There are many pros who don't ride true center dawg. Even on park skis , hardly any are built symmetrical now so if you mount true center youre left with a dead hooky feeling tail in certain cases which will hinder your ski ability no matter if your in the park or not. Vishnus are a symmetrical ski so center works best in your case. I ride magnus 102s at reccommended which is 1.5 cm back in the park and prefer that mount to center for that specific ski( i had them center mounted at first). Other than that good detune info
yuhh same here ride reccy on my Magnus 102 but recently they were to busted got the new forester meeks crushing cans mounted the same. I'm actually aroused by the sticks
I strongly recommend having the shop do a base and edge bevel. I do 1º base and edge but some people do 1.5 or 2. It'll basically let your skis ride more on the base and take some of the stresses of rails off of your edges.
I'd be cautious of a true center mounting...especially if the rocker in the tails is less than the rocker in the tips. I'd mount center between the start of rocker on each end...and often end up only 1 - 2.5 cm forward of the factory line...or 1 - 1.5 cm behind true center.
I’ve gotta say tho, u should really stop recommending true center. The ski design is made for the mounting points provided and the skis will not work as well if you mount them weirdly, obviously it doesn’t matter if you do it. but I think telling people that if they want a park ski then they need to center mount them isn’t true and could effect their experience
If you're mounting a pair of PARK SPECIFIC skis, I'll recommend true center 100% of the time. If you're mounting a pair of skis that will be used outside of the park as well, then yes recommended mount would be fine as well.
Yeah that’s true, I’ve had a pair of Vishnu’s in the past, I just think that he should throw in there that if ur intending on using the skis ANYWHERE but the park then u should mount them on a recommended mounting point
You can but the difference it'll make is probably minimal. At the end of the day center mounting is my personal preference, but recommended shouldn't ruin your skis by any means
Live with it dufus. Depending on ability level, you may not notice a difference. Hopefully will only need the toes remounted. Re-mounting skis within that critical area will weaken the skis structure and may have a binding tear out of the ski.
I have faction prodigy 2s and I read from the faction website that they recommend mounting prodigys at progressive. So I did. And now im starting to think its wrong because I saw this video and most park skiers ski true center. Is it going to be way harder for me to control my skis in the park now? I also ride all mountain so maybe a little back is better but progressive might be too far back. I have not skied them yet. Did I make a mistake?
@@TheBagOTricks ok thanks I’ll make sure to do it on my next set up now that I know, I only rode 2 times so far this year and my armadas already have dents in them and the design coming off what does that mean?
@@Zx_Evan Man don't stress it if you are using those skis in the park this year they will get destroyed anyways but it sounds like you're getting delamination and you could maybe try to get warranty on that
hey! im going to get the armada b dogs they have a 94mm under foot and im going to get the marker 11 sqire bindings and they have a 90mm would they work for a 94 mm b dogs?
Do you know any good twin tips that are size 150-157cm that are around $300??? I have looked at evo and a lot of more places and I can’t find ones that I really like, besides that armada arv 84 2022
@@jack.Rudd27 That’s awesome bro progression is great. Honestly at your skill level and height (162 cm), I’d go with a ski a little closer to 160 cm. Some great options that you can find under $400 are Line Honey Badgers, Atomic Punx 5, Armada ARV, Line Tom Wallisch Pro’s, K2 Sights, and the Volkl Bash. There’s more that I’m forgetting but that’s just off the top of my head. I have lots of experience with the Honey Badgers and I’d describe them as very soft, VERY light, and very durable. I haven’t skied too much on the others but if I were to buy a pair right this second, I personally would go with the Tom Wallisch pros. But I’d say do some research and find which pairs are more oriented to your terrain and your skill level.👍
THANKS for Video!! Why do ya recommend "TRUE CENTER"? What do you recommend for just regular Alpine skiing on groomers? Thx Again!! PS > your dog makes for an excellent co-worker!! lol
I work at a ski shop so I feel pretty qualified to answer these questions. 1. In general, if you really only plan on waxing 1-2 times a year, waxing at a shop is going to be cheaper than waxing yourself, since if you wax yourself you'll need an iron, wax, scrapers, brushes, wax bench etc. Of course if you wax multiple times a year waxing yourself will eventually be cheaper and more sustainable. 2. Again, depends on how much you ski and how much you wax. I've waxed for people who race every weekend so they need the best wax for the conditions, but I also wax for people who only ski when they can, and they ask for all temperature, since all temperature will provide a decent wax anytime they go out.
Recommending true center for all skis is just plain wrong. Get educated. Skis are designed intentionally, riding them too far out of spec is just a recipe for a poorly performing skis.
Dead center for park specific skis is 100% fine. A few centimeterss of difference won't be the end of the world. I've skied my entire life dead center and I have been perfectly happy. It's personal preference.
@@TheBagOTricks If you had stated it that way in the video, I could've agreed. A cm or two is fine, more than 3-4 is going to start causing problems. Plenty of freestyle skis that people might ride in the park though would be way off if you ran a center mount
There are many pros who don't ride true center dawg. Even on park skis , hardly any are built symmetrical now so if you mount true center youre left with a dead hooky feeling tail in certain cases which will hinder your ski ability no matter if your in the park or not. Vishnus are a symmetrical ski so center works best in your case. I ride magnus 102s at reccommended which is 1.5 cm back in the park and prefer that mount to center for that specific ski( i had them center mounted at first). Other than that good detune info
yuhh same here ride reccy on my Magnus 102 but recently they were to busted got the new forester meeks crushing cans mounted the same. I'm actually aroused by the sticks
Which pros (park skiers specifically) are riding backed up bindings
@@jonmcmurry A whole lot of slopestyle comp skiers. seems like the majority of street skiers ride true center tho
@@jonmcmurry I know that anti ollila rides backed bindings on his park skis for sure… go watch his setup video
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I strongly recommend having the shop do a base and edge bevel. I do 1º base and edge but some people do 1.5 or 2. It'll basically let your skis ride more on the base and take some of the stresses of rails off of your edges.
I could stare at the thumbnail forever. Your skis look so good!
Thank you!! I'm so happy with how they turned out 😁
I'd be cautious of a true center mounting...especially if the rocker in the tails is less than the rocker in the tips. I'd mount center between the start of rocker on each end...and often end up only 1 - 2.5 cm forward of the factory line...or 1 - 1.5 cm behind true center.
Respect for letting homies know how to save their edges!
yea forgot to detune my skis last season did one rail and got 3 edge cracks :( lesson learnt
Seasons here boys we made it
season is firing but finals are fucking up my vibe
And just like that it’s gone
I’ve gotta say tho, u should really stop recommending true center. The ski design is made for the mounting points provided and the skis will not work as well if you mount them weirdly, obviously it doesn’t matter if you do it. but I think telling people that if they want a park ski then they need to center mount them isn’t true and could effect their experience
This^^^^^^
If you're mounting a pair of PARK SPECIFIC skis, I'll recommend true center 100% of the time. If you're mounting a pair of skis that will be used outside of the park as well, then yes recommended mount would be fine as well.
I think he recommended to center mount park specific skis.
Btw He is skiing Vishnu wide plus’s and the recommended mounting point for them is true center like how it is with most park skis
Yeah that’s true, I’ve had a pair of Vishnu’s in the past, I just think that he should throw in there that if ur intending on using the skis ANYWHERE but the park then u should mount them on a recommended mounting point
If you butter alot, i like to detune the tips and tails and even an inch or so into the effective edge
Yeah. He didn't touch on what the rest of his edges are doing.
Just bought some oblivion 94’s today, first time ski buyer so thank you so much!!
first wax can be as much as 10 layers of wax. I ersonnal did 3 layers when brand new then 2 layers after 2 days of ski
What should I do if I already have park skis that have been mounted to the recommended line? Can i get them remounted forward?
You can but the difference it'll make is probably minimal. At the end of the day center mounting is my personal preference, but recommended shouldn't ruin your skis by any means
Live with it dufus. Depending on ability level, you may not notice a difference. Hopefully will only need the toes remounted. Re-mounting skis within that critical area will weaken the skis structure and may have a binding tear out of the ski.
I think it was even better the second time I watched it
I have faction prodigy 2s and I read from the faction website that they recommend mounting prodigys at progressive. So I did. And now im starting to think its wrong because I saw this video and most park skiers ski true center. Is it going to be way harder for me to control my skis in the park now? I also ride all mountain so maybe a little back is better but progressive might be too far back. I have not skied them yet. Did I make a mistake?
im also new to park so am I not going to be able to ski switch and balance on rails properly?
No you’ll be fine your overthinking it
The difference is so small that you wouldn't even notice it if someone changed them without your knowledge.
many many pros ride not true center, i think of my skis being not centered as an advantage, easier to better and do jumps (for me)
I did not even realise that I was this early😎
Do you recommend I get 171 cm skis or 178 cm skis. I’m 5’11 and 180lb
178 at least
Stay home.
How do I figure out what I should put my DIN to for park skiing?
Tips on how to progress on the terrain park??!!
literally just be consistent you will 100% see improvement
Try try again
Steep vibes :D
Yea
What skis are those?
vishnu wet +
Ummm so like I already got mine mounted is it to late 😐😐😐
Mounting true center is a recommendation, if you don't do it it's not the end of the world
@@TheBagOTricks ok thanks I’ll make sure to do it on my next set up now that I know, I only rode 2 times so far this year and my armadas already have dents in them and the design coming off what does that mean?
@@Zx_Evan means you rode park, wear and tear is a thing in park skiing bruh
@@kylershipman I didn’t ride park those days I was trying to get used to skiing again first and then armadas are falling apart
@@Zx_Evan Man don't stress it if you are using those skis in the park this year they will get destroyed anyways but it sounds like you're getting delamination and you could maybe try to get warranty on that
hey! im going to get the armada b dogs they have a 94mm under foot and im going to get the marker 11 sqire bindings and they have a 90mm would they work for a 94 mm b dogs?
It's best to ask your local shop! I'm not 100% sure!
Those Vishnu’s are 🔥🔥
Where did your friend get his purple snow pant bib?
It's Saga I'm pretty sure
early and love ur vids man
Do you know any good twin tips that are size 150-157cm that are around $300??? I have looked at evo and a lot of more places and I can’t find ones that I really like, besides that armada arv 84 2022
How tall are you?
@@westonchurch7624 I am 5 foot 4 inches but I grow a lot I’m almost 13
@@jack.Rudd27 Nice man! What kind of tricks do you have on lock at this point? 180? 360? Rail slide? Backflip?
@@westonchurch7624 180 360 540 almost 720 trying this season cleared rails and tail grabs and stuff like that
@@jack.Rudd27 That’s awesome bro progression is great. Honestly at your skill level and height (162 cm), I’d go with a ski a little closer to 160 cm. Some great options that you can find under $400 are Line Honey Badgers, Atomic Punx 5, Armada ARV, Line Tom Wallisch Pro’s, K2 Sights, and the Volkl Bash. There’s more that I’m forgetting but that’s just off the top of my head. I have lots of experience with the Honey Badgers and I’d describe them as very soft, VERY light, and very durable. I haven’t skied too much on the others but if I were to buy a pair right this second, I personally would go with the Tom Wallisch pros. But I’d say do some research and find which pairs are more oriented to your terrain and your skill level.👍
Gotta love the villagw
Bro how do you like the the decendents , i have the 8's my feet definitely be hurting
All comes down to what your foot shape is like, go to a boot fitter and see what they say. I love mine.
@@TheBagOTricks yeah definitely will be doing that, kinda was a blind buy so hope for the best I don’t have to spend 400 on new boots
THANKS for Video!! Why do ya recommend "TRUE CENTER"? What do you recommend for just regular Alpine skiing on groomers? Thx Again!!
PS > your dog makes for an excellent co-worker!! lol
As in wax do you mean waxing it yourself, or getting it waxed at the place? Also is warm or cold weather wax better than all temperature wax?
I work at a ski shop so I feel pretty qualified to answer these questions.
1. In general, if you really only plan on waxing 1-2 times a year, waxing at a shop is going to be cheaper than waxing yourself, since if you wax yourself you'll need an iron, wax, scrapers, brushes, wax bench etc. Of course if you wax multiple times a year waxing yourself will eventually be cheaper and more sustainable.
2. Again, depends on how much you ski and how much you wax. I've waxed for people who race every weekend so they need the best wax for the conditions, but I also wax for people who only ski when they can, and they ask for all temperature, since all temperature will provide a decent wax anytime they go out.
@@jakobgraham6850 ok thank you!
Love this guy
Recommending true center for all skis is just plain wrong. Get educated. Skis are designed intentionally, riding them too far out of spec is just a recipe for a poorly performing skis.
Dead center for park specific skis is 100% fine. A few centimeterss of difference won't be the end of the world. I've skied my entire life dead center and I have been perfectly happy. It's personal preference.
@@TheBagOTricks If you had stated it that way in the video, I could've agreed. A cm or two is fine, more than 3-4 is going to start causing problems. Plenty of freestyle skis that people might ride in the park though would be way off if you ran a center mount
@@TheBagOTricks I’m sorry you are just wrong, center is bad even for 100% park
Longer intro next time please 🙏🙏🔥🔥🔥🙏🔥🙏🔥🙏
those the descendant 8??
10s with a different tongue
@@TheBagOTricks higher flex? I just got a new set of descendant 8 and aim taking em for the first ride today.
@@reecerpackman4282 yep higher flex can't remember if they're an 8 or 6
I made the mistake of not de tuning my skis and they have some pretty chipped edges
no 3xl so nothing will fit me my guy
1 back > true center
That is dependent on the ski.
Isn’t that just an arsenic hoodie 😒
I've never bought anything from arsenic
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