Atheism, Suicide and the Meaning of Life
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Don't miss this controversial look at the true meaning of life. Most of what I teach in this video comes from Dr. William Lane Craig in his book "On Guard: Defending Your Faith with Reason and Precision".
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Josh, this was such a meaningful gift and blessing! Thank you for all the time and hard work you put in to bring these truths to us. Love the Spirit in which you share things!
Thank you so much! You are very kind.
Studies show that if religiosity is experienced as a source of hope and confidence, it reduces the risk of depression in times of mounting stress, facilitates recovery and diminishes suicide risk.
Why do people insist that there be this objective meaning in life? Quit trying to shove a square peg in a round hole. As an atheist, I'm just happy to be alive because as far as we know living things are one of the rarest things in the universe. What a privilege it is then to be alive. Don't snuff something like that out.
The funny thing is that we you live life like that you won't be ready with stuff hit the fan, as a christian i used to life like that were I was just glad I was alive and did not care to find meaningful or so I thought, you'll try to find meaning in money,family or work I used to say if I work alot I wouldn't have time to think but it didn't work after some years, your always looking for meaning but are just distracted by the world's pleasures but some time people wake up to the reality at some point or they go to the grave asleep, either way the problem is still there, peace be with you 🙏
@@masterjose8483believing that death is not the end and that it is the beginning of some new life concerns me. just 2 months ago my youngest cousin chose to end his own life. nearly my entire family is christian and believe that he is now up in heaven. they believe that this somehow has a purpose, even if it isn't clear what that purpose is. i however do not see it this way. life does not need a purpose to be worth living nor does every hardship require some purpose be assigned. if you fall short of everything you hoped for... thats perfectly okay....keep trying... try to learn from mistakes. life is hard no doubt, but there is no greater purpose in some afterlife waiting for you. life here on earth is all we have, hold onto it tight
@@mr-jon how is it ok bro that means he died for nothing and if someone, and that also means that your world view there is not empathy for the dead or the livening for that matter, it like me saying i love my brother but if i could advance to the next stage in life by ending him ill do it and not feel a thing, the only thing stopping me is the law and if there were no laws ill do it, that's what you get an a empty atheistic worldview, you also have to answerer for people who suffer of depression of why is it not just a good idea to end your life if there are no (supposedly) consequences its not as easy as you think it to be, i use to think like that until i realized every one of the people i love are going to die one day and well i ever see them again, also there is a after life we will be jugged for the things we did and what we believed where true, just because you don't see it yet does not mean its not there. there are more proof for the afterlife then against it like NDEs also check out pre-birth experience because a lot of atheists always like to say how we don't remember anything of before we are born, get ready to make an account when you die you don't cease to exist you think we get off that easy.
@@mr-jon @mr-jon what concerns me more is how someone can believe death is the end
@@masterjose8483i'm not saying that him ending his life is okay. rather, i am saying that i worry that he felt his life wasn't fulfilling the purpose he felt he needed and therefore (terrifyingly) he may have chose to end it. accepting that life can be completely random and sometimes purposeless may actually help you cope with hardship and be able to keep going
7:24 That's like asking _"If the vacation will end why bother going"_
For most situation humans put MORE value on things that are finite and less value on things with almost unlimited amounts.
Yes, that is exactly correct. Most people can enjoy the vacation even though it will soon end, but there are a lot of people out there that cannot. Even things like basic hygiene seem futile to many people. (Especially out here in Europe 🤣) But this is not the larger point. The larger point has to do with "ultimate" meaning. Again, a lot of people can be happy knowing that their lives will have no "ultimate or eternal" meaning, but there are a lot of people who cannot be happy knowing this. That's why so many people want monuments of themselves or plaques bearing their names, or for their children to carry on their names. Eternity seems to be built into us. In Scottsdale Arizona there is a company called "Alcor Life Extension Foundation". They specialize in Cryonics which is freezing your body in liquid nitrogen for the day when science can revive you. It costs $200,000 do have this procedure done to your body after you die and there are already hundreds of bodies stored there with hundreds more on the list. Thanks for your comment! I appreciate your opinion. 😊
@@bible24 so your evidence for God is some people really want it to be true? A person can make the identical argument for Santa Claus.
@@username82765 Actually, I am not using this argument to prove that God exists. I am simply pointing out the fact that "if" God does not exist then life is "ultimately" meaningless.
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*How do you identify _"ultimate meang"_
*If you can identify _"ultimate"_ meaning. How do you determine it came from an intelligence or that an intelligence is required?
@@username82765 Great question. I would define it the same as Richard Dawkins - "There is at bottom no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pointless indifference." What Dawkins means by "at bottom" is - at the end, or ultimately, or finally. Scientists predict what they call "The Great Heat Death of the Universe. AKA the Big Chill or Big Freeze. It is the ultimate fate of the universe, which suggests that the universe would evolve to a state of no thermodynamic free energy and would therefore be unable to sustain processes that increase entropy. In other words, the "ultimate" end of all life. This is what I mean by "ultimate". I think that as long as there is someone alive to remember you or to be affected by your life and actions then your life meaning can carry on beyond your own temporal existence, but when there is no one left - your meaning ceases. On the other hand if eternal life exists then one can have ultimate or eternal meaning - without which, some people cannot live.
I don't think that objective means what you think that it means.
If god existed, then life ONLY has a subjective meaning -- that which god would ascribe it.
It would STILL also have whatever meaning that the person living that life to understand as well.
Would, for instance, god have the right to kill that person if god saw fit? Would that be different from the person taking their own life?
Thank you for your comment! I appreciate your opinion. 👍🏽 What I mean by "ultimate/objective meaning" is that meaning comes to us from an omniscient, omnipotent being, namely God. Since we are His creation our meaning comes from Him. Therefore, it doesn’t matter what we think or feel as subjects of that creation (subjectively), our meaning remains the same, no matter our opinions. But the larger point is that if God does not exist then all we are left with is subjective meaning which then leads to the fact that ultimately, at death, we, along with our meaning, are nothing.
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Oh, an omniscient and omnipotent god cannot be the source of anything at all. Thanks for clearing that up.
In fact, such a definition for a god is eminently self-refuting. Those two qualities cannot exist in the same being, not even conceptually.
In fact, such a definition renders humans more powerful than the god... Humans can, for instance, experience doubt, and forget things and form a pile of rocks that they (themselves) are unable to lift. I can honestly say that I don't know what the world will be like in 200 years (I mean, it'll probably still be round).
Those are all things that an omniscient / omnipotent god cannot do.
In fact, it gets worse. Such a god cannot be the source of the purpose to anything since such a god would have NO free-will. The god would know everything that would ever happen, including every choice the god COULD make -- and would be unable to NOT do would he knew he was GOING to do.
@@PhrontDoor Also omniscient is an unfalsifiable claim that even if there is a God/s they can't know if it's true. Because if you are unaware that "X" exists you can't know... that you don't know it.