I know this is an old review, but I bought this camera a couple of years ago as a travel and street camera, It is now my every day and all the time camera! The macro is brilliant for flowers and insects and the long zoom quite acceptable for bird trips too. As I am now getting on in years I cannot carry full-sized gear and lenses and used to use micro 4/3 before I got this amazing machine and now I hardly use them as I prefer the weight and size advantage of this little miracle!
Are you still using this camera? I generally use my iPhone 13 pro max and can get some amazing shots with that, but needed something more powerful for hiking and travel. However, I have ZERO desire to carry around a bulky mirrorless or DSLR camera (because I am a small person and just can't deal with the extra weight!) So I narrowed down my choices to the Panasonic ZS200. Waiting for it to arrive but very excited to hopefully be able to get some more distant shots.
@@davidharle8794 Do you have sample of photos somewhere. I'm looking for something similar but this camera is so old now, and there isn't anything much newer. Reviews always from amazing to not great.
At 71, I've decided to leave my Nikon D800 at home on long trips and get a compact camera. Three big requirements, shooting in RAW, a viewfinder and a good zoom lens. I was going to get a Nikon A1000, but they are backordered and they cannot give me a ship date. I've never owned a Panasonic, but feel this one ticks most of the boxes I will need. Thanks.
Going to buy this camera for my birthday. I am upgrading from the Sony WX500 (which unfortunately broke a couple years ago). Can’t wait to get the camera, the size looks perfect for hiking and city shots!
I have the ZS 100 and love it. I have used it for travel and family events. I don't believe I would upgrade to the ZS 200 for the extended zoom. I also love it for selfies it takes a bit of practice and trial and error for centering but once learned I have some very nice results. I really appreciate the smaller high quality formats for travel.
Been using my RX100 V for ages, but having 4K video overheat after a few minutes is AWFUL. These Lumix cameras are still relevant because lugging even a mirrorless with 18-200 interrupts travel.
I bought the TZ100 last year because of your baby review and still love it as a travel camera, took it to italy and switzerland and got some very useable shots. I don’t think the 200 is really worth the upgrade but thanks for covering it and freezing anyway.
Bhodisatvas how’s the video exposure? On that older ZS100’s review the point was made they couldn’t stop down and had no ND filter do videos were too bright?
@@rjkral Have a ZS200. There's A, S, and full M controls for video, plus MF, exposure comp., etc. You're also able to manually customize the tone curve, although not to the extent of log. I think they were only talking about 1080p120 as far as being unable to stop down.
So happy you did this video. I really love these high end point and shot cameras so much. I'm glad to see that they are catching on as mini DSLR's. Can't wait to see what the next big ones from Canon, Sony, and Nikon are. The pictures you take on this look like something I'd see in a magazine. Really good work man. Please Canon G5X Mark II and Sony RX100 6.
Lankey Bastard yeah Im a swede so english is not my first city (lol). I also was quite a bit drunk. But I stand corrected. Do you feel good about yourself now?
Whoa whoa, take it easy there, just a friendly jab. Your English is surly better than my Swedish. Do I feel better about myself? No, I wouldn't take joy in correcting someone. Something so meaningless and insignificant would provide me no pleasure. I'm sorry if your feelings got hurt by my comment, I can assure you that was the least of my intentions. However, by the vitriolic tone of your response I can tell you took it personally. Listen, Bob, you might want to grow thicker skin. Just saying. Or bete dig som en man? eh?
It's so good to have a "second" camera that you can keep on you at all times. Cellphones just don't cut it, and nobody is going to take their DSLR with them to dinner with the wife or friends. But with a little pocket camera that is about wallet sized you always have options to get a good picture that would have been completely missed before.
Well done for a review that is actually about the product, not the people presenting. It's a great little camera. Just a shame about the in cropping in video and the less than great video stabilisation.
we're at a point where phones became so good that short focal lens dedicated cameras became useless. The only real advantage of dedicated cameras is zoom. This camera is so tempting.
That’s what I think why the zoom cameras are getting more attentions now, since we can use phone camera for closer photos, but can’t use the phone for long range zoom photos!
The delayed start is pretty common, btw. Clean and tighten the battery cable ends and check for corrosion that extends into the insulation of the cables. It is also likely that there is corrosion on the cable contacts at the starter itself. If the corrosion extends into the insulation, just replace the cable. If you're not comfortable doing that yourself, I strongly recommend having a dealership do the job rather than an aftermarket shop. You do not want to have to deal with the same stupid problem half a dozen times before they finally get all the bad bits replaced.
Thanks for the video, which helped me decide to buy this camera! The problem with calling this a point-and-shoot is that only works if one is happy with the default settings. I know just enough about photography to realize what I don't know about this camera, so for me it's a "try to read the manual, give up, try to understand the menu options without it, buy a book, send it back, play around with the camera some more, order another book...."-camera. I am sure that it's a wonderful tool that can do everything I would want (yep, largest aperture is a bit small - but I used to work with 200 ISO film... And I hardly ever used to work with smaller apertures than f 8 anyway, and normally am not all that bothered about dof) - but I don't yet know how to use it.
Most people who buy travel cameras WANT the background in the shot, so I don't see a lack of a shallow depth of field as a big issue. As you yourself showed in this video, you can get around that by using a longer focal length with a close focus point .
And, after shooting with the Leica C-lux, the image quality is excellent. Leica lenses always provide quality. Battery life is EXCELENT! I love the optical viewfinder. I am nearsighted and I can adjust the viewfinder perfectly to my eyesight. And as you say, it is a tool of convenience, But a VERY HIGH QUALITY convenince! I have this one and a Ricoh GRii in my belt. COvers most everything with excellent quality.
Hello Chris Nichols thank you for sharing the Panasonic what a great camera beautiful pictures and you are awesome thank you for sharing happy holidays
2022, hey, if people want a travel zoom, people want a travel zoom. AND, they don't want an RX100 die while shooting 4k after 3 minutes. Long zooms are so much fun for travel and combined with 4k, it makes for fun travel videos. In 2022, does this zs100/zs200 still cut it?
First class review, as always. I also bought the ZS100 shortly after that review was produced and have been very happy with the camera, to the extent that my Sony Nex6 has gathered a lot of dust. The compact size makes the ZS100 just too convenient and the differences in capabilities are insignificant for most of my uses. I haven't seen any mention of how rugged the ZS100 is. Mine takes a beating - carried weekly on a quad on some pretty aggressive trail rides, and so far so good. The biggest concern is that it is going to suck dust onto the sensor when the lens extends and retracts. Can't say enough good things about the 4K pre-burst mode. Around little children, this is the best feature invented for cameras since the advent of digital photography.
I have the ZS100 and I don't think it's worth upgrading to the Z200 simply because of the lens, the ZS100 is a faster lens at wide @ F2.8 vs ZS200's F3.3. Moreover, the ZS100 in continuous shooting is 50fps vs the 10fps on the ZS200. Also, since there's no hotshoe on both cameras, the built-in flash coverage of the ZS100 is better @ 8m vs ZS200's 6.8m. The ZS100 is also ligther and a bit less expensive. :)
The ZS100 is slightly faster than the ZS200 at 24mm, but the graph in DPR's First Impressions Review shows that it's basically the *same f-stop from 90-200mm as the ZS100.* www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-zs200-tz200
Would be nice to see a comparison with the Zs80. Nearly all reviewers ignore that at 720mm, the Zs80 has nearly exactly the same active sensor size as the Zs200. At 720mm, the Zs200 captures nearly exactly the same amount of light from an object as the lens has nearly identical specs: 129mm f/6.4 vs 132mm f/6.4. Many reviewers don't seem to understand what sensor size actually means and that the sensor area gets smaller, when you use digital zoom. Or explained differently: The amount of light per time per angle doesn't depend on the sensor size at all, it only depends on focal length/f-number. When the focal length and f-number are the same, a larger sensor will capture more light per time because it captures a larger field of view, but it won't capture more light per time per angle.
Thanks for a great review! When I travel I leave the dSLR kit at home and carry my RX100iv for it's 1in sensor and great glass and a ZS40 for it's long zoom. Sadly the ZS40 is on it's last leg so this new ZS200 looks like an awesome replacement, with the bonus of a 1in sensor. I may have to order one before my next trip.
I'm so split between the ZS100 and the LX10. The 10x zoom range sounds great, but I'm curious how much the low-light problems can affect shooting... Viewfinder is great though compared to the LX10.
The crux of the question is coverage: What all can you shoot? You get a really nice 800 ISO, and a very long zoom in a compact form factor. The trade-off is loss of decent aperture, so you end up with an outdoor camera, which befits the Travel Zoom category. No such thing as a be-all end-all right? You end up with the same need: two cameras, the other one trades the zoom out in order to get nice apertures. It always costs a good chunk of change. As a "B" camera I need the apertures for indoor light and otherwise I am very happy with the next strap. So, "No". This camera only works as an "A"-ish camera in the significant upgrade away from the phone segment. Though it really is a be-all pretender, not bad at all, the ZS200 does not help me achieve coverage.
I really love this review and like the way of changed the review by switching to the camera Options to be very clear especially after @10:28 😜👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 excellent job
You mention near the end that the ZS100 does not do 120fps 1080p slow motion... but it does! I have a ZS100 and have done 120fps 1080p many times. The big problem with 120fps on the ZS100 is that there is no stabilization -- none. Gotta use a tripod or a gimbal for 120fps shots. Nice review! However, I will keep my ZS100 for the time being. If Panasonic makes a newer version with a flip screen and/or mic jack, I might get interested. A better lens would be nice, too.
I'd love to see more comparison side-by-side photos of regular vs the max zoom images for quality and definition. The zoom lens is the primary reason I purchase 35mm point-and-shoots so I can capture images of animals from far away.
Thanks for this video. Panasonic has a interesting lineup or line of camera products. The menu system, 4K, Post Focus/Focus Stacking, Panasonic Touchscreen are excellent. Bridge: Hope #Panasonic #Lumix will update the FZ2000/FZ2500/FZH1. Advanced Compact 1" sensor size: All-in-on-Body - Would be very interesting if Panasonic could combine all the good features of Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200, Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX10 in one body and add : * Articulated TouchScreen ( Tilting or fully articulated). I think Vloggers love fully articulated. (LX10 = Yes - EVF, ZS200 = No) * EVF (LX10 = No - ZS200 = Yes) * Hotshoe ( (LX10 = No - ZS200 = No) * Mic jack (LX10 = No - ZS200 = No) * Headphones jack (LX10 = No - ZS200 = No) * Flash (LX10 = Yes - EVF, ZS200 = Yes) * Focal Length : 20mm to XXmm (FF Equivalent) - Smarphones still cannot beat digital cameras with their optics. I think the 1" sensor, compact offering opportunities to do live feed, the new Shoot+Edit_in_camera+Share (apps getting better) are a good way to put a technology gap between smartphones and digital compact cameras. The All-In-One-Body is a key. Thanks.
I think it's best to get an interchangeable lens camera as the main camera, but then instead of spending a crazy amount on super-telephoto lenses for travel (I'm not talking about pro sports shoots), just get a super-telephoto zoom camera such as this one. So you have the ILC for close and medium length and high quality, and you have something like this to really get the zoom you want without the weight and with still some money in your bank account.
Just put an order in for this camera. Buying it used from well-known retailer. I'm exactly the target market- looking for an extended zoom for fast travel that will be just a pocket away (for wildlife), while my DSLR stays in the pack (for other subjects). Nailing focus on the fly is key. I've been disappointed with the Sony RX10 III on that score.
Fiero is a Pontiac car, Chris. And also, I absolutely adored the video. As a Panasonic user myself, I cringe at the SOOC still coming out of these cameras. I really wished Panasonic stole some of the Fuji guys and worked on the colors of their JPGs (and RAWs). Even Olympus has a great gamut, why can't Panasonic get over that cold, flat VHS era coloring?
there is a third party filter thread one can mount on those cameras. I saw it in a video about LX15 and ND filter, it should fit right there on the ZS200 too.
Thanks for this review. I'm looking at getting a compact camera to replace my fading Olympus D700. I don't think this is the one, but I'm keeping my options open.
This camera is all about the zoom and great video, higher EVF dots, better auto focus....sacrifices a wider Aperture. Great background music midway through.....#Wesdevine
I'm torn between this and the Canon GX7 MKII. Would be cool to see a shoot out, but couldn't find one. Any thoughts on how they compare? I prefer the Canon's form factor, operation etc. but the zs200 seems better on paper. Love your vids!
Hello Chris, Panasonic ZS200 vs ZS100: what do you think...which ist better in picture quality (stills)? I know: 200 do have better viewfinder, more zoom, new Features and so on.Thats not so important for me, but wich one ist really a little bit better in picture Quality? Thanks for answering a fan of the camera store tv from Gemany - althoug ist perhaps a boring question for you, I know.PS: Your videos are humorous ans serriously, you tell Pros & Cons and make not only a very good job - it´s a real help for buying and I love it, really. Christoph
SO, having DSLRs, and traveling a lot, I can have these cameras in two of my vest pockets, The Ricoh GRii and the Leica c-lux, and cover all my needs! Not having to carry my DSLRs and lenses.
Does video from this camera transfer easily to the most recent Apple OS - Catalina? Photos usually work, but video is always a problem for me when purchasing new cameras and this is one I'm seriously looking at. Thanks! Terrific video.
Great video but the Fiero was made by Pontiac, not Ford. I always wanted one but I am very happy with my Trans Am. Also, that "90's era muscle car" looked like they tried to picture a 60's style Mustang.
I’ll stick with my RX100. The lack of a flip screen is a dealbreaker. The soft lens too. Could’ve been the perfect small camera. Thought Sony would have a competitor by now.
Thanks man. I had this in my Amazon cart, but it's coming out. It's 2021 and still no big zoom 1" sensor compact cameras out there. I'm stuck with Sony's 24-200 I guess.
So confusing- What are you shooting with and when. Was the walking backward across the bridge just editorial or was it taken by the zs200. You guys should preface the production camera from the review model. We may be liking either. Mic or on camera sample, etc. Too much doubts.
How do you thing this camera will perform when mounted to a bicycle's handlebar, to be used as am actioncam? I'm trying to delay buying the Sony RX0. The ZS200 has a 1" sensor and can be purchased for just over $400 Used.
Good video. Looking for a small compact camera to have on vacations only to substitute my Huawei Mate 10 Pro. Do you think the ZS 60 would still be a great camera to have in 2018? This is too much money for me. Would like to stay around $300 and still have above average camera quality and zoom. Thanks
Actually the ZS200 has a 24fps output not capture. It only has a single frequency sensor (NTSC) as opposed to the GH5 with dual (NTSC/PAL). However just like the GH5 it doesn't capture in 24fps, instead it interpolates the 24fps from a 30fps sensor capture. It's even more noticeable on Sony cameras when a reboot is required from 25fps to 30fps but not 30fps to 24fps. If you pause the video above when there is some fast motion you can see some frames that are two combined frames with objects in different positions at the same time.
Very late to the party. Recently got a TZ91 in VGC for £160. 20MP with the smaller 1/2.3 sensor but it has a flip screen. 4K video. Nice, solid, heavy body. Not sure what else you need for a compact camera. Keep the ISO down and/or AI denoise in Lightroom and you have a great pocket/street/travel camera.
Great review! Is the Sony RX100 mark 7 worth the premium price difference considering the performance? In Croatia, the mark 7 Sony is double the price of the Panasonic and since I'm an amateur photographer and use everything in Auto 90% of the time, would the Panasonic be ok for my needs?
I thought there might be some out-takes from the sequence of Chris walking backwards over the bridge. Don't tell me you didn't have to have several goes at that one. Nice review.
My copy of the ZS100 had an extremely soft lens, and it was a known issue. Hopefully they fixed it in this version. Either way, the slow lens is really disappointing. They really should have kept it at f2.8
At the moment ZS200 is about $800 on B&H and ZS100 is about $550. From what I saw in your reviews (this one and 2016 one) does it make sense to buy the newer model at that price? I'm leaning towards "no, it doesn't", but what do you think?
Reminds me of the old Pentax Espio 200 film camera. Interesting idea but the working aperture is tiny. I'm surprised anyone still makes cameras like this.
I can understand compact. I've got a few cameras now, but the one I tend to take with me when I leave the house is my Fuji X20. I kind of wish it had the electronic viewfinder of the X30, but oh well. The lens is fabulous, and the camera's small.
Do you happen to have any idea why my display screen may not work? I can see the backlight turn on when I turn the camera on but there is no picture or anything on the display screen. It just stays black. Or where you might recommend to get it fixed?
It's so hard choosing a camera, hours of youtube videos and i still cant make up my mind. Please help me decide. I live in Haiti so I'm surrounding by water and mountains, i love to go snorkeling so whatever camera i choose must have a water proof housing for it. So I've narrowed the choices down to a few camera. The panasonic lx10, zs200, and sony rx100v. Price is not really an issue because i find them on ebay preowned around the same prices. I would just like your opinion on what camera you think is best for underwater and traveling.
I know this is an old review, but I bought this camera a couple of years ago as a travel and street camera, It is now my every day and all the time camera! The macro is brilliant for flowers and insects and the long zoom quite acceptable for bird trips too. As I am now getting on in years I cannot carry full-sized gear and lenses and used to use micro 4/3 before I got this amazing machine and now I hardly use them as I prefer the weight and size advantage of this little miracle!
Are you still using this camera? I generally use my iPhone 13 pro max and can get some amazing shots with that, but needed something more powerful for hiking and travel. However, I have ZERO desire to carry around a bulky mirrorless or DSLR camera (because I am a small person and just can't deal with the extra weight!) So I narrowed down my choices to the Panasonic ZS200. Waiting for it to arrive but very excited to hopefully be able to get some more distant shots.
@@andricheli I still have and use my wonderful TZ 200. You will love it and be amazed at what it can do!
@@davidharle8794 Do you have sample of photos somewhere. I'm looking for something similar but this camera is so old now, and there isn't anything much newer. Reviews always from amazing to not great.
At 71, I've decided to leave my Nikon D800 at home on long trips and get a compact camera. Three big requirements, shooting in RAW, a viewfinder and a good zoom lens. I was going to get a Nikon A1000, but they are backordered and they cannot give me a ship date. I've never owned a Panasonic, but feel this one ticks most of the boxes I will need. Thanks.
@@pellier08 Terrible camera, focus is a big issue.
I am not interested in 85% cameras they review, but I just love the way they do it...Best camera reviews on youtube by far. Great job as always
I couldn’t be less interested in this camera, but I’ll watch every video you guys put out. 👍🏼
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Going to buy this camera for my birthday. I am upgrading from the Sony WX500 (which unfortunately broke a couple years ago). Can’t wait to get the camera, the size looks perfect for hiking and city shots!
Good stuff. Super zoom compacts is where most manufacturers don't really embrace. Panasonic has always had great line ups.
I have the ZS 100 and love it. I have used it for travel and family events. I don't believe I would upgrade to the ZS 200 for the extended zoom. I also love it for selfies it takes a bit of practice and trial and error for centering but once learned I have some very nice results. I really appreciate the smaller high quality formats for travel.
Been using my RX100 V for ages, but having 4K video overheat after a few minutes is AWFUL. These Lumix cameras are still relevant because lugging even a mirrorless with 18-200 interrupts travel.
I bought the TZ100 last year because of your baby review and still love it as a travel camera, took it to italy and switzerland and got some very useable shots. I don’t think the 200 is really worth the upgrade but thanks for covering it and freezing anyway.
I find strange how some people want to upgrade to the next model in same series. I find that seldom worth.
Bhodisatvas how’s the video exposure? On that older ZS100’s review the point was made they couldn’t stop down and had no ND filter do videos were too bright?
@@rjkral Have a ZS200. There's A, S, and full M controls for video, plus MF, exposure comp., etc. You're also able to manually customize the tone curve, although not to the extent of log. I think they were only talking about 1080p120 as far as being unable to stop down.
So happy you did this video. I really love these high end point and shot cameras so much. I'm glad to see that they are catching on as mini DSLR's. Can't wait to see what the next big ones from Canon, Sony, and Nikon are. The pictures you take on this look like something I'd see in a magazine. Really good work man. Please Canon G5X Mark II and Sony RX100 6.
Im not interested in that particular camera. But Chris and Jordan is so good at making reviews that I must watch :D
Robert Larsson Lol, same here!
Are. They are good.
You is not good at comments.
Lankey Bastard yeah Im a swede so english is not my first city (lol). I also was quite a bit drunk. But I stand corrected. Do you feel good about yourself now?
Whoa whoa, take it easy there, just a friendly jab.
Your English is surly better than my Swedish.
Do I feel better about myself? No, I wouldn't take joy in correcting someone.
Something so meaningless and insignificant would provide me no pleasure.
I'm sorry if your feelings got hurt by my comment, I can assure you that was the least of my intentions.
However, by the vitriolic tone of your response I can tell you took it personally.
Listen, Bob, you might want to grow thicker skin. Just saying.
Or bete dig som en man? eh?
LOL, I really like your effort looking up swedish and all. And sorry if I sounded like a little b*tch. Have a nice day =)
Thank you for always doing these types of in-depth camera and gear analyses. I'm looking forward to getting this camera soon.
It's so good to have a "second" camera that you can keep on you at all times. Cellphones just don't cut it, and nobody is going to take their DSLR with them to dinner with the wife or friends.
But with a little pocket camera that is about wallet sized you always have options to get a good picture that would have been completely missed before.
I carry my 5dm3 everywhere...
Clearly you never try google pixel 2 and in this late october is gonna be a pixel 3, that camera is almost makes us no need for pocket cam
@@dzevadbayraktar322 now there are phones with 10x zoom! XD
I do have a TZ200, but am starting to lose reasons why heh
Well done for a review that is actually about the product, not the people presenting. It's a great little camera. Just a shame about the in cropping in video and the less than great video stabilisation.
Hey man you're pretty fit to be talking about that technical info while walking backwards and not gassing out. Congrats, happy New Year.
we're at a point where phones became so good that short focal lens dedicated cameras became useless. The only real advantage of dedicated cameras is zoom. This camera is so tempting.
@blacknester My Mi 10 Pro had pretty impressive RAW. Would you like to see ?
That’s what I think why the zoom cameras are getting more attentions now, since we can use phone camera for closer photos, but can’t use the phone for long range zoom photos!
The delayed start is pretty common, btw. Clean and tighten the battery cable ends and check for corrosion that extends into the insulation of the cables. It is also likely that there is corrosion on the cable contacts at the starter itself. If the corrosion extends into the insulation, just replace the cable. If you're not comfortable doing that yourself, I strongly recommend having a dealership do the job rather than an aftermarket shop. You do not want to have to deal with the same stupid problem half a dozen times before they finally get all the bad bits replaced.
Best looking video from this channel I must say.
Yes Chris, it happens to all of us.
Yeah, it happens to all of us. And sometimes I leave the camera on self-timer, too.
Thanks for the video, which helped me decide to buy this camera!
The problem with calling this a point-and-shoot is that only works if one is happy with the default settings. I know just enough about photography to realize what I don't know about this camera, so for me it's a "try to read the manual, give up, try to understand the menu options without it, buy a book, send it back, play around with the camera some more, order another book...."-camera. I am sure that it's a wonderful tool that can do everything I would want (yep, largest aperture is a bit small - but I used to work with 200 ISO film... And I hardly ever used to work with smaller apertures than f 8 anyway, and normally am not all that bothered about dof) - but I don't yet know how to use it.
Most people who buy travel cameras WANT the background in the shot, so I don't see a lack of a shallow depth of field as a big issue. As you yourself showed in this video, you can get around that by using a longer focal length with a close focus point .
You have the better reviews always !!! thanks you very much. Nicolas from Argentina
And, after shooting with the Leica C-lux, the image quality is excellent. Leica lenses always provide quality. Battery life is EXCELENT! I love the optical viewfinder. I am nearsighted and I can adjust the viewfinder perfectly to my eyesight. And as you say, it is a tool of convenience, But a VERY HIGH QUALITY convenince! I have this one and a Ricoh GRii in my belt. COvers most everything with excellent quality.
Hello Chris Nichols thank you for sharing the Panasonic what a great camera beautiful pictures and you are awesome thank you for sharing happy holidays
Calgary sure looks good in winter, better than Edmonton. Good video.
Thank man, that is exactly the type of camera I need for my vacation trips.
2022, hey, if people want a travel zoom, people want a travel zoom. AND, they don't want an RX100 die while shooting 4k after 3 minutes. Long zooms are so much fun for travel and combined with 4k, it makes for fun travel videos. In 2022, does this zs100/zs200 still cut it?
First class review, as always. I also bought the ZS100 shortly after that review was produced and have been very happy with the camera, to the extent that my Sony Nex6 has gathered a lot of dust. The compact size makes the ZS100 just too convenient and the differences in capabilities are insignificant for most of my uses.
I haven't seen any mention of how rugged the ZS100 is. Mine takes a beating - carried weekly on a quad on some pretty aggressive trail rides, and so far so good. The biggest concern is that it is going to suck dust onto the sensor when the lens extends and retracts.
Can't say enough good things about the 4K pre-burst mode. Around little children, this is the best feature invented for cameras since the advent of digital photography.
I have the ZS100 and I don't think it's worth upgrading to the Z200 simply because of the lens, the ZS100 is a faster lens at wide @ F2.8 vs ZS200's F3.3. Moreover, the ZS100 in continuous shooting is 50fps vs the 10fps on the ZS200. Also, since there's no hotshoe on both cameras, the built-in flash coverage of the ZS100 is better @ 8m vs ZS200's 6.8m. The ZS100 is also ligther and a bit less expensive. :)
icyblue Thanks for the comparison. I just bought a ZS100 a few months ago. Great to know it was not a bad investment.
The ZS100 is slightly faster than the ZS200 at 24mm, but the graph in DPR's First Impressions Review shows that it's basically the *same f-stop from 90-200mm as the ZS100.* www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-zs200-tz200
What about video?... Can we get 120fps on 1080p in any of these cameras
Would be nice to see a comparison with the Zs80. Nearly all reviewers ignore that at 720mm, the Zs80 has nearly exactly the same active sensor size as the Zs200. At 720mm, the Zs200 captures nearly exactly the same amount of light from an object as the lens has nearly identical specs: 129mm f/6.4 vs 132mm f/6.4. Many reviewers don't seem to understand what sensor size actually means and that the sensor area gets smaller, when you use digital zoom. Or explained differently: The amount of light per time per angle doesn't depend on the sensor size at all, it only depends on focal length/f-number. When the focal length and f-number are the same, a larger sensor will capture more light per time because it captures a larger field of view, but it won't capture more light per time per angle.
yeah, but a larger sensor is much cleaner. less noise
Pontiac Fiero. I think this is a good camera for traveling when you just want something with more range than a phone.
I always wanted a Pontiac Fiero. Those were cute cars. I love my Trans Am though. RIP Pontiac.
thank you. Ford Fiesta
Thanks for a great review! When I travel I leave the dSLR kit at home and carry my RX100iv for it's 1in sensor and great glass and a ZS40 for it's long zoom. Sadly the ZS40 is on it's last leg so this new ZS200 looks like an awesome replacement, with the bonus of a 1in sensor. I may have to order one before my next trip.
I'm so split between the ZS100 and the LX10. The 10x zoom range sounds great, but I'm curious how much the low-light problems can affect shooting... Viewfinder is great though compared to the LX10.
What did you get? I'm in the same boat
The crux of the question is coverage: What all can you shoot? You get a really nice 800 ISO, and a very long zoom in a compact form factor. The trade-off is loss of decent aperture, so you end up with an outdoor camera, which befits the Travel Zoom category. No such thing as a be-all end-all right? You end up with the same need: two cameras, the other one trades the zoom out in order to get nice apertures. It always costs a good chunk of change. As a "B" camera I need the apertures for indoor light and otherwise I am very happy with the next strap. So, "No". This camera only works as an "A"-ish camera in the significant upgrade away from the phone segment. Though it really is a be-all pretender, not bad at all, the ZS200 does not help me achieve coverage.
I really love this review and like the way of changed the review by switching to the camera Options to be very clear especially after @10:28 😜👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 excellent job
You mention near the end that the ZS100 does not do 120fps 1080p slow motion... but it does! I have a ZS100 and have done 120fps 1080p many times. The big problem with 120fps on the ZS100 is that there is no stabilization -- none. Gotta use a tripod or a gimbal for 120fps shots.
Nice review! However, I will keep my ZS100 for the time being. If Panasonic makes a newer version with a flip screen and/or mic jack, I might get interested. A better lens would be nice, too.
Between this camera and sony rx 100 vii , which one you will choose?
Thanks for the review. 👍
I'd love to see more comparison side-by-side photos of regular vs the max zoom images for quality and definition. The zoom lens is the primary reason I purchase 35mm point-and-shoots so I can capture images of animals from far away.
Atlast! A review from TCSTV
We posted the Canon M50 episode less than a week ago!
I mean a review for the TZ200 from TCSTV :D
Thanks for the review, helped me decide on a purchase!
Thanks for this video.
Panasonic has a interesting lineup or line of camera products.
The menu system, 4K, Post Focus/Focus Stacking, Panasonic Touchscreen are excellent.
Bridge: Hope #Panasonic #Lumix will update the FZ2000/FZ2500/FZH1.
Advanced Compact 1" sensor size: All-in-on-Body
- Would be very interesting if Panasonic could combine all the good features of Panasonic Lumix DC-ZS200, Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX10 in one body and add :
* Articulated TouchScreen ( Tilting or fully articulated). I think Vloggers love fully articulated. (LX10 = Yes - EVF, ZS200 = No)
* EVF (LX10 = No - ZS200 = Yes)
* Hotshoe ( (LX10 = No - ZS200 = No)
* Mic jack (LX10 = No - ZS200 = No)
* Headphones jack (LX10 = No - ZS200 = No)
* Flash (LX10 = Yes - EVF, ZS200 = Yes)
* Focal Length : 20mm to XXmm (FF Equivalent)
- Smarphones still cannot beat digital cameras with their optics.
I think the 1" sensor, compact offering opportunities to do live feed, the new Shoot+Edit_in_camera+Share (apps getting better) are a good way to put a technology gap between smartphones and digital compact cameras.
The All-In-One-Body is a key.
Thanks.
Tony's car is 2.5 times as good. 😎😎😎
Roughly...
Mike Whiles but Chris’s has more character :)
I haven't bought a digital camera in about 4 years lol. The last one i got was Canon PowerShot S120
That's a good little camera too.
That is a good camera.
I think it's best to get an interchangeable lens camera as the main camera, but then instead of spending a crazy amount on super-telephoto lenses for travel (I'm not talking about pro sports shoots), just get a super-telephoto zoom camera such as this one. So you have the ILC for close and medium length and high quality, and you have something like this to really get the zoom you want without the weight and with still some money in your bank account.
Just put an order in for this camera. Buying it used from well-known retailer. I'm exactly the target market- looking for an extended zoom for fast travel that will be just a pocket away (for wildlife), while my DSLR stays in the pack (for other subjects). Nailing focus on the fly is key. I've been disappointed with the Sony RX10 III on that score.
does it still hold up in 2021?
Fiero is a Pontiac car, Chris. And also, I absolutely adored the video. As a Panasonic user myself, I cringe at the SOOC still coming out of these cameras. I really wished Panasonic stole some of the Fuji guys and worked on the colors of their JPGs (and RAWs). Even Olympus has a great gamut, why can't Panasonic get over that cold, flat VHS era coloring?
Looking at camera reviews , and I see the Bow! Calgary bois!
Pontiac Fiero Chris. Nice review, as usual 👍
there is a third party filter thread one can mount on those cameras. I saw it in a video about LX15 and ND filter, it should fit right there on the ZS200 too.
I want ask, if it has a clean hdmi out, so i can use an external recorder. Can you test it if possible? Thanks
My first digital camera was the TZ1, for about $250-300. It blows my mind that the modern equivalent is $800
Thanks for this review. I'm looking at getting a compact camera to replace my fading Olympus D700. I don't think this is the one, but I'm keeping my options open.
This may replace my ZS50 for travel. Thanks for a great review.
Informative and thanks for the honest review and Chris cracks me up with the caveats....hilarious
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This camera is all about the zoom and great video, higher EVF dots, better auto focus....sacrifices a wider Aperture.
Great background music midway through.....#Wesdevine
I'm torn between this and the Canon GX7 MKII. Would be cool to see a shoot out, but couldn't find one. Any thoughts on how they compare? I prefer the Canon's form factor, operation etc. but the zs200 seems better on paper. Love your vids!
Love your reviews!!
Hello Chris, Panasonic ZS200 vs ZS100: what do you think...which ist better in picture quality (stills)? I know: 200 do have better viewfinder, more zoom, new Features and so on.Thats not so important for me, but wich one ist really a little bit better in picture Quality? Thanks for answering a fan of the camera store tv from Gemany - althoug ist perhaps a boring question for you, I know.PS: Your videos are humorous ans serriously, you tell Pros & Cons and make not only a very good job - it´s a real help for buying and I love it, really. Christoph
The Price of This camera in my country almost same with Sony ZV1.. which one do you recommend..?
SO, having DSLRs, and traveling a lot, I can have these cameras in two of my vest pockets, The Ricoh GRii and the Leica c-lux, and cover all my needs! Not having to carry my DSLRs and lenses.
Does video from this camera transfer easily to the most recent Apple OS - Catalina? Photos usually work, but video is always a problem for me when purchasing new cameras and this is one I'm seriously looking at. Thanks! Terrific video.
And for enthusiast phographers like myself, you may need 2 cameras. I love having my GRii an my Leica C-Lux.
Thank you, very informative review.
Great video but the Fiero was made by Pontiac, not Ford. I always wanted one but I am very happy with my Trans Am.
Also, that "90's era muscle car" looked like they tried to picture a 60's style Mustang.
while there is no filter ring, you can get a little adapter kit with magnetic ring to put filters on. I got one for my LX10 and it works fairly well
I’ll stick with my RX100. The lack of a flip screen is a dealbreaker. The soft lens too. Could’ve been the perfect small camera. Thought Sony would have a competitor by now.
How the RX100? Looks like you're looking for another camera. Is it any good?
Great review!
Love your videos!
I noticed in your pictures, a very high speed for not moving shots. Is it in manual mode? Sunny day, why such a high shutter speed? Thank you!
Thanks man. I had this in my Amazon cart, but it's coming out. It's 2021 and still no big zoom 1" sensor compact cameras out there. I'm stuck with Sony's 24-200 I guess.
So confusing- What are you shooting with and when. Was the walking backward across the bridge just editorial or was it taken by the zs200. You guys should preface the production camera from the review model. We may be liking either. Mic or on camera sample, etc. Too much doubts.
How do you thing this camera will perform when mounted to a bicycle's handlebar, to be used as am actioncam? I'm trying to delay buying the Sony RX0. The ZS200 has a 1" sensor and can be purchased for just over $400 Used.
Nice camera. I was hoping it would have a flip screen for vlogging but I guess you can't have it all.
Good video. Looking for a small compact camera to have on vacations only to substitute my Huawei Mate 10 Pro. Do you think the ZS 60 would still be a great camera to have in 2018? This is too much money for me. Would like to stay around $300 and still have above average camera quality and zoom. Thanks
Very good review,thank you! Y like your videos!
Actually the ZS200 has a 24fps output not capture. It only has a single frequency sensor (NTSC) as opposed to the GH5 with dual (NTSC/PAL). However just like the GH5 it doesn't capture in 24fps, instead it interpolates the 24fps from a 30fps sensor capture. It's even more noticeable on Sony cameras when a reboot is required from 25fps to 30fps but not 30fps to 24fps. If you pause the video above when there is some fast motion you can see some frames that are two combined frames with objects in different positions at the same time.
Very late to the party. Recently got a TZ91 in VGC for £160. 20MP with the smaller 1/2.3 sensor but it has a flip screen. 4K video. Nice, solid, heavy body. Not sure what else you need for a compact camera. Keep the ISO down and/or AI denoise in Lightroom and you have a great pocket/street/travel camera.
Thnak you for your review
Great review! Is the Sony RX100 mark 7 worth the premium price difference considering the performance? In Croatia, the mark 7 Sony is double the price of the Panasonic and since I'm an amateur photographer and use everything in Auto 90% of the time, would the Panasonic be ok for my needs?
I'm wondering if this could be a good concert camera? I mean ho does it performs in low light?
I thought there might be some out-takes from the sequence of Chris walking backwards over the bridge. Don't tell me you didn't have to have several goes at that one. Nice review.
John H. Maw Actually it did take me a few tries to get that one. Amazingly the selfie style video we did was in one take.
Chris@TCSTV
chris Pro tip: next time shoot it walking forward, edit it reverse :-)
The camera that I'm carrying on my hip is the Canon PowerShot ELPH180. Good camera, but screen only, no viewfinder.
Hey, what camera would you recommend getting for concerts? I saw someone shoot video with this camera and it looked really good
My copy of the ZS100 had an extremely soft lens, and it was a known issue. Hopefully they fixed it in this version. Either way, the slow lens is really disappointing. They really should have kept it at f2.8
LambentLizard that literally wouldn’t be possible while keeping the small size and or the zoom range. One of those two has to give.
--- *Fine review* of this _'highend-point-&-shoot'_ ☺☺☺ ---
At the moment ZS200 is about $800 on B&H and ZS100 is about $550. From what I saw in your reviews (this one and 2016 one) does it make sense to buy the newer model at that price? I'm leaning towards "no, it doesn't", but what do you think?
@thecamerastoretv: thanks for the review! What would your suggestion be for the best compact viewfinder (crucial) camera? MFT or below! Thanks Nicolas
Hi guys, what a great quality of the video! It would be useful to know what lens are you using on that GH5. Thanks!
You are good, dude. I'd like to see you to ask questions of Truedough and tRump.
I certain you'd have your details down.
Sweet focus pulling at 5.48. What lenses were used on the GH5?
Thanks! I just used my beloved Sigma 18-35mm F1.8.
Jordan @ TCSTV
Reminds me of the old Pentax Espio 200 film camera. Interesting idea but the working aperture is tiny. I'm surprised anyone still makes cameras like this.
How would you compare the ZS200 to Sony's competition for a travel camera? I understand that no one else has the zoom of the Panasonic.
All i want it for is low light live band shows, will it do the job well. i know the audio is not too bad so just need to do video only
the ZS200 looks oooookkkk, but my real question is...... any news on the release of a Sony RX100 Mk6 or Canon G7X Mk3? :)
I can understand compact. I've got a few cameras now, but the one I tend to take with me when I leave the house is my Fuji X20. I kind of wish it had the electronic viewfinder of the X30, but oh well. The lens is fabulous, and the camera's small.
Do you happen to have any idea why my display screen may not work? I can see the backlight turn on when I turn the camera on but there is no picture or anything on the display screen. It just stays black. Or where you might recommend to get it fixed?
It's so hard choosing a camera, hours of youtube videos and i still cant make up my mind. Please help me decide. I live in Haiti so I'm surrounding by water and mountains, i love to go snorkeling so whatever camera i choose must have a water proof housing for it. So I've narrowed the choices down to a few camera. The panasonic lx10, zs200, and sony rx100v. Price is not really an issue because i find them on ebay preowned around the same prices. I would just like your opinion on what camera you think is best for underwater and traveling.
How would you compare this camera with the Canon G7X Mark II? I saw your other video on the G7X and was pretty much set on that one.
is that camera good in 2020?
Hey, are the pictures directly from the camera or are they processed afterwards?