@@NewScottishGentry could be an engineer tired of his engineer buddies not knowing any real world skills. Or for a class maybe - teaching young engineers basics of propulsion?
There's an age of sail version of this in a sense, 'A Patient Ocean' on PC. You can traverse the world in a British frigate of the 1790s, managing all the sails to get the right speed, handling. It's great fun though quite rough around the edges.
It was interesting to learn some of the factors that have to be managed in order to moor a ship. It would also be interesting to watch how you would deal with some of the other variables apparently offered in this game. And finally a similar commentary on a video of a video of a real life mooring of a ship would complete the set and my wish list. BTW great video and great series.
If you think there are improvements to be made on how the ships handle, you should give feedback to the developer. I'm sure they want to improve the app, and feedback from knowledgeable users is always welcome.
I'm glad you made this. I've only recently gotten into the world of ships, it's really nice to get impressions like this from someone that knows and lives the real-world experience.
Very interesting seeing you explain all your knowledge using a live simulation instead of animation. Its like what you said and tought in a few older videos was being shown in action in this one, as a way to really combine all the topics from other videos. Imo this is a great addition to your style of videos :)
For me, this video is pretty much on brand for you. We all can't be manoeuvreing an ocean tanker and this app allows a land lubber like me stuck at home to experience even a fraction of it.
I just found your channel and like it quite allot specifically because of the variety of information. “There’s allot to ships” is an understatement. You do a great job presenting information.
Huh, I'm programming a game with ships now as it happens. Funnily enough you don't actually need to programme momentum, instead you deduct friction from your velocity vector. Is there somewhere where ship force equations are written down? It's hard to say what turn friction should be for example, it will be a complex function of z and x velocity and rotational speed. Also, my game is 3d, is there a y component, any pitch or roll forces? Any idea how you would you go about finding these equations?
I'm not sure. In the industry we don't usually worry about the equations themselves as it would be too hard to do calculations while manoeuvring. I've seen some papers online, so an Internet search may be enough?
There are definitely equations. A few days ago I watched a great video from Mathematician Matt Parker where he was doing Orbital Mechanics equations with Astronaut Chris Hadfield and Cmdr Hadfield said of knowing the equations involved in the video "we don't do the math in public but instead deal with the practicalities in real time". It's a fun video to check out. And Matt Parker In general does a lot of stuff with math and Programming on his channel he might have covered some stuff that applies to what you're looking for even ruclips.net/video/PooFvQEN4n8/видео.html
@@CasualNavigation Eh when it comes to questions like that I think it would be better to ask a ship designer as they would be more familiar with modelling and predicting ship behaviour like that. After all, being able to do this well can make the difference between your greatest investment in a crappy design being in the form of some screwed up paper in the waste paper basket rather than a very expensive detailed scale model prototype, ideally only want to move on to building the latter when you already have a fairly good degree of confidence the design is workable, rough around the edges is ok at that stage but if you start building prototypes of ships that are fundamentally flawed from the outset the apparent inability to tell designs not worth even the paper they were drafted on from those worth persuing would likely lead to serious questions regarding competence from your boss, your client or more likely both.
Cool to get videos like this one that are mostly entertaining but still draw on the content of previous videos, helps with the learning! I like game reviews but only as far as you find them realistic and well made (as is the case here, so not just a long review to explain all that is wrong with a given simulator). Thank you and keep up the nice work :)
Thanks Thom. I tried to do it while maintaining the theme of my channel. There are lots of gaming channels already and I didn't want to repeat what they do
Have you heard of Narrowboat Simulator? It's a free 3d boat simulator where you navigate canals, go up locks and have to complete a variety of challenges all with the limits of moving the rudder. Its realistic and I would definitely recommend!
I once watched a training video where they train the helmsman on a simulator and it seems like the lack of counterhelm simulation is a common problem across all simulators, maybe the better ones are more realistic but here the instructor just say "in real life you might find the ship still drifting after putting rudder amidship so some counterhelm is needed depending on the ship"
Been using a similar game ship sim 3d. Like this one same steering exagerations, all feels a little too maneuverable for ship size but still good fun. Love ya work Captain.
Realy good video!! As an absolutely non Mariner i tested it and i like this game!!! And a few hours later i tried the narrowboat simulator, truly also a hidden gem !
I love your vids! I didn't know that I'd find this one interesting, having no understanding of how a ship is controlled. I found it very interesting nonetheless, and enjoyed watching your demo in the second half.
If the Iowa is modeled accurately to the prototype, she should be a quad screw design. No idea if they are independently controllable, though I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't be.
Great video; thanks! I can't quite seem to get differential thrust to pivot the vessel in a functional way as shown in the earlier ship handling video (tried on the twin-screw and twin azipod, and I always get impractically low rates of turn); is this just another oversight or did I just not find the right setting of power to accomplish it?
. Downloaded this for my 7 year old. He's liking it so far. Even though he has ZERO idea on the complexities of mooring, he's doing a pretty good job. .
Hey would be very interesting to see you making a review of European Ship Simulator for PC it is a pretty good and realistic game of simulating ship handling.
I thought it was a nice change of pace :) perhaps it could be followed up by the simulator that comes as close to reality as possible. Or perhaps if there is an app that teaches you the various knots related to mooring a ship, that would be interesting. But an e-book will also suffice on the latter. Thanks for a great channel.
I'm enjoying experimenting with some different styles. Just as long as it maintains the theme of being entertaining / educational about the maritime world
One time i was riding my bike along a canal and saw a rather large ship for that size of canal. I stopped and watched it make an almost 90 degree turn and through a opened bridge. And it sure looked like he/she mainly used the bow thruster to steer.
I reckon you could have done that berthing without tugs mate - looked like a well approached berth. That bow got a lot closer to the wharf edge than my Captain would like though!
@@CasualNavigation yeah I've downloaded the game myself (having a lot of fun!) - turns out it registers a collision with the tugs if you never connect them while unberthing! Sounds like some tugmasters I've come across in my career haha
Thanks for this - will keep me nicely amused while waiting about for ships! Just done a few levels; does it include wind and tide factors further into the system?
•EY MATE Good video I Loved It. I Don't Know Theres A Simulation Game Like This On Mobile Well² After Everything We've Learned From you..... I Will Take This As AN Exam From You Wish Me luck Mate>>>>>>>
There is another sort game like this called ship mooring 3d wich is pretty much the same except it allows you to watch from all directions like from the left or from the back, has different cameras and has waves
Hah I find this one *harder* because I can't view it from a Ship's head POV! Then again, I'm also used to twin-screw CPP so remembering transverse thrust being a thing is fun.
I would love to see ANYTHING to help me build the right habits for handling a "normal-sized" i.e. 50ft sailboat. Greek and Croatian marinas are something that scares me off still, and you can never have enough practice. Any tips? iOS apps? Cheers! :)
Very fine work .. I'd like to watch a video about tugboats selection according to Bullard pull needed and propeller type (vsp, asd, traditiinal, ... ) Thanks ..
There are old version of this game. New version of it already released- ShipSim3D from the same developer - Alexander Turkin. This game is the most advanced. You can change the view and increase motion when you need. Enjoy!!!
There's also ship morning 3D if you don't know that but they removed the Queen Mary and they also put Britannic and Olympic aquitania and Mauritania which there's no entertaining I was so confused
Question If a ship fitted with azimuth thrusters needs to reverse, is it better to run the engines in reverse or spin the pod around and run the engines forward?
It's interesting to see how much time you spend with zero engine input. Coming from a truck driving background on the road we are told you always need to be under power and in gear to have control. If you're not in gear you're screwed.
I said on another video to go to TimB at Sea who does this in real time with his tug in the notch on a fuel barge where you get wind and tide too. Interesting though.
Anyone have suggestions for a good PC Ship Simulator? I'm not looking for fancy graphics like MS2020, as long as it has alright physics and handling, and a free roam mode, I'd love it
damn this level of commitment is pretty rare in phone games, must be a passion project.
Imagine some game company collaborated with the developer of this game to make a 3d openworld version of this
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also surprised an engineer did this and not a deckie!!
@@NewScottishGentry could be an engineer tired of his engineer buddies not knowing any real world skills. Or for a class maybe - teaching young engineers basics of propulsion?
@@AErch world of warships is pretty realistic
I just realised how important patience is to parking ships. I can totally see what a disaster being rushed would be.
I can see myself rushing and causing a disaster...
You could do a mini series with this game showing how to moore with the different ships and propulsion systems
If this video proves successful then I may do that
Casual Navigation please do!!!
@@CasualNavigation ok
@@CasualNavigation ok
And a submarine too!!!
I enjoyed that video. It was different but still relevant. Good Job
Thanks Lionheart
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There's an age of sail version of this in a sense, 'A Patient Ocean' on PC. You can traverse the world in a British frigate of the 1790s, managing all the sails to get the right speed, handling. It's great fun though quite rough around the edges.
It was interesting to learn some of the factors that have to be managed in order to moor a ship.
It would also be interesting to watch how you would deal with some of the other variables apparently offered in this game.
And finally a similar commentary on a video of a video of a real life mooring of a ship would complete the set and my wish list.
BTW great video and great series.
Thanks Al. I'd love to review actual acts of pilotage, but its a little tricky to get hold of footage
Good job bro. I actually watched and enjoyed the whole vid. Keep it up
Thanks D J Wizmuzk
If you think there are improvements to be made on how the ships handle, you should give feedback to the developer.
I'm sure they want to improve the app, and feedback from knowledgeable users is always welcome.
Loving this broader range of naval related content. Keep up the great work!
Cheers Ralph
I'm glad you made this. I've only recently gotten into the world of ships, it's really nice to get impressions like this from someone that knows and lives the real-world experience.
Very interesting seeing you explain all your knowledge using a live simulation instead of animation. Its like what you said and tought in a few older videos was being shown in action in this one, as a way to really combine all the topics from other videos.
Imo this is a great addition to your style of videos :)
Thanks Galen. It was nice to bring some of it to life in a different way in this one
For me, this video is pretty much on brand for you. We all can't be manoeuvreing an ocean tanker and this app allows a land lubber like me stuck at home to experience even a fraction of it.
I've been playing this game for 2 years and it's still amazing
I just found your channel and like it quite allot specifically because of the variety of information. “There’s allot to ships” is an understatement. You do a great job presenting information.
Huh, I'm programming a game with ships now as it happens. Funnily enough you don't actually need to programme momentum, instead you deduct friction from your velocity vector.
Is there somewhere where ship force equations are written down? It's hard to say what turn friction should be for example, it will be a complex function of z and x velocity and rotational speed. Also, my game is 3d, is there a y component, any pitch or roll forces? Any idea how you would you go about finding these equations?
I'm not sure. In the industry we don't usually worry about the equations themselves as it would be too hard to do calculations while manoeuvring. I've seen some papers online, so an Internet search may be enough?
There are definitely equations. A few days ago I watched a great video from Mathematician Matt Parker where he was doing Orbital Mechanics equations with Astronaut Chris Hadfield and Cmdr Hadfield said of knowing the equations involved in the video "we don't do the math in public but instead deal with the practicalities in real time". It's a fun video to check out. And Matt Parker In general does a lot of stuff with math and Programming on his channel he might have covered some stuff that applies to what you're looking for even
ruclips.net/video/PooFvQEN4n8/видео.html
@@CasualNavigation Eh when it comes to questions like that I think it would be better to ask a ship designer as they would be more familiar with modelling and predicting ship behaviour like that. After all, being able to do this well can make the difference between your greatest investment in a crappy design being in the form of some screwed up paper in the waste paper basket rather than a very expensive detailed scale model prototype, ideally only want to move on to building the latter when you already have a fairly good degree of confidence the design is workable, rough around the edges is ok at that stage but if you start building prototypes of ships that are fundamentally flawed from the outset the apparent inability to tell designs not worth even the paper they were drafted on from those worth persuing would likely lead to serious questions regarding competence from your boss, your client or more likely both.
Cool to get videos like this one that are mostly entertaining but still draw on the content of previous videos, helps with the learning! I like game reviews but only as far as you find them realistic and well made (as is the case here, so not just a long review to explain all that is wrong with a given simulator).
Thank you and keep up the nice work :)
Thanks Thom. I tried to do it while maintaining the theme of my channel. There are lots of gaming channels already and I didn't want to repeat what they do
For some reason, I've just thoroughly enjoyed an 8-min video of a man parallel-parking his boat.
Have you heard of Narrowboat Simulator? It's a free 3d boat simulator where you navigate canals, go up locks and have to complete a variety of challenges all with the limits of moving the rudder. Its realistic and I would definitely recommend!
Awesome stuff Casual Nav. I'm an ETO and it's always nice to see what the deckies do with their spare time (since they have so much of it ;) )
I once watched a training video where they train the helmsman on a simulator and it seems like the lack of counterhelm simulation is a common problem across all simulators, maybe the better ones are more realistic but here the instructor just say "in real life you might find the ship still drifting after putting rudder amidship so some counterhelm is needed depending on the ship"
Been using a similar game ship sim 3d. Like this one same steering exagerations, all feels a little too maneuverable for ship size but still good fun. Love ya work Captain.
Pleasantly informative and interesting as usual.
It's really cool how this guy always explain stuff for only 10 minutes or less
I prefer to only take the time I need. No need to stretch it out
@@CasualNavigation nice , this is the type of RUclips channel I like
I liked the comparison to real ship handling here it was interesting to see how much of morning is being aware of momentum
Thanks Michael. Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks Michael. Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks to several hundred hours in kerbal Space Program, I can fly a spaceship.
Soon, I'll be able to pilot a sea ship too.
Realy good video!! As an absolutely non Mariner i tested it and i like this game!!!
And a few hours later i tried the narrowboat simulator, truly also a hidden gem !
Another Video about Maritime Disasters would be really interesting
,i like those videos a lot, keep your work up, its GREAT :)
FYI, the same dude now has a 3D version out which is very cool. It has bridge views and weather and other neat shizzle...
I love your vids! I didn't know that I'd find this one interesting, having no understanding of how a ship is controlled. I found it very interesting nonetheless, and enjoyed watching your demo in the second half.
If the Iowa is modeled accurately to the prototype, she should be a quad screw design. No idea if they are independently controllable, though I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't be.
I've got a lot of school work to do and you show me this... now I got to level 19 in a row :/
Waiting to see parallel you park a cruise ship. I think it would be great addition to your ship handling video.
I wanted to see the ship parked without the tug boats
Great video; thanks!
I can't quite seem to get differential thrust to pivot the vessel in a functional way as shown in the earlier ship handling video (tried on the twin-screw and twin azipod, and I always get impractically low rates of turn); is this just another oversight or did I just not find the right setting of power to accomplish it?
I must say I hadn't tried that as I have not yet unlocked that ship on the manoeuvring mode
I like narrowboat simulator. A little smaller craft but the controls feel right to this non-mariner.
Oh, I love that game.
Seems like it's made out of passion for those boats.
a truly hidden gem!!!( only 20 min into the game) the 360° view is really nice
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Downloaded this for my 7 year old. He's liking it so far.
Even though he has ZERO idea on the complexities of mooring, he's doing a pretty good job.
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Hey would be very interesting to see you making a review of European Ship Simulator for PC it is a pretty good and realistic game of simulating ship handling.
Really? All I ever heard were people roasting it
I have tried it and wasn't too impressed myself
Ship Simulator Extremes is the best I've seen so far for pc. The company is actually working on a new version as well. Should be pretty good.
I'd certainly be interested if they do come out with a new version
@@CasualNavigation Currently under development as Nautis Home by Vstep
Really awesome review. Went to try it out myself and in my opinion this is the best mobile Ship Simulator. Keep up the great work!
I thought it was a nice change of pace :) perhaps it could be followed up by the simulator that comes as close to reality as possible. Or perhaps if there is an app that teaches you the various knots related to mooring a ship, that would be interesting. But an e-book will also suffice on the latter. Thanks for a great channel.
Cheers Michael. I'd love to get into a real simulator for the channel, but unfortunately my budget doesn't stretch that far
I Thought this channel is about explaining ship stuff not game/simulator review (but i love it, a welcome one) do more pls
I'm enjoying experimenting with some different styles. Just as long as it maintains the theme of being entertaining / educational about the maritime world
That was cool, i did not finished ship simulator,
This vid was good, nice vid :)
Love this video, looking forward to see more of these types of videos! :)
Cheers Vincio
Excellent commentary sir shows your professional ship handling skills 👍
One time i was riding my bike along a canal and saw a rather large ship for that size of canal. I stopped and watched it make an almost 90 degree turn and through a opened bridge. And it sure looked like he/she mainly used the bow thruster to steer.
Lovely video! I would love to see more of this and a video about real life simulators
A video like this or even a top 5 or 10 list of new things every day people can either buy for fun or for help.
5:20 "...That's good"
Me who doesn't know jack about anything about mooring: You said it pal
This was good fun, thanks for trying something different, it worked better than I expected :)
Thanks Seth. I did enjoy experimenting with this one. Good to know people are open to it as well.
This was a fun video and tying it back to other videos you made was great!
Thanks twothreebravo.
Bro , you are doing great job 🔥🔥
Cheers Harsh
@@CasualNavigation I CONFIRM, YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB
I reckon you could have done that berthing without tugs mate - looked like a well approached berth. That bow got a lot closer to the wharf edge than my Captain would like though!
Thats another quirk of the game. I did a few without tugs, but it didn't register that the ship was fully docked
@@CasualNavigation yeah I've downloaded the game myself (having a lot of fun!) - turns out it registers a collision with the tugs if you never connect them while unberthing! Sounds like some tugmasters I've come across in my career haha
Interesting... different video this time. Liked it. You always make gr8 videos.
Thanks for this - will keep me nicely amused while waiting about for ships! Just done a few levels; does it include wind and tide factors further into the system?
•EY MATE
Good video
I Loved It. I Don't Know Theres A Simulation Game Like This On Mobile
Well² After Everything We've Learned From you.....
I Will Take This As AN Exam From You
Wish Me luck Mate>>>>>>>
Cheers ADM. Glad you enjoyed it
I use to play this game. What do you think about the bow/stern thrusther effectiveness in speeds more than 2 knots?
That was a really interesting explanation of how to moor a large vessel. Thank you.
There is another sort game like this called ship mooring 3d wich is pretty much the same except it allows you to watch from all directions like from the left or from the back, has different cameras and has waves
As a small FYI - the USS Iowa has 4 Screws, 2 sets of 2, and she has 2 rudders.
So that’s ships are being ported. It might be hard much harder on the Captains FOV. I wish you could have the chance to try it on VR.
Hah I find this one *harder* because I can't view it from a Ship's head POV! Then again, I'm also used to twin-screw CPP so remembering transverse thrust being a thing is fun.
I certainly liked it.
Might I suggest some videos about Navigation? Particularly Charts and Stars
Absolutely loved this game, great practice. Thanks for putting it out there for us to find it.
Ship never handles that smooth when I'm at the helm 😄
Great video 👍
That was very fun. It is always nice to break up the routine so things dont get stuffy.
Reminds me of my 2nd game on Amiga: Ports of Call.
I loved that game! My friend in high school had an Amiga and we would play it for hours!
I was just looking for something to play. I'll definitely will try this one.
Thanks :)
i'd be sweating right now if CASUAL NAVIGATION tried and judge my game.
NICE VIDEO BTW🖒
Would've been a lot more realistic if the Chief called and shouted at you for using all the starting air
I would love to see ANYTHING to help me build the right habits for handling a "normal-sized" i.e. 50ft sailboat. Greek and Croatian marinas are something that scares me off still, and you can never have enough practice. Any tips? iOS apps? Cheers! :)
Very fine work .. I'd like to watch a video about tugboats selection according to Bullard pull needed and propeller type (vsp, asd, traditiinal, ... ) Thanks ..
Please do more videos. I love them
Casual Navigation finally plays a game
Great efforts . Enjoyed evey second of it educational and entertainmenting in yhe same time. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience
Thanks Ahmed
omg i love this review already
I liked it, more diverse content is quite welcome!
Love it
All your videos are so interesting.
I have choosen my career already but if I had the chance I would have loved to study these topics.
Have you seen storm works? It's not quite as accurate as this app but let's you create ships and a lot of their systems
It looks really interesting
There are old version of this game. New version of it already released- ShipSim3D from the same developer - Alexander Turkin. This game is the most advanced. You can change the view and increase motion when you need. Enjoy!!!
I have this game app on my phone from 2018 till now.nice game app for ship sim ,but only on topview available.
Thank you for this wonderful video! I downloaded it.
I downloaded this game few years ago and I was surprised how good it was
There's also ship morning 3D if you don't know that but they removed the Queen Mary and they also put Britannic and Olympic aquitania and Mauritania which there's no entertaining I was so confused
I enjoyed this. Thank you for posting.
00:28 the song it’s so good ✊🏻🥰 ( I already know the name )
This guy can and should be a real captain
Just played it today, it's actually pretty fun
I enjoy the mix of content
Cheers Ted
Casual Navigation thanks man keep up the great work
Question
If a ship fitted with azimuth thrusters needs to reverse, is it better to run the engines in reverse or spin the pod around and run the engines forward?
In the manuals for real life pods, it says its best to spin the pods around
@@CasualNavigation thanks for that, that something I've been wondering for a bit.
Btw the USS Iowa has 4 screws, so that's incorrect.
It looks it only has 2 by the wave but when playing it has 4 screws, so it is correct
@@alfonsobarrado2902 yep
It would be nice if the developer would add some new levels. I’ve tried using the in game level builder and it’s abysmal.
Thanks for the review - I'll have to try that out.
It's interesting to see how much time you spend with zero engine input. Coming from a truck driving background on the road we are told you always need to be under power and in gear to have control. If you're not in gear you're screwed.
That is a neat simulator! Thanks for sharing this, it was a very informative tutorial.
I am looking forward to more of this kind of programming.
Does this game allow me to use a bow spring when mooring
Reminds the Ports of Call game i used to play with my Amiga.
The rate that speed comes on and drops off is crazyyyy fast.
I said on another video to go to TimB at Sea who does this in real time with his tug in the notch on a fuel barge where you get wind and tide too. Interesting though.
Anyone have suggestions for a good PC Ship Simulator? I'm not looking for fancy graphics like MS2020, as long as it has alright physics and handling, and a free roam mode, I'd love it
Any pc games you would recommend?
I finally understand all those moves
I'm addicted to this simulator and i really enjoy it.