One other thing to mention about the Hare Trigger ability is that, arguably, the way Reliable Talent is written would allow you to use it for initiative rolls.
@@stefantyler You are correct. However, Reliable Talent reads as, "whenever you make an ability check that lets you add your proficiency bonus," and not something like 'when you make an ability check that you are proficient in.' It is arguable, but I think it should theoretically work.
@@stefantyler Reliable talent doesn't say "that you are proficient with" or of that vein, it says: "Whenever you make an ability check that *lets you add your Proficiency Bonus*" and Hare-Trigger says: "You can add your proficiency bonus to your initiative rolls." So you are making a check that lets you add your proficiency bonus, verbatim, reliable talent should trigger. Jack of all trades words: "you can add half your proficiency bonus" that's very dubious, maybe by a generous interpretation. I would think adding "half your proficiency bonus" is not adding "your proficiency bonus"
I *really* like this race. It has two really useful abilities for basically any class. It's not broken, but it's just nice to have. So many of the other races have such situational abilities that they may never come up.
personally, I THINK the rabit leap is super powerful... IF the DM allows for you to just high jump with it + the jump spell. because wow, that would allow grappling to also be a grapple + drop someone build
First thing that came to mind for a character concept is from the Redwall book series there are is a hare called Basil Stag Hare that appears in a couple of them and I think he could make a great character template
My first thought was watership down. Either way helps fill in the gaps in the harengon's existing flavor with dome cultural background, mythology, etc.
Man Harengons would make for excellent War Magic Wizards. - Perception proficiency. Wizards can't get this through the class itself, and its a good one to have in general - Rabbit Hop means you're a Wizard who can freely get themselves out of trouble without relying on Misty Step. Which means you can disengage/leave a dangerous area and still cast a levelled spell - Boost to initiative on top of the War Magic boost to initiative. You can reaaaally make sure you're going to go first for that key debuff or buff.
This race scales on proficiency so ridiculously hard. At level 13 with 25ft leaps 5 times per day and +5 initiative it looks top tier. With +2 initiative, and only 2 10ft leaps it looks mediocre. Great choice for the high level one shot.
I didn’t see anyone else mention barbarian but I think it’s a worthy consideration that blends all of the features of the Harengon together quite well. Rabbit hop to reposition to the biggest bad guy and lock them down. Intuitive initiative bonuses already built into their class at second level. And even lucky footwork gets better as the likelihood that a failed dex save will be within 1d4 is better due to advantage on such saving throws.
One little known rule is the one that allows smaller creatures to climb larger creatures with a contested Athletics check. A small Harengon can jump up to a flying creature and climb them in order to stay in the air - it's a form of flight that's difficult to replicate.
@@tyleremery7088 I use that all the time for other reasons. If I present large or larger creatures often enough as encounters, someone always eventually goes "I'ma try and ride it"
Now I just need to convince my GM to let me add falling damage to a weapon attack as a Jumping Harengon, and then I can live out my dreams of playing a Final Fantasy dragoon in D&D.
Rogue Swashbuckler and use the jump to reach far away enemies, flavoring your sneak attack damage as your Dragoon Jump bonus damage. Of course, the major issue there is the lack of finesse polearms, so you'd have to be a sword Dragoon. The alternative is to simply Rabbit Hop to get the height to fall on top of the enemy and split the damage via the Tasha variant rule for falling on an occupied space (if your DM is more likely to be on board with that), then attack separately afterwards. In such case, you'd have your base movement remaining to fall back on if you end up prone yourself, while also often getting to take advantage of having knocked it prone with your fall, boosting your weapon attack(s) in that way. To make splitting the damage more economical, the general consensus is that Monk's Slow fall reduces the total damage before it's split, but damage resistances like those that say when you "take(s) damage" would only reduce your side of the damage. So, Barbarian Rage and Stoneskin could be some useful options, and subclass features like Clockwork Soul Sorcerer's Bastion of Law or School of Bladesinging Wizard's Song of Defense are things you could work such a build around as well (with some downsides to consider depending on what your idea of a Dragoon entails). Unfortunately, while something like Heavy Armor Master would fit a Dragoon pretty well, it specifies the damage has to be from weapons.
I'm making a FF14-styled Red Mage out of one classed as a Bladesinger. Full spellcaster? Check. Utility in melee? Check. Ability to get in and out of melee damn fast? Check. No balance of white and black magic, sadly, but have other campaign considerations to make instead.
@@Restilia_ch Could take the Artificer Initiate Feat for the only extra bit of White Magic representation you really need, since the Wizard list covers a lot of that flavor already.
This just seems so perfect for any kind of a Gish build. Initiative bonus is especially great for a caster, plus the rabbit hopping helping both general maneuvering and free disengage for booming blade. Really excited to see your build.
@@magonus195 Character that mixes martial abilities with arcane magic. The most common ones are the bladsinger, hex-blade, and paladin multi classes with warlock, sorcerer, or bard.
@@magonus195 it's origins at a bit ambiguous. It's thought to be a derivative of "Gith" which, if your are unaware, is a race in dnd famous for mixing sword and sorcery
A really strong pick to cover some of the more obscure bases of character creation. That bonus action disengage opens up a lot of possibilities. But more than anything the idea of playing a bunny adventurer just opens up tons of different role play scenarios.
I have started playing a harengon recently, he is a bladesinger wizard with a one lvl dip in fighter. And he's been matching the frontliners so far without issue in combat.
My next character is gonna be a Harengon genielock/glamour bard.. he is a stage magician who's tophat is his vessel and will be pact of the chain for a sprite assistant.
I really like harengon for conquest pally. I cant say they're flat the best race for conquerors, not next to powerhouses like Vuman, Fallen Aassimar, Half Elves, or Eladrin. But still, good feature fit, and just thematically/aesthetically neat, with an against type fit that is none the less compellung, with a pop culture touchstone to build off of in the Watership Down antagonist General Woundwort.
Honestly a strong choice for paladins in general, particularly those that don't have misty step on their oath spell list ad thus could really use the help with positioning in combat.
I am currently playing a harengon conquest pally. Based on the rabbits under woundwort, one of his genarals and my shadow is literally the black rabbit, no rabbit folk can out run death, so they should not fear it.
If you can jump high enough and land in the space of a creature you both take the damage, so there you go. Careful though, at low levels it’s super deadly
So we have now 2 races that can make the jum spell useful, the grung and the harengon, and trust me jumping 75 feet. Or jumping 90ft. In any direction is practically broken (if you're a graviturgy wizard or have a party member graviturgy wizard you get 150ft. and 180ft. "so long tarrasque!"). In my party there was me, random grung boyo ranger gloom Stalker and my friend playing an archfey harengon, we were basically team scout and slay, and were also the Mascotte, this was the first time that the DM has ever seen one taking the warlock invocation that lets you cast "jump" at will, and actually the spell "jump"). P. S. I don't know if you already made one, but please Treant monk's temple, can you do a race tier list, like you did for the subclasses?
There is no pleasure in this world quite like a Grung Hand of Mercy Monk. "Hey, bro, let me heal you" "Please, I'm fine, just leave me alone" "Don't be shy, here!"
If the Hadozee make it into the coming multiverse books from the "Travelers of the Multiverse" Unearthed Arcana, then the Jump spell will be useful at times for a Hadozee to get some height on their high jump before gliding, in order to reach a significantly further distance.
Add Swashbuckler to the mix; with Rakish Audacity you add Charisma to your initiative. That alone, without expend a lot of resources, can give you 22~24 Initiative minimum at level 11. Its 10 (reliable talent) + 4 (Proficiency) + 5 (Dex) +3~5 (Cha)
@@hexagonal7499 And Gloom Stalker Ranger for Wis. For when you rolled for stats and have enough good rolls to go around to make a character with bonuses in all the mental attributes (or point buy with a bunch of +2s spreading the racial bonuses around).
My DM has a plunging attack rule; if you are falling and you make a melee weapon attack against an enemy on your way down, and it hits, you add the fall damage you would take at that point in your fall to the damage roll. Additionally, if the hit lands, you can make an Acrobatics check (DC is 10 + 1/10 of the fall height), and on a success, the height of your fall is reset as if you had fallen from the same elevation as the enemy you just hit. e.g Say you fell from 100 feet. On your way down, you pass by a flying enemy that is hovering 30 feet from ground level. You hit it successfully, and deal an additional 7d6 damage to it, and because you also passed the check, you only are considered to have fallen 30 feet, taking only 3d6 fall damage. Can't wait for my DM to remove this rule once I come back with a Harrengon.
a grappler, mage slayer or burst damage archtypes seem like fun builds with the hop and initiative bonus. It seems to me you could grapple someone then hop without it halfing the movement but i might be wrong there
I haven't tought much about it, but maybe harengon is SUPER INCREDIBLY OP if you can make a grappling build for it... I mean, even without the jump spell you could jump 10 or 20 feet in the air and drop the enemy, they land prone and take fall damage, you then grapple them again. But with the jump spell... you end up with up to 90 feet jump, do it straight up with a grappled enemy and the enemy is pretty much splattered.
I playtested one in a lvl 20 mini-campaign. They are amazing. I haven't done this but I think they would be great as a wizard. Being able to get out of range or reposition would be really useful. Not to mention the initiative bonus and dex save boosts.
I'm so glad they changed the way hopping worked. When they previewed it, it was a dice you could roll every turn to add to your movement. That felt like it would only bog down the game.
I was messing around and decided to make Usagi Yojimbo build for the heck of it. I know samurai isn’t the most optimized subclass in the world, but the harengon’s racial abilities compliment it pretty well. With the slasher feat and martial adept to give some extra damage and a battle master maneuver, there’s some good damage consistency and strategy and the rabbit jump helps keep you from getting stuck in a flanked position. The samurai adding wisdom proficiency is great for role play in a court intrigue setting as well. I can’t wait to bring this into a game.
Haren-be-gone can be small size. Thus they can ride a medium mount in dungeons. Though with their jump that's perhaps not as much of a boon? IDK. Also, with point buy they can select to start with 16 in dexterity, constitution and spell-casting stat (or strength).
Harengon feels made for Artificer. The class can benefit from hop regardless if built for melee or ranged and even if you're spamming bonus action for pet activations that doesn't discredit hop outside of combat or in situations where you NEED to move. The class can mostly get away with a +2 dex mod and with the initiative bump you get a +5 at 5th level, and since you are a utility caster going first means a lot as you can drop CC spells that proc on the start of a creatures first turn in a round. Perception and a d4 to dex saves don't even need explaining.
I think harengon’s gotta be my new favorite race. A harengon caster with silvery barbs can do a fantastic imitation of the chronurgist up until level 10, clockwork souls and bladesingers are gonna LOVE their new floppy ears
Playing a Harengon Cleric right now, team includes warlocks. Move in, Rabbit Hop over the backlines, have spirit guardians up and let them Repelling Blast enemies into the aura. Sets up well because the proficiency to initiative reliably allows me to have turn before them.
Fun bit of synergy; Jump isnt a concentration spell, so you could cast it before raging as a Beast Barb & jump a crazy amount of distance with Rabbit Hop. Harengon Barb/Ranger or Barb/Warlock looking fun as hell
Made a character named Gofir, and his whole concept is going first. Twilight cleric 1/chronurgy wizard 2/ gloomstalker ranger 3/swashbuckler rogue 11, and Alert. He's been fun through all tiers of play, and cant roll less than a 43 for initiative. My DM homebrewed that if I go first I get a whole round to myself, and if I roll a nat 20 on initiative I get 2. He's super fun! I love the Harengon race, great video!
There are a couple ways to make the Rabbit Hop broken: Boots of Striding and Springing gives a triple to your base jump A monk's Step of the Wind then allows you to exchange one Ki to double that distance Then the Jump spell would allow you to triple that and finally end it with a bunny hop That means at level 2, you can jump 10*3*2*3= 180ft as a bonus action.
Hi, treantmonk, I had a question: How would you rule a Harengon grappler? Would the jump count as forced movement or would they be able to take their grappled target with them? Would you halve the distance of the jump? What about something like spike growth? Thanks in advance!
So with Rabbit Hop, and Jump working with it, wouldn't Boots of Striding and Springing, and the Step of the Wind from the Monk all stack as well? So assuming you could get a Ring of Jumping, cast that first turn, second turn you could Rabbit Hop at 5 for 270 feet (15*3*3*2). Not really 100 percent sure what you can do with a leap like that, but it's kind of insane.
@@ezdepaz4363 I guess that's up to interpretation, but Step of the Wind reads to me like you spend a Ki then you CAN Dash or Disengage. Full stop. Also your jump distance is doubled. So I don't see why you couldn't still bonus action jump. You are just wasting the extra Dash or Disengage you get from it. But maybe I'm remembering it wrong.
@@MrKaelas "You can spend 1 ki point to take the Disengage or Dash action as a bonus action on your turn, and your jump distance is doubled for the turn." The Harengon jump also uses your bonus action, so unless you find a way to get two bonus actions in a single turn they can't work togheter.
• Harengon • Ranger 1 • Undead Warlock 1 • Gloomstalker Ranger 1 Inlé is your Warlock Patron! “The Black Rabbit of Inlé is the grim reaper of the rabbit world who takes rabbits away at their predestined times of death. He lives in a warren of stone on earth, inhabited by dead rabbits and filled with disease, death, and sadness beyond imagining. However, he shouldn't be considered a villain since he is doing his work on the command of Frith.”
I'm currently building a Harengon Path of the Beast Barbarian and am looking forward to combine the Rabbit Hop with the 3rd option of the 6th level feature Bestial Soul (add an Athletics Check result to jump distance) and the Skill Expert Feat for Athletics. The Hops should be huge. maybe I can get Boots of Striding and springing somewhere^^ One question I couldn't find any conclusive answer on the internet for: Can you use your rabbit hop while you are grappling a creature? If the answer is yes, is the distance halved as per dragging rules? Would be sweet to get really high jumps going and dropping grappled foes along the way so they take fall damage. But maybe the rules don't support that. (I will pose the idea to my GM, but don't want all the burden on figuring this out on them). Great video as always and I would appreciate any insight
This race seems like perfect choice for GWM Gloom Stalker. Your INI will be DEX+WIS+PB, your movement in the first turn will be 40+5xPB (if you jump), which makes sure you will reach your targets in the most important turn. You can be medium size, so you can take GWM feat. Ranger gives access to Jump spell and it also gives you Darkvision 60 ft. Synergies there are insane!
I made a Harengon ranger named Clint Harington. It was an out of the abyss campaign so his family immigrated to the underdark and became outlaws. So it's a big bunny gang that mug people and other stuff. So Clint is actually a decent human being and leaves his family and becomes a bounty hunter and tries to fix his family's wrongs. He was also a cowboy with a boomerang and he was such a fun character to play. Then he failed a con save and turned into a zombie, 3 sessions after I introduced him😥. But I can confirm that the race is a ton of fun to play
Is just me or I find it weird that the Harengon isn't considered as a fey? And other question, does it stack with Jack Of Trades as it is not said that you are profficient on initiative rolls, but that a bonus equal to your profficiency bonus is added instead?
I'm planning on running a Harengon Arcane Trickster for a level 15 one shot. Give it the Alert feat for an additional +5 initiative, and the lowest initiative it'll have with 20 DEX(+5 modifier) is 25 thanks to Reliable Talent, as it'll have proficiency in initiative rolls. Combined with Jump and Rabbit Hop, he can just grab something up to large, jump in the air, cast Feather Fall on itself and troll the battlefield dealing 7d6 fall damage to Large or smaller creatures one at a time.
The first two classes I first thought of was Eldritch Knight and Chronorgist. Eldritch Knight with disengage options could come in real handy with using thinks like booming blade. Chronorgist intiative will exceed almost every other class using Alacrity, +Dex, +Int, +prof, and if wanted you can grab Alert. For an average of +18 initiative or +13 without alert at level 5
I have a Bunny Mercy Monk that is so much fun to play. He is almost always first, moves incredibly fast and heals / harms and the image of this small rabbit kickin a** is really fun. I've watched tons of Kung Fu videos with animal fighting styles and those just make the play action seem crazy awesome. "I leap 15' in the air to kick the giant in the nose" roll to hit...
The harengon seems like it makes a great caster. like goblin that bonus action mobility is huge. I like the idea of leaping 90 feat into danger but, as you said a pre cast of jump doesn't seem likely. It's kind of funny, if you have the jump spell you can jump 90 feet with the harengon. If you have boots if striding and springing you can't jump any better at all.
Admittedly, the thing that makes the Rabbit Hop so potent is the the unique biology of their their feet, so covering them up with boots logically wouldn't be an improvement, magical though they may be.
Given the new floating ASIs for every race, I hope they go back to the human (either one) and give them something to compensate for losing that relative advantage. Tough to do when feats are optional too
A grappling focused build equipped with a ring of jumping. Being able to cast Jump at will, you just make it a twitch response where they always have it up. Enter combat, and they grapple a creature, jump and then throw the creature to the ground. Rune knight for eventual huge size to get full movement on medium creatures or Beast barbarian to add athletics (str) roll to jump distance. At L17, a Beast barbarian Harengon could jump 1d20+107 ft into the air (90 from rabbit hop & jump and 17 from expertise in athletics and maxed strength). Not optimized for damage, but rather flavorful.
Another option is to take a sorcerer and use the duration meta magic to get an all day long jump. Costs 2 first level spell slots but honestly that doesn't seem too bad of a cost to me.
I have a rogue player for a one shot that had a harengon with alert and reliable talent and i think they are a swashbuckler rogue as well so i think they have a +20 ish to initiative because they are lvl 15
the rabbit hop thing is pretty good. Basically a number of misty steps per long rest. kinda like the eladrin which gets 1 fey-step per short-rest. But this one is probably a bit worse at low level but better at high level
Do you think the added maneuverability of Rabbit Hop is enough to outpace the centaur grappler from your grapple death squad video? With the wording on Hare-trigger being 'you can," could you decide whether or not to increase your initiative after seeing the initiative order? Having a potential to choose the order you act in also seems quite good in the grapple death squad.
I actually address that in the grapple death squad video. By the way I was interpreting grapple, you need to use your movement to drag a grappled creature, and rabbit hop doesn't use your movement.
If you could get the ring of jumping or boots of striding and springing to get easier jump spell access this would be great. The boots and spell could combine as well for a x9 boost total I think
I am pretty sure the level 6 ability of the path of the beast will synergize with the racial hop. that may be worth me investing some time in that subclass for a more light hearted campaign.
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So... can you grapple and jump with the enemy? Is your jump halved? How does it interact with magic boots of jumping? I'm thinking of very broken things right now...
I am sure there are plenty of efficient builds that could be made with this race, but, for the life of me, I just can't get the image of a ravenous, murderous barbarian rabbit out of my mind.
I agree that a Bunny Bard seems very thematic, but the most important ability conflicts with an early-level class feature. The bonus should be 1d4 ( not scaling, but a little better at early levels when hop is very limited in use ). If anyone should have proficiency in Initiative, it should be Rogues!
Man, I will never understand how you think. Guidance, costing a cantrip selection and concentration for +1d4 to an ability check, is one of the best cantrips in the game; but lucky footwork, effectively an extra saving-throw proficiency or expertise through the first two tiers of play, is "okay, [not] that great"? It's absolutely boggling.
One's more a combat ability that requires your reaction, one's an adventuring ability that requires nothing. Can't shield, absorb elements, opportunity attack etc.. Makes sense to me
@@Karrde13 Lucky footwork sometimes being a better use of a reaction than shield, absorb elements, or an opportunity attack is hardly an argument that it is bad. It's another tool in the toolbox. As I already pointed out, guidance requires a cantrip pick and concentration, and you can add to that an action. For all that, it will still play a significantly smaller roll in keeping a character alive and functioning than lucky footwork.
Booming blade pushing maneuver someone into cloud of daggers then rabbit hop behind them so they can A. Move and take opportunity attack and booming blade damage or B stay still and take 4d4 on each of their turns
What kind of classe do you think would benefit most from the Harengon race? My initial thoughts were chronorgist Wizard, assassin or swashbuckler rogue and gloomstalker ranger
Graviturgy might be fun for double jump lenght and access to the jumps spell, total of 6 times jump length. Artificer is also good in at higher leves , getting boots of striding and springing at 10th level to multiply jump lenght by 3, multiclass with graviturgy and you can eventually get 540 feet jumps. (18x)
One other thing to mention about the Hare Trigger ability is that, arguably, the way Reliable Talent is written would allow you to use it for initiative rolls.
I hadn't considered that, but I agree with your reading.
good catch
that is arguable it says add your proficiency rather than become proficient. This question interacts with say jack of all trades
@@stefantyler You are correct. However, Reliable Talent reads as, "whenever you make an ability check that lets you add your proficiency bonus," and not something like 'when you make an ability check that you are proficient in.' It is arguable, but I think it should theoretically work.
@@stefantyler Reliable talent doesn't say "that you are proficient with" or of that vein, it says: "Whenever you make an ability check that *lets you add your Proficiency Bonus*"
and Hare-Trigger says: "You can add your proficiency bonus to your initiative rolls."
So you are making a check that lets you add your proficiency bonus, verbatim, reliable talent should trigger.
Jack of all trades words: "you can add half your proficiency bonus"
that's very dubious, maybe by a generous interpretation. I would think adding "half your proficiency bonus" is not adding "your proficiency bonus"
I *really* like this race. It has two really useful abilities for basically any class. It's not broken, but it's just nice to have. So many of the other races have such situational abilities that they may never come up.
personally, I THINK the rabit leap is super powerful... IF the DM allows for you to just high jump with it + the jump spell. because wow, that would allow grappling to also be a grapple + drop someone build
@@voodoophil I see, so its not broken if that were the case. Its just that itd be easy to make a cheese build with it?
@@chaoticwriting6304 suplex build
First thing that came to mind for a character concept is from the Redwall book series there are is a hare called Basil Stag Hare that appears in a couple of them and I think he could make a great character template
Glad to see the Redwall representation, wot!
Eh? Wat wat?
The cartoon was awesome too
My first thought was watership down. Either way helps fill in the gaps in the harengon's existing flavor with dome cultural background, mythology, etc.
YESSS!!!!
Man Harengons would make for excellent War Magic Wizards.
- Perception proficiency. Wizards can't get this through the class itself, and its a good one to have in general
- Rabbit Hop means you're a Wizard who can freely get themselves out of trouble without relying on Misty Step. Which means you can disengage/leave a dangerous area and still cast a levelled spell
- Boost to initiative on top of the War Magic boost to initiative. You can reaaaally make sure you're going to go first for that key debuff or buff.
RAW you can grab any skills you want through backgrounds per customization rules in PhB. Everything else seems super nice though.
Plus if you barely fail a Dex save you can use the Harengon racial ability instead of war wizards so you’re not limited to cantrips
Playing a harengon warlock in Witchlight currently and I'm now looking forward to level 9 to take the Otherworldly Leap invocation.
This race scales on proficiency so ridiculously hard. At level 13 with 25ft leaps 5 times per day and +5 initiative it looks top tier. With +2 initiative, and only 2 10ft leaps it looks mediocre. Great choice for the high level one shot.
I didn’t see anyone else mention barbarian but I think it’s a worthy consideration that blends all of the features of the Harengon together quite well.
Rabbit hop to reposition to the biggest bad guy and lock them down.
Intuitive initiative bonuses already built into their class at second level.
And even lucky footwork gets better as the likelihood that a failed dex save will be within 1d4 is better due to advantage on such saving throws.
One little known rule is the one that allows smaller creatures to climb larger creatures with a contested Athletics check. A small Harengon can jump up to a flying creature and climb them in order to stay in the air - it's a form of flight that's difficult to replicate.
It's little-known because it's an optional rule that people don't often include.
@@tyleremery7088 I use that all the time for other reasons. If I present large or larger creatures often enough as encounters, someone always eventually goes "I'ma try and ride it"
harengon archers and casters are so neat
taking something like gloomstalker allow you to pretty much always shoot first
Gloomstalker Assassin just got a lot scarier.
@@jcdenton2187 Hope for something like slippers of spiderclimb. Jump up, flip, put your feet on the ceiling and run away or other stuff.
Now I just need to convince my GM to let me add falling damage to a weapon attack as a Jumping Harengon, and then I can live out my dreams of playing a Final Fantasy dragoon in D&D.
Rogue Swashbuckler and use the jump to reach far away enemies, flavoring your sneak attack damage as your Dragoon Jump bonus damage. Of course, the major issue there is the lack of finesse polearms, so you'd have to be a sword Dragoon.
The alternative is to simply Rabbit Hop to get the height to fall on top of the enemy and split the damage via the Tasha variant rule for falling on an occupied space (if your DM is more likely to be on board with that), then attack separately afterwards. In such case, you'd have your base movement remaining to fall back on if you end up prone yourself, while also often getting to take advantage of having knocked it prone with your fall, boosting your weapon attack(s) in that way.
To make splitting the damage more economical, the general consensus is that Monk's Slow fall reduces the total damage before it's split, but damage resistances like those that say when you "take(s) damage" would only reduce your side of the damage. So, Barbarian Rage and Stoneskin could be some useful options, and subclass features like Clockwork Soul Sorcerer's Bastion of Law or School of Bladesinging Wizard's Song of Defense are things you could work such a build around as well (with some downsides to consider depending on what your idea of a Dragoon entails). Unfortunately, while something like Heavy Armor Master would fit a Dragoon pretty well, it specifies the damage has to be from weapons.
I'm making a FF14-styled Red Mage out of one classed as a Bladesinger. Full spellcaster? Check. Utility in melee? Check. Ability to get in and out of melee damn fast? Check. No balance of white and black magic, sadly, but have other campaign considerations to make instead.
@@Restilia_ch Could take the Artificer Initiate Feat for the only extra bit of White Magic representation you really need, since the Wizard list covers a lot of that flavor already.
This just seems so perfect for any kind of a Gish build. Initiative bonus is especially great for a caster, plus the rabbit hopping helping both general maneuvering and free disengage for booming blade. Really excited to see your build.
What's a gish?
@@magonus195 Character that mixes martial abilities with arcane magic. The most common ones are the bladsinger, hex-blade, and paladin multi classes with warlock, sorcerer, or bard.
@@bluesman2050 I see. That matches up with how I've seen the term used on this channel. Is it an acronym? Where the does the term come from?
@@magonus195 it's origins at a bit ambiguous. It's thought to be a derivative of "Gith" which, if your are unaware, is a race in dnd famous for mixing sword and sorcery
A really strong pick to cover some of the more obscure bases of character creation. That bonus action disengage opens up a lot of possibilities. But more than anything the idea of playing a bunny adventurer just opens up tons of different role play scenarios.
I have started playing a harengon recently, he is a bladesinger wizard with a one lvl dip in fighter. And he's been matching the frontliners so far without issue in combat.
The hop and essentially reaction bless on Dex saves makes it easier to survive front line with a wizard,
My next character is gonna be a Harengon genielock/glamour bard.. he is a stage magician who's tophat is his vessel and will be pact of the chain for a sprite assistant.
I really like harengon for conquest pally. I cant say they're flat the best race for conquerors, not next to powerhouses like Vuman, Fallen Aassimar, Half Elves, or Eladrin. But still, good feature fit, and just thematically/aesthetically neat, with an against type fit that is none the less compellung, with a pop culture touchstone to build off of in the Watership Down antagonist General Woundwort.
Honestly a strong choice for paladins in general, particularly those that don't have misty step on their oath spell list ad thus could really use the help with positioning in combat.
I am currently playing a harengon conquest pally. Based on the rabbits under woundwort, one of his genarals and my shadow is literally the black rabbit, no rabbit folk can out run death, so they should not fear it.
General Woundwort was totally where my mind went!
Every ranged Harengon: "It's over Anakin. I have the high ground."
I feel this could be a really cool new concept for Ranger builds
Don't forget - the best part about this race is that you get to play as a fuzzy bun-bun
A Harengon sorcerer with quickened spell for those Hops would be fun and help with the timing of when you can cast Jump. :)
If you can jump high enough and land in the space of a creature you both take the damage, so there you go. Careful though, at low levels it’s super deadly
So we have now 2 races that can make the jum spell useful, the grung and the harengon, and trust me jumping 75 feet. Or jumping 90ft. In any direction is practically broken (if you're a graviturgy wizard or have a party member graviturgy wizard you get 150ft. and 180ft. "so long tarrasque!").
In my party there was me, random grung boyo ranger gloom Stalker and my friend playing an archfey harengon, we were basically team scout and slay, and were also the Mascotte, this was the first time that the DM has ever seen one taking the warlock invocation that lets you cast "jump" at will, and actually the spell "jump").
P. S. I don't know if you already made one, but please Treant monk's temple, can you do a race tier list, like you did for the subclasses?
There is no pleasure in this world quite like a Grung Hand of Mercy Monk.
"Hey, bro, let me heal you"
"Please, I'm fine, just leave me alone"
"Don't be shy, here!"
If the Hadozee make it into the coming multiverse books from the "Travelers of the Multiverse" Unearthed Arcana, then the Jump spell will be useful at times for a Hadozee to get some height on their high jump before gliding, in order to reach a significantly further distance.
Harengon rogue with reliable talent would stack with hare trigger making initiative rolls even better for such a character.
Add Swashbuckler to the mix; with Rakish Audacity you add Charisma to your initiative.
That alone, without expend a lot of resources, can give you 22~24 Initiative minimum at level 11. Its 10 (reliable talent) + 4 (Proficiency) + 5 (Dex) +3~5 (Cha)
And is not, like, a super combo, is just an "I wanna play a swashbuckler".
@@titoluizpereira6281 also add war magic wizard for the int bonus
@@hexagonal7499 And Gloom Stalker Ranger for Wis. For when you rolled for stats and have enough good rolls to go around to make a character with bonuses in all the mental attributes (or point buy with a bunch of +2s spreading the racial bonuses around).
My DM has a plunging attack rule; if you are falling and you make a melee weapon attack against an enemy on your way down, and it hits, you add the fall damage you would take at that point in your fall to the damage roll. Additionally, if the hit lands, you can make an Acrobatics check (DC is 10 + 1/10 of the fall height), and on a success, the height of your fall is reset as if you had fallen from the same elevation as the enemy you just hit.
e.g Say you fell from 100 feet. On your way down, you pass by a flying enemy that is hovering 30 feet from ground level. You hit it successfully, and deal an additional 7d6 damage to it, and because you also passed the check, you only are considered to have fallen 30 feet, taking only 3d6 fall damage.
Can't wait for my DM to remove this rule once I come back with a Harrengon.
Truly "Death From Above"
a grappler, mage slayer or burst damage archtypes seem like fun builds with the hop and initiative bonus.
It seems to me you could grapple someone then hop without it halfing the movement but i might be wrong there
I haven't tought much about it, but maybe harengon is SUPER INCREDIBLY OP if you can make a grappling build for it... I mean, even without the jump spell you could jump 10 or 20 feet in the air and drop the enemy, they land prone and take fall damage, you then grapple them again.
But with the jump spell... you end up with up to 90 feet jump, do it straight up with a grappled enemy and the enemy is pretty much splattered.
I playtested one in a lvl 20 mini-campaign. They are amazing. I haven't done this but I think they would be great as a wizard. Being able to get out of range or reposition would be really useful. Not to mention the initiative bonus and dex save boosts.
I agree maybe war mage even or divination biz, with those 2 premonition (you know what I mean) rolls
I'm so glad they changed the way hopping worked. When they previewed it, it was a dice you could roll every turn to add to your movement. That felt like it would only bog down the game.
A Harengon grapple fighter would be perfect as Thlayli or Woundwort from Watership Down.
Warlock with otherworldly leap actually becomes an ok invocation as a harengon.
I was messing around and decided to make Usagi Yojimbo build for the heck of it. I know samurai isn’t the most optimized subclass in the world, but the harengon’s racial abilities compliment it pretty well. With the slasher feat and martial adept to give some extra damage and a battle master maneuver, there’s some good damage consistency and strategy and the rabbit jump helps keep you from getting stuck in a flanked position. The samurai adding wisdom proficiency is great for role play in a court intrigue setting as well. I can’t wait to bring this into a game.
Harengon Samurai = Miyamoto Usagi from Usagi Yojimbo.
Haren-be-gone can be small size. Thus they can ride a medium mount in dungeons. Though with their jump that's perhaps not as much of a boon? IDK.
Also, with point buy they can select to start with 16 in dexterity, constitution and spell-casting stat (or strength).
Harengon Quandrix Chronurgist Wizard with Alert Feat. Also called "No, I go first"
You could have an Oath of the Watchers Paladin with a level of Hexblade in your party for an even bigger bonus.
True, but why tho. +20 at 17th level. Pretty sure everything in the game has WAY less than that
Harengon feels made for Artificer. The class can benefit from hop regardless if built for melee or ranged and even if you're spamming bonus action for pet activations that doesn't discredit hop outside of combat or in situations where you NEED to move. The class can mostly get away with a +2 dex mod and with the initiative bump you get a +5 at 5th level, and since you are a utility caster going first means a lot as you can drop CC spells that proc on the start of a creatures first turn in a round. Perception and a d4 to dex saves don't even need explaining.
Seems better for druids, wizards, and sorcerers
I think harengon’s gotta be my new favorite race. A harengon caster with silvery barbs can do a fantastic imitation of the chronurgist up until level 10, clockwork souls and bladesingers are gonna LOVE their new floppy ears
Playing a Harengon Cleric right now, team includes warlocks. Move in, Rabbit Hop over the backlines, have spirit guardians up and let them Repelling Blast enemies into the aura. Sets up well because the proficiency to initiative reliably allows me to have turn before them.
Fun bit of synergy; Jump isnt a concentration spell, so you could cast it before raging as a Beast Barb & jump a crazy amount of distance with Rabbit Hop. Harengon Barb/Ranger or Barb/Warlock looking fun as hell
Made a character named Gofir, and his whole concept is going first. Twilight cleric 1/chronurgy wizard 2/ gloomstalker ranger 3/swashbuckler rogue 11, and Alert. He's been fun through all tiers of play, and cant roll less than a 43 for initiative. My DM homebrewed that if I go first I get a whole round to myself, and if I roll a nat 20 on initiative I get 2. He's super fun! I love the Harengon race, great video!
Waiting for a build on this race ! Maybe a small rogue that can fit in small places..maybe in the high ground…imagine that in a urban environment
There are a couple ways to make the Rabbit Hop broken:
Boots of Striding and Springing gives a triple to your base jump
A monk's Step of the Wind then allows you to exchange one Ki to double that distance
Then the Jump spell would allow you to triple that
and finally end it with a bunny hop
That means at level 2, you can jump 10*3*2*3= 180ft as a bonus action.
Hi, treantmonk, I had a question: How would you rule a Harengon grappler? Would the jump count as forced movement or would they be able to take their grappled target with them? Would you halve the distance of the jump? What about something like spike growth?
Thanks in advance!
So with Rabbit Hop, and Jump working with it, wouldn't Boots of Striding and Springing, and the Step of the Wind from the Monk all stack as well?
So assuming you could get a Ring of Jumping, cast that first turn, second turn you could Rabbit Hop at 5 for 270 feet (15*3*3*2). Not really 100 percent sure what you can do with a leap like that, but it's kind of insane.
I would assume so...
Not the monk one, since it's also a bonus action. The second level feature from graviturgy wizard would work though!
@@ezdepaz4363 I guess that's up to interpretation, but Step of the Wind reads to me like you spend a Ki then you CAN Dash or Disengage. Full stop. Also your jump distance is doubled.
So I don't see why you couldn't still bonus action jump. You are just wasting the extra Dash or Disengage you get from it. But maybe I'm remembering it wrong.
@@MrKaelas "You can spend 1 ki point to take the Disengage or Dash action as a bonus action on your turn, and your jump distance is doubled for the turn."
The Harengon jump also uses your bonus action, so unless you find a way to get two bonus actions in a single turn they can't work togheter.
A Harengon Gloomstalker Ranger would give you Darkvision and crazy maneuverability. Protect the Rabbit Warren! 🕳 🐇
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“The Black Rabbit of Inlé is the grim reaper of the rabbit world who takes rabbits away at their predestined times of death. He lives in a warren of stone on earth, inhabited by dead rabbits and filled with disease, death, and sadness beyond imagining. However, he shouldn't be considered a villain since he is doing his work on the command of Frith.”
Ring of Jumping is a must have item for all harengons.
I'm currently building a Harengon Path of the Beast Barbarian and am looking forward to combine the Rabbit Hop with the 3rd option of the 6th level feature Bestial Soul (add an Athletics Check result to jump distance) and the Skill Expert Feat for Athletics. The Hops should be huge. maybe I can get Boots of Striding and springing somewhere^^ One question I couldn't find any conclusive answer on the internet for: Can you use your rabbit hop while you are grappling a creature? If the answer is yes, is the distance halved as per dragging rules? Would be sweet to get really high jumps going and dropping grappled foes along the way so they take fall damage. But maybe the rules don't support that. (I will pose the idea to my GM, but don't want all the burden on figuring this out on them). Great video as always and I would appreciate any insight
We can officially play Peter the Rabbit in D&D :)
the rabbit hop and jump will stack with step of the wind. A lot of people forget step of the wind doubles jump distance
This race seems like perfect choice for GWM Gloom Stalker. Your INI will be DEX+WIS+PB, your movement in the first turn will be 40+5xPB (if you jump), which makes sure you will reach your targets in the most important turn. You can be medium size, so you can take GWM feat. Ranger gives access to Jump spell and it also gives you Darkvision 60 ft.
Synergies there are insane!
I made a Harengon ranger named Clint Harington. It was an out of the abyss campaign so his family immigrated to the underdark and became outlaws. So it's a big bunny gang that mug people and other stuff. So Clint is actually a decent human being and leaves his family and becomes a bounty hunter and tries to fix his family's wrongs. He was also a cowboy with a boomerang and he was such a fun character to play. Then he failed a con save and turned into a zombie, 3 sessions after I introduced him😥. But I can confirm that the race is a ton of fun to play
Is just me or I find it weird that the Harengon isn't considered as a fey? And other question, does it stack with Jack Of Trades as it is not said that you are profficient on initiative rolls, but that a bonus equal to your profficiency bonus is added instead?
IIRC Jack of all Trades says "Any roll you don't already add your proficiency bonus to"
It doesn't stack with Jack of all trades unfortunately.
Another reason for the bonus just to be 1d4 and Rogues to get the proficiency in Initiative :)
I'm planning on running a Harengon Arcane Trickster for a level 15 one shot. Give it the Alert feat for an additional +5 initiative, and the lowest initiative it'll have with 20 DEX(+5 modifier) is 25 thanks to Reliable Talent, as it'll have proficiency in initiative rolls. Combined with Jump and Rabbit Hop, he can just grab something up to large, jump in the air, cast Feather Fall on itself and troll the battlefield dealing 7d6 fall damage to Large or smaller creatures one at a time.
The here and gone? A name worthy of Pokémon.
The first two classes I first thought of was Eldritch Knight and Chronorgist. Eldritch Knight with disengage options could come in real handy with using thinks like booming blade. Chronorgist intiative will exceed almost every other class using Alacrity, +Dex, +Int, +prof, and if wanted you can grab Alert. For an average of +18 initiative or +13 without alert at level 5
I believe one of the dragonmark races let you get a d4 to initiative but that’s weaker than the harengon ability
I have a Bunny Mercy Monk that is so much fun to play. He is almost always first, moves incredibly fast and heals / harms and the image of this small rabbit kickin a** is really fun. I've watched tons of Kung Fu videos with animal fighting styles and those just make the play action seem crazy awesome. "I leap 15' in the air to kick the giant in the nose" roll to hit...
I didn't look at all the comments but...you can make Bugs Bunny now. You know that right? a Harengon Trickery Cleric people!
I made a bladesinger harengon, really enjoyable with the increase in mobility and improved initiative.
The question I have is whether you could use your movement to jump (in any direction); then, use Rabbit Hop in the air to extend your jump.
The harengon seems like it makes a great caster. like goblin that bonus action mobility is huge.
I like the idea of leaping 90 feat into danger but, as you said a pre cast of jump doesn't seem likely.
It's kind of funny, if you have the jump spell you can jump 90 feet with the harengon. If you have boots if striding and springing you can't jump any better at all.
Admittedly, the thing that makes the Rabbit Hop so potent is the the unique biology of their their feet, so covering them up with boots logically wouldn't be an improvement, magical though they may be.
It is the disengage as a bonus action that really "jumps" out at me.
Coffee lock. And you have the energizer bunny
Given the new floating ASIs for every race, I hope they go back to the human (either one) and give them something to compensate for losing that relative advantage. Tough to do when feats are optional too
A grappling focused build equipped with a ring of jumping. Being able to cast Jump at will, you just make it a twitch response where they always have it up.
Enter combat, and they grapple a creature, jump and then throw the creature to the ground.
Rune knight for eventual huge size to get full movement on medium creatures or Beast barbarian to add athletics (str) roll to jump distance.
At L17, a Beast barbarian Harengon could jump 1d20+107 ft into the air (90 from rabbit hop & jump and 17 from expertise in athletics and maxed strength).
Not optimized for damage, but rather flavorful.
Another option is to take a sorcerer and use the duration meta magic to get an all day long jump. Costs 2 first level spell slots but honestly that doesn't seem too bad of a cost to me.
A harengon bladesinger seems like a natural syngergy
I have a rogue player for a one shot that had a harengon with alert and reliable talent and i think they are a swashbuckler rogue as well so i think they have a +20 ish to initiative because they are lvl 15
the rabbit hop thing is pretty good. Basically a number of misty steps per long rest. kinda like the eladrin which gets 1 fey-step per short-rest. But this one is probably a bit worse at low level but better at high level
An interesting way that the hop is better than a disengage in a weird corner case is that it gets around the sentinel feat.
It would be cool to see haregon vs bullywug.
This would be a fun race to play. I'd probably choose bladesinger.
I made a Harengon Artificer 1/War Mage X who has just a ridiculous Initiative bonus.
He's a lot of fun.
Harengon screams wizard
Now make a Samurai and call him Uusagi Yojimbo.
And if you get this one, it's time for a prostate check fellas.
Do you think the added maneuverability of Rabbit Hop is enough to outpace the centaur grappler from your grapple death squad video? With the wording on Hare-trigger being 'you can," could you decide whether or not to increase your initiative after seeing the initiative order? Having a potential to choose the order you act in also seems quite good in the grapple death squad.
I actually address that in the grapple death squad video. By the way I was interpreting grapple, you need to use your movement to drag a grappled creature, and rabbit hop doesn't use your movement.
If you could get the ring of jumping or boots of striding and springing to get easier jump spell access this would be great. The boots and spell could combine as well for a x9 boost total I think
I am pretty sure the level 6 ability of the path of the beast will synergize with the racial hop. that may be worth me investing some time in that subclass for a more light hearted campaign.
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There's an Invocations for warlocks at 9th level that basically treats jump like a cantrip might be good as a harengon warlock.
So... can you grapple and jump with the enemy? Is your jump halved? How does it interact with magic boots of jumping? I'm thinking of very broken things right now...
My sister made a Harengon monk with a dip into barbarian (str based monk) it was absolutely incredible. :)
I am sure there are plenty of efficient builds that could be made with this race, but, for the life of me, I just can't get the image of a ravenous, murderous barbarian rabbit out of my mind.
I'm with you on this one
Monty Python's Killer Rabbit lol
Simply be a war wizard and take the alert feat and at level 5 have a +14 to initiative.
The other question is, is a Haregon subject to fall damage if they jump, say, 90ft? Cause that will limit its usefulness.
Give the Harengon a spellwrought tattoo of the jump spell.
It would be fun to do a bard harengon, too bad that jack of all trades would no longer help your initiative though...
I agree that a Bunny Bard seems very thematic, but the most important ability conflicts with an early-level class feature. The bonus should be 1d4 ( not scaling, but a little better at early levels when hop is very limited in use ). If anyone should have proficiency in Initiative, it should be Rogues!
Why’s it called a Harengon?
_Because one moment it’s hare n the next it’s gon._
Boooooo
@@josephdouglas5242 Boo WotC, because I'm pretty sure that pun in the name was totally intentional
Man, I will never understand how you think. Guidance, costing a cantrip selection and concentration for +1d4 to an ability check, is one of the best cantrips in the game; but lucky footwork, effectively an extra saving-throw proficiency or expertise through the first two tiers of play, is "okay, [not] that great"? It's absolutely boggling.
One's more a combat ability that requires your reaction, one's an adventuring ability that requires nothing.
Can't shield, absorb elements, opportunity attack etc..
Makes sense to me
@@Karrde13 Lucky footwork sometimes being a better use of a reaction than shield, absorb elements, or an opportunity attack is hardly an argument that it is bad. It's another tool in the toolbox.
As I already pointed out, guidance requires a cantrip pick and concentration, and you can add to that an action. For all that, it will still play a significantly smaller roll in keeping a character alive and functioning than lucky footwork.
I cast Jump on the Haregon fighter in our party for a high stakes winner take all race. 100% would recommend.
Ring of Jumping - Any Harengon is going to want to own this item.
Just made a fathomless one of these for a Saltmarsh my group is starting. It was the weirdest thing I could think of.
I think there’s a sub-race of Lionfolk that gives you a bonus to initiative equal to your int modifier. Don’t know if it’s official though
Booming blade pushing maneuver someone into cloud of daggers then rabbit hop behind them so they can A. Move and take opportunity attack and booming blade damage or B stay still and take 4d4 on each of their turns
It's a good alternative to your bladesinger build, instead of goblin. Minus the bonus action Hide, tho
I am still wondering why WotC thought extra speed was what made Rabbit Hop exceptional, not the disengage.
Harengon grappler kidnapper with jump spell incoming.
What kind of classe do you think would benefit most from the Harengon race?
My initial thoughts were chronorgist Wizard, assassin or swashbuckler rogue and gloomstalker ranger
Full caster, no question, particularly ones that lack access to Misty Step.
Graviturgy might be fun for double jump lenght and access to the jumps spell, total of 6 times jump length. Artificer is also good in at higher leves , getting boots of striding and springing at 10th level to multiply jump lenght by 3, multiclass with graviturgy and you can eventually get 540 feet jumps. (18x)
I can't seem to find the build video for harengon...anyone help me out here?
So,does this work with any armor: fey paladin/eldritch knight in full plate,rabbit hopping...
What about fall damage after a big hop,bruh?..
It’s called a Pooka
Does it mean that Tabaxi Mage Slayer have become Harengon Mage Slayer?
Good job!