PCI Sound Cards That Are Still Relevant in 2022.Are You Still Using One? RE-UPLOAD
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Today i'm taking a look at a few old professional PCI sound cards i had collected over the years and see if they are still working.These are for professional audio music production.If you have one that you are using drop it in the comments as well as any drivers or work arounds you have found for your card or why your prefer these old cards over newer audio interfaces.
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This video bought me nostalgia. These cards were highly valued in their heyday. 😎
I was using the m-audio 2496 in a unbuntu linux pc which worked very well with jack audio. There are linux versions of bitwig, renoise, reaper plus other free open source software. PCI audio cards will have another life in linux.
I made so much music with my 1212m! Now that I know I can do a work-around, I'm going to build a mini pc, fill it with my sound library and get an old-fashioned tracker running to make some Jungle!
hello I also have a 1212m but with an old windows 7...what kind of tinkering does it take to put it in a newer pc with windows 10...?..
@@ekope6396 I'm still in the middle of my build, so your guess is as good as mine at this point. BuuUuUUUuut... there is a link in the description of the video that can point you in the right direction.
@@drumandbassonvinyl thank you
This comment is so awesome...flashback when all we had was Fast Tracker II and a SB or GUS card...where it all began!...love to see your setup when you get it finished, send a few high res pics to me at aclstands@protonmail.com i will post it up on my FB page.
Just found my 1212m today. Still have the original disk too.
The backing music is very good and fitting for the era of sound cards. EMU 1820M running here with Win 11. Solid drivers and low latency. Im runnijg mine with a custom linear PSU. To my ears it sounds better than my FF800. Thank you for this video.
Bro..did you have to do any modification to the driver or software or just run in compatibility mode?
@@FC-xc3zy I think I did have to modify the driver
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Great to hear the 1820m is still working, i had my 1212m working fine in win 10 so that's unreal still going...i have a dedicated offline Win 7 music machine now with the 1212m but awesome to hear about this thanks for commenting and letting us know.
@@RadiAsian what do you mean linear psu? Did you pull it out of the pc case also?
Very interesting video, thanks for putting this together. I have just installed a M-Audio 192 as a replacement of the 2496 and heard a massive improvement. I wouldn't say that the 2496 was average though, as is was already far better than an integrated soundchip, and it has made sound my PC like a good CD Player. Since these cards are affordable now, I'm looking forward try the other cards you are mentionning.
I have used many of these sound cards with Linux, and they run just fine until today. As long as you have a motherboard that supports it! M-Audio 1010LT, EMU-1212m ( I've used both)
Apologies to everyone that posted comments of their soundcards and ones that weren't mentioned on the ACL Stands channel.Please comment on what cards you are using and this will be a repository for all the lost soundcards that are still working.
Why only the small M-audiocards what about the Delta series like the 44, 66 the Delta 1010 lt and the Delta 1010. I still use the Delta 1010 got three of them and one spare unit without the Pci card. I use them with Logic 9 in hackintoshes and at the moment I try to make them work with a Pcie to Pci risercard on modern computers. I do not use midi or softamps, I want the real stuff so it´s a mixer, mics, preamps, small amps and real instruments.
Apologies that's all the cards i had at the time, the other M-Audio cards you mentioned are excellent cards as well, i never owned those ones but i remember reading about the 1010's everywhere back in the day.These early M-Audio cards should be written into the history books because they pretty much were an affordable music studio in a sound card but it was the starting point for so many of us for professional audio production later.
😂i love the 1212m I’m running it my pc I didn’t know it was 24 bit love the 192 kHz. If I’m not mistaken I seen something about the option for 328 or something like that but I never tried it. The funny thing is, as I’m switching over to mac. All the new interfaces look like downgrades
The 1212m sounds very clean an accurate and is comparable to the motu and the rme units of the similar specs.
I'm trying to get some similar price RME like Multiface II to compare with 1820M
Thumbs up for the video (Juli@ user here).
Great stuff man..its' crazy there is official ESi drivers still going for windows 11!
I bought a PCIe to PCI Adapter/Converter to use my Roland RBUS (RPC-1) and the recording pgm Logic 4.7.1 in this Dell 808 Desktop which has only PCIe slots. I am hoping it will work with the Logic 4.7.1 as it is proprietary - if you know of any workarounds please let me inow and Thanks~!
I'm not familiar with that computer, i assume its a newer computer if it has no pci slots...its a bit hit and miss with those adapters there are some cheap ones about and the voltages can differ so so something like the startech adapter looks like it supports the 3.3v and 5v and read reviews from some RME users their old gear worked perfectly with that particular adapter.i see you running an old version of logic so i guess an old os like win xp or something like that will be installed.I see the roland supports xp drivers as well.
M audio delta 1010lt not working
This was a post i pulled from the SOS site from a user
Re: delta 1010 windows 10
Post by BassSpy » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:36 am
Sorry, way late to this forum, and I generally don't participate in forums in general..
However, I have to say that I've had zero problems when running my old Delta 1010 (breakout box version) on Windows 10. Works great, but you don't get the M-Audio control panel in the task bar.
Here are some tips to get the old beast working on Windows 10.. and I'll include a few other tips after.
Download the Delta 6.0.8 drivers (I believe they are Windows 7 drivers.. It's been a while).
www.m-audio.com/support/download ... elta-6.0.8
In Windows 10, extract the files to a location of your choosing.
Right click on Delta_6_0_8.exe file.
Select Properties
Click the check box in Compatibility Mode for "Run this program in compatibility mode for and select "Windows 7" from the drop down. Click Apply, then Ok.
Next, Right click on the Delta_6_0_8.exe file and select "Run as Administrator".
Follow the instructions. You may need to have a reboot to get the device up and running.
If this forum allowed pics, I'd show a few to ease the process along.
Please note that I haven't performed this operation since Windows 10 came out, so I may be mistaken. If this doesn't work, try running in Compatibility for Windows 8 (eeew, I know).
I'm a fan of this audio setup. I did my first awesome professional sounding recordings on it, so I hope those of you who still have the old machines with PCI can make use of this info.
Good luck. I might check in to see if anyone managed to make use of it. BTW, the midi works fine as well.
It's also recognized in both Reaper and SoundForge Pro 11, with full ASIO support.
Enjoy!
BassSpy
Super cool video. 👍👍👍
I also made a video about July@
How did you get the drivers to work on Windows 10? I had my 1616m working for the past 4 years. The latest firmware update from my computer manufacturer broke my drivers for some reason. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling. Still only getting one wave in and one adat in. The dock is all grayed out in the patchmix program. I also get a message saying I don’t have enough hardware when I try to open previous saved sessions that were in 44.1 and had dock channels used. Any idea of how I can get this working immediately?
first be sure to remove any directories in program files or system and any in registry...then i would follow this guide scroll down to the last post by clubhousekey this is in response to a similar hardware error on 1820 but should be the same and follow that guide www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=371831&start=180
I just bought a used ESI Juli and I'm having trouble installing the driver, can't ESI July be used on Win 7 32 bit?
download.esi-audio.com/?w=esi&p=6&g=1&l=en
heloo I'm currently in the mid of using @julia esi .
the only problem is
I use pcie to pci card from wiretek
and instal everythings and modifying my cpu case until @julia is detected on my win 10 ghost spectre superlite.
everythings look okay driver are okay signal are okay
good detected on my new hardware
gigabyte h61 ds 2 and 13 gen 3
but sounds output isn:t there ..no voices not a thing from my kruzwel monitors speakers.
any clue or any help from you would be appreciated
thank you
So the card is recognized and showing signal through the control panel, but just nothing out of speakers....it sounds like a routing issue then, just double check the input and outputs and config on the panel, from memory there are also mute buttons which should not be enabled...disable any other sound devices like internal if you haven;t already.What kurzweil speakers are they? remember the julia has balanced and unbalanced connections which can be swapped, so you could try that additionally to match the speakers...you should still get some sound though regardless but something else to try.
How can I make M Audio 192 AP work on AM4 platform? I tried pciex1 to pci adapter but my PC wont recognize the soundcard at all. I'd appreciate any help you can give me.
Is it possible it could be conflicting with another card if there is any...remove your other cards if any and test it i would try this first...linux pc's may have an issue with these cards hot and miss according to a few user reviews they couldn't get it to recognize their cards...when they tested the card in windows pc it worked though
@@memoryflash3687 Only other card I have is GPU. The only solution with previous AM3 platform was to disable on board sound and then reinstall drivers for AP 192 so that Win 10 can recognize it as valid. But this time no such luck with AM4.
A workstation board I just bought has a PCI slot, and I'm wondering if there's anything worthwhile I can do with it. I don't actually do any audio production, so I don't actually need a pro sound card, but are there any PCI sound cards that aren't super expensive that still properly support Windows 11?
By properly, I mean things like not having to disable Virtualization-Based Security.
they may or may not properly support it, i can't say for sure on windows 11 because most of the old pci cards will work on vista and win 7 with official drivers up until those OS but i was running old M-Audio cards on win 10 no issues but they were a bit flaky with the occasional bsod.that being said i would probably look at the ESI juli@ card with official windows 11 drivers or even some of the other ESI cards like say the maya 44 they have official support for win 10 so that would be your best bet and usually cheaper than the juli@ cards.Other than that i can't say what other cards are supported with win 11 properly apart from other high end stuff if i recall the lynx audio stuff has current support as well but pricey.
There are drivers even on Windows 11 for infrasonic quartet, using it with ASIO 2.2 on win11
The win7/8 driver the last official driver I found on their website, obviously still working.thanks that's good to know.i had mine working on a win 7 machine so didn't test it.a lot of win 7 cards work on win 10 and 11 with an older driver, some better than others.
In my home studio, I use an EMU-1616m. It is compatible with Windows 10. It's a great сard, the sound is clear and focused. And even there are thoughts of buying the same one on the secondary market, in reserve. Is it worth doing this? Thank you for this video.
I had 1616M, recaped all the big capacitors to decent Rubycon capacitors(only Mouser, Digikey etc., ebay aliexpress are fake caps) and it sounded so good. Very low jitter and proper clean sound.
Right now i have 1820M, also some mods like capacitors, output caps on one output bridged, the sound skyrocketed after capacitors, not even funny. I had those Focusrite 2i2 and some other like UM22 and Gina but this is no joke and i'll get another for backup. Recapping is a must to high class caps.
In short, get another!
@@kresimirsokre6536 i second this comment..preserve these cards...they kick ass!