I love how they tried to say Jimbo is doing blackface when that black colour is what burn to crisp, chess piece colour is and the only time human skin gain that colour is when the body is mummified.
@@guesswhat-chickenbutt Seems like the implication here is that the "controversy" was started by white SJW types that see racism and xyz-phobia in everything. Could be true, might not be...personally I don't have enough time on my hands to validate the claim or not, but it's not wholly farfetched
yeah. though i also do think she probably didn't have time to put on a whole new mug after the talent show so she wiped it off, put on an opaque paint and a blue lip and hoped for the best...
I am a middle aged black woman who has a degree in history. JIMBO WAS NOT WEARING BLACK FACE. He looked like a chess piece (a rook to be more specific) if you ask me. Stop tossing around that term so cavalierly people. I'm so exhausted by ignorant people.
This whole discussion feels like was started by someone who DOES NOT GENUINELY CARE about racial issues. They completely ignored the reason why blackface is actually hurtful to POC and just want to see it from their "woke person" POV.
Yup, running around screaming blackface and racism at everything regardless of context and intent is SO damaging and frankly insulting to the actual history of blackface/minstrel shows/racism. I’m so over it. These kids need to get off Twitter and get an education.
The thing that makes me mad is that production is setting the girls up for hate by enforcing All Stars rules. If this is the Olympics of Drag, then the judges should be the ones making the calls. I’m gutted that Lemon went home but I’m also gutted that Pangina is getting death threats for a call she shouldn’t have had to make.
The fandom is responsible for its own hate, if someone watches an elimination on this show and chooses to go onto the twitter of the Queen who won the lipsync, thats on them. People are accountable for their own actions, blaming production just excuses the actions of this rancid fanbase
@@TheShannonShow. because black is a colour and blackface is making a mockery of black people...? are that daft babes? how u so uneducated on ur own damn races history girl LMFAOOO
I actually fully get Juju's runway. She just wasn't sure what "I'm a Winner" is supposed to mean. Now if the theme had been "I'm in Third place" she would have totally destroyed everyone! Annihilated!
I am getting sick of everyone's "talent" being them lip-synching to their "Look at me (Pu**y's on Fire)" self recorded "rap/dance" tracks. They are usually all the same and are only occasionally memorable.
Same. The only one I remotely like are Kornbreads song and ironically jujus song (not really a dance song) an AS5 even though what she brought this time was meh. Maybe also Jantasy but that was such a short snippet that I don’t even remember it really.
Some tea on Janey's performance. She didn't have time to get the outfits fitted on her properly and they were all still in a stage where they needed altercations, and that's why it looked so ill-fitting on her. Also, the song was what it was because BBC told her it was too dirty, so it needs to be low volume to not be heard properly or something like that, and it resulted in her not being sure if she can lipsync the lyrics, which she meant to. Also, Juju had a different dress for the runway, but the zipper broke and she had to wear that as a replacement outfit. But still doesn't excuse her wearing an unlined dress on ALL-STARS!?!?!? This is all based on what Lemon/Jimbo said in Roscoe's.
I appreciated them talking about their friendship. They were totally fine and hadn’t seen each other because they live on other sides of the country. Production being messy again. They also said that queens had to create their songs because the BBC had no rights to other songs. Like Lemon said, “we didn’t have Enya”
I was so confused about Lemon’s placement and the criticism that she received regarding her outfit choice when Juju, Baga, Janet were on the same runway.. And people need to stop hating on these queens and hate on the production… Pangina was given a choice and she did what felt right to her… Lemon, Jimbo and Mo had the best outfits of the night
@@styles2535 The whole reason why I said Janey was because her outfit is literally the same thing what Blue wore in Season 1 for the one where she was an eye , just in a gown…. I know Juju is a fan favourite and tbh one of my favourite ru girls but that was a robbery in broad daylight
I agree. I don't think Lemon should have been in the bottom. Funny how Ru saved the American queens first. If it weren't for that stunning dress on the runway I'd have said Monique should have lip synced
@@mrinaldas2548 I really thought she was going to be in the bottom and was like well Juju is going home. And was sad because we all love her and want to see her do good but for some reason she just isn't the same compared to the others when it comes to fashions. Which you can have done for you so idk why she doesn't have it done. But I kinda feel like they didn't because she actually sang maybe and Janey did the dance with a weird song and the outfits to me all looked similar in ways or there was a little detail that messed something up. Which I still thought it was a cool performance. And Lemons idk why she was in the bottom tbh. I literally am having such a hard time focusing on this season so far. It just feels weird. Like they're using the set after hours or idk something feels off
Well I just remembered why I didn't actually like Lemons performance. She really was hitting those cheer choreography competition dance moves with no gusto. Just blank face and doing the moves. Her arms were not noodly but they were not stiff and there. It was like how you practice before you go onto the stage and you're waiting backstage.
for me janey had the worst performance but i was so much more dissatisfied with everything baga and jujubee did the entire episode that i would’ve put them in the bottom next to janey
ya I could not tell you why Baga was not in the bottom other than the same reason she was hyped on UK1 - Ru lives and breathes for Baga, Ru would probably sell her fracking farm for Baga if she asked
at the very least janey was entertaining to watch. baga's made me want to scratch my eyeballs out (nothing against her though) and Jujubee's was flat out buh-ring.
I agree. The bottom 2 queens should have been Jujubee and Janey. Lemon didn't deserve this outcome😟 this coming from someone who doesn't care much for Lemon and actually Loves Jujubee as a drag artist😐
IDK why Juju is just doing basic looks one after another. Manilla is from an older season and she wiped the floor with everyone else on AS 56789? Whichever one it was.
@@Commentator541 juju has always had mediocre looks and a great personality, personally I think her chance to win was AS5 (or at least she had the looks to back it up) but she couldn’t squeeze out more than 1 challenge win. And I do think that Shea did better in SG.
@Sebastián Baeza I mean perhaps (I wouldn't know since I dont participate in many drag race spaces) but I dont think that pointing out jujubees faults in this episode is toxic
@@Commentator541 Manila is not from an older season. Jujubee premiered in S2 and Manila was S3. Either way Manila has always had looks. Juju was never a look queen. I do think she should at least elevate her looks at this point.
I think Pangina judged the bottom based on standards they have on DR Thailand! Contestants are very critiqued by Art and Pangina when they do something the judges already saw from them (a trick, a wig, a move, etc.) and the number was very reminiscent of Aja's, I must admit. Plus, with her experience as a drag queen and a club owner, Pangina has probably seen quite a lot of numbers like Lemon's (no shade). Just my opinion 🤔 Hope Pan Pan wins, she's amazing, she's a sweetheart 💜
I love Jujubee, but gurl... I look more glamorous when I dress up to go to the supermarket. 😂 She really spent all her budget in the previous 8 races she competed in 😔
I'm praying that she's just low-balling us right now, but I doubt it 😭😭 I love her so much but g-d yeah I agree with you lmao edit: perhaps Juju is the "new" shangela?
I'm Black and I didn't even think of Jimbo's face being Black face till I watched this video. It gave me more creature or monster and not caricature of Black people. I bet you anything that the people making a fuss about this aren't even Black.
I don't think Jimbo threw the lip sync, I think she couldn't move well in her shoes, the platforms were massive and on top of being hard to dance in she isn't a strong dancer anyway so she played it safe to not fall over/hurt herself.
Let's be real, if Jimbo was good at lipsyncing on top of being an amazing comedian and look queen, the laws of the universe would be completely rearranged
What im hating atm in the fandom is the whole ‘its not original’ criticism. Its season 1,469 of drag race, obviously we’re gonna see some things we’ve seen before. We should be judging the queens on their execution of their performances, not based on other people’s. Thats just my piece, i get when something is done constantly without fail like the finale lip sync reveals, but something like Lemon’s performance in this challenge (which we’ve seen ONCE) shouldnt be judged on Aja’s performance. Juju singing for the millionth time is a different story.
Not to mention haven’t we seen every queen lip sync to their own song. What’s the benchmark for when it’s unoriginal. Also we’ve seen janeys performance before. Milk did a similar talent and I think it was Kita Mean who did it on down under
I think the being original comment is being seen as lemons performance issue but in reality she was just dead in the face and wasn’t embodying the sass of her own song
@@owenspence1396 its not just this season though. Its always been a criticism in the fandom and sometimes the judges use it and compare queens to past stars, its so annoying to see and diminishes the talents of the current queens
And nobody is pointing out that Lemon landed on a split, as opposed to Aja's dead drop. I can't perform either, but a split from that height looks much riskier to me!
That’s actually a great point because (no shade to Aja, I do think she had an incredible glow up performance on AS3) but when I was watching it for the first time (as a former studio competitive dancer) I thought to myself “oh she didn’t exactly land that right or if so I’m surprised that it was as big of an OH MY GOD reaction because she wasn’t actually doing a jump split from that height” and to be honest what Aja did IS much less impressive and “risky” in terms of the ease in doing it compared to say, Laganja’s superhuman leap jump split from the top of a ladder entrance to be the lip synch assassin that she just recently did on AS6 (I think lol) and that Lemon obviously did in this performance, both of which are way more impressive and less messy for sure than Aja’s.
on jimbo's instagram, she said that she didn't have enough time in between her talent show and runway to redo her makeup, so she painted her whole face black from her eyes/mouth in the talent show. there's an instagram post where she shows the makeup she was going to do if she had enough time, which was mainly white.
Speaking for my people, it's not black face. Black face is as stated, an intentional mocking of black people in a derogatory/racist way through face paint/gestures, etc. Jimbo is CLEARLY a chess piece and they are often black and white. I do agree though that the paint was a bit distracting from what I consider a near perfect runway look. I would have LIVED if there had been a gorgeous beat mug with that dress. It really is like a final runway look that you would want to see last episode. I hope though that she didn't pull out the best for first, because either you really have to have spent a lot of coin to keep that momentum going or everything else might just be meh because that is a high bar for episode one.
I actually thought that the look would have been better with a beautiful painted face as well. The garment was exquisite and I felt the paint detracted from it. I mean as a whole it was still stunning but I think if he was going to paint his face he could have tried something more artistic like how Gottmik paints.
As a Canadian, that first ep was extremely entertaining / stressful! I’m extremely sad to see Lemon go!!!! I feel like she definitely didn’t deserve to be in the bottom!!
..gotta say tho .. In the werk room I had a feeling that the Canadian girls weren't well received ..a bit of premonition .. But as long as Jimbo continues to make Ru laugh, we're all good !
in the roscoes viewing lemon says they made everyone do their talent twice and they chose the first take, which personally I would also be rushing through if I knew I had to do that all over again
i'm kinda biased because i'm dutch, so i'm really happy that janey is still in the competition but lemon should not have been in the bottom to begin with
I feel like non-speaking Drag Race spin-off are overlooked by the American audience and this is why I'm rooting for Pangina and Janey. They are the two who have the most exposure to earn from this show. Also, it seems Janey was casted to be set up for early elimination, So I'm glad Pangina (and completely understand why) chosed to save her.
I Will say the whole "no prize money, donating proceeds to charity" thing is just more of a part of british TV culture than it is in america. the BBC is a non-commercial channel so they couldn't afford huge prizes, and if they were to keep the proceeds from the song it likely wouldn't go down well over here. Also charities like children in need are very culturally important over here and they have long standing relationships with basically all of the major TV channels
I’m thinking they may have gotten paid upfront for participating.. I know most say yes that work with Rupaul close, I’d love to see any of them do the Vegas show in the future
Ru said a portion of the proceeds is going to charity, not all of it. We don't know what that portion is, so it could even be 10% each to the two charities then 40% each for Ru and the winner queen (I mean, it definitely won't be that - I'm sure Ru will probably have like 50% at least, then the charities, then a little trickle to the winner but who knows?)
I thought it was the BBC with no prize money. It is also a government funded network so having prize money is inappropriate. I guess even with sponsors giving the money people may still get it twisted that taxpayers are funding this show. It would be the same with Canada's Drag Race if it were on the CBC (Canadian BBC). There was a prize for the Canadian Show since it was on Crave, not the CBC.
If you think Jimbo was doing blackface, you need to sit down, breathe, and then watch what ACTUAL BLACKFACE looks like. Or ask your kindergarten teacher for some juice to calm you down. But seriously, isn't it about time that we got over this conflation of the term "Black" as applied to ethnicity and the color "black" as applied to a color wheel? Let's pick our battles, people. If you're focusing on whether an artist should have referenced a chess piece, you're NOT focusing on the fact that we still haven't passed the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act, that police unions are still protecting racist cops from consequences, that 40% of those incarcerated in the US are Black (compared to 13% of the population), that only 1% of Fortune 500 CEOs are Black, and that nearly 20% of the Black population in the US live in poverty, compared to 11% of the population as a whole (setting aside the horror of that 11% number for now). C'mon Bob, FOCUS!!!
It was a great episode for the first of this franchise. The judging of course was controversial, which Rupaul is happy about. I was gagged with the elimination, but bummed that the fandom goes rabid over the outcome. I want to see whose lipstick Jimbo had. Plus, curious if this elimination will top Manila's or Shangela's in ratings. Mama is very happy with her new international TV show. 😁
Ru isn't bummed, Ru is happy about the rabid fandom. He just gets paid enough to have someone else help him tune it out. Would be able to help out his Emmy winning employees lol. Like you understand that Ru is an executive producer and has more say than what any regular host has. And he constantly says he has the power as well so why doesn't he make Viacom/WOW. But look where we are now, LGBTQ people are attacking each other and people that say they are fans of some queens but attack others are very common. USA! USA! USA!
Jimbo actually revealed by the very end of the episode while Lemon was walking away, saying 'I wish I could dance better' implying that she had chosen Janey's lipstick.
I couldn’t agree more with you except for Monique, her performance was not enjoyable. I would’ve easily swapped out Lemon for her, Juju, or Cheryl. Jimbo is my front runner and hopefully can win it so there is some justice for Lemon. 💛
Category is: Red Carpet Eleganza And the winner is Bussy Queen. Every choice in this episode reeks of production choices, except for the lipsync. That lipsync was the Pangina challenge gauntlet. Kudos to Pangina for not only delivering a greaf lipsync, but doing so dealing with a queen getting in her way.
The black painted face gave the look even more impact, especially how the eyes and lip pop. I just wished it had a bit more dimension or black glitter because it looked a bit dull compared to the amazing outfit. Still by far my fav look of the evening!
Jimbo is gold 🤣 I was dying the whole episode every time in talent show the camera panned back to Jimbo weird ass look bobbing his head 😂 more more more love it
The only incentive for winning the lipsync is that you won’t create an enemy by having to reveal a lipstick with the name of the contestant who stayed (if the winning queen chose a different lipstick than you).
1. I think Baga should have been in the bottom. Aside from my personal annoyance to her overly milked catch phrase. She was literally singing off beat…to her own song. & her runway was THE WORST on the stage. 2. Blu definitely could not have replaced one of the top queens. Her performance was A+ but like you said that runway was not lol so no way. The only thing we agreed on this week was the fact that Lemon got robbed!! 😩💛
As a British person I feel at almost every point in the season Baga only got by cos they’re British, and it’s UK vs the world, so a producer would say it’s odd to get rid of the only Brit. Should’ve gone way sooner, and Lemon absolutely shouldn’t have been first gone.
I was feeling the same way when Michelle had the nerve to say Lemons look isn’t elevated esp when 1 minute later she praised Janey’s look (Janey looked AMAZING, but that look was arguably not as elevated as Lemon’s esp when u consider the self reference from her pageant runway from her og season)
My issue with Jujubee's dress was that it wasn't even lined! it was just fabric wrapped around in a halter neck. At least line it if we are going to see the underside.
I honestly understand completely why Pangina chose to eliminate Lemon. She was judging the way she would on drag race Thailand and actually basing it on both the performance and the runway and not just the performance. She also did listen to what the judges had to say, and what the judges had to saw was Lemon (somehow) did the worst all together. Personally, I do think production set up this shocking elimination. They knew Pangina would go off of what the judges said and they figured Jimbo would either throw the lip sync or send her sister home so she could be the only canadian queen. It just seemed very produced bc we all know that Lemon didn’t do the worst or look the worst, yet the judges decided to make it seem like she did.
I love your look Bussy! The red updo, jacket and lips with the eyeliner and necklace is utter perfection. If I was a rich this would be my “casual lounging around the house” look 🥺
Jimbo did amazing. It actually never crossed my mind as black-face. I thought it was like resurrected queen. I also wondered if Jimbo purposely lip synced poorly. I’m over the talent shows just being lip syncs, even if it is their own song.
Obviously when it comes to Jimbo's "black face" it was painted this way to give contrast to little white lips. Making a thing out of this is nothing else than time waste.
At a viewing party lemon and jimbo said that what originally happened was that jimbo said: "you dont have to worry about the elimination, theres no way im chosing you. you are my sister" and the producers told them there has to be some mistery there.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they crowned Jujubee this time only to have her again on all-winners season 2. Otherwise next is All Stars Galactic / Universal.
With Jimbo's challenge show, my jaw dropped, closed dropped again, I screamed, I cried, HONESTLY WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT DSJFBDSBFDSK I LOVED EVERY SECOND OF IT.
This year seems to be the year of crazy WTF performances... I for one would love to see a Jimbo/Willow Pill collab at some point! Is the world ready though?
They should totally tour together. Very different brands of weird and with different references, but you know you're gonna get thoughtful and wild shit from both.
Lol what do you mean "allowed"? No other UK network wanted Drag Race UK, and I assume BBC3 were smart enough to have a contract for a certain number of seasons.
I can’t with Lemon being in the bottom-and I love Pangina, so there’s no hate towards them-but Jujubee deserved to be bottom 2 and Janey was the clear chop of the night. Jujubee is one of my absolute favourite queens, but that whole night was just meh… that being said, there’s nothing worth fighting for on this series, so it can play out however but stiiiiillllll
I found this first episode to be really cringey and really hard to watch with the unnecessary shade, lack of international diversity and seeming low budget they are working with.
the unfairness of holland and thailand having to compete alone when clearly these are teams of 2 sans the host, they caught on quick though and seemed to form their own alliance
TBH I probably would've put Jujubee and Janey in the bottom too but I think Lemon was a fair choice. Her performance was really lacking. When you think to yourself "hmm I have seen this before" on a perfomance, it's not good. My winner was probably Jimbo but Pangina was great too.
@@stephenepacta8418 Yes, it was. When you've worked so long in printing, as I have, these errors are glaring. It's important to make sure that your written words are clear or else you risk being misunderstood at best, and appearing ignorant at worst.
jimbo’s runway look reminded me of something gottmik would wear i absolutely loved it i do wish the makeup had been more intricate like i wish it had more details or looked more polished
Don’t know where this “jimbo threw the lip sync” myth originated from … she’s just not a good lip syncer. i mean, did anybody watch her elimination episode on CDR? she might slay if it was a lip sync song that suits her drag persona better but she did bad and pangina won, period.
Jimbo's runway was sooo good! That chess piece demon look. I live! 👏🏽 It's a Diego Montoya creation. The same person who made Blair, Jujubee and Miz Cracker's AS5 finale eleganza runways.
I love all parts of your vid even the makeup ads, 😂 your male-to-female transformation is so gorgeous. The reviews of different candidates are in-depth as well, very different from the RuPaul drag show itself.
Finally after all these years people are starting to see that being in the top two on all stars doesn’t mean you automatically win the challenge… like where’s the balance In that, also I remember a conversation after as4 snatch game and Manila saying, “Trinity did so much better than me, BUT for the people on Wikipedia I still won this episode; because she won the lip sync.” Also it’s not like there was never a prize like the ru Peter badges, they got money after they won the lip sync indicating they won the episode and the prize.
Actually on AS2-AS4, being top 2 meant you won the challenge. That's why both top 2 queens receive a prize for winning the challenge. Yes the lipsync winner ultimately won the episode but the other top 2 queen was also a challenge winner. I don't think that will apply to this season tho
I understand that, but I also like the idea of both top 2 technically “winning” the episode, especially for really short seasons like this. With only like 6 episodes having more queens winning per episode makes it way more interesting.
I honestly think she just painted her face black because it was easier given probably the limited amount of time between talent show and runway. And since she had no drag makeup on in the talent show😂
My whole entire thing about this, is if you’re going to do a talent show, I feel the producers should ask the girls to do varying talents. It felt just kind of like a fancier drag show at the club at some points. Don’t get me wrong there were some absolutely beautiful performances, but then there are some performances that I could go to West Hollywood and see on a typical Saturday night
This reminds me of the Colton Haynes MCR 'i don't love you' MV controversy. The man was painted BLACK, the COLOR BLACK, the PIGMENT BLACK IE pigment that doesn't bounce light of any color in the visible spectrum; And was thrown to the pits for it when there was never an Indictation or attitude of pretending to be any other race...he was just painted black NOT as a black person Diming black ppl and equating black paint as a 'representation' of the afro race is extremely disgusting and backwards... There is a difference in painting your skin a color and then proceeding to pretend to be part of that race, use their culture to your gains, exagerate their features and or mock them...
@@gayfield420 SAME it's so iconic and the use of back and white as physical representations of duality and oposition of concepts and feelings are just * chef kisses * and the song...I just cry, everytime
If a war vet gets triggered from something that sounds like a gunshot, it doesnt matter to them or the people that care about them that its not actually a gunshot. The point being that white people putting on black (and I do mean black, not just brown) paint has a recent history tied to discrimination and trauma. If black people find that distasteful, even acknowledging that its not the same as minstrelsy in this case, its still distasteful. You become part of the problem when you go around saying "you have no right to feel this way cause its clearly not the same thing as someone pretending to be black." Also super condescending cause everyone already knows its not literally the same.
@@feelingveryattackedrn5750 why are we denying clear facts for feelings...your metaphor is useless cause guess what, it's still not a gunshot...just cause you have the idea it is and react to it as if it was doesn't mean IT IS...also really?... using PTSD which is already an issue that deals with distortion of reality caused by severe trauma... Reality cannot be measured just by what you feel... You say is distasteful when your only background concept for it is rooted in offense, so you assume it's offense based on YOUR knowledge and views of the world without taking into consideration the other person who doesn't have that very same thought. You were to believe paint on a skin is offensive and that's on you. Claiming it to be something it's not is subduing people into assumptions of character and minimizing them to what you believe were their intentions. Idc if ppl don't like it, beats me, but all I know Blackface isn't just paint on your face, there's so much more ignorance to it...and I live by that and not by some ppl reusing the same rehearsed and worn out claims for certain elements taken out of context. If I can't talk for what things are then you also don't get to tell me anything. I saw it, I questioned it and then reached my conclusions based on facts provided.
It really amazes me how alot of people point their anger to the queens instead of just being mad at WOW presents or the judges, they created the aweful bottom 2, they made Pangina choose this stupid outcome. :') #LemonmyqueenIloveu #DMmelemon xs
Yea, I disagreed with Pangina's decision but it was hers to make not mine and someone was going to be mad at her no matter what. Either eliminate someone who is adored and didn't do the worst in most people's eyes or eliminate the only representation for a country that she was admittedly close with. It was a lose lose for her. At the end of the day it's not that serious and I feel so bad that people would go after Pangina for something so stupid. She is clearly a lovely person who wasn't being malicious.
Lemon and jimbo was at roscoes, it was said that juju's original outfit's zipper broke and that's why she wore something else, and more insider tea from the viewing party. Check it out! Ps, bussy queen your paint is so gorgeous!! ☆
You look STUNNING! Will you be making a makeup tutorial some day? Each video I fall in love with your makeup look, and we have a very similar eye and face shape. I would love to see how you make your eye area look bigger and stop eyelid creasing :)
I was at the Dutch viewing party yesterday and Janey performed And I Am Telling You I'm Not Going because *spoiler* she didn't get eliminated. She performed it in her runway dress and it looks even better in person. She said she'll be wearing all five talent show looks to drag brunch next sunday, so I'm looking forward to that.
Going off the Jimbo “black face” thing, when I first saw her come out, black face didn’t jump to mind. Knowing Jimbo and knowing that they’ve done stuff like that to their face before, I don’t necessarily think you can consider that black flace, and the people that seriously think that what they were doing was black face are just a little too sensitive 😂
I can guarantee most of the people calling her out on twitter are white teens trying to absolve themselves from the white guild they've inherited from tik-tok videos
@@angelpup842 it's actually mostly black people having that conversation, but I guess that doesn't fit the narrative of white teens being responsible for every evil on the world.
there’s no prise money because the bbc is paid for by the public. i believe for the pass uk seasons although they don’t get it on the show ru actually still gives them £100,000 bts x
@Monalisaney81 i dont see an american winning the first season, its gonna cause controversy given the host is american and many people feel the US didnt need to be there period bc it has its own all stars back home, esp given juju's prolly gonna coast on safe runways
I’m a true Jimbo Stan since Day 1 of her work on Canada. Her look was FANTASTIC and while I agree her face wasn’t technically “blackface” it WAS very distracting because I knew others would perceive it that way. Which is a shame because the look is AMAZING.
I still can't get over how genuinely heartbroken lemon was during her bottom placement and subsequent elimination. She KNEW she had not been the best much less the worst so her bottom placement was completely uncalled for. Hoping there is going to be an all-stars format for Canada so she can treat us with another glass of lemonade
@@mrsearmstrongpainting your face black to represent a literal object is not the same as purposefully portraying a black person/stereotypes of them in order to make fun of them. these are two completely different things and if you can't see that, you're the one that is ignorant.
@@CreativeCreatorCreates Most of the contestants are not good at one thing but amazing everywhere else. Also, maybe Jimbo wouldn't have been as bad if she changed outfits or just took out the dress and was in her tights lol. Definitely wouldn't have fallen as much.
The pose that Monique Hart does at 4:18 is a famous pose usually used in Greek art. It is depicting one hand raised to the heavens and one hand pointed to the Earth. "As Above So Below" !
I’m mixed race,Irish Caucasian ma and me Da is black,he’s from Trinidad. I’ve read extensively on the history of black face, Jimbo WAS NOT DOING BLACK FACE.🙄
Regarding jimbos lip sync. They were in insanely large platform boots and just in general when seeing a jimbo show they put on a performance and aren’t a dancing queen in general. She brings that original experience that the lip sync stage doesn’t allow you to deliver
You speak so well, confidant, straight forward, and your funny! I love all your videos and get a little rush of excitement when you upload a new one I think I’m going to sub to your patreon 😘
The BBC is a publicly funded entity here in the UK. Which means that brand deal sponsorships & big cash prizes are a no-no with franchised shows on the beeb. Hence no high stakes for the UK based versions. But Drag Race has been one of the triggers for BBC Three (the “channel” it is shown on) to return as a TV channel rather than an online category. I think it’s great that the queens are still so invested when all they get for winning is bragging rights & publicity. Shows they’re not just in it for the cash.
Jimbos talent KILLED ME. I literally started crying when that ham actually stuck to him 😭 the entire time I was so distracted by jimbo in the background because he was so into the show but looked absolutely ridiculous
sound off about the elimination!!!
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Absolute joke, jujubee should have been in the bottom not lemon. And The Holland queen should have left
I was waiting for his video as soon as I saw the uk vs the world. I thought Lemon was robbed, Riga Morris I tells ya.
Please welcome to the main stage
" Noodle Lusion"
Oh Bussy!!
You kill me lady!
@@Rileyrawr92 as much as I love them both, you are 100% correct
As a black individual, Jimbo did not do blackface. People really need to educate themselves.
But then how are white kids supposed to feel morally superior in front of other white kids?
I love how they tried to say Jimbo is doing blackface when that black colour is what burn to crisp, chess piece colour is and the only time human skin gain that colour is when the body is mummified.
Definitely wasn't black face.
@@ProducerSteveVegas tf are u talking about
@@guesswhat-chickenbutt Seems like the implication here is that the "controversy" was started by white SJW types that see racism and xyz-phobia in everything. Could be true, might not be...personally I don't have enough time on my hands to validate the claim or not, but it's not wholly farfetched
Jimbo wasn't doing blackface she was giving a demon chess piece
Right it was an object not a human
Agreed. I took no offense to this and I actually thought it made her whole outfit look even better. She’s a brave one and I love her for it 😂
Jimbo looked like that ghoul from the Exorcist, uncut.
@@l.b.2592 Damn yeah, she was giving us Pazuzu realness
yeah. though i also do think she probably didn't have time to put on a whole new mug after the talent show so she wiped it off, put on an opaque paint and a blue lip and hoped for the best...
I am a middle aged black woman who has a degree in history. JIMBO WAS NOT WEARING BLACK FACE. He looked like a chess piece (a rook to be more specific) if you ask me. Stop tossing around that term so cavalierly people. I'm so exhausted by ignorant people.
Also blackety black here and this was not black face it's like a monster come on now
Checking in Black also, that was not "blackface". She was a chess piece. People need to go look at a tree.
It seems a lot of people didn't hear Jimbo say he was a chess piece during his voice over on the runway.
This whole discussion feels like was started by someone who DOES NOT GENUINELY CARE about racial issues. They completely ignored the reason why blackface is actually hurtful to POC and just want to see it from their "woke person" POV.
Yup, running around screaming blackface and racism at everything regardless of context and intent is SO damaging and frankly insulting to the actual history of blackface/minstrel shows/racism. I’m so over it. These kids need to get off Twitter and get an education.
The thing that makes me mad is that production is setting the girls up for hate by enforcing All Stars rules. If this is the Olympics of Drag, then the judges should be the ones making the calls. I’m gutted that Lemon went home but I’m also gutted that Pangina is getting death threats for a call she shouldn’t have had to make.
The fandom is responsible for its own hate, if someone watches an elimination on this show and chooses to go onto the twitter of the Queen who won the lipsync, thats on them. People are accountable for their own actions, blaming production just excuses the actions of this rancid fanbase
Why send death threats?! What did lemon lose?
Agreed. The queens voting each other off does absolutely nothing for me in terms of entertainment & I wish they would do away with it.
There's a difference between "blackface" and painting your face black...C'mon people. Let's all just breathe..🤦🏾♂️
FACTS
FR BRO.
What’s the difference, Sean?
@@TheShannonShow. because black is a colour and blackface is making a mockery of black people...? are that daft babes? how u so uneducated on ur own damn races history girl LMFAOOO
@@nozzamsp Oh wow lol. I cant even respond to her stupidity. Glad someone did. High five✋🏾
I actually fully get Juju's runway. She just wasn't sure what "I'm a Winner" is supposed to mean.
Now if the theme had been "I'm in Third place" she would have totally destroyed everyone! Annihilated!
Lol stop
NURSE
Hahaha brilliant 😆
💀
this is so rotted LMAOOO plz
My favorite thing about this episode was every time the camera cut to Jimbo during the other performances! 💖
-Her happy little face in that latex hood 🤣🤣🤣
And just think the whole time he was dancing and smiling during the first performances he had baloney in his pants!
@@jsan3743 I didn’t even think of that! Now I love it more!!!
@@louisebeisheim he talks about it during the Roscoe’s watch party and I was dying!
I swore she was gunna be a demented sperm or something lol
I am getting sick of everyone's "talent" being them lip-synching to their "Look at me (Pu**y's on Fire)" self recorded "rap/dance" tracks. They are usually all the same and are only occasionally memorable.
Same. The only one I remotely like are Kornbreads song and ironically jujus song (not really a dance song) an AS5 even though what she brought this time was meh. Maybe also Jantasy but that was such a short snippet that I don’t even remember it really.
I think it's going to improve now that they have the rights to different song options like on season 14. They didn't have that option here
YAAAS!!! It was very damn boring
SOOOOO TRUE!
It’s like Ru said: “A LIPSYNC?! IN A DRAG COMPETITION?!!”
Anetras is the only one I’ve liked in a very long time
Some tea on Janey's performance. She didn't have time to get the outfits fitted on her properly and they were all still in a stage where they needed altercations, and that's why it looked so ill-fitting on her. Also, the song was what it was because BBC told her it was too dirty, so it needs to be low volume to not be heard properly or something like that, and it resulted in her not being sure if she can lipsync the lyrics, which she meant to.
Also, Juju had a different dress for the runway, but the zipper broke and she had to wear that as a replacement outfit. But still doesn't excuse her wearing an unlined dress on ALL-STARS!?!?!?
This is all based on what Lemon/Jimbo said in Roscoe's.
poor Janey! that sucks a ton
excuses excuses lol
@@mallbratgirl_3005 it's not about excuses lmao production is known to fuck up queens by restricting things they want to do
I appreciated them talking about their friendship. They were totally fine and hadn’t seen each other because they live on other sides of the country. Production being messy again. They also said that queens had to create their songs because the BBC had no rights to other songs. Like Lemon said, “we didn’t have Enya”
We all had the same time, use it better maybe...
Jimbo didn’t do “blackface.” People willfully ignoring context and intent in order to get outraged is completely regressive.
I was so confused about Lemon’s placement and the criticism that she received regarding her outfit choice when Juju, Baga, Janet were on the same runway.. And people need to stop hating on these queens and hate on the production… Pangina was given a choice and she did what felt right to her… Lemon, Jimbo and Mo had the best outfits of the night
I’d say Monique, Jimbo and Pangina’s were the best with Janey as a solid 4th best
@@styles2535 The whole reason why I said Janey was because her outfit is literally the same thing what Blue wore in Season 1 for the one where she was an eye , just in a gown…. I know Juju is a fan favourite and tbh one of my favourite ru girls but that was a robbery in broad daylight
I agree. I don't think Lemon should have been in the bottom. Funny how Ru saved the American queens first. If it weren't for that stunning dress on the runway I'd have said Monique should have lip synced
@@mrinaldas2548 I really thought she was going to be in the bottom and was like well Juju is going home. And was sad because we all love her and want to see her do good but for some reason she just isn't the same compared to the others when it comes to fashions. Which you can have done for you so idk why she doesn't have it done.
But I kinda feel like they didn't because she actually sang maybe and Janey did the dance with a weird song and the outfits to me all looked similar in ways or there was a little detail that messed something up. Which I still thought it was a cool performance. And Lemons idk why she was in the bottom tbh. I literally am having such a hard time focusing on this season so far. It just feels weird. Like they're using the set after hours or idk something feels off
Well I just remembered why I didn't actually like Lemons performance. She really was hitting those cheer choreography competition dance moves with no gusto. Just blank face and doing the moves. Her arms were not noodly but they were not stiff and there. It was like how you practice before you go onto the stage and you're waiting backstage.
I LOVE Pangina, she's incredible and really proving why she's a judge on drag race Thailand.
T. She was very very good
Pangina was great! I honestly haven't seen Drag Race Thailand yet and so I didn't know what to expect but she's gorgeous and talented.
She was good, Jimbo was greatness
@@monkidluffitv Jimbo's overrated.
Did you notice that backstage, Lemon was the only one drinking a yellow drink? Very on brand!
Oh good catch, I just assumed it was alcohol-free or allergen-free
i couldn’t tell if it was cause she’s alcohol-free or if she specifically requested a yellow drink!
Also when she was subtitled it was in yellow
for me janey had the worst performance but i was so much more dissatisfied with everything baga and jujubee did the entire episode that i would’ve put them in the bottom next to janey
ya I could not tell you why Baga was not in the bottom other than the same reason she was hyped on UK1 - Ru lives and breathes for Baga, Ru would probably sell her fracking farm for Baga if she asked
and disclaimer, I think Baga is funny as hell, but her song was not great and her runway was not good lol
at the very least janey was entertaining to watch. baga's made me want to scratch my eyeballs out (nothing against her though) and Jujubee's was flat out buh-ring.
I agree. The bottom 2 queens should have been Jujubee and Janey. Lemon didn't deserve this outcome😟 this coming from someone who doesn't care much for Lemon and actually Loves Jujubee as a drag artist😐
I agree
Jujube definitely deserved a bottom placement for that performance and runway... but anyway stan Jimbo
IDK why Juju is just doing basic looks one after another. Manilla is from an older season and she wiped the floor with everyone else on AS 56789? Whichever one it was.
@@Commentator541 juju has always had mediocre looks and a great personality, personally I think her chance to win was AS5 (or at least she had the looks to back it up) but she couldn’t squeeze out more than 1 challenge win.
And I do think that Shea did better in SG.
@Sebastián Baeza I mean perhaps (I wouldn't know since I dont participate in many drag race spaces) but I dont think that pointing out jujubees faults in this episode is toxic
@@Commentator541 Manila is not from an older season. Jujubee premiered in S2 and Manila was S3. Either way Manila has always had looks. Juju was never a look queen. I do think she should at least elevate her looks at this point.
Also stan pangina
I think Pangina judged the bottom based on standards they have on DR Thailand! Contestants are very critiqued by Art and Pangina when they do something the judges already saw from them (a trick, a wig, a move, etc.) and the number was very reminiscent of Aja's, I must admit. Plus, with her experience as a drag queen and a club owner, Pangina has probably seen quite a lot of numbers like Lemon's (no shade). Just my opinion 🤔 Hope Pan Pan wins, she's amazing, she's a sweetheart 💜
This! I agree with u 100%
Something that I remember also judges is their self-confidence, something that lemon, just seeing that she was at the bottom, completely lost
It was like Aja's if Aja was asleep while doing her performance.
I love Jujubee, but gurl... I look more glamorous when I dress up to go to the supermarket. 😂 She really spent all her budget in the previous 8 races she competed in 😔
I'm praying that she's just low-balling us right now, but I doubt it 😭😭 I love her so much but g-d yeah I agree with you lmao
edit: perhaps Juju is the "new" shangela?
Juju is in on the joke. Her running gag in every entrance look is that she “works at the mall.”
Did she tho?
@@danieluribe3182 shaaaaade
☠️💀 she is so beautiful why can’t she invest more in her looks? Daaaayummmmmmm
I'm Black and I didn't even think of Jimbo's face being Black face till I watched this video. It gave me more creature or monster and not caricature of Black people. I bet you anything that the people making a fuss about this aren't even Black.
Unfortunately that’s how it tends to go.
I don't think Jimbo threw the lip sync, I think she couldn't move well in her shoes, the platforms were massive and on top of being hard to dance in she isn't a strong dancer anyway so she played it safe to not fall over/hurt herself.
Even though she still fell over alot lol
Jimbo could have changed outfit/heals...stop excusing him, he is just not a lipsyncer ... Oh at all.
Jimbo is NOT known for dancing skills. That was Jimbo doing her best lol
Let's be real, if Jimbo was good at lipsyncing on top of being an amazing comedian and look queen, the laws of the universe would be completely rearranged
I think people forget how BAD Jimbo was during her original season when it came to dancing and doing that kind of performance.
Calling that "blackface" is so absurd and delegitimises people who call out actual blackface that is done intentionally to ridicule POC. So annoying
What im hating atm in the fandom is the whole ‘its not original’ criticism. Its season 1,469 of drag race, obviously we’re gonna see some things we’ve seen before. We should be judging the queens on their execution of their performances, not based on other people’s. Thats just my piece, i get when something is done constantly without fail like the finale lip sync reveals, but something like Lemon’s performance in this challenge (which we’ve seen ONCE) shouldnt be judged on Aja’s performance. Juju singing for the millionth time is a different story.
Not to mention haven’t we seen every queen lip sync to their own song. What’s the benchmark for when it’s unoriginal. Also we’ve seen janeys performance before. Milk did a similar talent and I think it was Kita Mean who did it on down under
I think the being original comment is being seen as lemons performance issue but in reality she was just dead in the face and wasn’t embodying the sass of her own song
Also how about rupaul saying on 14 “you ain’t gotta reinvent the wheel”
@@owenspence1396 This, I agree that Juju or maybe Baga could have taken Lemons bottom placement, But I wasn't surprised she was there.
@@owenspence1396 its not just this season though. Its always been a criticism in the fandom and sometimes the judges use it and compare queens to past stars, its so annoying to see and diminishes the talents of the current queens
So Lemon performance was something the judges “have seen before” but all of the other girls doing regular lip synching is not?
*Season 14 girls shaking*
I was shocked at Lemon getting the boot, but very happy Jimbo got top 2! Their performance & runway outfit was class
Holy shit, this is the most liked comment I’ve ever had. I’m in the wrong RUclips niche! 😅
I'm ur 200th like bb 😘
Seriously, I am honestly bored of Juju at this point and would've rather seen Lemon instead.
And nobody is pointing out that Lemon landed on a split, as opposed to Aja's dead drop.
I can't perform either, but a split from that height looks much riskier to me!
That’s actually a great point because (no shade to Aja, I do think she had an incredible glow up performance on AS3) but when I was watching it for the first time (as a former studio competitive dancer) I thought to myself “oh she didn’t exactly land that right or if so I’m surprised that it was as big of an OH MY GOD reaction because she wasn’t actually doing a jump split from that height” and to be honest what Aja did IS much less impressive and “risky” in terms of the ease in doing it compared to say, Laganja’s superhuman leap jump split from the top of a ladder entrance to be the lip synch assassin that she just recently did on AS6 (I think lol) and that Lemon obviously did in this performance, both of which are way more impressive and less messy for sure than Aja’s.
It bothers me so much that people are accusing Jimbo of blackface and I refuse to back down.
Blackface!? Lord, you gotta be kidding me. 😂
BLACK FACE!! Wtf 🤣 people would make up things to put anyone down
ikr they need to get their heads out of their asses, people are just dying to get offended
But it was a white man paited all black….so yeah kinda was blackface
i honestly think the people calling it blackface are the problematic ones
on jimbo's instagram, she said that she didn't have enough time in between her talent show and runway to redo her makeup, so she painted her whole face black from her eyes/mouth in the talent show. there's an instagram post where she shows the makeup she was going to do if she had enough time, which was mainly white.
Speaking for my people, it's not black face. Black face is as stated, an intentional mocking of black people in a derogatory/racist way through face paint/gestures, etc. Jimbo is CLEARLY a chess piece and they are often black and white. I do agree though that the paint was a bit distracting from what I consider a near perfect runway look. I would have LIVED if there had been a gorgeous beat mug with that dress. It really is like a final runway look that you would want to see last episode. I hope though that she didn't pull out the best for first, because either you really have to have spent a lot of coin to keep that momentum going or everything else might just be meh because that is a high bar for episode one.
Jimbo said in their confessionals that they brought alot of expensive dresses
Jimbo was great all through CDR. I'm not concerned they won't be consistent.
I actually thought that the look would have been better with a beautiful painted face as well. The garment was exquisite and I felt the paint detracted from it. I mean as a whole it was still stunning but I think if he was going to paint his face he could have tried something more artistic like how Gottmik paints.
A gorgeous mug beat wouldn't be on brand for Jimbo though. Her brand is specifically demented clown, and when she leans into that she's at her best.
@@lust4248 Can't wait to see them. Hopefully she lasts longer so we can.
As a Canadian, that first ep was extremely entertaining / stressful! I’m extremely sad to see Lemon go!!!! I feel like she definitely didn’t deserve to be in the bottom!!
Regardless, Lemon is amazing. Now excuse me while I go listen to her rap on "Come Through" for the millionth time.
..gotta say tho .. In the werk room I had a feeling that the Canadian girls weren't well received ..a bit of premonition .. But as long as Jimbo continues to make Ru laugh, we're all good !
I am still LIVID about Lemons elimination. It is beyond me how Jujubee, yet again, can just skate by like that.
I love me some Lemon too and really wanted to see her go further ! 🍋💃🤗
They need her there bc she's funny, they can't eliminate her. This season is sooo clearly produced.
Seriously, I am honestly bored of Juju at this point and would've rather seen Lemon instead.
in the roscoes viewing lemon says they made everyone do their talent twice and they chose the first take, which personally I would also be rushing through if I knew I had to do that all over again
Why would you rush if you knew you had to do it again? It’s to help them have two shots at performing I thought
i'm kinda biased because i'm dutch, so i'm really happy that janey is still in the competition but lemon should not have been in the bottom to begin with
Hahaha precies dit
I feel like non-speaking Drag Race spin-off are overlooked by the American audience and this is why I'm rooting for Pangina and Janey. They are the two who have the most exposure to earn from this show. Also, it seems Janey was casted to be set up for early elimination, So I'm glad Pangina (and completely understand why) chosed to save her.
@@Vaelios3292 agree 💯 janey was a finalist! And pangina is super fierce people need to see them shine
Michelle saying “we’ve seen it before” like everyone in the audience can jump off a ledge and land into a split like it’s nothing 🙄
We’ve seen a lot of those types of performances before except maybe Jimbo….seemed like a weird critique
I Will say the whole "no prize money, donating proceeds to charity" thing is just more of a part of british TV culture than it is in america. the BBC is a non-commercial channel so they couldn't afford huge prizes, and if they were to keep the proceeds from the song it likely wouldn't go down well over here. Also charities like children in need are very culturally important over here and they have long standing relationships with basically all of the major TV channels
I’m thinking they may have gotten paid upfront for participating.. I know most say yes that work with Rupaul close, I’d love to see any of them do the Vegas show in the future
@@ajadomonique all the queens get paid for every episode they are in, they just get paid pennies to the hundred of dollars that Viacom and WOW gets.
The bbc are not allowed to give prize money out
Ru said a portion of the proceeds is going to charity, not all of it. We don't know what that portion is, so it could even be 10% each to the two charities then 40% each for Ru and the winner queen (I mean, it definitely won't be that - I'm sure Ru will probably have like 50% at least, then the charities, then a little trickle to the winner but who knows?)
I thought it was the BBC with no prize money. It is also a government funded network so having prize money is inappropriate. I guess even with sponsors giving the money people may still get it twisted that taxpayers are funding this show. It would be the same with Canada's Drag Race if it were on the CBC (Canadian BBC). There was a prize for the Canadian Show since it was on Crave, not the CBC.
If you think Jimbo was doing blackface, you need to sit down, breathe, and then watch what ACTUAL BLACKFACE looks like. Or ask your kindergarten teacher for some juice to calm you down. But seriously, isn't it about time that we got over this conflation of the term "Black" as applied to ethnicity and the color "black" as applied to a color wheel? Let's pick our battles, people. If you're focusing on whether an artist should have referenced a chess piece, you're NOT focusing on the fact that we still haven't passed the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act, that police unions are still protecting racist cops from consequences, that 40% of those incarcerated in the US are Black (compared to 13% of the population), that only 1% of Fortune 500 CEOs are Black, and that nearly 20% of the Black population in the US live in poverty, compared to 11% of the population as a whole (setting aside the horror of that 11% number for now). C'mon Bob, FOCUS!!!
It was a great episode for the first of this franchise. The judging of course was controversial, which Rupaul is happy about. I was gagged with the elimination, but bummed that the fandom goes rabid over the outcome.
I want to see whose lipstick Jimbo had. Plus, curious if this elimination will top Manila's or Shangela's in ratings. Mama is very happy with her new international TV show. 😁
Jimbo revealed the lipstick at Roscoe's go watch the viewing party vid! Great to like and subscribe to all the queer content you can to support them!
Jimbo said at Roscoes that she chose Janey to go home
Ru isn't bummed, Ru is happy about the rabid fandom. He just gets paid enough to have someone else help him tune it out. Would be able to help out his Emmy winning employees lol.
Like you understand that Ru is an executive producer and has more say than what any regular host has. And he constantly says he has the power as well so why doesn't he make Viacom/WOW. But look where we are now, LGBTQ people are attacking each other and people that say they are fans of some queens but attack others are very common.
USA! USA! USA!
It was clearly Janey. You knew when she leaned in to Lemon and whispered "I'm sorry I wasn't a better dancer."
Jimbo actually revealed by the very end of the episode while Lemon was walking away, saying 'I wish I could dance better' implying that she had chosen Janey's lipstick.
I couldn’t agree more with you except for Monique, her performance was not enjoyable. I would’ve easily swapped out Lemon for her, Juju, or Cheryl. Jimbo is my front runner and hopefully can win it so there is some justice for Lemon. 💛
I was thinking the same thing but at least Mo's look was elevated so yeah, it was between Cheryl and Juju for me.
Love love love love mo heart ..... But the vocals and hair was not it for me
Category is: Red Carpet Eleganza
And the winner is Bussy Queen.
Every choice in this episode reeks of production choices, except for the lipsync. That lipsync was the Pangina challenge gauntlet. Kudos to Pangina for not only delivering a greaf lipsync, but doing so dealing with a queen getting in her way.
It’s Pangina saving Jimbo from dying for me🤣🤣🤣
Love love love the way you addressed the "black face" controversy. Getting info from Bob and not trying to be a judge of it. great job there
I think jimbo had probably the funniest act we’ve ever had on dragrace including comedy and roasts. And lemon did NOT deserve to go home period
Lol, still doesn't beat any of Ben's.
I would've agreed but Willow's was weirder lol
The black painted face gave the look even more impact, especially how the eyes and lip pop. I just wished it had a bit more dimension or black glitter because it looked a bit dull compared to the amazing outfit. Still by far my fav look of the evening!
Jimbo is gold 🤣 I was dying the whole episode every time in talent show the camera panned back to Jimbo weird ass look bobbing his head 😂 more more more love it
Jimbo rocking out in the ghost costume when the other queens were performing was honestly so pure lol
The only incentive for winning the lipsync is that you won’t create an enemy by having to reveal a lipstick with the name of the contestant who stayed (if the winning queen chose a different lipstick than you).
1. I think Baga should have been in the bottom. Aside from my personal annoyance to her overly milked catch phrase. She was literally singing off beat…to her own song. & her runway was THE WORST on the stage. 2. Blu definitely could not have replaced one of the top queens. Her performance was A+ but like you said that runway was not lol so no way. The only thing we agreed on this week was the fact that Lemon got robbed!! 😩💛
As a British person I feel at almost every point in the season Baga only got by cos they’re British, and it’s UK vs the world, so a producer would say it’s odd to get rid of the only Brit. Should’ve gone way sooner, and Lemon absolutely shouldn’t have been first gone.
I was feeling the same way when Michelle had the nerve to say Lemons look isn’t elevated esp when 1 minute later she praised Janey’s look (Janey looked AMAZING, but that look was arguably not as elevated as Lemon’s esp when u consider the self reference from her pageant runway from her og season)
My issue with Jujubee's dress was that it wasn't even lined! it was just fabric wrapped around in a halter neck. At least line it if we are going to see the underside.
I honestly understand completely why Pangina chose to eliminate Lemon. She was judging the way she would on drag race Thailand and actually basing it on both the performance and the runway and not just the performance. She also did listen to what the judges had to say, and what the judges had to saw was Lemon (somehow) did the worst all together. Personally, I do think production set up this shocking elimination. They knew Pangina would go off of what the judges said and they figured Jimbo would either throw the lip sync or send her sister home so she could be the only canadian queen. It just seemed very produced bc we all know that Lemon didn’t do the worst or look the worst, yet the judges decided to make it seem like she did.
I love your look Bussy! The red updo, jacket and lips with the eyeliner and necklace is utter perfection. If I was a rich this would be my “casual lounging around the house” look 🥺
Your mug is STUNNING ! So glad Jimbo was well received. This whole episode made me very happy!
THIS
Jimbo did amazing. It actually never crossed my mind as black-face. I thought it was like resurrected queen. I also wondered if Jimbo purposely lip synced poorly.
I’m over the talent shows just being lip syncs, even if it is their own song.
Obviously when it comes to Jimbo's "black face" it was painted this way to give contrast to little white lips. Making a thing out of this is nothing else than time waste.
At a viewing party lemon and jimbo said that what originally happened was that jimbo said: "you dont have to worry about the elimination, theres no way im chosing you. you are my sister" and the producers told them there has to be some mistery there.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they crowned Jujubee this time only to have her again on all-winners season 2.
Otherwise next is All Stars Galactic / Universal.
oh earth would lose for sure, have you seen those martian drag queens in Mars Attacks! .... theyre on a whole other level
All stars just Juju season 1.
Nope, Jujubee is eliminated in an episode named "Frog" by Serena Cha Cha
With Jimbo's challenge show, my jaw dropped, closed dropped again, I screamed, I cried, HONESTLY WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT DSJFBDSBFDSK I LOVED EVERY SECOND OF IT.
Yes! Bussy is saying basically what I was saying right after seeing the episode - Jujubee should be bottom two
I mean, I love Jujubee, but how many times have we seen her sing with nothing truly special about the performance?
@@Wolfsinger96 I love her too but for fairness she should have been in bottom.
Seriously, I am honestly bored of Juju at this point and would've rather seen Lemon instead.
This year seems to be the year of crazy WTF performances... I for one would love to see a Jimbo/Willow Pill collab at some point! Is the world ready though?
They should totally tour together. Very different brands of weird and with different references, but you know you're gonna get thoughtful and wild shit from both.
The reason they can't get any prize money is because the show is on BBC, which brings into question - why is the BBC allowed to host this season?
Maybe because they commissioned and paid for it?
@@johnlacey8935 And who wouldn't want a network to commission it who doesn't require them giving out any award money.
Lol what do you mean "allowed"? No other UK network wanted Drag Race UK, and I assume BBC3 were smart enough to have a contract for a certain number of seasons.
@@LJL-4377 I meant in the WoWsphere, I think it should have been in the US first personally. I know they're going to be rotating countries.
@@LJL-4377 it's only uk vs the world because it's on the BBC, not the other way around. They could have gone with a non uk program.
Having gotten to see Pangina perform in person and meet her, she’s a kook! And such an amazing performer! So excited to see more of her!
I loved all runway looks. Just watched the episode today and have set the series to record. Glad that Pangina won her first challenge.
I can’t with Lemon being in the bottom-and I love Pangina, so there’s no hate towards them-but Jujubee deserved to be bottom 2 and Janey was the clear chop of the night. Jujubee is one of my absolute favourite queens, but that whole night was just meh… that being said, there’s nothing worth fighting for on this series, so it can play out however but stiiiiillllll
I found this first episode to be really cringey and really hard to watch with the unnecessary shade, lack of international diversity and seeming low budget they are working with.
the unfairness of holland and thailand having to compete alone when clearly these are teams of 2 sans the host, they caught on quick though and seemed to form their own alliance
TBH I probably would've put Jujubee and Janey in the bottom too but I think Lemon was a fair choice. Her performance was really lacking. When you think to yourself "hmm I have seen this before" on a perfomance, it's not good. My winner was probably Jimbo but Pangina was great too.
Im not sure if michelle was told to give that critic or shes just really delusional. lemon’s look was amazing!
You mean critique. A critic is a person.
@@seantodd8875 so that was your takeaway? 🙄🙄🙄
@@stephenepacta8418 Yes, it was. When you've worked so long in printing, as I have, these errors are glaring. It's important to make sure that your written words are clear or else you risk being misunderstood at best, and appearing ignorant at worst.
jimbo’s runway look reminded me of something gottmik would wear i absolutely loved it i do wish the makeup had been more intricate like i wish it had more details or looked more polished
The baga favoritism has started again. 🤦🏾♀️
I dont understand why production does that. Why so much favoritismo to her? She's not even that good TV.
Don’t know where this “jimbo threw the lip sync” myth originated from … she’s just not a good lip syncer. i mean, did anybody watch her elimination episode on CDR? she might slay if it was a lip sync song that suits her drag persona better but she did bad and pangina won, period.
At least we know when Jimbo places too two she won't ever be the one to send a queen home ... Lol could u imagine Jimbo flopping all her top lipsyncs
Jimbo was still lighter than Raven
Jimbo's runway was sooo good! That chess piece demon look. I live! 👏🏽 It's a Diego Montoya creation. The same person who made Blair, Jujubee and Miz Cracker's AS5 finale eleganza runways.
I love all parts of your vid even the makeup ads, 😂 your male-to-female transformation is so gorgeous. The reviews of different candidates are in-depth as well, very different from the RuPaul drag show itself.
Re: Baga's Runway. ALL I see is Scarlet Envy's Swamp Thing look from the Monster Ball, and I can not unsee it.
Finally after all these years people are starting to see that being in the top two on all stars doesn’t mean you automatically win the challenge… like where’s the balance In that, also I remember a conversation after as4 snatch game and Manila saying, “Trinity did so much better than me, BUT for the people on Wikipedia I still won this episode; because she won the lip sync.” Also it’s not like there was never a prize like the ru Peter badges, they got money after they won the lip sync indicating they won the episode and the prize.
Wait I’m SO confused. Can you explain the Manila thing? Sorry
@@ChiraRaddahRaddah she said she won the episode because she won the lip sync and that should have been proof enough for people
Got it! Ty!
Actually on AS2-AS4, being top 2 meant you won the challenge. That's why both top 2 queens receive a prize for winning the challenge. Yes the lipsync winner ultimately won the episode but the other top 2 queen was also a challenge winner. I don't think that will apply to this season tho
I understand that, but I also like the idea of both top 2 technically “winning” the episode, especially for really short seasons like this. With only like 6 episodes having more queens winning per episode makes it way more interesting.
I honestly think she just painted her face black because it was easier given probably the limited amount of time between talent show and runway. And since she had no drag makeup on in the talent show😂
Correction: at 4:10, it says Mo was on All Stars 5, but she was actually on All Stars 4. Not a huge deal, just wanted to point it out
We are going to blame it on the edit 😉😂
@@Angie-aoann you the one who said it
My whole entire thing about this, is if you’re going to do a talent show, I feel the producers should ask the girls to do varying talents. It felt just kind of like a fancier drag show at the club at some points. Don’t get me wrong there were some absolutely beautiful performances, but then there are some performances that I could go to West Hollywood and see on a typical Saturday night
they do the opposite, they tell the girls they have to do something safe and basic bc legal reasons. adore, coco, etc etc
@@MyidolGwen Please elaborate! I remember Coco's "talent" being her acting insane like a little girl and cleaning things.
This reminds me of the Colton Haynes MCR 'i don't love you' MV controversy. The man was painted BLACK, the COLOR BLACK, the PIGMENT BLACK IE pigment that doesn't bounce light of any color in the visible spectrum; And was thrown to the pits for it when there was never an Indictation or attitude of pretending to be any other race...he was just painted black NOT as a black person
Diming black ppl and equating black paint as a 'representation' of the afro race is extremely disgusting and backwards...
There is a difference in painting your skin a color and then proceeding to pretend to be part of that race, use their culture to your gains, exagerate their features and or mock them...
i fucking love mcr and that music video
@@gayfield420 SAME it's so iconic and the use of back and white as physical representations of duality and oposition of concepts and feelings are just * chef kisses * and the song...I just cry, everytime
If a war vet gets triggered from something that sounds like a gunshot, it doesnt matter to them or the people that care about them that its not actually a gunshot. The point being that white people putting on black (and I do mean black, not just brown) paint has a recent history tied to discrimination and trauma. If black people find that distasteful, even acknowledging that its not the same as minstrelsy in this case, its still distasteful. You become part of the problem when you go around saying "you have no right to feel this way cause its clearly not the same thing as someone pretending to be black." Also super condescending cause everyone already knows its not literally the same.
@@feelingveryattackedrn5750 why are we denying clear facts for feelings...your metaphor is useless cause guess what, it's still not a gunshot...just cause you have the idea it is and react to it as if it was doesn't mean IT IS...also really?... using PTSD which is already an issue that deals with distortion of reality caused by severe trauma...
Reality cannot be measured just by what you feel...
You say is distasteful when your only background concept for it is rooted in offense, so you assume it's offense based on YOUR knowledge and views of the world without taking into consideration the other person who doesn't have that very same thought. You were to believe paint on a skin is offensive and that's on you.
Claiming it to be something it's not is subduing people into assumptions of character and minimizing them to what you believe were their intentions.
Idc if ppl don't like it, beats me, but all I know Blackface isn't just paint on your face, there's so much more ignorance to it...and I live by that and not by some ppl reusing the same rehearsed and worn out claims for certain elements taken out of context.
If I can't talk for what things are then you also don't get to tell me anything. I saw it, I questioned it and then reached my conclusions based on facts provided.
@@yellowmesh7821 ??? People's feelings are the facts in question lmfao. You sound like Ben Shapiro
lmaoo, i wish they wouldn’t force them to talk abt trauma while they’re getting ready it’s so random n obviously forced lol
It really amazes me how alot of people point their anger to the queens instead of just being mad at WOW presents or the judges, they created the aweful bottom 2, they made Pangina choose this stupid outcome. :') #LemonmyqueenIloveu #DMmelemon xs
Yea, I disagreed with Pangina's decision but it was hers to make not mine and someone was going to be mad at her no matter what. Either eliminate someone who is adored and didn't do the worst in most people's eyes or eliminate the only representation for a country that she was admittedly close with. It was a lose lose for her. At the end of the day it's not that serious and I feel so bad that people would go after Pangina for something so stupid. She is clearly a lovely person who wasn't being malicious.
I saw you in Bob’s space and I said, “I bet Bussy is hard at work.” Not surprised you came with receipts.
Lemon and jimbo was at roscoes, it was said that juju's original outfit's zipper broke and that's why she wore something else, and more insider tea from the viewing party. Check it out!
Ps, bussy queen your paint is so gorgeous!! ☆
You look STUNNING! Will you be making a makeup tutorial some day? Each video I fall in love with your makeup look, and we have a very similar eye and face shape. I would love to see how you make your eye area look bigger and stop eyelid creasing :)
I was at the Dutch viewing party yesterday and Janey performed And I Am Telling You I'm Not Going because *spoiler* she didn't get eliminated. She performed it in her runway dress and it looks even better in person. She said she'll be wearing all five talent show looks to drag brunch next sunday, so I'm looking forward to that.
Where does this drag brunch take place??
@@dirkandi Blend XL in Amsterdam.
@@TheUncannyDani Hartelijk bedankt!!
I’m convinced that the way to get the judges to love your talent is to just do a bunch of random, confusing, nonsensical stuff 😂
Going off the Jimbo “black face” thing, when I first saw her come out, black face didn’t jump to mind. Knowing Jimbo and knowing that they’ve done stuff like that to their face before, I don’t necessarily think you can consider that black flace, and the people that seriously think that what they were doing was black face are just a little too sensitive 😂
I can guarantee most of the people calling her out on twitter are white teens trying to absolve themselves from the white guild they've inherited from tik-tok videos
@@angelpup842 its these little kids tryna stay “woke” i swear 😂
@@NLS84 LEGIT!
Lol “knowing” Jimbo, do you? Do you know “Jimbo” if you think those people are a little too sensitive than I think you are a little too delusional 😂
@@angelpup842 it's actually mostly black people having that conversation, but I guess that doesn't fit the narrative of white teens being responsible for every evil on the world.
there’s no prise money because the bbc is paid for by the public. i believe for the pass uk seasons although they don’t get it on the show ru actually still gives them £100,000 bts x
I would've preferred that this Drag Race they would've chosen 2 of each DR franchise: UK, Thailand, USA, Canada, Spain,
Italy, and Holland.
Italy, Spain, and Down Under were filmed after this Season filmed.
I think lemon was purposefully sent off first because production didn’t want her to win bc she had it in her to win
@Monalisaney81 i dont see an american winning the first season, its gonna cause controversy given the host is american and many people feel the US didnt need to be there period bc it has its own all stars back home, esp given juju's prolly gonna coast on safe runways
I’m a true Jimbo Stan since Day 1 of her work on Canada. Her look was FANTASTIC and while I agree her face wasn’t technically “blackface” it WAS very distracting because I knew others would perceive it that way. Which is a shame because the look is AMAZING.
Yes totally agree !!! I loved the look and it clearly isn’t blackface but what was the point in it ? Like her face didn’t need to be painted ?
The lesson here is: don't let your perception of other's perceptions of something ruin that thing for you ;)
“The only unofficial” bit at the beginning 😂😂 the shaaaade
I still can't get over how genuinely heartbroken lemon was during her bottom placement and subsequent elimination. She KNEW she had not been the best much less the worst so her bottom placement was completely uncalled for. Hoping there is going to be an all-stars format for Canada so she can treat us with another glass of lemonade
On behalf of all black people: We Stan Jimbo, she’s NOT doing blackface 🙄
Shhh you don’t speak for all of us
@@mrsearmstrong do you think she did blackface?
@@miseriabelle6843 yes I do. If she wanted to paint her face so desperately she should have made the face mask black and did her face in white 😒
@@mrsearmstrongpainting your face black to represent a literal object is not the same as purposefully portraying a black person/stereotypes of them in order to make fun of them. these are two completely different things and if you can't see that, you're the one that is ignorant.
totally agree about the bottom two. should’ve been juju and janey. also agree that jimbo probably threw the lip sync.
Jimbo is not a good lipsyncer. They got sent home their first lipsync.
@@pugdad2555 yep. Jimbo is a rotten dancer, but an amazing everything else.
@@CreativeCreatorCreates Most of the contestants are not good at one thing but amazing everywhere else.
Also, maybe Jimbo wouldn't have been as bad if she changed outfits or just took out the dress and was in her tights lol. Definitely wouldn't have fallen as much.
The pose that Monique Hart does at 4:18 is a famous pose usually used in Greek art. It is depicting one hand raised to the heavens and one hand pointed to the Earth. "As Above So Below" !
if baga had sold that look in a fashion way, as an armored soldier or a queen at war, that would be amazing. but an oscar??? nobody saw it
I’m mixed race,Irish Caucasian ma and me Da is black,he’s from Trinidad. I’ve read extensively on the history of black face, Jimbo WAS NOT DOING BLACK FACE.🙄
Regarding jimbos lip sync. They were in insanely large platform boots and just in general when seeing a jimbo show they put on a performance and aren’t a dancing queen in general. She brings that original experience that the lip sync stage doesn’t allow you to deliver
You speak so well, confidant, straight forward, and your funny! I love all your videos and get a little rush of excitement when you upload a new one I think I’m going to sub to your patreon 😘
The BBC is a publicly funded entity here in the UK. Which means that brand deal sponsorships & big cash prizes are a no-no with franchised shows on the beeb. Hence no high stakes for the UK based versions. But Drag Race has been one of the triggers for BBC Three (the “channel” it is shown on) to return as a TV channel rather than an online category. I think it’s great that the queens are still so invested when all they get for winning is bragging rights & publicity. Shows they’re not just in it for the cash.
Jimbos talent KILLED ME. I literally started crying when that ham actually stuck to him 😭 the entire time I was so distracted by jimbo in the background because he was so into the show but looked absolutely ridiculous
Bussy is so bougie that she thinks baloney is ham.
Well it was ham cause we don’t have baloney in the UK