Yeah as a geek I watched & enjoyed every second! Why because I didn't just want the solution to the problem (USB 3.0 hub), I wanted to understand it (connecting a HUB directly to the chipset USB socket using the SS HDD protocol cable) and that is why next time I come across something similar in the future I can save some time. That is the difference between someone smart and someone who thinks they are smart... WANTING TO UNDERSTAND AND LEARN!!!!!!
@@cjd-vo4mh no, no, no. it's all about the situation, and whether you are in the mood to learn, or in the mood to solve a problem right away. just because someone doesn't want to hear a lecture about the history of USB BEFORE getting to the solution they cam for, doesn't mean they won't want to learn at other times. Saying this makes someone dumb, is like this: GUY 1: i'm at the bomb disposal site. how do i disable the bomb? GUY 2: *gives an explanation of the history of bomb making* GUY 1: that's great, but I really just want to solve this problem right now. YOU: Man, you're so uninterested in learning! How dumb! Then everyone explodes. You don't get to decide how valuable someone else's time is, and it's unwise to judge someone's entire character based on how they want to do something RIGHT THIS SECOND. This video was more about describing the problem, which is fine, but the title should reflect it. and having a tldr section at the beginning, then the longer explanation, satisfies everyone. the appropriate title should be "WHY You Sometimes Get USB 3 Copy Speeds + Possible Solution"
I enjoyed your explanation very much. It did take a while to get to the final point but I thought the background information was quite enlightening. Cheers!
@@shinnyspace it means you will have to choose "eject" to safely remove the media or it may become corrupted. It's a worthwhile measure to get the best speeds for USB flash drives.
Yeah! Buy a USB 3.0 Hub. Shame to listen to 10 mins of history before getting to the real solution. One reason why I speed read. How to speed read a video? :)
Felt like I was in the room with you as friends. Yeah, already know some of those things including the solution. But, it was still good and friendly. Thanks!
My speed is up and down all the time. I'm transfering between USB 3.0 External HDDs and its a lot better in the back but no where near what he said with a write speed of +200MB/s. More like 75max and drops into the Kilobyte range sometimes. Agreed a little long winded but not bad, was kinda interesting.
Mine are exactly the same. Starts high and then down to kilobytes. They are usb 3 to usb 3 ports and yet they are painfully slow. They are the name brands like patriot and sandisk too. I just don’t get it
Also keep in mind that if you are writing to a SD card (or microSD card), the speed that is printed on the color box is READ speed. The actual Write Speed is much lower. Example, Class 10 SD card is supposed to be only Max 10Mb/s, however in reality, for example, SanDisk Ultra only gets me 7-8MB/s. SanDisk Extreme gets me approx 20MB/s( and it is more expensive). Regular Samsung SD card gets me 8-9MB/s, but Samsung EVO microSDHC I gets me 21MB/s.
updated about SD card, for HD recording & camera use, better choose UHS-I (U1) = at least 20MB/s, if you choose UHS-I (U3), the write speed can be at least 40MB/s, max 90MB/s. Then, if you move up to UHS-II, you will be seeing 80MB/s write speed to max 190MB/s write speed. *according to this video, pay attention to which port on the USB 3.0 card reader is faster or with UHS-I/UHS-II support. ruclips.net/video/KwiJBi3Thxo/видео.html
This video was more about describing the problem, which is fine, but the title should reflect it. and having a tldr section at the beginning, then the longer explanation for those who want to learn more, satisfies everyone. the appropriate title should be "WHY You Sometimes Get USB 3 Copy Speeds + Possible Solution"
IN SUMMARY: Use ports on back of your mobo, not the front panel connector as its controlled by its own chip and much slower. I just tested this and got 68 MB/s instead of 32MB/s when copying a movie to a usb stick.
cache write the drive by right click properties hardware (pick your drive if u have more than 1) properties again, change settings, policy and pick what you want hmmmm only took 30 seconds to write this and it didn't take a video my friend also when you format a hd format it for ready boost if you can and the speeds will be good also there is always someone trying to sell you a program to help with speeds tell them to blow it out their ass Windows has settings to fix the rate of transfer up to 512 mb a sec on an IDE and up to 2 to 4 GB a sec on 3.0 pending the drive, we are being held back by a wall of TECHNO BULLSHIT and people capitalizing on our dismay by making 10 year videos to fix a 30 sec problem hence cell phones we are still buying cellphones with limited data why in china they start out with 1 tb drives on the phone itself and have wayyyyy better graphics on their phones that we are not allowed to have here.
Thanks for this. I have been frustrated with some USB 3.0 hubs performance however. Finally I tried a very inexpensive one from Monoprice that came with its own power source, and the speed from my USB 3.0 flash drives is the same, wether connected directly to port, or powered hub. The majority of hubs that I tried that relied on bus power, greatly reduced the speed of my drives, even if the drives had their own power source.
Need to go to disk Management, then drives then select whatever drive it's hooked into the USB 3.0 Port go to properties and change the setting 2 performance. Will blow your mind the differences in speed you get. Just need to always make sure you safely eject your hardware if you're doing it this way
My external hard drive and laptop are 14.4 mb/second. Is this to slow or faster? I just take a part and found the motherboard and i can't find that back connector 😭😭😭😭😭
I know this is an old comment but for anyone else wondering that sounds like it started fast then slowed because you filled the drive's cache and now you are being limited by the actual write speeds of the drive
i still dont get any speed more then 50mps even from the back USB 3.0 ports of my (Asus Essentio CM6730 Desktop motherboard) can someone please help me out ?
I was having trouble with fancy cameras plugged into USB3 ports in a LabView program. Now I know not all USB3 ports are created equal. Thanks for the info.
I have an issue where I bought two identical expensive 3.1 drives at the same time. I formatted both the exact same way and first used only one of the two. I noticed jumps all over the place, first fast, then slow, then after a while it bumps up a bit for a short while before going slow again, rinse and repeat. I thought it was just how these were supposed to be, maybe they overheat despite being made of metal with great heat dispersion properties. I'm talking about peaks of 60mb/s but mostly low at 10-15mb/s. These are supposed to be very expensive and quite fast drives and I have a rather new super premium laptop. Then later I used the other drive and it's giving me a stable 50-60mb/s depending on file type. Always. No dips. Now I'm starting to suspect one of the drives are defective and might just bring it back to the shop to have it replaced. Maybe I'll try to reformat it despite them being formatted the same way before doing so though. But it's easy to try blaming software or hardware outside of the drive or just claim it's supposed to be like that when they might actually be defective. Unlike many other things, it's kinda hard to tell with an usb drive. Is it defective or is something wrong somewhere else?
You perfectly described my problem, however in my case it is a laptop a Asus Zenbook UX-31E. I have USB 3, it used to work great with my usb 3 pen-drive, but at some point speed just fall a lot. My PC have usb 2 and I get around 32mb/s while in my laptop on both usb 2 and usb 3 ports I only get around 18mb/s! Driving me crazy. 4 hours to backup my phone! Nothing seems to work.
You may have lucked out and gotten a laptop with a non-standard USB 3 chip. There was a huge problem with USB 3 when it first backup popular. In short, the standards weren't finalized, so different USB 3 implementations did different things... Couple that with driver issues, and you have a Big Mess.
old vid...don't care. history good. Fix..Not present. Boiling a pan of water does not fix a none boiling kettle. It could be, motherboard jumper/switch not in correct position, Or bios usb 3 mode disabled(defaults to usb2), Or bios usb3 pcie lane allocation. Or maybe like in your usb2 vid they used slower cheaper flash. Sometimes things don't ship in the optimal configuration and sometimes even the default/optimal settings don't have the settings you want enabled.
I was just now copying 349 albums from my laptop to a Samsung Fit+ (USB 3.1, supposed to be "up to 400MB/s"). The USB stick is blue, the USB port on the Dell dock (plugged into the laptop via USB-C/Thunderbolt) is blue. It ran about 55MB/s the whole way. Faster than when I had a laptop without USB 3.x, but still disappointing. It's a Dell Latitude 5501 that's supposed to have built-in USB 3.1, but neither of them is blue.
The plot thickens! With my new motherboard, I can connect one USB stick to USB port A and get 240 MB/s. But if I plug in to port B it's much slower. In contrast, if I plug my external USB hard drive (mechanical) into port A, I get really pokey speeds - yet it goes at about 50MB/s if I stick it in port B. USB port A is Intel's integrated USB, and port B is an add-on USB chip on the motherboard. So in short, it's hit or miss these days even with USB 3.1.
copying pdfs (150kb to 5mb size -80gb total mixed) from portable hdd (connected to front) to pen drive (connected at back) using usb 3.0 in win 7 64 bit and getting 2MB/s - usb3.0 devices - pendrive formatted to NTFS. explain that - machine is a 1 year old Dell CAD workstation so fast
That will always be pokey since the portable HDD is slower reading tons of files and copying them one at a time. To get a real idea of max performance, you'd have to copy 1 large 80GB file. Even when I do that kind of multi-file copy with 'known zippy devices/ports', it still slows WAAAY down. Still, it could be a driver and/or device issue with 1 of the USB ports. I'm assuming of course than the portable HDD is a mechanical drive, not an SSD...
With the Z690, I get WILDLY different results depending on which USB port I use. Some drives must use the front USB (type A) port. Others, the rear USB A ports. And of course my super-fast external SSD must use USB-C, rear port. What a mess!!!!
I noticed some ports stop when I have my phone plugged in the back with 3.0 cable. A video said disable legacy on USB in BIOS and that worked for a couple of the ports, must be only associated with those. I have 1tb NVMe WD black and 1tb NVMe blue. Those speeds are crazy, lol. But ya, I know what you mean, all the different types of ports.
Does not work for me, I have the same USB extender u have from TP-link, all ports USB 3.0, and my USB Flash driver is USB 3.0 Aswell, Went into "device manager" and put it on "high performance" restarted computer but I still get speeds at 20-30mb/s copy speeds, I honestly have no idea what to do! and yes i am copying from an SSD to USB 3,0 Flash drive.
Did you try going into device manager, find the drive that's slow, right click, go to properties and change it to best performance? This works on all the slow front and back ports on usb 3.0.
I plug my USB 3.0 directly into the motherboard and it's still *10MB/sec. But I plug an expensive SSD with 3.0 into the ports that are connected to the non-Intel headers on the motherboard, I get at least 10x faster data transfer.
i have tried everything but even today in 2020 the usb transfer is slow...i actually have dual boot win7 preinstalled and win 10...same usb 3 portable harddrive goes over 100mbps and in win 10...there is initial spike of speed and then it goes horrendously low .....all drivers are installed...
I conecct my samsung j7 to usb3 and my speed is only 29mb\s where is the problem. I bay pci expres to usb3 and conect ssd--same problem only 29 mb\s. hmmm im ungry
The same exact thing happened to me a few days ago. It used to work fine but then both usb 3 ports in my front panel would only work at usb 2 speeds. After quite a lot of fiddling turns out my problem was... dirt. I cleaned the connectors with 96º alcohol and a toothbrush and voila, back to usb 3 speeds.
@@ScottiesTech Yeah. Of course that doesn't 100% prove dirt was my issue, maybe I just happened to bend a pin in the connector just right while brushing it, I don't know, it's a sample of one and there could be a number of other potential causes, but it's worth a try I guess. Now, if someone in your audience is experimenting a similar issue and wants to give this a go, we should probably advise them to use proper contact cleaner instead of being a hack like me, haha. In my case this is an old machine and I gave it a few minutes to make sure moisture was gone by the time I turned the computer back on, but still.
I knew I wasn't imagining stuff, I felt that the usb flash drives copying speed got worse since the windows update, but I saw no one talk about that problem, so I was like "was this always like this?" but now at least I can confirm this. Still. I have an awful copying speed, it goes from 50mb to 1mb, and I'm lucky if it stabilizes itself at 10mb.
I have a new motherboard now, so things have changed. For some USB3 devices, I get max copy speed via a USB3 hub plugged into a read USB3 port. But for 1 USB3 card reader and (believe it or not) an older 2.5" portable HDD, I only get max speeds using the USB3 port on the FRONT of my puter. I guess we might as well just roll the dice, pick a port, and then try again. It's so random sometimes.
@@ScottiesTech I'm right now trying to copy some files to a 3.0 usb stick from a 3.0 usb external hard drive, and it's baffling to see the copying speed drop from 50mb to 1mb. And both are plugged on the usb ports from the back, it's insane and honestly makes me angry and sad, because it feels like a scam coming from Windows, (they are legit products so I know I didn't bought some crap lmao)
Do you have any insight on USB 3.1? I have motherboard with USB 3.1 support and devices with USB 3.1 support but I cant achieve anything higher then 400-500MB read and writes. I have tried various speed tests, transferring varies files and it never goes above 500MB speeds.
400 MB/s is an absolute lie. I would like to see a video of that. Even my Samsung 850 Pro SSD doesn't transfer that fast. This video is filled with false information.
USB 3.0 is max 625 MB/s, USB 3.1 is 1250 MB/s, and USB 3.2 is 2500 MB/s. Those are theoretical max speeds. Real world speeds are lower (like 400 MB/s practical for USB 3.0) due to overhead in the USB protocols. The reason you don't usually see those speeds is because of the (slow) device connected, the USB interface itself, driver issues, Windows issues, and even the type of data being copied. Copying 1 large file to a USB 3 mem stick can be very fast, but copying 3000 files/folders will be VERY slow. Samsung even makes external SSDs using USB 3.2 that have a max read speed of 1050 MB/s. But there again (like your 850 Pro), that depends on if it's a read, write, and even what KIND of read/write you're doing (random, sequential, and so on). In the case of SSDs, it also depends on where the file(s) you are copying to/from the SSD are located. If they're on a normal HDD, the slower transfer rate of the HDD is the limiting factor. Or, if you transfer files from another SSD on a computer on your local 1 Gbps Ethernet LAN, then the Ethernet limits the copy to ~112 MB/s. Even SSD -> SSD copies can slow down depending on the files being transferred. As for fast USB sticks, I did a vid on that: ruclips.net/video/iydlU4PPQbI/видео.html My fav currently is the USB 3.1 Samsung Extreme PRO 128GB. A 2GB movie file can be written to the stick at 276 MB/s, and read back at 327 MB/s. The Many File/Folder test was much slower: 66 write, 97 MB/s read.
@@ScottiesTech My USB 3.0 Flash Cards from Sandisk, Kinston, and PNY might "start" at 40MB MB/S for about one or two seconds, but then it drops down to tiny curves ranging from less than 1MB/s (literally kilobytes per second), and going to 2, 4, 6, 8 ,10 MB/s, and then back down to 8, 6, 4, 2, 0 MB/s. It took me over two hours to fill up a 64GB card when I recently transferred multiple video files ranging from 200MB in size up to 3GB in size. I tried this is both "Quick" mode and "Better Performance" mode. I also tried it in both NTFS and exFAT. I also tried this in the "Default" size, and the smallest size, and the largest size when I formatted the USB 3.0 cards multiple times. Nothing mattered. Also, I tried switching over to a different computer. So that way I was using the "rear port" of a desktop PC rather than the "side port" of a laptop. It was still super slow. And those USB cards didn't even allow a checkmark to be put in "write cache." You could select "Better performance," but not "write cache." The fact is, these USB cards from manufacturers such as Sandisk, Kingston, and PNY are truly terribly slow. They are virtually worthless when transferring large files such as videos. At this point you can buy a 128GB or 256GB SSD for about the same price as a USB 3.0 USB Flash Drive. So, it makes better sense to just buy a small cable to connect the SSD and use it externally to connect to your computer or TV. BOTTOM LINE: USB 3.0 Flash Drives are SLOOOOWWW and worthless when you need to fill them with lots of data. It takes HOURS to do so.
@@michaelzoran There's a bottleneck somewhere... I just wrote an article about this: scottiestech.info/2020/10/06/how-to-get-more-speed-from-your-usb-drives/ I've had laptops and desktops that required a BIOS update and/or driver update to get full speed from USB 3 ports. The standards changed a lot and there was actually some mayhem that occurred because end users weren't getting the promised speeds. The problem was the result of some change in the standard that Intel didn't share earlier enough. Most manufacturers released new drivers or firmware updates that fixed the problem - some didn't. If it's not the cards, then it could be the card reader. Even using the wrong USB 3 hub can slow things down. I had a Belkin USB 3 hub for awhile and I was wondering why I wasn't getting higher transfer rates... First, I found a new USB 3 driver on the Asus web site. Okay, that'll fix it! Nope - still slow... Turns out it was the frickin' USB HUB I was using!!! I nearly flipped my lid. Bought a TP-Link USB 3 hub, and that one actually works. Anyway, the first thing I would do is get a fast USB stick that you know can handle ridiculous copy speeds... Then plug that directly into the USB 3 port on the puter. If you don't get fast speeds, check drivers, BIOS updates, etc. To test, do a copy of a single large file (2GB) from a fast drive (SSD preferably). Once that's working, then switch to the card reader or whatever other gizmo you're using and test that. It may be seriously annoying, but you CAN get faster speeds.
@@michaelzoran My Patriot Rage sustains writes at 450 MB/s. Ejects immediately. Stop buying cheap thumb drives. 95% of their capacity is QLC Flash which is cheap, dense, and _slowww._
none of my USB ports have blue on them yet my Alienware r3 says all 4 of my ports are USB 3.0 with 1 type c port one has powered to it idk so which is faster type c or USB 3?
@ScottiesTech.Info what if I plug the front panel add-on to a 19pin port from a PCIe board will that work? Many usb 3.0 port addage come with an extra 19pin header port? Will I get my speeds if I plug it there?
@@ScottiesTech Splendid, so if I understand, even if the default front panel is plugged in the default 3.0 header on my Asus motherboard. If I buy an additional front panel and plug it in a added 3.0 headed via PCI or PCIe, Both the new front pannel and the old (default) will work, with the exception that the new added front panel will be faster because coming from pcie. THis will give me in total 4 usb 3.0 ports
i only get 120 to 150 from USB 3 copy backup hard drive it has blue end were get they idea 600 meg speed i never get that high either away wight or read .
if you plug more of those thumb drives into the hub, is each one going to get that read write speed, or will the recipe that read write speed between them?
Usually, they all do. There are some USB3 ports connected to the chipset, and others connected to a USB3 chip added to the motherboard (if it has tons of ports). If I need gobs of USB3 bandwidth, I usually add a PCI-E USB3 card to add more ports.
@ScottiesTech.Info Mr Scotties, I recently noticed that my HDD appeared to show errors, until I tried them on different usb 3.0 ports and different computer altogether, and now have no issue. I tended to hear a Beep sound and the drive trying to spin but failing to. Is that a sign that my USB 3.0 ports have lost power? Is that something that occurs over time? My Asus motherboard is 5 years old now. I decided to buy a voltage usb tester witch will arrive soon, and a powered hub too. Anything that I can do to troubleshoot? Except the power measurement? What should I look at, the voltage and or the amps? One thing I can obviously try is to remove all the usb drivers and let windows install them.
The external harddrive is a 2.5 standard usb 3.0 from wd passport. Brand new. It also occured with another brand new drive from a non name brand. And also a 5 years old wd drive. I did find one port that seems fine for now.
Sometimes manufacturers get a bit cheap with power on USB ports... The voltage may be fine, the amount of current that can be supplied to all USB ports may be more limited than one would hope. It should be each pair of USB ports have max rated current, but sometimes it can be max current rating for 4 ports. Or, it could be that 1 or more ports just don't supply enough current. OR, the ports are 'dying'. You could be able to get around that problem with a powered USB 3 hub. Just make sure that the powered hub has an AC adapter. That way, the current supplied is coming from the hub and not the puter. That should do the trick!
@@ScottiesTech thank you. I measured and it is 4.3 Volts for about 3000 amps for the faulty ports whilst the healthy ones are 4.9 to 5v for 2000 to 4000 amp. . The faulty usb the drive cannot boot and tries to spin but keeps failing. Is it that bellow 4.9 is not enough for the 2.5 external wd drive?
Get a better USB stick. Like a SanDisk Extreme, or a Patriot Rage. Cheap USB 3 drives slow down because they have a tiny SLC cache to reach advertised speeds, but once that fills up in a large transfer it switches to the slow/dense QLC flash.
Nice Info. Have you seen the same issue with addon pci cards aswel? MY computer does not have USB 3.0(yep its old, stable and reliable) so i got an cheap USB 3.0 card and installed. But I cannot seem to get more than USB 2.0 speeds...
You may need a specific USB 3 driver from your motherboard/puter manufacturer then. The default Windows ones don't always work. Not sure about linux, but usually everything just works on that front.
@@flameshana9 Yeah, it can be lots of fun. If it's a full computer purchased from somebody like Dell, then you'd search for the model number on their web site in the supports/drivers section and see if there's a specific USB 3 driver available. Or, you'd have to know the motherboard make and model (usually printed on the board itself). Then go to the manufacturer's web site and search for mobo model number. Companies like Asus that make motherboards typically release new drivers to fix issues with, say, a Win 10 update, but they don't actually notify you of their availability. In both cases, you just download the driver and run the installer. It's pretty safe and painless - except for actually finding the driver!
Great info, you and your tribble are very smart. I like the USB history and the solution you found. However, your voice puts me to sleep every time I watch video.
I need a solution for otg android hard drives, it goes only up to 30MB but most times 20MB beside the cables are all came with the external USB c android compatible transcend hard drive.
That one's tricky... It could be the USB chip, driver, speed of the Transcend drive... but most likely, the limiting factor is the flash memory in the Android gizmo itself. It's usually not super-fast in most devices.
Do you know a easy method maybe, how I could make from my new hdd transcend 4TB Drive ( have usb c and A cables included) maybe a easy direct WiFi backup storage or similar for faster file transfair without much work, becourse I can't handle in the moment much complicated stuff, I'm disabled and under much pain, becourse of my sicknesses, but have bought now, (after many years this hd drive) , this I hope good hdd external drive wher people told me that they are using it for over 10years without problems. Sorry for my confusing and not correct English writing, it's also not my first, Language more the 3th. Maybe it would be a good new video idea to help people that have problems too, to get easyer backups from ther phones to a drive, I have only 2.6GB left and have to delete any newer pictures ect to keep my phone running without Tribble. Proberly i should have long time ago done backups but with al my health problems and this days it's not easys, that it takes years to come to the point. Beside my hdd drive is Transcend 4 TB USB Type-C Rugged Portable Hard Drive - Shock Resistant USB 3.1 Gen 1 StoreJet TS4TSJ25M3C Long time storage are much safer some one told in a video on yt on new hdd drives that ssd, wher no one knows how long the hold. I can also understand if no one could help me of time reason or other things. Also I'm not capable to buy expensive stuff to get to the point. Kind Regards 🖖 This was my info video on backup storages. ruclips.net/video/MFUcGME-A4A/видео.html
Is it normal for copy speed to be 12-24mb per second if the file your copying is many? I copied a series that's 4.4gb and has 9 episodes. And it takes 4 minutes. But if I copy like 1 file that's 1gb it takes like a minute.
For a slow USB stick, that's about normal. While copying a ton of files/folders is slower than copying 1 big file (for example), when you're dealing with, say, episodes of some show the difference is much smaller. In your case, you're copying either 1 or 9 large files. So then the biggest factor is the large size of each file. If 4.4GB takes 4 minutes, that's about 18.3 MB/s. 1GB would then take about 54.5s.
I plug my SanDisk 32GB USB3 in a USB3 hub in the back of my pc (directly into motherboard USB3) but still write at around 20 MB/s (160ish megabit) and read at 133MB/s (1100ish Megabit). Is this due to slow USB storage device? That is an issue not covered (much) in the video; the fact that various drives have lower write speed. I have another Sandisk 64GB USB writes at 32 MB/s and reads at 150MB/s. Used to buy Kingston drives, but apparently they are super slow...
Doing everything you said I get a whopping 20mb/s read and 40mb/s write on USB 3.1 on an AMD Ryzen 7 chip with 64gb DDR 4 memory. Anything else it could be?
Assuming the USB 3.1 gizmo actually supports higher read/write speeds, then drivers. And sometimes, manufacturers don't release updated drivers to fix slow transfer rates, which is not nice.
Is it a USB3 port that's directly connected to the motherboard, or a USB port in an add-in slot like where PCI-E cards would go? If it's a built-in mobo port, then I'd prolly check for an updated USB3 driver from the mobo maker. That'll usually fix it good.
I had usb 3.2 on my mobo.giga b550m ds3h. And my girlfriend give me a pendrive. Cuz my pc faster and much better than her laptop. So i download movies - copy pendrive than plug on tv. The pendrive is a sandisc 32gb // USB 3.1 Plug / USB 3.1 Type-C Plug //. At the first times i copy the files with 60-65mb / sec. Now max 25mb / sec. And i dont know why.. why ??
That can happen if an OS update overwrites the USB drivers. You might be able to fix it by seeing if there are updated drivers from the motherboard manufacturer's web site. In some cases, you can't fix it - except using a different USB port.
@@ScottiesTech im used first times revi Os / custom win 10. Than later i upgrade it full. Cuz my 4750g igpu a lot times had black screen error. So had a huge chance about you right. I will turn off windows update / win driver installs. I will remove all drivers with ddu than install from giga site. I will tell what happen later. Thanks! I wish the bests for you.
I fell asleep twice.....but woke up in time to hear use rear usb on board. Thanks fr the info.
This guy is the Bob Ross of tech. Both have soothing voices.
We don't make mistakes when playing with techie stuff. We just have happy little accidents.
You put him on if you cant sleep it works great thx
Does he paint 🎨?
You should have started with how computers are invented.
shush, he knows more about computers than you ever will...
😂😂😂
@@david808323 talk about yourself cretin.??
@@david808323 - You sounds like his fan :D
I agree, I wanted to hear more about the abacus tech.
I actually liked the verbose version of why usb 3 ports can be slow...now I fully understand why this is happening. Thank-you for making this video.
was here looking for a fix but got a lot of information thank you for the trivia and history I loved it
OMG! Video - 15 mins. Fix explanation - 10 seconds. Don’t use front, use rear. Get a hub.
How many times did everyone fall asleep?
within the first 10 secs. Good info but not what I came here for.
Came to make the exact same comment. Great stuff, but not what I was looking for from the title.
Yeah as a geek I watched & enjoyed every second! Why because I didn't just want the solution to the problem (USB 3.0 hub), I wanted to understand it (connecting a HUB directly to the chipset USB socket using the SS HDD protocol cable) and that is why next time I come across something similar in the future I can save some time. That is the difference between someone smart and someone who thinks they are smart... WANTING TO UNDERSTAND AND LEARN!!!!!!
@@cjd-vo4mh no, no, no. it's all about the situation, and whether you are in the mood to learn, or in the mood to solve a problem right away. just because someone doesn't want to hear a lecture about the history of USB BEFORE getting to the solution they cam for, doesn't mean they won't want to learn at other times. Saying this makes someone dumb, is like this:
GUY 1: i'm at the bomb disposal site. how do i disable the bomb?
GUY 2: *gives an explanation of the history of bomb making*
GUY 1: that's great, but I really just want to solve this problem right now.
YOU: Man, you're so uninterested in learning! How dumb!
Then everyone explodes.
You don't get to decide how valuable someone else's time is, and it's unwise to judge someone's entire character based on how they want to do something RIGHT THIS SECOND.
This video was more about describing the problem, which is fine, but the title should reflect it. and having a tldr section at the beginning, then the longer explanation, satisfies everyone.
the appropriate title should be "WHY You Sometimes Get USB 3 Copy Speeds + Possible Solution"
Is that all it is? I've been doing that for years and its still below 10MB/s for any file over 3gb
I enjoyed your explanation very much. It did take a while to get to the final point but I thought the background information was quite enlightening. Cheers!
Yes me too, wathced all the way through. Very good foundation knowledge to USB 3.0
Since most people are already plugging into the right spot, check device manager and make sure write caching is on for the drive.
it says don't check this if you're not wanna loose data (?)
@@shinnyspace it means you will have to choose "eject" to safely remove the media or it may become corrupted. It's a worthwhile measure to get the best speeds for USB flash drives.
Scotties Solution: 9:55
Appreciate it.
Yeah! Buy a USB 3.0 Hub. Shame to listen to 10 mins of history before getting to the real solution. One reason why I speed read. How to speed read a video? :)
THANK YOU! I'm trying to move some files and dont have time for a history lesson.
Go to Settings --> Speed --> 1.5x or 2x
@@GeekRedux yes, but a 1 minute video at 2x speed is 30 seconds. a 10 minute vid at 2x speed is still 5 minutes - still unnecessarily long.
Thanx, that helped. I also want to say that cable lenght of a usb 3 hub is critical. With long cables the speed drops dramatically
So many dislikes, typical in age when people don't want to be educated and want to stay clueless and ignorant.
Felt like I was in the room with you as friends. Yeah, already know some of those things including the solution. But, it was still good and friendly. Thanks!
My speed is up and down all the time. I'm transfering between USB 3.0 External HDDs and its a lot better in the back but no where near what he said with a write speed of +200MB/s. More like 75max and drops into the Kilobyte range sometimes. Agreed a little long winded but not bad, was kinda interesting.
Mine are exactly the same. Starts high and then down to kilobytes. They are usb 3 to usb 3 ports and yet they are painfully slow. They are the name brands like patriot and sandisk too. I just don’t get it
i got an 2019 usb 3 stick and use it with a USB 3 Port from 2017 and it gives me max. 4mb/s. NIce.
Also keep in mind that if you are writing to a SD card (or microSD card), the speed that is printed on the color box is READ speed. The actual Write Speed is much lower. Example, Class 10 SD card is supposed to be only Max 10Mb/s, however in reality, for example, SanDisk Ultra only gets me 7-8MB/s. SanDisk Extreme gets me approx 20MB/s( and it is more expensive). Regular Samsung SD card gets me 8-9MB/s, but Samsung EVO microSDHC I gets me 21MB/s.
updated about SD card, for HD recording & camera use, better choose UHS-I (U1) = at least 20MB/s, if you choose UHS-I (U3), the write speed can be at least 40MB/s, max 90MB/s. Then, if you move up to UHS-II, you will be seeing 80MB/s write speed to max 190MB/s write speed. *according to this video, pay attention to which port on the USB 3.0 card reader is faster or with UHS-I/UHS-II support. ruclips.net/video/KwiJBi3Thxo/видео.html
This video was more about describing the problem, which is fine, but the title should reflect it. and having a tldr section at the beginning, then the longer explanation for those who want to learn more, satisfies everyone.
the appropriate title should be "WHY You Sometimes Get USB 3 Copy Speeds + Possible Solution"
IN SUMMARY: Use ports on back of your mobo, not the front panel connector as its controlled by its own chip and much slower. I just tested this and got 68 MB/s instead of 32MB/s when copying a movie to a usb stick.
I still find that my speed drops right down to about 28mbs even when I use the back hubs
me too
cache write the drive by right click properties hardware (pick your drive if u have more than 1) properties again, change settings, policy and pick what you want hmmmm only took 30 seconds to write this and it didn't take a video my friend also when you format a hd format it for ready boost if you can and the speeds will be good also there is always someone trying to sell you a program to help with speeds tell them to blow it out their ass Windows has settings to fix the rate of transfer up to 512 mb a sec on an IDE and up to 2 to 4 GB a sec on 3.0 pending the drive, we are being held back by a wall of TECHNO BULLSHIT and people capitalizing on our dismay by making 10 year videos to fix a 30 sec problem hence cell phones we are still buying cellphones with limited data why in china they start out with 1 tb drives on the phone itself and have wayyyyy better graphics on their phones that we are not allowed to have here.
@@themaximusone Changing properties in device manager also didn't help.
A great video and superb explanation, this has been annoying me for ages. Thank you Scottie. Have a blessed day!
Thanks for this. I have been frustrated with some USB 3.0 hubs performance however. Finally I tried a very inexpensive one from Monoprice that came with its own power source, and the speed from my USB 3.0 flash drives is the same, wether connected directly to port, or powered hub. The majority of hubs that I tried that relied on bus power, greatly reduced the speed of my drives, even if the drives had their own power source.
Nevermind, The 20 Terabyte file transfer over Serial RS232 completed before the video ended. Thanks :)
USB 1.1 at 1 MB/s? Here I am USB 3.0 at 1.35 MB/s. Years later and generations later only gained 1/3 MB/s speed. Someone needs to be shot
Never knew about an actual USB 3.0 driver for an add-on chipset -- good to know!
Need to go to disk Management, then drives then select whatever drive it's hooked into the USB 3.0 Port go to properties and change the setting 2 performance. Will blow your mind the differences in speed you get. Just need to always make sure you safely eject your hardware if you're doing it this way
I plugged my usb 3 flash drives into the back and there was very little change in speed, maybe 20mb
I plugged my external SSD into the port labeled SS and it started reading Mein Kampf at only 46MB/s :(
Wtf man
My external hard drive and laptop are 14.4 mb/second.
Is this to slow or faster?
I just take a part and found the motherboard and i can't find that back connector
😭😭😭😭😭
i am currently transferring my 100GB over two USB 3.0 drives and it has slowed to 1MB a sec. Using the only two USB 3.0 ports this laptop has.
I know this is an old comment but for anyone else wondering that sounds like it started fast then slowed because you filled the drive's cache and now you are being limited by the actual write speeds of the drive
For your kind information
i still dont get any speed more then 50mps even from the back USB 3.0 ports of my (Asus Essentio CM6730 Desktop motherboard) can someone please help me out ?
Try changing the cable
I was having trouble with fancy cameras plugged into USB3 ports in a LabView program. Now I know not all USB3 ports are created equal. Thanks for the info.
Does a USB 3.0 hub on a computer with USB 3.2 port throttle the speed of a 3.1 or 3.2 flash drive to 3.0 or downward from its potential speed?
Yes. Also beware certain USB 3.1 hubs that advertise 5 Gbit/s speeds. USB 3.1 should support 10 Gbit/s.
I have an issue where I bought two identical expensive 3.1 drives at the same time. I formatted both the exact same way and first used only one of the two. I noticed jumps all over the place, first fast, then slow, then after a while it bumps up a bit for a short while before going slow again, rinse and repeat. I thought it was just how these were supposed to be, maybe they overheat despite being made of metal with great heat dispersion properties. I'm talking about peaks of 60mb/s but mostly low at 10-15mb/s. These are supposed to be very expensive and quite fast drives and I have a rather new super premium laptop. Then later I used the other drive and it's giving me a stable 50-60mb/s depending on file type. Always. No dips. Now I'm starting to suspect one of the drives are defective and might just bring it back to the shop to have it replaced. Maybe I'll try to reformat it despite them being formatted the same way before doing so though. But it's easy to try blaming software or hardware outside of the drive or just claim it's supposed to be like that when they might actually be defective.
Unlike many other things, it's kinda hard to tell with an usb drive. Is it defective or is something wrong somewhere else?
This whole video was awesome somebody call a YTP expert
thank you for full explanation. good video.
You perfectly described my problem, however in my case it is a laptop a Asus Zenbook UX-31E. I have USB 3, it used to work great with my usb 3 pen-drive, but at some point speed just fall a lot. My PC have usb 2 and I get around 32mb/s while in my laptop on both usb 2 and usb 3 ports I only get around 18mb/s! Driving me crazy. 4 hours to backup my phone! Nothing seems to work.
You may have lucked out and gotten a laptop with a non-standard USB 3 chip. There was a huge problem with USB 3 when it first backup popular. In short, the standards weren't finalized, so different USB 3 implementations did different things... Couple that with driver issues, and you have a Big Mess.
old vid...don't care.
history good.
Fix..Not present. Boiling a pan of water does not fix a none boiling kettle.
It could be, motherboard jumper/switch not in correct position, Or bios usb 3 mode disabled(defaults to usb2), Or bios usb3 pcie lane allocation. Or maybe like in your usb2 vid they used slower cheaper flash.
Sometimes things don't ship in the optimal configuration and sometimes even the default/optimal settings don't have the settings you want enabled.
I was just now copying 349 albums from my laptop to a Samsung Fit+ (USB 3.1, supposed to be "up to 400MB/s"). The USB stick is blue, the USB port on the Dell dock (plugged into the laptop via USB-C/Thunderbolt) is blue. It ran about 55MB/s the whole way. Faster than when I had a laptop without USB 3.x, but still disappointing. It's a Dell Latitude 5501 that's supposed to have built-in USB 3.1, but neither of them is blue.
The plot thickens! With my new motherboard, I can connect one USB stick to USB port A and get 240 MB/s. But if I plug in to port B it's much slower. In contrast, if I plug my external USB hard drive (mechanical) into port A, I get really pokey speeds - yet it goes at about 50MB/s if I stick it in port B. USB port A is Intel's integrated USB, and port B is an add-on USB chip on the motherboard. So in short, it's hit or miss these days even with USB 3.1.
14 MIN TO TELL YOU TO USE THE BLUE USB 3 PORT. MY FUCKING HEAD IS GOING TO EXPLODE.
copying pdfs (150kb to 5mb size -80gb total mixed) from portable hdd (connected to front) to pen drive (connected at back) using usb 3.0 in win 7 64 bit and getting 2MB/s - usb3.0 devices - pendrive formatted to NTFS. explain that - machine is a 1 year old Dell CAD workstation so fast
That will always be pokey since the portable HDD is slower reading tons of files and copying them one at a time. To get a real idea of max performance, you'd have to copy 1 large 80GB file. Even when I do that kind of multi-file copy with 'known zippy devices/ports', it still slows WAAAY down. Still, it could be a driver and/or device issue with 1 of the USB ports. I'm assuming of course than the portable HDD is a mechanical drive, not an SSD...
I built a PC with ASUS TUFF Gaming Z690 with 12900k. I get about 150 to 200Mb/s on front USB 3.0 with a mechanical external hard drive.
With the Z690, I get WILDLY different results depending on which USB port I use. Some drives must use the front USB (type A) port. Others, the rear USB A ports. And of course my super-fast external SSD must use USB-C, rear port. What a mess!!!!
I noticed some ports stop when I have my phone plugged in the back with 3.0 cable. A video said disable legacy on USB in BIOS and that worked for a couple of the ports, must be only associated with those. I have 1tb NVMe WD black and 1tb NVMe blue. Those speeds are crazy, lol. But ya, I know what you mean, all the different types of ports.
Why not use a USB-C pci-e expansion card and forget about USB 3.0 altogether?
Does not work for me, I have the same USB extender u have from TP-link, all ports USB 3.0, and my USB Flash driver is USB 3.0 Aswell, Went into "device manager" and put it on "high performance" restarted computer but I still get speeds at 20-30mb/s copy speeds, I honestly have no idea what to do! and yes i am copying from an SSD to USB 3,0 Flash drive.
Did you try going into device manager, find the drive that's slow, right click, go to properties and change it to best performance? This works on all the slow front and back ports on usb 3.0.
I plug my USB 3.0 directly into the motherboard and it's still *10MB/sec.
But I plug an expensive SSD with 3.0 into the ports that are connected to the non-Intel headers on the motherboard, I get at least 10x faster data transfer.
10:10 is what your looking for
Thanks for the Video. Definitely helped me out.
Thanks for the video, it cleared up some things.
Excellent info, thank you.
i have tried everything but even today in 2020 the usb transfer is slow...i actually have dual boot win7 preinstalled and win 10...same usb 3 portable harddrive goes over 100mbps and in win 10...there is initial spike of speed and then it goes horrendously low .....all drivers are installed...
I conecct my samsung j7 to usb3 and my speed is only 29mb\s where is the problem. I bay pci expres to usb3 and conect ssd--same problem only 29 mb\s. hmmm im ungry
The same exact thing happened to me a few days ago. It used to work fine but then both usb 3 ports in my front panel would only work at usb 2 speeds. After quite a lot of fiddling turns out my problem was... dirt. I cleaned the connectors with 96º alcohol and a toothbrush and voila, back to usb 3 speeds.
Interesting!!
@@ScottiesTech Yeah. Of course that doesn't 100% prove dirt was my issue, maybe I just happened to bend a pin in the connector just right while brushing it, I don't know, it's a sample of one and there could be a number of other potential causes, but it's worth a try I guess. Now, if someone in your audience is experimenting a similar issue and wants to give this a go, we should probably advise them to use proper contact cleaner instead of being a hack like me, haha. In my case this is an old machine and I gave it a few minutes to make sure moisture was gone by the time I turned the computer back on, but still.
could you do a video about if PC can't go to sleep mode because it immediately eakes up? Z690 motherboard
Good explaination. Exactly find the same things also in the AMD's chipset. Asmedia's chipset is really rubbish.
I get between 3 and 5MB/sec with a Patriot Quick Drive 3.0 stick. It sucks.
I knew I wasn't imagining stuff, I felt that the usb flash drives copying speed got worse since the windows update, but I saw no one talk about that problem, so I was like "was this always like this?" but now at least I can confirm this. Still. I have an awful copying speed, it goes from 50mb to 1mb, and I'm lucky if it stabilizes itself at 10mb.
I have a new motherboard now, so things have changed. For some USB3 devices, I get max copy speed via a USB3 hub plugged into a read USB3 port. But for 1 USB3 card reader and (believe it or not) an older 2.5" portable HDD, I only get max speeds using the USB3 port on the FRONT of my puter. I guess we might as well just roll the dice, pick a port, and then try again. It's so random sometimes.
@@ScottiesTech I'm right now trying to copy some files to a 3.0 usb stick from a 3.0 usb external hard drive, and it's baffling to see the copying speed drop from 50mb to 1mb. And both are plugged on the usb ports from the back, it's insane and honestly makes me angry and sad, because it feels like a scam coming from Windows, (they are legit products so I know I didn't bought some crap lmao)
get a usb-c/thunderbolt add-in card that way you can have up to 40Gb/s
All this video for me not to learn why my USB 3.0 ports on the back of my computer are transferring at USB 2.0 speeds no matter what device I install.
Thank you I suspected that was it and until I reinstalled Linux distros it never really bothered me until now
and yes its 3.0 and blue
Meanwhile while watching this video "transfer speed 7.65MB/s 6 hours 23 minutes remaining"... And it's so called usb3 pci-e. With a USB 3 powered hub
Do you have any insight on USB 3.1? I have motherboard with USB 3.1 support and devices with USB 3.1 support but I cant achieve anything higher then 400-500MB read and writes. I have tried various speed tests, transferring varies files and it never goes above 500MB speeds.
What are you copying to/from? To get those max speeds, you'll need to copy to/from an SSD or uber-fast USB stick.
400 MB/s is an absolute lie. I would like to see a video of that. Even my Samsung 850 Pro SSD doesn't transfer that fast. This video is filled with false information.
USB 3.0 is max 625 MB/s, USB 3.1 is 1250 MB/s, and USB 3.2 is 2500 MB/s. Those are theoretical max speeds. Real world speeds are lower (like 400 MB/s practical for USB 3.0) due to overhead in the USB protocols. The reason you don't usually see those speeds is because of the (slow) device connected, the USB interface itself, driver issues, Windows issues, and even the type of data being copied. Copying 1 large file to a USB 3 mem stick can be very fast, but copying 3000 files/folders will be VERY slow. Samsung even makes external SSDs using USB 3.2 that have a max read speed of 1050 MB/s. But there again (like your 850 Pro), that depends on if it's a read, write, and even what KIND of read/write you're doing (random, sequential, and so on). In the case of SSDs, it also depends on where the file(s) you are copying to/from the SSD are located. If they're on a normal HDD, the slower transfer rate of the HDD is the limiting factor. Or, if you transfer files from another SSD on a computer on your local 1 Gbps Ethernet LAN, then the Ethernet limits the copy to ~112 MB/s. Even SSD -> SSD copies can slow down depending on the files being transferred. As for fast USB sticks, I did a vid on that: ruclips.net/video/iydlU4PPQbI/видео.html My fav currently is the USB 3.1 Samsung Extreme PRO 128GB. A 2GB movie file can be written to the stick at 276 MB/s, and read back at 327 MB/s. The Many File/Folder test was much slower: 66 write, 97 MB/s read.
@@ScottiesTech My USB 3.0 Flash Cards from Sandisk, Kinston, and PNY might "start" at 40MB MB/S for about one or two seconds, but then it drops down to tiny curves ranging from less than 1MB/s (literally kilobytes per second), and going to 2, 4, 6, 8 ,10 MB/s, and then back down to 8, 6, 4, 2, 0 MB/s. It took me over two hours to fill up a 64GB card when I recently transferred multiple video files ranging from 200MB in size up to 3GB in size.
I tried this is both "Quick" mode and "Better Performance" mode. I also tried it in both NTFS and exFAT. I also tried this in the "Default" size, and the smallest size, and the largest size when I formatted the USB 3.0 cards multiple times. Nothing mattered.
Also, I tried switching over to a different computer. So that way I was using the "rear port" of a desktop PC rather than the "side port" of a laptop. It was still super slow.
And those USB cards didn't even allow a checkmark to be put in "write cache." You could select "Better performance," but not "write cache."
The fact is, these USB cards from manufacturers such as Sandisk, Kingston, and PNY are truly terribly slow. They are virtually worthless when transferring large files such as videos.
At this point you can buy a 128GB or 256GB SSD for about the same price as a USB 3.0 USB Flash Drive. So, it makes better sense to just buy a small cable to connect the SSD and use it externally to connect to your computer or TV.
BOTTOM LINE: USB 3.0 Flash Drives are SLOOOOWWW and worthless when you need to fill them with lots of data. It takes HOURS to do so.
@@michaelzoran There's a bottleneck somewhere... I just wrote an article about this:
scottiestech.info/2020/10/06/how-to-get-more-speed-from-your-usb-drives/
I've had laptops and desktops that required a BIOS update and/or driver update to get full speed from USB 3 ports. The standards changed a lot and there was actually some mayhem that occurred because end users weren't getting the promised speeds. The problem was the result of some change in the standard that Intel didn't share earlier enough. Most manufacturers released new drivers or firmware updates that fixed the problem - some didn't.
If it's not the cards, then it could be the card reader. Even using the wrong USB 3 hub can slow things down. I had a Belkin USB 3 hub for awhile and I was wondering why I wasn't getting higher transfer rates... First, I found a new USB 3 driver on the Asus web site. Okay, that'll fix it! Nope - still slow... Turns out it was the frickin' USB HUB I was using!!! I nearly flipped my lid. Bought a TP-Link USB 3 hub, and that one actually works.
Anyway, the first thing I would do is get a fast USB stick that you know can handle ridiculous copy speeds... Then plug that directly into the USB 3 port on the puter. If you don't get fast speeds, check drivers, BIOS updates, etc. To test, do a copy of a single large file (2GB) from a fast drive (SSD preferably). Once that's working, then switch to the card reader or whatever other gizmo you're using and test that. It may be seriously annoying, but you CAN get faster speeds.
@@michaelzoran My Patriot Rage sustains writes at 450 MB/s. Ejects immediately. Stop buying cheap thumb drives. 95% of their capacity is QLC Flash which is cheap, dense, and _slowww._
none of my USB ports have blue on them yet my Alienware r3 says all 4 of my ports are USB 3.0 with 1 type c port one has powered to it idk so which is faster type c or USB 3?
My usb 3.0 copy speed is around 6mb how do i improve this
mine is plugged in the back and i still get 40mbps speeds
@ScottiesTech.Info what if I plug the front panel add-on to a 19pin port from a PCIe board will that work? Many usb 3.0 port addage come with an extra 19pin header port? Will I get my speeds if I plug it there?
I've done that before, and it worked! Nice and zippy.
@@ScottiesTech Splendid, so if I understand, even if the default front panel is plugged in the default 3.0 header on my Asus motherboard. If I buy an additional front panel and plug it in a added 3.0 headed via PCI or PCIe, Both the new front pannel and the old (default) will work, with the exception that the new added front panel will be faster because coming from pcie. THis will give me in total 4 usb 3.0 ports
i only get 120 to 150 from USB 3 copy backup hard drive it has blue end were get they idea 600 meg speed i never get that high either away wight or read .
i ahev the same tp link , and i still dont get 3.2 speeds
if you plug more of those thumb drives into the hub, is each one going to get that read write speed, or will the recipe that read write speed between them?
Are you aware of any particular motherboards where the various usb 3 ports don't share bandwidth resources?
Usually, they all do. There are some USB3 ports connected to the chipset, and others connected to a USB3 chip added to the motherboard (if it has tons of ports). If I need gobs of USB3 bandwidth, I usually add a PCI-E USB3 card to add more ports.
If you were to use a usbc to usb 3.0 hub, would you be able to take advantage of the added bandwidth from the usb c connection?
@ScottiesTech.Info Mr Scotties, I recently noticed that my HDD appeared to show errors, until I tried them on different usb 3.0 ports and different computer altogether, and now have no issue. I tended to hear a Beep sound and the drive trying to spin but failing to. Is that a sign that my USB 3.0 ports have lost power? Is that something that occurs over time? My Asus motherboard is 5 years old now. I decided to buy a voltage usb tester witch will arrive soon, and a powered hub too. Anything that I can do to troubleshoot? Except the power measurement? What should I look at, the voltage and or the amps? One thing I can obviously try is to remove all the usb drivers and let windows install them.
The external harddrive is a 2.5 standard usb 3.0 from wd passport. Brand new. It also occured with another brand new drive from a non name brand. And also a 5 years old wd drive. I did find one port that seems fine for now.
Sometimes manufacturers get a bit cheap with power on USB ports... The voltage may be fine, the amount of current that can be supplied to all USB ports may be more limited than one would hope. It should be each pair of USB ports have max rated current, but sometimes it can be max current rating for 4 ports. Or, it could be that 1 or more ports just don't supply enough current. OR, the ports are 'dying'. You could be able to get around that problem with a powered USB 3 hub. Just make sure that the powered hub has an AC adapter. That way, the current supplied is coming from the hub and not the puter. That should do the trick!
@@ScottiesTech thank you. I measured and it is 4.3 Volts for about 3000 amps for the faulty ports whilst the healthy ones are 4.9 to 5v for 2000 to 4000 amp. . The faulty usb the drive cannot boot and tries to spin but keeps failing. Is it that bellow 4.9 is not enough for the 2.5 external wd drive?
@@john005_ Yeah, that's definitely not good. At the lower voltage, the drive may not have enough power to run properly.
Good video but the end should be at the beginning
My usb3 download speed is ok, but the upload speed to my usb3 stick starts fast and then slows down no matter which port or which computer I use.
Which USB stick are we talking about here? Do the computers have normal hard drives or SSDs?
Get a better USB stick. Like a SanDisk Extreme, or a Patriot Rage. Cheap USB 3 drives slow down because they have a tiny SLC cache to reach advertised speeds, but once that fills up in a large transfer it switches to the slow/dense QLC flash.
What to do when you buy scum Sandisk crap 3.0 with 20/5 r/w no matter what it's plugged into?
Nice Info. Have you seen the same issue with addon pci cards aswel?
MY computer does not have USB 3.0(yep its old, stable and reliable) so i got an cheap USB 3.0 card and installed. But I cannot seem to get more than USB 2.0 speeds...
Yes, actually. And in my case a driver update wasn't available, so I was out of luck. It just never worked at full speed.
So the usb 3 on the back of my pc is slower than the front and I have an asus mb
Have you tried using the front USB 3.0 ports in Linux instead of Windows?
Sadly it didn't work for me. Both the front and back ports gave me the same results. I tried a USB 3 thumb drive and an SSD via a dock, no change.
You may need a specific USB 3 driver from your motherboard/puter manufacturer then. The default Windows ones don't always work. Not sure about linux, but usually everything just works on that front.
@@ScottiesTech How do you go about finding the right driver? I know they're not something you should mess with if you don't know what you're doing.
@@flameshana9 Yeah, it can be lots of fun. If it's a full computer purchased from somebody like Dell, then you'd search for the model number on their web site in the supports/drivers section and see if there's a specific USB 3 driver available. Or, you'd have to know the motherboard make and model (usually printed on the board itself). Then go to the manufacturer's web site and search for mobo model number. Companies like Asus that make motherboards typically release new drivers to fix issues with, say, a Win 10 update, but they don't actually notify you of their availability. In both cases, you just download the driver and run the installer. It's pretty safe and painless - except for actually finding the driver!
Great info, you and your tribble are very smart. I like the USB history and the solution you found. However, your voice puts me to sleep every time I watch video.
In my laptop the copying speed is only 20mb/s. Is that's even normal?
i got crappy speeds connecting in the back or front.......... ports 3.1 and 3.2 :)
I need a solution for otg android hard drives, it goes only up to 30MB but most times 20MB beside the cables are all came with the external USB c android compatible transcend hard drive.
That one's tricky... It could be the USB chip, driver, speed of the Transcend drive... but most likely, the limiting factor is the flash memory in the Android gizmo itself. It's usually not super-fast in most devices.
@@ScottiesTech that's a shame this days, that they don't think about usb c ports on the phones for fast file transfair. 😕
Do you know a easy method maybe, how I could make from my new hdd transcend 4TB Drive ( have usb c and A cables included) maybe a easy direct WiFi backup storage or similar for faster file transfair without much work, becourse I can't handle in the moment much complicated stuff, I'm disabled and under much pain, becourse of my sicknesses, but have bought now, (after many years this hd drive) , this I hope good hdd external drive wher people told me that they are using it for over 10years without problems.
Sorry for my confusing and not correct English writing, it's also not my first, Language more the 3th. Maybe it would be a good new video idea to help people that have problems too, to get easyer backups from ther phones to a drive, I have only 2.6GB left and have to delete any newer pictures ect to keep my phone running without Tribble. Proberly i should have long time ago done backups but with al my health problems and this days it's not easys, that it takes years to come to the point. Beside my hdd drive is Transcend 4 TB USB Type-C Rugged Portable Hard Drive - Shock Resistant USB 3.1 Gen 1 StoreJet TS4TSJ25M3C
Long time storage are much safer some one told in a video on yt on new hdd drives that ssd, wher no one knows how long the hold.
I can also understand if no one could help me of time reason or other things. Also I'm not capable to buy expensive stuff to get to the point.
Kind Regards 🖖
This was my info video on backup storages.
ruclips.net/video/MFUcGME-A4A/видео.html
guess what i get 1.8 mbs per second.... and it doesnt matter if its in the back or in the front, if its a usb 3 or 2...
You cannot fix cheap sticks with a crap cache the cache is the main problem
Is it normal for copy speed to be 12-24mb per second if the file your copying is many? I copied a series that's 4.4gb and has 9 episodes. And it takes 4 minutes. But if I copy like 1 file that's 1gb it takes like a minute.
For a slow USB stick, that's about normal. While copying a ton of files/folders is slower than copying 1 big file (for example), when you're dealing with, say, episodes of some show the difference is much smaller. In your case, you're copying either 1 or 9 large files. So then the biggest factor is the large size of each file. If 4.4GB takes 4 minutes, that's about 18.3 MB/s. 1GB would then take about 54.5s.
@@ScottiesTech I'm using SanDisk USB 3.0 so that's slow? I just bought it. It's brand new.
I plug my SanDisk 32GB USB3 in a USB3 hub in the back of my pc (directly into motherboard USB3) but still write at around 20 MB/s (160ish megabit) and read at 133MB/s (1100ish Megabit). Is this due to slow USB storage device? That is an issue not covered (much) in the video; the fact that various drives have lower write speed. I have another Sandisk 64GB USB writes at 32 MB/s and reads at 150MB/s. Used to buy Kingston drives, but apparently they are super slow...
Yup, that's typical. That's why I recommend the Lexar P20 (link in description). It's wicked-fast in both directions!
This guy is awesome. Like is he for real? Who talks like that lmfao. Love ya Scotty.
I talk like that. 24/7
Thanks Bro
You are ungodly good looking. I could watch you talk nerd to me all day and I would feed you grapes
Hmm, I could live with that...
Doing everything you said I get a whopping 20mb/s read and 40mb/s write on USB 3.1 on an AMD Ryzen 7 chip with 64gb DDR 4 memory. Anything else it could be?
Assuming the USB 3.1 gizmo actually supports higher read/write speeds, then drivers. And sometimes, manufacturers don't release updated drivers to fix slow transfer rates, which is not nice.
Same problem on me
Even though pluggin them in the back of the pc i just get around 10 MB/s -.-
Is it a USB3 port that's directly connected to the motherboard, or a USB port in an add-in slot like where PCI-E cards would go? If it's a built-in mobo port, then I'd prolly check for an updated USB3 driver from the mobo maker. That'll usually fix it good.
Scotties tech info forgot about the 3.1usb ports
I had usb 3.2 on my mobo.giga b550m ds3h. And my girlfriend give me a pendrive. Cuz my pc faster and much better than her laptop. So i download movies - copy pendrive than plug on tv. The pendrive is a sandisc 32gb // USB 3.1 Plug / USB 3.1 Type-C Plug //. At the first times i copy the files with 60-65mb / sec. Now max 25mb / sec. And i dont know why.. why ??
That can happen if an OS update overwrites the USB drivers. You might be able to fix it by seeing if there are updated drivers from the motherboard manufacturer's web site. In some cases, you can't fix it - except using a different USB port.
@@ScottiesTech im used first times revi Os / custom win 10. Than later i upgrade it full. Cuz my 4750g igpu a lot times had black screen error. So had a huge chance about you right. I will turn off windows update / win driver installs. I will remove all drivers with ddu than install from giga site. I will tell what happen later. Thanks! I wish the bests for you.
Or install Linux, no driver issue on Ubuntu for me.
ive never got more than 100mbps ever
great video at 2x speed
In depth shit dude. Thanks
Gotta hit 10 minutes+ somehow right