BB Chevy 454 stroked to 525 cubes - super big torque!
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- Опубликовано: 16 авг 2024
- In this, episode 65 of PowerTec 10, DV, along with Terry Walters and Jack Sain do a basic 454 big block Chevy build and then stretch it to 525 with the aid of a 4.5 inch stroker crank. While doing so tests of Trick Flow 280 and 320 heads are evaluated. The final result was a pump gas street driver that would idle at just less than 500 rpm and crank out nearly 800 hp and 729 lbs-ft of torque.
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Hi David, Im at a loss at how many videos you have posted recently. You are an absolute powerhouse of information. You are helping many people think critically about their cylinder heads. Thanks for arming us with great information 👍👍
I love the torque monster builds.. reasonable rpm and gobs of torque.
Torque is what wins on the street...thank you sir and long live the big block chevy.
Thank you,Mr. Vizard for putting out such great content. Ive read many of your books in the last 30 years and learned more than i learned getting my automotive degree. Youre a real treasure,keep up the great work💪💪
What a beastly engine. Fairly easy build. Of course the head porting and intake port matching are making a big difference, but it's time well spent.
Thanks for the details on the successful engine build. For dollars spent the Chevrolet Big Block V8 provides the best return in terms of horsepower and torque of most engines available to a performance enthusiast. This engine has been around since the early sixties and is still very desirable. The iron block is heavy but with aluminum heads, intake, water pump the weight comes down to a manageable level for many cars.
I loved the story of this build! If you have any stories about working with a ford 460 I would sure enjoy that too. Keep up the great work, and God Bless.
The last 2 engines that left my shop were done more your way than mine, and it showed, the sbc 427 pump gas Hy Roller made 577 torque and the BBC 540 pump gas flat mechanical cam made 753 torque, however my HP numbers aren't up to yours. 600 and 735 respectively. In fact the BB held 735 + or - 5 from 5900 to 6900 almost flat. while the SBC was more a conventional curve. I have learned a lot in the last year watching your videos and I thank you.
Before Money..there was a reason a Big Block Chevy was designed....and there are some out here that dont build over a 3,000 dollar engine due to economy and have to live.Most i Know here in east tn. have less than 10 grand in a build....talking g.m. muscle cars late 60,s to early 70,s.......why them yankees like to come down and pluke the ol car from us.....dont take much with a big block chevy to raise Hell on the street/track without breaking the bank....small block guy spend what it takes to build a Ford.
Always great hearing you talk about big block buildups and secrets, keep them coming!!! Thanks!
I've got a 57 Chevy truck that I'm building into a 4x4 been back and forth on either building up a 406 I have or a 454 I have. I was set to go 406 but watching this series makes me want to go big block. I can always put the 406 in one of my other trucks. Keep up the great content a big 👍 to you.
Just bought your book on building a budget 454 I'm really looking forward to building my first motor based off of your advice thank you sir!
WOW, AWESOME BUILD... NICE CAM AND LCA.
Good build up
Can never have to many bbc build up, please keep them coming
Reminds me of he early to mid 90's when people were putting big blocks in Chevy Chevetts!
This is exactly the dream motor i have been looking for .... for my daily driver hot rod black s10... what a sleeper i shall build.
😁 a million thank yous David
That's crazy power off pump gas wow
Thanks Dave what a way to start your weekend with a 750 hp BBC
Love the video. This is such great information. I would love to see a similar build and recommendations using a Pontiac 455 block as a starting point.
Boost
I love all your big block chevy videos I love that you share the engine specs and tell us the combos
As long as you can feed them, and keep the friction losses under control, cubic inches are very hard to beat.
Awesome build David!
That is just Wild!! and only 10.5 comp.!!! I wonder what a 13.5 motor with that combination would bring...
Those BSFC values are lovely. 0.39 at 4000 RPM, 0.401 at 5083 RPM, 0.39 at 5900 RPM. It's efficient.
Looks like an ideal jet boat engine
Absolutely amazing to do this on 87 octane fuel. And amazing to stick that 4.5 inch crank in that block. I've considered a 4.375 in a gen5 block but I think it's the heads and cam combo that makes the big number possible.
Great video I love all the big block builds
The best content on the net bar none. Now how about a 460 into a 514 with AFR heads.. Thanks for all you do..
Yes, i'm looking to do a 502 stoker with my .030" over 385series block.
Almost same same i guess, would love to see a build and it's specs. 👌
A two plane dominator manifold... I like it. Wonder if production could potentially be in motion by August/September? Be fun to see some folks step up.
What a torque and hp monster
I like it. Good stuff Mr.Visard
Thank you for your knowledge....dieing breed....gonna be hard for someone to fill your shoes and they are alot of gearheads out here in real world...Thank you for want share and do on here...Chris from East Tn.
David: Edelbrock did make a dual plane Dominator intake manifold for the BBC, labeled as the "C-454". Introduced in 1969. Not sure when it was discontinued. Would be nice to have a Dual Plane RPM Performer with that flange for BBC.
Awesome intake and you can still find them on ebay
I remember those, and for rectangular ports at that ! I'd think the RPM 2 - 4 intake would best it.
I randomly found a C-454 at a swap meet a couple weeks after watching this video and snagged it. It looks like the high rise chevy intake or Performer RPM with a dominator opening. I'm building a pump gas 509 (.030 over 502) right now and planned to use a RPM Air Gap and 950. But this video got me thinking about a Dominator so maybe I'll test the C-454 vs the Air Gap with a 950 when I get it together. My late father built and raced lots of Big Blocks and was also a David Vizard fan. So I hope to do this right and make them both proud.
@@etenterprises they really need to take the new technology that’s in the RPM air gap and put a dominator flange on the new Manifolds
the older style manifold probably still not gonna make the power the rpm airgap will with 1000 CFM 4150 carburetor
@@DSRE535 I've actually emailed them about this. A Dominator RPM Air Gap would be killer.
thank you for sharing your years of knowledge
W O W ! ! ! That was a awesome dyno pull!! Thanks David! Truly brilliant build!!!
The secret it is the heads flow 400 cfm along with 500 plus cubes
Makes the dominator carb force feed
It enough to make all work
If it had 13 to 1 compression it
Would make 900 hp
Thats a great combo for just about anything.
David is the best out there for making big HP
Very impressive.
Absolutely Fantastic Engine 👏 😅 David . Gr8 Combination 👍 👌 😅
I believe the proper statement is "there's no replacement for displacement!" 😂
also ... ignore (not ignor)
Turbo
thats what i need in my 74 lwb C10. love it 87 octane.
That 105 lsa will narrow the rpm range of the engine.
awesome engine
I just found your channel a while ago and subscribed during the first video
That thing is breathing really good.
Great video. Looking to buy a C2 vette and put one of these big blocks into it with a 4 speed 😁
Nice build
Very much liked the results
Big Block the only way to Ride
Goodness gracious, great balls of fire! Wow David. Special license plate "ENG-WIZARD". DK, Omaha.
Good job different Engine build on a Chevy , most of the time it's 496 or 540 and 525 with a stock block too.
Great information as usual.
There is a dual plane dominator intake. Cant remember who made it but my boss had one on his big block he had a 750 dominator on it. This was in the late 80s but holly made a 750cfm dominator
David David David OMG Sir if I ever in my life ever rolled up to a stop light and heard a Big block barely running idling at 500RPM I would get out of my car and put a bullet thru the Carb.. I'm sorry david but a nicely built and appropriately cammed BB with a solid roller idling in at just under a Grand is all the music I need . Listening to a Mildly built BB with a set of older Stahl racing headers well that just Orgasmic ...
Awesome content sir!
Awesome video, i would love to see bbc low end pulling builds. Low end and mid range power is fun power.
Really awesome video....Would love to see a video build on a stock bore 454...maybe gen 6 454??? Thanks so much for your valuable information...very much appreciated. 🙏
Thank David love the video
Wow I am impressed. If I ever build a engine that certainly a great power plant. My brother has a 496 supper charged build in a Honda Integra. I will say the power of these big inch motors are a rush
I was watching the video Andy and John did last night and he mentioned welding up combustion chambers to gain compression on his 96 GT… DV could you do a video covering some of the tips and pointers of modifications to less than ideal combustion chambers and what to NOT do?
Great video
Thanks. Take care.
Great vidja David 🤙🏼
I would have liked to have seen the torque and hospower chart. I really like how your videos are to the point.
Damn good Engine, well done.
David, I have a pair of 565cid (4.25" stroke x 4.600" bore) 9.80" deck engines that are ready for assembly, however they are for a MARINE application offshore hi-perf pleasure boat i mainly use on Lake Michigan. AFR 315cc cnc'd heads with some slight porting on the exhaust port for .700" lift. ...and I have purchased a pair of Edlebrock's dual-plane RPM Air-Gap Pt#7562 in the Rectangle Port design and that's what I am determined to use (don't want to use any single plane). I want a hydraulic roller cam to make peak power up to about 5800-6000rpm, DRY exhaust with 32" 1.7/8" primaries, 9.3:1 comp ratio, Holley 4150 950cfm Ultra XP carb (don't want a Dominator carb) I am a little concerned about reversion from too tight of a LSA on the cam profile, however I LOVE the low RPM idle characteristics of the Mike Jones Cam (450rpm at idle/neutral) ....I always thought the TIGHTER the LSA the more ROUGH and choppier the idle----no? I'm looking for TORQUE on these 565cid marine app engines....with/using the components/parts I have listed, what CAM specs/profile would you suggest and on what LSA???...and please keep in mind I want easy going smooth LOBES on the cams for long lasting durability and easy on the valve train. I am also using Crower Stainless Steel shaft mount roller rocker arms. I enjoy watching your videos and your tech info. Thank you, Sir....Mark Btw, I am NOT looking to make every drop of Horsepower at the top, rather I am looking for NECK SNAPPING TORQUE with these 565's and was planning on calling/using a Mike Jones cam as well. Any Suggestions???
This is amazing, just what I was looking to drop into my 1980 k10, was only curious if anyone caught how much of a lift he used on the cam.
I bet I could build that engine for about what it cost to build my big block 427. ,thanks for the engine specs and video
HOLY crap .. that thing is AWESOME ill take 2
O yea love to have that combo in my li’l jimmy blazer!
I have a 489 i want throw a 4.5 crank in now awesome power an torque
Nice just what i was looking for is IT posibel to her som part nr for strokerpart and cam and heads 😉
Engine was impressive, so is that dyno instalation.
Only issue I would see is windage issues with oil. I had issues with stock 468 with oil aeration above 4K rpm. Curious what kind of oil pump and pan was used. Windage tray?
I like that phrase ...The b.s. stops when the flag drops 👍. I wish my Pontiac 400 had that much hahahaha in my dreams
Fantastic videos DV, thankyou.
I have a 385eries Big Block Ford .030" over to which i want to run a Scat 502 stroker kit in.
What this BBC has produced is what i desire to achive for mine, is it safe to assume that these specs basically carry over to the BBF?
I was contemplating using a JKaase P-51 head but see it may not be as big.
Any guidance would be appreciated.
Cheers Ben
Hope all is well David just wondering if you can build a traditional Pontiac they are light years ahead these days !I think the record iir is over 4000 horsepower thank You!
No substitute for ci they say. Yes there is
Forced induction
Bloodviking
Badass motor.....
You can put a ,4.625" crank in a 9.800" DH block and that is it. 4.600X4.600X4.625X6.2832=615 cu.in.
I have a question about the cam. I am looking for a combination that makes good power and torque on pump gas for a boat that has two 454’s. This one caught my attention. My question is regarding the cam. I have been warned that some automotive cams can cause revision of water in boats. This is where the cam sequences allow the water cooled exhaust to draw water back to the exhaust valves. How would I know if this would be a problem with this cam? I am extremely interested in the combination as the power and torque would be amazing for the current 350hp 454’s the boat has now. Awesome video!
Damn. I wonder what Vizard/Walters could do with a 511-514 Mopar Wedge, with ported Trick Flow 270 heads? I'm a Mopar guy.
Dear Mr. Vizard I like very much all the tech you are sharing with us, I have always been a low bucks guy that likes to optimize my motors and now that you have clarify the cam specs situation I feel I can do better with my stock LS. so my question is have you written a book on what an LS engine likes? and also porting the 862 or 703 head? thanks again for all the tips and knowledge you are sharing with me.
David have you ever tried SV1 carb on a BBC? I have one on my 468 race engine and it works better than any Dominator. I also, have a 1050 dominator #8896. My 468 puts out 800 hp. and 609lbs. torque.
I can't afford aftermarket aluminum heads. I'm stuck with iron oval port closed chamber heads. Could you do a video porting iron oval port closed chamber heads? Thank you.
Try to find a pair of 781 (open chamber) factory cast iron heads ... you can use the closed chamber pistons with no issues (but not vise versa)
Apparently not.
I want one of those
Hot Dog that's impressive!
Good information.
That idle proves its a smal cam
Hi David, did you build this with a short deck block? (9.8") I didn't think you could cram a 4.5" crank in a short deck block. I think I calculated the compression height of the pistons at 1.165" that seems awful tight, but congrats on the motor. I would like to see that in a C4 Vette sleeper. LOL!!!
Yes is it a 9.8 Block?
“Prooven” 😄
What kind of rod length were you able to het with the 4-1/2 inch crank and a short deck block?? Awsum build by the way. I’ve only ever pit 4.25 strokes in the stock blocks. Thanks for the video information Mr Vizard I appreciate them.
He said + 1/4 on rod lenghth
I think that this can also be achieved with a 10.2 tall deck 🤔
@@WestcoastCreole ya you can get some good rod length in there with a tall deck.
@@johnnyatkins9097 yeah but he said using a good stock 454 block. There is no such thing as a factory tall deck 454. 366 snd 427 were the only 2 factory tall decks
@@bcbloc02 yes where the 366 is a small bore block the 427 and 454 share the same 4.25 bore. So you can use them in any application you could use the 454 block in.
Awesome! I'm building a boat engine. Can you do a big bbc with Dart or World iron heads?
Now what cam would you like to see if you took this combo to 14 to1 compression..
And closer to 7800 rpm..
A taller single plane and a 2 in spacer as well..
I have the vortec 8.1 block which is a tall deck so I can use longer rods as well. Also with a bigger head like the afr 325
I would love to see some air cooled VW's!
David have you done any tests on Ford Edsel heads? Bought a kit from Edelbrock aluminum heads and intake for a 428
Where can I purchase your IOP program? I've tried your email and website but have had no response as of yet. Thanks for all the videos.
Thanks David! Just changed my whole engine path lol. Curious as to what piston you used for this combination? Part number?
I’ve got a small block that is a aftermarket block from dart but it’s a 427 with twin 80/85s and we put it on the dyno up at tkm and it made 2.134 horsepower and we stopped that was at 33 pounds of boost and I’ve ran it up to 44 pounds at the track. It runs good but I’d love to build a bbc seems like you can make that kind of power and don’t have to gut it I mean they said mine had a bunch more left in it I just wanted it dependable but we all know race cars are not the only thing you can do is get a good program going with a good crew and try to keep it duck takes together. I have a single gangsta 98 turbo I’m thinking about switching too what’s your thoughts on that it has a Bryant crank mgp aluminuim rods wiseco pistons profiler heads ported and it’s about 12/1 compression Martin Smallwood speced the cam from isky and yes it’s a solid roller turbo cam the valve train is ferea valves t&d rockers pac sprigs smith brothers push rods I also would maybe like to switch from m1 to do a mix of nitromethane but I don’t wanna burn the engine down. It has a 3 speed turbo 400 that’s been build by extreme transmissions. It originally was a rossler 400 but I’ve never delt with them I have all updated electronics msd600 Holley Dominator race pac smart wire vps system I’m very curious about switching turbos and going to a different fuel.
please tell me the cam specs, I have a 511 BBC in a vega wifh a powerglide and a 411 gear, I love torque !