I'm surprised by your conclusions the difference was minimal. If you did that test again tomorrow the results could reverse. What I saw was the same numbers with both balls so was surprised you was so conclusive towards the prov1 X. The price difference in the UK is a no brainer the Bridgestone every time.
Ronnie is looking for every percentage point of improvement so the ProV1X is worth the price point (for him), but that is why we post the data so everyone can make their own informed decision
@Tim O'Hagan to a budget golfer maybe not, but you forget golfers are interesting people who will gladly spend $500 on a new driver hoping to gain a few yards. Spending an extra $1 for a golf ball to gain 3+ yards off the tee doesn't seem nearly as outlandish as $500+ for a new driver
@@kourt2469 Yep, I mentioned something similar in another post. Some players just want to know they are getting the absolutely most performance they can get out of their equipment even if it cost a ton for those marginal gains. If they can get 5 more yards from a $500 driver they will pay for it, if a $500 shaft will give them another 5 they will buy that and if another $1 a ball will give them 3 they will certainly spend that too. If you start to add that up they could be gaining 10-15 yards, which is nothing to sneeze at. Would I spend that money? No, but if you have the money and play alot why not try to get as much gains as you can even as minimal as they may seem? With that said I do question the fact that he would get 3 yards with the ball, based off this small sample there seems to be alot of variables that come into play, perhaps the difference would be wider with more shots or less but just a handful or even a dozen shots wouldn't be enough for me to make a conclusion either way.
@Tim O'Hagan I fully agree here. The Subject of the video 'should a Mid-Handicap play a tour ball' is misleading compared to what the conclusion of the video was. I fully agree that the price is really NOT justified for a mid handicapper. I can hardly see that Ronnie would have gained if even 1 stroke out on the course based on these 2 balls. And we haven't even see him do anything around the green with both balls. I don't know his skill around the green, but most mid handicap golfers will do better with a softer ball around the green. If you take that into account, I even think the conclusion here might be full out wrong. @TXG Tour Experience Golf : I love your videos, but personally I don't think this one is aimed at a mid-handicap audience and is too shallow for such a certain outcome. Like I said, any play around the green is not taken into account and might flip the review to the complete opposite side...
@Tyler Wengel Thanks, you gave me a reason to re-watch. and I've come away feeling like this was a paid advert for Titleist. The body language, tone and facial expressions on the guys in the conclusion part, just dont match the words. Especially Matt at 8:49 with the nose touch. Apols for getting overly analytical and critiquing the work. I really enjoy TXG's content adn this is not a dis to them. I am probably totally wrong. Even if I'm right then they've got loved ones to feed I'm sure. This just left me with a nagging feeling the conclusion was that every golfer 'should' play a pro v1 - which is exactly what Titleist preach themselves.
Hey everyone. Ronnie here. Thanks for your comments & perspectives! Wanted to share my thinking re the question ... is the additional cost worth the benefit of a small lift in ball speed for the 7 iron & driver? In Canada, the difference in cost between the RXS & ProV1X is $5/dozen (CDN$). I buy 5 dozen balls /yr (according to Titleist the avg golfer buys 4 dozen balls /yr). That's an additional $25/yr. Or 55 cents /round (I play about 45 rounds/yr.). Is the additional cost worth it? For me, a slow swinging, senior, an easy yes.
I’d be more interested in seeing Ronnie hit something like a Tour Response ($35) vs. TP5/5x ($45). That’s the real test for mid-handicappers. Tour B RXS is $44.99 in the US compared to $47.99 for the Pro V1x.
Excited to see this. I have absolutely fallen in LOVE with the B-RXS. I've tested every premium ball out there and for a slower swing speed player, it does everything I want it to. You still get all the benefits of a premium ball but at a lower compression point allowing me to get the most out of it. When I try things like the TP5 & ProV, I just don't feel like I ever hit it hard enough to get the full performance.
Just switched to B-RXS & hit my best score ever - love them - used Pro V1 & TP5 before. I play a yellow ball & the Bridgstone yellow is much easier on my eye.
The consistency was actually tighter in the Bridgestone on 7i and driver I think right? Tighter in the prov1 on partial and wedge shots. If it’s that tight, comes down to feel and price.
Disappointing bias to Titleist on this test. Made a big point about predictability of spin at 6:39 then completely ignored the fact the Bridgestone had better standard deviations on the next two sets of spin data. You'd have to be stupid to pay the extra for a ProV.
Yes and no mention of the high cost of the Titleist ball either. The difference is so miniscule it could easily be variance in swing. I feel like they are pushing Pro-V1's really hard.
@@primetimegamer0074 Its a shame but I think you're right. Do they honestly think a handicap golfer is going to notice a negligible difference in spin from 100 yards? It is laughable.
Definitely the first video where I feel this video could easily be made by any other golf reviewer. I'm not going to say Matt and Ian are getting lazy compared to their humbling beginnings years ago, but this video could have been much better if they tested a handful of balls and did a proper ball fitting for Ronnie. This is an important topic that applies to so many viewers. And they know this so why not do it? Why make a video if you limit it to this subpar comparison? The views? A promise to Titleist? I'm not saying this is a Titleist commercial but go back to @1:05 in the 2021 prov video Matt specifically mentions Titleist marketing how you lose strokes not playing premium balls. And now this video. I get it, Titleist sends free stuff and you need to hold up your end of the bargain to make sure the marketing is in the videos. And everyone wants Rick Shiels status...but I would argue in the past 12 months the OEM influence on txg is more noticeable even if Ian and Matt swear otherwise. The way Ian and Matt spoke about pxg not sending free stuff rubbed me the wrong way recently and this video didn't help.
The man is incredibly accurate both distance and deviation from flag. No wonder you use him in your tests. I think it boils down to, if you can afford the best ball then play it. Most of us play golf for fun, not to save $1 a ball.
Love having Ronnie back as many can relate speed and swing wise. Exceedingly valuable information presented and why ball fitting needs to be done. Thanks Ronnie. Well done TXG.
My thoughts exactly. The larger portion of the golf population has swing speeds anywhere from 85-100mph tops. Watching guys with 110-120mph swing speeds does nothing for the average golfer.
Definitely want to see more ball testing with Ronnie! Would really like to see him try lower price balls. Maybe something like Super soft vs Q star tour.
I have been playing the Titleist tour soft. I am a senior, 72 y/o with a relatively slow swing speed. I like the ball but I do want to try the TM tour response.
This is what I was expecting them to test it against. I don't like to say anything negative about their videos cause I love them all but I found this video to have a misleading title at the least. I consider a Bridgestone BRXS a "tour ball" (it's for slower swing speeds but it's still priced in the tour ball catebory), so I thought they'd compare a "tour ball" vs. a mid tier ball like the ones you mentioned.
I liked the test. Given how close the numbers were, it’s hard to give the nod to the pro V1X given the $/performance for Ron. Funny, I assumed the performance gains would be seen in the wedges. I game the Pro V1X when I can and I typically stock up when they go on sale (usually around the holidays)- takes the sting out of paying full retail.
This is SO SIMPLE AND an EASY ANSWER!!! Any player at ANY LEVEL---- can play whatever BALL THEY WANT--- PERIOD!! They should not be PERSUADED or talked down to about what about their choice of ball( based on skill level!) EDUCATING without JUDGING is the PROBLEM, just GIVE the FACTUAL INFO( that is hard for golf companies and REVIEWERS to DO -- honesty, not marketing, not HYPE!)!!!! It is a GOOD thing that players of ALL LEVELS --TRY -- different kinds of golf balls! They WILL LEARN -- through their OWN experimenting --- what works best for them!!! I can remember when I first learned to play, I could NOT FEEL the difference between golf balls; after practicing more and MORE TIME-- I began to get different sleeves from different balls, as I grew more comfortable with my set of clubs --- THEN I could feel the difference!! It was TIME and FEEL for MY CLUBS---- NOT the LEVEL I played at!!!!! YOUR JOB---- is JUST--- FACTUAL, NO HYPE --- TRUTH about how the ball feels and flies!!! YOUR education is very helpful ( when done RIGHT!) with the CAVEAT----- ALL players will have a DIFFERENT FEEL for the ball !!!! Just keep it REAL guys, just the facts, NOT what the golf companies WANT to have INFLUENCE over!!!
I just struggle to get past how clicky the firmer balls are. I currently play the Tour B XS, i just love how it fees across the bag. Thanks again for a great video guys. Much love from Australia.
You guys need to review the Wilson Duo Professional golf ball. It's a high end ball with a low 60 compression. Straighter off the tee and spins more around the green than Prov1's.
I think they did review it on a multi ball review a while ago? Maybe with the project A TM ball. I think. Do you play with it? And do you recommend it?
Also, what's your driver club head speed / driver distance? I'm thinking of using the duo myself. I do like soft balls! 😂. I use supersoft and love the feel. Especially with putting and chipping.
Thank you for this. Examining how a 90/95 ss delivery can be affected by all the options that are available is useful for many. And, Ronnie, wow man, your swing is coming along beautifully.
Ian and Matt I see a few dissenters out there thinking you guys are advertising Titleist. One thing I noticed was Ronnie swinging harder at the 1X . I play both Titleist and Bridgestone, the V1 and V1X feel like bricks so it's Bridgestone for me as they are pretty much identical in performance. Keep up the good work guys the ball testing is great as that's the one part of your game that you can chop and change much more easily cheers.
Looking forward to this one , as a 13 hcap player my ball of choice has been for the last 3 years the Bridgestone B RXS ball, I think it a brilliant ball , very consistent in feel and distance and good spin and £££ :) so underrated brand and ball 😀. Go matty and Ian and RONNIE The rocket 🚀 the average golfer super tester.
I'd suggest you to look at Srixon's too. I've used Titleist's and Bridgestone's in the past, but ever since i tried Srixon Z-Star, it has been my go to. The price isn't bad either.
I am a 13.1 handicap, did a similar test last year. Flight scoped and played comparative practice rounds with all the balls in the recommended range for my handicap and above. There were a few odd cases where I performed very well with a super low compression, slow swing speed ball: Wilson 50 Elite was one. But after time putting, chipping, pitching, sand, irons, and woods. Of the balls I tested I found the same thing. The "Tour Ball" ... Srixon Z-Star XV did what fit my game MORE than anything else. The firmer balls had far more forgiveness and less variance in my long play and spun more in my short game by a large amount (mostly due to the higher quality cover materials). The tour balls also performed better in poor conditions like wet, damp, windy, etc. (Except cold, the lower-compression tour balls like Pro V1, Z-Star and Chrome Soft were better on distance in colder weather). The point of this novel is, watch the vids then do your own testing and make sure to remember that HOW YOU PLAY is important, WHAT YOU WANT FROM YOUR GAME is important. Not what's on the box. Been playing 2 years. No ball will do it for me, but working my butt off to get to a 10 handicap this year.
I love your shows! so happy to have found you guys. this show hit home for me as i just finished a wide range ball test myself. BRX, ProV1x and also e12 Speed and Soft. My index is 7.2 and I've been playing for 47 years - just turned 57. Muscling the ball getting much harder ;) I live in Seattle where golf temps range from low 40's to 80's. But, normal golf temp is upper 50's to low 60's. I wanted to know what distance I was leaving on the table, if any, with V1x. My personal tests were outdoors on the course in temps from 42F to 54F. The results were clear. e12 Soft and Speed were 20+ yards longer than BRX and 30 longer than V1x. Stopping a ball in this region is never an issue so spin would only worry me 5% of the rounds. I took this same test to La Quinta in 70-75 degree temps. Results were different. Now the Speed/Soft only minimally out distanced BRX and V1x. But, again the V1x came up at about 10 yards shorter w/ driver and about a half club on mid-long irons. In my tests it was clear that the spin of the V1x was higher. Less roll on drives, irons pulled back. Price would be King between BRX and V1x. And if it's outdoors and cool the softer balls clearly beat the tour balls. I'd be so interested to see you guys have Matt put this type of ball comparison test together. Again you guys are smashingly fun and helpful to watch - keep it go'n!
I'm a golfer who prefers the feel of a soft golf ball. If I was deciding between the balls, I probable would go with the softer feeling Bridgestone since the distance drop off is marginal with the driver. Side by side, with a putter, I suspect the Bridgestone will feel miles softer than the Pro V1x.
That's where I'm at. I'm a 5 handicap with a little more speed than Ronnie but not much. Shortish hitter still. I played the Pro V1x for a year and loved the performance but didn't love the hard feel, although I got used to it. Went to the RXs last year and much prefer the softer feel. I still think the V1x spins a little more on irons and full wedges for me but after seeing this video, I'm not sure the trade off in feel is worth it to switch from the RXs now.
Looks like we'll have to find a new tester soon. Ronnie will be a scratch players after this season from what I'm seeing with his improved ballstriking. Great to see Ronnie again.
my gripe with this is he always hit the bridgestone first by the time he got to his 6th shot with the prov1x he had a better feel for the shot. His swing was more consistent for those last three shots with the prov1x where he had the swing feel.
Ronnie and I are of similar age and swing speed and I have always been playing ProV1x. Especially since the MyGolfSpy test. I've been pretty much a Titleist guy since the '60's.
Try the Wilson Duo Professional golf bell. It has a lower compression rate of 60. Plays great at lower swing speeds and actually spins better around the greens than the Prov1.
@@stevencarrier5060 I don't but I played them all year last year. My golf partner for league plays the Prov1's. At his swing speed he compresses them just fine. He hits PW 155 with blades. Even he admitted they spin less off the tee with driver and more on chip shots around the green. He now uses them in cold weather when he can't compress the Prov1's. They are a three piece ball with a urethane cover. Just as durable as a proV1 yet only a 60 compression. My driver is a lot straighter when hitting these balls, because I can compresses them.
@@stevencarrier5060 owe and I'm a 3 handicap in my golf league. Trust me The Wilson Duo Professional is a legitimate golf ball. That's $10 to $15 less per dozen than Prov1's.
Would be great to see you test the Bridgestone “R” balls vs the tour b x and tour b xs to see if the Bridgestone marketing is right on them fitting different swing speeds or if everyone should play the former balls.
Ronnie's back! It's a good day. And swinging great. Love this test. I would love as much average-speed testing as you can do, as these numbers are pretty close to mine. Bridgestone did extremely well in the 85 mph categories in both the MGS and the Today's Golfer ball tests, as I recall - in driving and mid-irons. The B-RX in particular.
I think the point of the video, although they didn't spell it out very well, was that it doesn't make sense for lower swing speed players to play a low compression golf ball, regardless of brand. They could have done the same test with a Srixon Z-star or any other tour level ball and found similar results.
I love to play the ProV1...nothing feels like them putting and around the greens. They also sound and feel great off the club face from wedges to driver. Thanks Ronnie and the guys for the videos!
And that's the point. You found your ball. Play it. I hate that ball because I loose more prov1's and x than any other ball. At four bucks a ball my 12 handicap isn't worth it.
@@aliensarereal7832 yea, I have since gone to the Costco Kirkland ball. WAY less expensive and I am with you...at my handicap they are not worth the money.
@@markk171 Have you tried the Vice pro and the pro plus. I spent about 500 bucks this year testing most of the balls out there for the fun of it and that is the one ball that caught my attention the most. Still pricey at $30 a dozen but I buy mine mint for half the price.
@@aliensarereal7832 Yep tried the Vice, a bunch of Callaway, TaylorMade...but for me...the Costco Kirkland performed as well as any and at $25 for 2 dozen balls...what a deal!
@@markk171 Good choice. I buy those mint also for 75 cents to a buck. I really like those also. The fact that you play a kirkland after playing a pro v1 shows that your intelligent. You probably have a really good game. Thanks for responding.
love the stuff you guys post out but this really surprised me. The conviction that he should use that ball was amazing....any very slight gain that could be seen on the GC quad could easily be lost from any issues he may find around the greens with lack of response or feeling from a prov1x. I watched you guys compare shafts/clubs with much better gains that you advise are marginal and could use either club based on strike....love the idea though , would love to see some more comparisons for slower swings
Would love to see you delve into more detail in the short game area. 5 yard chip, pitch over bunker, pin at the back of the green, pin at the front of the green etc. Great video as always!
Great idea! Been trying to get my buddy to drop the entry level balls and move into a premium ball. Would like to see you compare a low end/entry level ball (top flight xl distance, taylormade distance +, etc) to a premium ball.
As a mid-high handicap I was playing a Wilson dou soft, which I love when it comes to putting. Switched last year to a Srixon Z star. Would be interesting to see what kinda numbers Ronnie would get with the dou soft versus a premium ball.
I've only been playing golf for a year (20-25 index now), but today I played the Pro V1x for the first time, and I just SMASHED my drives. I carried 270 average while I usually carry 250. I had the wind with me but still... I totally felt I earned distances. I earned distance on every single drives, on every holes (even when the wind calmed down). My first drive on the first hole might even have been a 280 carry (the wind helped me a bit). Ball was so long I thought it wasn't mine. I was TOTALLY impress (and so were the golfers playing with me, low handicapper seniors). And I usually play Pro V1's (or mid-range balls like Srixon AD333). But the Pro V1x felt like a bomb off the tee. I ordered a dozen right when I got back home. And to be honest I always thought balls tech is some kind of bullshit, but I have to admit that I am now a believer.
I update my comment to tell that I just made my first 300 yards drive (total distance) on the course last week, it was actually a 305 yards drive, and with no wind. (I have one year of golf). And it was perfectly straight ! Ironicaly the ball was a Pro V1. (not the X version). But I still prefer the Pro V1x for the higher launch and the firmer feel.
Think I’ll stick to my Bridgestone golf balls. Hate loosing Pro V1’s cause of how much they cost. We got a lot of trees on the course I play here in Nebraska. Still enjoying the videos 👍👍👍.
With these numbers and from what I’ve heard about the soft feel around the green with the Bridgestone B RX I think I would lean towards the Bridgestone. Just my opinion
Very interesting.... I play the RXS because I love a very soft feeling ball and have played the soft Bridgestone ball for 10 years. Looks like I should do some ball testing to see of I can get more speed but also have a soft feel. To give you an idea of how I love a soft feel with my wedges and putting, I love the feel of the Wilson low compressing balls with my wedges, they feel fantastic. I don't play them as they do not suit my long game with a driver speed of abiut 102 mph.
The results demonstrate that there is very little difference between the balls; a great deal more importance must be attributed to the consistency of a club player’s swing.
He was swinging 1.5 mph faster when hitting prov 1x (with Driver) which it turn should give him more ball speed...Not worth the money difference for me.
this is not necessarily true. It comes down to compression off the face. If a long driver hits a ball with something like a 70 compression ball his ball speeds will be down because the ball sits on the face longer and doesn't transfer the energy as efficiently. This is exactly why long drivers hit 110 compression balls so it spends the optimal amount of time on the face and efficiently transfers energy. This is also why range balls are usually around 70 compression.
I did an on course assessment between ProV1x and B-Rxs. My results were similar to this video. There were no consistent differences in the performance on any club. The great majority of shots were within 1-3 yards with both balls. However, when I did pure the shot, the ProV1x did travel further. I like the feel of ProV1x in short game and putting. That was the difference maker for me. I stuck with the ProV1x.
New to this post, but prior to your conclusions ... I came away thinking the B-RXS was the ball for your student, I believe it to be worth a try. Thankyou for the comparison.
The Bridgestone is still a premium ball. Need Ronnie to test the Pro-V vs a Srixon Q-Star Tour or Tour Response etc. Is there performance improvement/loss for the significant price difference.
This is a great low-compression vs. high-compression ball test for a mid-handicapper but I think it might be a bit misleading to call it a "tour" ball vs. "non-tour" ball test. While the Tour B RXS is decidedly not a tour ball (they even say this), it is priced like it is at $44.99/dozen. At that price point, there is no meaningful reason to use the Bridgestone over the ProV1x. Wouldn't it be more appropriate, then, to compare Pro V1x to, say, something like a Titleist Tour Speed or Taylormade Project (a)? Or even something cheaper like a Vice or direct-to-consumer? In other words, most mid- to high-handicappers I know don't play ProV's because of the price, not because they don't think it's better. Great video regardless.
I gamed the Snell MTB Red a few years ago and it was firm but so consistent for me. The low launch / high spin around the greens gave me so much more control. I just bought some Mizuno RB Tour X and I'm excited to see how I get on with them. My driver speed is around 100mph.
Hi Guys, Love the wide range of content you produce. Would be cool if you completed a video on the effects of different levels of golf ball wear. For example, unblemished vs. one set of groove marks vs. a whole round's worth of groove marks vs. cart path scuff, etc. There is a lot of info out there on aerodynamics and effects of dimples, but I can't find anything that compares ball flights, spin rates, carry distances, etc. over different levels of golf ball wear. Keep doing good things 👍
Thanks for your great in depth content. What about a say 2 handicap golfer. I get lots of spin with wedges, sometimes too much. Steep swing. Question is what Tour type ball should I play. GOAL. Accuracy off the tee and feel around the green. Almost feel Pro V1 has too much spin. Is a Chrome Soft a better option ? Or is a higher spinning ball better off the tee for accuracy ? I never know if I must play the X or not. Please help ? Or do I play a ball that spins a little less ?
The TM Tour Response tested (spin and distance) just as well as the TM TP5 & TP5x in TXGs Apr 11, 2020 testing, It's considerably less expensive than Pro Vs and TP5s. They also stated that players with lower swing speeds would probably benefit from the Tour Response. Both the Pro Vs and TPs are way too high compression for us average swing speed players to maximize distance. I personally lose 5-7 yards with mid irons and drivers using high compression balls.
The spin dispersion on his 7 iron was far better with the Bridgestone and he was swinging a bit faster with his driver when hitting the ProV1 so it is hard for me to see how it would be worth the extra dollars for what was basically a toss-up.
I’ve tried the Bridgestone and it’s a great ball. But I do play a Pro V1x. I do notice it’s hotter off the driver than the Bridgestone. Just got a box of the new Pro V1x’s can’t wait to try them this coming weekend.
colour me confused... if efficiency was the same (on driver) at 1.46 the increase in ball speed on the pro v1x must surely be down to the club head speed being 1.2mph faster (i.e 86.9 vs 85.7)
It is his efficiency from his “best drive with pro v1x” in that particular frame, he might have actually had a higher efficiency with the pro v1 x as an average and just had one swing where his club speed jumped. Granted, I agree it’s a little fishy. Most people would see this and think the Bridgestone is pretty good for the money
No offense to the boys but all these golf review channels could use some basic statistics courses. If you equate the swing speeds of the two balls (Ronnie swung harder at the ProV) the higher launch and lower spin of the Bridgestone would actually give him a few extra yards of distance at that swing speed. Lower spin off the driver will play a bit better into the wind and the higher launch will benefit more with the wind.
@@johnnypenso9574 the hardest thing about these is they don't show real world results. One of The main factors in flight is dimple patterns which you can't test in a simulator, not that there really is a great way to test that anyways unless you have some sort of wind tunnel or something. Slightly more spin can very easily come from strike location or club face angle as much as it can from type of ball. Basically most balls in the same category tend to perform so closely on simulator testing.
a $4,000 dollar pair of shoes with good spikes can get you at least .5 cm gain in distance for all clubs. So, it's worth it for the high, mid, low handicapper.
Great show. Ronnie almost exact numbers as me. But I prefer Snell Black or Pro V1... just feel vs Snell MTB-X or Pro-V1x. And I can play any of them...
How would the Bridgestone Tour BX golf ball compare to the 2021 Titleist Pro V1 for a mid handicap golfer? This would be a test I would be greatly interested in if you can make it happen one day. Thank you & keep up the good work.
Interesting you said that, Ian indicated we need to test new clubs to see if I can pick up some much needed speed while maintaining the forgiveness I get from the PingG410 Plus
@@rp6163 it would be good to see if these new clubs do indeed increase speed for the average golfer, given we are the target audience, plus the forgiveness, 20 yards further in the trees isn’t worth the investment 😜
So looks like we are in new ball testing season? How about taking a look at the OnCore balls? They've got a few different offerings and its been awhile since anyone has even mentioned the brand let alone tested the newer Tour ball they offer.
There is no way with this test you can say that the Pro v1 is definitely better. At best there was a 2yd difference which isn’t enough to say that it’s gonna be consistently longer. All shots outside the driver were neck and neck on distance with the driver being 2yd difference. Not to mention spin is more consistent with Bridgestone on longer shots. I don’t game either ball but your conclusions here make no sense. (Ps love the channel so keep the vids coming.)
Currently play the B-RXS shifted from Pro-V1. Toying with AVX, like the feel and lower ball flight in the wind plus a little more distance with mid irons. Spins fine around the greens on soft U.K. courses.
I went from a V1 to the V1x because of the increased spin with irons and wedges into a green. The AVX is great off the driver, but for me where i play in Australia the ball doesn't spin enough around the greens (unless you like to bump and run everything) to be usable. The Price here between RXS and ProV1x is $74 vs $80 AUD a dozen ($18 vs $21 for a sleeve) not a huge amount in the scheme of things. Good to see Ronnie back!
The problem is that data is only part of the game right. If we like a set of balls or clubs, we might just swing better because we trust it more. So if your dad just feels the ball the right I guess it is better to stick with that. For example, Miura's fitting facility still uses not data at all, not saying that fits everyone but people just have a different preferences.
RXS slightly better on wedges, Pro V1X slightly better on 7 iron. I think RXS wins on driver due to lower spin and higher launch for slower swing speeds. VERY disappointed that you showed bias in declaring Pro V1X the clear winner.
I’d like to see the comparison of these vs an e6 or e12 as well. Just to get an idea. I struggle with the same bc I like the ProV1 with the irons and wedges/putter, but feel like I need the extra distance with the e6.
Nowhere on the Titleist website or in their official training do they ever talk about clubhead speed being a factor on what ball you play. Their reasoning is that a golfer uses a wide variety of swing speeds during a round.
The only test missing is the putting…feeling wise the difference is day/night between these two balls. But it remains both excellent choices. Saw the comparable elsewhere on RUclips with B RXS vs B RX and B RXS was a clear winner on each vectors despite a low compression and soft feeling vs a 79 compression for B RX
Other than $20+ price difference. Those Bridgestone balls are on amazon for 22-28$ a dozen all the time, they vary from week to week but just and buy bulk when they go low.
I wouldn't necessarily agree with results it really all depends on feel off the club around greens and especially putting ... There was very little between them on the stats ...
That’s a valid conclusion for Ronnie, but I found when I am not striking it consistently, ProV1(x) varies just a bit too much because of higher spin when hit a groove or two too low and fall out the air versus the ball I am now playing BRX......I am. Titleist Prov1(x) fan but it needs consistent strike to get the best for me and I ain’t there with the amount I am playing....
I know this was for Ronnie, but I’d like to see the difference in different price pint balls. Like the e12 from Bridgestone. There only a couple dollar difference from the b-rxs and pro V1. I guess I was just expecting a different video when comparing a “tour ball” to a lesser ball
I am playing the Wilson Duo soft I am a 14 handicap. Once in a while I will play a Pro-V-1 or a TP-5. Just my personal game I do not feel much of a difference and my scores are not coming down. Play the ball you like and you feel you get the most out of.
I'm surprised by your conclusions the difference was minimal. If you did that test again tomorrow the results could reverse. What I saw was the same numbers with both balls so was surprised you was so conclusive towards the prov1 X. The price difference in the UK is a no brainer the Bridgestone every time.
Ronnie is looking for every percentage point of improvement so the ProV1X is worth the price point (for him), but that is why we post the data so everyone can make their own informed decision
@Tim O'Hagan to a budget golfer maybe not, but you forget golfers are interesting people who will gladly spend $500 on a new driver hoping to gain a few yards. Spending an extra $1 for a golf ball to gain 3+ yards off the tee doesn't seem nearly as outlandish as $500+ for a new driver
@@kourt2469 Yep, I mentioned something similar in another post. Some players just want to know they are getting the absolutely most performance they can get out of their equipment even if it cost a ton for those marginal gains. If they can get 5 more yards from a $500 driver they will pay for it, if a $500 shaft will give them another 5 they will buy that and if another $1 a ball will give them 3 they will certainly spend that too. If you start to add that up they could be gaining 10-15 yards, which is nothing to sneeze at. Would I spend that money? No, but if you have the money and play alot why not try to get as much gains as you can even as minimal as they may seem?
With that said I do question the fact that he would get 3 yards with the ball, based off this small sample there seems to be alot of variables that come into play, perhaps the difference would be wider with more shots or less but just a handful or even a dozen shots wouldn't be enough for me to make a conclusion either way.
@Tim O'Hagan I fully agree here. The Subject of the video 'should a Mid-Handicap play a tour ball' is misleading compared to what the conclusion of the video was. I fully agree that the price is really NOT justified for a mid handicapper. I can hardly see that Ronnie would have gained if even 1 stroke out on the course based on these 2 balls. And we haven't even see him do anything around the green with both balls. I don't know his skill around the green, but most mid handicap golfers will do better with a softer ball around the green. If you take that into account, I even think the conclusion here might be full out wrong.
@TXG Tour Experience Golf : I love your videos, but personally I don't think this one is aimed at a mid-handicap audience and is too shallow for such a certain outcome. Like I said, any play around the green is not taken into account and might flip the review to the complete opposite side...
@Tyler Wengel Thanks, you gave me a reason to re-watch. and I've come away feeling like this was a paid advert for Titleist. The body language, tone and facial expressions on the guys in the conclusion part, just dont match the words. Especially Matt at 8:49 with the nose touch. Apols for getting overly analytical and critiquing the work. I really enjoy TXG's content adn this is not a dis to them. I am probably totally wrong. Even if I'm right then they've got loved ones to feed I'm sure.
This just left me with a nagging feeling the conclusion was that every golfer 'should' play a pro v1 - which is exactly what Titleist preach themselves.
Hey everyone. Ronnie here. Thanks for your comments & perspectives! Wanted to share my thinking re the question ... is the additional cost worth the benefit of a small lift in ball speed for the 7 iron & driver? In Canada, the difference in cost between the RXS & ProV1X is $5/dozen (CDN$). I buy 5 dozen balls /yr (according to Titleist the avg golfer buys 4 dozen balls /yr). That's an additional $25/yr. Or 55 cents /round (I play about 45 rounds/yr.). Is the additional cost worth it? For me, a slow swinging, senior, an easy yes.
I’d be more interested in seeing Ronnie hit something like a Tour Response ($35) vs. TP5/5x ($45). That’s the real test for mid-handicappers.
Tour B RXS is $44.99 in the US compared to $47.99 for the Pro V1x.
All these comments about price. We get it. You only care about price
I’m 30 seconds in and it’s my man, Ronnie! I don’t know him from Adam, but every time he’s on the channel I feel like we would be mates.
Excited to see this. I have absolutely fallen in LOVE with the B-RXS. I've tested every premium ball out there and for a slower swing speed player, it does everything I want it to. You still get all the benefits of a premium ball but at a lower compression point allowing me to get the most out of it. When I try things like the TP5 & ProV, I just don't feel like I ever hit it hard enough to get the full performance.
Taylormade Tour Response is giving me the same vibes
Just switched to B-RXS & hit my best score ever - love them - used Pro V1 & TP5 before. I play a yellow ball & the Bridgstone yellow is much easier on my eye.
The consistency was actually tighter in the Bridgestone on 7i and driver I think right? Tighter in the prov1 on partial and wedge shots.
If it’s that tight, comes down to feel and price.
Ronnie and I share very much the same numbers, this is exactly the content I need!
Disappointing bias to Titleist on this test. Made a big point about predictability of spin at 6:39 then completely ignored the fact the Bridgestone had better standard deviations on the next two sets of spin data. You'd have to be stupid to pay the extra for a ProV.
Yes and no mention of the high cost of the Titleist ball either. The difference is so miniscule it could easily be variance in swing. I feel like they are pushing Pro-V1's really hard.
@@primetimegamer0074 Its a shame but I think you're right. Do they honestly think a handicap golfer is going to notice a negligible difference in spin from 100 yards? It is laughable.
I was shocked by their outcome.The difference was so minimal yet their conclusions was so definate.
Definitely the first video where I feel this video could easily be made by any other golf reviewer. I'm not going to say Matt and Ian are getting lazy compared to their humbling beginnings years ago, but this video could have been much better if they tested a handful of balls and did a proper ball fitting for Ronnie. This is an important topic that applies to so many viewers. And they know this so why not do it? Why make a video if you limit it to this subpar comparison? The views? A promise to Titleist? I'm not saying this is a Titleist commercial but go back to @1:05 in the 2021 prov video Matt specifically mentions Titleist marketing how you lose strokes not playing premium balls. And now this video. I get it, Titleist sends free stuff and you need to hold up your end of the bargain to make sure the marketing is in the videos. And everyone wants Rick Shiels status...but I would argue in the past 12 months the OEM influence on txg is more noticeable even if Ian and Matt swear otherwise. The way Ian and Matt spoke about pxg not sending free stuff rubbed me the wrong way recently and this video didn't help.
@@Alex-tl6vz Yes, agree entirely. Very disappointing. They've gone right down in my estimation.
Ron dog an absolute machine on those 50yd pitch shots
He was on fire last week.
The man is incredibly accurate both distance and deviation from flag. No wonder you use him in your tests. I think it boils down to, if you can afford the best ball then play it. Most of us play golf for fun, not to save $1 a ball.
Love having Ronnie back as many can relate speed and swing wise. Exceedingly valuable information presented and why ball fitting needs to be done. Thanks Ronnie. Well done TXG.
My thoughts exactly. The larger portion of the golf population has swing speeds anywhere from 85-100mph tops. Watching guys with 110-120mph swing speeds does nothing for the average golfer.
Definitely want to see more ball testing with Ronnie! Would really like to see him try lower price balls. Maybe something like Super soft vs Q star tour.
@Erik.
Exactly, the numbers won't change dramatically with different balls.
Playing a premium ball won't make a high handicapper a better golfer.
Thank you for the mid-handicap perspective. Keep'em coming.
I wished they'd tested using a mid-range ball like Taylor Made Tour Response or Titleist Tour Soft...something with a bigger price gap.
I have been playing the Titleist tour soft. I am a senior, 72 y/o with a relatively slow swing speed. I like the ball but I do want to try the TM tour response.
This is what I was expecting them to test it against. I don't like to say anything negative about their videos cause I love them all but I found this video to have a misleading title at the least. I consider a Bridgestone BRXS a "tour ball" (it's for slower swing speeds but it's still priced in the tour ball catebory), so I thought they'd compare a "tour ball" vs. a mid tier ball like the ones you mentioned.
This is what I was going to say....not sure how they are saying a $50/dozen is a mid range ball....
And a good low-end ball like the Srixon AD333. I personally doubt a mid handicapper will see much difference.
I liked the test. Given how close the numbers were, it’s hard to give the nod to the pro V1X given the $/performance for Ron. Funny, I assumed the performance gains would be seen in the wedges. I game the Pro V1X when I can and I typically stock up when they go on sale (usually around the holidays)- takes the sting out of paying full retail.
This is SO SIMPLE AND an EASY ANSWER!!!
Any player at ANY LEVEL---- can play whatever BALL THEY WANT--- PERIOD!!
They should not be PERSUADED or talked down to about what about their choice of ball( based on skill level!) EDUCATING without JUDGING is the PROBLEM, just GIVE the FACTUAL INFO( that is hard for golf companies and REVIEWERS to DO -- honesty, not marketing, not HYPE!)!!!!
It is a GOOD thing that players of ALL LEVELS --TRY -- different kinds of golf balls! They WILL LEARN -- through their OWN experimenting --- what works best for them!!!
I can remember when I first learned to play, I could NOT FEEL the difference between golf balls; after practicing more and MORE TIME-- I began to get different sleeves from different balls, as I grew more comfortable with my set of clubs --- THEN I could feel the difference!!
It was TIME and FEEL for MY CLUBS---- NOT the LEVEL I played at!!!!!
YOUR JOB---- is JUST--- FACTUAL, NO HYPE --- TRUTH about how the ball feels and flies!!!
YOUR education is very helpful ( when done RIGHT!) with the CAVEAT----- ALL players will have a DIFFERENT FEEL for the ball !!!!
Just keep it REAL guys, just the facts, NOT what the golf companies WANT to have INFLUENCE over!!!
More impressed how well his drives still are going in comparison to former drive vs shaft changed drive.
Great to see Ronnie back. Hope you are all keeping well.
MORE RONNIE TESTS !!!
I just struggle to get past how clicky the firmer balls are. I currently play the Tour B XS, i just love how it fees across the bag.
Thanks again for a great video guys. Much love from Australia.
You guys need to review the Wilson Duo Professional golf ball. It's a high end ball with a low 60 compression. Straighter off the tee and spins more around the green than Prov1's.
I think they did review it on a multi ball review a while ago? Maybe with the project A TM ball. I think. Do you play with it? And do you recommend it?
Also, what's your driver club head speed / driver distance? I'm thinking of using the duo myself. I do like soft balls! 😂. I use supersoft and love the feel. Especially with putting and chipping.
Thank you for this. Examining how a 90/95 ss delivery can be affected by all the options that are available is useful for many. And, Ronnie, wow man, your swing is coming along beautifully.
Ian and Matt I see a few dissenters out there thinking you guys are advertising Titleist. One thing I noticed was Ronnie swinging harder at the 1X . I play both Titleist and Bridgestone, the V1 and V1X feel like bricks so it's Bridgestone for me as they are pretty much identical in performance. Keep up the good work guys the ball testing is great as that's the one part of your game that you can chop and change much more easily cheers.
Loves these videos with Ronnie. So practical for the average player. Thanks.
Looking forward to this one , as a 13 hcap player my ball of choice has been for the last 3 years the Bridgestone B RXS ball, I think it a brilliant ball , very consistent in feel and distance and good spin and £££ :) so underrated brand and ball 😀. Go matty and Ian and RONNIE The rocket 🚀 the average golfer super tester.
I'd suggest you to look at Srixon's too. I've used Titleist's and Bridgestone's in the past, but ever since i tried Srixon Z-Star, it has been my go to. The price isn't bad either.
Great to see 🚀 Ronnie back on the channel and looking fit & healthy👍
I am a 13.1 handicap, did a similar test last year. Flight scoped and played comparative practice rounds with all the balls in the recommended range for my handicap and above.
There were a few odd cases where I performed very well with a super low compression, slow swing speed ball: Wilson 50 Elite was one. But after time putting, chipping, pitching, sand, irons, and woods. Of the balls I tested I found the same thing. The "Tour Ball" ... Srixon Z-Star XV did what fit my game MORE than anything else.
The firmer balls had far more forgiveness and less variance in my long play and spun more in my short game by a large amount (mostly due to the higher quality cover materials). The tour balls also performed better in poor conditions like wet, damp, windy, etc. (Except cold, the lower-compression tour balls like Pro V1, Z-Star and Chrome Soft were better on distance in colder weather).
The point of this novel is, watch the vids then do your own testing and make sure to remember that HOW YOU PLAY is important, WHAT YOU WANT FROM YOUR GAME is important. Not what's on the box.
Been playing 2 years. No ball will do it for me, but working my butt off to get to a 10 handicap this year.
I love your shows! so happy to have found you guys. this show hit home for me as i just finished a wide range ball test myself. BRX, ProV1x and also e12 Speed and Soft.
My index is 7.2 and I've been playing for 47 years - just turned 57. Muscling the ball getting much harder ;)
I live in Seattle where golf temps range from low 40's to 80's. But, normal golf temp is upper 50's to low 60's. I wanted to know what distance I was leaving on the table, if any, with V1x. My personal tests were outdoors on the course in temps from 42F to 54F.
The results were clear. e12 Soft and Speed were 20+ yards longer than BRX and 30 longer than V1x. Stopping a ball in this region is never an issue so spin would only worry me 5% of the rounds.
I took this same test to La Quinta in 70-75 degree temps. Results were different. Now the Speed/Soft only minimally out distanced BRX and V1x. But, again the V1x came up at about 10 yards shorter w/ driver and about a half club on mid-long irons.
In my tests it was clear that the spin of the V1x was higher. Less roll on drives, irons pulled back.
Price would be King between BRX and V1x. And if it's outdoors and cool the softer balls clearly beat the tour balls.
I'd be so interested to see you guys have Matt put this type of ball comparison test together.
Again you guys are smashingly fun and helpful to watch - keep it go'n!
I'm a golfer who prefers the feel of a soft golf ball. If I was deciding between the balls, I probable would go with the softer feeling Bridgestone since the distance drop off is marginal with the driver. Side by side, with a putter, I suspect the Bridgestone will feel miles softer than the Pro V1x.
That's where I'm at. I'm a 5 handicap with a little more speed than Ronnie but not much. Shortish hitter still. I played the Pro V1x for a year and loved the performance but didn't love the hard feel, although I got used to it. Went to the RXs last year and much prefer the softer feel. I still think the V1x spins a little more on irons and full wedges for me but after seeing this video, I'm not sure the trade off in feel is worth it to switch from the RXs now.
Looks like we'll have to find a new tester soon. Ronnie will be a scratch players after this season from what I'm seeing with his improved ballstriking. Great to see Ronnie again.
That is exactly why I only play the “premium” balls out of those that I find.
That was funny!
yeh, more bang for their buck !
my gripe with this is he always hit the bridgestone first by the time he got to his 6th shot with the prov1x he had a better feel for the shot. His swing was more consistent for those last three shots with the prov1x where he had the swing feel.
Ronnie and I are of similar age and swing speed and I have always been playing ProV1x. Especially since the MyGolfSpy test. I've been pretty much a Titleist guy since the '60's.
Looking forward to this one. I've always wondered if the compression of a golf ball really mattered to the average swing speed player. Thank you TXG!
Try the Wilson Duo Professional golf bell. It has a lower compression rate of 60. Plays great at lower swing speeds and actually spins better around the greens than the Prov1.
@@poker4400 you have a video link? I played the old duo. I liked it. I’d like to see spin numbers.
@@stevencarrier5060 I don't but I played them all year last year. My golf partner for league plays the Prov1's. At his swing speed he compresses them just fine. He hits PW 155 with blades. Even he admitted they spin less off the tee with driver and more on chip shots around the green. He now uses them in cold weather when he can't compress the Prov1's. They are a three piece ball with a urethane cover. Just as durable as a proV1 yet only a 60 compression. My driver is a lot straighter when hitting these balls, because I can compresses them.
@@stevencarrier5060 owe and I'm a 3 handicap in my golf league. Trust me The Wilson Duo Professional is a legitimate golf ball. That's $10 to $15 less per dozen than Prov1's.
@@poker4400 do you feel like you lose anything with it? Short or long game?
Would be great to see you test the Bridgestone “R” balls vs the tour b x and tour b xs to see if the Bridgestone marketing is right on them fitting different swing speeds or if everyone should play the former balls.
I hope the boys dial up 🚀 Ronnie for post comments on this one. Set your Reminders Let’s Go! 👍
Ronnie is a Legend... What a great camera presence!
Ronnie's back! It's a good day. And swinging great.
Love this test. I would love as much average-speed testing as you can do, as these numbers are pretty close to mine. Bridgestone did extremely well in the 85 mph categories in both the MGS and the Today's Golfer ball tests, as I recall - in driving and mid-irons. The B-RX in particular.
For the price difference why would you choose titliest ? 2 yrds for 20 quid extra 😂🙈 no thanks , consistency was marginal
In the US it’s only a $3.00 difference. For that, I’d say it’s worth it.
I thought it was only about a $5 difference, Bridgestone is $45 and Titleist is $50.
How about Snell which depending on qty you can get for either $31 or $26 if you buy 5 doz
I use Vice Pros and they are great
I think the point of the video, although they didn't spell it out very well, was that it doesn't make sense for lower swing speed players to play a low compression golf ball, regardless of brand. They could have done the same test with a Srixon Z-star or any other tour level ball and found similar results.
I love to play the ProV1...nothing feels like them putting and around the greens. They also sound and feel great off the club face from wedges to driver. Thanks Ronnie and the guys for the videos!
And that's the point. You found your ball. Play it. I hate that ball because I loose more prov1's and x than any other ball. At four bucks a ball my 12 handicap isn't worth it.
@@aliensarereal7832 yea, I have since gone to the Costco Kirkland ball. WAY less expensive and I am with you...at my handicap they are not worth the money.
@@markk171 Have you tried the Vice pro and the pro plus. I spent about 500 bucks this year testing most of the balls out there for the fun of it and that is the one ball that caught my attention the most. Still pricey at $30 a dozen but I buy mine mint for half the price.
@@aliensarereal7832 Yep tried the Vice, a bunch of Callaway, TaylorMade...but for me...the Costco Kirkland performed as well as any and at $25 for 2 dozen balls...what a deal!
@@markk171 Good choice. I buy those mint also for 75 cents to a buck. I really like those also. The fact that you play a kirkland after playing a pro v1 shows that your intelligent. You probably have a really good game. Thanks for responding.
love the stuff you guys post out but this really surprised me. The conviction that he should use that ball was amazing....any very slight gain that could be seen on the GC quad could easily be lost from any issues he may find around the greens with lack of response or feeling from a prov1x. I watched you guys compare shafts/clubs with much better gains that you advise are marginal and could use either club based on strike....love the idea though , would love to see some more comparisons for slower swings
Would love to see you delve into more detail in the short game area. 5 yard chip, pitch over bunker, pin at the back of the green, pin at the front of the green etc. Great video as always!
Great idea! Been trying to get my buddy to drop the entry level balls and move into a premium ball. Would like to see you compare a low end/entry level ball (top flight xl distance, taylormade distance +, etc) to a premium ball.
As a mid-high handicap I was playing a Wilson dou soft, which I love when it comes to putting. Switched last year to a Srixon Z star. Would be interesting to see what kinda numbers Ronnie would get with the dou soft versus a premium ball.
I've only been playing golf for a year (20-25 index now), but today I played the Pro V1x for the first time, and I just SMASHED my drives. I carried 270 average while I usually carry 250. I had the wind with me but still... I totally felt I earned distances. I earned distance on every single drives, on every holes (even when the wind calmed down). My first drive on the first hole might even have been a 280 carry (the wind helped me a bit). Ball was so long I thought it wasn't mine. I was TOTALLY impress (and so were the golfers playing with me, low handicapper seniors). And I usually play Pro V1's (or mid-range balls like Srixon AD333). But the Pro V1x felt like a bomb off the tee. I ordered a dozen right when I got back home. And to be honest I always thought balls tech is some kind of bullshit, but I have to admit that I am now a believer.
I update my comment to tell that I just made my first 300 yards drive (total distance) on the course last week, it was actually a 305 yards drive, and with no wind. (I have one year of golf). And it was perfectly straight !
Ironicaly the ball was a Pro V1. (not the X version). But I still prefer the Pro V1x for the higher launch and the firmer feel.
Think I’ll stick to my Bridgestone golf balls. Hate loosing Pro V1’s cause of how much they cost. We got a lot of trees on the course I play here in Nebraska. Still enjoying the videos 👍👍👍.
With these numbers and from what I’ve heard about the soft feel around the green with the Bridgestone B RX I think I would lean towards the Bridgestone. Just my opinion
Love your guys' technical look at the game of golf. Excellent video.
Very interesting.... I play the RXS because I love a very soft feeling ball and have played the soft Bridgestone ball for 10 years. Looks like I should do some ball testing to see of I can get more speed but also have a soft feel.
To give you an idea of how I love a soft feel with my wedges and putting, I love the feel of the Wilson low compressing balls with my wedges, they feel fantastic. I don't play them as they do not suit my long game with a driver speed of abiut 102 mph.
Who doesn’t love a video with Ronnie! Well done chaps.
It was the Titleist tour soft that I used to get my first hole in one November 2020
The results demonstrate that there is very little difference between the balls; a great deal more importance must be attributed to the consistency of a club player’s swing.
It’s difficult to agree with the conclusion as I think club head speed and strike might have played a big role is the extra speed gained from ProV X
He was swinging 1.5 mph faster when hitting prov 1x (with Driver) which it turn should give him more ball speed...Not worth the money difference for me.
this is not necessarily true. It comes down to compression off the face. If a long driver hits a ball with something like a 70 compression ball his ball speeds will be down because the ball sits on the face longer and doesn't transfer the energy as efficiently. This is exactly why long drivers hit 110 compression balls so it spends the optimal amount of time on the face and efficiently transfers energy. This is also why range balls are usually around 70 compression.
I bet he could hit a yellow ball 1/16th of an inch further. Maybe he should get tested for colors.
Swing is looking good Ronnie!! Keep up the improvement!! Great test Ian and Matt!!
Thanks for bringing Jackie back for us! Great video as these are the irons im going to test this season as well.
I did an on course assessment between ProV1x and B-Rxs. My results were similar to this video. There were no consistent differences in the performance on any club. The great majority of shots were within 1-3 yards with both balls. However, when I did pure the shot, the ProV1x did travel further. I like the feel of ProV1x in short game and putting. That was the difference maker for me. I stuck with the ProV1x.
New to this post, but prior to your conclusions ... I came away thinking the B-RXS was the ball for your student, I believe it to be worth a try. Thankyou for the comparison.
Gotta be an Autoflex test with Ronnie!
Looks like Ronnie has “upped” his game! Swing looks much more dynamic and repeatable.
The Bridgestone is still a premium ball. Need Ronnie to test the Pro-V vs a Srixon Q-Star Tour or Tour Response etc. Is there performance improvement/loss for the significant price difference.
This is a great low-compression vs. high-compression ball test for a mid-handicapper but I think it might be a bit misleading to call it a "tour" ball vs. "non-tour" ball test. While the Tour B RXS is decidedly not a tour ball (they even say this), it is priced like it is at $44.99/dozen. At that price point, there is no meaningful reason to use the Bridgestone over the ProV1x. Wouldn't it be more appropriate, then, to compare Pro V1x to, say, something like a Titleist Tour Speed or Taylormade Project (a)? Or even something cheaper like a Vice or direct-to-consumer? In other words, most mid- to high-handicappers I know don't play ProV's because of the price, not because they don't think it's better. Great video regardless.
I gamed the Snell MTB Red a few years ago and it was firm but so consistent for me. The low launch / high spin around the greens gave me so much more control. I just bought some Mizuno RB Tour X and I'm excited to see how I get on with them. My driver speed is around 100mph.
Hi Guys,
Love the wide range of content you produce. Would be cool if you completed a video on the effects of different levels of golf ball wear. For example, unblemished vs. one set of groove marks vs. a whole round's worth of groove marks vs. cart path scuff, etc. There is a lot of info out there on aerodynamics and effects of dimples, but I can't find anything that compares ball flights, spin rates, carry distances, etc. over different levels of golf ball wear.
Keep doing good things 👍
Thanks for your great in depth content. What about a say 2 handicap golfer. I get lots of spin with wedges, sometimes too much. Steep swing. Question is what Tour type ball should I play. GOAL. Accuracy off the tee and feel around the green. Almost feel Pro V1 has too much spin. Is a Chrome Soft a better option ? Or is a higher spinning ball better off the tee for accuracy ? I never know if I must play the X or not. Please help ? Or do I play a ball that spins a little less ?
The TM Tour Response tested (spin and distance) just as well as the TM TP5 & TP5x in TXGs Apr 11, 2020 testing, It's considerably less expensive than Pro Vs and TP5s. They also stated that players with lower swing speeds would probably benefit from the Tour Response. Both the Pro Vs and TPs are way too high compression for us average swing speed players to maximize distance. I personally lose 5-7 yards with mid irons and drivers using high compression balls.
50 yard shots Ronnie looks really good, where can we rent him for scramble tournaments? HA!
So consistent!
The spin dispersion on his 7 iron was far better with the Bridgestone and he was swinging a bit faster with his driver when hitting the ProV1 so it is hard for me to see how it would be worth the extra dollars for what was basically a toss-up.
I’ve tried the Bridgestone and it’s a great ball. But I do play a Pro V1x. I do notice it’s hotter off the driver than the Bridgestone. Just got a box of the new Pro V1x’s can’t wait to try them this coming weekend.
colour me confused... if efficiency was the same (on driver) at 1.46 the increase in ball speed on the pro v1x must surely be down to the club head speed being 1.2mph faster (i.e 86.9 vs 85.7)
Was wondering the same
Yep. Ian doesn't address this.
It is his efficiency from his “best drive with pro v1x” in that particular frame, he might have actually had a higher efficiency with the pro v1 x as an average and just had one swing where his club speed jumped.
Granted, I agree it’s a little fishy. Most people would see this and think the Bridgestone is pretty good for the money
No offense to the boys but all these golf review channels could use some basic statistics courses. If you equate the swing speeds of the two balls (Ronnie swung harder at the ProV) the higher launch and lower spin of the Bridgestone would actually give him a few extra yards of distance at that swing speed. Lower spin off the driver will play a bit better into the wind and the higher launch will benefit more with the wind.
@@johnnypenso9574 the hardest thing about these is they don't show real world results. One of The main factors in flight is dimple patterns which you can't test in a simulator, not that there really is a great way to test that anyways unless you have some sort of wind tunnel or something. Slightly more spin can very easily come from strike location or club face angle as much as it can from type of ball. Basically most balls in the same category tend to perform so closely on simulator testing.
Great video..any chance you guys can do the same test with a high handicap player like myself..20+
a $4,000 dollar pair of shoes with good spikes can get you at least .5 cm gain in distance for all clubs. So, it's worth it for the high, mid, low handicapper.
Great show. Ronnie almost exact numbers as me. But I prefer Snell Black or Pro V1... just feel vs Snell MTB-X or Pro-V1x. And I can play any of them...
How would the Bridgestone Tour BX golf ball compare to the 2021 Titleist Pro V1 for a mid handicap golfer? This would be a test I would be greatly interested in if you can make it happen one day. Thank you & keep up the good work.
Love to see Ronnie test the new drivers for speed and forgiveness
Interesting you said that, Ian indicated we need to test new clubs to see if I can pick up some much needed speed while maintaining the forgiveness I get from the PingG410 Plus
@@rp6163 it would be good to see if these new clubs do indeed increase speed for the average golfer, given we are the target audience, plus the forgiveness, 20 yards further in the trees isn’t worth the investment 😜
Great information. Love to see guys like this on the channel.
So looks like we are in new ball testing season? How about taking a look at the OnCore balls? They've got a few different offerings and its been awhile since anyone has even mentioned the brand let alone tested the newer Tour ball they offer.
There is no way with this test you can say that the Pro v1 is definitely better. At best there was a 2yd difference which isn’t enough to say that it’s gonna be consistently longer. All shots outside the driver were neck and neck on distance with the driver being 2yd difference. Not to mention spin is more consistent with Bridgestone on longer shots. I don’t game either ball but your conclusions here make no sense. (Ps love the channel so keep the vids coming.)
Their ' conclusions make sense ' ..... if they get kickbacks from Titleist 😂
Currently play the B-RXS shifted from Pro-V1. Toying with AVX, like the feel and lower ball flight in the wind plus a little more distance with mid irons. Spins fine around the greens on soft U.K. courses.
I went from a V1 to the V1x because of the increased spin with irons and wedges into a green. The AVX is great off the driver, but for me where i play in Australia the ball doesn't spin enough around the greens (unless you like to bump and run everything) to be usable. The Price here between RXS and ProV1x is $74 vs $80 AUD a dozen ($18 vs $21 for a sleeve) not a huge amount in the scheme of things. Good to see Ronnie back!
Can’t wait to show this to my dad to try and help his game just for him to ignore all data and base everything on what feels right in his head.
The problem is that data is only part of the game right. If we like a set of balls or clubs, we might just swing better because we trust it more. So if your dad just feels the ball the right I guess it is better to stick with that. For example, Miura's fitting facility still uses not data at all, not saying that fits everyone but people just have a different preferences.
I'm heavily considering the i230s. Thanks for the vid
Would love to see this with the Srixon AD333. So called best selling ball in the UK
Same here, it is by far the best ball for $20.
Whoa - Ronnie is a machine - well done
What about mis-hits? Which slice/hook more? What’s the most forgiving ball for mid handicaper?
Ronnie swinging it awesome. Great to see ⛳️
RXS slightly better on wedges, Pro V1X slightly better on 7 iron. I think RXS wins on driver due to lower spin and higher launch for slower swing speeds. VERY disappointed that you showed bias in declaring Pro V1X the clear winner.
Curious why the comparison between the RXS (high spin for the model) versus V1x (low spin for the model?
I’d like to see the comparison of these vs an e6 or e12 as well. Just to get an idea. I struggle with the same bc I like the ProV1 with the irons and wedges/putter, but feel like I need the extra distance with the e6.
Nowhere on the Titleist website or in their official training do they ever talk about clubhead speed being a factor on what ball you play. Their reasoning is that a golfer uses a wide variety of swing speeds during a round.
The only test missing is the putting…feeling wise the difference is day/night between these two balls. But it remains both excellent choices. Saw the comparable elsewhere on RUclips with B RXS vs B RX and B RXS was a clear winner on each vectors despite a low compression and soft feeling vs a 79 compression for B RX
Excited for this one!
Other than $20+ price difference. Those Bridgestone balls are on amazon for 22-28$ a dozen all the time, they vary from week to week but just and buy bulk when they go low.
I see them on Amazon for $44-48 have they gone up in price
I wouldn't necessarily agree with results it really all depends on feel off the club around greens and especially putting ... There was very little between them on the stats ...
i play the Bridgetown RXS, so very much looking forward to this one...
I started playing the RXS last year and notice alot of guys playing the Tour B range. Might have to relent and give the ProV1x a try
That’s a valid conclusion for Ronnie, but I found when I am not striking it consistently, ProV1(x) varies just a bit too much because of higher spin when hit a groove or two too low and fall out the air versus the ball I am now playing BRX......I am. Titleist Prov1(x) fan but it needs consistent strike to get the best for me and I ain’t there with the amount I am playing....
The prov1 felt like a rock to me. Especially on partial wedges and with my putter. It also costs more than the bridgestone.
I know this was for Ronnie, but I’d like to see the difference in different price pint balls. Like the e12 from Bridgestone. There only a couple dollar difference from the b-rxs and pro V1. I guess I was just expecting a different video when comparing a “tour ball” to a lesser ball
I am playing the Wilson Duo soft I am a 14 handicap. Once in a while I will play a Pro-V-1 or a TP-5. Just my personal game I do not feel much of a difference and my scores are not coming down. Play the ball you like and you feel you get the most out of.