The Myth of Oedipus & the Horror of Self Discovery
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- Опубликовано: 23 июн 2019
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I consider myself a good person, but I've always been afraid of my shadow's potential for evil beyond what I can forgive myself... I also feel in my country people are very unaware of how their behaviour affects their surrondings and other people, which leads to much pain and suffering. We do really need to know ourselves better and reach a higher conscience. Great video!!! Thanx!!!
I watched this play tonight at a real ancient Roman theatre in Spain, and I came back to this video to complete my experience and understanding. Thank you for making it.
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Ooh that line about modern medicine hasn't aged well.
2020 strikes again
Exactly my thoughts
Didn't know the video was that old, to be fair even covid I think in local city scale isn't that terrible as one ancient plague would be.
On the contrary, its aged remarkably well. Its just the unrelenting fear mongering in the media cloaks how amazing our response to COVID actually was (Unrelenting fear mongering and the inability for the media to compare the response to anything resembling reality, rather than their utopian idea of 'how things should be'). You have to understand, Ancient plagues ravaged countries for years sometimes, culling large swaths of the population. We can't be sure how many per capita, but in some cases, depending on disease, it might have been a few percent of the total population (Which is a massive die off) or near complete annihilation (Native Americans) . And this is in a time where the fastest transport was by ship or horse (Relatively low energy utilization for travel--which limits viral vectors significantly).
Compare that to today. Covid, while it did kill a lot of people it's per capita rate of mortality was 1/4 that of the Spanish Flu (And its mortality/Rfactor was close to the spanish flu). In addition, within 15 months of onset, you already have a vaccine that is 95% effective and already 1/3 of large, wealthy nations are inoculated. The virus in most advanced nations is under control. And by year's end should be dropped down to an extremely low mortality. This is despite the fact that our world has exponentially more vectors than an Ancient city, with far more trade, and movement, at far faster rates.
So despite our modern plague being far harder to control--we were able to have far fewer deaths than even century ago, and within 2 years we'll be able to eliminate it in modern countries. That is...astounding. Compare that to something like the Antonian plagues of Rome, where for years seasonal mortality was probably higher than the sum total of COVID and they lasted for more than a decade.
Yes...its VERY fair to say modern medicine (And modern infrastructure, like the ability to simply feed and care for people who can't work) has saved you from ever facing a horror like that in the ancient world. No, it has not eliminated the threat...but its reduced it to the point its not even within the same ballpark.
@@robertb7230 amen
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amazing channel, i've discovered this morning and i've been watching all your videos.
thank you for taking your time and making them.
Your take on the world and this myth is incredible. Thank you for taking the time to create this video sharing!
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It is really a gift to the mind, you are giving out here freely.
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On Oedipus (and many other matters), for another point of view, I humbly recommend you to read René Girard: Things Hidden since the Foundation of the World.
Funny how you are talking about the popculture idea of self-discovery being positive-only and kinda hijacking in nature, evading our negative traits, yet life eventually taught me in a painful way that society had gaslit me into seeing fault in me that wasn't there (but was projected onto me).
And what if all those stories of pleasant self-discovery are specifically many people who needed an adjustment towards the positive, too?
OK, maybe I am too optimistic about that. Self-bullshitting is so very popular and easy that it is probably more likely that especially the people making a big deal out of going on a journey of self-discovery are prone to do that. Hard to say without lots of solid data. But philosophy raises awareness of possibilities, pleasant and unpleasant.
And the Oedipus tale is enlightening in that way. We could ponder how his famed excellence of conduct might have been fueled by an intense fear-driven devotion to evade his personal truth. And then with this in mind we could ponder how this might work for both real and merely imagined character taints.
A society dominated/ruled by fear rewards excellence based on fear, i.e. the most successful people are those who became workaholics as a function of trauma management. This deception is a particularly grim trap, and we see more and more examples of how such deluded actions have the inverse effect, like how certain enviornmentalists are actually great menace upon the biosphere, because they are driven by fear, because they picked an offered belief system suited for fear evasion through whiteknighting.
Thus the easily misunderstood saying: _Save yourself to save the world._
I doubt, though, that this fictional tale reflects real psychology. If he was capable of committing the heinous act, his quest for truth would be part of his guilt trauma denial and thus would probably inherently self-sabotage that quest. I suspect that his trauma evasion psychology could only be combined with a sincere quest for truth all the way if the trauma was inflicted on him by no fault of his own.
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I love your channel. I'm not so sure that Oedipus doesn't want to know himself. He wants to know the truth. He defies all advice that he shouldn't keep going on his quest. Jocasta knows before Oedipus. She just doesn't want to say it. Oedipus says "I will know"> The heroic detective.
yes, he wants to know the truth.
@@vukadinstanisic2498 But since he committed the crime in the first place, we have to assume that his quest for the truth is driven by that trauma denial, part of the overcompensation, and then it would be doubtful that he would ever not self-sabotage that alleged quest for truth.
That kind of psychology, and it is fictional here, after all, might only occur in those who have suppressed trauma inflicted by others, at no fault of their own.
Insightful.
Close your eyes and journey inward.
Thank you for this, reminder of how hubris can blind us to our own faults.
My best friend is obsessed solving "cold case" murders
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Pretty deep!
Tons of subs inbound brother.
I wonder if Tom Waits' song Eyeball Kid is related to this myth....
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Reminds me of the mirror in the never ending story.
Why does his name mean "swollen foot"? That can't be an accident.
I've done a couple bad things; sincerely sorry
Basically we are all scum 😂
How did he kill his father and marry his mother without knowing he did it? xD wtf is this shit.
Psychological guilt trauma suppression.
Although, and I CBA to read up on it in detail, the marriage might have been difficult to conceil from others.
No no no! O did not know of acts and only after would reflect and ask was there a clue. We in modern days are judgemental about cultures long gone. Why not do a critique of the disease that killed the first born or hamlets poisoning merely reflect topics of the era. He was a victim not the perpetrator andone could suggest that he gave up his eyes as a token of self blame for not seeing all before hand. But that is retrospective. Did mama know as one would expect and did he not sense it was mama or did this all happen in a limbo state in the galaxy. Sir you wasted your time applying artificial reason to a soppy tale of centuries gone by.