I applaud CW for their effort and I like that they used their in-house movement. However, a few things could have been improved. The movement looks too industrial and not beautified for a skeleton design. They should put some text/branding on the face of the watch (e.g. print the CW logo on the crystal) and change the spelt out “Christopher Ward” branding on the rotor to the logo (like JLC or Glashutte).
Interesting that these ones are being finished by hand, unlike the Ti model; also these have an engraved rotor. That should be provided in the Ti models as well rather than the flat white text
I have to agree with Terry, I do prefer to feel the weight of my watches and I much prefer steel over titanium. Not sure I have fan of the skeletonisation though
So the Twelve was one of the big things that brought me back into watches. I love the design, however, before making a purchase I moved away from the integrated sports watches. They look good but they also look the same. Also, and again this is why I’m odd, I’m less a fan of full skeletonization I prefer a partial look. This is odd because my first real watch was a full skeleton dial. I like the brand and I’d like to see this movement in more of their pieces. Doing that and they become a solid competitor of Longines and Tudor.
Hi, I’m in the US and when I try to buy the Twelve X Steel, I received the pop-up “you are ineligible to purchase this product”. Do you know of any restrictions to purchasing of this watch. Thank you Regards,
Love the blue, the weight, and the size, but hexagonal bezels and integrated bracelets are getting really dated IMO. Skeletonised dials are not great either but I think I could suffer this one. Have just picked up two Longines Master Collection watches for a grand less (for the pair) and one of them is an annual calendar 😈
Honestly wouldn't be spending that much on a watch from CW. Their QC and customer service seem to be going really down hill as they try and (arguably force) their way up market :/
Too much resemblance to zenith defy classic in my opinion. CW still can't justify the price for their SH21 movement, as their usual line of twelve watches are only a third of the price of this one, the twelve skeleton titanium is around 4500 which is only a little more than this one and even that watch isn't worth 4500 if compared to zenith defy classic, when both are titanium watches 😅 The reason being in my point of view is when both has in house movement and CW says they only make 3x profit from the watch, but zenith has marketing expenses and yet they were priced similarly, therefore this CW 12 steel with SH21 should only be around 3k at most and the titanium twelve with SH21 about 3500-4000, otherwise would you believe CW is only making 3x profit as they pride themselves on? 😅 It's either CW is charging more than their 3x profit as claimed or they have lost it and overrated their pricing... The bel canto however even if they priced it more expensively, it's still unique in the market at that price, with the new classic having much more detailing and the vibe it gives out, CW should be focusing on promoting that instead of trying to justify the price of this 12 with SH21.
I'm sorry man but I don't see the hype over these watches. They look like cheap AliExpress ugly skeleton nh-34 watches LOL Christopher ward has some good pieces but they're trying way too hard to be a luxury brand and I'm sorry but they're not.
Looks amazing. I'm a big fan of the coloured hands - makes all the difference when it comes to legibility.
Another great video
I think the The Twelve (Ti) Astral Blue @ £1595 is hard to beat
I applaud CW for their effort and I like that they used their in-house movement. However, a few things could have been improved. The movement looks too industrial and not beautified for a skeleton design. They should put some text/branding on the face of the watch (e.g. print the CW logo on the crystal) and change the spelt out “Christopher Ward” branding on the rotor to the logo (like JLC or Glashutte).
Interesting that these ones are being finished by hand, unlike the Ti model; also these have an engraved rotor. That should be provided in the Ti models as well rather than the flat white text
Great video as ever guys. It's a good looking watch, no denying that!
The blue is a nice touch along with the hand polishing
Not a fan of skeleton dials but for this id make an exception
Don’t you mean ‘but for this I am making an exception’?
I actually like this. My only issue is that if I went for this I would probably never get around to buying my Zenith Defy.... subbed.
I have to agree with Terry, I do prefer to feel the weight of my watches and I much prefer steel over titanium. Not sure I have fan of the skeletonisation though
So the Twelve was one of the big things that brought me back into watches. I love the design, however, before making a purchase I moved away from the integrated sports watches. They look good but they also look the same. Also, and again this is why I’m odd, I’m less a fan of full skeletonization I prefer a partial look. This is odd because my first real watch was a full skeleton dial. I like the brand and I’d like to see this movement in more of their pieces. Doing that and they become a solid competitor of Longines and Tudor.
I appreciate the fact that it is handmade, and the steel looks good. But I just can't get into a skeleton watch.
To be fair...this is way better finished than . most other warches at this price range.
Hi, I’m in the US and when I try to buy the Twelve X Steel, I received the pop-up “you are ineligible to purchase this product”. Do you know of any restrictions to purchasing of this watch. Thank you
Regards,
Yes please!
Win for the Ti
The lume is impressive
I just wish it had indicies, thats really what's missing for me
The Zenith Defy Skyline has indices
Love the blue, the weight, and the size, but hexagonal bezels and integrated bracelets are getting really dated IMO.
Skeletonised dials are not great either but I think I could suffer this one.
Have just picked up two Longines Master Collection watches for a grand less (for the pair) and one of them is an annual calendar 😈
It's not a hexagon!
Honestly wouldn't be spending that much on a watch from CW. Their QC and customer service seem to be going really down hill as they try and (arguably force) their way up market :/
The customer service that I've had from Christopher Ward has been 100%🤷
Why is this watch so sexy?? 😳
It's lovely. Also Avatar is a waste of everyone's time.
Too much resemblance to zenith defy classic in my opinion.
CW still can't justify the price for their SH21 movement, as their usual line of twelve watches are only a third of the price of this one, the twelve skeleton titanium is around 4500 which is only a little more than this one and even that watch isn't worth 4500 if compared to zenith defy classic, when both are titanium watches 😅
The reason being in my point of view is when both has in house movement and CW says they only make 3x profit from the watch, but zenith has marketing expenses and yet they were priced similarly, therefore this CW 12 steel with SH21 should only be around 3k at most and the titanium twelve with SH21 about 3500-4000, otherwise would you believe CW is only making 3x profit as they pride themselves on? 😅
It's either CW is charging more than their 3x profit as claimed or they have lost it and overrated their pricing...
The bel canto however even if they priced it more expensively, it's still unique in the market at that price, with the new classic having much more detailing and the vibe it gives out, CW should be focusing on promoting that instead of trying to justify the price of this 12 with SH21.
I'm sorry man but I don't see the hype over these watches. They look like cheap AliExpress ugly skeleton nh-34 watches LOL Christopher ward has some good pieces but they're trying way too hard to be a luxury brand and I'm sorry but they're not.
I want to love it but i don't find the movement that nice to look at. It's not a beautiful looking movement.