Trump's American Carnage: Frank Luntz (interview) | FRONTLINE
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- Frank Luntz is a strategist and pollster who has worked on behalf of the Republican Party for nearly three decades.
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Justice is not revenge...it is accountability
Well said. How anyone misses this is something I can’t understand.
100% agree!!!!
Mango Mussolini's only mission is grifting & revenge. Nothing else has ever mattered, other than avoiding prison!!!😢😢😢
Justice is simply applying the law. If the law is unjust then so is justice. If the law is just, so is justice
I agree with the above replies, what I see as the biggest problem is justice is not being served. our cities were burned and looted people walking out of store with full baskets, and being allowed to get away with it. The withdrawal from Afghanistan was total shit show. The border wide-open & all they keep talking about is January 6th. All of this is so off point people now have no faith in democracy and definitely not this administration that is seen by many as total failure
“No one saw this coming”
🤚 raise your hand if you definitely saw it coming.
I listened but we American s need justice, it was our house they wanted to take down. Russia couldn't planned it better.
@@karenlugo479
Where are your facts to prove Russia couldn’t have planned it better. If you need to check with CNN first it’s quite understandable.
All it took for me to be absolutely convinced that there'd be an attempted coup was the rhetoric from my conservative friends and family. I had been expecting something like that since November.
@@soulfireonfire6423 The sun rises in the East and sets in the West. If you need proof of that then you should probably just STFU.
100% 🤚🏼
Oh please. The senate had the chance to stop him. Two times. Yet they refused to do anything.
The hell with elections. Let the Senate decide. Jackass.
Exactly! They knew what he was and still gravitated to him WILLINGLY!
The Repulikkkan controlled Senate - - refused to remove after Trump was impeached. They went against their collective oaths by letting him off. They are supposed to defend & protect us. Instead, they gave a case of beer & the car keys to the guy who got drunk &crashed the car last night
No m
When you tell people, " If you don't take your country back now, you never will.."
To me, that sounds like fighting words.
Which is why Judge Luttig said Trump is a clear and present danger to the country. Those are the words describing "fighting words" in the First Amendment.
It's called insighting a riot.
My oath to the constitution doesn't expire
You lost me with "Mitch McConnell cares about integrity"
Yeah, this man is a deranged born again believer in the GOP. It is his religion.
Or when he said Mitch McConnell cares deeply for this country. Anyone who can say that with a straight face is a clown.
You got me to spit out my coffee with that one...lol...
Trump could not have destroyed the country without McConnell’s help.
And the country is dead, well
not really. No it’s in a permanent vegetative state. I don’t see how it can recover.
thanks for posting that comment, saves me from wasting my time watching this -- I already had some reservations knowing that this guy has an actual, life-size mocked up Oval Office replica in his basement (I mean really, who *does* that?!), but your comment tipped the scales
I don't buy the idea that no one saw January 6th coming.
Where I live ...it was very apparent this was on the horizon.
We saw something evil and violent coming out of that rally. The Democrats were telling each other to stay out of DC. We knew
You weren't listening if you didn't see this coming?
Load of crap, they were voting to overturn the election. They were complicit in the lies
They knew the truth. You are putting a spin on it so Trump will get off with no accountability
@@misspurr2573 Trump has the warchest of $250-$300 million, of course he will make another run for the Presidency. When that happens, he’ll need a strategist like this guy.
Yea it’s BS, he’s trying to save face for his fascist party
We need justice. This is not about revenge. It is about holding those who do wrong, accountable.
In my opinion it's nothing but a CULT of evil, poorly educated, deprived racists, looking for scapegoats to blame for their short-comings in life!...I can't see it any other way.,🤔why would one support and vote for a proven LIAR , who promotes violence ,violence, and will do anything çriminal to have their way? 🤔
Yeah .....please tell us more about your non-partisan objectivity
@@TheOpenSociety777
If you think for one moment this is about revenge, it is YOU that has the bias Skippy, not me. There are literally MOUNTAINS of evidence of his crimes. We have terra bytes of video from Jan 6 and a dozen or more eyewitnesses that have states under oath that he was refusing to do ANYTHING about what was happening at the Capitol that day. His dereliction of duty has been verified and proven. His attempts to STEAL MY VOTE have been proven. His THEFT of our national security secrets has been PROVEN. He is now going to be held accountable for just a few of his overwhelming number of criminal acts.
They are that's why Trump's going to go cuz he's admitted to the crimes he's being charged Pinnacle of white privilege
I agree with u!!! Amen
Plenty of people predicted the possibility of January 6. Lots of us had these discussions prior to it, but no one was listening to those of us who envisioned possibilities they didn't want to believe.
He is doing just what he says Trump's base does--he hears what he wants to hear.
Well? If you paid attention to his terrorist training rallies?…you knew he would unleash the monsters.
Nobody cares if McConnell loves his job in the Senate. He needs to go.
Pelosi, Schumer, McConell are all the enemy of the people. The swamp has people from both sides
That is so true about him loving his job, because I'm sure he doesn't want to ever work as hard as most of us do and live with the pay that most of us try to make ends meet. And most importantly not be able to keep showing up for a paycheck and not accomplish anything
First at the beginning Frank talks the the GOP leadership must do something because Trump will win. That’s not for them or him to decide. Second there is no faith in elections when the rules can change at the last moment unconstitutionally on mail-in ballots! Their is some much wrong with this interview/ video!
@@colinkelly990 very true
We need huge turnover in government for both parties. We need representatives who represent the people again rather than oligarchs. Washington doesn't care at all anymore about the people. All they care about is their unholy corrupt collusion with their oligarchs
This video is essentially an infomercial for Frank Luntz to rebrand himself.
Not doing a great job of it
I had to turn off my Ad Blocker so I could watch this Luntz commercial about the "New" and "Improved" head of the doublespeak department.
"Please use the word barrier, it is a prettier word!...but I was laughed at on AirForce One". Poor nonpartisan Dr. Luntz
Yeah I think he will have shaved head with beard next or maybe just mustache. Maybe he will just gain 50 pounds. He'll change his appearance somehow.
Keep the narrative Frank. It will help get millions for your new image.
Good point...
I ❤️ how he points the finger at Dems for Trump. But the ONLY ones to blame are GOP leadership.
Exactly! It’s 3 years later and I’m curious as to whether or not he still holds these same political positions?!
GOP Grifter Only Party
@@JR-playlists oh, that’s a keeper!
“ Nobody predicted “
Wrong , many of us did and were ignored
He says, "Let's move on and focus on the future." We cannot move on unless there is truth and accountability.
Consequences ? Being a republican means consequences are only for others...who are losers and republicans aren't losers because others cheat and steal to win.
Don't listen to what Luntz says. Hear his duplicity. This is not a nice guy. He's the same monster he always has been. It's in his blood.
@@robertmacdonnell258 He seems absolutely unable to stop with the spin.
"The Democrats need to chill. Tone it down"!!!!! As they rape and pillage, we're supposed to stand by and chill out! These "Republicans" exist only unto themselves. The rush limbaugh Trumpians feel justified in dissing Democrats. Liberals are completely dismissed and devalued as non Americans.
Hold your breath fella. I'm sure you can hold out long enough.
Seems like the whole point of this interview is to say..."no one could see this coming" so don't hold anyone accountable. Not buying into that.
"except me"
I saw it coming a year and a half ago. Trump was defying the Constitution and protocols daily. He had no intention of leaving even from before he won in 16 and he set the narrative with lies about the election being fraudulent long ago. It was a way to hold onto power. Period.
Intel = New Ignorance Department
I saw it when he first declared his bid, all through his first campaign it was clear to me. This man was ALWAYS out for himself and didn't care about the repercussions. I am a highly sensitive person and can see these things so clearly that it is difficult for me to understand how others Can't see it. 🤦♀️ hand over face the last 4 years has been rough.
Everyone paying attention to the right social media chatter saw this coming.
We need accountability, when we don’t hold those accountable for their actions we are accepting those actions and creating a new norm that allows for this conduct
Holding Trump accountable in a court of law is not seeking revenge.
Bogus indictments.
I’m an old lady sitting in my living room. No secret service, no intel and I knew exactly what was going to happen. Geez it’s not rocket science.
He did not charm..he was a bully and crook and failure in the business world
I said too that there would be violence, I did not expect the storming of the capital because I assumed they would be at least as ready as they were for BLM.
Ayuh.
I knew it too. Knew it for weeks and I'm just an average guy.
As an Ozarkian. Yeah... I saw Trump coming a mile away.
"I'm not a Republican anymore.
I'm trying to tell the truth.".....that quote tells you everything you need to know about the GOP
If he is not a Republican anymore, has he joined the Democratic Party?
You don't "try" to tell the truth. Is it the truth, if you can tell it or not. And everybody knows it's the truth no matter how much you attempt to spin it.
Same here.
As opposed to lying and abetting before he decided that, so he says....now.
@@nealgrey6485 He's a nobody, just like he always has been. Nothing has changed.
“Come to the capital on January 6th. Gonna be wild!” “Go to the capital and fight like hell or you’re not gonna have a country”. Yeah, no one could have ever seen that happening.
That's funny. I watched his full speech.
I N E V E R heard him lay out those words strung together that way. By themselves, they mean diddly. Give it a rest. Such utter propaganda.
Actions speak louder than words. Republicans still support Trump no matter what
Because the leftist are on the fast trac of destroying America. Globalist vs nationalist.
Some republicans...
I disagree with Luntz on McConnell: McConnell is about power and gaining more personal power.
McConnells wife - Chinese, 2 mega Chinese Businesses owned in China.
Don't they know that, bcoz they are in cohoots with them, greed
Luntz has actually sat down and talked with McConnell. Does that count for nothing Mr. Wasilchen? Sure McConnell is about personal power, but his passion for power may be more complicated than you think.
@@thomaswillette888 Thank you for the personal acknowledgment, Mr. Willette, but it's not complicated.
@@thomaswillette888 ...and Luntz almost had me convinced...until he lunged to be on McConnell's good side.
Next time I get a speeding ticket I am going to stand before the judge and explain to him how revenge is not the answer and we really just need to move on. After he explains to me that legal consequences are not “revenge“ I will let you know how it goes.
LOL
Resistance is futile, 😮
Tell him there is no victim.
Tell him you’re running for president and what he’s doing is clearly election interference 😂.
Thank you so much for your words. They were right on. I appreciate it because it says what we should be saying. This guy is too in awe of McConnell. He’s protecting what McConnell did -which was wrong. He led s party of cowards. I see McConnell as our worst player. He wasn’t ever working for the people. He is responsible for alot of the hatred that came then and has only got worse- leading us to a candidate like Trump. McConnell came out when Obama won to show his displeasure and rally support AGAINST a president who won. McConnell should never have shown his racism. That -in my opinion- is behind these particular statements. And McConnell deserves what happened to his party because of what HE did. What Trump did is worse. He committed crimes. And a party who refused to stand up to tyranny will be destroyed by those who stay silent.
My god, Luntz is insufferable. He's like someone at a cocktail party who's oddly convinced he's the smartest person there, and strangely unaware he's the only one who thinks so.
Love your comment so true
Luntz and The Gang of Five (Gingrich et al.) need to drop to their knees and beg forgiveness for starting this country down the road to political vitriol.
We don’t move on without holding criminals responsible for their actions.
Hasn't there always been two sets of rules and laws for people of this country? And the way black and brown men are still dying I guess it still exists? With all the damage done to race relations in the country for four years OMG, somebody should have some splaining to do!? These want to be tyrants wanted to go backwards! And although nobody ever said how far back they wanted to take the country, you got the impression it was to the days of slavery and of course long before that pesky civil rights issue came up. These creatures rode in on an escalator taking them both straight down to the pit! And it's been racially hate filled from their beginning! Thank God their reign of terror is over!? But, without any accountability!? Nobody ever wants to look back, but its needed in order to fix our problems left over as far back as slave days even from the writing of the constitution.
How many times did he call for more investigations of Benghazi? I don't know but I would be willing to bet several times.
👏🏽 we don't negotiate with terrorists.
I despise the mob that attacked the Capitol on January 6th. But they should NOT be prosecuted. Criminalizing political demonstrations is a really bad idea. Laws that criminalize political demonstrations can be used against ANY group that threatens the status quo. Even against groups that advocate Universal Health Care, Affordable Housing, Debt Relief for Students, etc.
@@joeblow3990 It wasn't a demonstration. It WAS A MURDEROUS RIOT. A police officer was KILLED. The law states that those involved in a killing are JUST AS GUILTY as those who "pulled the trigger." Every participant must suffer a fine large enough to destroy their finances, and TEN YEARS in prison.
Frank is part of the problem.
Solution?
@@nicholasthompson7690 Intersectionality.
@@nicholasthompson7690: Truth and individual accountability.
Exactly... blind deaf and super dumb
Frank is the megaphone part of the problem.
He said march to the capitol, they marched to the capitol. He said fight like hell, they fought like hell. Yes his words DID insight that "riot" and all the messaging leading up to that day that gathered them there to hear that message
Absolutely correct. He also said "and if you don't fight like hell, when you wake up in the morning you won't have a country."
Yet it troubles me that so many people were prosecuted and jailed. I say that because I believe that these people actually thought that our country and way of life and our "almost sacred" right to have free and fair elections, had been compromised. And that the perpetrators were about to get away with it! Yes, Trump had the crowd riled up! (I assume the ones who weren't buying Trumps bullshit, did not participate in the violence.)
The constitution warns of this sort of thing happening and provides a pathway for Americans to fight, if necessary, to protect our rights even if we have to fight our own government. Should they have believed that President Trump was was not serious about how dire the situation was and that he was just kidding? Well, he was our President! If they shouldn't have believed him, who should they believe?
The one who should be in jail is Trump, not the ones who followed his orders. He should have, at the very minimum, been barred from ever again holding public office.
If you or I went into a crowded theater and yelled "FIRE" when there was no fire, we would have to go to jail, especially if it resulted in people being killed or injured or there was property damage or loss of income because the theater had to give refunds to everybody who bought tickets. There would likely also be a stipulation that in the future, the perp is not allowed in the theater anymore or risk being arrested again. Some sort of punishment would be given. Right? But, you wouldn't punish the people who bought the movie tickets! You punish the person who yelled "fire."
"He should have seen that from the podium..." he (DJT) did know, Trump was told at the rally there were people who were trying to see him who were armed with assault weapons, DJT said " let them in, they are not going to hurt me." He didn't care who else may get hurt. He also watched the mayhem for a good two hours in amazement and truly tickled that people were fighting it out.
When you sell your soul to the devil, PAYMENT WILL EVENTUALLY BE COLLECTED.
True, so true.
@@SS-us9pl appropriate name for an atheist God hater. There is still time to turn to Truth. Love to you, may God Bless you.
@@SS-us9pl God loves u😘
Preach
"You can't buy politicians."
Lost an insane amount of credibility there
I agree. But politicians have a higher price than businessmen.
@@ogdocvato if that was remotely true they would have given Trump money not spend so much against him.
Lol what a joke right?
Politicians are nothing but leeches.
I think he meant you can't buy them outright. You have to very "careful" about how you approach it, cuz it's illegal and can be used to blackmail. In business it's perfectly legal to buy people out. But yeah, at face value, that's an incredibly stupid thing to say, but I'm willing to bet you're only saying that because you at least kind of like Trump.
He is really charitable to Trump and MAGA.
"..., but revenge has never been a value that has served people well."
Paramount words. Most problems in human civilization come down to this.
No Frank. We don't need reconciliation. We need accountability. For once.
Frank seems to want to be extemely accurate to exact wording an nuance when it comes to what Trump and Republicans have said. So why is it ok to paint Democrats with broad brushes and disregard nuance in what they say?
We do need accountability How do we do that as the citizens of the United States How can we do this? The extreme lies that we have constantly heard through the last four years have been so ridiculous what can we do as citizens to make this stop?
@@benjamingruder4875 Because the GOP and their lunatic base and conspiracy theorists are so far off and all over the map.
Yes democrats supported violence all Sumer and condoned it and bailed out the looters and rioters So they set the stage saying this was tolerable.
The most dreadful part of this "let's move on" is that those who want to move on are shifting accountability for the problem by putting the responsibility for resolution on someone else. This doesn't work practically anywhere else in life, yet we're suppose to see it work here. Trump's supporters had years to solve the problem that is him and they never did. Now the "fit hits the shan" and they want the rest of us to "move on".
I beg to differ. Living in the middle of Trump country I did see this coming and many others did too.
Location, location, location🚜
Yip. "Many" as in...Any & EVERYONE with a TV or a phone or access to another breathing human being within 100mi. Maybe not SPECIFICALLY what happened, but a clue enough that the W.H., C.H., and every other gvmt building should have been heavily guarded well in advance.
I noticed the fundie church got right behind him. How many of these Trump country voters are fundies too?
And you didn't see the mass destruction over the summer? I call Bull Shtank on your comment and all the others supporting it. You are fools and are about to experience the Dark Cold Winter Biden inadvertantly referred to as opposed to Greatness we were track to attain
@@bigdaddybossman8341 could you describe this greatness we tragically missed out on? I really don't understand what Trumpers even want besides worshiping Trump and hating people who don't.
This man right here is articulate and intelligent, but anyone can be those things and still never be WISE, he my friends is all of the above and it's a shame that he isn't a politician because that's just what America needs "TO BE GREAT AGAIN"!!!! He recognizes in situations and in people things that sadly, many do not even realize the importance of (A) The ability to have that sense of recognition and (B) Just what he is recognizing in situations and people that makes said recognition so valuable. I can go on for days breaking down each point he made and why, not to mention why isn't anyone else with a platform that can reach the ears of the masses of voters?!?!? It's more than a breath of fresh air, it's more like the feeling you get when you're under water and it seems like it's the end but then suddenly you've been saved and that first inhale you make, how sweet is that breath that you know saved you... At least I know that I'm not in the twilight zone where everything is backwards. The government is a body of the PEOPLE and WE ARE THE PEOPLE!! Democracy and Diplomacy isn't respected and expected like it used to be, why? I like living in that world better because I felt safe and I knew my children would be safe and my children's children would be safe, not because of the locks keeping out the bad people but because it was just a safer world.
In 2016 I stood in line with a 45 year old woman from the country, in the Mid-Atlantic, who had never voted before. She looked just barely out of the woods.
How did a NY conman pull these people out?
He told them what they wanted to hear and they believed him.
the trump freaks i know now could barely care for a second about politics prior to 2016. they didn't care.
He is trying to rehabilitate his image by "coming clean" but he is doing so in a guarded and manipulative way. He is *very* careful to paint a picture that pins all the blame for GOP fascism on Trump. Trump is the logical end of decades of right-wing demagoguery.
If the Republican Party is destroyed, America will no longer be a Democracy
what is your problem
I was a Republican for thirty plus years. I don’t know how we got to Trump. I never voted for him. For now the Republican Party has lost me and many of my friends and family.
@@mtadams2009 good riddance
The Russians used us as patsies.
“We should’ve seen this in the very beginning.”
We did. YOU didn’t.
Isn't it funny or just a mystery? Or are they just lying to us and themselves?
To be fair consider how many voted for the asshole. Those of *us like you who did; must admit we share this country with a ton of ‘We’ who didn’t!
@@pilsung26 he needs to stop speaking then. He shouldn’t let himself wax about the future like he’s some expert then. On one hand he’s saying that trumpers want him back in office in 2024 and on the other hand he’s saying that dems shouldn’t be preventing this. 🤷♀️🤦♀️
What does Frank think about politicians being held accountable now.. 2 years later?
Great rebroadcast - the events being similar then and now in Feb 2024. 👍
Frank Lutz is the guy who gave a former backbencher named Newt Gingrich the vocabulary to allow him to portray Democrats not as the "loyal opposition," but as the enemy. As in, a mortal threat to America that needed to be opposed at all costs. Luntz helped plant the seeds of deep division and polarization that took off in the 1990s. He provided the accelerant for the fire that Republicans lit at that time, turning neighbor against neighbor with "wedge issues." He typifies the situational ethics that Republicans began using for political advantage in the Reagan era, refining and weaponizing it. He has zero credibility and a huge amount of culpability for today's dysfunctional and damaging politics. The living embodiment of the term "partisan hack."
Needs to admit his roll in this disaster.
It's strange b/c he's naturally THE leading expert and almost uniquely qualified to comment on the descent to absolute trash heap of contemporary public discourse... yet he seems physically incapable of acknowledging that it didn't just happen in a vacuum. A bit like having Dr. Frankenstein on to opine about those *mysterious* monster attacks happening lately.
Thanks for your comments, trying to fit this persons(Luntz) perspective into the larger scheme of things. Was guessing him to be disclosing the existence of a very large ill-willed group of Americans who had been growing an undeclared hatred for the rest of the Americans who were no-longer-living-in-poverty-and-perversity. Immaturity, retardation , mineral deficiencies, incestuous parentage, cult imprisoned persons; is that what has happened to these Americans that they don't appreciate freedom? They seem resentful, ungrateful and vengeful, wallowing in victimhood , which is DJT's essence. It makes sense they would latch on to him as their leader. He seems fueled by hatred and it sounds like these followers really are of his psychological kind. Bet DJT was pretty happy when he realized what he'd fallen into. Destroying peace and happiness where ever they find it, calms them.
Thank you so much for this comment!
@@icaroicaro5711 Yep, it's accurate. And the corporate media began to let them say anything without challenger, and repeat it for them too. So, Republicans began calling the media liberal and made the term liberal - a smear. America just kept moving right, becoming more coarse, and willfully ignorant.
It's not revenge that's wanted---it's justice.
Thank you. 😐
If this isn't what impeachment was made for, we should just do away with it.
Thank you. I am a voter in Georgia who previously leaned republican but they have lost the right to govern. Right is right... Focus groups and polls shouldn't be a factor.
I agree with you.
@@heatherhent4445 So, you think that we should all just shut up, let Socialists have their way while we lose all our rights?
I do remember a pro-Bernie Sanders FB group and in it there were ppl so angry at the democratic party for forcing Bernie to give up his aspirations to the presidency in favor of Hillary Clinton that they decided to stay home on election day.
Some said they would vote for whoever got the democratic
nomination but those who said they wouldn't sounded really really really angry.
The rest is history.
He is spot on about messaging and wording. Even if it is not the case, people need to at least try to maintain an image of caring more about informing than affirming.
One thing is certain. Frank Luntz is still a Republican.
Oh *hell* yes. And if he truly thinks that Mitch McConnel is a historian and a patriot, he's out of his mind.
Frank just said he wasn't a republican. Watch the video and pay attention!
In the start of this video Frank says he's not a republican anymore.
Frank is a tosser
@@ceedee410godschild2 - I did, and there is nothing, repeat NOTHING, to suggest that he's not still a Republican in his heart. He may (or may not) have changed his party registration, but it's blatantly obvious that he still agrees with the GOP's destructive agenda as it's developed over the past forty years. If he truly had changed, he wouldn't be calling a greedy, evil old man like Mitch McConnell a "historian" (which he is not) and a "defender of the Senate" (ditto, unless Merrick Garland has been secretly on the Supreme Court for the last five years). You are wrong, so take your tsk-tsking and direct it at someone who isn't well aware of what you're doing.
Can't start fixing the future without holding our politicians accountable for their behavior. No accountability only ensures that we will have a repeat of this ugliness in the future. We have to train our politicians as we train our children.
We train dogs, not people! But its obvious you have been trained. You dont hold the political party that controls you accountable for their actions. Any truth thats are contrary to what youve been told to believe are immediately rejected. Its people like you that live in an alternate reality who arent capable of understanding or seeing the hypocrisy of those you support that allows the corruption and lawlessness to continue.
Panther Boy, Shannon Laramie has no conception of your maturity and belief in accountability of all .. or whom you support. She is also illiterate, so there's that. I agree with you and the majority here. The time for our elected officials attempting to "train" us IS OVER! Even Scripture tell us to "train up a child ...."
I think you haven’t heard a thing this guy is saying.
Panther Boy, i totally agree with you. Without some sort of accountability on the part of republicans, i honestly don't know if we will ever be able to move on, and the rage so obviously felt by the right will be matched by the rage felt by the left. I strongly say, no reconciliation, no moving on. Justice must be served!
Accountability for what? Most of the criticism of Trump remains extremely vague. Does the left get held accountable for anything, ever? Libya? Syria? Yemen? Serbia?
I would love to see an updated interview
Frank is right about many things, but letting Trump not face a count trial can't let something like that go unanswered. Biden is doing well until Gaza even with that. Trump winning 2024 I don't see it
No one is wanting revenge or "to get even". The PEOPLE want elected officials held accountable for their crimes the same way any other citizen would be. How Luntz can understand nuances about so many other aspects of the past 5 years but not this is beyond me.
He’s a republican, it’s what they do. What I appreciate about this interview more than anything is the honest bare bones look into how they think and how they feel. That’s not something I have been able to find anywhere, and trust me, I’ve been searching.
So where’s the accountability for Obama, Bush and Clinton’s endless wars!
@@pinabasu4200 what about the price of tea in China?
@@anamericaninamericavotesblue 😆😆
Because he was a Trump sycophant.
You want to tell the truth, you might start with your accountability.
I
He says he doesn’t believe people will have faith in our democracy... I say this; if you don’t believe in democracy, then don’t participate... we got this.
Also he says don't go for revenge trump us already “dead”... Trump is about to start a MAGA party... Impeachment will stomp his dreams out for good.
@@b3at2 totally agree, except your last sentence. MAGA party will be fueled by another impeachment. Trump won't be POTUS again in any case
yea, is Luntz gonna be the next Republican criminal to be rehabilitated just for breaking with Trump? Pretty soon, the Democrats are going to be the GOP of the Bushes (and their good friends the Clintons), and the GOP is going to be party of delusion and inchoate rage, thanks in part to Luntz.
I love these so Called "Former" Republicans want credit for extinguishing the fire that they started
I wonder what he would say now, 3 years later!
It doesn't matter about democrat or republican bullshit corruption , people are getting sick and fucking tired of working for these corrupt corporations
@Amy,
"No one saw this coming"
"raise your hand if you definitely saw it coming."
YES, WE SURE DID!!!✋
🤚🤚
I definitely saw it coming, and so did many people I know. Based on what some far-right wingers told me they wanted-and still want-I thought the might launch their much desired civil war with the invasion of the Capital. Know this, many in the far-right have said they “don’t need Trump to help them carry out retaking “America” from Satan”. Watch more. Talk more with everyday people if you live in a red state. These people practice practice practice. Many joined the military just to learn how to fight our military and to train their fellow “believers”. Whether a civil war finds and opening or not, there is no excuse for speaking publicly if you haven’t done the op research.
@@lydiaajohnson Pete’s sakes and have mercy Percy. Shut this one down. She ain’t got half a clue. Keep tryin broad. 😂😂😂
And so did the intelligence community
Why is Trump a criminal still running.,?
"he [Mitch] cares about the institution" Sure...as long as it can be manipulated and twisted into a pretzel to serve his purpose!
Amen!
ikr! What about the institution of having judicial nonminations?
"cares about the institution" is just the one thing he plausibly can say he cares about that's even plausibly good thing that can maybe possibly explain his selfish and destructive actions.
This guy is so confused! He says great things, like he gets it, then he says Mitch cares about institution. SMH
Hey Frank I met you many years ago at the Statler Office Building in Boston... I believe you were consulting for Dukakis. Your good at what you do no one would listen...
If main stream media would just STOP reporting on every fart from Trump he would be left with paid ads, Truth Social and his rallies. Media gives him soooooo much free publicity and a spot light.
This is a perfect example of how out-of-touch these people are.
Frank luntz? Or the politicians he’s speaking about?
@@vt8414 both
@@Justme-jq2np not OP but ok
@@vt8414 Frank of course!!!
No, Mia is right, both.
This guy is a sympathizer. He tried to give Mitch a heart😂
That's a task even god couldn't pull off. lol.
He does have a vote. Everyone does
Right on!
I’d like there to be revenge, but he won’t get convicted. Politics is depressing! 😛
Exactamundo! Frank Luntz: Staged, self-serving, & insincere. Frank Luntz must be made of glass. This clown is so obvious that an eight year old child can see straight through him 😝😝
For as long as you've been involved in politics, Frank, & for as long as the political arena has been jam packed with 100% certified narcissistic two year olds such as Trump, you should've recognized him for what he is from a mile away. Couldn't your blindness be due to the fact that you have at least one personality defect in common with him?
The first piece of laundry that you put in the basket is the last piece that comes out. That’s exactly what happened with the mail and balance.
never trust a guy wearing a suit like that.
Holding someone accountable for crime committed is not the same as revenge.
Exactly !
Half of the crimes community were shielded by Barr.
Hopefully he gets a little justice too !
We will serve you justice after this November's elections.
@@AJCsr what crime?
Sometimes revenge is useful to draw the line in the sand! Donald J Trump needs to face Federal government prosecution!
@@supertech20002 Hmmmm. Really? You left out some names of Demoncrats. Trump was a great President. lol Look at Biden and his administration and you can honestly say that about Trump. Biden has destroyed this Country not Trump.
"We need reconciliation, not revenge."
There can be no reconciliation without accountability.
Who gets to decide what is "wrong" and what should be punished with "accountability"? You and you leftist friends?
@@rgknowlton1 No, the laws should decide and not be let go by your right-winged friends. Trump planned the rally and stoked the flames. Even lied that he'd follow them there.
@@dnate697 I agree. We should enforce riot laws equally across the entire social and political spectrum. Do you agree?
And, can you point to that portion of the president's January 6th speech where he incited violence?
"Reconciliation, not revenge". That maxim never seems to apply when it comes to a black man on death row.
Consequences ? Maybe Frank should have a focus group on that.
"he should have seen it coming" Mr. naive, he did and he loved it!
Sept 29, 2023 we are still asking "why". This video is 100% correct. 91 felony charges and one insurection the gop is still on bended knee to cheeto.
When will Frank have his "Lee Atwater" moment and condemn everything he has done to ruin America?
When he is diagnosed with terminal cancer?
He is a pollster and Lee Ateater was a strategist? Pollsters are lower on the totem pole? Just a thought.
He won't. They're in soul deep
Those moments only come when a person has an inoperable brain tumor.
Can you be specific as to what pollster Frank Luntz has done to ruin America?
I'm sorry but spare me the "we didn't see this coming" nonsense.
Exactly , I think back to Lindsey Grahams accurate description of Trump , along with Ted Cruz's similar citations and Nikki Haley's comments. All warned about Trump but later bent over for his pleasure
THE STATUS QUO IS EVIL
TERM LIMITS MUST OCCUR
CROOKS STAY IN BUSINESS BY BEING THE STATUS QUO
@@donnasanders8410 Why pretend the problem is anywhere but where it is: with Republicans?
aka The Condi Defense. "No one could have foreseen the very thing we warned about."
I remember the whole Benghazi thing... and republicans were all over that.. now trump has done something 1 million times worse and they want people to look the other way and “tone it down” ... hilarious .
why does this feel like a deposition, or a hostile witness situation?
Mitch McConnell loves this country so much he held up Merrick Garland and slid in a handmaiden. Mr Luntz's whole career has been making crappy republican policies sound less crappy by the clever use of catch words. He is responsible for where we are today.
You couldn't see it coming? They had fucking shirts with Civil War 1/6/21.
That's why the media is dying. They're clueless.
😁lol this guy talking is a chump
Many people saw it coming and were unsurprised but they were marginalized up until that point by their peers, then suddenly those same people who were suddenly shocked by what happened started pretending to be experts on fascism after the fact after having spent years poopooing the people that had been warning them all along.
I am a towel from South Park
"Oh no, this horrible monster is out of control. How did this happen?" Dr. Frankenstein
You apparently were not listening to the interview, "Donald Trump gave voice to people who have never had a voice before", in accordance to Frank Luntz. This is why 74 million vote were receive by Donald Trump in the 2020 election.
Right on!
@@andrebliss8206 The point is that these people have been whipped up into a psychotic frenzy since the financial crash of 2008. The Tea Party was the impetuous for Trumpism. It is the same people, with the same issues, radicalized by a certain monied class that wanted to use populism to get the votes necessary to keep their taxes low and to deregulate industries so they can increase profits at the detriment to our health and safety. Frank Luntz was on the cutting edge of how to manufacture a narrative to sell to these people so they would continue to vote against their interests. I used to work in marketing. I know just how these Lutz people work. They find code words and key phrases to get people to open up to them. Trump does this too, but he does it out of a reptilian instinct instead of using psychological principles.
These 74 million have been sold a lemon, they're going for the con, the flimflam. But key to the agenda that is being sold is that it is someone else taking their shit. It is the brown people, or the immigrants, or the women, or the Muslims, or the gay people, all of these groups want to end their culture and take their jobs and educational opportunities. The communist professors are stealing their children and indoctrinating them has changed to the elites are taking babies and farming them for hormones. The crazy started with people like Luntz. Don't pretend that his audience are the forgotten people, they have been running this shit for hundreds of years, and when other people demand equality that feels like oppression if you think you've been in control over it.
@@andrebliss8206 This is the guy who has spent his entire career crafting talking points with the specific intention of riling up conservatives in America. When Obama was working on health care (I have a lot of criticisms about Obama, but I don't have the bandwidth here to get into that), this is the guy who told everybody to refer to it as the much more hostile "Government takeover of healthcare." When people tried to use the "Estate Tax" to ensure the wealthy funded badly needed programs at least one time, Frank began the much more insidious sounding "Death Tax."
This guy did more to create a partisan divide in America than almost anybody. His calling Donald Trump 'divisive' is rich as hell.
What a "moving" sentiment! Reconciliation, not revenge. Luntz is close to 60 years old, so he has been doing his polling games for a while. Where was the GOP's sense of "let's move on" during the Clinton impeachment, for (what seems to me to be) a lesser and more personal infringement? When did any of them say, "Clinton has lied under oath about his personal sex life, but who doesn't"? There was less to reconcile in that case; there were no people dead as a direct result in that case. So, why the double standard? Nah, Luntz is a fraud, in that he is still at heart an apologist for the Republicans, despite his attempted "I'm no Republican any longer" whiteout.
That 50% is living in denial. A similar result will face them again. Smart voters vote in silence and vote wisely.
McCarthy has been surprisingly effective at managing the Republican Conference? That aged well.
I would like to see a new interview with Mr Luntz after the Jan 6th Committee testimonies.
I would very much like to see that interview! Who can we ask to get it done?
Some would like to see Assange testify with immunity what he knew about Seth Rich’s homicide. This was a young man with a lot of potential and a bright future ahead of him. Keep fretting over the J6 stuff. But don’t think we can’t see through it. 😉
@@gapianostudio3988 Seth Rich? 🤷♂️
I’d like to see a new interview after the interview with the head of the chief of police testifying to being kept in the dark by three letter agencies, and Nancy Pelosi and her crew.
I agree. He did an educational group in Arizona about how elections are run,etc.; Georgia's Secretary of State went with him. I was still angry at any and all of them until 2023. Lol. Frank was right.
Dude!!! That’s the problem right there. It’s not revenge it’s accountability.. If that’s how you teach your kids, we are truly in trouble.
I agree with you..Luntz has compassion, which I understand, but accountability is the issue here..this isn't a 2 year old pulling his sister's hair.
Agreed, can't move forward without accountability for crying out loud!
Accountability for what? Nothing illegal was done.this is going to do nothing but start a vicious cycle of going back and forth of executive orders instead of going through Congress like we're supposed to be. Biden said that Trump signed way too many executives and we should be doing it the opposite way and go through Congress yet he signed the most eo's ever for the first week. Biden took away Trump's EO to make sure the epipens were affordable, so Americans can get them for just as cheap as Canada but guess who took that order away?
@@stevepettibone5794 Nothing is happening to the epi-pens. Yes, Biden put a pause on Trump's orders, but the epi-pens will not be affected by virtually anyone who needs one and isn't already rich. And Obamacare open enrollment is extended. (You are aware Trump tried to destroy Obamacare, right? What does the epi-pen thing matter to someone who supported getting ride of healthcare for millions?)
@@stevepettibone5794 The words of a POTUS have power. He used that power to gin up a riotous mob and pointed them in the direction of the Capitol. Besides that, impeachment has no legal thresholds. It's about upholding the standards of the office of the presidency. There has never been a clearer example of conduct unbecoming of the office. People died.
So it’s not that the independent voters were not in between right and left but a huge step to the right over the extreme right. Deeply disturbing.
Unfortunately the Republican Party and Trump voters aren’t done with Trump.
This guy really comes across as someone pretending to be a good guy.
But he’s so terrible at it ... it’s like really dude .. really ? That fake cry ‘what happened to my country’ bs ... Jesus h .. gimme a break
Isn't this the guy who focus grouped the shit out of the Iraq war to drum up support?
@@tomjoad8272 Frank Luntz has been key to selling every atrocious idea coming out of Washington DC for the last 30 years. Luntz said Universal Health Care would lead to "Goverment Death Panels". Luntz sold the US military invasion of Afghanistan in 2001. Luntz sold the US military invasion of Iraq in 2003. Luntz sold tax cuts for the billionaires. Luntz has never met a war he did not like. And now Luntz is "crying for his country". Give me a break.
@@joeblow3990 that's why it is so grating hearing him act so concerned and indignant. What a douche.
@@joeblow3990 He's probably part of the Lincoln project. "never met a war he didn't like" fits their description too.
It’s impossible to have reconciliation without accountability.
Doesn't he know that Antifa and BLM have learned through violent and destructve rioting in Washington State and Oregon, etc., how to insert themselves in the legitimate and constitutional protestors to shift the blame away from themselves?
Accountability first. That is exactly true. It is a distortion to call it "revenge".
Oh. so true, that's why I never accepted the so-called reconciliation in South Africa. There was no accountability.
Oh. so true, that's why I never accepted the so-called reconciliation in South Africa. There was no accountability.
The hate started with racism and xenophobia when you got your black president.
And nobody is listening now sir... but I still wish someone had. Still so current still in 2024😢
Thank You, Sir. I appreciate your vulnerability when you speak about how much you love our country. I feel the same. 🇺🇲
trump gave voice to "people" that are just like him, rude, poorly educated, racist, looking for someone to blame for their short-comings in life,etc etc etc!
We need accountability, transparency and the Truth
You won’t get it from Frank Luntz
@@sandranorman5469 Nor the Biden Administration.
"You can't handle the truth." Sorry, I couldn't resist. A lot of people thought Trump was self-aware enough to say what he needed to get elected and then govern like a business man. He's not a business man. He's a mob boss. He'll snuggle up to you because the thinks he can fool you. And if you challenge him he ridicules and denigrates.
@@chrishooge3442 I don't know about that you only hear things like that from people who are against his ideas in the gender and I may say exactly you know all if you disagree with him but you'd also be talking about most other politicians and even more so the Mitch mcconnell about clintons and the bushes evil think they acted like my bosses they may of just been to make and then allergy the old timers in the mob were little but more quiet they put on a good front then a Gallic John gotti was in your face But at the end of the day you cannot elect someone just based on that personality you gotta look at results look at policy do any of his policies reflect the things people say about him racist misogynist etc.. I look at the actions , the policies officials support and pass bottom line.
Good luck with that!! “We can’t handle the truth”
WHEN SOMEONE DOES SOMETHING WRONG, THEY SHOULD BE PUNISHED FOR IT.
You don't just throw your hands up and say, oh that happened two weeks ago, let's forget about it.
😱😈😇
Apparently you do or Biden would be punished. Severely.
@@Chuck-gd9rr what did President Biden do that needs punishment? Please explain.
but if Trump didn't do as accused, then those accusing falsely should be punished. So far, there's been a lot of false accusations proven wrong.
The guards opened the doors for the "protesters" to come into the capital
On CBC News' coverage of the unlawful uprising that occurred on the grounds of the United States Capitol, Dr. Frank I. Luntz once characterized the state of the American democratic system as 'sick.'
Frank has worked for that side for a long time; he is one of the people that has legitimized this. Now he understands the monster that has been made, or maybe he's just full of shit trying to distance himself from it.
He's full of it.
Trump was chosen at least 4 years before, when Obama was elected.
Think of all the things the TEA PARTY did?
Three Marches To D.C. One was to be an armed march.
The planned shutdown of D.C. with trucks and bikers.
The Militias planned an armed march that was called off.
*Mike Flynn's OPERATION AMERICAN SPRING!*
An Armed Insurrection To Remove Officials From Office At The Barrel Of Weapons/By Force. (Isn't that the same that was attempted on 1/6/21?).
Then came *The Bundy Family Rebellions!*
THE RANCH
THE MINES
THE OREGON WILDLIFE SANCTUARY COMPOUND TAKEOVER!
This is when it became clear to me trump was imvolved.
*"Our Financiers Have Very Very Deep Pockets!"* AMMON BUNDY.
So this guy is obviously telling a lie.
What was very weird was *How All The Republicans Running All Instantly Supported Trump. Cruz and another put on a show as if not supporting him. Romney being the only one that really don't like him.
Nobody fought back.
Trump Was Already Chosen.
"I'm The Chosen One!"
All the lies, bullshit, conspiracies, Racism of the Tea Party?
Is exactly the same bullshit and propaganda that happened with trump.
Has he lost weight? The beard is throwing me
After he said nobody could predict what happened on the 6th?
He revealed himself to us that he did know ahead of time. Probably why they're talking to him.
Another Clue?
*His Tor Beard!*
They're adapting the Norse Gods As Their New Religion.
Everybody want to look like Tor(thor)!
Lying
He's in quite a bit of denial.
That's disgusting that they reacted that way about John McCain.
And the parents of a gold star hero.
It all boils down to racism and trump took full advantage of the widespread racism that fueled the hatred of a man named Obama. Trump has always been a racist. Luntz should put the blame where it belongs because the GOPS got all of this started and made racism ok. Trump has been a public racist all his life and a rabble rouser bsides a criminal as we already know. The entirety of trump supporters are stupid because you cannot be a racist without being revoltingly stupid. I grew up in NYC, I am 1 year older than him. I assure you that there has never been a more hated human being in that city than D.T.
John McCain was a prisoner of the Vietnamese for five years. He was tortured and abused by his captors. YET, ARSEHOLE , F I E N D, TRUMP DENIED MCAIN A HERO? I knew then and there Trump was an American TRAITOR
He was a warmonger.
@@AutismAlternatives But don't forget, Americans approve of war. Mongering or not.
To defend the senate is not to further undermine it. See Supreme Court actions.
I disagree with his opinion on who stirred the pot.
Donald Trump started the riot with his words and the people he delegated to create chaos.
And he never addresses the fact that Trump watched the chaos with excitement, rewatching the most violent acts by his followers on DVR over and over, and refused to lift a finger to stop it for 3 hours. Instead, he tries to peddle that Trump inadvertantly caused something unintended by ignoring that the mood had changed. BS
If he didn't see the siege on the capital coming, he wasn't paying attention.
24:33. "No one saw the danger." Yet all he saw was Democrats (and some Republicans) being "too extreme" for seeing it, saying it, and desperately trying to do something to avoid it 13:58. I don't believe he is an idiot, so what is really going on? More misinformation and spin that tries to blame those that oppose Trump & Trumpism for the ongoing Republican insurgency that is fueled by its own calculated, coordinated misinformation.
The "siege" on the capital was a False Flag event blamed on Trump supporters.
@@leaannsavage2231 yeah I hate when antifa goes out and buys trump merch and supports him for years on social media. Then attends a trump rally and follows his order to march to the capital building to "fight like hell"
Damn antifa
(Lol )
Rubbish
Huh man!!!
"Revenge has never served people well"...Me thinking out loud: So isn't the existence of jails the physical principle of revenge? So no one being unlawful or committing crimes should go to jail? Why one set of standards/principals for politicians and another set for the American people? Isn't a politician part of the American people? 🤔 Hmmmm...eye opening video.
I understand what you're saying, but revenge is not the same as justice.
@@dollymadison2397 reconciliation cannot happen without accountability, and demanding accountability is not demanding "revenge".
@@dollymadison2397 Luntz is conflating justice with "revenge" to make you think obtaining justice is bad. A standard trick, but incredibly obvious given that everyone knows his game.
It's a matter of degrees. Revenge and punishment are different. If you think revenge is beneficial, then explain the middle east. They've been operating on the revenge principle for centuries and the place is a sh*thole.
@@petesmith6213 The middle east hasn't been st war any more than Europe has! The image of some inexplicable centuries-long feud comes from Israeli propaganda meant to excuse their violent seizure of Palestine in 1948.
What an absolutely insightful and balanced interview of our state of politics. My only comment would be that I don't feel that Justice is not revenge . . . . but it is accountability.
It's not about revenge. It's about justice
And justice delayed is justice denied. So far, the American people have been denied justice.
This guy seemed kind of smart until he started going on about how nobody could have predicted what happened on the 6th. That kind of stuff has been happening on a smaller scale in statehouses for the last year.
Amen! I saw it coming! I knew that the rally was going to storm the Capital Building. I knew that Trump would not protect the building or the people inside.
What, when he opened his mouth?
Stand back stand down!
He should go back and listen to tRump from 30 years ago
Also criticizing the democrats for holding Trump accountable saying they were to critical in their rebuke of him, oh yes he's a republican
Frank 'helped' us get to this point. Never forget that.
I agree 💯
All you whites got us here
Yeah...I wish the interviewer has pursued that line of questioning.
@@jamalbell8763 😂😂😂 yeah ok buddy
@@jamalbell8763 I have campaigned for Democrats for decades. The people who got us here are the jerks who are too lazy or stupid to vote. And the ones who overlook utter incompetence of Republicans because they share the racism and greed. Constant recessions, wars based on lies. Constant phony hearings attacking Hillary wasting millions of dollars and years of Congress' time instead of doing their jobs--and voters repay the lies and deceit by reelecting them, giving them money, letting them cheat, disenfranchise people of color as tho this treason is just a political tactic. Those who vote Republican have nearly destroyed our democracy--trashing our Constitution.
Up until minute 54, I could see the presentation of alternative points of view. But, giving the Reps and Senators a free ride from the oath to the constitution is too far. "They were acting on principle" is BS of the highest order. The only principle in place on Jan 6th, in both houses, was how can we deny the people votes and retain the President (Trump).
It's that simple. Frank, it was a good interview, but you are obviously trying to say that opinion "trumps" the law. And that is just not true.
This WHOLE thing, this interview AND January 6th WAS MIND-BLOWING! Thank you to both of you for this AMAZING INTERVIEW!!
It had me hypnotized through out the entire interview. 👍👏
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and guess that your mouth is pretty much open ALL the time, even when you are sleeping.
Yes, this man is still in grief mode. He needs to work thru all the stages of grief until he gets to acceptance of what is. Only then can he help rebuild. Until then, he is basically useless.
😂😂guzzling the Kool-Aid much…PBS is nothing but a gov’t $hitShow
5:35 "2016 was the beginning of my insistence on being accurate, rather than being partisan" haha
“You’ve got to believe me now!”
Bruh
Ha ha, is right!
"I'm not a republican anymore. I'm trying to tell the truth."
Oh, I see how that goes.
Funny coming from the one that taught them how to lie and mislead.
@@kathyd9324 He didn't teach them out to lie. He taught republicans how to appeal to their base. He's a master that I wish was on the democrat's side during the Obama years. Honestly, after Trump won, I learned a lot from Frank Luntz. I thought no matter how flawed Hillary Clinton was, and I'm from NY, any dem candidate to come after Obama would easily win against Trump. And after comparing his tone before and now, he's been really pretty independent. He's been in the trenches too long and after seeing the monster created starting from Sarah Palin, I think he's trying to consult both sides and get us to understand.
@@Scarsofevil Go back further to his early days. He was all about rephrasing intent to make it sound appealing no matter how horrible it was, and how to imply you were doing something other than what you were doing. He was the beginning of Republicans misleading.
@@Scarsofevil Perfect example is the stupid “Defund The Police” phrase. If Dems were more like Republicans they’d chant “Fund The Police” if they want to defund them. Lol The only maybe good thing that came from that phrase is that it might’ve shifted the Overton Window. Defund the Police is “radical” and now with that in the public’s mind, shifting resources away from cops and towards mental health professionals seems incredibly “moderate” in comparison to “Defund The Police.”
@@mikeappleget482 "Defund the police" does NOT come from any Democratic party officials. It comes from a grassroots political movement. So, it is an imperfect example to use. But you are correct in your description of how spin has been used by the GOP to rephrase and distract from real intentions.
It was Steve Bannon, Steven Miller, and Jeff Sessions that made the Trump train happen. Bannon said Trump is an imperfect instrument with piercing armor.
Frank, all this had happened before. It happened in Spain, it happened in Italy, it happened in Germany. What you meant to say was that it had not happened here in the United States, but this country has a long history of bigotry, anti-government sentiment and Fascism (although that last one had been in the shadows for a long time, but it still was there). Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, Father Coughlin were Nazi sympathizers (probably more than sympathizers) and keep in mind that we have had Nazis in this country since WWII. Does Charlottesville ring a bell?