How Do Greece & Turkey Compare?
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
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00:00 Intro
00:22 Location
01:07 Territory Size
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03:10 Population Size / Demographics
04:21 Flags
04:36 Religion
05:41 Rivalry Between Them
06:19 Army Comparison
07:42 GDP & GDP per Capita
08:15 Gini Index / Wealth Distribution
09:31 Minimum Wage, Currency & Inflation
10:35 Human Development Index
11:24 Language & Common Heritage
12:04 Summary
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Turkey and Iran
Norway and Haiti
Cambodia and Vietnam
Egypt and Sudan?
Turkey and Iran
You’ve awaken the Turkish and Greek Nationalists. Brace yourself for cringe takes on how great their empires used to be hundreds of years ago.
all i see is turks on the comments :P
Im greek mate and i only coment to those turks bcs they spread some missleading information. Im proud of my history i know for fact that we spread our culture to the latins and our ancestors played a major role to the history and the europe that we know but our history and legacy its the only thing that makes me "proud" to be greek. Otherwise in 2022 we are not the guys that i know from the past. We are one of the worst people that u can come across and thats not a fact its my opinion
ALBANIA NUMBER ONE 🇦🇱 🇦🇱 🇦🇱
Both belong to albania 🇦🇱
@@warmonkey3216 No. It is not.
One adjustment. You note the religious symbolism on both flags. However, the crescent on the Turkish flag is not a reference to Islam, but a reference to the Ottomans. And the Ottoman use of the crescent pre-dates its use as a religious symbol. The use of the crescent as a religious symbol for Islam is derived from its use by the Ottomans.
I didn't know this! Thanks.
@@General.Knowledge I think that's bullshit, the Ottomans were Islamic from their inception. Even if it wasn't an Islamic reference in the 1400s, it definitely is now. In the mind of every Turk that references Islam, so therefore does.
@@joshuataylor3550 it is and it isn’t. The crescent derives from old Turkic tradition, which is where the ottomans got it from.
The Crescent might have an ancient Turkish root, but also the Byzantines used it. As the Ottomans conquered the Byzantine Empire, they also incorporated the imperial standards and images.
@@joshuataylor3550 No it doesn’t. Turkish flag is just Turkish flag. Flag of our country. Atheists wave it. Muslims wave it.
I'm Greek. of course we have problems with our 2 countries when it comes to politics, Every Turk I have met has a similar warm welcoming attitude that I see from fellow Greeks. Turks are like our cousins who just have a different religion. I love Turks they are good people.
Thanks bro❤️
♥️♥️♥️
Exactly! I hate this turks vs greeks ideology so much...i had cool greek friends we have so much in common
Your " friends" voted for "Mavi vatan" " Blue homeland" and " Great turkey" as Erdogan says.......
@@elenilepouri7253 I have American friends that voted for bill Clinton. I think the bombing of Serbia by Clinton and nato thereafter is wrong but that does not mean the people are to blame. Corrupt politicians are in every country.
Yes I agree Erdogan is a total scumbag and his ideas are to but watch after Erdogan the next leader will be the same no matter what party they come from.
Turkish government is horrible but the Turkish people I see as friends. As long as they don't hate me for nationalistic reasons.
Think about it. The next American president nothing changes. America still supports Israel and the war crimes they commit in Palestine, they still support the Saudis who were responsible for 9/11. Leaders hardly change courses for countries anymore.
Also most people who vote anymore don't even have any idea about what they are voting for. Yes they should be smarter but we'll they are not.
Respect Greece from Turkey , peace guys we both having economic crisis everyday . We had world's one of the best empires ever and now look where are we,we must get strong and get well each other.
simp misin birader
Greece is a peaceful country of EU
If anyone makes senarios or comparisons we dont care
We only want peace and protect our lands- from ancient yrs
@@elenilepouri7253 peaceful??? Hahahaha dude don't make me laugh, ur government kill refugees who tries to come Greece by a boat, they sink it on purpose. Even more is your government threaten Turkish sea border and land border, by arming the greek islands in Aegean Sea and they violate the airspace.
Türkiye**
@@FishLeFish you're right
Another interesting fact is that Greece in the last 20 years had 7 different prime ministers and Turkey had the same President.
Love from to Greece to Turkish people!
I hope we will get rid of him this time :) its been rough couple years
@@EmrhnErdm do it. He's a huge problem because of his revisionism. But better not bring another dictator like the far right leader - Bahceli. He would be even worse.
20 yıldır aynı parti iktidarda aynı kişi değil. Erdoğan 2014'den beri ülkenin başkanı.
Actually turkey had 3 different presidents in the last 20 year. Erdoğan was a prime minister back then.
in turkey they change Sultan when he dies..
I have no affiliation with either country, but came to love and respect both cultures through studies and research. I hope both manage to overcome their hardships and thrive peacefully in the future. Greetings from Brazil. 🇧🇷🤝🇬🇷🤝🇹🇷
Well, I can't say that any of the two countries are thriving exactly but thank you 😅
@@tasosGRvocals that's why I said "In the future", I know things are not going that well for anyone rn, Brazil included lol
@@hugoleonardoamaral586 Ooh, I didn't see that, sorry xD
They will never reconcile. It's just not going to happen. Too many clashing ideals.
@@strife2746 bro most Greeks have no problems with Turks and vice versa, it's only the government's and a few ultra-nationalists
You cannot pay to directly skip mandatory military service in turkey, but if you pay a certain amount of money, your mandatory service duration changes from 6 months to one month only
That's practically skipping
There are some other requirements for your limited-time service, so it’s not like every person who pays skips military
if you have another citizenship as well, you can skip it completely
I did not know that, do you have double citizenship and live in turkey
@@manolisbach2380 only college graduates can lower the mandatory service lenght by paying.
Do more country compare videos like these! The possibilities are limitless! Keep up the great content!
Ah, yes.
We'll finally see how Belize compares to Luxembourg!
And also trigger people relationships
Hmm maybe France and Germany?
Me, a Turk who has just finished my weekly Greek lesson to stumble upon this video on RUclips:
Γειά σου! Μαθαίνεις ελληνικά; 😃
@@dimitrioskazaglias Ναι, σωστά.
@@mrfish5961 Neden Yunanca öğrenme gereği duydun ?
@@snowball5192 Bu nasıl bi soru? Öğrenemezmi???
@@ordekabi5791 Tabikide öğrenebilir. Sadece neden gerek duyduğunu sordum. Mesela yabancı biri eğer Türkiyede yaşamıcaksa neden türkçe öğrenme gereği var diye sorarım.
I would love to see more videos like this, for other countries that are rivals or that are similar in some ways, maybe Portugal and Spain, north and South Korea etc
5:23 %100 true, I'm trying to tell everyone this matter, but your explanation is so simple and comprehensible. Great search, great job, thank you!
I am turkish and My girl friend is a greek. I never met with a greek before her. I didnt know that greeks and turks are so similar before. We are like 2 brothers but raised separately. I love greek people. Because i cant see any difference:) she will come to Turkiye. Her grandparents have some theories about Turkiye like turkish people steal her or something:))) but we both know there is no difference:)) and i am so exited to visit greece:)
Και τι με αυτό αλλάζει η στάση κάθε χώρας.
@@katerinatsoliakou235 sorry?
@@hacozdemirtas4330 The civilized people all over the democratic World understand that "human rights" in Turkey is the most short joke! So dear foreign readers, when Mr. Erdogan spread the turkish propaganda lies that Greek Coast Guard drown (just the opposite happens. Greeks save unlucky people) the poor immigrants THEN any intelligent citizen have to wonder: when official policy of Turkey is that the Turkish Police and the Turkish Coast Gurd men to gather the poor immigrants men, women and their children from the cities and towns of Turkey, transferring them under custody to Turkish Coasts opposite greek islands and PUSHING THE UNLUCKY IMMIGRANTS and bitting them with long sticks (Greece has got satellite's images proof of those brutalities) and getting them willy-nilly into small risky boats during seastorm (!) weather in the rough waves of Aegean Sea just for servicing Turkey's VICIOUS PLANS OF HYBRID WAR AGAINST GREECE, then you can understand the Turk President's INHUMANITY and TOP HYPOCRISY showing in UN a photograph of a drown child (!) A VICTIM OF HIS POLICY AND HIS SUBORDINATES ACTIONS!
So it is said wisely:
All Countries have History!
Turkey has only Criminal Record!...
Which border are you from? There are difference when you go to south and east borders.
@@whitepouch0904 i live in middle of anatolia
Love the content good job!
Thanks!
Very good video with much attention to detail. Love from Greece 🇬🇷
I agree. Love from Turkey to Greece
@@bblunder im greek and i love/respect turk people :)
@@someonethatlikesyou7713 Με τα νησιά η χωρίς;;;;
@@katerinatsoliakou235 me ta nisia
full support GREECE from turkey 😂😂
Correction for 10:12
One Turkish lira currently equals about 5.5 cents, not half a cent. For that to happen, one US dollar would have to equal about 200 Turkish liras, while it currently equals about 18 liras.
As always western people being bias, no wonder
Yuru be Rumeysa
sg rümeysa
@@codysteevis6544 sus o.c
Yeah numbers in this video is generally not correct, OP must be bad at maths.
Congrats, very interesting video.
Hello from a Greek. Greeks and Turks have a lot in common, we should be brothers and live a peaceful life
Amen bro we are same people. You are my bro ım. Your bro but we are always fight because we are very naughty children's
Since the two peoples were separated from each other by violence and political reasons, they have declined culturally and economically. If we are two countries that do not have problems like Norway and Sweden in the Aegean Sea, if we spend the money we would spend on weapons and hostility for our people, we would get richer, build beautiful cities and infrastructure. Politicians who fuel the past and raise people who are hostile to each other are the real enemies of humanity and the two countries.
@@hamzatarhan6728 mal herif 400 sene yönettik yunanı yaramaz çocuk değil dede torun diyecektin şu şirin görünme uğruna tarihimize ihanet etmeyin
Προφανώς οι γνώσεις σου περί ιστορίας, γεωστρατηγικής, Άμυνας κλπ είναι μηδενικές. Τέτοιους "ειρηνιστές" σαν και σένα ψάχνει η τουρκική προπαγάνδα!...Σύνελθε. Δεν μιλάμε εδώ περί μεμονωμένων Τούρκων, παρά για το πόσο αντιλαμβάνεσαι αν η Τουρκική μιλιταριστική ισλαμοφασιστική πολιτική για συρρίκνωση του Ελληνισμού και των δικαίων του για ΑΟΖ, φυσικό αέριο, αλιεία, παραβιάσεις εναέριου και θαλάσσιων συνόρων, δολοφονία του πιλότου μας Κώστα Ηλιάκη, Δολοφονίες Τάσου Ισαάκ και Σολομώντα Σολωμού στο δεύτερο κράτος του Ελληνισμού στην Κύπρο, η κατοχή απο το 1974 τμήματος της Κύπρου, το μπουλινγκ της Τουρκίας και ο καθημερινός Υβριδικός πόλεμος εναντίον μας κλπ σε αγγίζουν ή θεωρείς μέσα στην παιδική αφέλεια σου ότι αυτά τα κάνουν οι 2 κακές κυβερνήσεις εκατέρωθεν ενώ αν ηταν αλλη τουρκικη κυβέρνηση (οι κεμαλιστες θα είναι χειρότεροι από τους ισλαμοφασιστες του Ερντογαν) δεν θα συνέχιζε το μακροχρόνιο σχέδιο της Τουρκίας για μηδενισμό της Ελλαδος;;; Αν φταίει η σημερινή κυβέρνηση τοτε πιστεύεις οτι μια άλλη σοσιαλιστική κλπ κυβέρνηση θα τα "έβρισκε" με την Τουρκία; Καταλαβαίνεις ότι αυτό σημαίνει συνομιλίες με τους Τούρκους για να δώσεις με την θέληση σου το μισό σπίτι σου; Έχεις δει ώ ΗΛΙΘΙΕ ΧΑΖΟΧΑΡΟΥΜΕΝΕ τον τουρκικό Χάρτη της "Γαλάζιας Πατρίδας" που μοιράζει αυθαίρετα το Αιγαίο στην μέση; Εσύ που έχεις σπίτι στην Σάμο μου λες (αν προδοτικά κάποια ελληνική κυβέρνηση τα "βρει" με το Τουρκικό θηρίο) γιατί πρέπει να σε γενοκτονήσουν, γιατι πρέπει να βιάσουν την μάνα και την γυναίκα και την αδελφή σου και να χάσεις αν επιζήσεις την περιουσία σου και να γίνεις προσφυγας;;; Η γενοκτονία των Ελλήνων του Πόντου και της Μικράς Ασίας σου λέει τίποτα στο ξερό κεφάλι σου; Η γενοκτονία των αδελφών Αρμενίων και των Ασσυρίων και η συνεχιζόμενη γενοκτονία των Κούρδων σε αγγίζει στον ανθρωπισμό σου;;;
Πάψε να μπερδεύεις στο φτωχό μυαλουδάκι σου το τυχαίο ανθρώπινο στοιχείο με την Τουρκία μια χώρα που στηρίζεται αιώνες τώρα στις σφαγές, στις αρπαγές και τα εγκλήματα κατά της Ανθρωπότητας!. Ούτε να μπερδεύεις τον Πατριωτισμό και την γνώση της Ιστορίας και Γεωστρατηγικής με τον στείρο εθνικισμό.
Διάβασε τα παρακάτω για να δεις μια πτυχή της τουρκικής βαρβαρότητας!
The civilized people all over the democratic World understand that "human rights" in Turkey is the most short joke! So dear foreign readers, when Mr. Erdogan spread the turkish propaganda lies that Greek Coast Guard drown (just the opposite happens. Greeks save unlucky people) the poor immigrants THEN any intelligent citizen have to wonder: when official policy of Turkey is that the Turkish Police and the Turkish Coast Gurd men to gather the poor immigrants men, women and their children from the cities and towns of Turkey, transferring them under custody to Turkish Coasts opposite greek islands and PUSHING THE UNLUCKY IMMIGRANTS and bitting them with long sticks (Greece has got satellite's images proof of those brutalities) and getting them willy-nilly into small risky boats during seastorm (!) weather in the rough waves of Aegean Sea just for servicing Turkey's VICIOUS PLANS OF HYBRID WAR AGAINST GREECE, then you can understand the Turk President's INHUMANITY and TOP HYPOCRISY showing in UN a photograph of a drown child (!) A VICTIM OF HIS POLICY AND HIS SUBORDINATES ACTIONS!
So it is said wisely:
All Countries have History!
Turkey has only Criminal Record!..
PS. There is Always the probability the "ALPHA&OMEGA" comments to be from another turkish troll pretending beeing Greek...
Ew.
I love both countries! Greece is one of our best friends and their mountains, islands, beaches and people are absolutley *amazing* .
🇷🇴❤🇬🇷
(Btw we have a neo-greek course and I'm participating in it!)
I also love Türkiye, it's a great place to visit as a tourist(especially in Antalya) there are many foods and deserts, many activities,etc.
🇷🇴🤝🇹🇷
What is a neo greek course ?
Great interesting video, love history.
Bro if a war comes up just between greece and turkey im sure as a greek that we are going to lose. But 1v1 will never happen at least as long as our generarion lives. Also as a christian in thrace i live among many muslims and we coexist peacefully. Also many turks are visiting ur country for holidays and the opposite. We are having many in things in common and i dont see any reason for our people to hate each other bcs of some islands and airspace. We share a bloody history but that belongs to the past! Anyone who reads this please change ur mindset! Both of our countries have much more important problems internal. Dont let our govermenta distact us from our real problems
As a Turk my opinion is also that Greece might lose, but it would be very costly to us because
1. Our shitty economy and hyperinflation (I'm not saying that the Greek economy is very good and stuff, but it definetely will have less trouble handiling a war)
2. Greece has better European and American technology in Air Force since Turkey still uses barely modernised F-16s
3. If we count other countries in this conflict too, Europe and USA is most likely to support Greece
FUCK GOVERNMENTS. No one wants a war
Nice with a sensible comment among all jingoistic chest-pumping.
Ραφαήλ καλά τα λες, ειρήνη πάση. Αλλα δεν είναι πάντα η ωμή στρατιωτική δύναμη που καθορίζει πολέμους.
Both Turks and greeks are better off if they ally with each other and fix their countries. Hopefully they will
@@theunbeatable6598 "Both Turks and greeks are better off if they ally with each" To hell with this. This is heresy.
Hope we both get rid of economic problems. :)
I see a lot of videos about greece and Turkey and people are starting to become friends and wishing for peace and that makes me happy
love from Cyprus 🇨🇾 ❤️ 🇬🇷🇹🇷
Είστε κάπου αλλού.
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I hope people can solve problems, since we are not cows or sheeps, we are people.. I do not care races anymore... also all humanity comes from common ancestors..
Cyprus belong to Turkiye
Not you tho
i love this channel, really. love to greece from turkey
Thank you for watching!
Interesting name coming from turkey
@@content1006 im trolling turks who think hungarians are turkic
@@Qwerka same!
@@Qwerka rare hungary W (love from Czechia)
Turkey: “we are a secular state”
Also Turkey: “your a Muslim, and your a Muslim, everyone’s a Muslim”
*you're
Turkey is also a country where people who want to leave Islam have a hard time
@@ash.bl.9289 like how?
@@berkekadircelik6282 By that I mean that such people are not recognized by the Turkish state and are further counted among the Muslims
@Kermit21 it doesn't have to be a spelling bee in order for me to correct basic elementary school level grammar.
I believe every sane person would prefer not to go into a war in each country. The politicians unfortunately use this rivalry as a populist tool to gain more votes. I believe it would benefit for both country to collaborate rather than to compete. A confederation was also proposed by some people, which is an interesting idea in my opinion.
Love to all Greek and Turkish people from İzmir!
Η αγάπη με τα νησιά η χωρίς...
It's more about global powers. I don't think Greece or Turkey want any hospitility. Right now Greek side is owned by US so they will follow that politic for a while. Let's see. It's about what global powers want, not Turkey or Greece.
@@musicxxa6678 and turkey is controlled by neo ottomans....
The one of the only pair of nations who used to fully rule each other's territory.
Interesting perspective!
Mongolia and China would like to have a word
And the borders were set after a very bloody war between them.
Greeks never ruled the Altay region.
@@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt read the statement again!
Thanks for making this vid
very good video, thoroughly researched and well delivered. also thank you for unbiased and objective demeanor.
most of the modern day conflicts between governments and because of some shitty politics not between people, well except right wing extremist, i guess. both sides has shit talks and memes about each other but generally just for fun. i visit several times greek islands (before our economy goes shit) and mostly they become more hospitable when they learned that i am turkish.
Great video can we get one on Algeria and Morocco or Libya too?
Love to all my fellow Turks and neighbouring Greeks
I love your videos but I feel that I have to state something important.
1.Acheans(Greek) vs Trojans(Phrygians or Greeks) 12th century bc
2. Classical Greeks and Macedonias vs Persians 5th and 4th centuries bc
3. Byzantines (mostly Greek and hellenized Asia Minor peoples) vs Parthians (Persians) and Arab Muslims 6th 7th and 8th century ad
4. Byzantines (again) vs TURKIC peoples 11th century to 1453 ad
(That is when Turkic language along with its speakers came to Asia Minor even though many Turks of today are desendants of various Asia Minor peoples)
5.Greeks in Ottoman rule vs rulling Turkic Ottoman state
6. Modern Greeks vs Modern Turks
The rivarly was not Greece vs Asia Minor. It was between Greece and a different each time eastern empire mostly from Asia like Persia and Arabia. As for Troy (if it even existed) it is just a city and probably a Greek city.
troy exists dude. I've been there, it's very interesting. You're more than 1 century late to the debate of whether it exists.
@@11th_defender51 you are right,Troy that Schleeman found in yhe 19th century existed as a city but "Troy", as the homeric Troy which was burned by the Greeks might be only a story. The events might be completely imagimative. They might be..
@@quantumfoam539 I believe the story about the horse is false, but there is proof of their being a war in troy around the time.
@@quantumfoam539 troy definitely exists. If there's a statue of achiles and there's a reference in Alexander the greats travels that he went to troy and prayss achiles stature this means that achiles was real and the war happened and everything. Its probably like Thessaloniki where the old cities are buried and above them they build new ones. There could be like another 3-4 cities below the one schleeman found
Troy did exists, and they are Lydians with greek influences
What's up. Love your vids❤
Let's hope that the two countries won't fight again because it will be a carnage since both states have enormous fire power.
Hopefully because war is never a solution
@@kenan6977 sometimes it is though
Not really, there will be unnecessary losses but Turkey in general is far superior for an actual war. But a victory comes at a price, both Turks and greeks need to ally with each other and boost their country's status at this point. They're better off working with each other rather than against each other
@@theunbeatable6598 Turkey wouldn’t win a war because the usa and the eu would back the greeks
@@kenan6977 Nope, history tells they'd slap Greece and so does basic research. Backing or not, Turkey would likely win in a dominant fashion
If you ask people on both countries what they think about each other you will never hear a single bad word
Dear brother, you are right. We Turks love and value our Greek neighbors. There have always been those who spread political hatred, but the two peoples are brothers. When Greece became the European champion in football in 2004, I personally remember feeling happy as if Turkey had won the championship, watching that match with our friends and hugging each other. With the hope that we have a common future on brotherhood and friendship
wise choice of words regarding the status of greece under alexanders empire General😉, but i feel compelled to say (not due to ethnic pride but because i am sure some people will interpret your words i believe wrong,) alexanders empire was mostly helenistic in culture and he himself can be argued that was a greek certainly not a slav (looking at you N.Makedonia😅)
Anyways as you might have noticed i am a greek and must say that your video is a good representation of what is happening in greece, also loved the good vibes in the comments,
Happines and peace to all nations
Great video
8:36 I didn't know there is such a site to measure that! Cool!
The minimum wage in Turkey is 5500 turkish liras, which comes up to about 305 euros, not 440
Και...
@@katerinatsoliakou235 ☦️🇬🇷 Κατερίνα καλύτερα μιας ώρας ελεύθερης ζωή ππαρα 40 χρόνια σκλαβιά και φυλακή
2019...
you are talking about net salary. the gross salary, probably he is talking about.
@@orar6435 im talking about monthly
Love our Greece brothers from Romania
O halde Yunanistan, hırsızlar tarafından seviliyor.
@@suleymankaya3959 ce fa?
We love Romania too bro!
Ive travelled in Bucharest and the monasteries of Bukovina as a child ;)
@@kd1405 so niceee :) You can also visit Maramureș, it's something special, like Bukovina
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i just came here for the comment section, I've been avoiding this video but when i thought about it like this, it seems fun lol
How can de Gini Index be 3 and 4, when the maximum is 1?
Thanks for the objective opinions on the video. I've never met Greeks personally, but from what I've watched from documentaries, they're good people. As you can see, I am writing from Turkey. But I am not Turkish. I belong to the Kurdish minority, which makes up 4/1 of the total population in Turkey. There are many advantages to be gained if the two countries are friends and allies. It is unfortunate that this situation has been rendered invisible by the extremist and partisan forces on both sides. We ordinary citizens have no choice but to hope that peace wins and to pave the way for peace like an ant. Stay in peace and love.
Had be Ordan dortte biriymis de yok Türk değilmiş de ne bölücülük yapıyosun hemde ingilizce
@@gokhangokhan5582 Yukarıda yazdığım paragraftan bölücülük yaptığımı nasıl çıkardın anlamıyorum. Sadece iki ülke halklarına dair kısa bir değerlendirme yaptım. Bu ülkede Kürt'de var, Laz'da var, Çerkez'de var, Pomak'da var, Ermeni'de var , ve tabiki Yahudi'de var. Ve tabiki diğer halklarda. Biz varız ve buradayız. Bu ülkeye hala inancım var.
Her varım diyene de bölücü demeyin artık. Kavramları bu kadar basitleştirmeyin. Buradayız demek / buradayım demek beni / bizi bölücü yapmaz. Bizler aynı toprak parçası üzerinde yaşayan farklı milletleriz. Bunu kabul etsende etmesende bu böyle. Bu bir zenginliktir. Bunu böyle görmek gerekir. Bak bunu Türkçe yazdım.
I don't understand how you deduced that I was divisive from the paragraph I wrote above. I only made a brief assessment of the peoples of the two countries. In this country, there are Kurds, Laz, Circassians, Pomaks, Armenians, and of course Jews. And of course other peoples. We exist and we are here.
Don't call everyone who says "I exist" as a divider anymore. Do not simplify the concepts so much. Saying we are here / saying I am here does not make me / us divisive. We are different nations living on the same piece of land. This is how it is whether you accept it or not. This is a wealth. This is how you should see it. See the English translation.
Ez fêm nakim te çawa ji wê paragrafa ku min li jor nivîsîbû fêhm kir ku ez dubendî bûm. Min tenê nirxandineke kurt li ser gelên her du welatan kir. Li vî welatî kurd, laz, çerkez, pomak, ermenî û helbet cihû hene. Û bê guman gelên din. Em hene û em li vir in.
Her kesê ku dibêje “ez heye” êdî wek dabeşker nebêje. Têgehan ewqas hêsan nekin. Dibêjin em li vir in / dibêjin ez li vir im, min / me nade dubendiyê. Em netewên cuda ne ku li ser heman erdî dijîn. Bi vî rengî ye, hûn qebûl dikin an na. Ev dewlemendiyek e. Bi vî awayî divê hûn wê bibînin. Binêrin ev wergereke xerab a kurdî ye. Lewra mixabin ez bi qasî tirkî zimanê xwe yê zikmakî kurdî nizanim.
Son olarak şunu söylemek istiyorum. Yapıcı ve güzel bir cümle yazmayacaksan lütfen hiçbirşey yazma. Çünkü çok yorgunum ve uyumak istiyorum. Hayatında mutluluklar dilerim.
@@YusufBeklen niye ingilizce yaziyosun ki Yani bide Kürtçe yazıyorsun amacın ne bölücülük yapıyosun işte biz varız ne demek ben sana yoksun mu dedim senin etnik kökenin ne olduğu beni ilgilendirmiyor Kürt olman seni ilgilendirir Ama Bu ülke vatandasi Olan herkes etnik kökeni ne olursa olsun Türk ust kimliğini kabul etmiş olur bu kadar açık ve net kabul etmeyen de paşa gönlü bilir
Yok uykusu varmış da yok Bilmem ne bide bildiği dilleri yazıyor sanki ordinaryus Prof sun da bide bilmişlik tasliyosun bende ingilizce rusca fransizca yazayım madem dil bilmek marifet burası Türkiye Cumhuriyeti bu ülkenin ust kimliği Türk olmaktır siz Kürtlerin Almanyada Fransa nasıl Alman isimleri alip asimile olduğunu biliyorum hiç bana Yok bizde varız biz buradayız acimatasyon yapma bi ülke nin resmi dili Türkçe Begenmiyorsan Kuzey Irak'a git orda resmi dil Kürtçe
Despite the rivarly between the goverments many greeks and turks are visiting each others country for holidays. In my mind this rivarly is the plan of a bigger player (usa) to keep those countries investing in their army bcs they are close to russia. And this rivarly i repeat its mostly within our goverments and their poor choises!
Why would the US want infighting within NATO? As was seen recently with Turkey blocking Finland and Sweden’s accession to NATO it doesn’t benefit anyone within the alliance to encourage conflict between member states.
Lol what a joke, the US basically bends over backwards for Turkey. This rivalry does not serve American interests at all.
@@paganphoenixguitar they are not encourage it but they are doing nothing about it. Almost every single day turkey is violating greek waters and airspace. That means that greece is feeling safer with more american millitary bases and thats why they imposed santions against turkey. They are only members of nato bcs they are getting a lot of economical support and they are double crossing the aliance. They cant be trusted but for now the usa is turning a blind eye as. Anyway its difficult topic to explain it from here and its also my opinion. I might be wrong.
So you are one that believes that this whole thing with Erdogan is just a play! If only I was as "carefree" as you.
@@paganphoenixguitar The US doesn't want that. Especially now. However, one Islamofascist president over there wants to conquer half the Aegean and more in order to accomplish a variety of goals. The problem is real. It is only a matter of when.
@8:40 I do not get it. How is 3.14 and 4.19 between 0 and 1? Did you mean to divide the numbers with 10? Or maybe multiply them by 10 and replace the 1 with 100.
thank you for adding the Greek anthem to the backround of your video
Im not muslim, i am Agnostic but in my ID, its says i am muslim. Most of the non-muslim population of Turkey is like this. I think there is non-muslim population around 9-10%.
@@alanay yeah but you will get discriminated and refused jobs and all from extremely religious people
@@alanay Its just don't worth the paperwork and time to deal with that and not being a sunni muslim while Erdoğan is in charge is like being a black american before the civil rights.
@@alanay Wdym, i am serious. For these islamists, if you are not sunni muslim, you are just a evil creature that disturbing them.
@@alanay You live in your own bubble. You don’t know shit. Go give your id with Atheist writing to a Traffic police during a control and see what happens.
Soon Turkey will be a Christian country
Could you compare Russia and Ukraine? Or US and Canada? Or even like Colombia and Venezuela? There are a lot of comparisons for countries
yes we need Columbia vs venezuela
Is the Gini 0.314 and 0.419? You said it’s between 0-1 but said 3 and 4… got confused.
What software does he use to make the whiteboard sketches?
Just a tiny adjustment. In 8:08 you showed the wrong lira symbol. The correct one should be ₺. Anyways love your content, keep up the good work.
Some inaccuracies: 1) Greece was the Empire of Alexander and not just a part of it. For this reason the era has since been called Hellenistic (Greek). Also, both populations were not part of Byzantium(East Rome) and Rome. The majority of the inhabitants of Turkey are of Turko-Mongolian and Arab origin. That is, there were no Turks in Rome and Byzantium. Byzantium(Graecorum imperium ,east Rome) was also in essence a Greek empire and not a simple part of it.Even the name Anatolia is greek means East province in Greek
2) Greece has an aging population but has one of the longest life expectancies in Europe. In other words, the Greeks live much longer than the Turks. 3) Greece has less population but much more homogeneous compared to Turkey which consists of dozens of ethnic groups. 4) Greece typically has 98% Christians and not 81% as the video say. These Christians are all Greek Orthodox. On the contrary, Turkey has many important sects such as the Alevis, who number over ten million. 5) flag of modern turkey was the flag of Greek Byzantium city state which became Constantinople in Roman times.... Thus the pagan symbol passed to the Islamic world after the fall of the city.
@@karazipkaKRZP Unfortunately, your fairy tales were neither historically nor genetically correct. Same language, same religion, same faces and same DNA as every research proves. The desperate attempt of the invaders (peoples without history) to wipe out the Greeks in order to establish themselves in the region shows how important we are... After all, the new Greek state is already 200 years old. I don't think you have the knowledge to refer to the Greco-Roman era. The fact that Eastern Rome was called Graecorum Imperium from Latins is enough...
When the official story will changes..
come back with new farytales.😂
@@karazipkaKRZP source of what you are saying?
Beo everything correct exzept the flag thing the coulour yellow and r3d comes from the citz but not the halfmoon
@@karazipkaKRZP umm are your mom and dad brother and sister??
Crescent was used in göktürk coins way before the Turks was in anatolia. It was not exclusive to Turks ofcourse but even the turks in egypt used crescent like mamluks.
Could you please consider doing a Portugal and Spain comparison?
Can you please do the regions of Spain? Why did Portugal 2:08 develop separately?
Turkish minimum wage: 300€ (30.08.2022)
Turkish inflation: %170(approximately) %78(official)
Turkish religion: %70-75 Muslim(approximately)
Also, Turkish and Greek people should live in peace. As a Turkish citizen, there is no direct hostility between me and a Greek citizen
- Peace at home, peace in the world -
he is talking about gross salary not net
Please do morocco and algeria next
I think you should’ve made an announcement at the beginning about the name change and then used the correct name of “Türkiye” for the rest of the video.
Could you do The Territorial Evolution Of ROMANIA? (Including Dacia)
lots of love from Greece to Turkey we only want peace
"Sī vīs pācem, parā bellum", I advice you to prepare for war ...
Haha
Peace- Turkey?? Lol
we want peace either brother
Are you promoting peace by allowing America to use your country as a military base? Or by killing refugees at sea?
Haha
Peace- Greece?? LOL!
Greek people won't accept the threats of Turkey. Even if population is lower we have proven in the various conflicts we had with the neighbours that doesn't mean anything at all. Anatolia is the lost homeland and part of Greece. Although things have changed and now the Turkish Government wants even our islands! THAT'S NOT ACCEPTED ACCORDING WITH THE TREATY OF LAUSANNE!
Dood cringe
@Hülagü Kağan I'm sorry you won't 😝
According to the Lausanne Treaty, the islands cannot be armed.
@Sinhigh we do not threaten them, they do not comply with agreements and they behave aggressively
@Sinhigh my friend, I do not recommend you to act with what you heard from the media without doing any research.
there's a small mistake around 4:40. The Hellenic Republic(aka Greek State) is directly affiliated with the Christian Orthodox church, which means that Greek Orthodox priests(like imams of the muslim minorities) are being paid by the state
Good video Hello from Turkey
With such allies no enemies are needed
05:40 - Note: The crescent and star symbol are much older than Islam itself it's not necessarily a symbol of "Islam" and is also not recommended to practice symbolism in Islam. As example we can look at the Romans because they used this symbol as well. The Turks use it because of historical and cultural reasons.
I can say that about religion as young Turk, a considerable amount of younger Turk became not Muslim because currently government has hard islamic policy(conservative) that's why younger have opportunity to query religions.
Minimum wage: 713 euros vs. 440 euros? That sounds VERY high for an hourly wage and totally inadequate for an annual salary. So, what's the time frame involved?
It is meant as a minimum monthly wage.
@@TheCongestus geez, I was going to suggest weekly
Now its 750 for Greece and 310 for Turkey
@@user-jj6rw5bo9m but türkiye using own currency not euro i mean türkiye is cheaper than greece
Very cool video, been to both countries and both were incredible,
Nevertheless the ageing society of Greece was very evident compared to turkey and I think it’s a overlooked factor, as a population is what sustains the country, Greeks one of the oldest populations of the world with Japan, the future is uncertain. 🇵🇰🇬🇧🇬🇷🇹🇷
The reason of the aging problem with Greece is because many Greeks who are young move to other countries. I think that's mainly because of young people not wanting to study in Greece as they know they can do better. As a Greek, going abroad is currently a solution to many due to opportunities and stuff. However, stuff is improving as some young people stay.
As a Greek I believe our future is together with Turkey. We have more in common than what separates us. Our governments is the issue. Much love from Greece komsu💙🧿
only with western turkey...
What our gov made against turkey?
You're right bro, I totally agree with what you said. We do not see our Greek brothers as enemies, but as our brothers and sisters with whom we have lived and loved for centuries.
Both Greek and Turkish were religious, but if you try to discuss some topic about *ay, *bian in Turkey, u will got a * day. But advantages Turkish get was military and men's soccer team
You forgot Kasteloriso island. It is between Rodos and Cyprus, and it is a major topic for both countries.
Το Καστελόριζο είναι ελληνικό.
You mean Meis island
@@tk5gqj514 Meis is from Megisti
All aegian islands have greek names for thousands yrs
Why is it a hot topic? Kasteloriso is Greek, period! What's the dispute?
as a greek i can confirm that we respect the turks and the goverment and nationality is the fault wenow in drama! (i mean both nations having problems with goverment and etc)
θα πρεπε να ντρεπεσαι γιαυτα που λες
ουτε Ελληνας εισαι ουτε τιποτα
@@xrhstoslalalala8269 i tourki einai kali anthropi oso eimaste kai emis esi prepi na ntrepese pou den tous apodexese san anthropos
@@someonethatlikesyou7713 Είσαι απλά μικρός (απ' ότι φαίνεται). Όλοι είναι καλοί άνθρωποι αλλά όταν έρχεται η ώρα να βγει το ψωμί, αν δεν πέσεις στη μάχη θα στο φάει ο Τούρκος και θα πεινάσεις και εσύ μαζί με τους δικούς σου ανθρώπους. Είναι τελείως απλοϊκός τρόπος για να περιγραφούν τα πολύπλοκα γεωπολιτικά συμφέροντα αλλά αυτή τη στιγμή είμαστε εμείς ή οι Τούρκοι. Και οι δυο δεν γίνεται.
Εσείς συμφωνείτε να απειλή η Τουρκία την Ελλάδα;;;
@@katerinatsoliakou235 I know it's not asked to me but as a Turk I see no reason for a threat against Greece but the government is what's bad.
8:45 a scale from 0 to 1 shouldn't have values of 3.14 and 4.19 on it
It’s 0.314 and 0.419
As a historian i came to see comment wars and dumdums theories to see. If you are not Turk or Greek do not say anything about our similarities or differences. We can argue or fight but this is our business. End of the day we will drink Rakı or Uzo.
Orhan, as a historian, tell me from the Turkish perspective, the reasons of why Turks hate Greeks according of what you learn
@@DaimonaC Not disclosing or sharing historical facts. You rebelling as a puppet of UK and France. It may be because you massacred innocent Turkish Cypriot families and children in Cyprus. Also you should stop stealing our cuisine. I can give you tons of examples but you guys are not understand those things. Sometimes I think you have an inferiority complex.
@@OrhanKaanErdem You call rebellion our war of liberation/independence and you expect to talk serious to you, then talk about Cyprus then you hate us because of food ? Don’t share historical facts ? lol do you know any ? you said you are a historian, I doubt. So Sad..
@@DaimonaC I know many fact but you should read and learn. Sometimes you should use your brain for very important subjects. I have greek friends, i dont hate people but i dont disapproval your hypocrite politics. I would like to argue with you whole night but i really need to read some ''historical'' papers. Prepare yourself for next week. Your biggest defeat anniversary is coming :)
@@OrhanKaanErdem hahahah man you don’t have a clue about history, you are a joke really 🤣 prepare for what ? Hahahaahah take your pills and go to sleep 🤣🤣🤣
I expected to see some coverage on how their cuisine/food is similar.
Η συνταγές ταξιδεύουν .
lol yeah and some hilarious musical genre
In Greece you can go to the military from 16 yo if you want. Also the size of our million has increased to 400k(reserves and active) but the government plans to double it
@@blablabla0990 what kind of Turko-mongolic language is this?
@@thegreekguy1124 there was an error. I wasn't going to write the here. Also, mongolian and Turkish are different languages . Mongols and Turks are different races . I wish you hadn t written back because you are ignornant.
@@blablabla0990 I know it just looks like a combination of the 2 maybe a central Asian language or something. It looks weird to me. Am sure I I was to send you something in Greek would look weird and different to you too
@@blablabla0990 Also there were Turko-Mongolic tribes and Turkish DNA comes from today's Mongolia as that's where the Turkic tribes start migrating from
@@thegreekguy1124 turkish DNA is mostly native anatolian DNA not monfol wheres your proof
percentage of muslim population in turkey is something like %85. but it's less in young population, probably %65-75
not even that much.maybe %90 percent of muslims in turkey just ''cultural muslims''
And that survey says %99 percent of turkey is muslim just funny
@@mahirkuzeycakr116 cultural Muslims yes . majority of people of all religions are like that .they believe in their religions but very few a pious religious people.
I believe you should compare New Zealand and Australia. Or Brazil and Portugal. Or portugal and Spain.
What happened to covering the Economic Exclusion Zones?
Greece is civilised
The people get along fine.. we have lived together for hundreds of years! i love the greek people, have alot of greek friends! its the f’d up politicians that i dont like! there the ones stiring shit! We respect everyones religion! doesnt matter what religion you are.. aslong as your a good person.. for hundreds of years we’ve lived like family! 🇹🇷🇬🇷
I have to say if those two flags 🇬🇷🇹🇷 decide to work together for the well being of the people they will be the most powerful countries in all Europe!but.....others have other plans and we both r so stupid to see this!
@@stewiegriffin5517 America has other plans! America used Ukraine against Russia.. Did America stand side by side with Ukraine against Russia? NO! Americas going too do the same thing too the Greeks!
@@tolgaa2613 American always went to other countries causing problems wars and killings.its what they do for years now.if the world cant see this then we r all stupid!!
Can a comparison between two balkan states. One should be Romania and the other you choose
there is incomplete information, there were other Turkish empires before and during the Ottoman period, some of them also adopted the Jewish and Christian faith.
The goverments retain the rivalry with ordinary Turkish people we don't have anything to separate, especially Turkish People who live at the coast of the Aegean sea have similarities with us
Ask them if they respect the that Aegean islands are Greek. They still believe that wasn't a fair share in the treaty of Lausanne, forgetting however that in 1920 the other side of the Aegean was Greek, and the borders were set because we lost that part in the war.
@@ViLLaPar0s The Ottoman empire already held Western Anatolia during Mudros. Claiming it was not fair because you got kicked out of lands which you agressively invaded after the ceasfire is ridiculous. The main problem with the islands is that Greece tries to lock Turkey to a very limited maritime border by adopting a maximalistic attitude. No country in the world would accept such partition.
@@atakanpayman This is the international law, accept it or not. Islands have EEZ, and because almost all Aegean islands are Greek, the Aegean sea is Greek. Even better, we should expand our territorial waters to 12 nm so the 86% of the Aegean, is of Greece's sovereignty.
@Hülagü Kağan it isn't that easy now, it would be impossible after 2025 when Greek armament will be completed.
@@ViLLaPar0s extreme nationalist and maximist policies against Turkey are more likely to fail miserably. And for your information, international lae is not solid and based on mutual consensus. So Greece can not enforce anything, there are many cases of "mainland ignroing island"s in the world which would benefit Turkey. And I do hope you realise you will not be able to increase your limit to 12 miles. Even your crazy idea of self declared 12 mile airspace is ignored and is a joke for everyone.
Characteristics of the Byzantine Empire
After its capital was established in the east, the empire became, in scholarly parlance, the Eastern Roman Empire. Furthermore, because Constantine and all of his successors (except Julian the Apostate, 361 63) were Christians, the empire from here on can also be called the Christian Roman Empire. As a consequence of these two changes the Roman Empire had become the Byzantine. However, though used by scholars, none of these three names was used at the time. Though the empire had its center in a Greek cultural and linguistic area, as a result of which there followed a gradual hellenization of its institutions and culture, the emperors recognized no change. The empire remained the Roman Empire and the citizens (even though Greeks came to domi nate it) still called themselves Romans. The term Hellene (Greek) connoted a pagan. The term Byzantine was an invention of Renais sance scholars after the fall of the Byzantine Empire and was never used by its contemporaries. By the middle of the seventh century Greek had become the official language of all spheres of government and the army; nevertheless the empire remained "Roman" and despite divisions of its territory at times it was always seen as a single unit. Essentially the Byzantine Empire was a combination of three major cultural components: (1) Roman in political concepts, administration. law, and military organization. (2) Greek in language and culture, and (3) Christian in religion.
Fine, J., 1991. The early medieval Balkans. Ann Arbor: The University of Michigan Press, p.16.
endorgan just brain washes the Turkish population and tries to make up things for people to forget their problems (like the downfall of their economy)
fat benis
Turkic power 🐺🇹🇷🇹🇲🇺🇿🇰🇿🇰🇬🇦🇿🐺
Yes byzantine empire was greek 👍
@@wankawanka3053 😂😂😂
7:01 you didnt mention the duration of military service for men. university graduates serve for 6 months and non-uni. graduates serve for 12 months.
Turkish people came in the region about 1000 AD
Everyone knows it
There were Anatolians before the Greeks. Anatolians were never Greek. you have no right to talk about it
@@hakan5531 those anatolians weren't turkish or turkic as well, so you have especially no right to talk about it either
@@zharyel9890 I didn't talk already
I love Greek history and respect its mythology. I have a close Greek friend and we have a great time together. I hope these two historically powerful states will be close brothers 🇹🇷❤️🇬🇷
" Historical states" ? " Brothers"?
Nomads from cen Asia has nothing to do with the birthplace of western civilization lol
@@elenilepouri7253 Who are you calling nomads? Lands that have changed hands many times in history.
@@ZeynelWorld Who are you who compares your aggresive country with Greece?? Lol
@@ZeynelWorld bunlarla arkadaş mı olunur gözleri bizim ülkenizde yaptıkları katliamın haddi hesabı yok
Most of greeks you will ask(including me)they will say that the "Byzantine" empire was Hellenic(Greek).
false, also people who label themselves Greek are Rums of east and mid Türkiye. Greeks are extinct in history abt 2500 years ago.
As a greek we have to realize that the people in the byzantine empire didn't called themselves Greek, they believed they were the rightful people to be called Romans, they would tell you that they are Romans not Greek, but after the change of the language in laws from romans to greek it really became a greek empire but the people there didn't know that, later the historians change the empire name to byzantine in order to be more greek than Roman
@@generalgrievous3760 it doesnt matter how they called themselves ethnically they were greeks evev if they didnt know it
In the late byzantine period they recognized themselves as both hellenes and romans they are not mutually exclusive terms.
I suppose in language, religion yes!
6:38
All countries ? Actually every forth country has no access to the sea.
The marine of my country (also a landlocked country ⛑) is one company with 11 boats.
He said “almost all” not all
Greece
Pros
- Eastern Gate of the EU for Trade, Pipelines, and businesses (massive potential to capitalize on this)
- Massive Tourism Industry for the size of the country
- Strategic mountainous and easy to defend geography
- A well respected, stable and trustworthy democratic nation
- A united largely homogenous and well educated population/work force
Cons
- Thousands of islands are very expensive to maintain, as there is a need for tens or hundrends of ports, airports, and other infrustructure to support them, let alone supply them.
- Mountainous country makes building transportation infrastructure hard to develop and expensive
- Relatively small and aging population
- Corruption is somewhat high
- The economy although fast recovering from the crisis is still not very good.
- The need to field and pay for a massive military force (for its size) to defend from Turkey.
Turkey
Pros
- Large and relatively young population
- Large and somewhat easy to defend geographical location, especially the wealthier regions in Eastern Anatolia.
- A strong manufacturing sector, and a very promising economy
- An unflinching pull of international investors to the economy, despite recent problems.
- Strong Armed forces and defence industry guarantee the nation's safety
- A large Tourism industry
Cons
- Economy although promising, still needs alot of work.
- Overly aggressive geopolical maneuvering has made its surrounding neighbours and allies distrustful and less eager to cooperate.
- A not very homogenous population, unrest is frequent.
- Massive eastern border is very hard to secure and defend
- A not so stable democracy with an increased danger of military coups.
- Massive and mountainous geography makes developing transportation infrastructure expensive and difficult.
- Corruption is somewhat high
I am Saudi and visited Greece for first time in athene and Mykonos ( we have different culture and religions ) but I had all what I could get of nice respect ( truly hospitality amazing food amazing what else ppl amazing ) offcourse every place in world you will get good and bad buy thanks to god that I just all good in Greece beyond what I could expect ( I found out that relegion difference does not mean differ ppl from other ) what your relegion will benefits you in judgment day if you deed not match with your belieave
Yanlız bazı yemekler türkiyenin
And how does Greeks vs Greeks (Troy vs western city states) has somethind to do with modern day rivory?
i think he simply wanted to state that "there were always a rivalry between Anatolian nations and Greek nations" 😅well not so wrong but its not really related to Turkiye nd Greece rivalry :D
@@enesakhan4032 Troy was a Greek city state......with that logic the w-a-r between Italian and Spanish Greek city states would mean: Italy and Spain always had tensions back then......
@@nxp38_66 Troy was not a greek city state.Greeks are not native people of Anatolia
@@AnatolianHittite troy aas a greek city state and Anatolia was mostly greek after the 1st greek colonization
@@AnatolianHittite yes they are, yo cant understand!
I think we should not reflect the political problems between our governments in our own relations. this is of no concern to us. I have Greek friends, I mean if a person wants, he can find a friend anywhere without discrimination of gender, race, country,
Actually there is a mistake when talking about currency that everyone makes, The Silver Coins are called ' Kuruş ' while the Paper Money are called ' Lira '. People also call 1 Kuruş Either 1 Lira or 1 Kuruş
While it is true the silver coins are generaly called "kuruş" it is not the case with the number "1". Kuruş, is by definition, is the equivilent of 1/100 of a lira. We both have "1 kuruş" and "1 lira". And both are silver coins unlike the USD.
@@atakanpayman biliyom
5:16 I have something to say here. In fact, 99 percent of Turkey is not Muslim. In the past, the government wrote Muslim on the ID of all newborn children. and even the atheist ones didn't want to change it because it was so hard to change. I've heard the real rate is around 88 percent. and this rate is much less in the young population.
I think even 88 percent is too much. I don't believe in any religion and everyone around me is like me. Especially in the new generation, the rate of non-believers is increasing.
Greeks r proud Christians and U people hate your own religion??
@@neonationalist1772 Islam is not the religion of the Turks, we became Muslims after we came to Anatolia. I don't believe in any religion, so I was a deist.
@@_Redronin_ Everyone is converted. Greeks were also not Christians. Their religion was not Christianity. But they r proud people. Turkey will be Christian soon I think.
@@neonationalist1772 Christianity is meaningless and all religions spread from the Middle East. Neither Europeans nor Asians need these outdated religions. I may be a pagan or a Buddhist or even an atheist, but I never believe in Abrahamic religions.
You can not compare light with darkness!
Yes. Your Brain very dark
i liked the comment but it's more like,
grey vs dark
Turks in Anatolia were not only in the Ottoman Empire but also in the Seljuk empire before that.
The combination of Grease and Turkey is very delicious. Just the thought makes me Hungary.
😂😂
I would rather to see both countries cooperate and strengthen together just like US and Canada.
Σε τι να συνεργαστούν;;
@@katerinatsoliakou235 It could be, tourism, agriculture, fishery, energy, economy, transportation and logistics, health and education, cultural and historical values, fresh water, etc. They are the first comes to mind.
Αυτά έχετε καταλάβει;;; Καλά...
Western powers won't like that, they want chaos to feed their stomach and pocket using others!
That's less cooperation and more dominance. Neither Turkey nor Greece would submit to the other.
May peace and love win over all negativity in our region
Im Greek
I'm turk
The rivarly between the two nations began around 1000 AC when turkish tribes start to invade Hellenic(Greek) territories(Byzantine empire) since then many battles and many wars took place with the last one in Cyprus(1974)
My friend, these events would not have happened if EOKA had not tried to kill the Turks living in Cyprus. Your approachment to the Cyprus issue makes no sense. I have never seen a Greek criticize Eoka. You are describing the events of 1974 incompletely, we did not willingly intervene in Cyprus.
I'm an opponent of Erdogan, but there are too many ignorant and stupid people on your side too. I'm afraid to one day the idiots of both sides will start a war.
The Seljuks didn’t tried to invade Anatolia, they wanted to go at war with the Fatimids in Egypt but the Greeks attacked the turks in Manzikirt so the Turks had to defend themselves. Later on they Conquered whole of Anatolia from the Greeks, but it wasn’t planned.
@@cagracar4316 I am not trying to describe what happened in Cyprus but the truth is that both sides made attrocities to eachother.
My point is that Cyprus and most of Anatolia especially the west-central part was Hellenic territories before the turks arrived in that area,ok after many battles and wars and other reasons you took those lands from us and its acceptable the same thing is happening everywhere but now you want to take Aegean sea too and that is no acceptable!
@@panagiotisdouvris8738 No reasonable Turk have a stupid plan as gaining land in 2022. So nobody has a problem with the islands in the Aegean. The only problem is that map claimed by the Greeks for the economic area sharing in the Aegean Sea.