Thank you so much for this segment. I taught seminary this morning and feel like I should have listened to this before I taught the lesson. I’m going to go back to my lesson from today and share more about how women have the priesthood. I thought it was only in the temple but you are right about the other things such as sister missionaries. I was a missionary and felt that authority. It was amazing. Thank you for your light.
Here’s my ‘so what?’ reading this morning: Lot’s wife has always been a ‘so what’ story to me. Her story has been hashed out in so many ways, but mostly how she turned on her covenants. That’s not the ‘so what,’ it’s the blame we all give her when all she did was look back. How many of us do worse? I was learning about salt being a symbol of covenant (credit goes to you guys and DB), and then I read her account - TWO SENTENCES - that’s it! If salt is a symbol of covenant then I think Lot's wife has been misrepresented and the lesson has been lost or missed. Genesis 19:26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt. She looked back from behind her husband? Hmmm, that has temple symbology. She gave up all of her possessions (law of consecration?) and she became a Pillar of Covenant or a pillar amidst chaos! That’s exactly what you would expect of a wife, a mother, a covenant keeper. Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife. This advice was given when Pharisees were asking when the kingdom of God should come. When? Jesus goes right into temple symbology! It's easy to miss and easy to see. She was a "certain woman," or a woman certain of her belief in God. But she was more - she was a Pillar of Salt! So what can I learn from her? Stay true to my covenants when chaos arises. Remember her, not because she failed, but because she succeeded.
11:55 I’m sorry but I disagree. In virtually every other Christian church we hear about miracles of faith. These other churches have faithful men and women offering prayers to ask God to heal their child or whatever it happens to be. For the brother to suggest that the healing comes from the “priesthood power” of the mother is to suggest that there is nothing unique to our church compared to other faiths. I am an active member of the church. I am not trying to be contrarian to what is being said in this segment. I simply believe that the explanation is often faith itself. Other churches teach to pray and have faith. What about the times when a priesthood blessing is given and the mother is deceased or divorced and unaware of blessing? Other examples could be given. Making the priesthood so broad that “women have priesthood power” is to reduce faith itself and muddy the waters of the importance of the gender of the priesthood holder.
Again, you are mistaking authority and power; which was the whole point of the discussion. In The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints we have the privilege of exercising authority. That is a tremendous blessing. Just yesterday, I was able to exercise the authority of my office in the priesthood and pronounce a blessing on a grandchild. Having elders to lay hands upon a sick child, is a blessing of the Church. But healings through faith and righteousness, are not unique to the Church; nor to holding an office in it. President Nelson’s very first plea to us as the newly sustained president of the church was: “Now, may I voice a concern? It is this: Too many of our brothers and sisters do not fully understand the concept of priesthood power and authority” (April 2018). “Making the priesthood so broad that women have priesthood power” is the very plea from the president of the church.
Respectfully, then am I to assume that faithful Christians of other denominations have access to priesthood power? Are we broadening “priesthood power” to mean “God’s general love for his faithful children?” I’m not trying to be antagonistic. I understand the uniqueness of the aspect of authority. No disagreement there.
No. We are talking about the rights of the priesthood that are inseparably connected with the powers of heaven and that the powers of heaven are controlled and handled only by RIGHTEOUSNESS (D&C 121:36). Not by holding an office, but by righteousness. Authority come from holding an office or by assignment from a key holder, who holds an office, but power comes from righteousness. Hence President Russell M. Nelson said: “I fear that too many of our brothers AND SISTERS do not grasp the privileges that could be theirs” (Apr. 2018). The point is that priesthood power is available to men and women, office holders and non office holders. Now, I can’t imagine that one could fully access that power without the gift of the Holy Ghost, or without authorized covenants, but standing in those covenants and living the gospel as it has been restored in our day, power in the priesthood is available to all. It is not limited to office holders. Elder Oaks, quoting Elder Ballard: “When men and women go to the temple, they are both endowed with the same power, which is priesthood power…Access to the power and the blessings of the priesthood is available to all of God’s children” (April 2014).
Such a great lesson this week. Thank you for sharing your thoughts !
Thank you so much for this segment. I taught seminary this morning and feel like I should have listened to this before I taught the lesson. I’m going to go back to my lesson from today and share more about how women have the priesthood. I thought it was only in the temple but you are right about the other things such as sister missionaries. I was a missionary and felt that authority. It was amazing. Thank you for your light.
Thank you for good insight of Moroni 1 thru 6 you guys do great job every week. Have a great week. 😎
Remembering and nourishing!! Thank you!!❤❤❤
Thanks Mike and Bryce! Happy thanksgiving! Grateful for you both!
thank you for nourishing me this morning...
Here’s my ‘so what?’ reading this morning:
Lot’s wife has always been a ‘so what’ story to me. Her story has been hashed out in so many ways, but mostly how she turned on her covenants. That’s not the ‘so what,’ it’s the blame we all give her when all she did was look back. How many of us do worse?
I was learning about salt being a symbol of covenant (credit goes to you guys and DB), and then I read her account - TWO SENTENCES - that’s it!
If salt is a symbol of covenant then I think Lot's wife has been misrepresented and the lesson has been lost or missed.
Genesis 19:26 But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.
She looked back from behind her husband? Hmmm, that has temple symbology.
She gave up all of her possessions (law of consecration?) and she became a Pillar of Covenant or a pillar amidst chaos! That’s exactly what you would expect of a wife, a mother, a covenant keeper.
Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.
This advice was given when Pharisees were asking when the kingdom of God should come.
When? Jesus goes right into temple symbology!
It's easy to miss and easy to see.
She was a "certain woman," or a woman certain of her belief in God. But she was more - she was a Pillar of Salt!
So what can I learn from her? Stay true to my covenants when chaos arises. Remember her, not because she failed, but because she succeeded.
thanks for another great lesson!
11:55 I’m sorry but I disagree. In virtually every other Christian church we hear about miracles of faith. These other churches have faithful men and women offering prayers to ask God to heal their child or whatever it happens to be.
For the brother to suggest that the healing comes from the “priesthood power” of the mother is to suggest that there is nothing unique to our church compared to other faiths.
I am an active member of the church. I am not trying to be contrarian to what is being said in this segment. I simply believe that the explanation is often faith itself. Other churches teach to pray and have faith. What about the times when a priesthood blessing is given and the mother is deceased or divorced and unaware of blessing? Other examples could be given.
Making the priesthood so broad that “women have priesthood power” is to reduce faith itself and muddy the waters of the importance of the gender of the priesthood holder.
Again, you are mistaking authority and power; which was the whole point of the discussion. In The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints we have the privilege of exercising authority. That is a tremendous blessing. Just yesterday, I was able to exercise the authority of my office in the priesthood and pronounce a blessing on a grandchild. Having elders to lay hands upon a sick child, is a blessing of the Church. But healings through faith and righteousness, are not unique to the Church; nor to holding an office in it.
President Nelson’s very first plea to us as the newly sustained president of the church was:
“Now, may I voice a concern? It is this: Too many of our brothers and sisters do not fully understand the concept of priesthood power and authority” (April 2018).
“Making the priesthood so broad that women have priesthood power” is the very plea from the president of the church.
Respectfully, then am I to assume that faithful Christians of other denominations have access to priesthood power? Are we broadening “priesthood power” to mean “God’s general love for his faithful children?” I’m not trying to be antagonistic. I understand the uniqueness of the aspect of authority. No disagreement there.
No. We are talking about the rights of the priesthood that are inseparably connected with the powers of heaven and that the powers of heaven are controlled and handled only by RIGHTEOUSNESS (D&C 121:36). Not by holding an office, but by righteousness. Authority come from holding an office or by assignment from a key holder, who holds an office, but power comes from righteousness. Hence President Russell M. Nelson said: “I fear that too many of our brothers AND SISTERS do not grasp the privileges that could be theirs” (Apr. 2018). The point is that priesthood power is available to men and women, office holders and non office holders. Now, I can’t imagine that one could fully access that power without the gift of the Holy Ghost, or without authorized covenants, but standing in those covenants and living the gospel as it has been restored in our day, power in the priesthood is available to all. It is not limited to office holders.
Elder Oaks, quoting Elder Ballard: “When men and women go to the temple, they are both endowed with the same power, which is priesthood power…Access to the power and the blessings of the priesthood is available to all of God’s children” (April 2014).