Oh Alan, I think I am in love....in love with a motorhome, I never thought it possible. Please tell me it's available for the UK market. Is it suitable for winters in Scotland?🥰👍🖖🏴🏴🏴🌨❄❄❄☃️
Chris Purdy no, there’s no 650! There’s a 640 which has a double drop down bed, and the 630 which has two drop down singles (which are brilliant for those who don’t get up or go to bed at the same time). We have the 630.
Holly Palmer the 640 and 630 are 7m vans. The 650 (which there definitely is one, might have been new for 2020) is essentially a 6.4m version of the 640 :)
@@ChrisPurdy would love a defo answer to the 6.4 mtr van as this would be perfect size to get in our drive lol any help on this size please..thanks neil
Great van! Closet was the clincher! Almost felt like a small New York Apartment!! Better yet you get to drive it away!❤️😍💋 Some day the US market will see what y'all are doing. Even saw a van called the California made by VW recently that was delightful too! Thanks for the video!💋
I wish we had RV's like this in the US. It would fit in a normal parking spot and be great for one or two people to travel in. I'm sure if they sold it in the US they would make it cost two or three times the price too. I think the longer seat in the lounge might be long enough for a nap, but if the bed doesn't come too close to the table top it would be easy just to lower it for a lie down. If someone else was driving, I think I would just sleep in the front seat as that is probably the safest in an accident. I like this van a lot especially after I saw that there is still a good size garage. I have a couple folding bicycles and chairs that would fit in there.
Finally a European design I truly like. So small yet so much room. Because of the lack of pullouts on most motorhomes in Europe they should have more beds in the ceiling and less bedrooms, the space would be amazing.
Felicidades a Challenger. Es una autocaravana ideal, práctica,versátil y muy espaciosa. Sin duda, es la que nosotros compraríamos,es perfecta,lo tiene todo y con ese tamaño,también es aventurera 👍🏽👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Fantástica ❤️❤️❤️ Gracias.
Something like this would sell so well in the U.S. Everything you could need in this little home on wheels. Not sure why our manufacturers have not come up with something similar.
J. Thompson Me too! These UK versions are so light inside and these type of RV’s would sell like hot cakes in the US to retirees that finally have the time to travel! I wish I could talk my husband into buying something like this and us traveling all over the US. There are so many beautiful places here to see.
This looks very similar to a Rollerteam t line we hired a couple years back. Same basic layout with a garage. We loved the feeling of space and the large rear washroom space.
This is one of my favorites so far. I don't need that much storage so maybe a shorter version if there will be that. And skip the sofa on the passenger side for other use. I really will check out more of their coming motorhomes. Thank you Alan.
Oh that's a beautiful van and my favourite layout...and the price seems very reasonable!....but you forgot to explain the mystery of the plus or minus 6.4 meter length Alan!
I agree that this is a great van design Alan. Very usable space in a relatively short vehicle. All it needs is a oven and it would be perfect for U.K. market.
I just don't like the fact that this bed is electrical, because if there's a problem with the system in the middle of the trip, the passengers will have to sleep on the floor. The kitchen also needs a device to catch the steam of the food. On the hand I loved that the toilet and the shower are separate!
My wife would like that layout: a big wardrobe and space to move about and change clothes in the bathroom. I'm not sure that a separate shower cubicle is needed, but it could be useful to hang wet clothing. A drop-down bed seems such a space saver over a fixed bed, but is it possible to leave your bedding (a duvet) on it in the raised position? Not having to make up the bed every night would be a blessing.
GREAT VAN. I didn't see the bed down, but I would buy this van in a heart beat. QUESTIONS 1) DOES IT HAVE 4 WHEELS ON THE REAR AXLE 2) DO You have pictures with the bed down 3) is it a diesel engine, and what are the Horse Power and Torque numbers. Great Video
In order Michael. Only two wheels on rear axle, no picture with the bed down and I don't have the figures for the diesel engine off the top of my head but they can be easily found.
I like it it is beautiful enjoyable but I would like the lounge section to change into a bedroom at night instead of letting the bed down from the roof.
I love the extra space a drop down bed gives but... what happens when one of you wants to get up early and have breakfast? I don’t know any couples who wake up together and get out of bed together.
Most every year I go to my local TV show and the offerings are always the same.....bench seats, dining and sleeping for 6+, a huge bed and cramped as a result. Why can't an option be made for a solo camper or for couple and forget the notion of entertaining a flock of others?
It's a Burstner Ixeo 690G clone, it's a keen price but I think the Burstner has a far superior quality finish.......I love this layout though, it's a great use of space
Alan what's your open and honest opinion regarding a electric or even a pull down bed? So many people say stay away and stick to fixed ..im new to the motor home world ..thanks neil
Good point Neil. Hard question. I think most problems occur because people don't know how they work (like many things). However you should be forgiven for not knowing how it is supposed to work so I would avoid them if possible. If it breaks or something goes wrong, then you have to take it back to the dealer!
@@VanlifewithAlan thanks Alan spent the afternoon looking at the burstner range on you tube..we like a lot just the habitation door not on nearside which could make it difficult to open once on our drive ! But I guess it's something you overcome if you like something so much lol
If I ever wanted to downsize this us the sort of thing I’d go for. The only issue with these is you don’t always get a roof light and some I’ve been in I haven’t been able to stand up under the drop down bed. And of course you both have to go to bed at the same time.
Allan nobody can have a lie down when the vehicle is moving! Not only is it illegal, it's crazy stupid! Nice looking van, seem to have taken a leaf from the Chausson range. Are they the same group because that's a Chausson?
That was an attempt at humour Simon! Not only are they in the same group as Chausson anot not only are they made in the same factory but they are also made on the same line!
You didn't explain about the +/- 6.4m. Also, I'm pretty sure it would be illegal (at least in the UK) to sleep in the bed while someone's driving. No seatbelts in bed. I do like that layout though.
I think, and I might be wrong, and don't use this as your defence in court, but if one is lying down not in the direction of traffic then a seat belt is not compulsory. Maybe someone else can give a better legal opinion rather than my hearsay?
@@VanlifewithAlan I think lorry drivers can take a turn on the bunk with another driver at the wheel when double manning, not 100% sure if its the same or not for non hgvs. Nice van and good vid thanks Alan
@@VanlifewithAlan Well, regardless of what the law is, I wouldn't do it, you'd be flung around in the event of a crash, which is probably why people are not allowed to travel in a caravan being towed.
Did I miss the bed coming down. Did I miss how high/low the bed is in the down position? Did I miss how to get into bed if it is higher than 3 feet in the down position?
Love the layout and space but all these camper vans don't give a big enough kitchen area. Try washing a saucepan in that small sink it's hardly big enough for a dinner plate.
These short motorhomes with ceiling mounted beds are really good, the space is fantastic and the only space-cost appears to be a little more height. I wasn't a fan of ceiling beds but the shorter vans like this make a lot of sense with them. As for the PVC sector is it still only Globe Traveller that does this format of bed (ignoring the overpriced VW Beluga Whales) ?
Alan Heath I love the concepts of these mobile homes but I would have a big problem with the water and compost toilet - I shower and wash my hair every day and I have Crohn’s disease which means I’d be changing these toilets every day! 😢
if you're camping with 2 other couples, it's raining and you want to have dinner together? I know this sounds far-fetched, but it just happened to me about 5 weeks ago.
"Here's the bed switch. Ah, it's not connected, its a trade fair". Har har that is the fifth excuse I have heard from the trade for it not working. Either it is broken (which I think is most likely) or they have disconnected it. If they have disconnected it, that shows their lack of faith in it. Surely lots of videos and demonstrations would be happenning, and the manufacturer would be keen for people to see how it works. It should be made so it can be demonstrated and operated every ten minutes through the day, otherwise what is its life expectancy? Electric beds are £20,000 worth of trouble to anyone who buys them, I speak from experience. I am on personal email terms with the Project 2000 bed designer in Italy, I have the installation and workshop manual for them. Believe me you need it if you are going to buy an electric bed. Good luck!
In the manual, it says something like they are not to be operated more than two minutes every twenty. Imagine what would happen with the kids at an event like this. What would you have done at age eight? I don't blame them for disconnecting it!
@@VanlifewithAlan They could put a notice on it saying "Please ask the sales assistant for a demonstration of the bed". One major UK dealer told me "Leaving the bedding on the bed constitutes overloading it and invalidates the warranty. You must remove all your duvets, blankets, pillows before lifting the bed up"
Hi! I didn't know anyone could have a lie down while someone else is driving... 😲 I thought that was completely prohibited. Or is it different depending on every country? 🤔 Thank you.
I also think it is prohibited to have someone having a lie down while someone else is driving. These days everyone should use the seatbelt, even the dogs.
Why can't they make a totally solar light weight but rugged Class B and a half RV. If crap hits the fan it would be invaluable. I do not understand why batteries are not farther along than they are now. Is technology just being kept away from average people. Surely there's a battery that would last a long time, perhaps a lifetime.
Kay, as technology stands, that is impossible. Even covered in solar panels and in ideal conditions, a van this size would get no more than around 5km on a full day's 'charge'.
Oh Alan, I think I am in love....in love with a motorhome, I never thought it possible. Please tell me it's available for the UK market. Is it suitable for winters in Scotland?🥰👍🖖🏴🏴🏴🌨❄❄❄☃️
Challenger are sold as Chausson in the UK, That van is a Flash 520 Chausson
@@Nagsheadwarrior I believe the equivalent in the Chausson is the 650 (the 520 is basically the same but in a 6m length with less storage at the back)
Chris Purdy no, there’s no 650! There’s a 640 which has a double drop down bed, and the 630 which has two drop down singles (which are brilliant for those who don’t get up or go to bed at the same time). We have the 630.
Holly Palmer the 640 and 630 are 7m vans. The 650 (which there definitely is one, might have been new for 2020) is essentially a 6.4m version of the 640 :)
@@ChrisPurdy would love a defo answer to the 6.4 mtr van as this would be perfect size to get in our drive lol any help on this size please..thanks neil
Every inch of this thing is brilliantly engineered - what a great use of the space available!
I think that the shower would be more suited to the wider end of the bathroom. It seems like an upright coffin where it is located.
The Challenger 250 is a sure fire winner with a practical layout! A very nice motorhome.
Now this is a strong contender for what I'd like when I retire and take to living on the road.
Great van! Closet was the clincher! Almost felt like a small New York Apartment!! Better yet you get to drive it away!❤️😍💋
Some day the US market will see what y'all are doing. Even saw a van called the California made by VW recently that was delightful too! Thanks for the video!💋
I wish we had RV's like this in the US. It would fit in a normal parking spot and be great for one or two people to travel in. I'm sure if they sold it in the US they would make it cost two or three times the price too.
I think the longer seat in the lounge might be long enough for a nap, but if the bed doesn't come too close to the table top it would be easy just to lower it for a lie down. If someone else was driving, I think I would just sleep in the front seat as that is probably the safest in an accident. I like this van a lot especially after I saw that there is still a good size garage. I have a couple folding bicycles and chairs that would fit in there.
The USA is missing a big trick. The motorhome market is massive in the UK. Caravans, campers, all going crazy.
Way better than converted vans
it costs only 5.000$ to bring it in the Us, on a boat.
Finally a European design I truly like. So small yet so much room. Because of the lack of pullouts on most motorhomes in Europe they should have more beds in the ceiling and less bedrooms, the space would be amazing.
This one really interesting. The dinette also looks like a decent converted bed. Thanks Alan!
Felicidades a Challenger. Es una autocaravana ideal, práctica,versátil y muy espaciosa. Sin duda, es la que nosotros compraríamos,es perfecta,lo tiene todo y con ese tamaño,también es aventurera 👍🏽👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Fantástica ❤️❤️❤️ Gracias.
Gracias por haberlo visto Ana! Saludos desde Alemania!
Love this!! Wish US would come up with something like this...there has to be a market here.
Something like this would sell so well in the U.S. Everything you could need in this little home on wheels. Not sure why our manufacturers have not come up with something similar.
J. Thompson Me too! These UK versions are so light inside and these type of RV’s would sell like hot cakes in the US to retirees that finally have the time to travel! I wish I could talk my husband into buying something like this and us traveling all over the US. There are so many beautiful places here to see.
Very nice little rig! Perfect for a solo RVer 👍🏼👍🏼
I LOVE THIS CLOSET ... ITS A REAL WARDROBE TO CARY EAR AROUND CLOTHES AND COASTS JACKETS AND HOODIES !!! ... LOVE HAT SHOWER
I love this and would buy this in a heart beat if it was available in the US. Come on people, you're missing a huge market.
This is just perfect 👌🏻 love 💕 it wish the USA 🇺🇸 would learn to make a proper van or trailer
I love it. I want something like this in my country.
This is the best design motor home so far. The people are Challenger should train Americans how to build motor homes.
Loved the crack about hiding in the garage to get away from the police.
I do my best Robert!
Now it will be the first place they will look.
@@Duncaniowa17 But I never mention my secret hiding places!
This looks very similar to a Rollerteam t line we hired a couple years back. Same basic layout with a garage. We loved the feeling of space and the large rear washroom space.
This is one of my favorites so far. I don't need that much storage so maybe a shorter version if there will be that. And skip the sofa on the passenger side for other use. I really will check out more of their coming motorhomes. Thank you Alan.
Thanks for watching Yve!
thanks for sharing this with us I love this lay out and the space one of the best I have with you
I love this design and would have love to see the bed setup
I love it it's just right
Looks perfect for me 😉
That van is awesome! 👍
That's a very nice layout. A shame you couldn't see the bed though, the most important feature for me.
Wigamm RV from Italy lots of fantastic designs and here in the US now.
This is an ideal size for one person. Also, it's practical, but homey.
Oh that's a beautiful van and my favourite layout...and the price seems very reasonable!....but you forgot to explain the mystery of the plus or minus 6.4 meter length Alan!
Very nice.
Nice van!
Lets roll........
stumbled across this. this van seems to be good, for the price point. Leisure builds the best travel vans.
This is the layout I've been looking for, thank you.
Just seen on the website there are 4 belted seats too.
I agree that this is a great van design Alan. Very usable space in a relatively short vehicle. All it needs is a oven and it would be perfect for U.K. market.
I dont see many campers with ovens, and personally find that a serious disadvantage. Do you think that this is an option?
Tsanko Tsankov more British made camper vans have ovens because that’s the market. If British buyers want the vehicle it may be an option.
Someone else commented here that they have the van with an oven (just a different model number) 😊
Sold as Chausson in the UK. We have the 630. It’s beautiful.
I love the layout. Is there additional storage under the seats/sofa? What make vehicle is it built on? Thanks for the great video, Alan
Ford or Fiat - storage is usually available under the seats but remember that the water tank has to go somewhere!
I really like the Challenger 250! I subscribed too.
Thanks for the sub!
I just don't like the fact that this bed is electrical, because if there's a problem with the system in the middle of the trip, the passengers will have to sleep on the floor. The kitchen also needs a device to catch the steam of the food. On the hand I loved that the toilet and the shower are separate!
Wow, do I wish that were avail in the US!
i love this.
I think am like you Alan if he about electric beds. I would rather a wooden door in the toilet area but over all it’s very nice. Love your videos Alan
Thanks Gregory!
I'm in the UK at the moment and I want a left hand drive where would I go to to see one 🤔
Germany.
My wife would like that layout: a big wardrobe and space to move about and change clothes in the bathroom. I'm not sure that a separate shower cubicle is needed, but it could be useful to hang wet clothing. A drop-down bed seems such a space saver over a fixed bed, but is it possible to leave your bedding (a duvet) on it in the raised position? Not having to make up the bed every night would be a blessing.
Not really Gerry as you are losing standing height inside.
GREAT VAN. I didn't see the bed down, but I would buy this van in a heart beat.
QUESTIONS
1) DOES IT HAVE 4 WHEELS ON THE REAR AXLE
2) DO You have pictures with the bed down
3) is it a diesel engine, and what are the Horse Power and Torque numbers.
Great Video
In order Michael. Only two wheels on rear axle, no picture with the bed down and I don't have the figures for the diesel engine off the top of my head but they can be easily found.
I like it it is beautiful enjoyable but I would like the lounge section to change into a bedroom at night instead of letting the bed down from the roof.
I love the extra space a drop down bed gives but... what happens when one of you wants to get up early and have breakfast? I don’t know any couples who wake up together and get out of bed together.
Or go to bed together either
Want it now
It looks like a carbon copy of the Chausson 650, both of course owned by Trigano with many equivalent models. I own the slightly longer 2018 640 (
It is not a carbon copy!!!!! (The outer decals are different!!!)
Sweet Murphy
Most every year I go to my local TV show and the offerings are always the same.....bench seats, dining and sleeping for 6+, a huge bed and cramped as a result. Why can't an option be made for a solo camper or for couple and forget the notion of entertaining a flock of others?
I got one these. It's called a chausson 640. It's exactly the same but the 640 has an oven
I LOVE THIS ONE!!!!
It's a Burstner Ixeo 690G clone, it's a keen price but I think the Burstner has a far superior quality finish.......I love this layout though, it's a great use of space
Alan what's your open and honest opinion regarding a electric or even a pull down bed? So many people say stay away and stick to fixed ..im new to the motor home world ..thanks neil
Good point Neil. Hard question. I think most problems occur because people don't know how they work (like many things). However you should be forgiven for not knowing how it is supposed to work so I would avoid them if possible. If it breaks or something goes wrong, then you have to take it back to the dealer!
@@VanlifewithAlan thanks Alan spent the afternoon looking at the burstner range on you tube..we like a lot just the habitation door not on nearside which could make it difficult to open once on our drive ! But I guess it's something you overcome if you like something so much lol
@@nidge2822 Try and find a used one if you can!
You didn’t mention what the grade 3 meant. I’m keen to know about how these vans fair in the winter
I have a feeling it does not mean anything. The only way one can tell, I think, is to try it out in winter. i might offer to do it for them!
If I ever wanted to downsize this us the sort of thing I’d go for. The only issue with these is you don’t always get a roof light and some I’ve been in I haven’t been able to stand up under the drop down bed. And of course you both have to go to bed at the same time.
Fixed bed is always a plus especially with 2 drivers
Allan nobody can have a lie down when the vehicle is moving! Not only is it illegal, it's crazy stupid!
Nice looking van, seem to have taken a leaf from the Chausson range. Are they the same group because that's a Chausson?
That was an attempt at humour Simon! Not only are they in the same group as Chausson anot not only are they made in the same factory but they are also made on the same line!
@@VanlifewithAlan the wonders of modern business.
You didn't explain about the +/- 6.4m. Also, I'm pretty sure it would be illegal (at least in the UK) to sleep in the bed while someone's driving. No seatbelts in bed.
I do like that layout though.
I think, and I might be wrong, and don't use this as your defence in court, but if one is lying down not in the direction of traffic then a seat belt is not compulsory. Maybe someone else can give a better legal opinion rather than my hearsay?
@@VanlifewithAlan I think lorry drivers can take a turn on the bunk with another driver at the wheel when double manning, not 100% sure if its the same or not for non hgvs. Nice van and good vid thanks Alan
@@VanlifewithAlan Well, regardless of what the law is, I wouldn't do it, you'd be flung around in the event of a crash, which is probably why people are not allowed to travel in a caravan being towed.
Love it 💕
Any idea how you can get one of these in the UK? Using the website it appears the dealership is in Poland
The dealers here are in Germany not Poland. Any Trigano dealer such as Chausson should be able to assist in the UK.
Hi Alan, this is a great van layout, very impressive...just wondering if the lounge area seating can be made into a bed or sleeping area.?
There is only one bed Dave as I understand it!
How much is the value for the challenger 250 ?
What does the bed look like when it comes down?
Do we have a conversion of seating area as second bed ?
2:40 you made a point - I prefer a fixed bed
Did I miss the bed coming down. Did I miss how high/low the bed is in the down position? Did I miss how to get into bed if it is higher than 3 feet in the down position?
I’d get a thick Japanese sleeping mat and Lay it on the floor so u can have a nap while the other person is driving.
Looks like our Chausson Welcome 610 without an oven and grill?
Where is the bed room?
I want to see the bed love it so far
Love the layout and space but all these camper vans don't give a big enough kitchen area. Try washing a saucepan in that small sink it's hardly big enough for a dinner plate.
These short motorhomes with ceiling mounted beds are really good, the space is fantastic and the only space-cost appears to be a little more height. I wasn't a fan of ceiling beds but the shorter vans like this make a lot of sense with them. As for the PVC sector is it still only Globe Traveller that does this format of bed (ignoring the overpriced VW Beluga Whales) ?
Globe Traveller's unique bed system has not been copied by anyone yet - which really surprises me!
there is not a single person I know with an electric bed, that did not break down. I will never, ever, get one.
Is it legal for a passenger to be sleeping in a moving motorhome?
Not if you are driving at the same time.
You still didn't show the bed!
Is available in India? Reply please
I don't think so.
Looks very similar to the Chausson 510
agree not unusual, I don't recall the Chausson having the access hatch to the garage but otherwise its as good as the same thing.
@@wevegonetouring It is the same thing. I met the boss of the factory where they are both made 10 days ago and he said that they were the same!
Also water capacity and electric or power source
I think it is 100 litres off the top of my head (might be 95). There is no power source - if you want one, you have to install it.
Alan Heath 😳
Alan Heath I love the concepts of these mobile homes but I would have a big problem with the water and compost toilet - I shower and wash my hair every day and I have Crohn’s disease which means I’d be changing these toilets every day! 😢
I guess you have to be young and healthy and adventurous
Nice van but where is the oven
There is not one!
Have a look at the chausson welcome.
U check & covered everything looks like a pro u already no excellent job
Pretty sure having a lie down while someone else is driving is illegal in most European countries
So was attacking Libya, Syria, Yemen etc. but it never stopped anyone.
@@G-ra-ha-m No, unfortunately the warpigs made that legal
Very similar to some Chausson models
I would not use the word 'similar'. Better would be 'the same'!
Why is there seating for 6 in such a tiny van?
if you're camping with 2 other couples, it's raining and you want to have dinner together? I know this sounds far-fetched, but it just happened to me about 5 weeks ago.
Friends?
I see no need for two sinks, but i do like this layout,
Maybe someone will copy it here in the US
sleeps ?
5:40 is that a cassette toilet?
Yes, it would be highly unusual to have any other form in a van like this.
"Here's the bed switch. Ah, it's not connected, its a trade fair". Har har that is the fifth excuse I have heard from the trade for it not working. Either it is broken (which I think is most likely) or they have disconnected it. If they have disconnected it, that shows their lack of faith in it. Surely lots of videos and demonstrations would be happenning, and the manufacturer would be keen for people to see how it works. It should be made so it can be demonstrated and operated every ten minutes through the day, otherwise what is its life expectancy? Electric beds are £20,000 worth of trouble to anyone who buys them, I speak from experience. I am on personal email terms with the Project 2000 bed designer in Italy, I have the installation and workshop manual for them. Believe me you need it if you are going to buy an electric bed. Good luck!
In the manual, it says something like they are not to be operated more than two minutes every twenty. Imagine what would happen with the kids at an event like this. What would you have done at age eight? I don't blame them for disconnecting it!
@@VanlifewithAlan They could put a notice on it saying "Please ask the sales assistant for a demonstration of the bed". One major UK dealer told me "Leaving the bedding on the bed constitutes overloading it and invalidates the warranty. You must remove all your duvets, blankets, pillows before lifting the bed up"
@@gasgas2689 I bet you can guess who told me that the bedding can be left on it!
No prices you have forgotten to tell us I think
It's a normal-sized RV rotating toilet. You think that's enormous?
Hi!
I didn't know anyone could have a lie down while someone else is driving... 😲 I thought that was completely prohibited.
Or is it different depending on every country? 🤔
Thank you.
I also think it is prohibited to have someone having a lie down while someone else is driving. These days everyone should use the seatbelt, even the dogs.
@@yveeriksson6676 I believe that it is legal but I might be wrong! As I usually have to drive then it does not effect me!
U did not show the bed. That's one of the main items
He tried to bring it down but the button was disabled for the trade show
Be cooler if the table can transform like it folds up when you don't use it.
Why not mention the price?????
I love the van. Can I buy it in US?
were you from
Why can't they make a totally solar light weight but rugged Class B and a half RV. If crap hits the fan it would be invaluable. I do not understand why batteries are not farther along than they are now. Is technology just being kept away from average people. Surely there's a battery that would last a long time, perhaps a lifetime.
Kay, as technology stands, that is impossible. Even covered in solar panels and in ideal conditions, a van this size would get no more than around 5km on a full day's 'charge'.
What’s the price
Depends on the options taken.
On a rainy day or a day when you want to sit at ease with your feet up it doesn’t look very comfy
It is pouring with rain right now where I am Lynne but I am quite comfortable in the van.