Pretty insightful on HYDE'S part. One of the biggest reasons for the rise of kpop is their production value but most importantly their ACCESSIBILITY. In the early 2000's Japan really hit their stride with the international market but it became increasingly monotonous with newer less individualistic acts and the fact you couldn't even stream old favorites. It's not that kpop is better but they know how to maximize the market.
With all my respect to Kpop fans, but there are few Korean musicians that can compare to Japanese artist like H.Y.D.E, Miyavi and Exile. H.Y.D.E. doesn't need to regret anything, since many years ago he sang in English and his music had reached uncountable people, that's why Vamps and his Solo career will never die. He had so much experience and he renovates himself. I don't think that he needs to worry at all.
Japan has exile,Hyde, one ok Rock, namie Amuro (even tho she's retired) anime ost, great voices,concerts,dance, visual appeal ECT ECT. The only thing they messed up is not interacting with fans, promoting globally,and offish one RUclipsr, Twitter, Facebook and ig Sigh, we're stuck with K-pop for the time being but I hope Japan does better in next few years.
truly the way his mind writing amazing songs always come with his level head in such insightful ways. Truly, HYDE and LEC members always so wise and intellect whenever they give an answer. For what Hyde said about Kpop is truly right. They have massive production and plan once the group debut and even before high training and maintaining be keeping to the idols with many lessons of foreign languages or already recruit ones from abroad for accessible communication with fans. Somehow at this time of interview, Kpop that recognize by Hyde must be Tohoshinki as they make their name so much bigger in BigEast or Japan and Japan society themself accept them warmly and enjoy their music, some maybe like it more compared to other Jpop. In case of Rock in Asia, no one can beat Japan from then to now. They are still leading the culture of Rock in Asia, for sure. For Pop its could not be discredit that Kpop really taking the world now. From PSY to BTS and Blackpink recently.. those not without endless trial and fail by other Kpop artist trying to enter western or world music.. but they keep trying until it make a break through. Again, Hyde said is right, the vision is different between Jpop and Kpop since the beginning.. the other aim local while later seeking the world approval. Yet, I love in this interview Hyde well understood this point and instead of saying unnecessarily stuff, he went to deliver his life motto (kinda implied at the end) that even you getting older never stop to pursue your dream. I always know that LEC is a forever treasure for him, while in the other side projects solo and VAMPS are his journey to find who is yourself. Because is this life of journey that all about.
I like songs such as "SHINSHOKU ~ lose control ~", "HEAVEN'S DRIVE", and "NEO UNIVERSE" by L'Arc ~ en ~ Ciel. Actually, I like the production of Hajime Okano, a former bassist of PINK. He is a talent and idea person. Please listen to PINK's "NAKED CHILD". He plays an incredible baseline. Needless to say, the origin of J-Rock is in Western culture. It seems strange that "J-Rock is okay only in Japan". Mr. Hyde's comment is correct and I can agree. It's clear which one between K-POP IDOL and J-POP IDOL will work harder and expand their own talents, I think.
this was posted two years ago but lol i just wanted to put my two cents on this XDD i honestly think social media had a huge impact on kpop's rise. kpop artists went to social media and started interacting with fans, drawing them in. they'd go on variety shows or made their own content, allowing others to get to know them and be more drawn in because now they aren't just talented, they're really funny and relatable too! i honestly think laruku would've gotten more global attention if they were more active when social media started to rise. they've got it all: great music, the actual talent of composing and producing their own albums, memorable quirky personalities, not to mention great visuals! i love kpop and their artists make me happy, but jrock will always be more superior for me XDD
Japan's rock probably has a bigger international influence and maybe should develop more in that way. The more mainstream JPOPs in recent 2-5 years are all pretty boring, how do I put it...
since everyone is giving their opinion I'm going to give mine okay I have seen that jpop has been decreasing and kpop is on the rise but there are very few that really captivate the public, not only because of the way they sing but also because of the way they are sung. And they get into the role of the music they play, even on top of that some have no talent but the public accepts them because they are just beautiful, but very few look at the real talent And that shows, that some people no longer appreciate the true talent and charisma of the artist.I'll be honest, jpop and kpop used to be very good, their music was good. Jpop was very good in the 70s and 80s and kpop from 1991 to 2013, although clearly they still see many good artists, but they are very few in both countries. I think the problem is that in kpop they put a lot of rap and that does not show their true vocal range and in jpop they put a lot of tenderness with AKB and Nagizaka which does not show their true vocal range either I think that if there were no groups and only pure soloists, their true vocal range could be noticed more, not only that for jpop and kpop but also for any artist or group . The same thing happens in cpop, a lot of rap is put there, and they do not show their vocal range of their artist I think they should give their solo to each member of each group and see how her charisma is expressed, his way of dancing, his way of singing and especially if he plays the role of the music that he or she is playing.
It's been a long time, however I want to give my opinion. I think it's unfair to compare Kpop with Jrok, both are the best at what they do, I say L'Arc en Ciel has no comparison with BTS for example, they are different genres and generations, however, I do believe that Japanese musicians are lagging behind in terms of communication with fans, for example L'Arc en Ciel is loved in Latin America but they will never play a concert here.
k pop dont know how to make evergreen music. indeed their music was easy listening but just for a while. not like japanese musician like l arc en ciel, we still remember their song from first album. k pop just disgrace of music.
Of course KPOP is always ALWAYS going to be seen on top; they have talents and are globally successful for their NON-fake performances, and also been learning to speak other languages---which is REALLY IMPORTANT if they want their music to be known.
most of Kpop lip sync anyway but it was back then, i have no idea what current kpop is, every country have their own fake performances anyway. also rock band like L'arc or One ok rock even babymetal rarely doing fake performances.i agree with you about languages but Japan need more internet friendly first before even focus to learn other languages. for example L'arc-en-ciel (Hyde's band) they don't even upload their official MV on youtube. so the only important point to export Jpop, Jrock, or Jwhatever to other countries first is just INTERNET FRIENDLY. this is freaking 2017 and Japan still hate internet wtf
Super Ultra Hyper Sayumi Time I've never even heard of kpop lip syncing singers before though (have you actually listened to any kpop songs? I doubt it) most of them undergo about 6 years of training before their official debut you know ( and it is no wonder a lot of them quit due to harsh treatment from their own company and no rest, many scandals resulting like singer dancers VS money-hungry company news in Korea) And I've never heard of Japanese artists doing such things like that↑ I noticed that "as long as your cute pale n skinny young girl, ANYONE can be idols" even if you don't have talents, that's Japanese idol "singers" to you smh---seems pretty ridiculous right??...Well, that's the truth in Japanese showbiz. And they even mock their "English language" that PenPineApple Song!! Wtf lol embarrassing but funny in a way. Great news is that Japanese showbiz this generation is also starting to recruit REAL talented singers like Nishino Kana and other solo singers etc., no lip syncing even in live (Though Utada Hikaru is quite already known even from older generation, I just want to mention she is really talented too). A very nice change in Japanese showbiz!
+I Was Named Did U Knoe Dat well like i said it was back then i used to listen to kpop as much as Jpop/Jrock. even they didn't lip sync when live they sound bad for example SNSD/Girl Generation the only Kpop group that can sing just 2ne1 back then. but yeah i have no idea what current Kpop showbiz is. anyway even in Kpop i believe they did the same thing but i agree in term of training they are different with Jpop group like AKB. but isn't it Jpop already diverse in term of training or even when they recruited new idol? there are groups like momusu, E-girls, or Faky their recording sounds good but sometimes on live stage they are bad especially E-girls. Jpop are not only just pretty, pale, skinny girls anyway, like you said solo singers like kanna nishino for example, but also there are so many talented singers from current generations like Eir aoi, LISA, superfly, Aimer, supercell, anime song singers, and many other solo Jpop singer. Also artist from older generations like Utada hikaru, Mika Nakashima, Bonnie Pink, Koda kumi, Namire Amuro, Crystal Kay, they are still relevant today especially to international fans. prolly you hate idol groups like babymetal, You'll melt more, Momoclo, or BiSH but IMO for me they sound different from typical idol group/ girl band and that's why to me they are special and most of them are not typical pretty from AKB members IMO singing isn't the only important things but what you can deliver, especially to these days everything sound so similar with hiphop gang rap or whatever. And Most of Jpop can give something different experiences sometimes cringy yes but sometimes you can focus the catchy tunes when most Jpop artist own it. The only problem from Jpop just "INTERNET"
Super Ultra Hyper Sayumi Time Even I hate the internet XD sometimes though, some dumb people or kids trying to act like they're smart adults smh ...But I see, I thought Japanese instead of internet should focus on global languages and cultural influences on theirs music; that's when I think Japanese showbiz will do fine ;} and btw, they're other awesome kpop singers, what are you talking about? Like Ailee a Korean singer singing her cover of Whitney Houston's famous song..LIVE, just astounding. And kpop boy band NCT U - the seventh sense music video...I'm just in awe. Go ahead and judge that freely to yourself when watching those. And yes I agree about Bonnie Pink, Crystal Kay they're awesome and superfly and supercell. Da voice actress singer Mizuki Nana is talented too (I also think KyariPamuPamu has adorable fun creative songs XD quite catchy).
+I Was Named Did U Knoe Dat i can't really say about kids on internet lol me sometimes being dumb on internet XD. i agree with global languages and i think there are already global languages in Jpop especially english and french. but still IMO the most important think is internet. there are so many favorite songs from Jpop/Jrock but aren't available on ITunes or spotify also they always have copyright strike to few tribute videos to JPop artist on internet. They are diverse and don't need cultural influences but it's just my opinion tho. oh i believe there are so many talented singers in Kpop but i've no idea who NCT-U and ailee are. if you are Kpop fans you prolly know Tohoshinki, Younha, urban zakapa they are great Kpop musicians i've ever know but if we stereotype all Kpop are great singers because of them i don't think so lol. similar to Jpop i can't stereotype all Jpop suck in singing because of AKB even in AKB there are so many hidden gems like sayaka yamamoto her voice was good when she covered l'arc - ready steady go. if you happen to like kyary pamyu pamyu i suggest you Perfume especially their old stuff Yasutaka Nakata was the best on Perfume era. also Perfume actually can sing but they happened to Electropop group concept then most of the time they use autotune but on point :) there are so many talented artist in Jpop but due to most of ignorant Jpop major companies then you rarely see their gems on internet
그건 변명밖에 안된다. 세계1위 시장의 미국가수들은 월드투어를 통해서 더 많은 돈을 벌어들이고 세계문화의 중심지 역할을 한다. 돈도 더 많이 벌고 그들의 문화를 세계 곳곳에 퍼뜨리고 자부심을 가진다. 그렇다면 시장의 크기를 운운하는 건 우물안 개구리의 논리가 아닌가? 아직까지 그런 마인드를 갖고 있는 한 절대 j-pop이 세계에서 활약하는 모습은 볼 수 없다.
当事者でありながらここまで客観的に分析していて、なおかつ自分のいる立場の方が劣っているとカメラの前ではっきりと言い切れるのはすごい堅実さだと思う。危機感をしっかり噛み砕いて問題点洗い出して改善できる人だから何年もトップシーンで活躍されているんだろうな。HYDEさんのライブを見たり音楽に触れていると感じるけど、キャリアが長いのに新たなことを取り入れたり挑戦することにもとてもポジティブな人だから取り残されずにいるというのも大いにあると思う。本物のカリスマだ。
Pretty insightful on HYDE'S part. One of the biggest reasons for the rise of kpop is their production value but most importantly their ACCESSIBILITY. In the early 2000's Japan really hit their stride with the international market but it became increasingly monotonous with newer less individualistic acts and the fact you couldn't even stream old favorites. It's not that kpop is better but they know how to maximize the market.
私は韓国人ですが、深い歴史と多様性を持っている日本の芸術家たちを尊敬します。
日本はバンド音楽が世界的な水準なので、韓国のポップ文化とともに力を合わせてアジアの地位が上がると幸せだと思います。
バンド内での音楽性の違いのことをこんなに正直言えるhydeさんすごい
逆に言わないまま続けられてる方がお互いにストレスだったと思うし、これくらい振り切って何でも言ってくれた方が安心できる
私はまさにk-popにどハマりしてJ-popなんて全く聞いてなかったけどまさかの今L'Arc〜en〜Cielにハマってます､､､､
yeah can relate
hydeさんのやりたい事を、ただやっていって欲しい。彼の人生なのだから。
この動画を観た時、正直この手のテーマはコメント荒れたりするのかと思いきや皆さん冷静に捉えてて好印象
With all my respect to Kpop fans, but there are few Korean musicians that can compare to Japanese artist like H.Y.D.E, Miyavi and Exile.
H.Y.D.E. doesn't need to regret anything, since many years ago he sang in English and his music had reached uncountable people, that's why Vamps and his Solo career will never die.
He had so much experience and he renovates himself. I don't think that he needs to worry at all.
共感でしかない…
8年後の今この動画を見ても，ハイドさんのKーPOP台頭の所は良く分析してるなあと思う。
葛藤か，，色んな媒体でこの事を言及してるよね。この前SMILEを聴いていたら，ハイドさんの言ってる意味が凄く良く分かった。feeling fineとか，苦労したんだろうなって思えました。
Thanks for the English translation for me to understand Hyde more thoroughly! ^^
スゴく的確で客観的な意見だと思う。事実今の日本の音楽は本当に停滞している。完全に世界から取り残されてる。
Japan has exile,Hyde, one ok Rock, namie Amuro (even tho she's retired) anime ost, great voices,concerts,dance, visual appeal ECT ECT.
The only thing they messed up is not interacting with fans, promoting globally,and offish one RUclipsr, Twitter, Facebook and ig
Sigh, we're stuck with K-pop for the time being but I hope Japan does better in next few years.
売り出し方上手いんだよなぁ
それはビジネス全般に言えることだけど
確かにj-popは日本受けはいいけど世界では受けにくい。
俺はj-popも好きだし日本のアイドルも好きだし(乃木坂 欅坂)ラウドロックもメタルもハードロックもdjentもk-popも洋楽も好きでオールジャンルでよく聴くけどk-popは世界に受けるよね。
洋楽のような音楽に世界的にもレベルの高いイケメンが踊って歌って英語も日本語も覚えて曲も自分たちで作る。整形だからという人もいるだろうけどそこも努力して今､世界的に売れていることに繋がってると思う。
日本人は韓国に批判的な人が多いけど陰ながら多くの努力をしてるから俺は韓国も応援する。
これは間違いないね。勿論、日本は色んな面で優れてると思うけど、変化してく社会で、現状維持の行動は退化してるってことだから、音楽だけじゃなく、考えさせられる言葉だ。
hydeの喋り方好き
うん、僕が思ってることそのまんっま言ってくれてめっちゃ気持ちいいw
まさに俺が言いたいことをそのまんま言ってくれた。
truly the way his mind writing amazing songs always come with his level head in such insightful ways. Truly, HYDE and LEC members always so wise and intellect whenever they give an answer. For what Hyde said about Kpop is truly right. They have massive production and plan once the group debut and even before high training and maintaining be keeping to the idols with many lessons of foreign languages or already recruit ones from abroad for accessible communication with fans. Somehow at this time of interview, Kpop that recognize by Hyde must be Tohoshinki as they make their name so much bigger in BigEast or Japan and Japan society themself accept them warmly and enjoy their music, some maybe like it more compared to other Jpop. In case of Rock in Asia, no one can beat Japan from then to now. They are still leading the culture of Rock in Asia, for sure. For Pop its could not be discredit that Kpop really taking the world now. From PSY to BTS and Blackpink recently.. those not without endless trial and fail by other Kpop artist trying to enter western or world music.. but they keep trying until it make a break through. Again, Hyde said is right, the vision is different between Jpop and Kpop since the beginning.. the other aim local while later seeking the world approval. Yet, I love in this interview Hyde well understood this point and instead of saying unnecessarily stuff, he went to deliver his life motto (kinda implied at the end) that even you getting older never stop to pursue your dream. I always know that LEC is a forever treasure for him, while in the other side projects solo and VAMPS are his journey to find who is yourself. Because is this life of journey that all about.
プロになろうと命がてで頑張ってるやつが成功してほしい。そんな世の中になってほしい。ただかわいいからって、かっこいいからってデビューできちゃうのはおかしい。
まさに今の日本の音楽ね😭
そういうアーティストを次から次へとデビューさせるもんだから曲も大量に作ることになって結果どれも中身スッカスカのラブソングとかになるんだよなw
AとKとなんとかってやつやな。
hydeさんはラルクが嫌いではないですし、ファンにそう思われるのは悲しいとファンクラブイベントでおっしゃっていました。
どちらが好き嫌いとかそう言うことではないんですよ。
自分もそう思います。
ラルクの周年記念ライブでは折に触れて気持ちを語られていますものね。
なによりどんなものでも「好きだけ、気持ちいい事だけ、楽しい事だけ」って無いわけで
我々だって家族でも友達でも仕事仲間でも全てに裏表の感情が有るのですから
【L'Arc-en-Ciel】を語る時に良い面・悪い面が出ても当然で自然に感じます。
嫌な事は語るな！触れるな！表すな！って言い分で良いモノだけ見たいってリアクションだと
それこそ商売人と客のお金だけの関係になってしまう。
ラルクメンバーがファンへ本音を語ってくれてそれを受け入れる
この関係はただの商売を越えた関係だと思うので
時に辛いことでもしっかり見て居たいですね。
自分で嫌いって言ってましたよ。
佐伯真依子
言ってないですよ笑
@@佐伯真依子-t9i 当然のように嘘付いてて草
hyde an intellectual as always, admire him so much
握手券商法でAKB！嵐！EXILE！アニメ！！ってなってる今の日本の音楽シーンについての意見も聞きたい
さすらいのオタク わかります！
そうしないと買わない購買側にも問題あるよ
EXILEは人数増えてからうわってなりましたしね。あれは好きだっただけに嫌になりました。
それを汲んでラルクも一回やってください🙏🙏🙏ニューアルバム聴きたい！
自分も関西人やから、関西弁のHYDEが一番しっくりきます（笑）
アニメやマンガ、歌舞伎や相撲などは世界に誇れると思うけど
日本の音楽だけは世界に誇れない、逆に恥ずかしいくらい。特に現行のJ-POP
I like songs such as "SHINSHOKU ~ lose control ~", "HEAVEN'S DRIVE", and "NEO UNIVERSE" by L'Arc ~ en ~ Ciel. Actually, I like the production of Hajime Okano, a former bassist of PINK. He is a talent and idea person. Please listen to PINK's "NAKED CHILD". He plays an incredible baseline. Needless to say, the origin of J-Rock is in Western culture. It seems strange that "J-Rock is okay only in Japan". Mr. Hyde's comment is correct and I can agree. It's clear which one between K-POP IDOL and J-POP IDOL will work harder and expand their own talents, I think.
そうなんだよね。何か信じたたくないけど事実なんだよね。
日本の問題は、あまりグローバル化という事を意識しないからねぇ。昔からの閉鎖的な国で成り立っていたから。だから、国際的なコミュニケーションは大事だと実感される。
I personally love k pop. I don't care if other people don't. I love that Hyde doesn't hate it.
this was posted two years ago but lol i just wanted to put my two cents on this XDD i honestly think social media had a huge impact on kpop's rise. kpop artists went to social media and started interacting with fans, drawing them in. they'd go on variety shows or made their own content, allowing others to get to know them and be more drawn in because now they aren't just talented, they're really funny and relatable too!
i honestly think laruku would've gotten more global attention if they were more active when social media started to rise. they've got it all: great music, the actual talent of composing and producing their own albums, memorable quirky personalities, not to mention great visuals! i love kpop and their artists make me happy, but jrock will always be more superior for me XDD
底辺バンドの分際で同列に語るのは申し訳ないけど、バンドしてたらやりたくないことをやらないといけないことがあるのは本当に分かる。3~5人で集まる以上自分のやりたい曲だけをやる訳にはいかない。でも、メンバーとバンドに対する気持ちとは全く関係ないよ。ラルクファン(自分もだけど)は何も心配しなくてもいいと思う。
X JAPANが底辺バンドとは到底思えないが？w
@@natyure5044
ちゃんと読みな
自分が組んでるバンドの事を底辺って表してる
Xの事を底辺なんて書かれてない
国内外でこれだけ知名度があるのはラルクだけやな。
ラルクでコンスタントに活動してれば今頃とんでもない高みに登ってただろうにな
Japan's rock probably has a bigger international influence and maybe should develop more in that way. The more mainstream JPOPs in recent 2-5 years are all pretty boring, how do I put it...
Explain pls
Because j-pop is not as boring as j-rock these days lmao
韓国のアーティストから尊敬されてるHYDEって凄いけどね
ラルクはメンバーのやる気があったら世界ワンチャンあったんじゃねw
K-POPの世界での活躍は本当に凄いけど、J-POPにはJ-POPにしかない良さも確実にあるから世界受けを狙い過ぎてその良さを失わないで欲しいなとも思う。
それこそ日本語の発声的に(？)英語の発音が苦手だからそれが得意な海外と同じ土俵で闘うのはかなり不利…
逆に海外の人は日本語の発音が難しいと聞くし。
日本人はJ-POPにしかない良さを武器に海外の凄さも吸収しながら進化して行って欲しいな
hydeさんクラスになると感受性や分析力もレベチですね
要約すると「韓国は輸出が上手い」だよな。それまさにその通りだわ。
日本は中小企業も強いし、それぞれだからね。
韓国はK-POPがほぼ国営。政府も国益かねて予算も割いてる。
クオリティの高さとか努力とかも評価されてるのにただ「輸出がうまい」の一言で済ませるのは不当だと思います。
う～ん、個人的にはK-popが上がったってより、J-popが落ちたって感じてる。８０～９０年代は本当に良かった。今のJ-popやK-popの音楽には惹かれない。
Hydeはラルクが嫌いなわけではないんだろうけど、本当にやりたい音楽はvampsにあるんだろうな。
hydeが何かのインタビューで
｢ラルクは仕事、VAMPSは趣味｣
みたいなことを言ってた。
仕事と趣味のどっちが楽しいかって聞かれたらそりゃ趣味だよね。
mucho gusto
てっちゃんとkenちゃんが作る音楽はそんなに好きじゃないんだろうけど、世間がラルクに求めるものはそこにあるからhydeも歌うんだろうな。仕事と趣味は割り切ってていいと思う。
ラルクは家族みたいなものでVAMPSは自分の部屋に居るみたいって言ってた
Takumi
いい例えだね。
Lime mint 10
いや、kenちゃんの曲は好きだと思いますよ。自分が表現したいと思ってることを形にしきれない時、kenちゃんが奇跡的にそのタイミングで作ってきてくれたって言ってること多いですから。虹、叙情詩など。
ラルクはビジネスサイド
ソロは自己表現
音楽は優劣ではないんじゃないかなあ。もうHYDEさんはそろそろ商業音楽を離れて好きに音楽やっても許されると思うけど。
背けてた現実を突きつけられた感じ
がんばれニッポン！
ラルクのメンバーが仲悪いって言われてるけど25年やってていつも一緒にいたら逆に気持ち悪くない？
hydeの冗談の発言をネタにしてる奴等がそうに言ってるだけかもしれないけどね。
芸人で言えばダウンタウンやホンジャマカだって移動も楽屋は別だしプライベートでも会わない。
ダウンタウンなんか連絡先すら知らないし。
長くやってれば仲を悪くしたい奴って出てくるんだよね。
興味深い話。しかしこういう話をすると、日本のアイドルをやたらと批判したがる輩が騒ぎだすのは残念。
批判されて当然やろ
since everyone is giving their opinion I'm going to give mine okay
I have seen that jpop has been decreasing and kpop is on the rise but there are very few that really captivate the public, not only because of the way they sing but also because of the way they are sung. And they get into the role of the music they play, even on top of that some have no talent but the public accepts them because they are just beautiful, but very few look at the real talent
And that shows, that some people no longer appreciate the true talent and charisma of the artist.I'll be honest, jpop and kpop used to be very good, their music was good.
Jpop was very good in the 70s and 80s and kpop from 1991 to 2013, although clearly they still see many good artists, but they are very few in both countries. I think the problem is that in kpop they put a lot of rap and that does not show their true vocal range and in jpop they put a lot of tenderness with AKB and Nagizaka which does not show their true vocal range either I think that if there were no groups and only pure soloists, their true vocal range could be noticed more, not only that for jpop and kpop but also for any artist or group . The same thing happens in cpop, a lot of rap is put there, and they do not show their vocal range of their artist I think they should give their solo to each member of each group and see how her charisma is expressed, his way of dancing, his way of singing and especially if he plays the role of the music that he or she is playing.
I don't care. Hyde is the best.
AKBとTWICEの違いを見れば明らか
日本の音楽がターゲットを世界に向ければ経済潤うだろうな。
L'Arc～en～Cielというバンドに出会ったのが、98年。
honey。火葬。侵食。
そして arc ray という、2大アルバム。
このL'Arc～en～Cielが最も輝いていた時期のうち、どれくらいが、Hydeさんのやりたかった音楽なんだろうか?
在りし日のL'Arc～en～Cielに憧れて、ギターを握り 自らもミュージシャンを志した。
自分の憧れた先人の残した名作が、実は「妥協の産物」だったと公言されているようで、本当に哀しい。
k-popは正直今更流れを変えられないが、「音楽」というビジネスに、虚しさを感じる。
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だいぶ前のコメントへの返信になりますが、すべてを妥協していた訳ではないと思いますよ。
HONEYは自分でも今だに自信作っていうようなこと言ってたし、
kenちゃんの曲は絶賛することが多いから、tetsuyaのキャッチーな曲には苦手意識があって、頑張って合わせてたのは大きいんじゃないかと思いますけど。
KAORI J HONEYは最初全くいい曲だと思わなかったけれど、最近いいなと思うようになったと言ってましたよ。
売れに売れて、リリースラッシュだった頃はレコード会社からも「もっともっと売れる曲を！もっともっともっと！」と言われてただろうし、kenも「このままだとラルクは売れないと言われて苦しかった。こんな曲が売れるんだろうと考えながらtrueを作った」と言っていたし、メンバー全員が葛藤しながら活動してきたと思う。
やりたい事があるから、ソロやVANPSを始めたのだろうし。
日本で売れなきゃいけない、でも海外進出したいし、自分がやりたい音楽もあって...このバランスを取りながら、歩くべき道を探し続けるのは本当に大変だと思うけど、海外を見るhyde、作曲の才能に長けたken、商業的な目線を持つtetsuya、出しゃばらず後ろからメンバーを支えるyukihiroの4人だから出来るのだと思うし、L'Arc〜en〜Cielが活動を続けてくれる事は本当に嬉しく思います。
annie だいぶ遅れての返信になりますが…この前の黒ミサでもHONEYは最初からかっこいいと思ってたって言ってたんですけどね…。flowerは20年経って最近やっといい曲と思うようになったって言ってましたけどね。
おっしゃってることは本当、同感です(^ ^)
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ark , ray , REALはHYDE、kenにとってやりたい音楽に近い作風だったと思いますよ。
やりたいハードロックとまではいかないけれど、それ以前の曲よりソリッドなロックという意味において。
現にHYDEソロでHONEY、ヘブドラはセルフカバー、anemoneの路線を汲んだレントゲンなど今につながっている源流の一つとも言えます。
その妥協という制約なかで、曲中でどれだけ自分の表現を良いものにできるかを考えてたりしてたんかなー
HYDEさんラルクやりましょう！
K POPに圧勝できます！
Hyde the best its you☆☆☆☆☆
正直な人ではある。だから誤解もされやすい。ただこのまま公のインタビューでVAMPSをやる上でL'Arc～en～Cielを引き合いに出し続けるとファンは誤解し続けてどんどん離れていってしまうよ。
+ガブリエル
嫌いではないと思うけど、正直好きでもないと思います。 「このバンドやっぱ大好き。やっぱラルク最高！」っていうような愛情はhydeには無いんだと思います。昔はあったのかもしれませんが...。
たぶんバンドのネームブランドもでかくなってしまって、ホントは振りきったロックバンドが前からやりたいんだと思いますけどラルクは売れてしまったからどこかアイドル的な見られ方もしてしまうし、tetsuyaの曲とかはドポップだから歌うにも葛藤やストレスはあるんじゃないかと。
でもkenの曲があるからhydeはラルクがまだ楽しいと思えて好きなのかなぁとも思いますね。
それでも自分のソロを語るのにラルクを引き合いに出すのはどうかなぁと思いますけどね...。
全部とは言わないけどhydeの好きだった音楽はラルクとは違うんだよな
そんなVAMPSも活動休止しちゃいましたね。。
approach the global audience through social networking.
even the "western" Rock&Metal musicians old and new used this methods.
Up your game FFS.
俺はアイドルが好きだし、日本のアイドルはみんな可愛いと思う。文化としても誇るべきだと思う。
けどやっぱ音楽としてきちんとしたアーティストが売れて欲しい。そして今そういうアーティストが出てきていないのが現状(まぁ去年くらいからだんだん出てきてホッとしてる)
It's been a long time, however I want to give my opinion.
I think it's unfair to compare Kpop with Jrok, both are the best at what they do, I say L'Arc en Ciel has no comparison with BTS for example, they are different genres and generations, however, I do believe that Japanese musicians are lagging behind in terms of communication with fans, for example L'Arc en Ciel is loved in Latin America but they will never play a concert here.
k pop dont know how to make evergreen music. indeed their music was easy listening but just for a while. not like japanese musician like l arc en ciel, we still remember their song from first album. k pop just disgrace of music.
うーん、そんなに海外進出が大事かなぁ。まぁ、アーティストそれぞれの考えになるけど、
そんな事より自分達が気持よければえんじゃね？
それに共感してくれる人が日本にいるか海外にいるかだけで。
偉そうに失礼しました。
なっかん
文化っていうものはある種侵略的な側面を持つ。
こちらがガラパゴス化しようとしたとしても外国が目線を外に向けている限り、日本にもどんどん海外の文化は流入して来る。
結果トラディショナルな文化の密度は薄れていく。
対外的なアプローチをもって外側の目線を持つこと、輸出入からのフィードバックを循環させていくこと。
それが日本独自のスタイルを保持し育むことに繋がる。
それを良しとするか否かはそれぞれの自由。
30年前くらいは外国人達に、
「寿司なんて生の魚食べるの！？気持ち悪い！」「ライスってウジ虫みたいだ！こんなのを日本人は食べてるのか！？ゲテモノ食いだ！」
と散々言われてたのに……今や世界でも空前の日本食ブームだもんね。
日本人が良いと思っているものをちゃんとやっていれば、何年後かに認められ出すような気がするわ。
ひろゆきも同じこと言ってたな
何年前か。もうブームは去りましたよ
BITE ME お前はな。
BITE ME いやいや。宣伝はしてるけど去ってるよ。ｗ
別に何でもいいけど。こんなコメントしたことも忘れてた
あと、別にディスるつもり全くないし、Jpopが人気になってほしいとも思ってないから、人気だと思ってていいよ。
BITE ME 悔しいか？
まだブームだよドンマイ
もう日本の「カワイイ」「ヴィジュアル系」は時代遅れなんだよ。
文化全てがニッチなオタク化してるんだよね
それで成功したのは漫画やアニメだけど、音楽はキツイよね。
ショービジネスだけで言えばhydeの言う通りかもしれないけど
その海外狙いのK-POPが長続きするとは正直、思えない。
反対に狙ってないJ-POPが海外で愛されてることのほうが
凄いことだと思いますよ。
クオリティーが低い
ただ日本のものものね…w
日本はラルクが出てきた９０年代や２０００年代と今は全く日本の音楽業界が変わってしまった 握手会
5年前私もそう思いけど、今K-popはまずまず人気になっていくよ、アメリカまで
何年続けば長続きだと思うの？
そもそも日本で新人が育ってると思うの？
新陳代謝できずに老化してしまっているのがJPOP
K-POPって本当に人気なの？韓国は国をあげてすぐにやらせ工作するからな。
韓国人RUclipsrがアメリカで、「BTSを知っていますか？」ってアメリカ人にインタビューしまくって、誰も知らないと言う…。
米の有名アーティスト達を抜かして1位の人達のはずなのに なんで誰も知らないんだよ、っていう。
そのRUclipsrの人も「やっぱりね」って感じでした。
韓国人の集まるサイトでも、多数はそれをわかってるみたいで。
「我々は自国のアーティストを上位にさせるためならよく動く」
「自国の者が馬鹿にされた時などに、国民がこぞって馬鹿にした相手にネット凸する民族は他にいないと思う。」
とも書いてあるよ。
@@beth0703 ほんとやなぁ
あなたもハイさんも先見の明がある
Of course KPOP is always ALWAYS going to be seen on top; they have talents and are globally successful for their NON-fake performances, and also been learning to speak other languages---which is REALLY IMPORTANT if they want their music to be known.
most of Kpop lip sync anyway but it was back then, i have no idea what current kpop is, every country have their own fake performances anyway. also rock band like L'arc or One ok rock even babymetal rarely doing fake performances.i agree with you about languages but Japan need more internet friendly first before even focus to learn other languages. for example L'arc-en-ciel (Hyde's band) they don't even upload their official MV on youtube.
so the only important point to export Jpop, Jrock, or Jwhatever to other countries first is just INTERNET FRIENDLY. this is freaking 2017 and Japan still hate internet wtf
Super Ultra Hyper Sayumi Time I've never even heard of kpop lip syncing singers before though (have you actually listened to any kpop songs? I doubt it) most of them undergo about 6 years of training before their official debut you know ( and it is no wonder a lot of them quit due to harsh treatment from their own company and no rest, many scandals resulting like singer dancers VS money-hungry company news in Korea) And I've never heard of Japanese artists doing such things like that↑ I noticed that "as long as your cute pale n skinny young girl, ANYONE can be idols" even if you don't have talents, that's Japanese idol "singers" to you smh---seems pretty ridiculous right??...Well, that's the truth in Japanese showbiz. And they even mock their "English language" that PenPineApple Song!! Wtf lol embarrassing but funny in a way. Great news is that Japanese showbiz this generation is also starting to recruit REAL talented singers like Nishino Kana and other solo singers etc., no lip syncing even in live (Though Utada Hikaru is quite already known even from older generation, I just want to mention she is really talented too). A very nice change in Japanese showbiz!
+I Was Named Did U Knoe Dat well like i said it was back then i used to listen to kpop as much as Jpop/Jrock. even they didn't lip sync when live they sound bad for example SNSD/Girl Generation the only Kpop group that can sing just 2ne1 back then. but yeah i have no idea what current Kpop showbiz is. anyway even in Kpop i believe they did the same thing but i agree in term of training they are different with Jpop group like AKB. but isn't it Jpop already diverse in term of training or even when they recruited new idol? there are groups like momusu, E-girls, or Faky their recording sounds good but sometimes on live stage they are bad especially E-girls. Jpop are not only just pretty, pale, skinny girls anyway, like you said solo singers like kanna nishino for example, but also there are so many talented singers from current generations like Eir aoi, LISA, superfly, Aimer, supercell, anime song singers, and many other solo Jpop singer. Also artist from older generations like Utada hikaru, Mika Nakashima, Bonnie Pink, Koda kumi, Namire Amuro, Crystal Kay, they are still relevant today especially to international fans. prolly you hate idol groups like babymetal, You'll melt more, Momoclo, or BiSH but IMO for me they sound different from typical idol group/ girl band and that's why to me they are special and most of them are not typical pretty from AKB members
IMO singing isn't the only important things but what you can deliver, especially to these days everything sound so similar with hiphop gang rap or whatever. And Most of Jpop can give something different experiences sometimes cringy yes but sometimes you can focus the catchy tunes when most Jpop artist own it. The only problem from Jpop just "INTERNET"
Super Ultra Hyper Sayumi Time Even I hate the internet XD sometimes though, some dumb people or kids trying to act like they're smart adults smh ...But I see, I thought Japanese instead of internet should focus on global languages and cultural influences on theirs music; that's when I think Japanese showbiz will do fine ;} and btw, they're other awesome kpop singers, what are you talking about? Like Ailee a Korean singer singing her cover of Whitney Houston's famous song..LIVE, just astounding. And kpop boy band NCT U - the seventh sense music video...I'm just in awe. Go ahead and judge that freely to yourself when watching those. And yes I agree about Bonnie Pink, Crystal Kay they're awesome and superfly and supercell. Da voice actress singer Mizuki Nana is talented too (I also think KyariPamuPamu has adorable fun creative songs XD quite catchy).
+I Was Named Did U Knoe Dat i can't really say about kids on internet lol me sometimes being dumb on internet XD. i agree with global languages and i think there are already global languages in Jpop especially english and french. but still IMO the most important think is internet. there are so many favorite songs from Jpop/Jrock but aren't available on ITunes or spotify also they always have copyright strike to few tribute videos to JPop artist on internet. They are diverse and don't need cultural influences but it's just my opinion tho. oh i believe there are so many talented singers in Kpop but i've no idea who NCT-U and ailee are. if you are Kpop fans you prolly know Tohoshinki, Younha, urban zakapa they are great Kpop musicians i've ever know but if we stereotype all Kpop are great singers because of them i don't think so lol. similar to Jpop i can't stereotype all Jpop suck in singing because of AKB even in AKB there are so many hidden gems like sayaka yamamoto her voice was good when she covered l'arc - ready steady go. if you happen to like kyary pamyu pamyu i suggest you Perfume especially their old stuff Yasutaka Nakata was the best on Perfume era. also Perfume actually can sing but they happened to Electropop group concept then most of the time they use autotune but on point :) there are so many talented artist in Jpop but due to most of ignorant Jpop major companies then you rarely see their gems on internet
まあこの5年くらいでアイドルばかり音楽番組に出てくる状況は変わってきたよね。音楽番組あまり見ないけど。
焦り？hydeの
あちらの政府からの国策というのもあるが、hydeの言う通り確かにK-POPの海外における輸出戦略は上手いと思う。でも、ただそれだけなんだよな。
どのグループも同じような容姿、曲でグループそれぞれのこれといった個性があまりないというのに奴等が気づかない限りは、その戦略が長続きするとは俺は到底思えない。
そういう妙な戦略を利用しなくても愛される音楽こそ本物だよ。
AKBとジャニーズも同じでしょう？しかもKpopより下手くそ
KPOPなんて韓国音楽シーンの極々一部、その一部のさらに薄いところしか知らないのに全て知った風で語り、無知を自慢するのがどうもね
hydeの完敗宣言はそんな向上心のない無知ばかりな日本市場リスナー込みの話
ラルクのライブ行きたいけど…
日本と韓国で発達しているというか、優れている音楽のジャンルが違うだけにも思える。ポップスなんかはもちろん韓国だけど、ロック音楽においては断然日本。V系は海外ファンも多いし。韓国ではロックなんて存在してないんじゃないかっていうくらい発達してない。
みずきよ でもそのFTISLANDくらいでしょ。
ロックが古いだけですよ…
I'm sorry but i'll said "say NOT to kpop" 🤚🏾
하이도 보고싶다
すごいカメラワークやな
私はk-popは、世界に商業的にウケる技術だけ目指した薄っぺらいものに、見えちゃう。レベルは高いかもしれないけど。整形されて成形されて生計してる人。ドール感が。それってアートなのかなぁ。商品な気がしちゃう。
でもでも、k-popを批判する必要なんてなかったんだけど、何が言いたいって、ラルクは、本当に本当に最高だよー✨✨✨。
アート。ロックかは分からないけど、最上級のアートです。
全くHydeの言う通り。まだ鎖国やってるのかよ。最初から世界を狙って行けよ。日本人でかっこ良いのはYoshikiとHydeだけだ。BTSに勝てるグループ他に日本にいないだろ！
あなたが鎖国状態じゃないですか笑
二人より海外で活躍してる方はたくさんいますよ。
音がカッコいいのは認める
ダサいもん日本
ガングリオン そんな単純な話してるわけじゃないでしょうに
でも、kpopアーティストって長く表舞台で続けられないよね
長くて東方神起やBIGBANGぐらい
日本アーティストは結構残る
韓国だけだと成り立たないから海外に出てるってのも理由の1つ
K-POPは海外に向けられてるけど個性がないからいまいち華が開かないと自分は思ってるな
世界を狙うなら追いつくというよりはJ-POPの英語化や広報活動の強化が一番やるべきことだと思う
ラルクだってTV出て売れたわけだし
現状、日本のアーティストが海外に広く知られる場所がほとんどない
そう思いません、今の時代はyoutube 、SNSの方が重要です
韓国は英語も力入れてるからね。
日本語は日本だけだし。
ただ、日本は世界で2番目の大きい音楽市場。日本だけでも全然やっていけてしまうからじゃないかな。
韓国は韓国だけではやっていけず、国外へ出るしかない。
そしてK-POPは国益を兼ねてるから、国が予算も割いてる。
ま、サムスンと一緒かな。
でも国営にすると、それぞれの強さがなくなるね。
日本は大企業はもとより、中小企業もそれぞれ個々の力で頑張れるから 全体が崩れにくい。
他の人も言ってるけど、k-popがすごいというより、日本の音楽のレベルがとてつもなく落ちている。
70年代〜90年代素晴らしい音楽を作ったアーティストはたくさんいたのに、
最近は昔のアーティストたちのモノマネ、パクリ、アイドルに関してはそのやり方にオマケをつけて売ったりと音楽自体が大量生産のチープなものになっている。
正直k-popみたいなダンスミュージックは聴かないし苦手だが、
日本の今のダンスミュージックがお遊戯に見えるほどレベルが高いと思う
K-pop, they can dancing but they can not singing
hydeどうした？
kpopはアイドルしかいねえぞ
そんな事はない、無知を自慢されても。。。
全ての音楽ジャンルでKPOPというか韓国音楽は日本を上回ってる
層の厚さが驚愕を受けるほどに違う
社会に街に生活に音楽が満ち溢れているのが韓国の実態
Ki アイドルしかいないのは確かだけどアイドルは見せ方のくくりであって音楽の種類のことでは無いから、アイドルでもPOPな曲・演歌・歌謡曲・ラップ・ロックなど色んなジャンルを歌えて踊れるから、ハイたんが一目置くのも無理は無いと思う
Ki 自分がアイドルしか知らないだけって発想がないんだ。惨め。
@@katuch673 それはないやろwww知ったかするなよww
popsだけしかねぇーよ
ジャズやロック等は遥かに日本のが発達してるしレベルも高い
@@くれ-m3m
知ったかしてるのはおまえな
日本のエンタメ界は過去の資産に頼るだけの静かな死を迎えようとしてる感じ
POPでもジャズでもロックでもクラッシックでも全てに活気がない＜利権・老害＞
キミみたく韓国の表面だけを見て、日本の過去に縋るような事はやめねーとな
blog.livedoor.jp/miles1950/archives/1584414.html
「もちろん数字上は、日本が演奏家とファンは多いでしょう。しかし韓国のジャズ界には、日本にない活気溢れる元気があります。熱情とでもいいましょうか、音楽に対する、喉の力とでもいいましょうか。日本のジャズ界は、元気を失っています。私は韓国の音楽から、希望を発見したのです」
唯一の韓国音楽界の欠点はジャンルが乏しいくらいかな
日本語や韓国語のような膠着語と西洋音楽理論はうまく適合しない
Kpopは母国語を捨て、Jpopは日本語を捨てない
韓国語の歯切れの良い発音が西洋音楽とマッチしたからヒットした。
英語っぽく聞こえるだけで、実際はほとんど韓国語。
あー😩言っちゃった
なんでそんなこというの
うる 現実を受け入れましたいま。
でもラルクやらないじゃん ソロは誰かの焼き増しみたいな洋楽被れじゃん。
でも日本の音楽市場が世界2位なんだから国内向けが多いのは必然なんじゃない？そこをスルーして、ただ世界への発信をしてないからってのは少し違う気がするけどな
別に世界進出が凄いとも何とも思わんけどな
だから日本の音楽が落ちていくってのもなぁ
国内でも世界へ目を向けていようが音楽を作る心は同じだから質も変わらんやろと思うけどな
그건 변명밖에 안된다. 세계1위 시장의 미국가수들은 월드투어를 통해서 더 많은 돈을 벌어들이고 세계문화의 중심지 역할을 한다. 돈도 더 많이 벌고 그들의 문화를 세계 곳곳에 퍼뜨리고 자부심을 가진다. 그렇다면 시장의 크기를 운운하는 건 우물안 개구리의 논리가 아닌가? 아직까지 그런 마인드를 갖고 있는 한 절대 j-pop이 세계에서 활약하는 모습은 볼 수 없다.