Mandisa: When You're Struggling with Depression | Better Together TV
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2019
- This week on Better Together, Mandisa speaks on her struggle with depression. Join the conversation as Laurie Crouch, Alex Seeley, Natalie Grant, and Jamie Grace join Mandisa to discuss mental health and the impact that it can have on your life. Listen as they encourage us to invite people into our lives to check on us on dark days.
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She had a hard life. She was raped, struggled with her body image, lost close friends, was never married and never able to have a child. Even in this interview, she told the other singer “you used to be my single friend and now you’re married.” She felt alone.
Mandisa was being very candid about her depression. Unfortunately, she is no longer here. Pray for each other and let’s not judge
Thank you Mandisa for being so Real and Raw! You are a blessing to the Body of Christ❤️
There are times when you just nod your head and accept what is being said but there are also times when you know that person does not understand what you go through with depression. I hope this will open up more discussion on this topic on this show.
Yes.❤
I felt for Mandisa...seemed like a bit of preaching at her. Besides the amazing Jamie..have any of these women, especially the pastor, dealt with clinical, chronic mental illness? It didn't sound like it to me. When your brain is sick...there are times of needed rest and recovery..just like any other part of the body. There needs to be room and grace for that. A balance to the ever popular...just push, keep going. Sometimes it's time to rest.
Jen,
COMPLETELY AGREE Beloved❣️🙏
I felt too that they interrupted her too early and they didnt seem sensitive enough towards how hard it can be to deal with "clinical" depression.
Sometimes we need meds + prayer
@@TheUrbanPrude The Truth!!!
@@TheUrbanPrude #YESandAMEN!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
This is so hard to listen to knowing that she was found dead in her home yesterday. 😢💔 at the time of my comment they do not know her cause of death.. I'm praying her depression didn't overcome her. 😢💔 she was such a sweet person. Praying for her friends and family.
Depression isn't a choice. If your leg is broken you can't walk on it but when our mind is broken we think it's a matter of choosing when it really isn't. It's so much deeper than that. ❤️🙏
Depression is a demonic spirit. If you open the door to it it will come in!
So are you saying, depression is stronger than Jesus?!
@@blazee3895 It's not, but it can be a journey. I still struggle with depression, but God is walking with me and changing me. I've had to learn that sadness and depression aren't the same. It's okay to be sad, but I'm trying to not dwell on the sadness. We need Jesus, the Word, prayer, but also the Body of Christ, and sometimes counselors and/or medicine. God uses so many things to bring healing to us.
The church is not the place to get help for depression. It can be a support and of course Jesus Christ can hold you and sustain you but it is way too complicated for religious pat answers.
@@abbykittle5058 Those with faith knows that God IS our healer! Those with faith knows that GOD is all we need!
💔💔 This was a cry for help. 💔
And a lot of ppl may have missed it😢
Chilling. 😢
You realize this was 4 years ago?
Having someone who's intentional about seeking after you is so important when you struggle with depression especially when you live alone during this pandemic! Find your person!
Amen! Thanks for watching 💜
This needs balanced with...there ARE times when you are too ill to get out of bed...and in those times, you are loved by your Father in heaven, just as much as when you are well and able to be productive
This is very important to remember. Thank you
And it is okay to not be okay. When you are in a position where you are pouring out consistently, it is easy to get burned out.
I am learning this right now. Thank you
Thank you
Yea what happens, but the goal is for us not to stay in bed. There’s no condemnation when you do, it’s just the goal is for us to overcome. Let’s not focus on “failures” (for lack of a better word), let’s focus on overcoming. We become what we focus on
That hurt. I can't believe they cut off Mandisa like that. This doesn't demonstrate the "bearing of another's burdens" that scripture call us to, but instead Matthew 23:10 and a distressing need to be the expert on another's life coming from those who didn't even let her finish. Truly, just a lack of care. She really has such a beautiful, vibrant spirit.
These women should be ashamed of their behavior in this moment and hopefully by conviction would refrain from this in the future. This is one of the reasons why individuals in the church continue to grapple with challenges like depression. While spiritual warfare is REAL, some problems aren't always spiritual. As human beings we need a loving SPACE to be, exist, express, and heal without judgment or unwarranted "expertise". I say this as a Christian Life Coach in training that this behavior really hurts my soul. I'm praying for you Mandisa that you continue to heal at your pace.
I understand and I am really with you on this but what you said that I disagree a bit on is that e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n in life is spiritual and is always good to deal with it first from that part..
You know these women may have dealt with depression before, I have but I learnt that if you allow yourself to always be by yourself, you'll only sink deeper. Watch Derek Prince of blessed memory tell you how asa Pastor he dealt with for 9 long years of his life and how he overcame.
Thing is if you let it, it will control you and you'll always resort to that. But you have to fight it with GOD'S Spirit in you and allow yourself to be helped.
What depression likes to feed on is isolation.
So yes there are times I don't want to have anything to do with anyone, but I get out. I tell myself I don't want to be that way and so I push myself to do something.
These women mean it well...sometimes, you've just got to ask GOD for strength to do just one thing like just stand on your feet and take a shower.
GOD understand these things, for we don not have a high Priest who does not sympathize with our weaknesses. But we must cooperate with HIM with the minutest of effort and HE will do the chunk of the rest to pull us out of that place!
GOD bless you!
could this be an example of bad counsel? I have to wonder.
As someone who deals with depression, this was rather discouraging. It isn’t as simple as just getting up and doing. There are days that I physically hurt trying to do simple tasks.
It’s seems as if no one is truly listening to her and her needs. Depression is much more serious than these ladies are making out. Praying for you sis xx
Felt the same way. Praying for her as well! Prayer, therapy, fellowship -- and maybe an anti-depressant, if needed. Clinical depression is no joke. Pleading the blood over Mandisa's heart, mind, spirit and life.
Yeah, I do think they should have let her talk more cause I think she was trying to Express something.
They are hearing her. And telling her what she doesn't what to her but it will safe her to get deeper in. I dealt with really deep depression and what they are saying is so true.
@@jadiraboutisma7704 I do agree to a point.....BUT, I find it dangerous in Christian circles particularly when feelings are dismissed. There may have been more to the conversation but I had my feelings suppressed (by me) and dismissed (by others) for 40 years. I found freedom when I sat with someone who acknowledged my feelings, helped me discover why I was in these patterns and partnered with God and me to walk out if it. This perpetual discarding of emotions is a real problem in the church. Feelings are data. They show us something.....just pushing through nearly killed me
I don't like that they interrupted her! That's so sad for them to interrupt her and talk about themselves and dish out advise instead of listening.
They were no help to her. I’m not saying they didn’t try to be encouraging but they just presented her with kind, encouraging words and religious jargon. She was left feeling alone and you can see that so easily. She barely even got all of her feelings out without being interrupted.
1:25 I commend her for being bold to make that comment about having that one person have the key to your house. Thats the start to creating a safety plan.
Really sad to hear she passed away. And so young. She seems like a really good and likeable person. RIP
Don’t let your emotions lead you; let Jesus Christ lead you! Speaking from experience😊
That's a whole word. Thank you
@@zakiahart3919 yes it is a whole world 🙌🏽🙏🏾
Exactly! We walk by faith not by sight (feelings)!
Aah and it's always as simple as this statement, right? Unfortunately it is not, certainly not for many people struggling with a lifetime of traumas and their many consequences...
They clearly need to be more conversation about dépression, I felt for her as well. It can even be hard to get up and take a shower. This is a depressed person's worst nightmare, telling them to just snap out of it, get up and get on... clearly they dont understand real clinical depression. We need more honest and serious conversation in the church, these reaction can sound like judgement.
Like a lot of people said here, I feel like these (well meaning) ladies were giving her a more "to do" list to dig herself out of the pit. If it was about self will many people would just get out of depression easily, but many know depression is a very difficult thing to pull yourself out of. I feel for mandisa and the pain shes going through. God loves and cares for her in that moment and will get her through it even if it takes time and sometimes that's all people need to hear, is that theres nothing wrong with you. You are not a disappointment. Even though you don't feel like a Christian or that God is there, he sees you and this too shall pass like any season in life.
I feel Mandisa. I also have introvert tendencies. I am working through it with the Holy Spirit each day. The pastor hit it though when she said it's about obedience.
Mandisa is gorgeous! I’ve heard her music and seen her before, but never noticed how truly beautiful that woman is. God bless her. Praying for her.
Rest & balance is needed after strenuous work schedule amen💐💖🙏 God bless you💕
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I respect what the pastor is saying and agree with it to some extent, but I wish depression was as simple as "I will or I won't". Let's remember that there's a difference between being overcome by sadness and being depressed. When you're stripped off the will to LIVE and breathe, it's very difficult to will yourself to go to church or do much else for that matter. But yes, if you do muster up that courage to take a shower, try by all means to get to a/church or prayer group.
Exactly. People mean well, but they must educate themselves on clinical depression. It’s not just a funk and you can’t pray it away.
Mosa and Tu, sounds like you know the challenge of clinical depression versus “in a funk” , “exhausted & need a vacation”. I’ve struggled with depression for a LONG time and what has helped me over the long haul is: Continuing education on causes and suggestions to try out, being vigilant to listen to my thoughts for negative loops (eg; Thats it, I give, I can’t do this any more...I can’t... I’m tired, I’m just so tired...). Take my meds, no matter how I ate yesterday, eat healthy today, drink water to be hydrated, if there’s sunlight get outdoors, laugh (eg; RUclips channel “dry bar comedy” has some great clean comedians, audible books,, funny movies), music that is uplifting (Mandisa, Natalie Grant and so many others!) and I have small posters that remind me of how I want to act or encourage me to “get up, dress up and show up”.
Keep fighting the fight ladies, you’re loved and valued by the God that made you ❤️ 😃.
@@kimberlyspillers461 Thank you so much Kimberly. Will definitely note these down. Thank you for taking the time to recommend these methods and for the kinds words. God bless you ❤️
Really appreciate everyone 's transparent / being so real in this conversation
May God strengthen each of you daily.
Sincerely written
@@MH-gn8sc Also, I think it’s important to address that depression does make you feel sad, but the actual emotion behind depression is anger turned inward. So it’s also important to understand: why are you angry with yourself?, was this a situation that You could even control or was it out of your control? And mainly, is there anything You need to forgive yourself for?
I’ve been experiencing depression for over 20 years and I’m just going through this process, but I think looking into this will be helpful for others as well.
I have a suggestion: eat produce whether you eat a salad a day or especially a “green” juice/smoothie! Our “gut health” is truly important! Even when you can’t, get back up and do this when you can! You need to be intentional about this just as we are about brushing our teeth every day! I did/do this for myself and my husband! I’ve been there myself sooo many times and I know “what” I used to eat compared to now and I feel a great difference! I pray and hope this helps someone! May the LORD continue to Bless you Mandisa (btw, I love and appreciate your awesome, fun and high energy music!) and the ladies on this awesome video! 🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏
Please Pray for me as I struggle with the pit of depression and that GOD would miraculously or supernaturally heal me and take me off my meds ❤️
What if God allowed the Doctors to create the meds to heal you this way? Sometimes, we expect God heals only one way, but oftentimes the healing is more progressional. You’re no less than a believer because you’re His Child even with Depression. He made your mind and knows what you need. It takes faith to take meds too.
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Mandisa
@@Webbgurl2000You can’t fix a demonic spirit with a pill.
I hope you’re doing well❤
RIP Beautiful Mandisa 😭🙏🏻😭
This women are changing my life seriously.. thankyou better life
We are so happy to hear how our conversations are helping and encouraging you! God bless you! 💜
@@BetterTogetherTV amennn thankyou so much
I'm in Metastatic Breast Cancer Survivorship and I'm depressed a lot. But I'm thankful for you encouraging words. Thank you.
Praying for you sister! I'm a cancer survivor too ❤️
@@Mrs_Guac_and_Glock thank you. Blessings.
Martha, I don't know what your prognosis is today, but God is with you in your struggle, love, peace, and prayers to you🙏.
@@MsJanna645 I'm doing very good no sign of cancer. Praise the Lord.
@@MsMartha2 Yes! Praise ye the Lord and continued healing and success in every area of your life, to God be the glory, Amen!
Mandissa, I do the same thing. Thank God, He revived me again so that I can now step out of my head and join my congregation again.
Mandisa - I go thru the same thing of not wanting to go to church (for no reason). I don't sing so I don't go on any tour or anything, but I'm single and I'm very much an introvert. I can easily understand why you would want to do that after a tour season. It is so easy for me to slip down in that pit.
Whom the Son set free is free indeed!! We can’t let the enemy make us think depression has or can overcome us. Yes we might have days where we can’t get up & although we lost the battle we haven’t lost the war. We are fighting from the winning team!! Any day that you sit in bed and don’t get up, that’s all in the past. Let’s focus on overcoming depression in the future. I see from the comments people feel condemned because they have laid in bed and it wasn’t that easy for them but there’s no condemnation in Christ! Draw close to God and He will draw near to you. We have so much power & can do all things through Christ who strengthens us. It’s all a journey for us to realize just how much power we have but I pray if that journey hasn’t started for you, it begins today!
This is tough to watch now.❤ We sometimes try to fix a person without listening. I pray that we work to be present with people more and not try to overshadow unintentionally a person's moment of transparency through sharing what we think is best. We've got to do better. 🙏🏾💔
This is why I absolutely cannot live without my better together sisters ... I've struggled with depression for the better part of 37 years and I can relate with this on such a deep level and it moves me to my core knowing that God has used these women to pull me out of my "pit" and closer to Him! This show has changed my life in so many positive ways and the best part is they have taught me how to trust and truly lean on Jesus no matter what I face good or bad in this season! ❤ Thank you Better Together for always being the Christain role models that I need on a daily basis to live the life that Jesus died for each one of us to have! All glory be to the Father God!!!!
Wow, I need a new church and friends. Being single with no kids makes it worse yet can make it worse still if u have a rough family
Mandisa - Oh My Goodness - I get in those modes all the time. I find you beautiful ladies experience the same things we who are not in the spotlight experience. This particular show is so real for me. Thank You!
I was remembering you Mandisa, when a while back my husband lost his job and he was driving back home so discourage when he said the song Overcomer was used by God to encourage him. I thank God for you, I too suffer from depression.
Rest in peace Mandisa 😢🕊️
Healing is real. I recommend this book available on Amazon, "Lessons From a Place of Pain: An Account of God's Healing Power and Restoration after a Great Loss"
I'd love to get the book
"Your obedience will write something over your life". 🙏🏽
Still looking across the street for you Mandi telling myself it’s not true she will come out 💔💔💔💔💔
I can’t believe I just found out about this channel. Wow, really needed this!
Worship is differently a key that unlocks stuff your either trying not to let bother you, you think you're over or that you're trying to be strong about but in a way unlocks it like when dealing with difficult people or a situation
You're praise is your break through, even at home. Sometimes GOD wants us to be alone and praise and thank him, even when you don't feel like it. GOD wants us to have relationship with him, you don't have to be at church to get that, it's actually all about your personal relationship with GOD so if that means you can't get up to go to church that's fine church is for you can be surrounded around people that love Christ and can counsel you. But the best counsel is from The Holy Spirit yes sometimes he use people, but that can be from a sermon online. Most of all just listen to what he wants you to do and not what others think you should do, because only GOD knows how to lead you the correct way based off where you are mentally today. Just praise him at home even when it hurt, because GOD is showing you he is your answer and to come closer to him in your personal relationship with him. Worship GOD even with tears coming down your face, and even when it hurt. You're break through is your worship/praise GOD will lift you out of that dark pit. That's what GOD told me to do and I was not into really worshipping with my hands up and stuff. And he healed me and made me 10x better then what even ever was and our relationship is so amazing he gives me all my answers for any problems in my life he has been my counselor and he will put the right people in your life at the right Moment to tell you exactly what you need to hear. Seek GOD diligently first and the rest will follow. The Holy Spirit will lead you.
I'm glad that she was willing to share this openly. Because this will be a blessing to many and to her as well.
Mandisa, your genuine persona and courage to be genuine and willingness & humility to change is inspiring!
In this interview I feel like she wasn’t given the opportunity to fully share. She was cut off a few times, it obvious that she was in pain and it might have been therapeutic for her to be allowed to be transparent. But, now she’s with Jesus her healer. Praise God🙌🏼❤️🕊
I think to just hear 'just be obedient' 'just trust Him' feels so much more lonely and like He's not being a refuge at all when you're going to Him because you're crying out BECAUSE you're being persecuted, or bullied and lonely, etc. I get that hurt feelings don't want to go along with holy instruction, but it feels like it doesn't speak to love... joining in union with other women sharing their expeirences does, but saying 'just do it' makes the person looking to God feel more lost, to me.
I sooo needed this. I am the same
This advice is pertinent and Godly guidance. Thank you for this channel.
I love you Mandisa! Thank you for being brave and sharing this ❤️
Rest in eternal peace Mandisa🙏
Praise God so awesome to see Jamie Grace. All of these ladies with musical gifts. Thank you. 😊
Why didn’t I see this before now? This is what I needed and let’s me know I’m not alone.
So real!!! Thank you Mandisa and pastor!
I wish I had friends , I stuggle with Depression & post dromtic stress disortor , I was in a murder invesagation when I was 8 . I just sit in my room everyday , I do lision to k- Love & it dose help but can't shake feeling homeless everyday . I don't have anyone who understands what I'm going through, plus with covid-19 , we are in Hardship. I still love God with all my heart ! But it would just be nice to have someone to talk to. & I don't . Most of the time I just cry & talk to God .
We don't know what led to the cardiac arrest. Thank you Jesus for this beautiful woman who uplifted so many.
Official autopsy report?
They never said that she had a cardiac arrest.
@@kibabalefobaki9725 yes it's on the 911 call
I am so proud of Mandisa.
Wow! I needed to hear this. I’m gonna get up even when I don’t want to . Amen!
Beautiful. God blessings in JESUS Name. Praise God. Hallelujah.
Some times I fill like that too when I had a stressful week when Sunday rolls around I just want to stay home think something or someone be saying don't give the devil the glory the next thing you know I'm in ⛪ giving God the glory and the theme for that day seems like it was meant for me that did happen to me pastor giving the sermon but it hit home after service I asked the pastor was he talking to me He was talking to everyone but it home to me thanks you guy's for this discussion thanks 💘 you all
Wow, you’ve read my mail. Thank you for your transparency❤️❤️❤️
Thank you ladies for this conversation 🙌
Great advice from your Pastor
I didn't like how Natalie interrupted Mandisa. And she wasn't allowed to fully share her experience because everybody else just continued chipping in.
I also feel we are belittled more by other Christians when we share about our depression journey😢💔
It's not I that lives but Christ that loves within me- amazing
I love her music👌💕
I haven't seen but one of the other shows, so I spoke out of line, that probably the other women have or are still dealing with mental health struggles. I apologize for that. I did still feel like the advice in this segment wasn't balanced. I just wish for Mandisa and others watching that it was. Love to all
I didn’t agree with it either. Clinical depression can weigh you down and you don’t always need to make yourself be around people. There are other uplifting things you can give yourself.
Greater is he that is in me than he that is in the world. I can do all things through Christ who strenghtens me. I am more than a conquer through Christ Jesus. If you are a child of God, you must know the Word of God. I went through something that I thought I was going to loose my mind, but I know scripture I read them I quoted them I made a pamphlet with healing scriptures, victory scriptures, the names of Go, etc.. I posted them in my office at work and in my heart. This is an attack of the enemy and we must know how to fight him. The Lord was teaching me how to war and with him I have the victory. I am almost 3 years past that very difficult time in my life, the devil did not want me to get out of bed on a daily basis for 3 or 4 years, but I did and I never agreed with the lies he was telling me. Mandisa has to capture every negative thought with the truth the Word of God. God is able and willing, it was a war but I am on no medication to the glory of God and not just surviving but thriving. 😁😁😁
I thought I’m the only one that goes through that, Mandisa’s pastor, thank you for your word to help us 🙏
You are not alone! We are standing with you. We are so happy to hear this conversation helped encourage you. God bless you 💜
@@BetterTogetherTV I hope that you take note of all the people who have commented and were disturbed by how this conversation went. Clinical depression is totally different to the 'sadness' that Mandisa's pastor spoke of and Mandisa was cut off and not listened too. This has happened to me in churches and this needs to be addressed. You would do well to get Mandisa back on and address this. Even King David had severe depression and it is not a matter of 'I will or I won't' like Mandisa's pastor said. Severe clinical depression is a very serious illness and cannot just be dismissed. Unless someone has experienced this, they have no idea and the women should have been more understanding/not cut her off)
I’m a Christian recording artist. I get this!
The writer of the hymn "What a friend we have in Jesus" suffered with severe depression to the point that his death was a suspected suicide. People can have amazing gifts but still suffer excruciating difficulties with their mental health. Rick Warren, the author of international bestseller "the Purpose Driven Life", his son despite having personal faith in Christ committed suicide at a young age, and his family had long expected it. It's better to gather people with direct experience either in the treatment or experience of an issue such as depression who are also people of faith, than kinda casually, even lovingly 'wine mom' it out in this way. I also think Mandisa whilst sharing, it's better to explain the full regimen being used to manage the condition i.e. meds, therapy etc or if she isn't doing that, why not. Because there's a lot of gaps in what should be quite a disciplined discussion.
Great advice, its a choice ! Ive had to fight my way out of feeling hopelessness,by deciding to get up ,ignore how I feel and do , its absolutely powerful God gave us a beautiful gift its the gift of choice 💕the enemy of our souls wants us to be led by feelings which leads to hopelessness and death,but Jesus came to give us abundant Life , we get to chose who and what we listen to 🥰
I rebuke depression, lack and negative thoughts in the Name of Jesus....Amen🕊
I can identify with her being depressed since being violated as a child.
I was molested at age 6, then kidnapped for sx traffic king for 14 months as a teenager, and at age 28 an ex-boyfriend became a stalker, and then found me after 8 weeks. After he attacked me and was about to leave, he said, "Have you gained 2 or 3 pounds, because you look hideous!"
I went from 120 to 123, and I felt hideous, so I gave Satan a foothold that day! I quit body building, and every time I felt fearful when I guy would look at me or make a comment, I would Bing Eat as much food as possible. After gaining about 100 pounds, I wanted to take my life back, but every diet was a failure, so I kept gaining the weight back and more. I always felt ashamed of my body, so now, I'm almost 57, and I've never been married.
I was suicidal from at age 6-50 and lived as a hypocrite, but I thought I was saved, because I went to church 2x week and I volunteering in ministry 3x week and attended 2 Bible studies. Id have moments of victory, only to come crashing down within a few week, all in silence with no one to truly confide in. So after counless doctors, medication, counseling, 12 steps groups, accountability partners didn't work, I almost drove head on with an 18 wheeler. I knew I was a foolish virgin heading for hell. I made a list of 167 sins that I was guilty of! So clearly I did not ❤ God with ALL of my Heart. I loved my sin.
I had never once read my Bible in 50 years; but I did hundreds of Bible studying, but that only allowed me to cherry pick verses and read them out of context!
I found out that it only takes DAY to Listen to the NT Bible, so THE TRUTH set me free from the watered down gospel. I always wondered why Pastors/Wolves could never explain why Jesus told the auldulterous woman to go and sin NO more..Not less! Well, I know that it is Possible, once you ❤ God with ALL of your heart, mind, soul, and strength, you obey everything He says! Paul Commanded us to take EVERY Thought Captive and Make It Obedient to Christ. So it only takes 10 seconds to stop and ask myself: "Will this thought, word, deed glorify God or Satan?" It's Always obvious! It's been amazing to wake up everyday with no regrets. The WORD has been so life transforming, that I've read my Bible cover to cover every single month, for 6 years straight. ALL scripture is God breathed, so why do most Pastors/Wolves avoid the OT=80% Once I read it and dug deep into it, the NT suddenly looks like a puzzle that's missing 1/2 it's pieces!
I think that's why Jesus said Many will say to Me, Lord, Lord, didn't I ___, ___, and ___!
For 6.5 years ago, I never had another suicidal thought, or struggled with lust, lying, anger, guilt, shame, fear, insecurity, depression, doubts, unforgiveness, complaining, etc 🎉
I just recently looked through my list of 167 former sins, and I am only struggle with 2 right now: Loneliness and Uncertainty. I've move to 5 states in the last 2 years, bec I can't find a church that's not filled with lukewarm believers. I have not had fellowship for 498 days..., so I don't know which state to move to. I don't regret my time in isolation, bec it's allowed me to grow deeper in my faith with No one to distract me. I wish everyone knew THE TRUTH. 😢
That was deep, God bless you and thank you for sharing your story, sending you lots of love 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Beautiful black women. 😢
Galatians 2:20 yes amen
I don’t think having moments where you don’t feel like preaching is the same as suffering from depression….. depression can feel paralysing and someone can continue to suffer from this continuously if there is no medical, therapeutic AND godly intervention, it’s not like a feeling of laziness. But idk that’s just my opinion.
I would have told her when she feels that way go ahead and stay home and rest and worship her savior there where she was at because WE ARE THE CHURCH. So since she was exhausted and had just came back from ministering the good Lord would see that her body needs rest and he did say he came for us to live life abundantly and that includes rest because he showed us that we do need to rest when he himself did it as an example on the 7th day🥰
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Something was haunting her. Music dark industry who knows. A lesson for us who are living. God is always the one to take care of us until the end
Sadness and depression are NOT the same. I need the entire body of believers to really understand how they can help their brothers and sisters in Christ
Depression is a demonic spirit.
Why are they cutting her off...? She can’t even complete a full statement
It seems like they’re really anxious to help
My thoughts exactly🙄
It’s a human habit to want to help .. instead of listening .
That's to show you how eager they are about helping her
I’ve been there
That real
Idk...depression for me isn't a will or won't. It's literally, an "I dont care" feeling that takes hold of you.
Hey! Are these videos full length? Do we have full episodes or something like that? They are so inspirational
Yes! You can watch this full conversation and more here: bit.ly/2NjTAe2 💜
@@BetterTogetherTV thanks for your timely reply
When does this episode show on the TBN app
This episode aired on 9/9/19. But you can watch the episode online here: watch.tbn.tv/better-together/season:1/videos/better-together-51
Will and want situation
Mandisa trusted Jesus with her depression. She helped others with their struggling depression too. God used her in her singing to bless a lot of people. Mandisa was a very beautiful soul inside and out. She will be greatly missed. See you soon sweet sister.
Jesus is all we need to get through this life. Trust Jesus he will bring you through everything in your life.
depression is pent up anger fear bitterness and resentment the way to overcome these is casting your burdens to Jesus forgive the people who wronged you and willfully let go of the pain
I understand the biblical stand point they are preaching to her however depression is wayyyyyy deeper than this. She needs therapy in addition to spiritual guidance. Its a process and there will be highs and lows. Trust me...been there...and still have my moments.
Mandisa and Jamie Grace were on this show the same time!! I need to watch the full show
Hi Linda, Yes! They were together in episodes 51-55. You can begin watching here: watch.tbn.tv/better-together/season:1/videos/better-together-51 💜
Any help on how to deal with someone in your family that is depressed? It's so hard sometimes.
This ALL that make us ALL humans. But God.
RIP
Depression is like seating on a nail. People give you pills, advise, prayers, etc... but no one wants to see the nail and help you to move.
This was hard to watch...Mandisa was not being heard and was not allowed to share the truth of her experience in its fullness. Her pastor nor the host could tolerate hearing a Black woman's legitimate mental health struggle and unfortunately that's what happens many times with Black women. We are not "allowed" to speak about our suffering. We are only allowed to smile, entertain, minister, and be "fine" because we are "strong." Anything else is uncomfortable for "others" so they must be stopped. Hence, the pastor interrupting Mandisa in the middle of her sharing. In addition, the spiritualization of the remedy for Mandisa and Jamie's mental health disorders was quite jarring. The producers needed to have had a mental health professional to brief both the host and the panelists on the sensitivity of this issue for the Christian community so that they would not demonstrate the very thing women become exasperated about when trying to convey the depth of their struggle with other Christians. The women on this show needed to "fix it." This show was disappointing on several levels. I'd be interested to know how Jamie and Mandisa truly felt after the show.
And now she's no longer here 🙏🙏🙏🙏 unfortunately hard to tell what's someone's going through at the time
I wholeheartedly agree, but it's not about color, it's about any woman, any race struggling. Women in general are shut down. :-( I realate alot with Mandisa and miss her dearly. Reading her book "Out of thr Dark", it's amazing!
What does black have to do with.....so silly SMH
OOOH im wondering if that pastor understand mental health.
Hi ladies
Thursday, September 24th,
2🛎2🙆.
Part 1:
[Title: Ordering your life how you like]:
[Buy Polar:]
🌬: [🔥🌞] summer
[ 🌨 ] winter
(🍁🍀🌿 🌵) fall
[💐🌻🌺🌼] spring
Part 2:
[Title:
Deep Pressure or Deep Pression]
{Dep or
di/(which means in Creole 'to say')
Depression
Or
Deep pressed]
Part 3: have you ever tried to write by the roadside?
70 years to the strong ones
120 years old...
If one can live that long the late Ravi Zacharias would have had to conclude
They probably never worked or fasted one day in their lives
Thanks,
Luvienne Nonord