A Rifle's SECRET! The Titan and Shikar Voere
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- Опубликовано: 3 мар 2020
- Voere -- a German/Austrian manufacturer that made the Titan Rifle and the Shikar, or Fohrenbach. Here we have a close look at their similarities and differences to learn about these well-made German rifles. The Voere Titan even has a hidden secret that I'll "unveil" for you. Do you like the Voere Titan best, or the Voere Shikar? Let me know in the comments. I'll reveal which rifle I think is best as we learn about the Titan and Shikar together. If you like this video give me a thumbs up, subscribe, and join me on Patreon and Instagram for more USOG. Thanks for watching!
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That Shikar is monstrously overbuilt! Beautiful craftsmanship. The Swede is a great caliber also. Very effective round.
Well put UR - I didn't realize how well made that Shikar is.
Love your channel. There is nothing else like USOG! You have the most interesting firearms.
Thank you Target Suite!
Bob Kleinguenther worked for Voere. The K14 is the Shikar Action and the K15 is the Titan Action. He was also a major design contributor to Roy Weatherby as he brought Bob to the USA.
Thank you - I had no idea! I had a couple of K-15 Instafires though - and remember his last name. Smart fellow - Kleingunther. I like the K14 - elegant design and clean lines in the action. Of course many would say the K15 is the better gun. Weatherby was lucky to have Kleingunther's contribution.
Two more rifles that 10 minutes ago I knew nothing about.😁 Thanks for your tireless work in producing these wonderful, educational videos my Friend.
I am like #82. God bless.
Thank you Rick! God Bless!
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns You're Welcome my Friend.
This has become my favourite firearms channel these days. I love wood-stocked rifles and deep-blued steel and especially bolt-action rifles with some class about them. And you have a nice relaxed conversational presentation as well as an impressive collection.
I have a few rifles, a top eject 1894 Wincester Lever action in 0.44M that I bought in the mid-70's, still with wonderful handiness and nice wood. Good on pigs in thick scrub, with a ghost ring site. My two "better" rifles are a Tikka M55 in 0.22-250, a real tack-driver with a lovely oiled satin stock with a palm swell in just the right place for me, and a Tikka M690 with a Vortex scope for LR target shooting in 0.270 Win.
Both were bought in the early-mid 80's. I'd like to see your opinion of the M690, one of the Tikkas that still seems to have some of the nice qualities of "real" rifles that come with the wooden stocks and nice fitment that precede the rather characterless (albeit functional) pre-T3 Lite. The M690 has the full cover of the breech-top with just a neat ejection port, giving the rifle the sort of stiffness that a large target scope would seem to demand. As with all Tikkas I've seen or handled, both their actions are silk-smooth and they shoot what a friend terms "lethal flat". Unfortunately, while the earlier M55 is all metal furniture, I do lament the small amount of polycarbonate on the M690, namely the trigger guard, magazine bottom-cap and mag release button.
Interestingly, I spent some time shooting a friend's Voere 0.22LR when I was a kid. I ended up buying a Russian TOZ in 0.22LR and it is still with me today, the one thing I have owned in my life the longest. It isn't fancy; the stock is some kind of failry soft Siberian Spruce with a nice piney smell when I lightly sanded and refinished it some 50 years into its life with me, but I take care of it. It is as tough as anything else Russian I have seen and used, with a bolt the same size as that in my 0.22-250, around three times the size ands weight of the tiny one I recall in the Voere. That's the nice thing about firearms, too. Good ones last for generations.
Thank for you Channel and efforts to make life interesting for us enthusiasts who love great engineering and classic look and feel of precious things that I believe every man should own at least one of.
Cheers!
Was lucky enough to receive a .270w Voere Fohrenbach as 21st Gift from my Father, amazing rifle to hold and shoot. Growing up he would tell storys of the .243 Bsa Majestic he learnt to shoot with and the magic of that rifle and well thats now exactly how i feel about mine.
Thank you for the reply the other day USOG to my public comment. Really enjoy learning about the rifles that I don't have yet and ones I've never heard of before.
Great channel 👍
You're most welcome : )
Thank you for another excellent video. I appreciate that you are bringing to us guns and manufacturers which are otherwise not discussed/reviewed by the American gun magazine media, which I suspect, regrettably, base their reviews and reporting on what the mainstream gun companies send them to review. Keep up the good work.
Great channel 😊. I always look forward to your reviews , It helps me continue my education and knowledge , keep up the great work and as always , THANKS 👍
Been around the guns my whole life and have yet to run into a Voere. Heard of the company though, and the memory that sticks in my mind is when they manufactured an electronic ignition rifle back in either the late 80's or early nineties. As I recall it fired a proprietary ammunition in which the case was actually the propellant. At least I seem to remember that being the case. Never saw one though. I knew the military was interested (and likely still is) in someone coming up with a rifle which shoots a lightweight caseless ammunition that is reliable and accurate. And electronic ignition would provide one hell of a "lock time", which would aid in accuracy.
Good memory Greg - that's them (Voere that is) - great company and rifles. BTW H&K came up with an impressive caseless design. All of the designs could not overcome the reality that the brass case is an excellent heat sink and each empty case removes heat from the chamber. Caseless ammo eventually ignites in rapid fire - in the chamber - without a pull of the trigger ; the chamber heat fires the caseless cartridge. Cooling systems of course are possible - but what a headache and even more complexity and its companion, failure.
Actually these 2 rifles on vid are made in Germany and are called Voere Vöhrenbach rifles. Factory in Germany does not exist anymore but just the name Voere does. Company is making 98 style actioned rifles in Austria. And also that rifle using caseless ammo.
You have got to love that Shikar, and I would like to try a California Stock... never had the chance yet but it will happen!
I just placed a bid on a 1968 Vohrenbach Shikar in 30-06 last evening and today I find this presentation. Kismet? Perhaps so.
Another wonderful presentation Mike, you have exceptional taste in firearms and I appreciate you sharing your passion with us.
Your channel is a great source of information for me. Thank you very much sir! Tonny.
I'm glad - and thanks for the supportive words. : )
THANK YOU! I was lucky enough to purchase a Voere a few months ago - I knew it was a nice gun but didn’t know any history! This is great!! Mine is really beautiful and I got it really because of the beauty of the wood! Now that I know what I have, I will treasure it even more!
I like that Fohrenbach. Nice design and clean. I will have to keep an eye out for one. Great video, thanks.
Hi Rick - a jewel of an action; so cleanly designed and executed!
I have always wanted to know more about those rifles thanks for the information.
Just an FYI. Back in the early 90's Mauser was marketing the Voere action in a line of their rifles. I purchased one new back then in 300 Weatherby mag. It was a wonderfully made fat bolt tri lug rifle with the smoothest bolt I've owned (yes I own Krags too), and the wood wasn't shiny but wonderfully proportioned, slim, and had a nice oil finish. A wonderful rifle I stupidly sold.
I wish you'd answer your mail.
Ahh yes - thank you - I remember - I had a .338 marked Mauser. Beautiful wood on that one.
I live in Alberta and the Titan II came to me via two previous owners from Eastern Canada. I am always thankful when someone buys and saves special things until I can get to them, and that is so in this case.
If my father was still alive, and if I still had access to his workshop and tools I would remove the barreled action from the stock. But I do not, so after several attempts and considerable thought, I have just buttoned things up again.
I watched my father hand fit more than one stock, and he was a master at that, to the point where a very good professional gunsmith was shocked to learn he was a railroader, with a hobby passion for stock work.
I got into benchrest shooting in the late 70's and added some very different flavour to his stock fitting. A friend explained to me how to drill out the guard screw holes to create pillars of bedding compound as a base. Dad picked up on that and perfected it. But he still hand fitted as well.
I cannot imagine the German stockmaker who fitted this gun ever used a single drop of bedding compound. He, or was it she, would have been at the top of their craft before they were given the task of fitting a glorious curly European Walnut full length blank. Try to find a glorio
Hi Dave, I'm in Newfoundland, just picked up a Voere yesterday in 308, haven't fired it yet. Have used yours yet just wondering what expect from it.
Thanks.
Walter
Very nice 👍. Both are beautiful. I have a buddy in IA that has a very high quality Springfield 1903 built in Montana back in the 70s. The builder must have been inspired by this manufacturer because it looks very much like these. He says it's the most accurate rifle he's ever owned. Thank you Mike
That must be a super fine Springfield - with huge amounts of work in it. Wish there was an easier way for viewers to share pics of their rifles here.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Yes definitely. I have some great pictures of his 1903. It's a work of art and shoots just as well. He paid really good money for the time I think he said $800 in the 70s but he doesn't regret it and it is his sons rifle now and he loves it. It's amazing how things work out. I bet that rifle has a great history. I could send you pics? Thanks
Rifles I knew nothing about! Thanks for the info.
Glad you're here BA
Having seen this brand or make of rifle at a Canadian Dealer's listings I wondered as to the quality. Thank you for going over these two examples.
Now my curiosity have been satisfied,..Cheers!
Most welcome Reg.
I have an old single shot, bolt action .22 Voere. Remarkably accurate and well made little rifle.
I acquired a Voere K14 in .458 Win Mag an see resemblances in both rifles- more like the Titan receiver but simpler in design and has a 4-shot box magazine. I did glass bed it to protect the stock from cracking and it's very accurate. I shot a Whitetail this year with a .300gr Barnes TSX.
They are beautiful rifles. Thanks for sharing.
You're most welcome Tyler.
Nice rifles. I like the way you disassemble them for comparison.
Thanks Frank
Ohh mate...what a wonderful report you just made..(video)...I'll do some research fro this type of guns here in Australia,,,I am very interested
Hey Carba! That's great. The Shikar is way up there on my list now - a wonderful action and rifle. The Titan of course - is better known and also an A grade rifle.
I really like that Voere Shikar. For some reason, I had in my head that the Titan was a Roessler rifle.
Hello NC - I like the Shikar a lot as well - quiet well made and something about the stock and action/bolt design is special. I know what you mean about the Titan - it seems like a Roessler. All the best.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Beautiful guns and as always excellent content for us lovers of fine guns. I had to look up Shikar which I found out is Indian for "to hunt game" or "to hunt animals for sport". Very evocative of that era.
Keep up the good work!
Firearms buying in 2022 is a far different adventure than I was even 20 years ago.
I bought my Titan II online without seeing or handling it. I spent considerable time on the phone with the owner to satisfy myself that he is both knowledgable and honest. And the gun arrived in even better than expected condition.
But the biggest factor is the calibre. If you think ammunition is in short supply in the US try getting it in Canada. I am going to become a hunter/gatherer like my ancestors and I set out quite some time ago to buy a scoped rifle in a versatile calibre. As a left handed shooter I decided it was time to finally own a Mark V Weatherby. The one I found was in 300. I never did buy that gun, but I did get 40 rounds of free brass from a friend. And dies at a great price. The gun came with 50 rounds of good ammo. So I have about 90 rounds of expensive brass to last me a lifetime. The only reason I will handload for this gun is to create reduced recoil loads with light monolithic bullets.
And the Voere has directed me to shoot it right handed because the stock configuration is so good for a right handed shooter, and my right I eye has become the better one. The scope is off because the sights are incredibly good and I am a good enough moose hunter to get them inside 200 metres, where a scope would be of little value. No scope means a lighter and simpler gun for easier carry, which is how most rifles spend most of their time. I may only fire this one once a year.
So now I have an iron sight 30/30 for close shots and an iron sight 300 Weatherby for long shots, meaning 200 metres. I am a good long range target shooter, but first and foremost I am an accomplished hunter which allows me to hunt with simple tools. Pretty logical conclusion to over 50 years of hunting.
Thanks for listening.
my first rifle my dad got me was a voere .22 in the late sixties, the gun shop owner was a German and pronounced it vo-hair...
Voere is in german ,Föhre' which is a lesser used Name for the needle tree ,Fichte', i don't know the english name.
I have a conundrum. It’s stamped Akah but it’s a Voere rifle. The top of the receiver is Voere Shikar and the bottom of the receiver is a Titan.
It has double set triggers and a drop floor plate to reveal a magazine.
The set trigger is incredible.
I would like your input on exactly what it is I’m holding
I think with out handling them, that I prefer the action on Fohrenbach but the stock on the titan, and of course the open sights on the titan is definitely a plus IMO. Both nice rifle none the less!!
My thoughts exactly!
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Great mind think alike.... hahahaha
Great video. They certainly aren’t the same! Question for you: Are there any “must haves” in your opinion on a built-in house vault? I’m about to embark on building a new house with a walkout basement and want to make about half the basement my vault. Just thought I would ask if you have any suggestions. Thanks
Hi - I went through all kinds of arrangements for guns. Finally settled on one room for "active" guns : security camera / vaults attached to studs and remote vaults - 12 guns each divided by types in other rooms - also anchored. Nothing structural and very little evidence for visitors of anything. When I'm out the whole place is alarmed and camerad up - and getting into any one vault would be a major job. I put lead in each vault floor so lifting one would take a crane - floor joists are fine so far. Hope this helps and fantastic that you are building a new house!
Hello, finally a video that describes the size of this weapon manufacturer Voere von Vöhrenbach. Here in the German-speaking area/Alps they are viewed more as poor hunter weapons. I have two, one you guys call the Shikar and the Titan ll, both in 6.5x68, which I personally find much better in terms of safety as you can safely load. Only unloading is unsecured. Too bad that only a few of these super weapons are available!
It appears that the Titan has a more complex trigger system than the Shikar, is there added benefit from that over the simpler mechanism?
Great video, I've never heard of either of those rifles. I love it.
Hi Shade - no advantage I could find - only more parts : )
I just ran across this video and glad that I did. I purchased a Vohrenbach from my brother in law 37 years ago, just before he pawned it, and have been more than a little impressed with the workmanship in this rifle. My father in law purchased it for him, probaly in the early 1970's, so I am the second owner and the last until my son's get to share it when I'm gone. What would your estimation be of the value of this gun be, it is in pristine condition.
Hi Paul - I bought one in near mint condition for $1100. These are top class rifles. Please contact me on Patreon for further prices info - I could use the help. Best to you.
Weatherby should have a 9 lug bolt, although the Mark V was built by sauer for several years until they moved to japan (howa). Have you done any videos on howa? As always another great video
Just to clarify the Weatherby Mark V comes in either a 6 or 9 lug configuration dependent on caliber selection. Also, following are three links to videos where USOG discusses Howa/Vanguard rifles. Anyhow I hope that helps to answer your question.
ruclips.net/video/O1TCtClX9LI/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/DpDY_ThTPg4/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/P5_pHXdIoG8/видео.html
This lock was also used on the Shultz & Larsen M99
Thank you for the channel. Here in Spain the Voere 2155 and 2165 are very valued and not expensive (about 1000 Euros). Both are M98. The basis is I think an old Apel or maybe Rusan. Very expensive today (still in production), but maybe the best stuff you can buy in Europe. I have it in my FN Mk2 (40 years). I agree with Target Suite. Absolutely "most interesting firearms".
Thank you! I have several viewers from Spain - they tell me of a fabulous country - amazing hunting and landscapes and people; I hope to deserve to hunt in Spain soon : ) The Voere is timeless - and does not fail. Your FN is another gem! The very best to you in Spain! Good hunting, good shooting, good life. God Bless.
What do you hunt in Spain? I'm Basque on my Dad's side. Great grandpa was a sheepherder. My family's winery, Bodega Lecea, is in the Rioja region.
I have a Voere Titian ll .270 with 2 triggers. One I am guessing is a set trigger? I don't know how to adjust the pull. There is an allen screw with a locking nut on the outside holding it in place. I am not a gunsmith & don't want to mess things up. Can you advise?
It took me a couple of listens, but I realize you switched from calling the Voere Shikar to calling it a Voerebach. Having just read, with some difficulty, the scroll markings on my Titan II I double checked and it is marked Voere Voerenbach on the barrel as well as Made in Germany on the opposite side. The receiver is marked Titan II.
Kleingunther, the old Texas importer, apparently got into the act somewhere and I found a reference to the Shikar as a pre Kleingunther version.
I recall the Kleingunther advertising touting half inch groups and apparently they did their own stocks. But half inch groups, even 3 shot, requires a properly made barrel.
I would send you pics of the roll markings on my gun, but my 70 year old eyes can barely read them, let alone tell if a camera shot is in focus.
You are pretty clearly a fan of the Model 98 with its flat milled action sides. There is no question in my mind the round action is stiffer, and the weld on recoil lug is the best way to get that with a round action. Remington got a great reputation for accuracy with a washer sandwiched between barrel and action, which would be done with a jig, the same as the welded one.
I cannot find my Torx tool to remove the action screws (which often works fine with socket head bolts) so I do not know the configuration of my Titan II.
My magnet tells me the trigger guard and magazine well are all steel, as is the well made detachable magazine, about the best I have ever seen.
Now my "complicated" set trigger breaks at a relatively clean 3 pounds, and set at maybe 8 ounces. The nice thing is that once I get it out of the stock there is a locking adjustment screw between the triggers.
Hello, what do you think about the safari voere version? (98k mauser system)
Top level rifle - outstanding.
I just got a Titan II with a Bavarian style full length stock and double set trigger.
I have a tough time believing the Shikar could be a better rifle.
Can you show how to recock the bolt on the kleinguenther/voere please?
do you have the reference of the charger or the dimensions?
I've been enjoying your videos for a while now, and this one in particular led me to buy a Shikar in 7mm Rem Mag when I saw it at my local shop. After disassembly and cleaning, I have a couple of questions for you or anyone else who knows about rifles like these:
1. Would it be worth buying an extra stock for it? I found a "long action" Shikar stock for sale for about $300, and the one it came with has a couple of issues, namely - the wood section between the magazine box and the trigger is broken out in the middle, and there is about an 8mm piece of wood missing from just in front of the rear pillar. There don't appear to be any other cracks or breaks. Should I just get it repaired instead?
2. The bluing is worn around the muzzle and along the barrel in a couple of places. I plan to keep it well cleaned and protected with Ballistol or similar, but again, would it be worth the expense to have it re-blued or attempt it myself?
3. I haven't shot it yet so maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, I just want to preserve the rifle for my grandchildren / resale / come what may.
Thanks for all the great content and for sharing all of your gunsmith and collector knowledge!
Hi Forrest - You have great luck! These are hard to find! I would buy the second stock - as they are about impossible to find. The issues you mentioned are easily repaired/filled by any skilled woodworker or gunsmith - or you could do it. The blue loss is natural use; re-bluing reduces value and won't change all that much. If the blue loss reallys bothers you I would buy a bottle of cold blue and touch up those areas only and then oil and set aside for awhile. You can keep re-touching with the cold blue for blending and depth purposes. Thank you for your kind words and support. You won't lose money on the rifle or stock - so it is just a matter of whether you'd like to make the investment in both.
Hope this helps, good shooting and all the best to you.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thank you so much for your response! This is not my first gun, but my first gun purchase so I want to take care of it. Keep up the great work!
My dad passed down this beautiful Titan II rifle he purchased in Bitburg AB Germany back in 1979 to me. He had it made and only fired 3 times. It has .308 win mag on barrel. I purchased regular .308 ammo to find out it doesn't work. Now I'm trying to figure out if I need a .308 win mag round which I can't find or a .300 win mag round. Can you asset? Thanks
I'm surprised you didn't find a Mauser 03 to have as a comparison, it's funny how the Voere decocker goes up and down and the Mauser goes from side to side...
Hi and good point. I had a high grade 03 - and then sold it. Another foolish decision. 😂
Old fingers twitch and send meesages prematurely. Now the rest of the story.
To make a very long story short I have never encountered a tighter fit wood stock in the last 50 years. A true testament to the artistry of the truly accomplished European stockmaker.
And German machine work. And German metalwork in general.
My BMW mechanic once told me the if Germans could make something more complicated they did. But it was never for lack of a reason.
So this gun will never come apart in my hands, and it will never get wet. I owe the craftspeople who made it that.
Thanks for the note David - many people look to buy just about anything made in Germany - just as you'd expect.
Two beautiful rifles and a person can't go wrong picking one or the other. That being said if I had to pick one I would take the Fohrenbach. I like how it is a flat bottomed action, has a relatively simple trigger, and a recoil lug done in the most correct way. That Titan though has some really nice wood, iron sights, and a really interesting way to house a magazine.
Still, when it comes to rifles in the California style my personal preference is the Weatherby Mark V. I admit that I am biased here, but it is difficult for me not to be. This is because I have handled a Mark V Royal Ultramark and the elegance of that rifle is seared in my memory.
I agree - the Weatherby is tops in this category. The Weatherby Safari is probably the finest. The rest are great but not Weatherbys. : )
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns The Weatherby Safari is certainly tough to beat.
when it is in the firing position, the safety can no longer be applied unless the bolt is open. Do you know what could be the problem?
Sounds like someone tampered with the safety - check if the stock is touching the safety.
Hey love your channel, very knowledgeable and informative. I happen to own two Voere M2150, which proceeds M2155. These two had different stocks, one is more like Mont Carlo and the other one is like modern rifle stock. Do you happen to know something about this model? What kind of Mauser actions built on, etc? Both chambered in 30-06. Thanks!
Thanks Doug - the 2150s I owned used standard military Mauser 98 actions made at German factories but the manufacturer code was machined off and the entire action tuned; these have the military thumb cut on the left side as you know for stripper clips. Superb rifles.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thanks, USOG! What kind of stock(s) yours 2150 come with? The two of mine are sort of confusing as they are not the same, but both have flat forearm base.
please review Voere Vec-91, caseless ammo and electronic ignition hunting rifle !!!
Oh and I saved the best for last. Mine is a 21inch, no doubt metric approximation, barrel 300 Weatherby. I have not shot it yet but I doubt I will do much paper punching with the 220 grain Remington factory fodder.
Its my moose gun so minute of moose will be fine.
Have You Done a Series on The SKS Carbine Variants Yet USOG 😀
Not yet Chris - thanks for suggesting!
Hi! I was gifted a veore titan II in 243 and am trying to find a pic rail for it. These are beautiful rifles, and I am hoping to find that base to get a scope put on it. Any advice on finding a rail would be greatly appreciated!!
Hi Shannon - I'd visually match up a pic rail you like at your local gun store and take it to a gunsmith - he or she can fit the rail to just about any receiver. I've had that done a few times - always perfect; not only with the Titan II. Also, your rifle is scarce and in demand - hard to find one in .243. Good on you : )
How is the voere cougar model ?
I know this is an older video and not sure you or anyone watching it can help but I have a Voere model 2160 in 308 and sold in 1969. Is it comparable to either of these models and if so any idea of the price range one could fetch?
Hello Team 627 - Depending on condition you could pick one up in a range from say $600. to $1200. Voere made bolt actions on the Mauser and on the Titan action - both are excellent and both are in approximately the same price range. Hope this helps.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns thank you so much! Hitting the subscribe button now!! Does the model 2160 compare to either models in your video?
Hi im interesed in one Of your hagn metal cast. How do i contact you?
Hello - those went out some time ago - sorry. Stay tuned as I may have another offer for viewers.
Hello!! what you think about the voere bolt action .22lr rifle?
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@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Vöhrenbach voere too? I find a NOS .22 carbine...
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Voere Vöhrenbach it´s at the cz 452 level of precission and quality? thank you!... and sorry for bother you!
Kufstein is in Austria ;)
Thank you! So funny - the rifles are stamped Made in Germany, and yet my other Voere's are Made in Austria - and the company is Austrian. I guess they are very close.
There was for a short time a small german branch of Voere company somewhere in Black Forrest ( Schwarzwald).
These high quality rifles are from Voere Vöhrenbach, Germany. Austrian company bought the name and that is it.
The bolt reminds me of an A-Bolt III
Hi Barndon - Good thought; these are from the 80's but maybe Browning looked back.
Those rear sights ate for larger adjustment for left and right.
Thank you Stray Tom Cat.
The scope mount base on the Shikar wouldn't by chance have a model number would it? That Parker/Ballard rifle I have has Voere stamped on the bottom of the barrel and is exactly like the Shikar you show except no forend cap and nothing stamped on receiver , it's 7mm Rem Mag. It has a Williams scope base that I don't care for is why I ask.
Hi CB - I checked and it is marked 2130 - hope you find one. Interesting rifle you have there.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thank you so very much.
What does USOG stand for?
@Mr. Derp Very nice 👍
Hi Art and all - my producer likes the sounds of "Original Gangster"
If you ever visit Dallas, Texas, stop by Jackson Armory. They have most amazing gun collection in Texas. The owner shall have more stored at home besides his shop. Let me know if you plan to visit as I know these folks.
Thanks Doug - will do. Love visiting Texas.
I really love these rifles how much can I get one for ?
If you live in Sweden you can buy mine
love my titan II even though heavy bullets dont stabilize
I'm the same - fantastic action. Mine in 6.5x55 shoots very well.
Which caliber and twist?
@@metric4710 I haven't rodded it, and can't find info doing research, but suspect it is a slow twist
I have a voere 308 magnum.
But I’m trying to sell it because the caliber is a bit too much for me.
Hello Swe - That's right - the .300 magnums can be less than relaxing to shoot - I sold most of mine. Cheers.
I actually have the shikar in 243
Unicorn
Probably a bit late on this but i actually have a Model 7000 Black Forest Voere in 308 Win could someone gimmie some info
Very, very fine rifle. Usually the skip line checkering is excellent and the wood quality high. Accuracy is excellent and the action is bank vault solid - large diameter bolt body. One of the best. Made in Germany of course; sold under the Mauser banner for awhile. Just great!
@UnitedStatesOfGuns Awesome to hear I got it on layaway at my local pawn for 700 dollars the bolt action was super smooth and was super light feeling in my hands I'm kinda shocked my little town would have something like that 😂
Noticed you have Mauser 98 base mounts on the Titan. While the 98 mounts contour correctly the base heights are way off. I wound up using Mauser 94-96 bases to get the scope to line up with the bore axis. Contacted voere about it (they told me voere Germany no longer existed and I should educate myself), went through a couple hundred dollars of mounting systems to figure it out.
Thank you Caenous - I had no idea. The only other things I do is find a mount that has about the right contour but height is wrong - front or rear ring. I put emery cloth on the receiver and sand the scope base to exact receiver contour and level - I even do this with Weaver bases - which are easier if they are the aluminum Weavers. So many ways to go - I like yours. All the best.
i like the titan...
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Great channel 😊. I always look forward to your reviews , It helps me continue my education and knowledge , keep up the great work and as always , THANKS 👍
Thank you Johannes!