The key difference between the Endfield gacha and the Genshin/Wuwa gacha is that Endfield doesn't give you trash 3-star weapons from rolling the gacha. You only get characters. Therefore, the worst possible thing you can get in a 10-pull is 9 (nine) 4-star characters and 1 (one) 5* character. 4-star character = 50 Arsenal Tickets 5-star character = 500 Arsenal Tickets. That means you get a minimum of 950 Arsenal Tickets every 10-pull. You need 2980 Arsenal Tickets to do a 10-pul on the weapon gacha. This means that with the worst luck possible, you will get a free 10-pull on the weapon gacha after doing 30 pulls on the character gacha. The rate for a 6* weapon is 4%, and you can guarantee a 6* weapon with 8 (eight) 10-pulls. You also have to consider the fixed rate drops mentioend in the video. TL;DR: the weapon gacha is practically free. It sounds intimidating at first but people won't understand how generous it is until they start playing. It's way better than Genshin's weapon gacha.
@@apolon_ex It's free, you get them from pulling normal banners lol so you can focus all of your income into operators and weapon banner is just a nice bonus
It takes 30 pulls on character gacha for one weapon 10-pull. It takes 8 "10-pulls" to guarantee a 6 star weapon in the weapon gacha. Worst case scenario is often the average (by my experience in gacha games). That means you need to make (30 × 8) = 240 pulls in the character gacha to guarantee a 6 star weapon. I would say this is horrible for a gacha system. But if you think about it, this is a 2-for-1 deal. The currency you would normally spend on the weapon banner, you get to spend on the character banner. So you get both a character dupe (E1 at least) and a 6 star weapon. In WuWa terms, you get astrite to spend on the character banners and weapon banners separately. If WuWa had Endfield's weapon gacha system, you could just pull for a dupe of Jiyan or Changli in the character banner and then pick up the sig weapon for free as a bonus. The thing is though, this likely means that character dupes will be pretty important in this game if you're being given this much leverage to at least grab an E1 of a character. They even give you a lower pity guarantee (120 pulls instead of 160) for the first base copy.
@@apolon_exi thought this at first, but it's better because for the same amount of currency that would give you "1 character + 1 sig" in WuWa/Genshin, you are guaranteed to get "1 base copy + 1 dupe (possibly) + 1 sig" instead.
Weapon currency being given automatically is super cool - sort of like being given a gift card to a place you like but wouldn't necessarily treat yourself to.
The Endfield character gacha is designed to benefit f2p players who are only aiming for 1 copy of the character, and it is more challenging for the whales who want to max dupe every character. In Genshin, you get a 50/50 coinflip every 90 rolls, and a guarantee at 180 rolls. In Endfield, you always get 50/50 coinflips every 80 rolls. Even if you lost the previous coinflip, the next time will still be a 50/50 without guarantee. HOWEVER, Endfield lets you GUARANTEE the banner character at 120 rolls. This guarantee will disappear after you get the character for the first time. Afterwards, it's all coinflip. This means getting the character for the first time is much easier (120 rolls instead of 180 rolls), but it is harder to get dupes (no guarantees after losing coinflip). Fortunately Endfield dupes don't seem as important as in other games. You will not find gamechanging parts of a character's kit locked behind duplicates; only generic number buffs. The 80 roll coinflip pity carries over between banners, but the 120 roll guarantee gets reset with every banner.
"The Endfield character gacha is designed to benefit f2p players who are only aiming for 1 copy of the character" Yeah, if we assume there will be enough gacha currency. But you know what? I can get AK operator with 30-40 pulls. With 120 pulls in AK I can get full banner and some random 6*. Shitty rates are shitty rates. Don't tolerate it. Genshin always had worse gacha than AK so why we should even compare it. Don't eat shit when somebody tells you that this is chocolate.
@danneo8050 The rates are lower because a character in Endfield has much more value than a character in Arknights, not only in gameplay but also in the cost of production. Arknights has hundreds of 2D characters and 12 slots in the team. Endfield will have a few dozen characters with only 4 slots in the team. Keeping the same gacha rates as Arknights in Endfield would be simply unsustainable.
@@jm0062 nah I don't believe a single bit that it would be unsustainable. Somehow niche 2D tower defence game can produce events almost every 2 weeks, songs for each event, song for new operator, multiple VAs for one single operator, live concert every year, high quality streams with paid content creators animations and HG own animations, multiple gamemodes that update every month, offline events, full anime which has 3 seasons, and finally 3 fkn another games: Popucom, Ex-Astris and Endfield. So I call it bullshit when people say that "rates are shit because it's expensive to make" Shitty rates are shitty rates. Greed is greed.
6* weapon we will get will be the signature one or a random 6* I some gacha games have a 100% rate on the weapon banner for signature weapons. On these games is Wuthering Waves. Since it's BETA let's wait.
You get 2 rate-up characters per banner (one 6-star and one 5-star). There are multiple standard banner 6-star and 5-star characters on the limited banner, of which you have a 50% chance of getting instead of the rate-up 6 star and 5-star. Just wanted to make that clear since it confused me at first. I think, you get a 5 star every 10 pulls. And for soft-pity for 6 star, it's 65 pulls. You can guarantee the rate up limited character in 120 pulls for the first time you go for a base copy of a character. If you start chasing dupes, the guarantee goes back to the normal 160 pity like in Wuthering Waves and most gachas. Pity transfers between limited banners. So if you pull 10 times and don't get the character, you'll have 10 pity carried over to the next limited banner. This is a bit weird since they also have some kind of safe lock in place for abusing the 120 pity that I don't understand. But, just know, if you get the base copy of a character, the 120 pull guarantee goes away until the next limited banner with the new rate up character. Pity carries over though (so they say). So we can assume that any extra pulls you do afterwards will be carried over to the next 120-guarantee rate up banner.
No you're getting it wrong, even if you already get the op for that banner, the 120 pull guarantee is still gonna be there until you get that 120 pulls.
⚠️⚠️⚠️ there is a real probleme for character gatcha if you have badluck you need 120 it's ok well but! you can't take the risk to try to win a 50/50 if you don't have a least 120 pull for this banner, of not and you have badluck, you can lose 70-119 and don't have a rate up pitie for the next banner and have no rate up all your life if badluck not gona lie the systeme is reeeeaaaaally not f2p friendly, you always need to eco your curency to 120 if you don't want to snowball badluck, really not f2p friendly
Since it's 3 to 1 ratio on weapon banner isnt it simply better to just continue to pull on character banner, get the 80 tickets for the weapon and maybe get more copies of said character while doing so? Or is my math failing me again xD
For anyone confused about the weapon banner, you need to make 240 pulls on the character banner (at worst) to guarantee a 6 star weapon in the weapon gacha. This is better than other weapon systems because: for the same amount of currency you would spend on a "base copy of a character + sig weapon" in Wuthering Waves and other gachas, you get to have: "a base copy of a character + character dupe(s) & built-up pity for next limited character banner + sig weapon." Normally, gachas make you choose between: chasing a dupe / building pity for next banner versus pulling for signature weapon. Endfield removes that dilemma from players. Now you can chase for dupes (or at least build up pity for next character banner) and then just pick up the weapon on the side. It is a better system in this regard. That being said, this might also be a sign that there will be greater importance placed on obtaining character dupes than the weapon. We'll have to wait and see how it turns out in-game. But overall, yes, this gacha system is good.
I might add, in the 4th 10 pull on the weapon banner you're gonna get either the displayed 6* weapon or another 6* weapon, it's just you're gonna get the guaranteed weapon on the 8th 10 pull draw, on the 4th 10 pull it's 50/50
Damn the weapon gacha very expensive if UNLUCKY I can imagine some players frustated at this, as we can't be lucky all the time. There are only 2 outcome for each targetting pull, either you praise the RNG god, or curse the devs. I think the devs should give some arsennal currency outside from character pulls to mitigate this.
Initially the rates look really bad, but a least for the weapon banner, the calculations shows that it is actually a very good weapon gacha in comparison to other games.
@@milmil5350 How is it awful? You already get 5* or above rarity on your 1st 10 pulls, and if you don't get any 6 stars pity carries over? How is that awful? Literally AK and Endfield are one of the most f2p friendly gacha games in the market compared to other gachas.
@@milmil5350 Uh yeah I'm first day (1 month exactly) player and have like all Limited character (only missing Mumu) without spending single cent for gacha (only buy a dollar pack for Profile pict pack as support to game) Arknights gacha is best one I play, and I literally have those 3 of limited character Max potential If this not good gacha, then what should I call this?
I think if they just add a reliable way to get the arsenal tickets, outside of just a refund when you pull characters, and its fine. It only feels bad if you get mega unlucky over and over currently.
Great video really simplified everything! I dont want them to copy much or anything from the hoyo games but ngl i wish they would simply the currency and make it 150 instead of 1500 😅
Sooo it's like at 80 you get a coinclip if it's for a new copy at 120 you get it after that it's nonstop coinflip? The conflip pity carries over the 120 doesn't so what happens if you stop at 60 pulls the next banner comes you do a 20 pull for the coinflip you lost it and now you have to do another 100 pulls since in this specific banner you only did 20 pulls?
You can chose to pull weapon directly by trading the gems though, although you get weapon free pulls by just pulling the characters, I don't see why it is a big no
It's actually generous. Except for worst case scenario which is disaster. If you are lucky you win a lot, if you are not lucky you pay a lot BUT we don't know yet if arsennal currency will be given outside of character pull, since weekly income is not in beta yet. If weekly income give those in just 1000 (2 5* character) amount, it will already help players by lots.
is it a 25% chance to get 6* rate up character within 80 pulls? do I have to win 50/50 between rate up and non rate up and then win 50/50 between rate up 6* and 5*?
after the 65 pull, every pull from that point forward will add 5% to the rates, so after 66 pulls your rate is now at 5.8%. So at 70+ or 80+ or just straight up 80 pulls, your chance of pulling the displayed operator is now at 50/50, and once you reach 120 you'll get the guaranteed displayed 6* op
@@shidoph707 thanks for your answer, but my question isn't about chances of getting 5/6*. I asked about chances of gettin specific rate up 6* character. e.g. let's say I got something 5/6* rarity without reaching 120 hard pity. What are the chances it'll be a 6* rate up character? do I need to win 50/50 between rate up and non rate up and then win 50/50 between both rate ups?
@ I'm quite having a hard time understanding your question so I will just lay this out for you. If you're talking about dupes, this is how it works, If you managed to get the featured op in the banner in the 80th pull or before the 120th pull, the guaranteed 120th pull for the featured op will still be available until you get the 120th pull so now you have a dupe for the op. Everytime you get a 6 star op, the pity goes back to 0.8%. So if you want to get more dupes and max pot your op, then you have to gamble 50/50 for the pulls that point forward. Once you reach 79 pulls and still didn't get any 6 star ops, the 80th pull would be a 50/50 again between the featured 6 star op that you want to get a dupe of and a random 6 star op, this is how the pulls will move forward if you want to max pot your op and already gotten the 120th pull guarantee. You really don't have to worry about 5 star ops because if your lucky, in your 1st 10th pull you can already get the featured 5 star op, every 10 pulls you get a 5 star op, so if your luck is really get, with just 60 pulls you can pull for the featured 5 star op and get all the dupes for the op to get max pot. One important reminder, pity carries over. So if you didn't get any 6 star op in this banner in the entirety of your 79 pulls, in your next pull in the next banner you're gonna get a guaranteed 6 star op with a 50/50 rate between the featured op on the banner and a random 6 star op. Do remember that the guaranteed featured op for the 120th pull does not carry over in the next banner, it only works in that banner and resets everytime a new banner comes out. In this game you can literally get a 6 star op in every 80 pull you make or maybe even lower than that depending on your luck
@ wtf are you talking about, are you just spouting nonsense without reading anything? In which gacha system are you referring exactly, Endfield or the OG AK?
just a small bit of stats that will help you in a pinch, +10% crit dmg, +10% dmg or +50% sp regen on something or +15% on skill dmg Nothing gameplay wise is locked behing potentials, for now, we'll see how far HG greed will lead this game
@@apolon_ex i just don't understand the dupe aren't important and no disgusting 3 stars in my character pulls and i only need 120 pulls and i will get free weapons pull too So Where is the greed is exactly
@ 3* are replaced with 4* characters, basically fodder When you get dupes for your standart characters, you will not feel their strength going up, the curse of AK operators -1 dp potential, basically worthless, at least in Endfield they have more stats increase "only 120 pulls", this will be specified on release, for now we can't get any info on weekly income, but from dailies alone in a month you can get 24 pulls "we'll see how far HG greed will lead this game" oh you know, it's their first 3d open-world (slop) game, i'm concerned they will just make it a cashcow for general public, with probable AK style limited banners for 300 pulls (let's hope we won't get any limited banner cancer from AK)
@@apolon_ex seems like pure speculation about currency income being bad And yeah that wouldn't be a carbon copy potential system they will have more effect but nowhere near genshin or zzz or HSR you know the actual greedy tactics that hoyo use And yeah this is the first 3D game they have so they wouldn't do what GFL2 did and kill the game for the original fans with dog shit system with stingy monthly income So again assuming the worst scenario that doesn't even make sense from a financial perspective for them for no reason
@ bruh, as gfl1 veteran i love gfl2 and monthly income is insanly good and you can actualy get every character, because they rerun them every 3 banner or so on cn server
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The key difference between the Endfield gacha and the Genshin/Wuwa gacha is that Endfield doesn't give you trash 3-star weapons from rolling the gacha. You only get characters.
Therefore, the worst possible thing you can get in a 10-pull is 9 (nine) 4-star characters and 1 (one) 5* character.
4-star character = 50 Arsenal Tickets
5-star character = 500 Arsenal Tickets.
That means you get a minimum of 950 Arsenal Tickets every 10-pull.
You need 2980 Arsenal Tickets to do a 10-pul on the weapon gacha.
This means that with the worst luck possible, you will get a free 10-pull on the weapon gacha after doing 30 pulls on the character gacha.
The rate for a 6* weapon is 4%, and you can guarantee a 6* weapon with 8 (eight) 10-pulls. You also have to consider the fixed rate drops mentioend in the video.
TL;DR: the weapon gacha is practically free. It sounds intimidating at first but people won't understand how generous it is until they start playing. It's way better than Genshin's weapon gacha.
Sounds like a pretty promising system, I like it
240 pulls to guarantee event weapon
@@apolon_ex It's free, you get them from pulling normal banners lol so you can focus all of your income into operators and weapon banner is just a nice bonus
It takes 30 pulls on character gacha for one weapon 10-pull.
It takes 8 "10-pulls" to guarantee a 6 star weapon in the weapon gacha. Worst case scenario is often the average (by my experience in gacha games).
That means you need to make (30 × 8) = 240 pulls in the character gacha to guarantee a 6 star weapon.
I would say this is horrible for a gacha system.
But if you think about it, this is a 2-for-1 deal. The currency you would normally spend on the weapon banner, you get to spend on the character banner. So you get both a character dupe (E1 at least) and a 6 star weapon.
In WuWa terms, you get astrite to spend on the character banners and weapon banners separately. If WuWa had Endfield's weapon gacha system, you could just pull for a dupe of Jiyan or Changli in the character banner and then pick up the sig weapon for free as a bonus.
The thing is though, this likely means that character dupes will be pretty important in this game if you're being given this much leverage to at least grab an E1 of a character. They even give you a lower pity guarantee (120 pulls instead of 160) for the first base copy.
@@apolon_exi thought this at first, but it's better because for the same amount of currency that would give you "1 character + 1 sig" in WuWa/Genshin, you are guaranteed to get "1 base copy + 1 dupe (possibly) + 1 sig" instead.
Weapon currency being given automatically is super cool - sort of like being given a gift card to a place you like but wouldn't necessarily treat yourself to.
Me : Buy the fix weapon first, then gacha the weapon
The Endfield character gacha is designed to benefit f2p players who are only aiming for 1 copy of the character, and it is more challenging for the whales who want to max dupe every character.
In Genshin, you get a 50/50 coinflip every 90 rolls, and a guarantee at 180 rolls.
In Endfield, you always get 50/50 coinflips every 80 rolls. Even if you lost the previous coinflip, the next time will still be a 50/50 without guarantee.
HOWEVER, Endfield lets you GUARANTEE the banner character at 120 rolls. This guarantee will disappear after you get the character for the first time. Afterwards, it's all coinflip.
This means getting the character for the first time is much easier (120 rolls instead of 180 rolls), but it is harder to get dupes (no guarantees after losing coinflip). Fortunately Endfield dupes don't seem as important as in other games. You will not find gamechanging parts of a character's kit locked behind duplicates; only generic number buffs.
The 80 roll coinflip pity carries over between banners, but the 120 roll guarantee gets reset with every banner.
"The Endfield character gacha is designed to benefit f2p players who are only aiming for 1 copy of the character"
Yeah, if we assume there will be enough gacha currency. But you know what? I can get AK operator with 30-40 pulls. With 120 pulls in AK I can get full banner and some random 6*. Shitty rates are shitty rates. Don't tolerate it. Genshin always had worse gacha than AK so why we should even compare it. Don't eat shit when somebody tells you that this is chocolate.
@danneo8050 The rates are lower because a character in Endfield has much more value than a character in Arknights, not only in gameplay but also in the cost of production. Arknights has hundreds of 2D characters and 12 slots in the team. Endfield will have a few dozen characters with only 4 slots in the team. Keeping the same gacha rates as Arknights in Endfield would be simply unsustainable.
@@jm0062 nah I don't believe a single bit that it would be unsustainable. Somehow niche 2D tower defence game can produce events almost every 2 weeks, songs for each event, song for new operator, multiple VAs for one single operator, live concert every year, high quality streams with paid content creators animations and HG own animations, multiple gamemodes that update every month, offline events, full anime which has 3 seasons, and finally 3 fkn another games: Popucom, Ex-Astris and Endfield.
So I call it bullshit when people say that "rates are shit because it's expensive to make"
Shitty rates are shitty rates. Greed is greed.
@@danneo8050i can say 1 thing. Dont underestimate packs and merch.
@@danneo8050 I really don't pay attention to the rates in other gacha, but what kind of rates would you want to see in Endfield/would be ideal?
6* weapon we will get will be the signature one or a random 6*
I some gacha games have a 100% rate on the weapon banner for signature weapons.
On these games is Wuthering Waves.
Since it's BETA let's wait.
You get 2 rate-up characters per banner (one 6-star and one 5-star). There are multiple standard banner 6-star and 5-star characters on the limited banner, of which you have a 50% chance of getting instead of the rate-up 6 star and 5-star.
Just wanted to make that clear since it confused me at first.
I think, you get a 5 star every 10 pulls. And for soft-pity for 6 star, it's 65 pulls.
You can guarantee the rate up limited character in 120 pulls for the first time you go for a base copy of a character. If you start chasing dupes, the guarantee goes back to the normal 160 pity like in Wuthering Waves and most gachas.
Pity transfers between limited banners. So if you pull 10 times and don't get the character, you'll have 10 pity carried over to the next limited banner.
This is a bit weird since they also have some kind of safe lock in place for abusing the 120 pity that I don't understand. But, just know, if you get the base copy of a character, the 120 pull guarantee goes away until the next limited banner with the new rate up character. Pity carries over though (so they say). So we can assume that any extra pulls you do afterwards will be carried over to the next 120-guarantee rate up banner.
No you're getting it wrong, even if you already get the op for that banner, the 120 pull guarantee is still gonna be there until you get that 120 pulls.
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there is a real probleme for character gatcha
if you have badluck you need 120 it's ok well
but! you can't take the risk to try to win a 50/50 if you don't have a least 120 pull for this banner, of not and you have badluck, you can lose 70-119 and don't have a rate up pitie for the next banner
and have no rate up all your life if badluck
not gona lie the systeme is reeeeaaaaally not f2p friendly, you always need to eco your curency to 120 if you don't want to snowball badluck, really not f2p friendly
@@caduceatus yeah not as good everyone say even if 120 pity is good the face it's limited is such a greedy move from hypergryph
random single pulls are ban in this gatcha 💀
Since it's 3 to 1 ratio on weapon banner isnt it simply better to just continue to pull on character banner, get the 80 tickets for the weapon and maybe get more copies of said character while doing so? Or is my math failing me again xD
@@jasperloman3102 maybe but due to how arknights manage copies characters potentials will not be that important
For anyone confused about the weapon banner, you need to make 240 pulls on the character banner (at worst) to guarantee a 6 star weapon in the weapon gacha.
This is better than other weapon systems because: for the same amount of currency you would spend on a "base copy of a character + sig weapon" in Wuthering Waves and other gachas, you get to have: "a base copy of a character + character dupe(s) & built-up pity for next limited character banner + sig weapon."
Normally, gachas make you choose between: chasing a dupe / building pity for next banner versus pulling for signature weapon.
Endfield removes that dilemma from players. Now you can chase for dupes (or at least build up pity for next character banner) and then just pick up the weapon on the side.
It is a better system in this regard. That being said, this might also be a sign that there will be greater importance placed on obtaining character dupes than the weapon. We'll have to wait and see how it turns out in-game. But overall, yes, this gacha system is good.
I might add, in the 4th 10 pull on the weapon banner you're gonna get either the displayed 6* weapon or another 6* weapon, it's just you're gonna get the guaranteed weapon on the 8th 10 pull draw, on the 4th 10 pull it's 50/50
Damn the weapon gacha very expensive if UNLUCKY
I can imagine some players frustated at this, as we can't be lucky all the time.
There are only 2 outcome for each targetting pull, either you praise the RNG god, or curse the devs.
I think the devs should give some arsennal currency outside from character pulls to mitigate this.
tbh I hate weapon gacha, but knowing HG I have some faith in them. All hail the god hands!
Initially the rates look really bad, but a least for the weapon banner, the calculations shows that it is actually a very good weapon gacha in comparison to other games.
Original Arknights gacha is awful so I actually don't have any faith in them at all. lol
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@@milmil5350 How is it awful? You already get 5* or above rarity on your 1st 10 pulls, and if you don't get any 6 stars pity carries over? How is that awful? Literally AK and Endfield are one of the most f2p friendly gacha games in the market compared to other gachas.
@@milmil5350 Uh yeah I'm first day (1 month exactly) player and have like all Limited character (only missing Mumu) without spending single cent for gacha (only buy a dollar pack for Profile pict pack as support to game)
Arknights gacha is best one I play, and I literally have those 3 of limited character Max potential
If this not good gacha, then what should I call this?
I think if they just add a reliable way to get the arsenal tickets, outside of just a refund when you pull characters, and its fine.
It only feels bad if you get mega unlucky over and over currently.
Quick note avywenna is a 5* so you wouldnt lose the 50/50 to her. Rather characters like ember or Gilberta
3:55 you kinda said that already
Ay bro, you forgot to add you can change orun to token for weapon gacha if you have op soon.
What did you think about the gameplay?
i think the combat is so great
Great video really simplified everything! I dont want them to copy much or anything from the hoyo games but ngl i wish they would simply the currency and make it 150 instead of 1500 😅
Sooo it's like at 80 you get a coinclip if it's for a new copy at 120 you get it after that it's nonstop coinflip? The conflip pity carries over the 120 doesn't so what happens if you stop at 60 pulls the next banner comes you do a 20 pull for the coinflip you lost it and now you have to do another 100 pulls since in this specific banner you only did 20 pulls?
to pull for the weapon you HAVE TO pull character first is weird and a big no for me
It's better for me honestly pulling for characters while getting currency for the weapon banner is a godsend for us f2p
You can chose to pull weapon directly by trading the gems though, although you get weapon free pulls by just pulling the characters, I don't see why it is a big no
It's actually generous.
Except for worst case scenario which is disaster.
If you are lucky you win a lot, if you are not lucky you pay a lot
BUT we don't know yet if arsennal currency will be given outside of character pull, since weekly income is not in beta yet.
If weekly income give those in just 1000 (2 5* character) amount, it will already help players by lots.
They should fix their gacha system
is it a 25% chance to get 6* rate up character within 80 pulls? do I have to win 50/50 between rate up and non rate up and then win 50/50 between rate up 6* and 5*?
after the 65 pull, every pull from that point forward will add 5% to the rates, so after 66 pulls your rate is now at 5.8%. So at 70+ or 80+ or just straight up 80 pulls, your chance of pulling the displayed operator is now at 50/50, and once you reach 120 you'll get the guaranteed displayed 6* op
@@shidoph707 thanks for your answer, but my question isn't about chances of getting 5/6*. I asked about chances of gettin specific rate up 6* character. e.g. let's say I got something 5/6* rarity without reaching 120 hard pity. What are the chances it'll be a 6* rate up character? do I need to win 50/50 between rate up and non rate up and then win 50/50 between both rate ups?
@@shidoph707 not carry over, you save or whole year you can get 0 limited characters xD what a joke.
@ I'm quite having a hard time understanding your question so I will just lay this out for you. If you're talking about dupes, this is how it works, If you managed to get the featured op in the banner in the 80th pull or before the 120th pull, the guaranteed 120th pull for the featured op will still be available until you get the 120th pull so now you have a dupe for the op. Everytime you get a 6 star op, the pity goes back to 0.8%. So if you want to get more dupes and max pot your op, then you have to gamble 50/50 for the pulls that point forward. Once you reach 79 pulls and still didn't get any 6 star ops, the 80th pull would be a 50/50 again between the featured 6 star op that you want to get a dupe of and a random 6 star op, this is how the pulls will move forward if you want to max pot your op and already gotten the 120th pull guarantee. You really don't have to worry about 5 star ops because if your lucky, in your 1st 10th pull you can already get the featured 5 star op, every 10 pulls you get a 5 star op, so if your luck is really get, with just 60 pulls you can pull for the featured 5 star op and get all the dupes for the op to get max pot. One important reminder, pity carries over. So if you didn't get any 6 star op in this banner in the entirety of your 79 pulls, in your next pull in the next banner you're gonna get a guaranteed 6 star op with a 50/50 rate between the featured op on the banner and a random 6 star op. Do remember that the guaranteed featured op for the 120th pull does not carry over in the next banner, it only works in that banner and resets everytime a new banner comes out. In this game you can literally get a 6 star op in every 80 pull you make or maybe even lower than that depending on your luck
@ wtf are you talking about, are you just spouting nonsense without reading anything? In which gacha system are you referring exactly, Endfield or the OG AK?
I need to know does the character dupe thingy really change them gameplay wise or just stat like AK
just a small bit of stats that will help you in a pinch, +10% crit dmg, +10% dmg or +50% sp regen on something or +15% on skill dmg
Nothing gameplay wise is locked behing potentials, for now, we'll see how far HG greed will lead this game
@@apolon_ex i just don't understand the dupe aren't important and no disgusting 3 stars in my character pulls and i only need 120 pulls and i will get free weapons pull too
So Where is the greed is exactly
@ 3* are replaced with 4* characters, basically fodder
When you get dupes for your standart characters, you will not feel their strength going up, the curse of AK operators -1 dp potential, basically worthless, at least in Endfield they have more stats increase
"only 120 pulls", this will be specified on release, for now we can't get any info on weekly income, but from dailies alone in a month you can get 24 pulls
"we'll see how far HG greed will lead this game" oh you know, it's their first 3d open-world (slop) game, i'm concerned they will just make it a cashcow for general public, with probable AK style limited banners for 300 pulls (let's hope we won't get any limited banner cancer from AK)
@@apolon_ex seems like pure speculation about currency income being bad
And yeah that wouldn't be a carbon copy potential system they will have more effect but nowhere near genshin or zzz or HSR you know the actual greedy tactics that hoyo use
And yeah this is the first 3D game they have so they wouldn't do what GFL2 did and kill the game for the original fans with dog shit system with stingy monthly income
So again assuming the worst scenario that doesn't even make sense from a financial perspective for them for no reason
@ bruh, as gfl1 veteran i love gfl2 and monthly income is insanly good and you can actualy get every character, because they rerun them every 3 banner or so on cn server
So hard pass of this game ;/ more predatory than Hoyo lolz.
PS: its still hope, that they change this horror system.
Can you tell why is it more predatory than hoyo?