@@downwiththezionistpsychopa9812 Antisemitism is not real? Sure, the definition of antisemitism, and racism in general, has become inflated, but that doesn't mean there's no such thing
I'm encouraged by some of the comments here, those who are aware certain generations of poetasters are almost entirely incapable of understanding Pound's economics and politics, 'The Jewish Question' aside. Usury was his point, and the point has skipped a few generations (generally speaking, there are always exceptions) and will now be carried on by the bravest of those born toward the end of the 20th century and on into this one.
Ezra Pound did and said nothing wrong.... Dante puts the usurers in the lowest sub-circle of the seventh circle of hell, many people have noted that usurers are placed deeper into hell than violent murderers, violent suicides, blasphemers, and sodomites.
I love Ez. I also own a copy of “Ezra Pound Speaking: Radio Speeches of World War II (Contributions in American Studies): 9780313200571: by Leonard W. Doob.” It’s heartbreaking to read the vitriol coming out of Pound’s mouth. Indeed, he had a psychotic break during the war, and later Ginsberg forgave him. I forgive him too. Yet, the record stands. (Thank the gods for the poetry.)
@@geinikan1kan Oh so what theres absolutely nothing wrong with being a fascist. I mean that in the true sense of fascism. Not the usual way people throw the word about linking it the Hitler.
eZRA POUNd "LIKE a unbroken house cat,, Dangerous around children" Ernest Hemingway, that IDAHO born BOY Ezra Pound LONG LIVE THE FIGHT WE havE;; LOST, AGAINST USURY,, kevin D. blanch
Despite his WW2 support of the enemy, I've admired Pound's poetry all my life. He's a literary giant on the same level as Joyce, Eliot, Yeats and others of his generation. He's one of the greatest American poets. He was a genius in the truest sense of the word. Unfortunately his extreme intelligence failed to grasp the enormous evil that the fascism of Mussolini and Hitler was capable of. Pound's intellectual support of fascist economics did not foresee the wholesale slaughter of millions in the Holocaust. That's his ultimate failure.
Sometimes it seems there is a thin line between colossal arrogance and infantile naivety. Having excessive faith in one's own high intelligence seems a sort of 'occupational hazard' of the highly intelligent, from what I, with my modest intelligence, have observed ....
How says the H would of happened if the West stayed out? H happened right at the end when everything was lost for Germany. Germany v ruthless Stalin and Communism was always going to kick off, we didn't need to get involved.
Pound was wrong about usury. But I understand his feeling that culture had failed in Europe but I think that despite everything, his great learning etc he was naive, almost childlike in his political views. His Cantos as an idea of fragmented writings and moments of intensity and reports, fails where it is tendentious. The US was no greater or 'better' really than Germany or Europe. Capitalism is an 'evil' but from there we start to get so many contradictions. Better to present history and its complexity. In some ways he succumbed to a vague Enlightenment idea of Progress. A myth. But his passion for art and ideas and his work was great. [The decline of European civilization is a myth also, but Europe in 30s to 40s became the culmination of and Idea that had existed and had been seen in the 1500s on. Seen in the savage Inquisition and ideas of Western superiority. ] The controversy goes on but Pound is still of great importance for anyone interested in Modernist and later poetry. He helped so many people (as did another Stein, Gertrude) so his intense poetry and poetics his ideas, were almost the greatest thing done in his day, but always these simplifications of history happen to even the most learned. Many Jewish writers admired his work. They understood his "madness".
ultimately, for Pound, the establishment said, "I think you have had a little to much to think."
And with the most base tactic no less. ‘Antisemitism’ is not real
@@downwiththezionistpsychopa9812 Antisemitism is not real? Sure, the definition of antisemitism, and racism in general, has become inflated, but that doesn't mean there's no such thing
@@cumomsandcureloms you’re totally asleep and I hope you wake up go what’s going on in the world soon
@@downwiththezionistpsychopa9812 does the word "holocaust" mean anything to you ?
@@cumomsandcureloms how many gentiles and Christians died during ww2 at the hands of bolshevik (chewish) communists?
I'm encouraged by some of the comments here, those who are aware certain generations of poetasters are almost entirely incapable of understanding Pound's economics and politics, 'The Jewish Question' aside. Usury was his point, and the point has skipped a few generations (generally speaking, there are always exceptions) and will now be carried on by the bravest of those born toward the end of the 20th century and on into this one.
Bravo
Donald Hall knows who pays his way.
Thank you Mr. Hall. Wish I’d have been there!
oh shit, you died! Well, thanks anyway if you can read this. I could listen to you talk all day long, brother.
My mother in law interviewed him for her high school paper.......
Interesting! When would that have been? Has she told you anything about the experience? Please tell us more!
Ezra Pound did and said nothing wrong.... Dante puts the usurers in the lowest sub-circle of the seventh circle of hell, many people have noted that usurers are placed deeper into hell than violent murderers, violent suicides, blasphemers, and sodomites.
With usura even Dante’s works are usurped and cheapened
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his spirit shall rise from the grave and the whole world will know that he was right.
I love Ez. I also own a copy of “Ezra Pound Speaking: Radio Speeches of World War II (Contributions in American Studies): 9780313200571: by Leonard W. Doob.” It’s heartbreaking to read the vitriol coming out of Pound’s mouth. Indeed, he had a psychotic break during the war, and later Ginsberg forgave him. I forgive him too. Yet, the record stands. (Thank the gods for the poetry.)
How dare he expose the jews?
"broadcast for Mussolini to American troops" false. Pound was speaking for himself.
Exactly, and we supposedly fight these wars to defend free speech
heh heh poems heh heh
Are you kidding? You think he just opened up a podcast online? Pound was a fascist through and through.
@@geinikan1kan Oh so what theres absolutely nothing wrong with being a fascist. I mean that in the true sense of fascism. Not the usual way people throw the word about linking it the Hitler.
@@marcgray7317 Please tell me something right about being a fascist? I'll even accept unusual examples. Go for it.
Pound... so very good. And was right.
100% right
eZRA POUNd "LIKE a unbroken house cat,, Dangerous around children" Ernest Hemingway, that IDAHO born BOY Ezra Pound LONG LIVE THE FIGHT WE havE;; LOST, AGAINST USURY,, kevin D. blanch
Despite his WW2 support of the enemy, I've admired Pound's poetry all my life. He's a literary giant on the same level as Joyce, Eliot, Yeats and others of his generation. He's one of the greatest American poets. He was a genius in the truest sense of the word. Unfortunately his extreme intelligence failed to grasp the enormous evil that the fascism of Mussolini and Hitler was capable of. Pound's intellectual support of fascist economics did not foresee the wholesale slaughter of millions in the Holocaust. That's his ultimate failure.
Sometimes it seems there is a thin line between colossal arrogance and infantile naivety. Having excessive faith in one's own high intelligence seems a sort of 'occupational hazard' of the highly intelligent, from what I, with my modest intelligence, have observed ....
Separate the art from the artist.
How says the H would of happened if the West stayed out? H happened right at the end when everything was lost for Germany.
Germany v ruthless Stalin and Communism was always going to kick off, we didn't need to get involved.
Mr Hall, I seriously see that YOU did "not get it."
No trial because they were afraid of what he might say.
Pound was wrong about usury. But I understand his feeling that culture had failed in Europe but I think that despite everything, his great learning etc he was naive, almost childlike in his political views. His Cantos as an idea of fragmented writings and moments of intensity and reports, fails where it is tendentious. The US was no greater or 'better' really than Germany or Europe. Capitalism is an 'evil' but from there we start to get so many contradictions. Better to present history and its complexity. In some ways he succumbed to a vague Enlightenment idea of Progress. A myth. But his passion for art and ideas and his work was great. [The decline of European civilization is a myth also, but Europe in 30s to 40s became the culmination of and Idea that had existed and had been seen in the 1500s on. Seen in the savage Inquisition and ideas of Western superiority. ] The controversy goes on but Pound is still of great importance for anyone interested in Modernist and later poetry. He helped so many people (as did another Stein, Gertrude) so his intense poetry and poetics his ideas, were almost the greatest thing done in his day, but always these simplifications of history happen to even the most learned. Many Jewish writers admired his work. They understood his "madness".
Usury is destroying the West.