure. I hope you enjoyed it ..... Andy
surprised by the amount of electrical interference picked up by the camera , must get round to going on one of these things soon
Yes. I noticed that Steve - clicking on the sound track, very annoying! Did you get the message I sent you about tomorrow?
Andy
@@AndyDandanFisherSteam not seen any message
@@cdm7steve My messages sent are seeming to disappear!! This is the second time I've sent this one! I don't want to put my phone number on here. Can you send me an email to the address shown in my "About" section, and I'll reply to you then. Cheers, Andy
As a railroad track engineer my concern is the wheel tread width and what we call check gauge or back of guard rail to the running rail at the frog in a turnout (this is the dimension that keeps the flange from picking the frog point in a facing move). The back to back of wheels dimension needs to be addressed so the wheels will not bind between the guardrail and frog wing rail. Normally tram or streetcar wheels are not as wide as railroad wheels and the flanges are also not quite as big. As long as these things are taken care of there is no problem because the track gauge is the same. With typical tram wheels a wide gauge situation will be a problem for the tram that a railroad car would pass without a problem
I feel 100% certain that the UK governing body, Network Rail, would not have allowed the trams on to the main line system unless all these issues had been thoroughly checked out. Regulations are very strict here in the UK .... Andy
Sheffield trams do have a wider wheel tread than traditional first generation trams. On the street running sections the track runs in a raft of concrete to stop movement of the road surface hitting the overhanging part of the wheel.
@@damasw I'm sure the tram/trains will have been built to the correct specifications for main line running ..... Andy
@@AndyDandanFisherSteam Hi, yes, I agree. I was pointing out to Roy that Sheffield Tram/Trains have a wheel profile that is similar enough to train wheels as to make them compatible with both systems.
The points (or turnouts if you prefer) on the tram+train section of line have raised check rails for the benefit of the trams, I believe (at the expense of prohibiting the use of wheel skates for rescuing trains!) you can notice them at points (ha!) in this video such as 3:55