EXCELLENT VIDEO - the kind you want DOZENS of times because you want to absorb EVERY SECOND of it. Excellent EXPLANATION... Excellent TEACHING TECHNIQUE (by using SOUND to gauge quality of stroke) - brilliant! Excellent TEACHING EXECUTION... Heck, Excellent AUDIO QUALITY as well. WHERE WERE YOU 30 YEARS AGO WHEN I NEEDED YOU??? (0h yea, you weren't even BORN yet) IT MADE MY DAY/WEEK TO FIND THIS VIDEO - you've EARNED another subscriber ! ONE COMMENT TO ADD re: WHY-do-you-even-WANT-to-get "the POP": Hitting "the POP" essentially provides the FASTEST possible PACE for the LEAST of amount of ENERGY EXPENDED. Period. IMAGINE you have 2 players - one WITH "pop" and one WITHOUT "pop". SAY that both players are physically EQUIVALENT; then with or without the "pop" they still produce the SAME PACE... ... but for ONE of them this will "COST" MORE in terms of the ENERGY-required-to-produce-pace-per-SHOT. It ALSO will cost the "without pop" player more in terms of DAMAGE-to-LIMBS-per-SHOT. I'm not kidding here ! NOTICE how in the above lines I've described a "COST" In terms of "Cost per SHOT" - THIS IS VITAL TO UNDERSTAND !! IN A SHORT (1 set) friendly match BOTH players COULD conceivably win... but the "With POP" player will be LESS tired and NOT INJURED. IN A LONG (full) competitive match BOTH players COULD win, but likely the "With POP" player has the BEST chance, because by Set 3 the "Without POP" player will finally be EXHAUSTED, while the "With POP" player will still "have gas in the tank" because he's (she's) hitting EFFICIENTLY (no energy wasted). THIS PLAYED OUT IN REALITY DURING MULTIPLE TIMES DURING THE USOPEN 2023 MENS SINGLE QUARTER FINALS UP TO THE CHAMPIONSHIPS: - DJOKOVIC "outlasted" MEDVEDEV for the final - you could SEE it happening; - MEDVEDEV "outlasted" ALCARAZ in the semi-finals - but you could SEE the "cost" each player's method had on himself, as a 28-year-old "outlasted" a 20-year-old in 4 sets; And there were plenty of others in the "bracket play" who also suffered: Alcaraz vs Tiafoe, others. -Mark Vogt (VOGTLAND OUTDOORS)
The most important question is where does the sound come from ? From the Racket, Strings or from the Ball? The loudest pop sound arises from low pressure balls for beginners, which tends to demonstrate that a certain amount of power / energy gets lost into crushing the ball. This may not be the most efficient way to play tennis. I dont care much, seeking poping hits often results in little variation and inspiration in a game.
I've had the bad habit of accelerating too soon much like he's mentioning since I was a kid. The thing that helps me make sure its cleaner is Slow - go or find it then flow. Find the ball at a slower pace and when you get close - then accelerate.
@@ironwilltennis Tomaz (from Feel Tennis) uses "vvvvVVROOOM!!" and likens it to a gradually accelerating sweeping motion when using a broom (and really *sending* something flying). Great work, Will! can't wait to try this!!
Then ball is in contact with the racket for a fraction of a second. From a physics standpoint, acceleration has nothing to do with it. The ball only cares about the speed of the racket when it hits the strings. Doesn’t care what happened before or after. Accelerating may have an impact on form, but that’s a secondary effect. Acceleration in of itself doesn’t matter.
Nice simple and short as always Can you make a video about grips and how you may change grips according the position in the court. Some players in the tour when they attacki g the net they might hold the grip of the racket higher for more control Also i ve noticed that Djokovic does that on serves On the other hand behind the base line i see many young players hold the butt cup in the middle of the hand I m sure is not quit a personal preference Thank you
Would u agree that the acceleration is the key to put away weak attack shots from opponent? Like a weak/neutral change of direction gives an oppurtunity to strike. Meaning as well when changing direction it should be offensive unless opp is weak in attacking shots. It also can set up when the rally is predictable. At the same time the acceleration can be used also against stronger attacking strokes (passing shot ie) thus as a defense stroke. Defense becomes offense. Whereas a pure fast stroke can never become offense in a defensive position (ie lob) Right? However a pure fast stroke with the initiative and good placement can hardly be attacked because of a high tactical advantage. If it is answered with an acceleration shot it will be seen easier and predictable with some practice. It will be either a lob or a sharp/heavy rallyball if the opponent makes it. This is also where i.e fake outs/reversed fake outs at the net can give an advantage since the opp has to choose a side.
The timing of my forehand starts the instant I open/separate my arm from the body. I don’t “take it back !” in the usual traditional sense. It’s what I call a modified volley shot made to look like a forehand. The result is devastating ; and the sound …… unbelievable. I use a continental grip and my shots are very flat and low 4-6 inches above the net) but I still impart plenty of spin where the balls kicks out with tremendous acceleration after it lands….. leaving little time for my opponent to respond . I get a lot of looks from players wondering how I do it. I have my regular hitting partner who tries to copy me but fails miserably because he “takes the racquet back” as usual and then swings full force . He’s never set to reply and if he does ,, his shot is weak and short. Often times , he’s unable to handle the pace of the ball and just attempts a poor slice or lobs it back to me short ! I came up with this way of hitting only 4 weeks ago and developed it ….. tweaking it here and there . One question I had was how does the technique stack up against balls with topspin?? Very easily. What I do is modify the lag …. which includes the left elbow, the shoulders , the upper right arm and the right elbow.
Great video. I would love for you to make a video or share your thoughts on the kind of swing paths that you see pros do that most amateurs don't. I'm talking about the hitting side of the racquet is facing down for the pros after they make contact, whereas for amateurs, it's facing to the left fence. I hope i'm explaining this correctly. The pros seem to internally rotate their forearm/shoulder to accomplish this. Thank you
A factor that is important is what frame are you using, what string are you using...all those matter in the ''pop'' sound my Babolat Rafa Origin sounds completely different then my other Head Gravity MP with the exact same string and tension and gage. Also is the way you hit, if you hit more flat then yes your will have a more ''pop'' sound then a top spin shot, it's not necessarly the acceleration.
Hey Iron Will! Great videos! I saw your return of serve video, but is it possible to do one specifically on how to return a lefty slice serve from both Ad and Deuce side. It seems that even if I get to the ball when it drops short I still either shank it, or the ball comes off my strings wrong where I can’t control the path of the return.
Can you make a video on how to hit low backhand approach shots.( specifically one handed backhands). The only thing missing from my game. Keep up the great videos
Hi Will, I noticed you switched to Pure Strike from V-Core. My guess is that you want the racquet to support some flatter hitting over spin? Gain some easy power, perhaps?
To be honest I loved the vcore 95 but it's a racquet that you have to be fully locked in to use. So with me going back and forth between teaching and playing. It's not a good fit and I didn't want to switch racquets for teaching and playing
Forgot the number 1 tip - play indoors in somewhere with bad sound damping and then it sounds like you are firing a gun :)
Acoustics is everything 😁👍
Also, if you want to sound like a pro at least on recording use good microphones. I was surprised how pro hitting sounds on court vs television.
+ stiff strings and no dampener..
@@ilips6588 really?
hit through 3 balls... that linear motion. Great video I love seeing actual intelligence online!
EXCELLENT VIDEO - the kind you want DOZENS of times because you want to absorb EVERY SECOND of it.
Excellent EXPLANATION...
Excellent TEACHING TECHNIQUE (by using SOUND to gauge quality of stroke) - brilliant!
Excellent TEACHING EXECUTION...
Heck,
Excellent AUDIO QUALITY as well.
WHERE WERE YOU 30 YEARS AGO WHEN I NEEDED YOU???
(0h yea, you weren't even BORN yet)
IT MADE MY DAY/WEEK TO FIND THIS VIDEO - you've EARNED another subscriber !
ONE COMMENT TO ADD re: WHY-do-you-even-WANT-to-get "the POP":
Hitting "the POP" essentially provides the FASTEST possible PACE for the LEAST of amount of ENERGY EXPENDED. Period.
IMAGINE you have 2 players - one WITH "pop" and one WITHOUT "pop".
SAY that both players are physically EQUIVALENT; then with or without the "pop" they still produce the SAME PACE...
... but for ONE of them this will "COST" MORE in terms of the ENERGY-required-to-produce-pace-per-SHOT.
It ALSO will cost the "without pop" player more in terms of DAMAGE-to-LIMBS-per-SHOT. I'm not kidding here !
NOTICE how in the above lines I've described a "COST" In terms of "Cost per SHOT" - THIS IS VITAL TO UNDERSTAND !!
IN A SHORT (1 set) friendly match BOTH players COULD conceivably win... but the "With POP" player will be LESS tired and NOT INJURED.
IN A LONG (full) competitive match BOTH players COULD win, but likely the "With POP" player has the BEST chance, because by Set 3 the "Without POP" player will finally be EXHAUSTED, while the "With POP" player will still "have gas in the tank" because he's (she's) hitting EFFICIENTLY (no energy wasted).
THIS PLAYED OUT IN REALITY DURING MULTIPLE TIMES DURING THE USOPEN 2023 MENS SINGLE QUARTER FINALS UP TO THE CHAMPIONSHIPS:
- DJOKOVIC "outlasted" MEDVEDEV for the final - you could SEE it happening;
- MEDVEDEV "outlasted" ALCARAZ in the semi-finals - but you could SEE the "cost" each player's method had on himself, as a 28-year-old "outlasted" a 20-year-old in 4 sets;
And there were plenty of others in the "bracket play" who also suffered: Alcaraz vs Tiafoe, others.
-Mark Vogt (VOGTLAND OUTDOORS)
Thank you for all the compliments and welcome to the team. By the way, I'm 32 😁 so was around
Accelerate through the ball, my coach always said. But he didn't explain how. I say "place the swoosh sound just in back of the ball". Well done.
Thanks for the compliment 😁 hope it helped
Indoors play always benefits to reach the perfect sound. You missed 90% of the balls LOL. Thanks for the tip!
He wouldn’t in a match. I’m not in a hurry to face him. 😅
The most important question is where does the sound come from ?
From the Racket, Strings or from the Ball?
The loudest pop sound arises from low pressure balls for beginners, which tends to demonstrate that a certain amount of power / energy gets lost into crushing the ball.
This may not be the most efficient way to play tennis.
I dont care much, seeking poping hits often results in little variation and inspiration in a game.
I can’t lie. I just want my shots to sound like that. I’ll never forget the sound of first pro match I saw. Sounded like gunfire
It's definitely a very recognizable sound. But it's a simple thing with good timing and a little practice
Great lesson 👍
Thanks hope it helps
keep doing what you do man
Thank you, I will as long as I can 😁
I've had the bad habit of accelerating too soon much like he's mentioning since I was a kid. The thing that helps me make sure its cleaner is Slow - go or find it then flow. Find the ball at a slower pace and when you get close - then accelerate.
Internal rhythm controls. I like it 👌
@@ironwilltennis Tomaz (from Feel Tennis) uses "vvvvVVROOOM!!" and likens it to a gradually accelerating sweeping motion when using a broom (and really *sending* something flying). Great work, Will! can't wait to try this!!
Working on this. Thanks for the lesson...very helpful!
Good luck, it comes with a little practice 😁 you got it 👍
Then ball is in contact with the racket for a fraction of a second. From a physics standpoint, acceleration has nothing to do with it. The ball only cares about the speed of the racket when it hits the strings. Doesn’t care what happened before or after. Accelerating may have an impact on form, but that’s a secondary effect. Acceleration in of itself doesn’t matter.
Nice simple and short as always
Can you make a video about grips and how you may change grips according the position in the court. Some players in the tour when they attacki g the net they might hold the grip of the racket higher for more control
Also i ve noticed that Djokovic does that on serves
On the other hand behind the base line i see many young players hold the butt cup in the middle of the hand
I m sure is not quit a personal preference
Thank you
Would u agree that the acceleration is the key to put away weak attack shots from opponent? Like a weak/neutral change of direction gives an oppurtunity to strike. Meaning as well when changing direction it should be offensive unless opp is weak in attacking shots.
It also can set up when the rally is predictable.
At the same time the acceleration can be used also against stronger attacking strokes (passing shot ie) thus as a defense stroke. Defense becomes offense. Whereas a pure fast stroke can never become offense in a defensive position (ie lob) Right? However a pure fast stroke with the initiative and good placement can hardly be attacked because of a high tactical advantage. If it is answered with an acceleration shot it will be seen easier and predictable with some practice. It will be either a lob or a sharp/heavy rallyball if the opponent makes it. This is also where i.e fake outs/reversed fake outs at the net can give an advantage since the opp has to choose a side.
Noticed easier to get with a racquet that has a tighter string pattern than one made for spin with a wider string pattern.
I haven't used an 18x20 in years so I wouldn't even remember lol😁
Can you do a video on weight transfer? Including how to time it as well?
Sure thing?
lol@@ironwilltennis
@@ironwilltennis Cool! I'm subbed so can't wait :)
Enjoyed this, thank you. Do you think it's more effective to get this pop when using more of a closed/sideways stance compared to an open one?
Definitely a little easier in the closed in terms of tge weight transfer part
The timing of my forehand starts the instant I open/separate my arm from the body. I don’t “take it back !” in the usual traditional sense. It’s what I call a modified volley shot made to look like a forehand. The result is devastating ; and the sound …… unbelievable. I use a continental grip and my shots are very flat and low 4-6 inches above the net) but I still impart plenty of spin where the balls kicks out with tremendous acceleration after it lands….. leaving little time for my opponent to respond . I get a lot of looks from players wondering how I do it. I have my regular hitting partner who tries to copy me but fails miserably because he “takes the racquet back” as usual and then swings full force . He’s never set to reply and if he does ,, his shot is weak and short. Often times , he’s unable to handle the pace of the ball and just attempts a poor slice or lobs it back to me short !
I came up with this way of hitting only 4 weeks ago and developed it ….. tweaking it here and there . One question I had was how does the technique stack up against balls with topspin?? Very easily. What I do is modify the lag …. which includes the left elbow, the shoulders , the upper right arm and the right elbow.
Nice, you're a revolutionary 😁
Lordbyron, continental on a forehand....nope!!! That's old
@@rosamedouni2656 There’s no such thing as old !! You just don’t know how to hit with it .
Great video. I would love for you to make a video or share your thoughts on the kind of swing paths that you see pros do that most amateurs don't. I'm talking about the hitting side of the racquet is facing down for the pros after they make contact, whereas for amateurs, it's facing to the left fence. I hope i'm explaining this correctly. The pros seem to internally rotate their forearm/shoulder to accomplish this. Thank you
Awesome
Thank you 😁
A factor that is important is what frame are you using, what string are you using...all those matter in the ''pop'' sound my Babolat Rafa Origin sounds completely different then my other Head Gravity MP with the exact same string and tension and gage. Also is the way you hit, if you hit more flat then yes your will have a more ''pop'' sound then a top spin shot, it's not necessarly the acceleration.
for that sound...need a racket too, your strike babolat is proper for that sound!...adn your racordation is important !...What tension do you use?....
Fiyah!
😁 that's what we are going for
Hey Iron Will! Great videos! I saw your return of serve video, but is it possible to do one specifically on how to return a lefty slice serve from both Ad and Deuce side. It seems that even if I get to the ball when it drops short I still either shank it, or the ball comes off my strings wrong where I can’t control the path of the return.
If I can connect with my Good lefty friend I will make it so
@@ironwilltennis thank you!! That would great!!
Can you make a video on how to hit low backhand approach shots.( specifically one handed backhands). The only thing missing from my game. Keep up the great videos
I can definitely do that 👍
What if I follow all these instructions and my ball still sounds like a brown sicklebill songbird
You gotta drink some milk Cameron 😁
@@ironwilltennis on court???
Good
Which string tension do you use?
Right now I'm using 55lbs
@@ironwilltennis cool
Did he actually make any of those shots in?
Not all but most. I kept looking back at the camera 📷 🤣
How do you get less THWACK on a pickle ball? (Besides not playing)
When i hear it i dont need to look to know their really good players!
We all know it when we hear it 😁
Do you start slow and accelerate somewhere in the middle of swing or later just before and through contact?
Slow fast slow
Hi Will, I noticed you switched to Pure Strike from V-Core. My guess is that you want the racquet to support some flatter hitting over spin? Gain some easy power, perhaps?
To be honest I loved the vcore 95 but it's a racquet that you have to be fully locked in to use. So with me going back and forth between teaching and playing. It's not a good fit and I didn't want to switch racquets for teaching and playing
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