Kardur Doomscourge vs Krenko vs Kestia vs Sigarda EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

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Комментарии • 89

  • @Tehnameless1
    @Tehnameless1 2 года назад +67

    Oct-oct-octopus umbra-ah-ah

  • @fel293
    @fel293 2 года назад +155

    Ah yes the good old Muxus into 1 goblin and the ringleader into 0.
    In a tribal deck.
    With 0 other goblins in hand.
    You gotta love commander

    • @kristopherwatts9466
      @kristopherwatts9466 2 года назад +17

      Reminds me of my Krenko deck.. half the time I wonder if it's a goblinless goblin deck 🙃

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  2 года назад +60

      The PINNACLE of goblin action.

    • @Stinkoman1001
      @Stinkoman1001 2 года назад +11

      wouldn't be a goblin deck if they did what you expected them to do haha

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  2 года назад +4

      @@Stinkoman1001 100% this

  • @phyrexian_dude4645
    @phyrexian_dude4645 2 года назад +37

    11:52 The return of *OCTOPUS UMBRA*

    • @mktaters310
      @mktaters310 2 года назад +1

      I was playing a game and heard that in the background... needless to say i was scared twice

  • @ivernedit
    @ivernedit 2 года назад +52

    The difference between goad and doomskurges etb is that any creature played after he enters during the next turn will be forced to stack as well if possible.

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  2 года назад +6

      Yep!

    • @corhydrae3238
      @corhydrae3238 2 года назад +12

      Technically, Kardur's ability could still be worded with goad.
      "When Kardur, Doomscourge enters the battlefield, until your next turn, creatures your opponents control are goaded."

    • @ivernedit
      @ivernedit 2 года назад +1

      @@corhydrae3238 yeah he could if they wanted to go that way.

  • @RYshinanigansAN
    @RYshinanigansAN 2 года назад +11

    I love how everyone's waking up to kardur, been playing him with a goblin sub theme since he dropped. Always fun games

  • @chizman1112
    @chizman1112 2 года назад +12

    Good morning Goblin Gang!

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar 2 года назад +9

    Kardur's ability is better than goading because it affects creatures that weren't on the battlefield when it resolved.

  • @Omnicrom
    @Omnicrom 2 года назад +22

    Varchild's War Riders actually used to work like you thought, but it was the M10 Rules change (I think) that altered it. Basically, the owner of a token changed from the owner of the effect that made the token, to whoever it came into play under the control of. This means you can no longer Homeward Path Varchild's.

    • @poiri
      @poiri 2 года назад +2

      The owner is not always the one whose control the token enters under, it is the one that is stated to create the token, which in Varchild’s oracle text is the opponent. There are some effects that cause tokens to enter under the control of someone other than its owner, but those are rare and quite fringe.
      TL;DR you’re correct about the card but not quite on the ruling. Unless I’m just wrong which I guess could be the case.

    • @fel_95
      @fel_95 2 года назад

      They did because Zedruu with token generators would've been stupid broken

  • @ColorfulHelices
    @ColorfulHelices 2 года назад +9

    "Alex takes two to the vortex" really made me start watching the game when I heard "two to the Cortex"

  • @BigB0790
    @BigB0790 2 года назад +7

    The enchantment precon is the product that got me into MTG so its cool to see it in action and hold its own against other decks!

  • @CurlyHeadGod
    @CurlyHeadGod 2 года назад +7

    Great game! Alex went 100% under the radar. To be honest, I had to force myself really hard to not smug like a mono blue player when David casted Rout.

  • @stevenlorenzo7399
    @stevenlorenzo7399 2 года назад +31

    I love my Kardur deck, but it really angers your opponents when you force them to do things they may not want to do, and when it’s down to 1v1, you better have an answer. I’ve come in second so many times when I play Kardur.

    • @JeremyAntley
      @JeremyAntley 2 года назад +6

      I have a Kardur deck and 100% agree it can be easy to knock out two opponents, but getting the last one down can be challenging. I find I have to aggressively target the player I know will be the hardest to knock out 1v1 first, or play spells like Mercadia’s Downfall to ‘surprise’ pump attackers (yours or an opponents) to take down threats.

    • @polzinaj
      @polzinaj 2 года назад +2

      @@JeremyAntley Thanks for introducing Mercadia's Downfall to me. Any other spicy picks you like to play in your Kardur? Got a list to share? :)

    • @burmabaines
      @burmabaines 2 года назад +1

      @@polzinaj I'm getting a Marisi deck together atm which has the same problem. Stuffy Doll might be a good include.

    • @HalcyonVentures
      @HalcyonVentures 2 года назад

      This is the reason I prefer Thantis the War Weaver for my forced-combat deck, not least of which green gives you access to loads of creatures with Vigilance. There's the Rakdos goad stuff in there (Karazikar, Kardur etc) to force people to attack each other, but on the turns where they're not goaded and turn towards you, you've still got some decent defences up.

    • @polzinaj
      @polzinaj 2 года назад

      Do you try to blink Kardur over and over? To me this is a losing proposition because you’re not spending time developing your board if you do this. And yes, it generates unnecessary heat in a multiplayer format.
      I have won many games now with Kardur and the key is to use him sparingly.

  • @noahruffin1285
    @noahruffin1285 2 года назад +3

    The Octopus Umbra through me off so bad i thought some spiked my drink

  • @kanvaros4451
    @kanvaros4451 2 года назад +1

    KRENKO! After all these centuries , the Krenko was teased and finally released

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar 2 года назад +2

    Varchild's War Riders's current Oracle text says "Have an opponent create a 1/1 red Survivor creature token." Since the opponents are the ones creating the tokens, they own them. Homeward Path has no effect on them.

  • @primeascendant797
    @primeascendant797 2 года назад

    The video narration is excellent. I enjoy the fact you focus on gameplay rather than "you-had-to-be-there" social interaction. Social interaction is of course important for commander when you're in-person, but I'd rather see deck interaction as a viewer. Definitely helps with deciding on new and interesting commanders! I was on the fence about the demon berserker, but this video really showed his appeal.

  • @briebaggaley6801
    @briebaggaley6801 2 года назад +2

    I was so excited to see that Kardur deck!! That Flamerush Rider was SICK tech!!!
    This whole game was awesome, and then I audibly laughed from the "Oc(Oc)to(to)pus(pus) Um(um)bra(bra)"

  • @judsonbates1359
    @judsonbates1359 2 года назад +3

    More Kardur!! Such a cool deck.

  • @GoldenNovaYugioh
    @GoldenNovaYugioh 2 года назад +1

    That Time Thief mat got me like 👀

  • @benjamintrottier2855
    @benjamintrottier2855 2 года назад

    Welcome to the format Alex

  • @Maw_thuugn
    @Maw_thuugn 2 года назад +3

    Would love to see that Kardur list. Iv been digging and digging looking for spells for it

  • @isa660
    @isa660 2 года назад

    I just gotta say that was a perfectly timed Bruna. I don't know if he was intentionally waiting for the right moment or if he just drew it but as soon as I saw him drop it I knew the game was his, seeing as a boardwipe was just shot and the Kardur player was almost hellbent.

  • @marceloquejinho
    @marceloquejinho 2 года назад +2

    David didn't get the memo to bring a commander whose name starts with K 😆😆

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar 2 года назад +3

    The Kardur copy also should have triggered off its own death. Kardur doesn't say "another attacking creature".

  • @AidanWR
    @AidanWR 2 года назад +2

    Ah, the return of the O C T O P U S U M B R A

  • @davidhenriques6372
    @davidhenriques6372 2 года назад

    That winning swing. You. Love. To. See. It.

  • @BloodLegaZ
    @BloodLegaZ 2 года назад

    Seeing bruna with the bestow creatures made me think we need a bestow commander that can do that with other bestow creatures and bring them back from the graveyard when she attacks, that would be really sweet and powerful.

  • @afspeellijstnaruto
    @afspeellijstnaruto 2 года назад +1

    Kardur is fun. I still wanna make some sort of goad deck with either kardur or marisi.

  • @TheAzureMustang
    @TheAzureMustang 2 года назад

    That was a really fun game. It reminded me of my early days of magic before all the combos lol

  • @radicalpalomino
    @radicalpalomino 2 года назад

    I need me that Kardur decklist haha looks like a lot of fun

  • @judsonbates1359
    @judsonbates1359 2 года назад +1

    Please post the Kardur decklist!

  • @MrGrimord
    @MrGrimord 2 года назад

    Great game from the new EDH player! I really enjoy my Kestia deck, it's always a blast. Its just lame that there isnt many great aura cards.

  • @angelvalera1997
    @angelvalera1997 2 года назад

    I love the danse macabre song :D

  • @MageSkeleton
    @MageSkeleton 2 года назад

    fun fact, Kardur, Doomscourge's effect is only for the round he ETB's. Subsequent rounds can go at his face.

  • @MTG_Brewzl
    @MTG_Brewzl 2 года назад +1

    I really want to see zurzoth on your Channel.

  • @haramba506
    @haramba506 2 года назад +1

    Literally only here for goblin and Kardur.

  • @zimoy.701
    @zimoy.701 2 года назад

    Kardur almost always kingmakes - you get some blink shenenigans going so opponents beat each other up but then you can't beat the last player once everyone else is dead.

  • @StrawHatHogs
    @StrawHatHogs 2 года назад

    The myth, the legend, Octopus Umbra.

  • @sunutopia
    @sunutopia 2 года назад +1

    Alex I want your playmat.

  • @tyrannuslapis5107
    @tyrannuslapis5107 2 года назад +1

    I love kardur. I tried building it too, but it usually plays out just like in this game. Once you only have 1 opponent left, you're usually dead on board from feeding them creatures.
    Unless you have insurrection in hand.

  • @NubRusty
    @NubRusty 2 года назад +1

    Kardur is so friggin good. I run him in the 99 of my Chainer deck

  • @happybrain2674
    @happybrain2674 2 года назад +1

    im aktually trying kestia as a enchantress+landfall deck, cause i wanna draw cards whatever i play xD
    btw i gona copy some of the cards! gg and nice game!

  • @Vektor480
    @Vektor480 2 года назад

    Yeeeees Krenko time!

  • @Zoldorn_
    @Zoldorn_ 2 года назад

    why did you not bring krenko out earlier?

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar 2 года назад +1

    I wish Bruna's reanimation was an ETB... sadly, it's a cast trigger. :(

    • @MTGMuddstah
      @MTGMuddstah  2 года назад

      That's a narration whoops on my part, sorry.

  • @malachifreedman3975
    @malachifreedman3975 2 года назад

    At 11:36 why doesnt alex just blink the estrids invocation and have it come back as another eidolon of blossoms to draw 2 cards, and get rid of the goad?

  • @VillainousVillainessViridi
    @VillainousVillainessViridi 2 года назад

    I love Alex's playmat! What's it from?

  • @mramisuzuki6962
    @mramisuzuki6962 2 года назад +1

    Time to rename this channel MTGBruna

  • @ivernedit
    @ivernedit 2 года назад +1

    I want Alex’s playmat

  • @gabrielcoelho2471
    @gabrielcoelho2471 2 года назад

    Great game Andrew. Any luck finding jarad ?

  • @pedrobrito2158
    @pedrobrito2158 2 года назад

    Any chance we get that Kardur list? Thanks

  • @josemaravilla6955
    @josemaravilla6955 2 года назад

    It's time!

  • @gaigecata6666
    @gaigecata6666 2 года назад

    This game only reinforced how much I dislike playing against krenko decks

  • @fiddlestyxify
    @fiddlestyxify 2 года назад

    ~~OCTOPUS UMBRA~~

  • @coltonreed2107
    @coltonreed2107 2 года назад

    Da goblin deck with no goblins

  • @pandakai6422
    @pandakai6422 Месяц назад

    Kevin should not have dropped to 13, his copy of commander was still in effect

  • @sintwelve
    @sintwelve 2 года назад +1

    Oh kardur you silly demon you

  • @plain6677
    @plain6677 2 года назад

    Love this game, despite the Rout timing. Great win also

  • @Legend0fBarry
    @Legend0fBarry 2 года назад

    Ö̵̭̣̗͕̦͉͙̭̈́̾͜͠C̴͎̺̯̮͚͍̙̭̠̗̘̎̈́͗͗͌̿̎͝ͅT̶̨͕͇͔̯͖͙͚̘̳͜͝Ó̸͖̮͒P̷͖̹̖̗̩͌͛͗̌̏͂̏̑̌̃̾͌͝͠͠ͅͅU̶̡̧͍̖͖̝̗͕̗̯͎͚͗̌͑́͗͜S̵̙̺͙̪̯̹̟̫͉͖̹͈͙̽̊̉̈́̄̅̔̚ ̷̧̱̜̖̫͇̹͔̟̱̥̞̬͆̒̈̾͑͐Ǘ̷̖͚̞͓̲̎̎̍̈̆̂̽̕̚M̴̘̤͈̞̳̰̾̒͑̓̃́̒͛̌͋́͜B̵͎̪̥͖̼̖̤͚̥̤̦̮̫͑̈̏̋̀͋̈́͊̆̀̐̀̅ͅR̷̨̿̋̆̈́̀̓̈̊͜A̶̢̛̭̤̼͚͇̩̬͎̲̥̗̰̪̠̓͒̈͐̌̑͋̿̿̚

  • @T4N7
    @T4N7 2 года назад

    ....Sigarda? Seriously couldn't keep the K theme going?

  • @DarkEinherjar
    @DarkEinherjar 2 года назад

    O C T O P U S U M B R A

  • @im_eroh
    @im_eroh 2 года назад

    Tuvasa is a lot better than kestia, her abilities seem mid but once it gets going, its kinda disgusting. I don't even play my tuvasa deck(which is just the precon) becuase it just wins games.

  • @terrellfranklyn2439
    @terrellfranklyn2439 2 года назад

    Second

  • @noahsharkey8794
    @noahsharkey8794 2 года назад

    First

  • @malekfradi5013
    @malekfradi5013 2 года назад

    Time Thiefs Stealing the game ;)

  • @Chuubii
    @Chuubii 2 года назад +1

    enchantress is the most boring edh archetype. Solitaire magic.

  • @ecthelion1517
    @ecthelion1517 Год назад

    I came here looking for insight into how Sigarda is built and played. Let's say I'm thoroughly disappointed lol.
    Not even sure what that deck was about but Voltron seems the most befitting for that commander.