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What’s amazing is CJU is basically a single runway operation for both arrival and departure. There is a second runway but it has a very limited operation envelope.
As a Korean avgeek who lives in Jeju, I'm excited that somebody's actually making a video about the GMP - CJU route Fun fact: Jeju has a route to almost all domestic airports in South Korea
I flown on the Seoul Gimpo to Jeju route on Asiana Airlines, the flight to Jeju on an A330-300 and the return on the 767-300. The tourism there is so good, no wonder why it has many flights operated by all the Korean carriers.
Beijing-Shanhai now won't be busiest plane route anymore, the high speed train take over is really fast. 600+ sets of train in both direction daily, 4-6 hours one way travel time. Busan is the same thing because you didn't count the KTX into the play.
I had a friend who would use his SW Airlines job to bring buddies from Chicago-MDW to Vegas. Just for a weekend. For dudes in their twenties, that was like being a King lol
Attended a conference on Jeju in July. Beautiful area! I don't completely understand the lack of any flights from ICN though. I get Gimpo is much more of a domestic hub, but it is time consuming for international visitors to get off at ICN, get on a train (or bus) for ~45 minutes, and re check-in and go back through security at GMP. If it's a ploy to get tourists to spend time in Seoul, it worked, but it made my trip as a whole more time consuming and expensive. Having a small handful of the zillion gmp-cju flights leave from ICN instead would've smoothed the trip and connection out significantly.
ICN has WAY too many problems for flights to Jeju.The entire right and left wing of ICN is owned by Korean and Asiana Airlines, so they would have to use the central section of the airport, which is expensive, and is too mall to handle the capacity.
I heard the government strategically limited the roles of each airport. When ICN opened, all the international routes were moved to ICN and only short int'l routes and domestic routes remained at GMP. Plus GMP has curfew so it seems logical I guess. But yeah I don't understand why there is no ICN-CJU flight...? like they have something called 내항기 that connects ICN to other domestic airports.
The only airstrip that's actually close to seoul is for military only. ICN is located too far from Seoul. Korean bureaucracy is absurd and it's infested with North Korean spies.
The low cost option of vacation for Seoul inhabitants seems to be Da Nang in Vietnam, also a beach city. There's 98 flights a week between the 2 cities, more than Seoul to Vietnam's economic capital Saigon (84) and Vietnam's political capital Hanoi (83).
I was in Da Nang 2 years ago and it felt like 40% of tourists there were Indians, another 40% were Koreans and everyone else was the remaining 20%. I’m probably exaggerating, but it felt like that.
서울에서 제주도로 가는 루트는 4가지 정도를 생각해볼 수 있습니다. 1. 도로 : 영상에서도 알려진 바와 같이, 현재 제주도와 한반도 본토는 연결된 다리가 없습니다. 2. 철도 : 영상에서도 알려진 바와 같이, 마찬가지로 제주도와 한반도 본토를 잇는 해저 터널이 없습니다. 3. 배 : 한반도 남부 지역에서 제주도를 운항하는 배는 현재 운행하고 있습니다. 약 3~4시간이 소요됩니다. 한 편, 인천(서울)에서 제주도로 가는 야간 페리도 존재하였으나, 2014년에 침몰된 이후 노선이 소실되었습니다. 최근 노선 운항을 재개하였으나, 이 침몰 사건을 아직도 기억하고 있는 한국인들이 많아서 자주 쓰이는 루트는 아닙니다. 4. 항공 : 남은 건 이것 밖에 없습니다. 속도도 빠릅니다. 빠르면 45분 정도면 도착할 수 있습니다. 굳이 다른 걸 이용해야할 이유를 모르겠군요.
There is actually a ferry route (again) between Seoul and Jeju (it's starting from Incheon harbor), but it's in no way competitive in terms of time & price to air travel
The NYC/New York/JFK to London (Heathrow) route. I've known folks who fly that route for a Friday-through Sunday 'weekend vacation' in London. Its about a 4-hour flight, faster than NYC to the USA's west coast. A lot of NYC folks also fly to London for Christmas shopping trips. And Paris was only about a half-hour longer flight. Like Seoul/Jegu its another interesting travel route. Another that used to be popular is surfers on the USA west coast would fly to Hawaii (5 hour flight from Los Angeles or San Francisco) for a Thursday-Sunday surf trip if they knew some good waves were going to be hitting the Hawaiian shoreline.
In what world is New York London EVER four hours???? It's always between 7-9 and longer than any flight from nyc to the US west coast. Not sure what you're talking about.
@@corner559 하지만 747-400이 퇴역해서 더이상 747 제주행 정기편은 볼 수 없습니다. 가끔 기상악화로 비행편이 모두 취소된 이후 공항에 남겨진 많은 사람들을 다시 서울로 수송할 때 747-8이 오긴 하지만, 대한항공 747이나 380은 딱히 좌석수가 777에 비해 많지 않아서 제주에 747이 잘 들어오지는 않습니다.
I think he meant affordable to fly to, tickets from the mainland to Jeju are fairly inexpensive. Although honestly, I've visited Jeju twice and the cost of being there is pretty comparable to the rest of South Korea. Of course Vietnam, or any other SE Asian nation, is cheaper if you're planning to stay longer than just a few days.
Why? It's a major airport in Russia (ik you know, you're probably Russian based on your name). He probably chose it because it's a nice stock video, not because it was DME. He probably doesn't even know Domodedovo.
To summarize, as you can see on the map, Jeju Island is not a land under the Korean Peninsula, but an island, so roads or railroads are not connected. There is a way to drill the undersea tunnel, but it is not easy because the distance is surprisingly long. In the case of Busan, the second city, there is little need to take a plane because the railroad is well installed, while the way to go from Seoul to Jeju Island is by boat or plane. However, because airplanes are cheap and much faster, people traveling from Seoul to Jeju Island or from Jeju Island to Seoul use this Gimpo-Jeju route a lot. In particular, Koreans are busy because they like to travel very much. Of course, recently, they have not traveled to Jeju Island as much as before in Korea, but they still do a lot, so the title of the world's busiest air route is rarely broken.
2:16 This is really interesting point implying why the number between GMP and Jeju is the highest in Korea. It is related to the system of high-speed train, KTX.(It is same with TGV in france) There are 3 representative way to go fro Seoul to Busan. The bus, the train including KTX and the flight. The first takes about 6 hrs, the second does about 2.75hrs for KTX or 5~6hrs for non high speed and the last does over 1 hr. It is sure that the last is the fastest way but the price would be 1.5 ~2 times higher than KTX It seems that the price looks reasonable. But you can go to Busan much more often. There are over 20 KTX trains per a day to Busan. Also the KTX was open and first adopted 20 years ago, 2004. I remembered that the price was quite high and non affordable to everyone. It could be a gossip to your schoolmates that you took KTX once or much more times. However, Gdp per capita increased over double. Also the ticket of price doesnt show dramatic increase. Im not sure of exact number but it might be only about 20% increase from 2004 to now. The growing demand of corporating one-day life, relative low price and increased personal wealth skyrocketed the usage of KTX and thats why the fligh from Seoul to Jeju is kinda low
That is NOT native Hawaiian pronounciation. The Hawaiian language does not have the letter "V". The correct pronunciation is with the letter "W". As the story goes, when caucasian missionaries came to Hawaii, many were of German descent and they brought their pronounciations with them. Pronounciations which were adopted by and encouraged by the monarchy at the time thinking that the Caucasians were "so much smarter and more advanced, they certainly must be right." Soon, using the "V" sound for the "W" became seen as one who was more cultured and aristocratic. Fortunately, we have come to realize that this was ugly colonialism at its worst and have reverted (mostly) to pronouncing words as they are spelled. For irrefutable evidence, do a Google search for "captain cook Owhyhee map". It will show a map by Captain Cook's cartographer made back in the 1700's before any known western contact and it illustrates the name of the Big Island being spelled "Owhyhee". Cook's cartographer used the phonetic spelling as he heard it from the native Hawaiians and used the letter "W". Since the British also had the letter "V", if that's how the cartographer heard it, that's how he would have written it, but he didn't because he heard it with the "W" sound.@@Broadvay
316 km suitable for air travel? Honey please... That's still in the area of train travel being more convenient. Also that could have been said early on in the video. *That refering to the presence of high speed rail in Korea, which I thought would be one of the first things to say about why there are less flights on those domestic routes but here we area😂
Meanwhile Scoot now flies from SIN to Melaka/Malacca (using E190-E2s), which is barely 200km. Wonder if the latter gave significant financial incentives, because its airport hitherto had no scheduled flights since the pandemic
@@Squaretable22 Not really, the air travel for the route does justify it, but I do recall reading about the lack of such a tunnel and I believe it was that Jeju politicians didn't want to rely on the mainland.
wow I didn't know that And I didn't expect someone would make vidio about our country's flight route yeah jeju is very popular in south korea and its becoming kind of overpopulated
Jeju is so popular, Koreans are flocking to Phu Quoc and other island resorts as an alternative. Jin Air’s PHQ route was upgraded to 777 on some flights for NW24 season
south koreans just fit jeju in the flight route that overseas planes fly to seoul maybe even planes arriving at seoul from the north like beijing or europe travels down to jeju and come back up to get seoul
What you said in the video is just one reason of 2. The other reason is, flights heading south from Seoul is also using the exact same route since both Y711 and Y722 passes right over Jeju.
No international flight route would be anywhere near the busiest in the world, JFK to London,. NO WAY. Not even close. But, you might consider doing a video on the busiest international flight routes. Take care!
Jfk to London Heathrow. 1. British airways 2. Virgin Atlantic 3. JetBlue 4. American Airlines 5. Delta It’s very busy, and this is just jfk to London Heathrow. Now add any airport in the New York área to any airport in loneonS
@@SYDAirlineEnthusiast With Newark, LaGuardia, Gatwick, Stansted and Luton taken into consideration (although some don't fly to New York/London), we get... 1. British Airways 2. Virgin Atlantic 3. American Airlines 4. Delta Air Lines 5. JetBlue 6. Norse Atlantic Airways 7. United Airlines
Seoul Metropolitan area has a population of 25M, and they don't have a domestic vacation place except for Jeju. Also, Jeju island itself has a population of 0.6M, and they regularly visit their families in the mainland.
Crazy thing is that Korean airliners reduced the number of flights to Jeju so that they could make more money from longer international flights. Latest news says so...
There are so many better naturally beautiful vacation spots in South Korea, you wrote it as if Jeju is the only place. It is just that Jeju is an island so you cant ride a train or car there. Simple.
Pronouncing Hawaii "Hah Veh Ee" is like speaking in English but saying "Paree" (Paris), "Mooonchen" (Munich) or "Masskva" (Moscow). "Oh but it's pronouncing it the CORRECT way" - uh no, in English, it's Hawaii. The Turks recently told the world to stop calling them Turkey and instead Turkiye (Turr-key-yeah). Funny, as they continue to call England > (WRONG and OffenSiVe!!!) Different languages have different ways of pronouncing and naming places, and that is okay. Hawaii is pretty similar to Hahvahee, it doesn't achieve anything other than false virtue.
I think it depends imo. As a native Japanese I will pronounce Japanese cities and words in native pronunciation even if I'm speaking in english. Either way, I think if someone get's genuinely offended by someone using their native pronunciations I think there's something wrong with them. It's such a weird thing to get pressed about.
Unless the destination can attract an equal no. of tourists from countries with different school holiday periods? E.g. Singapore's longest school holidays are in June & Dec, about 1 & 0.5 month earlier than many other countries
When you go to Jeju airport, you can feel it is damn so crowded. The capacity is so full that they are building a 2nd airport on the southern coast (2035 open).
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A flight each 8 minutes is insane, it's a higher frequency than the subway in my city lol
my friend missed a flight but got on the next one just like catching a next bus
Fun fact, it's quicker to catch flight to Seoul than waiting bus from Jeju to Seogwipo
Because we don't have bullet train going under Jeju strait
Straight
@@aiodajodjioasdja no
factos
Very simple explanation 👏😂
@@aiodajodjioasdja Dire Straits
Chinese and Japanese also travels to Jeju quite often for vacation, and usually visit Seoul after, another factor of the frequent flights.
What’s amazing is CJU is basically a single runway operation for both arrival and departure. There is a second runway but it has a very limited operation envelope.
Didn’t expect to see a fellow Jeju resident here.
That's crazy...and sounds like such a headache for ATC at peak hours when there's a flight departing to Seoul alone every 8 minutes.
As a Korean avgeek who lives in Jeju, I'm excited that somebody's actually making a video about the GMP - CJU route
Fun fact: Jeju has a route to almost all domestic airports in South Korea
I was amazed nobody had made it already.
오 맞네요. 저는 한국인이지만 신기하네요.
I flown on the Seoul Gimpo to Jeju route on Asiana Airlines, the flight to Jeju on an A330-300 and the return on the 767-300. The tourism there is so good, no wonder why it has many flights operated by all the Korean carriers.
Beijing-Shanhai now won't be busiest plane route anymore, the high speed train take over is really fast. 600+ sets of train in both direction daily, 4-6 hours one way travel time. Busan is the same thing because you didn't count the KTX into the play.
KTX,SRT,새마을,무궁화,누리로,ITX😅
MEL-SYD was crazy - literally would fly to Sydney for shopping and lunch then be home for dinner 😂
I had a friend who would use his SW Airlines job to bring buddies from Chicago-MDW to Vegas. Just for a weekend. For dudes in their twenties, that was like being a King lol
Food is better in MEL
Qantas, virgin Australia, Rex, and Jetstar fly this route. I literally see a bunch of Melbourne to Sydney flights at least once an hourZ
@@N1120Ai once flew from Sydney to Auckland. Spent the day there, and came back to Sydney the next morning.
@@SYDAirlineEnthusiastRex are not flying capital city routes anymore.
Attended a conference on Jeju in July. Beautiful area! I don't completely understand the lack of any flights from ICN though. I get Gimpo is much more of a domestic hub, but it is time consuming for international visitors to get off at ICN, get on a train (or bus) for ~45 minutes, and re check-in and go back through security at GMP. If it's a ploy to get tourists to spend time in Seoul, it worked, but it made my trip as a whole more time consuming and expensive. Having a small handful of the zillion gmp-cju flights leave from ICN instead would've smoothed the trip and connection out significantly.
ICN has WAY too many problems for flights to Jeju.The entire right and left wing of ICN is owned by Korean and Asiana Airlines, so they would have to use the central section of the airport, which is expensive, and is too mall to handle the capacity.
I heard the government strategically limited the roles of each airport. When ICN opened, all the international routes were moved to ICN and only short int'l routes and domestic routes remained at GMP. Plus GMP has curfew so it seems logical I guess. But yeah I don't understand why there is no ICN-CJU flight...? like they have something called 내항기 that connects ICN to other domestic airports.
would have been easier if you made a transfer in Japan or China
The only airstrip that's actually close to seoul is for military only. ICN is located too far from Seoul. Korean bureaucracy is absurd and it's infested with North Korean spies.
Sometimes they tried to operate ICN-CJU route but fail due to low demand.
Simple: a majority/plurality of people prefer to take the KTX high speed train to other domestic destinations or drive, than to fly.
The low cost option of vacation for Seoul inhabitants seems to be Da Nang in Vietnam, also a beach city. There's 98 flights a week between the 2 cities, more than Seoul to Vietnam's economic capital Saigon (84) and Vietnam's political capital Hanoi (83).
I was in Da Nang 2 years ago and it felt like 40% of tourists there were Indians, another 40% were Koreans and everyone else was the remaining 20%. I’m probably exaggerating, but it felt like that.
@tarzan12345 As I'm korean, Da Nang is 2nd famous city for korean.
*Ha-Va-E* ✨✨✨✨ (Hawaii)
It's W, not V.
SÁ-po-ro 😅
That’s the correct pronunciation btw. I always cringe when someone say it the colonizer way 😅
You should visit Jeju sometime, it will all make sense.
서울에서 제주도로 가는 루트는 4가지 정도를 생각해볼 수 있습니다.
1. 도로 : 영상에서도 알려진 바와 같이, 현재 제주도와 한반도 본토는 연결된 다리가 없습니다.
2. 철도 : 영상에서도 알려진 바와 같이, 마찬가지로 제주도와 한반도 본토를 잇는 해저 터널이 없습니다.
3. 배 : 한반도 남부 지역에서 제주도를 운항하는 배는 현재 운행하고 있습니다. 약 3~4시간이 소요됩니다. 한 편, 인천(서울)에서 제주도로 가는 야간 페리도 존재하였으나, 2014년에 침몰된 이후 노선이 소실되었습니다. 최근 노선 운항을 재개하였으나, 이 침몰 사건을 아직도 기억하고 있는 한국인들이 많아서 자주 쓰이는 루트는 아닙니다.
4. 항공 : 남은 건 이것 밖에 없습니다. 속도도 빠릅니다. 빠르면 45분 정도면 도착할 수 있습니다. 굳이 다른 걸 이용해야할 이유를 모르겠군요.
차랑 같이 움직이거나 비행기를 극도로 무서워하는 게 아니거나 유아 동반이 아니면 배 탈 일 없긴해요😂
가격 차이는 좀 나지만 시간 차이가 워낙 커서
세월호는 니 뇌피셜아니냐
세월호는 사건 자체 보다 정부의 대처에 국민들이 더 큰 충격을 받았지.. 지금도 이해할 수 없는 사건임.
Gimpo-Jeju's timetable is almost equivalent to that of city buses. (Except for city buses in Seoul, of course. It goes around a lot more often.)
I flew this route from Seoul to Jeju and back when I visited South Korea last year. The Jeju food, landscapes, and culture are amazing
There is actually a ferry route (again) between Seoul and Jeju (it's starting from Incheon harbor), but it's in no way competitive in terms of time & price to air travel
I'm Korean but I didn't even know Jeju-Seoul is the busiest flight route in the world. so I guess RUclips algorithm somehow decided to educate me LOL
1:22 the City is called S A pporo and not Sopporo
Also it's Fukuoka
I always thought that KUL - SIN is the most busiest flight route, until i realised this video is about the most busiest domestic flight route...
Even when considering international and domestic routes together, KUL-SIN is not within top 10 for passenger count.
@@cpux64 May be it want make beat a somewhat compition.
It’s not about domestics flight, it’s about the busiest route of all flight routes including both international and domestic flights.
This video is not about the busiest domestic flight route. It's about the busiest flight route of any kind
Not just domestic count the most busiest air route it is
1:21 you misspelled Fukuoka
About to comment this
There is sea ferry service to Jeju Island, but it's primarily from the southern coastline.
Well he did said that there's no ferry line from Seoul to Jeju.
@@nntflow7058 Actually, there is an overnight ferry service from Incheon port west of Seoul to Jeju City.
@@Sacto1654 I can't find it for the life of me. Which ferry was it?
@@nntflow7058 한 때 세월호라고 하는 인천에서 제주까지 가는 페리가 있었지만, 2014년에 침몰했습니다.
@@gqjiwoerkwqty그 사건 이후 2020년 즈음에 새로운 선박으로 운항을 다시 시작했습니다.
There are flights from Seoul incheon to jeju btw, operated by 5 airlines, Asiana, korean, airbusan, and Jeju air
6:05 Why is there a turquoise rock in the water?
Thank you so much for explaining WHY GMP-CJU! I had no clue there are no flights from ICN
Thanks for watching
ICN is for international, while GMP is for domestic and some short international
The NYC/New York/JFK to London (Heathrow) route. I've known folks who fly that route for a Friday-through Sunday 'weekend vacation' in London. Its about a 4-hour flight, faster than NYC to the USA's west coast. A lot of NYC folks also fly to London for Christmas shopping trips. And Paris was only about a half-hour longer flight. Like Seoul/Jegu its another interesting travel route.
Another that used to be popular is surfers on the USA west coast would fly to Hawaii (5 hour flight from Los Angeles or San Francisco) for a Thursday-Sunday surf trip if they knew some good waves were going to be hitting the Hawaiian shoreline.
In what world is New York London EVER four hours???? It's always between 7-9 and longer than any flight from nyc to the US west coast. Not sure what you're talking about.
Sopporo and Fukuoko are hilarious, I must admit.
also noticed. imagine we could have gotten Takya :)
@@whiskeysk To balance it out, heh
And there are also wide-body flights on this route! I have flown this route with a T'way A330, Jin Air 777, and also an Asiana 767!
+ korean air B747-400 B777
Korean Air sometimes flies the 747 on this route. And they're always packed.
@@corner559 하지만 747-400이 퇴역해서 더이상 747 제주행 정기편은 볼 수 없습니다. 가끔 기상악화로 비행편이 모두 취소된 이후 공항에 남겨진 많은 사람들을 다시 서울로 수송할 때 747-8이 오긴 하지만, 대한항공 747이나 380은 딱히 좌석수가 777에 비해 많지 않아서 제주에 747이 잘 들어오지는 않습니다.
I've flown to Jeju from Busan twice.. 50 minute flight time.. very convenient
Damn, I’m Korean and I’ve been to Jeju a lot, but I never thought it was the world’s busiest route 😅😂
Local Korean here.
3:03 Not affordable at all 😅 Way cheaper to go to Vietnam
I think he meant affordable to fly to, tickets from the mainland to Jeju are fairly inexpensive. Although honestly, I've visited Jeju twice and the cost of being there is pretty comparable to the rest of South Korea. Of course Vietnam, or any other SE Asian nation, is cheaper if you're planning to stay longer than just a few days.
0:08 a Domodedovo footage?
That one surprised me.
Why? It's a major airport in Russia (ik you know, you're probably Russian based on your name). He probably chose it because it's a nice stock video, not because it was DME. He probably doesn't even know Domodedovo.
To summarize, as you can see on the map, Jeju Island is not a land under the Korean Peninsula, but an island, so roads or railroads are not connected. There is a way to drill the undersea tunnel, but it is not easy because the distance is surprisingly long. In the case of Busan, the second city, there is little need to take a plane because the railroad is well installed, while the way to go from Seoul to Jeju Island is by boat or plane. However, because airplanes are cheap and much faster, people traveling from Seoul to Jeju Island or from Jeju Island to Seoul use this Gimpo-Jeju route a lot. In particular, Koreans are busy because they like to travel very much. Of course, recently, they have not traveled to Jeju Island as much as before in Korea, but they still do a lot, so the title of the world's busiest air route is rarely broken.
I visited Seoul Gimpo Aurport a coupel days ago, planes went and came like every 2 minutes or smth lol 😆 extremely busy haha
2:16
This is really interesting point implying why the number between GMP and Jeju is the highest in Korea. It is related to the system of high-speed train, KTX.(It is same with TGV in france)
There are 3 representative way to go fro Seoul to Busan. The bus, the train including KTX and the flight. The first takes about 6 hrs, the second does about 2.75hrs for KTX or 5~6hrs for non high speed and the last does over 1 hr. It is sure that the last is the fastest way but the price would be 1.5 ~2 times higher than KTX
It seems that the price looks reasonable. But you can go to Busan much more often. There are over 20 KTX trains per a day to Busan.
Also the KTX was open and first adopted 20 years ago, 2004. I remembered that the price was quite high and non affordable to everyone. It could be a gossip to your schoolmates that you took KTX once or much more times. However, Gdp per capita increased over double. Also the ticket of price doesnt show dramatic increase. Im not sure of exact number but it might be only about 20% increase from 2004 to now. The growing demand of corporating one-day life, relative low price and increased personal wealth skyrocketed the usage of KTX and thats why the fligh from Seoul to Jeju is kinda low
KL - Singapore ?
So Jeju is the Majorca of Korea?
Lmao it's probably better with no brits there.
*I've filmed full flights of gimpo to jeju on the 747, it's mostly couples going there from Seoul*
Yeah, I think it's where most South Koreans go for honeymoons.
I remember the 2002 FIFA World Cup, Jeju had the coolest-looking amongst all the Korean venues. For Japan it was Kobe and Sapporo.
All those ‘heavy’ category planes are flown in that route. Triple-7s for 30 minute travel.
Calling a 316 km distance "suitable for air travel" is crazy. Otherwise, good video.
Less than 2 hours in a fast train
Jeju is an island and there's no land bridge.
It is a suitable distance for air travel !
@@jwchris79 He meant Busan, not Jeju in the video.
How many times can one fly between Gimpo and Jeju in one day? (Min 20 mins layovers)
1. LJ501 GMP 0605 -> CJU 0715
2. ZE202 CJU 0735 -> GMP 0845
3. LJ511 GMP 0905 -> CJU 1015
4. KE1174 CJU 1035 -> GMP 1145
5. 7C117 GMP 1215 -> CJU 1325
6. 7C120 CJU 1345 -> GMP 1500
7. OZ8973 GMP 1520 -> CJU 1630
8. KE1278 CJU 1700 -> GMP 1810
9. OZ8983 GMP 1835 -> CJU 1945
10. LJ528 CJU 2005 -> GMP 2115
It was always the Korean GMP-CJU flight at no.1 and won’t come down for a very long time I presume..
0:32 looks as dense as VATSIM cross-fire event. I would suggest that to VATKOR.
Hevayi? It’s Hawaii honey
AI generated speech
No, it's the native Hawaiian pronunciation.
Why use the native pronunciation for Hawaii but not for other places mentioned in the video such as Korea or Japan? Love your videos btw.
That is NOT native Hawaiian pronounciation. The Hawaiian language does not have the letter "V". The correct pronunciation is with the letter "W". As the story goes, when caucasian missionaries came to Hawaii, many were of German descent and they brought their pronounciations with them. Pronounciations which were adopted by and encouraged by the monarchy at the time thinking that the Caucasians were "so much smarter and more advanced, they certainly must be right." Soon, using the "V" sound for the "W" became seen as one who was more cultured and aristocratic. Fortunately, we have come to realize that this was ugly colonialism at its worst and have reverted (mostly) to pronouncing words as they are spelled. For irrefutable evidence, do a Google search for "captain cook Owhyhee map". It will show a map by Captain Cook's cartographer made back in the 1700's before any known western contact and it illustrates the name of the Big Island being spelled "Owhyhee". Cook's cartographer used the phonetic spelling as he heard it from the native Hawaiians and used the letter "W". Since the British also had the letter "V", if that's how the cartographer heard it, that's how he would have written it, but he didn't because he heard it with the "W" sound.@@Broadvay
@@joelpozin5498 gets complicated as I'm sure you could imagine
316 km suitable for air travel? Honey please... That's still in the area of train travel being more convenient. Also that could have been said early on in the video.
*That refering to the presence of high speed rail in Korea, which I thought would be one of the first things to say about why there are less flights on those domestic routes but here we area😂
I don't know if an 85km tunnel underneath the seabed would be profitable though... Especially given the problems the Channel Tunnel experienced
Meanwhile Scoot now flies from SIN to Melaka/Malacca (using E190-E2s), which is barely 200km. Wonder if the latter gave significant financial incentives, because its airport hitherto had no scheduled flights since the pandemic
@@Squaretable22 Not really, the air travel for the route does justify it, but I do recall reading about the lack of such a tunnel and I believe it was that Jeju politicians didn't want to rely on the mainland.
wow I didn't know that
And I didn't expect someone would make vidio about our country's flight route
yeah jeju is very popular in south korea
and its becoming kind of overpopulated
Why not? It's famous.
Jeju is so popular, Koreans are flocking to Phu Quoc and other island resorts as an alternative. Jin Air’s PHQ route was upgraded to 777 on some flights for NW24 season
Watch the route GMP(Seoul) CJU (Jeju) , PUS(BUSAN) CJU at the same time, you can realize how busy airport CJU is..
Havaii?
I was not expecting my man to break out an almost-correct native pronunciation of Hawai’i.
south koreans just fit jeju in the flight route that overseas planes fly to seoul maybe even planes arriving at seoul from the north like beijing or europe travels down to jeju and come back up to get seoul
What you said in the video is just one reason of 2. The other reason is, flights heading south from Seoul is also using the exact same route since both Y711 and Y722 passes right over Jeju.
No international flight route would be anywhere near the busiest in the world, JFK to London,. NO WAY. Not even close. But, you might consider doing a video on the busiest international flight routes. Take care!
Jfk to London Heathrow.
1. British airways
2. Virgin Atlantic
3. JetBlue
4. American Airlines
5. Delta
It’s very busy, and this is just jfk to London Heathrow. Now add any airport in the New York área to any airport in loneonS
the busiest international route is actually KLIA and Changi
@@SYDAirlineEnthusiast
With Newark, LaGuardia, Gatwick, Stansted and Luton taken into consideration (although some don't fly to New York/London), we get...
1. British Airways
2. Virgin Atlantic
3. American Airlines
4. Delta Air Lines
5. JetBlue
6. Norse Atlantic Airways
7. United Airlines
너무 많은 사람들이 너무 저렴한 가격으로 올수있기 때문이다. 나는 저번에 서울에서 제주도까지 20달러정도로 비행했다. 이게 말이 되나? 서울에서 부산가는것보다 제주도가는것이 더 싸고 더 빠르다. 그러니까 당연히 제주도에 가는것이다. 비행가격을 올려야한다.
너무 많은 사람들이 제주도에 오기 때문에 제주도는 너무 빠르게 망가지고있다. 이것은 제주도사람,서울사람 모두에게 안좋다
@@QWER-wv5kn In the US it takes $2k for an economy round trip to Seoul every single time, its so pricy to go back
Seoul Metropolitan area has a population of 25M, and they don't have a domestic vacation place except for Jeju. Also, Jeju island itself has a population of 0.6M, and they regularly visit their families in the mainland.
Why are you comparing NYC to London with a domestic flight? Wouldn't NYC to LAX be a better comparison for the US?
The absolutely worst landing I’ve ever had was on this route. My only moment that I thought I was going to die on an airplane.
Crazy thing is that Korean airliners reduced the number of flights to Jeju so that they could make more money from longer international flights. Latest news says so...
this isn't complicated.. Jeju is a nice place and lots of people want to go there.. there are lots of people in Seoul..
The do flight as we do buses to get us from one city to another here 😂
When it comes here in the Philippines, it's the MNL-CEB flight.
2:40 Yes, U.S. has a lot of places for a vacation like the Caribbean and Cancun.
Video begins at 2:51
2:10 well obviously because there's a train to busan...
Move Seoul to Jeju, problem solved.
you broke that down bro
Cuz nobody wants to live permanently in Je-ju except the local Jejulites in S. KOREA ; They need to commute from Jeju to Seoul 😅
There are so many better naturally beautiful vacation spots in South Korea, you wrote it as if Jeju is the only place. It is just that Jeju is an island so you cant ride a train or car there. Simple.
Why are comparing a domestic route with an international NYC-London route? 😂 maybe comparing it to NYC-LA would make more sense
I took that route 6 years ago.
@5:37, of course there are ferrys from Seoul to Jeju.. made up facts
Philippines we have the busiest domestic route
Manila-Cebu-Manila
half of those flights are taken by kdrama production crews😂
😂😂
until 2000s Jeju was go to place of honey moon for newly married couples.
Pronouncing Hawaii "Hah Veh Ee" is like speaking in English but saying "Paree" (Paris), "Mooonchen" (Munich) or "Masskva" (Moscow). "Oh but it's pronouncing it the CORRECT way" - uh no, in English, it's Hawaii. The Turks recently told the world to stop calling them Turkey and instead Turkiye (Turr-key-yeah). Funny, as they continue to call England > (WRONG and OffenSiVe!!!) Different languages have different ways of pronouncing and naming places, and that is okay. Hawaii is pretty similar to Hahvahee, it doesn't achieve anything other than false virtue.
I think it depends imo. As a native Japanese I will pronounce Japanese cities and words in native pronunciation even if I'm speaking in english. Either way, I think if someone get's genuinely offended by someone using their native pronunciations I think there's something wrong with them. It's such a weird thing to get pressed about.
The worst is people who come back from their Spanish vacation saying "Barthelona" for the first time in their lives. Very condethending.
Because Jeju is the only domestic tourist destination in the country.
Simple.
Only knew about jeju thanks to l dramas 😂
what about Sydney to Melbourne?
비행기와 기차를 타고 백두산과 개마고원을 여행할 날이 있을까? 그렇게 생각하면 생각보다 한국의 영토는 작은편이 아니라고 생각한다
제주시에서 서귀포 : 한시간 반
제주시에서 서울시 : 한시간 반
koreans love Jeju-do
But... Wouldn't that make jeju busy seasonally? Surely tourism doesn't bring air traffic at a steady year round rate
Unless the destination can attract an equal no. of tourists from countries with different school holiday periods? E.g. Singapore's longest school holidays are in June & Dec, about 1 & 0.5 month earlier than many other countries
I am korean!
You missed mackerel sashimi. For shame.
How many times can I say Hawaii challenge impossible
Jeju is exp
Ha-Vaa-ii 🤔
Why are you saying Hawaii like that
Singapore - KL is one of the busiest but doesn't even make your list, something isn't right!
Nope, if you check the statistics, even when considering international and domestic routes together, KUL-SIN is not within top 10 for passenger count.
@cpux64 if you just go on international it's top, not if you include domestic too.
@@swankeyvader That's the point, it's only on the top of you're only considering international routes
Why tf does he say havai
When you go to Jeju airport, you can feel it is damn so crowded.
The capacity is so full that they are building a 2nd airport on the southern coast (2035 open).
Learn english.
Honestly, if Tokyo - Osaka or Beijing - Shanghai would easily beat this if there are no high speed rail in Japan or China.
0:20 670 flights per week
Hey, it still works :/
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Stop pronouncing Hawaii like that
I might have to disagree with this. I found busier routes in Australia and us than this.
Why are you saying Hawaii like that you melt
I had to stop watching when he said Hawaii like that.