BREAKING: New Launch Date! SpaceX is about to launch Starship Flight 7!
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It's go time! SpaceX's Starship 33 gets its payload and rolls to the pad with a few surprising changes. Booster 14 finishes its prep work, what's left to do? Musk reveals new launch date, but could he be wrong? And there’s a surprising twist regarding the design of SpaceX's Block 2 boosters!
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How are you going to watch flight 7? Couch and Popcorn or live and shaking?
Not watching it. I wish SpaceX success but that's draining away fast as musks becoming a megalomaniac.
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getting to the point 11:35,
target launch date: Monday January 13th
Thank you. Kind sir
Thankyou kind sir
This comment wont survive the night
Thanks, I know why they drag it out but it gets frustrating sometimes
Thanks very much. I used to watch this channel regularly but there is too much filler and they drag out what people actually want to know until way late. These videos should be 1/2 the length they are.
I never would have thought that they will start producing Ship 40! that fast. It's truly amazing to hear the 815915283247897734345611269596115894272000000000th Starship is already on its way.
Excited for the Flight 7, it'll be interesting and hoping that everything goes as plan
For those people who don’t like the look of the new forward flap placement on the block 2 ships, I assume because of the asymmetry, they might have to brace themselves for the block 2 booster. Musk is on record as saying that the booster definitely doesn’t need 4 grid fins, 3 would be enough and it’s even possible they might be able to get away with only 2. (I think that info might be from one of the Tim Dodd videos.) If the block 2 booster ends up having 3 grid fins that will look a bit strange, at least to me, but the mass saving would be very nice to see and if they can get it down to only 2 then even better.
I doubt they'll get to 2 as you can only do single axis moves at a time (roll vs pitch), but with 3 you can still do multiple axis moves simultaneously. I can expect an attempt at 3 grid fins only, but it's possible that's tough as there can be a loss of control on one of the fins due to aerodynamics (the gridfins on the underside of a falling booster will experience different flow than the one on the leeward side of a falling booster). Anyway, I'm not a flight engineer, so that's just guesses.
@ I agree with everything you said although I’m not a flight engineer. I was just quoting (roughly - not a word-perfect quote) what Elon said to (I think) Tim Dodd. I also find it hard to imagine how they could get down to 2 fins and had the same thought as you regarding redundancy in case of a fin failure.
I guess we’ll find out at some point although even if they are planning to change the number of fins who knows if that will happen on block 2 or maybe be left until a later block. Given that they absolutely need block 2 to use pad B then if they get a few more successful block 1 booster catches on Pad A I can certainly see an “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” argument at least for block 2 so that they de-risk that transition and then get more adventurous with block 3.
Musk also mentioned at the same time that not only could it work with 3 grid fins but one might be reduced in size.
@ LOL. Even better for triggering some people’s OCD. Thanks for that added bit of info though. I hadn’t remembered that bit. Interesting.
It's not about looks when designing a rocket. But sometimes it is as with the JSF fighter competition where Boeing's entry was grossly ugly and was mentioned by the Airforce often.
Always love the show! Thanks for all the work you put in for these episodes. Have a great day!
Insensitive explosives are totally safe without the detonator installed. You could fire a blow torch at them they'd not go off.
It's probably due to them reusing a raptor engine, with some residue on it?
@kirowilber9121 I've no idea, but the risk levels from installing them isn't much higher than the general level of background risk in a large manufacturing site.
Was going to say. The bulk of the FTS should be perfectly safe to have installed even during final prep. Just design it so you can add the detonator just before lifting it onto the stack.
Still requires the signage but no real risk to the workers on site.
Even if there had been some explosive residue on the Raptor they are reusing, it would have been thoroughly cleaned before being inspected, repaired and installed.
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I watched the video for 10min before i gave up. I dont have 20min to waste to get the launch date. If you gave us the vital info up front I might have watched 20 min of excellent info
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@ton146 You are aware that SpaceX has a website dedicated to their space programs, aren't you?
@ton146 cheap tricks for views... I don't watch channels that are doing this kind of stuff it's like they dont treat their audience seriously...
Jan 13th
YES YES YES! Let's light this candle!
Great report Felix and team! I always enjoy your videos! Looking forward to Flight 7.😍
A stainless Falcon 9 is an interesting concept. Although SpaceX has not ever mentioned any interest in building a smaller booster using the same design philosophy as Starship and they have explicitly stated that Falcon 9 will not see any further development, I would still be interested to see what something on the scale of Falcon 9 would look like with the stainless steel construction and Raptor 3 engines.
the first stage of Stoke spaces nova rocket is basically a falcon 9 made out of stainless and that uses methane.
I think the most they will do is build something similar in scope to New Glenn, and that's only if New Glenn somehow makes some legitimate headway in the market.
@@blakenaftel3637
After 4 years of delay after delay New Glenn has already had 3 delays in their announced launch date this year. I'm not going to pay much attention until after their hypothetical 1st launch.
@@Scanner9631 I have some easy predictions there.
First, they will almost certainly succeed with everything they're testing in the first launch, including the landing. They are a traditional rocket company which means they take forever and spend too much but it also means they depend on things succeeding the first time, and nothing they're testing is new tech, by any stretch.
Second, this success will be misinterpreted by the public because it will be mistakenly contextualized against SpaceX's approach to rocketry, and journalism at large will feed into this misinterpretation and try to frame SpaceX's past and current successes as a kind of stumbling by comparison. In particular, New Glenn will be inexplicably propped up against Starship, despite the fact that there is a literal order of magnitude of difference between the two vehicles, by every possible measure.
Third, it will take a very long time for Blue Origin to line up a second flight. Such is the nature of traditional rocket design.
Great video! Thanks for the update!
It never fails to amaze me mass producing a rocket the size of building and twice the thrust of a saturn V is insane !
The next ~week should be epic with New Glenn's first launch and Flight 7.
If New Glenn launches. They have delayed it 3 times already this year not to mention the prior 4 years of delay after delay.
All I want is date and time!
SpaceX posted Monday, Jan, 13 at 4:00PM CST, but it is Elon Time and can change at any point.
Then use Google. ❤
My favorite line from the video:
“Finally Starship will carry a useful payload, dummy satellites.”😅
Damn, i would've loved to have a flight test on my birthday, but i guess that's not gonna happen, at least we'll have something to look forward to.
As always, great video Felix 👍🏻
Keep up the great work you do
Thanks for all your hard work Schlang Gang and crew.
Our pleasure!
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Yeahhhh I’m pretty sure the launch was pushed to the right due to the weather, it’s crazy in Texas right now
We all know how hard it is to load those Pez depensers. Good for them making it look easy.😊
If we don't see any glow from the flap hinges during re-entry, then I love the new look. And so will SpaceX.
Love the attention to detail here. The step-by-step breakdown of Ship 33’s changes highlights just how iterative innovation can be.
It's COLD outside. Perhaps that is why they might install the FTS indoors this time?
Nice to see you again, always happy to hear your voice. Thank you for helping me keep my dream alive
All the bays should be merged into one ultra massive Omni bay.
@@undertow2142 Stacked vertically.
While it would be cool this would never happen it would mean closing all the bays and would delay flights
Install flowers and it’s an Omni Botany Bay.
Pez candy seems so elegant and simple when you're popping one out, but loading them has always been a pain 😂
Literally.
With the fins, It reminds me of an orca jumping out of water, a picture I see a lot in Canada BC
Can't wait to see the coming legs and how their development will change over time. Also, the new shield I imagine SpaceX will revolutionize shielding technology.
Once they start routinely catching, they'll only need a certain number of boosters. Most of their production capacity from that point will be for ships.
The dowcommer may be thick for thermal reasons. Its not really a issue making it thicker. The oxygen is heavier than the methane anyway, so structurally, its a advantage.
Could it be vacuum insulated? This would make sense if missions require relighting engines using propellant from the main tanks.
It also makes sense for propellant transfers and depot storage.
@@imconsequetau5275 Well if the downcommer is so thick, there really is no insulation needed. Well there really is no insulation needed anyway
Regarding Booster production: While the goal for Starships may be one every few days Booster production will never reach that level for the simple fact that SpaceX will never need that many. Remember, their goal is rapid reusability of the Boosters so they won't need more than 3 or 4 for each launch/catch site. And 2 of those would be just for backup in case of unforeseen events. Maybe they'll keep extra inventory stored at the rocket garden to send out as needed but, still, they wouldn't need many of those, either.
Yoo finally, I've been waiting all day
I love the random sound bites and reaction Felix always does in his videos.
Pyrotechnics HAVE been known to "fire" during rollout.
When the Magellan Spacecraft to Venus was rolling out of the Payload Processing facility to the trip to the Shuttle pad, the engineers heard "popping" coming from the shipping container.
They rolled back into the PPF and found the Solar Array Pyros had fired and deployed the solar arrays.
Apparently, they did not know how to "terminate" the pyros wires properly for transport and a KSC pad radar had swept the shipping container.
This was enough RF energy coupled to the Pyro lines to trigger the NSIs (NASA standard Initiators).
They restowed the arrays, replaced the NSIs, TERMINATED the wires and shipped out the pad for launch.
looking forward to th moon starship version with legs
love the content! we'll be watching from australia!
Last night it was raining like hell all over south texas up until about 1am. I hope none of the heat shield tiles got damaged by pounding rain.
Rain erosion? Hard rain versus Hypersonic light rain, I wonder which is worst?
Pet the star base Gerbils 😂
Felix. When is the crew going to be on the starship?? Is that on the year or the ship number? Can't wait for that 7 launch
I'm sorry .... thought title said , " Breaking Lunch Date ."
Love your channel. 🎉
Do we know if they made any improvements to the comms on the tower?
17:28 Xzibit : I heard you like rockets so… 🚀
FELIX AND TEAM - Where can we view the launch with you guys please???
I’ll get the livestream ready tonight! Watch out for the notification and set a reminder! ❤
if i had to guess, the giant downcomer is probably to reduce cavitation in the fuel line/turbopumps. if i remember correctly, the saturn V had a similar design for its first stage
It's puzzling, but possibly related to lateral structural loads the new boosters will encounter with a more steeply tilted orientation during reentry. Every bit of increased lateral flight distance will reduce the required boost-back burn. It also pushes down the terminal velocity and landing burn duration. However, tilting also increases lateral loads in the long transfer pipe.
BTW, Saturn V evolved to have five down-comers, which is the opposite of consolidating into one. But the LOX tank was on top, with RP1 below. So the five pipes were relatively short and were affixed at both the top and bottom of the RP1 tank.
What if instead of a downcomer, it's a concentric tank?
Looks similar.. I've noticed ,not much people are talking bout it in the comments.
Large downcomer is probably a structural consideration. it gives them two tube to set the ship on top of.
It will be good to see a Starship flight that isn't just a boilerplate vehicle. I want to see a satellite analogue ejected from the payload bay.
And I am looking forward to future tanker Starships and maybe one with the Hungry, Hungry Hippo - You Only Live Twice - Blofeld-Spaceship cargo doors.
Proton rocket!
"You Only Live Twice - Blofeld-Spaceship cargo doors."
Wouldn't that be Neutron?
Thanks so much for this. It was super interesting and informative ❤
Felix your killing me when is the launch!
So exciting. The anticipation is building.
Besides factoring in the launch zone weather there is the ship landing zone weather to be considered 🤔
Dude you need to make small videos about launch date changes. Elon on a live stream let us know of the change like 2 days ago.
There’s more on this video than a launch date. For example the internal workings of the star factory. I can’t summarise the video content in the title, so I pick the one that is most interesting at first glance. ❤
I think it's fine, I didn't know and I learned it with this video. The video was fast enough to prevent me from making plans to watch the launch today
Well done Felix
Explosion hazard - a chemist friend used to point out that "A rocket is just a bomb with a hole at one end!" 😂
I wonder what number they will get to before they start installing crew quarters for starship.
I like What About It channel better than Great Space X and others.
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The larger downcomer also shifts the weight further aft. The booster spends the majority of its time in a vertical or near vertical orientation.
The center of mass needs to be higher up in order to improve the glide slope (and drag) during booster reentry. Otherwise the center of lift has to be lowered using strakes and such.
Part of the O2 is being shifted UP and the lighter Methane is being partly shifted DOWN moving the center of gravity UP. Might improve balance to adjust for the addition of the hot staging ring.
Question: is the olm gonna be able to support the v2 full stack with propellants??
@Itsk3njimonst3r Knowing spaceX they probably built it way overengineered after the test flight that broke the concrete. We've seen alot of reinforcements on it and the tower recent years.
Yeah, is the OLM at pad A going to be obsolete for V3? Will it need a massive overhaul?
A few kg per tile? Are they really that heavy? I believe to remember Felix holding one voicing surprise about their low weight
He has really strong hands.
Well, they are around the size of a large dinner plate and several times thicker, so that weight seems to make sense.
I mean, a kg isn't that heavy, you can likely hold a decent few pounds with your hand and not notice too badly. Like if it's even 5 pounds that'll be just over a couple pounds, and still feel lightweight
@@kirowilber9121 I think they only weigh 380 grams though. They’re a bit like fire-bricks. I’m guessing someone messed up the conversion and thought that was 3.8 kg rather than 0.38 kg.
They're way lighter, but the mounting system also weighs something, though the combined weight is still not a few kg per tile, probably an exaggeration for dramatic effect
Ignitors/detonators/detcord require placards as well. They could be testing different FTS designs
Considering that down comer. If you were considering using spent rockets
As either space stations or
Colony
Living quarters It might make sense to redesign your fuel tanks and other interior parts to serve those purposes in advance.
Nicely done, thanks.
Fantastic can’t wait for the launch🚀 ! Felix do you know how many Starlink satellites I currently in orbit? And do you have a size comparison for those satellites! I didn’t realise how big the version 3 Starlink satellites wwere untill I saw a photo of a guy standing next to the PEZ dispenser hole 😮 would be great to get a better idea of the size of the next gen equipment !
0:49 the green Tesla cybertruck !
Smokey Yunik would be proud of the giant downcomer. Somebody at SpaceX knows NASCAR history i.e. new rule limited gas tank capacity, Smokey swapped standard ⅝-inch fuel line for a 2-inch fuel line which held an extra ~5 gallons...
❤❤❤❤ Smokey Yunick would definitely approve.
I bet he would say that SpaceX Boca was the Best D@mned Garage in Town.
How are they going to stack block three and the launch tower?
I imagine the arms will grab hardpoints further down on the ship.
Where is a great place to buy rocket models like the one you have in the vids?
This isn't a downcommer. This is a tank inside the tank. This will allow the CG of the rocket to be brought lower during entry and also allow for a longer booster.
This will store the LOX and the outsidse ring will store the methane. This is very risky as there are a lot of thermal properties that occur.. They may double wall the internal tank.
I think long-term thermal contact between methane and LOX is a problem, so those long mission duration Starship down-comers will have a double-wall vacuum insulated pipe. Also all the methane pipes submerged in LOX.
Also, during reentry, it is desirable to raise the booster CG higher or lower the center of lift with strakes and such.
Why are the 2 fuel components one above the other? Why not side by side it one inside the other? The downcommer seems a less optimized solution.
I understand the pressure differences but one tank inside the other with spacers. Why isn't that possible?
Good job Felix!
That really is a HUGE downcomer, would love to see a stainless steel falcon 9. Stoke space would be jealous.
How about a stainless Falcon 20?
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what a time to be alive
7:05 not getting the real footage of it so just reversing different footage
Is it before the 1st flight of Blue Origin New Glenn?
the day after new glenn
The Downcomer could be more storage and strength. Doesn't necessarily need to be a pipe.
Vacuum insulated double walls?
Yesterday nrol 153 launched it was near me and when it was launching it was sou hard to see because of plane lights
Great episode as always, Felix! Looking at the new Block 2 downcomer, I wonder if it's possible that the hardware we have seen could be an outer layer of a vacuum jacket similar to ship's downcomers. What do you think? Would it make sense for the booster to reduce boil off? This would indicate that the actual downvomer would have a more reasonable diameter...
8:36. Offset flaps? Form follows function. Whatever works best looks best.
9:27 he starts talking about the new launch date
Does anybody know ,how the hotstaging ring is fixed on booster and starship - topic could be worth for a short animation to easily understand
"If you could add TPS reports to the payload that would be great."
8:46. Looks like Starship is being lifted inside of an enormous room. 😄. The illuminated cloud ceiling.
How many Pezas are needed for a crew of 3 to go to Mars, land and return?
yoo it's after the weekend? noice
What happens to the fuel used for a pressure test ?
Does it get returned to the tank farm or released into the atmosphere?
It’s recycled in the tank farm
Pressure tests are using liquid nitrogen, not propellants.
OK------------. From my calculations the diameter of the new Down Comer allows the Booster to Get rid of an entire Interstage Tank CAP or Dome between the LOX tank and Methane tank cutting the weight down by ten tons at least... Now the Lox tank runs the full Length of the Booster with the Down Comer being the WHOLE Methane Tank... This also cuts down the problem of sloshing liquids In both tanks during stage separation... -----. OOPS. Should have kept watching longer...----.
-----------. Can we look forward to the upper stage or Ship getting the same treatment??? Or does that create a problem with keeping the LOX cold enough over long periods of time...??? Though that problem could be alleviated with Heat tiles that doubled as Sollar Cells insulating the LOX tank when the sun hits them generating electricity with that side of the ship always turned to the sun, that would be able to Cool themselves during Entry through the Earth or Mars Atmosphere by passing electricity through them in the opposite direction... Sounds Wildly CRAZY but is just a thought...??? Or the Lox tank being a Large diameter down comer and the Methane tank being the outer tank with a short distance between tank walls forming a heat shield from the hot SUN...??? As I said just a Few Crazy out of the Box Thoughts...!!!
Watching this from the George Bush International Airport, on my way to Brownsville. Came from Argentina 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
Possibly to windy for Launch on Monday
FTS installed before rollout? Sounds like they are asking for trouble. I know it's unlikely, but imagine they drop it or it falls over. It's even more unlikely that this causes the charges to blow. Still I would want be next to it.
i think they probably have enough procedures in place that it won't just fall over 😂
The explosives used aren’t that ”trigger happy”. They explode in basically only one scenario, commanded abort. The FTS has survived: Launch, Reentry (Booster), Catch, Reentry (Ship) and Splashdown. They don’t just explode whenever.
Is tower 2 block 3 ready?
Atlas Centaur was the very first stainless steel rocket. General Dynamics Convair/Space Systems
Flying on the same day as the BOI filing deadline, nice 👍
Wheres the red tiles ?
Here is a thought on the new down-comer. Is it possible that the type 4 ship variant would require this to push the heavier loads of storage depot, larger flight loads, or even a block 5 ship with a greater length?😊
Flight thrust loads are carried by the high tank pressures, but dry weight is carried mostly by the hull until propellant fill begins.
Felix maybe u should try adding the subscription request earlier in the video😉