Note - I did indeed test between no drivers, and there was two or three drivers that I had on hand that I went through. Most times the drivers didn't change much performance wise, but the turnip drivers would crash the device constantly - no drivers was the most stable. (even my livestream showed the hard crashes) But my video definitely isn't meant to be the gospel or definitive experience - just mine. I'm confident there's people out there that will try a million different combinations of drivers + firmware + emulator versions + more to make each game playable or better, but I'm not that person. Just wanted to get this video out to showcase Switch since everyone seems to be so scared nowadays.
Thanks for the great coverage of the Retroid 5, Joey! You mentioned you used the Turnip drivers, I found on both my Odin Pro (SD845) and Pimax Portal (SD865+) that Turnip drivers rarely helped and usually made things worse in Yuzu. Instead you can try using the Pojav/Qualcomm v0615vxx driver's in Yuzu/Sudachi for best results if you haven't already, it makes a massive difference.
Currently I have an Odin 2 Pro, and even with that i had to make several tweaks to get things running right. Having the right emulator and drivers helps. For instance sudachi didnt work well for me, but yuzu did. The regular qualcomm drivers helped but then i also use turnip driver 24.1.0 Test R18 version and assigned the drivers on a per game settings. For the RP5, you will definitely need to do a lot of tweaks to get things running right.
I own the odin 2 (base) and yeah switch emulation is a pain in the @ss with all those tweaking ..the best way to play switch games is to the console itself💯
@@simmzfour uh... no lol. Because with THIS title and THOSE opening titles in the video that is enough for a copyright strike. 3 strikes on his channel and RUclips removes it. But ok we should stop telling people not to do that because it annoys you.
@@alexanderjohnson8250 Joey already spoke on this in one of his news videos. He said he is going to do what he is going to do and quit if they take the channel down.
He's not, really. Previous strikes were found to be coming from fanboys pretending to be nintendo, not nintendo themselves. Nintendo has said the address that their strikes would come from, and the ones that have been happening have not been from said address.
Thanks for the honest information on switch with the RP5. I feel like people are skirting around the very limited switch performance and it's misleading potential buyers.
It's definitely the usual Switch shenanigans. I have no doubt some of the not able to load games, can be, by finding some weird combination of other drivers + firmware + emulator. But honestly, who has the time.
That screen is stunning. 👍 But yes even with an Odin 2 Switch games are glitchy.. I finally got myself a Switch OLED and moded it + overclock. Now at least all the games run fine 😅
Thanks for the video!. This device will be the sweet spot for emulation (not for Switch). What I really would love to see is how 3DS emulation is on the RP5.
Honestly, just the fact that Switch emulation works this well in general is impressive. It feels like it's a software patch or two away from fixing a lot of those games.
I saw a different video that had a lot unplayable for you working fine including Arcues and Odyssey so I'm sure a lot more of these can be playable with extra tinkering
I fully understand those who don't want to risk it, but this is great to see! i already have and love my switch, but since I'm getting an RP5 for other games it's fun to know what will work.
Definitely agree with using a switch for switch. Did you try using older turnip drivers? I saw another video with someone using older ones and they seemed to have better luck with some games.
I feel like this would be a downgrade coming from an Odin 2. It's why I preordered the Odin Portal. That said for the price and what you're getting Retroid knocked it out of the park.
Of course it's a downgrade, the Odin is just shy of Steamdeck money, this is clearly aimed at luring in budget minded consumers who want something that's not as much of a risk to take outside, I have to say it's working. If we could just reduce some of the tinkering that you have to do it'd be close to perfect.* (*for the price)
I have the Odin 2 Pro(still very unstable, just android in general). I just use the ROG Ally X because of Ryujinx stability on Windows. Ryujinx was so close to releasing on Android. I was waiting patiently for the release but when I heard of it being shut down. :( :( :(
I bought the GC color to play Gamecube on. Thing looks like a dream console for me on the nostalgia front. A handheld Gamecube that looks this good is crazy
Isn't the problems you show at Kirby and smash that the shader cache gets build? Since when you do up b the ability doesn't lag out same when you reuse abilities with Kirby.
I'm pretty sure. I actually finished kirby on my tablet with the same chipset. It kept randomly crashing like every hour, and at some places it ran kinda slow, but what he's showing is shader cache, the more you play the better it runs. Again, I finished the game
SUDACHI crasches all the time on my Odin 2. I have try different builds, drivers, firmwares even the newest mainline app version too. I have switched back to YUZU 278 works much stable.
It's best to stream from pc to a handheld device . Use a gamesir controller or similar. And use software parsec, moonlight. It's the best way. Decent WiFi connection needed preferably WiFi 6
the RP 5 has aprox. double the power of the switch, so theoretically since we do just translation and not full emulation it could with enough optimisations and improvements run all switch games without problems possibly even in docked mode (but that is gonna happen in 5 to 10 years )
I mean bare in mind the review units are the ones Retroid said might have issues because it's not the up-to-date firmware yet. That's why they delayed the public release by 1-2 weeks
@@cappnplanetcappnplanet3237 yeah that could also affect the outcome. Although it is expected the review units of the RP5 have unfinished software. So expect better performance for the actual retail ones
Odin 2 mini is better in every aspect, the screen is slightly smaller and 720p but that is native switch resolution so it looks better, I am playing tears of the kingdom at a locked 30fps. Skyrim winlator gets me 40fps at my settings.
Other videos I saw used v9 of turnip this one Mesa Turnip driver v24.3.0 - Revision 9v2 he had the same issue with ledgends arceus but when he used these drivers was fine 28-30fps
@ Ah okay. I heard you say something about 3d world running fine on the mini but I dont see a video about switch emu on mini on your channel, can you link the vid?
Man, how I wish this had a pro version with SD8 G2. None of the Odin 2 variants are good fit for me, so I got the Pocket S but that not perfect either. This would be perfect for me with a more powerful chip.
i know you said origami king was kinda unplayable because of the stuttering in battles but i did not expect it to run at 30fps, even in battles 😭 does it run this decently outside of battles too? i cant even get past the kart scene in both yuzu and sudachi on my rp4 pro, in skyline the game doesnt even load
Is there any common theme between the games that work and those that dont? For instance do you find games built in the unity engine work and games built inhouse engine's dont work?
@@JoeysRetroHandhelds so when you read through your comments, you can only shake your head, my friend! your stamina is strong, respect for that hehe :D
Seems like with Nintendo ruining further development on switch emulation the best we have left for decent performance is streaming from a pc if you have the wifi speed for that
A man of culture and no fear what Nintendo says. Nintendo this actually works in ur favor Buy a switch for the Best performance in Switch games. And persons who never knew about these other games will buy the switch games. Nintendo needs to hire me lol.
Exact same chipset with more RAM so there's no way in the universe that the RP Mini is better suited for Switch games. I'm going to suggest something you might not want to hear - You might need to track down an Android 10 rom to thoroughly investigate what is happening.
This is the HERO we need, a man who will not be cowered into submission by the tyrannical nintendo. A modern day George washington in the retro handheld scene
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Note - I did indeed test between no drivers, and there was two or three drivers that I had on hand that I went through.
Most times the drivers didn't change much performance wise, but the turnip drivers would crash the device constantly - no drivers was the most stable. (even my livestream showed the hard crashes)
But my video definitely isn't meant to be the gospel or definitive experience - just mine. I'm confident there's people out there that will try a million different combinations of drivers + firmware + emulator versions + more to make each game playable or better, but I'm not that person.
Just wanted to get this video out to showcase Switch since everyone seems to be so scared nowadays.
change the thumbnail and the title nintendo took down some nintendo emulation videos
But, did you cook the turnips first?
That's the only way they work for me.
I did the get million turnips cheat, I'm rolling in turnips!
Thanks for the great coverage of the Retroid 5, Joey!
You mentioned you used the Turnip drivers, I found on both my Odin Pro (SD845) and Pimax Portal (SD865+) that Turnip drivers rarely helped and usually made things worse in Yuzu. Instead you can try using the Pojav/Qualcomm v0615vxx driver's in Yuzu/Sudachi for best results if you haven't already, it makes a massive difference.
@@JoeysRetroHandhelds I should read things before writing comments 😆
i love Joey, he doesnt give a single f**k about Nintendo's scare tactics
But I don't want to see him down because of it.
@@antonio_carvalho he will not
Ooh bad boi 😆
Russ got a strike not for showing Nintendo games emulated, he got the strikes because Nintendo was angry about his video on the MigSwitch v2.0
@@antonio_carvalho, hoping @Nintendo see this asap ✅
BIG BALLS JOEY AT IT AGAIN 😮.
You go man!!
Me watching this video before Joey ends up in Lake Ontario. 😬
Currently I have an Odin 2 Pro, and even with that i had to make several tweaks to get things running right. Having the right emulator and drivers helps. For instance sudachi didnt work well for me, but yuzu did. The regular qualcomm drivers helped but then i also use turnip driver 24.1.0 Test R18 version and assigned the drivers on a per game settings. For the RP5, you will definitely need to do a lot of tweaks to get things running right.
I own the odin 2 (base) and yeah switch emulation is a pain in the @ss with all those tweaking ..the best way to play switch games is to the console itself💯
I had a great experience with Sudachi and the turnip drivers. Interesting that you found Yuzu more performant.
Be carefull with those titles, nintendo is watching you 👀👀
Meh. He obviously doesn't care
Stop with the Nintendo comments.
@@simmzfour uh... no lol. Because with THIS title and THOSE opening titles in the video that is enough for a copyright strike. 3 strikes on his channel and RUclips removes it. But ok we should stop telling people not to do that because it annoys you.
Nintendo can suck a big PHAT ONE
@@alexanderjohnson8250 Joey already spoke on this in one of his news videos. He said he is going to do what he is going to do and quit if they take the channel down.
Yeah, you're playing with fire with this one.
He's not, really. Previous strikes were found to be coming from fanboys pretending to be nintendo, not nintendo themselves. Nintendo has said the address that their strikes would come from, and the ones that have been happening have not been from said address.
Thanks for the honest information on switch with the RP5. I feel like people are skirting around the very limited switch performance and it's misleading potential buyers.
It's definitely the usual Switch shenanigans. I have no doubt some of the not able to load games, can be, by finding some weird combination of other drivers + firmware + emulator.
But honestly, who has the time.
Who’s been skirting around it?
They're scared of Nintendo. They've been on an all out war on emulation that's only gotten worse this year.
That screen is stunning. 👍 But yes even with an Odin 2 Switch games are glitchy..
I finally got myself a Switch OLED and moded it + overclock. Now at least all the games run fine 😅
This is the way!
Sir, how can we even oc a switch,?
Thanks for the video!. This device will be the sweet spot for emulation (not for Switch). What I really would love to see is how 3DS emulation is on the RP5.
This was awesome. Thanks for all you do always Joey!
Honestly, just the fact that Switch emulation works this well in general is impressive. It feels like it's a software patch or two away from fixing a lot of those games.
Thats not going to happen anytime soon
@@Xaphino I know... > w < Thanks Nintendo lol.
I saw a different video that had a lot unplayable for you working fine including Arcues and Odyssey so I'm sure a lot more of these can be playable with extra tinkering
Who is the RUclipsr?
@devamaria2010 nittrx showed odyssey forget who showed arceus
I fully understand those who don't want to risk it, but this is great to see! i already have and love my switch, but since I'm getting an RP5 for other games it's fun to know what will work.
Another great, informative video. Thanks Joey
Good to know the limits of the RP5, thanks Joey! 🍻🤘🏼
You're a brave one, Joey! Thank you for this video!!!
Definitely agree with using a switch for switch. Did you try using older turnip drivers? I saw another video with someone using older ones and they seemed to have better luck with some games.
I feel like this would be a downgrade coming from an Odin 2. It's why I preordered the Odin Portal. That said for the price and what you're getting Retroid knocked it out of the park.
Of course it's a downgrade, the Odin is just shy of Steamdeck money, this is clearly aimed at luring in budget minded consumers who want something that's not as much of a risk to take outside, I have to say it's working. If we could just reduce some of the tinkering that you have to do it'd be close to perfect.* (*for the price)
I love this videos, can see gameplay fast to see if you want buy a game or see new recommends.
nintendo: um.....OK! coming soon.
I would have loved to see you try both Octopath Travelers, Sea of Stars, Dead cells ...
Might be better off putting your findings as notes in a community post so you don't get a channel strike from the nintendo ninjas
or just contributing the the RP5 community capabilities spreadsheet
Such a shame that Nintendo killed Yuzu and Ryujinx because clearly the chips can handle it, it just needs more development
In time some forks will develop behind the scenes that will fix this issue
I suspect that is precisely why Nintendo was so motivated to kill the emulators.
@@jwlarocque how dare other handheld companies run our latest generation console's games better than we can😠
Actually I think Yuzu works better than actual Sudachi, also Uzuy Edge and Nyushu
This is why I'm buying the Ayn Odin Portal. 😏
That and better left stick placement. Its 100% going to be the better streaming device too. And moonlight allows 120fps streaming i think
@@KaboWaboo Beautiful! 😍
I think it’s only his hand held that’s having problems
I have the Odin 2 Pro(still very unstable, just android in general). I just use the ROG Ally X because of Ryujinx stability on Windows. Ryujinx was so close to releasing on Android. I was waiting patiently for the release but when I heard of it being shut down. :( :( :(
@@KaboWaboo Steam Link also supports 120fps 1080
I bought the GC color to play Gamecube on. Thing looks like a dream console for me on the nostalgia front. A handheld Gamecube that looks this good is crazy
Performance can vary a lot depends on the emulator, version and turnip drivers
Beautiful showcase. Thanks for sharing the capabilities of this device.
Nintendo in tears right now knowing the Switch 2 is just a 2019 smartphone too. Day 1
Hurry watch before it gets taken down
Thank you for your sacrifice
Isn't the problems you show at Kirby and smash that the shader cache gets build?
Since when you do up b the ability doesn't lag out same when you reuse abilities with Kirby.
I'm pretty sure. I actually finished kirby on my tablet with the same chipset. It kept randomly crashing like every hour, and at some places it ran kinda slow, but what he's showing is shader cache, the more you play the better it runs. Again, I finished the game
SUDACHI crasches all the time on my Odin 2. I have try different builds, drivers, firmwares even the newest mainline app version too. I have switched back to YUZU 278 works much stable.
It's best to stream from pc to a handheld device . Use a gamesir controller or similar. And use software parsec, moonlight. It's the best way. Decent WiFi connection needed preferably WiFi 6
Thanks Joey!
Thanks for the video we all wanted to see Joey. Was all the testing at 1x resolution? Didn't drop it to see if it would crash less?
1x yep.
You're playing with fire bro
Man, you are realy brave 😂
It would be nice to see more non-nintendo 1st party games like P5R, Monster hunter, and some indie games.
Hey Joey, Stay Gold Ponyboy
I'm curious, what emulator are you using in this video? Is it the old yuzu or oneo of it's various derivatives
Oh, try some Cemu next. The app works pretty good, wonder what it would be like on rp5. Nice educational video you made here!
Tendo:👁️👁️
Joey:🗿
We need you to continue so please avoid the Nintendo police by avoiding mentioning that nameless console!
the RP 5 has aprox. double the power of the switch, so theoretically since we do just translation and not full emulation it could with enough optimisations and improvements run all switch games without problems possibly even in docked mode (but that is gonna happen in 5 to 10 years )
Esse console so tem 8gb de ram e nao vai rodar bem jogos mas pesados e depende de otimização dos jogos de switch pra rodar bem
Bayonetta was running just fine on RetroTechDad RP Mini video, looks like your unit is cursed or something
I mean bare in mind the review units are the ones Retroid said might have issues because it's not the up-to-date firmware yet. That's why they delayed the public release by 1-2 weeks
Tech dad was using uzuy on Android 10, joey likely using a different setup
@@cappnplanetcappnplanet3237 yeah that could also affect the outcome. Although it is expected the review units of the RP5 have unfinished software. So expect better performance for the actual retail ones
Boy you really got me with that 13 sentinels screen
it would be really cool if you did a wii u testing
Real brave w/ those Nintendo titles. Godspeed sir.
Indie Switch Emulation might be a good reason to buy this Handheld. 😏
Please support indie devs.
@@dgevertYeah, I never pirate indie games without buying the game on the native console first.
Odin 2 mini is better in every aspect, the screen is slightly smaller and 720p but that is native switch resolution so it looks better, I am playing tears of the kingdom at a locked 30fps. Skyrim winlator gets me 40fps at my settings.
I saw a different vid show legends arceus running super smooth so that one is possible
Maybe with sudachi some Games Like super Mario Wonder or super Mario 3d world would Work. I saw These Games working in other Videos with the rp5
Very nice
Other videos I saw used v9 of turnip this one
Mesa Turnip driver v24.3.0 - Revision 9v2 he had the same issue with ledgends arceus but when he used these drivers was fine 28-30fps
Yeah, it seems to run better with older drivers.
That was one of three drivers I tested and used.
@@JoeysRetroHandheldsYh the other video ledgends arceus ran perfectly fine with older driver definitely seems like an issue with your rp5
The other video does not show Arceus running perfectly.
@@hakman239 Might not be the hardware but some software differences
Well, it works fine for me. I mean, I am only interested in indie games (that I usually own on switch or steam) and I think it will do the job enough.
Should be the same on the mini as same chipset right?
Same chipset, different Android versions, different emulator versions.
@ Ah okay. I heard you say something about 3d world running fine on the mini but I dont see a video about switch emu on mini on your channel, can you link the vid?
It was Mario Wonder, and it was in my Mini review.
@ Ah okay, thank you! 😁
That’s it. Joey’s uncle must work for Nintendo.
You are the bravest person on youtube!
It would be great to add playable rating (1-5) for easy navigation and quick understanding.
Man, how I wish this had a pro version with SD8 G2. None of the Odin 2 variants are good fit for me, so I got the Pocket S but that not perfect either. This would be perfect for me with a more powerful chip.
What emulator do you use
is this better then the anbernic 406v??
Way better
I tried switch emulation on my odin 2 pro and I experienced a lot of crashing. Probably user error but yeah
Nah, it's not great. I do these videos for information, but Lord help me I'd never emulate Switch.
Varies what you trying to do,
i suggest you to be careful...
You've got Ballz Joey
Can we expect the exact same crashes on the AYN Portal, but more frames only on the games that run?
Probably it's the emulator, on EGG NS mario galaxy is more than playable on a snap 870, and mario wonder works great
i know you said origami king was kinda unplayable because of the stuttering in battles but i did not expect it to run at 30fps, even in battles 😭 does it run this decently outside of battles too? i cant even get past the kart scene in both yuzu and sudachi on my rp4 pro, in skyline the game doesnt even load
Nice video
What Android version do you have Joey??
13
Is there any common theme between the games that work and those that dont?
For instance do you find games built in the unity engine work and games built inhouse engine's dont work?
Id say it's a good number of switch games you can play. Not a switch console but it's enough with all the other stuff it can run.
is it the stick in an uncomfortable position ?
Looks fine to me handheld is kind of small.
Are you going to drop a video on ps1 + ps2 performance? thanks!
How was the heat and battery drain?
Change the title before you get a strike like rus did
Russ got a strike not for showing Nintendo games emulated, he got the strikes because Nintendo was angry about his video on the MigSwitch v2.0
Hell, yeah 🤠
Some say dock mode can't pair with PS5 controller. Confirmed?
Challenge Accepted
Watch out for the ninjas bro. 😅
No turnip drivers?
Did you listen to the video?
@@JoeysRetroHandhelds so when you read through your comments, you can only shake your head, my friend!
your stamina is strong, respect for that hehe :D
Seems like with Nintendo ruining further development on switch emulation the best we have left for decent performance is streaming from a pc if you have the wifi speed for that
The balls on this guy!!!
P.s i think bayonetta crashed becuase of texture and drivers.
hm .... look like my rg406 still ok with Sudachi
A man of culture and no fear what Nintendo says. Nintendo this actually works in ur favor Buy a switch for the Best performance in Switch games. And persons who never knew about these other games will buy the switch games. Nintendo needs to hire me lol.
Exact same chipset with more RAM so there's no way in the universe that the RP Mini is better suited for Switch games.
I'm going to suggest something you might not want to hear - You might need to track down an Android 10 rom to thoroughly investigate what is happening.
This is the HERO we need, a man who will not be cowered into submission by the tyrannical nintendo. A modern day George washington in the retro handheld scene
Oh oh the Big N will send their Sturmbannführer after you!
You are brave mate 😂 unfortunately I am unsure this will stay up 😭
Nah I refused to believe this Wonder & Super Mario 3D World runs so good on the RP4 Pro.This has to be because Android 13 is not optimized
Awesome..Thank you...can you play pc game using winlator emulator..
Arceus and scarlet will work with turnip
Brave man
i think ill stick with my razer edge
I rate you fam you're a brave man 🤣
Even the odin 2 needs tweaking in every switch game .... I own one...and for me the best thing to play switch games is buy a switch and do some magic😂
Does persona 5 Royal run good ?
podrias pasar los archivos de los juegos para descargar en la RP5 cuando la reciba?
Too bad they didn't use the S650 plus
i'll just stick with my ROG Ally and Steam Deck.