Stellantis says new STLA platform enables EV's with over 435 mile range
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
- Stellantis says new STLA platform enables EV's with over 435 mile range
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All the adds on uk tv now are only for EVs 😊
How much will they cost? That is the crucial question.
I really do hope they do a great job on this new platform, and that they can keep their cars lighter than most of their competitors.
Stellantis is one of the few companies that sells relatively affordable B-Segment EVs in Europe; i.e. the Peugeot e-208, Vauxhall/Opel Corsa E, Fiat 500e etc. This is a segment that is very popular in Europe and very practical, but many other manufacturers (Tesla, Hyundai, Kia etc) have ignored up until now. I like the Peugeot e2008, I think it's a practical small-medium family hatchback crossever, but I'm put off by the relatively low range and non-EV platform, so I really hope they pull this off.
I see it exactly as you. Once the STLA platform is out they will finally concentrate on EV and won't have to compromise the architecture for gas powered cars' sake. The groupe has been doing incredibly good since Carlos took over. I hope they'll succeed.
Carlos Tavares ist the best CEO ever
With the amazing specs of the e3008, it likely won't take a long time before stellantis remakes their old EV's in the STLA platforms
You might not be a fan of Carlos Tavares but he has a long history of performance after he took PSA, turning OPEL around and merging FIAT CHRYSLER. Figures talk by themselves
He works for figures...
It's one thing to to manage a company that makes primarily gas car products, but EVs are very different, you can't pull miracles without significant knowledge of EV supply chains.
@@theproffessional9 Not exacly, EV's are simpler like it or not, then ICE's. And the CEO doesn't exacly need to fully understand all the complex supply chains, but financing and economy, when and how to cut costs, how to advertise, how to efficiently use money, etc. Furthermore, they are making a lot of JV's in all of the EV supply chain (mining companies, startups, other OEM's, battery companies, made their own battery unit, EV startups etc)
If considering their latest offering based on not optimized platform (new e-208 etc). Their efficiency is just excellent.
We’ll have a better idea in September with the e-3008 in September.
If this is true, this will be tremendous! Bravo Stellantis, just got to bring some compelling EV’s to market at a competitive price, begin manufacturing and ramp to scale. I really hope they can follow through on these claims.
Probably will take an hour to charge.
@@205rider8 New stellantis releases are almost all charging from 20 to 80% in less then 30 minutes
Finally we are talking the 400 miles “per tank” range every JEEP lover craves!!!!
Finally. I have an e-c4 and I can say that I am delighted with it even though it is not from the ev platform. So I hope this will be even better and more interesting. I think that Stelantis could develop great ev cars, but it seems that they are still standing on the sidelines and watching how everything will unfold. I hope they have observed enough and that this is the beginning of mass production of ev and the reduction of fossils in Stellantis :)
Stellantis hat großartige neue Produkt in der Pipeline, die neuen Plattformen, neue Batterietechnik.. etwas Geduld noch
Front wheel drive is more advantageous on smaller and or cheaper cars. Cheaper to make and better for packaging. Simpler rear suspension , no rear Motor gives more cargo space
This has been very true of ICE cars, where the space occupied by the engine/transaxle pair is triple or quadruple the volume of an electric motor and the single-speed transaxle. If the motor/transaxle pair is designed very low, plenty of storage space is available above it (in the back.) This allows the improved driving dynamics of RWD over FWD. Plus, you can still provide a "frunk" in the front end, which still adds up to more storage space than an ICE car in the same product niche.
@@netgnostic1627 "improved driving dynamics of RWD over FWD". Mercedes and BMW have made that argument for many decades. You might note that their small cars are now FWD because they eventually had to concede that their argument was bogus. FWD advantage for small cars in particular is partly due to weight distribution which isn't an issue with EVs as the major weight is mostly battery centered in car for either FWD or RWD.
@@anvilsvsNot bogus at all. Ever ridden in a BMW front wheel drive. The suspension had to be stiffened up & improvements in tyre technology, like using Michelin sports cup 4S tyres. This all comprises ride quality to get similar dynamics. Front wheel drive has an advantage in packaging, and on snow & ice. However there is a reason formula one race cars use rear wheel drive. That is to maintain the best compromise between traction & weight. A formula one car needs to be kept light to corner fast, to make the maximum benefit of downforce, while, giving the most traction during ecceleration, without compromising weight by adding 4 wheel drive. Simply rear wheel drive, in a well balanced car with a limited slip differential, will have better traction under ecceleration than a front wheel drive, all things being equal, like tyres, suspension & horsepower to weight ratio.
@@SunRise-ul7ko FWD makes Me want to throw up..............Paul
Where is the link for the front wheel drive versus rear wheel drive an electric cars from Hyundai
lol I will believe it when I see it
@6:13 “… or this is just marketing.” I heard it said the were 3 types of lying, now I think there are maybe four: lies, damn lies, statistics, and marketing.
Awesome. Let’s actually see it already. Not in 2030!
Whats peoples thoughts on ecorunnerxiii? A great achievement.
14 kWh per 62 miles is getting better coming to around 4.43 miles per kWh however that still doesn't surpass the 5+ miles per kWh you got and still get from the original Nissan Leaf in real world mixed city/highway driving. When are they finally going to make new EV's that are more energy efficient than those decade+ old designs from Nissan/Renault?
Many want more energy efficient EV's not more insane performance levels.
Yes, I really do hope that Stellantis pulls this off and does actually deliver the goods. They said previously that they were going to be learning from the other manufacturers mistakes by waiting a bit and not being on the bleeding edge so it will be nice to see the fruitage from doing that.
Best!
Wow, when is it going to be produce?
At 2025 for surely.
Hello mate
I believe it if i see it...
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Just my opinion from a colder region. Seatbelt heater is not comparable to a seat heater. Compare that in cold I mean below freezing temperatures and make your opinion after that. YMMV
Tavares is a bit erratic, but he does perform. As long as the BEV revolution continues and grows, and he aids it, he'll be an asset, rather than a problem.
I hope Stellantis has a better plan than this. At least they're trying to copy Tesla discreetly by naming it STLA instead of TSLA.
If rear wheel drive cars are so good, how come the VW ID.2all will be front wheel drive whereas the ID.3 and ID.4 are rear wheel drive?
Maybe front wheel drive is better for small cars.
Cramming a larger battery in?
Lots of quick cutaways and unneeded edits in the videos. Content is still really good, and rational. But why are so many things edited mid-sentence?
What? no more NACS news??
Sounds like vapourware to me. there working into the Trevor Milton territory if you know what I mean!
well they have been talking about the new platforms for years yet beside the range its kind of meh, not 800 volt on stla medium, average charging speeds.
In theory surely possible, so why not, benefit of the doubt. But they now need to show something ... Clearly, the game is on! Thus: consumers win. 😃
Maybe they just hired some of Toyota's PR people? But let's hope it's true.
😂😂😂😂😂😂couldn’t agree more lol
Almost any EV carmaker can reach this range. It is just a question of stuffing more and denser batteries in the pack. The real question is what is MPGe efficiency, what is the cost per kWH. If these metrics are poor, the carmaker will be challenged to generate profits.
Sounds like an attempt to shore up their share price. If they deliver, wonderful. If not, I doubt that they will survive. And price will be a factor. Of course.
TSLA platform?
Until tested by independents it’s just marketing and pipe dreams.
I think that the problem is not range, it is the change to electric EVs 🤔 the gas driven car is a whole culture. So it is to go into a whole new culture. When I was a young man I once drove an electric car, it looked like a sort of a telephone box that was on the run, and the range was about 50km, and ofcorse you had to think about the range - today the range is x10, and people speak about range - it is funny - 😅
374 miles on EPA cycle
It would be great if the 435 miles would be real. But I doubt it. The wheelbase is smack in line with a Model and Y this gets at max 330 miles EPA. Over 100 KWh more would be indicative of a technological step change, and sorry that is nothing I expect from Stellantis in the EV space
New comer became world market leader. All the boys from the old network can't make a proper EV and running behind the new comer. That's a sad story. Well it's utter most rediculous!
Won’t consider unless it has an lmfp battery.
hahahahaha Stellantis -- thanks for the morning laugh
Is it nuclear powered?
It is the old saying, I will believe all this when I actually see it in the flesh. I would prefer front wheel drive(FWD) or All Wheel Drive (AWD). I have FWD on my Monte Carlo and like it very much.
Like others say in their comments, Main question - How much do these vehicles cost??????
I don't care what features they have, if I can't afford the vehicles, they are no good to me.
Your Monte Carlo has a heavy engine on the front end stupid.........EV's do not..........Paul
But why do they use / mis-use all the space in front.?
EVs do not need a big "thing" in the front.
E-motors are placed between the wheels - and take a minimum of space.
-Giving room for a nice and practical "Frunk".
-This is a design - from the ICE age...
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Nice graphics from Stellantis... A bit like the 'King's New Clothes' fairy tale. Nothing to see here, move along! Thanks Sam
Glad you enjoyed it
STLA is that suposed to make people subconsiously think its TESLA like tech,build ? 😂
Subaru outback has 8.5 inches (216 mm) so that sounds like the same category. Gentle off road.
Tesla Model Y is 178 mm (7 inches)
STLA, TSLA? Say it with a hushed murmur in an echoey room, ULTIUM-UM-UM-UM-UM!
Will they be made in America.
Marketing blurb. 14 kWh per 100 km / 62 mi is definitely not the best. I see better than that, even in a U.K. Winter.
i dont agree with your assessment of Carlos...he is basically saying that without the charging infrastructure and government incentives it will hurt the middle class. hes not wrong in the short term...he basically thinks its unfair that governments around the world are putting the onus on the manufacturers instead of doing their part to facilitate the smoothest transition possible. in that regard he is spot on. sure he may not be as excited about the transition as you are but hes not a luddite. he knows the car industry has to adapt or die...he also has taken over a lot of struggling brands so it chafes more to have to conform to the transition more than brands that were already in a strong position. also high end brands in the portfolio WILL get 800v architecture...its the more mainstream brands that will make do with 400v
400+ mile range is almost a game changer. 500+ miles will be the game changer. That, and plentiful and super-fast charging and affordable pricing.
3:27 This means that the main people in charge at Stellantis are still people from the Marketing Department, and this is not good 🙂 Sleep well Stellantis...
FWD drive will kill this project before it starts. RWD is the only way forward for BEV’s if you want the best driving experience
Claims and talk are cheap. So we'll just have to wait and see whether this is all just blowing smoke. Sounds great. But they'd be doing this from nothing so to speak in terms of their achievements in relationship to any current electric vehicle so I'm skeptical.
Under the usual Stellantis BS there may be a grain of truth. Up to now all European Stellantis brands (Peugeot, Citroen, Fiat, Opel, Vauxhall..any more?)...have had battery supply from China. Last year their JV with Total and Mercedes led to the opening of their 8 GWH pilot plant at Nersac which is about 60 km south from where I live. On 30th May this year the first Gigafactory in France opened at Douvrin from that same joint venture. It will take a few years to ramp up but is supposed to be capable of 40 GWH a year..enough for a few million small mid sized EVs. So maybe the new platform will take those batteries and being built next door to the Citroen plant, they could work out a lot cheaper.
😂 ... We are ONLY interested in PRICE 😞...
Tsla platform? Lol
I don’t like Tavares comments but don’t under-estimate his achievements. It’s one of the most profitable car company in the world.
They were very late to electric party which might explain his comments.
He is a real cat guy and knows what he is doing.
RWD is more satisfying to drive but FWD recovers more energy from slowing down. The 'brake bias' on FWD cars is 70% to 80% whereas on RWD it is lower, typically 60%.
following in fords misplaced footsteps . maybe fiat will be smart an not completely kill the ram-charger line and make a NEW BRAND
I believe when I see it lmao
How many Evs does Stela makes now? Whats the range ? 😂 talk is cheap yes
Hmm... Talk is cheap.
Saying crazy whacky things doesn't mean a person is bipolar. Using bipolar as an insult isn't your best work. Good content otherwise.
RWD EVs are dangerous, but yes they are far easier and cheaper to make, less moving parts in the driving wheel system. They should be outlawed to protect innocent people, as should FSD, another killer system.