If you look closely at the older players, you can see how they were in pain. Scottie's legs and back were shot. Kerr didn't have the legs. Hakeem's legs weren't all there nor was Robinsons. Sean Elliott had bad knees. Those guys were old and banged up by 1999. Antoine Carr had to turn into a jump shooter. No more banging bodies under the rim. Those guys left the league around that time. Old and hurt.
Good point. So in a way, the 1998 lockout that ate almost half the season (and almost cancelled the entire season) was a blessing in disguise. This gives players more time to recuperate and take care of themselves (if they did).
Barkley with his Jordan 14’s doing his usual dirty work in the paint and had the jumper falling from outside, he and Tim only matched up a few times before Barkley would retire but they didn’t disappoint. Two hall of fame frontcourts and Mario Elie (formerly a Rocket) with the kiss of death. These veteran heavy games are nostalgic! Nothing better than nba on nbc.
Man 99 had some series one shot or last shot defining moments that made that year exciting. Season and Playoffs. You have this. You have Elliot’s Memorial Day Miracle shot vs Blazers. Johnson’s game winning shot vs Knicks to win it all (not last second shot but it was the last bucket made). You even had the Blazers Stoudemire’s shot taken at Johnson that he personally could never win a chip 😂
If Charles and Tim had been around the same age they would have had an amazing rivalry. Totally different in terms of personality and physicality but both amazing PFs in an era where PF was probably the most dynamic position.
Duncan is not PF he played 14 years as an center. If u know positions on the court u see that Admiral was stretch 4 , that provides Duncan to have space on his fav center post position he is incredible 1 on 1 due to his size but he is useless in fast trap, double team or any other system. 80% of his career he was center on the court not PF.
@@perditadurango9699 AND LIKE I SAID SNIPERS CARRIED HIM WHOLE CAREER HE CANT DEAL WITH DOUBLE TEAM OR CARRY A TEAM HE IS NOT GARNETT TO HAVE THAT SKILLS. HE NEEDS SPREAD FLOOR GUYS LIKE BONES BARRY, KERR, BOWEN, MANU, SMITTY AND OTHERS FROM 3
@@PIP...33 He had too many snipers : Horry, Kerr, Steve Smith, prior that JJ and Mario likewies Sean and Vinnie. Then as you mention Bones Barry Manu Finley and corner Bowen. Spurs were loaded just to open up floor so he can operate 1on 1. If he played in Sota or Vancouver he would be just good PF/C like Gasol 16 ppg and 11 rpg.
I should have clarified - if Tim had been around 10-15 years before he was, then the matchup would have been amazing. You make a fair point.@@perditadurango9699
When. you see the size difference between Barkley and Duncan, then you realize Chuck had better stats in every category except shot blocking for his career, shows what a beast he was at his height. Duncan did get those championships tho.
@@Abdul95Rachman Barkley was being nice and giving nods because Duncan got a a lot of rings (having Robinson when he got there, then later having the perfect team chemistry around him and a great coach), but Tim could not handle old Barkley in their few match ups, just imagine him trying to guard prime Barkley without double teams? lol Duncan was a good player, but the only thing he did better than Barkley was shot blocking, Barkley was a better scorer, had a high FG% (despite usually not being on good teams in his prime), better rebounder, better passer, had more steals, and could lead the break. Kevin Garnet and Larry Johnson said Barkley was the most difficult player to guard they ever faced and KG faced Malone, Barkley and Duncan.
@@powerboatguy2308 Dude, have you ever heard of "defense won championships" ? Duncan was by far better defender, he wasn't just lucky to got 5 rings - Robinson wasn't the same after injury, maybe still good 2nd option until 2000, after that he was done. - Parker & Ginobilli weren't All Stars until at least 2005. - Even in that transition period, Duncan still carried bad team to compete for championships every season. - It's not Barkley's fault he played in Jordan era, but Duncan played in PF era & also played against Prime Shaq in the west. He was always be in tough matchup.
You could see that Pippen didn’t really want to be there. The offence in Houston didn’t flow like in Chicago. His job was being a spot up shooter and basically passing the ball down low to hakeem. Waste of his talent.
@@DavidOkutinyang-td4jthe never said he was better than olajuwon but as far as skill set his talents didn't match the way he was accustomed in Chicago under the triangle offense . In Chicago it's constant motion constant ball movement unless Jordan hogged the ball but he was use to a style that complimented his skill set. Olajuwon needed the ball more in the post so there's not much movement like in todays game where there is pick and pop pick and roll dish and kick game
but he's a role player, you speak like he's coming in as the main man in Houston NO! Hakeem was the main man, Barkley is the 2nd option. It's like Brooke Lopez on the Bucks you have to co exist behind Giannis and Lillard, that's what Pippen was in Houston.
The 2000s Western Conference teams were always exciting to me. That’s when you HAD to win 50 games just to have the chance to make 8th seed. Spurs Rockets Lakers Mavs Suns Wolves man it was always packed. Being a life long Spurs fan it was always exciting. Except for having to listen to ESPN when they hosted games during the playoffs and wrote off the Spurs each and every time.
The tale of two (2) rattles: - Playing in the shadows of the GOAT, Scottie Pippen had opportunities to get out from that huge hurdle in Chicago (failed) then in Houston. He missed, which turned out the beginning of the Rockets' downward spiral (finished 5th seed). Instead taking responsibility, he constantly complaining of the team's stagnant offense and Charles being "fat". - Though not the main guy, Mario Elie brought nastiness and toughness to Spurs which often labeled (or mislabeled) as "soft". Elie is more driven because it is against his former team. It was personal; guess he was not re-signed so to create cap room for Pippen's lucrative deal. Although not the same as Elie's "kiss of death" in 1995 (poor Phoenix), the winning shot was somewhat a breakthrough game for the Spurs, a first glimpse of the team's usual routine of finishing the season strong in subsequent years. The intention is to aim for the second-best record. But with Utah somehow losing critical games in the final weeks, San Antonio found themselves winning final three (3) crucial games en route to the league's best record (identical with the Jazz at 37-13; Spurs had the tie-braker). One of those wins was against the Jazz (hope you can share it too, MDBball). ^^
I still have a lot of games on VHS. I remember I would record all the Sundays matinee games on NBC. Is there any way to transfer those to a USB or something?
@@PIP...33 Usually Tim Donaghy carry him. Especially when Amar'e Stoudemire humiliated him. But more Bruce Bowen is reason too why Duncan has rings. Smart ppl knows he aint great player dude never led nba in any stats and losing gold medal is just perfect example. Still very good center tho i dunno why ppl calls him PF
@@perditadurango9699 DO U REMEMBER THAT DERANGED GUY @tim howard FEW DAYS AGO WHO SAID MARIO ELIE CANT SHOOT HE DIDNT CARRY FEW GAMES HAKEEM 1994 WELL , PERFECT EXAMPLE THAT JORDAN FANS REALLY ARE DERANGED
What Pippen..ur better than MJ?😅😅 Ur just a clown in this game both Offense and defense and ur defenders are Sean and Johnson🤣😃... this is about Olajuwon and Barkley show..but spurs won d game😊😊
Houston had a terrible coach and the team was disorganized and the great Scottie Pippin is saying what have i got myself into Barkley isn't a winner because he doesn't know his role
I absolutely remember this game. One of the more important regular season games from those pre-dynasty years
Without this win, the Jazz would be the No.1 seed that year
If you look closely at the older players, you can see how they were in pain. Scottie's legs and back were shot. Kerr didn't have the legs. Hakeem's legs weren't all there nor was Robinsons. Sean Elliott had bad knees. Those guys were old and banged up by 1999. Antoine Carr had to turn into a jump shooter. No more banging bodies under the rim. Those guys left the league around that time. Old and hurt.
I think Scottie's lower back is bothering him from the previous season. Pippen's legs were fine in 99-00
And if so, I STILL would rather watch them than the games and players today...that's why I'm here....lol 🤷♂️👏☝️
Good point.
So in a way, the 1998 lockout that ate almost half the season (and almost cancelled the entire season) was a blessing in disguise.
This gives players more time to recuperate and take care of themselves (if they did).
Carr was basically a jump shooter both of them years vs Chicago in the Finals.
@@willharper7888 Exactly. At least for the effort.
Barkley with his Jordan 14’s doing his usual dirty work in the paint and had the jumper falling from outside, he and Tim only matched up a few times before Barkley would retire but they didn’t disappoint. Two hall of fame frontcourts and Mario Elie (formerly a Rocket) with the kiss of death. These veteran heavy games are nostalgic! Nothing better than nba on nbc.
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Man that music instantly takes me back to the 90's when I would watch basketball with my Dad, good times.
*2 great front courts for both teams.*
REALLY DERANGED XCEPT BARKLEY WAS 300 LBS 2 PLASTIC HIPS AND 100 YEARS OLD.
DERANGED DIDNT U SAID THAT MARIO ELIE IS NOT SNIPER WHO CARRY OLAJUWON IN PLAYOFFS ? NOW WE SEE THAT HE CARRY DUNCAN.
This was also on the same day Wayne Gretzky played his final game (who along with Bird and Magic defined 1980s sports)
Gretzky was 80s and 90s 😂
The ABA and NBA merger defined the 80s. Not Bird and Magic. In fact I would debate the NBA resembles the ABA more than it resembles itself.
@@JamesHardenoverKobeYou're a retard 😂
Man 99 had some series one shot or last shot defining moments that made that year exciting. Season and Playoffs. You have this. You have Elliot’s Memorial Day Miracle shot vs Blazers. Johnson’s game winning shot vs Knicks to win it all (not last second shot but it was the last bucket made). You even had the Blazers Stoudemire’s shot taken at Johnson that he personally could never win a chip 😂
good game...wish they woulda met in the playoffs that year. Chuck wearing the AJ XIV's. The Alamodome always had a great atmosphere.
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Lakers had other ideas and gentlemen swepted them in the 1999 playoffs.
Mario delivering his old team the Kiss of Death in this game lol
If Charles and Tim had been around the same age they would have had an amazing rivalry. Totally different in terms of personality and physicality but both amazing PFs in an era where PF was probably the most dynamic position.
NAAAH LUIS SCOLA IS BETTER THAN DUNCAN
Duncan is not PF he played 14 years as an center. If u know positions on the court u see that Admiral was stretch 4 , that provides Duncan to have space on his fav center post position he is incredible 1 on 1 due to his size but he is useless in fast trap, double team or any other system. 80% of his career he was center on the court not PF.
@@perditadurango9699 AND LIKE I SAID SNIPERS CARRIED HIM WHOLE CAREER HE CANT DEAL WITH DOUBLE TEAM OR CARRY A TEAM HE IS NOT GARNETT TO HAVE THAT SKILLS. HE NEEDS SPREAD FLOOR GUYS LIKE BONES BARRY, KERR, BOWEN, MANU, SMITTY AND OTHERS FROM 3
@@PIP...33 He had too many snipers : Horry, Kerr, Steve Smith, prior that JJ and Mario likewies Sean and Vinnie. Then as you mention Bones Barry Manu Finley and corner Bowen. Spurs were loaded just to open up floor so he can operate 1on 1. If he played in Sota or Vancouver he would be just good PF/C like Gasol 16 ppg and 11 rpg.
I should have clarified - if Tim had been around 10-15 years before he was, then the matchup would have been amazing. You make a fair point.@@perditadurango9699
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This is the NBA on NBC!
Mario Elie was an assassin on all his teams
When. you see the size difference between Barkley and Duncan, then you realize Chuck had better stats in every category except shot blocking for his career, shows what a beast he was at his height. Duncan did get those championships tho.
Duncan is lucky he never had to deal with the 1990 version of Charles Barkley. Peak Barkley would've made an absolute mess of him.
@@Abdul95Rachman Barkley was being nice and giving nods because Duncan got a a lot of rings (having Robinson when he got there, then later having the perfect team chemistry around him and a great coach), but Tim could not handle old Barkley in their few match ups, just imagine him trying to guard prime Barkley without double teams? lol Duncan was a good player, but the only thing he did better than Barkley was shot blocking, Barkley was a better scorer, had a high FG% (despite usually not being on good teams in his prime), better rebounder, better passer, had more steals, and could lead the break. Kevin Garnet and Larry Johnson said Barkley was the most difficult player to guard they ever faced and KG faced Malone, Barkley and Duncan.
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Dude, have you ever heard of "defense won championships" ? Duncan was by far better defender, he wasn't just lucky to got 5 rings
- Robinson wasn't the same after injury, maybe still good 2nd option until 2000, after that he was done.
- Parker & Ginobilli weren't All Stars until at least 2005.
- Even in that transition period, Duncan still carried bad team to compete for championships every season.
- It's not Barkley's fault he played in Jordan era, but Duncan played in PF era & also played against Prime Shaq in the west. He was always be in tough matchup.
I have it récord on tape, how Long has been know and days you can wath it on RUclips. Back then thoses were great games❤
Olajuwon was WORKING that Spurs frontline! He was so adept in the post...
*That gots to hurt for the Houston Rockets.*
In that game,Barkley wore my favorite AJs.The Candy Canes,for me are the most beautiful AJ ever made.👍👍
Tim Duncan being triple teamed by 3 HOFs 😯
An old Barkley had better stats that game than all of those hall of famers, even tho we broken down at that point.
10:08 Robinson is so fierce and Barkley goes like what the fXXK🤣
Perfect last shot.
0:04 “The Dirty Creek.” - Charles Barkley.
Would you eat 🐟🐠 out of there? 😂😅 Charles Barkley!
1999 nba lockout year(50 GMs in 90 days)
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You could see that Pippen didn’t really want to be there. The offence in Houston didn’t flow like in Chicago. His job was being a spot up shooter and basically passing the ball down low to hakeem. Waste of his talent.
You speak like he's better than Olajuwon or something 😂😂🤣
@@DavidOkutinyang-td4jthe never said he was better than olajuwon but as far as skill set his talents didn't match the way he was accustomed in Chicago under the triangle offense . In Chicago it's constant motion constant ball movement unless Jordan hogged the ball but he was use to a style that complimented his skill set. Olajuwon needed the ball more in the post so there's not much movement like in todays game where there is pick and pop pick and roll dish and kick game
Pip did look out of place there in Houston.
but he's a role player, you speak like he's coming in as the main man in Houston NO! Hakeem was the main man, Barkley is the 2nd option. It's like Brooke Lopez on the Bucks you have to co exist behind Giannis and Lillard, that's what Pippen was in Houston.
MDBBALL LOVE U FOR THIS GAME GAMEPLAY OMG❤❤❤❤ BARKLEY MY FAVORITE OF ALL TIME
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Games today are nowhere near as exciting as this game and other games from this era.
Nowhere near at all!
The 2000s Western Conference teams were always exciting to me. That’s when you HAD to win 50 games just to have the chance to make 8th seed. Spurs Rockets Lakers Mavs Suns Wolves man it was always packed. Being a life long Spurs fan it was always exciting. Except for having to listen to ESPN when they hosted games during the playoffs and wrote off the Spurs each and every time.
@@systematicallyshockedthat's why NBC was the premier network for the NBA!
Houston really blew this game.
PIPPEN Contribution was garbage 😂
20:13 Big block! Ola shows who is the boss
Doug Collins was always great in the colour commentating booth
Even then Barkely and Pippen playing together on this team was so random.
I saw your odyssey channel, it's nice. Do you have any other full games?
Hi Demarco yes I put full games there when I get the chance every now and then
I'm Spurs fan, but Hakeem was clearly the best player on the court that night. He was tall, athletic, fundamentally sound and smart, can't beat that
He was good but thank God he wasn't '95 Hakeem good and thank God the rockets screwed up big time by not keeping Mario Elie
Year 15 i think he was in , he was 36 and still balling . Now i know why a friend of mine has him as his favorite/ best player.
Ya got the Bulls Knicks - 1997 NBA on NBC game- the one in Madison Square Garden?
I have to check on that Mario
The tale of two (2) rattles:
- Playing in the shadows of the GOAT, Scottie Pippen had opportunities to get out from that huge hurdle in Chicago (failed) then in Houston. He missed, which turned out the beginning of the Rockets' downward spiral (finished 5th seed). Instead taking responsibility, he constantly complaining of the team's stagnant offense and Charles being "fat".
- Though not the main guy, Mario Elie brought nastiness and toughness to Spurs which often labeled (or mislabeled) as "soft". Elie is more driven because it is against his former team. It was personal; guess he was not re-signed so to create cap room for Pippen's lucrative deal.
Although not the same as Elie's "kiss of death" in 1995 (poor Phoenix), the winning shot was somewhat a breakthrough game for the Spurs, a first glimpse of the team's usual routine of finishing the season strong in subsequent years.
The intention is to aim for the second-best record. But with Utah somehow losing critical games in the final weeks, San Antonio found themselves winning final three (3) crucial games en route to the league's best record (identical with the Jazz at 37-13; Spurs had the tie-braker).
One of those wins was against the Jazz (hope you can share it too, MDBball). ^^
Whole games please!
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@@MDBBall U STILL DIDNT FOUND 3 J , TONI BRAXTON GAME ? I WANNA SEE SOME MONSTER MASH
I still have a lot of games on VHS. I remember I would record all the Sundays matinee games on NBC. Is there any way to transfer those to a USB or something?
I remember Carr in Utah
Hakeem many rejections on Duncan lol😮😅
Imagine if it was prime Hakeem(1994&1995) on Duncan. He would’ve put Duncan into jail time lockup.
Duncun still won
*This is when i knew PIPPEN was done...😂*
Not accurate, considering the blazers nearly went past L.A. in the west finals.... some say it was a rigged series favoring the Lakers....
@@davedropd1Pippen was riding the coattails of the most stacked roster of the Western Conference.
Barkley, Pippen, Drexler, Olajuwon and Rockets still didn't get the rings. 😮
Barkley is the one ringless one here bro
No Drexler
Drexler retired in 1998 before Pippen joined in 1999!
ADMIRAL LOCKED OLAJUWON DUNCAN CANT DEFEND EVEN VS 2 PLASTIC HIPS BARKLEY 340 LBS
He really played nice tho usually he bricks 1 from billion . Still ranked worst shooter in history but here he had many 3's
@@perditadurango9699 YES, BUT ADMIRAL AND 3 PTS SNIPERS CARRY DUNCAN
@@PIP...33 Usually Tim Donaghy carry him. Especially when Amar'e Stoudemire humiliated him. But more Bruce Bowen is reason too why Duncan has rings. Smart ppl knows he aint great player dude never led nba in any stats and losing gold medal is just perfect example. Still very good center tho i dunno why ppl calls him PF
@@perditadurango9699 DO U REMEMBER THAT DERANGED GUY @tim howard FEW DAYS AGO WHO SAID MARIO ELIE CANT SHOOT HE DIDNT CARRY FEW GAMES HAKEEM 1994 WELL , PERFECT EXAMPLE THAT JORDAN FANS REALLY ARE DERANGED
@@PIP...33 Yep he judge by 1 bad game from Elie. Rockets had 5 snipers it was incredible team and strategy till Barkley ruined Tomjanovich playbook
Bad coaching bad players to much Barkley and Hakeem and not enough Pippen Pippen had 6 rings everything should have went through him
What Pippen..ur better than MJ?😅😅 Ur just a clown in this game both Offense and defense and ur defenders are Sean and Johnson🤣😃... this is about Olajuwon and Barkley show..but spurs won d game😊😊
Tf ok loll
Houston had a terrible coach and the team was disorganized and the great Scottie Pippin is saying what have i got myself into Barkley isn't a winner because he doesn't know his role