I do appreciate the fact that you consider being budget minded while i'm still having good communications. Truly exceptional testing of gmrs antennas! Well done sir!
Thanks! I'm actually going to do a "budget package" video for three different price points. Basically buy this package 1 if you have $100, or package 2 if you have $150, etc... That's gonna be a good one!
Thank you for posting this video. After your testing, I ordered the Smiley 5/8 Slim Duck 465 for my Wouxun KG-905G. You have the only video that explained the protective rubber boot that covers the metal connector. I was really surprised that the Smiley performed almost as well as the longer Nagoya 771G, which is a great antenna, but not very convenient to carry around. Great video!
Thanks Steve. That was a fun video to shoot because the weather was perfect and the wind didn't interrupt like the part 2. You will love the Smiley! I just ordered the Super Stick telescopic for my Wouxun, which should be here next week! The 5/8 Slim Duck is amazing! Make sure you test all of your equipment. I am uploading a video now that shows a brand new radio not pushing 1/2 the power it should. Just a bad batch I guess.
Great review, Sir. Very nice selection of antennae to compare. Just recently I picked up a new radio that came with an ABBREE AR-771 in the VHF/UHF version. I gotta tell ya that the first time I tested it, the words "Oh wow" inadvertently fell out of my mouth. I was very impressed with it. I'm glad to see that you got a similar result with your GRMS version. Thanks for the video.
Found the Abbree on eBay for $8.99, just on receive I was amazed at the GMRS repeaters I was receiving a county away. A great antenna. Love the orange color for hunting and hiking. Wish more radios would give you the orange color for outdoor activities. Riding ATV, never know when a radio will pop out. That color really stands out in the woods.
Nice review on the Abree, I normally use a Nagoya 701c for my GMRS radio it works great on for me. Sadly, I can't use the longer antennas when I am at work.
@baileymoto you are in luck! I'm doing another budget radio review tomorrow evening and it will showcase 5 or 6 radios under $60, and then all the good aftermarket antennas. It's gonna be detailed, so it might be as late as Wednesday before I get it uploaded. Subscribe and hit the bell so u get notifications.
I just got my set of TIDRadio TD-H3's a couple days ago and have been playing with them with the stock antennas... and I'm thoroughly impressed with these tiny radios. I WISH they came with the GMRS 771 antennas, but mine was packaged with TD-771 antennas tuned for 120/300MHz. Kinda useless, unless you really want to listen to air band. The short antennas that came with my radios are also different than what you have, they say in the base that they are tuned for 400-480MHz. They seemed to perform ok...
I have a couple of those 400-480, which came with my H8 GMRS models. they do work extremely well! Yes, the 771 (even the 136/430) perform very well on GMRS. I believe you can order them at tidradio.com, if not, just get a Nagoya! Here's the link, and it will do everything you ever wanted a GMRS antenna to do! amzn.to/3UjymRw
Video was very informative. I am new and have much to learn. What equipment is needed to have your transmission sent back to you as you did in this video.
Thanks for the info, i tried the hyroshi something 771g same length as the nagoya 771g but much thicker and way floppy.. returned it i will check this orange one out
Love all these real world tests, but what I've missed is which budget TID/Bao/ddity radio has the best fars in wind? And then matching antenna for that model? I was birding in the Aleutian Islands last month and we couldnt communicate because of a small hill, wind, and distance. Next year I'll be much better prepared with radios that'll reach, and I may even build a case repeater. I'd love to buy through your affiliate links. Thanks so much!
That's kind of difficult to answer. If you could have 2 antennas in one for all of those situations, you would have a winner. From what I've found: The Smiley 5/8 Slim Duck 465 does a great job of penetrating wind, but it's short and hard to receive. The Nagoya 771g receives best in wind, but the Smiley transmits better. In the wind, my experience is the Signal Stuff 440 doesn't work well. Whatch my newest video (H3 Antenna Shootout). That's at 8 miles also, and it will show you more than this video. The ditty GM30 pairs excellent with a Nagoya 771g (that video is out there somewhere also). The H3 seems to have the best TX and Rx for budget radios though. Sorry for all this information, but I do a lot of tests and sometimes they turn out different. To sum it up for a budget: H3 with Smiley 5/8 Slim Duck 465, and. Nagoya 771g in my backpack....
ruclips.net/video/wRbNTBhZCd0/видео.htmlsi=eLlNf_xOo_RLP2dE This is the video link I just referenced in previous reply. Make sure you read that last reply also!
@FirstUnitedTactical thank you so much! That is what I thought I had gathered from your 4(?) Videos, but it also is hard to tell across aaaalllll of that when it's not your own personal experience. I also read that follower comment thread about how Booofwangs mess up on the receive, especially with long antennas... I'm very new to radio but I'm grazed with 'the spectrum' so have learned soooo much very recently. It's so much to learn... I love it. Thank you for this!!! Als Also, the spread of your videos, if I remember right, was best fars radio with stock antenna, then your own selection of radios to test a spread of antennas, followed by more antenna testing with just the H3 (and maybe H8), then the 1min video of the receive compilation of the best antennas... in an indirect way, it answered my question, which was my brain wanting to see what's the best antenna for each radio, then the playoffs to find the best combo. So many factors, but I like your desire of finding the best fars, in real life. "My Man!" Cheers, David! Thanks again.
@FirstUnitedTactical oh, just to make sure and be clear, the H3 is the radio fars winner, not considering antenna choice? Not an H8? And that one Bao combo sure was clear! Haha. I only have a couple Bao's so far, but love the radio itself. So little use though. Thanks!
@joshjspice Thanks Josh! I'm not sure how many field test videos there are, but I think I'm about to upload my 22nd video, or somewhere around there. I believe it will be my biggest hit yet. It's the battle between the H8 HAM 10W and the H8 5w GMRS. Everyone thinks if they buy a 10w H8 for HAM, then unlock to GMRS, they still get 10w. This video shows it does not. It's pretty solid and I can't wait to get it uploaded! Final editing tonight, so look tomorrow maybe. It will have a Grey background with red words that say LET'S GET IT ON!!!!!
Very Good Testing Of Different Makes Of Models Of Antennas!. Very Interesting Of Their Performances. Thank You! For Your Time In Showing Us The Different Makes Of Antennas You Had Out For Display. For Us. OOOH! I Have Something To Share Speaking Of The Weather. Well I Was Out In My Back Yard Around 7:30 P.M. The Sun Gone Down About An Hour Before. I Live Out In The West Coast About 3 Miles From The Pacific Ocean. Very Strange Incident It Had To Do With The Moon. There Was A Moon Eclipse. Yesterday March The 12Th. I Was Facing West So I Looked Up. If You Invision O'clock With 1 to !2 Looking Up I Would Say The Position Of The Moon Was About 11 O'clock Slightly Of The 12 O'clock Point. Well I Notice Something Strange There Were Clouds Near The Moon It Would Cover It But You Could See The Moon Seep Through The Clouds I Was Out There For Close To An Hour. Well I Was Getting Thirsty I Made Myself A Cup Of Coffee I Was Inside For About 15 Minutes And Drank Some Coffee Inside The House. I Left My Coffee Inside And I Went Outside And Put A Water Bowl For My Outdoor Cat. Well I Happen To Look Up And I Notice The Cloud That Was Covering The Moon Dissipated And Then I Asked My Self Where Is The Moon? The Eclipse Moon? That I Was Looking At With Some Clouds Covering It. I Happen To See If The Moon Was At Least Going Down In The Horizon But There Was No Moon That I Should See I Asked Myself. Something Was Not Right. I Think We All Know It Takes About 3 Hours At Least To See The Moon Go Down In The Horizon. But The Eclipse Moon Was Not Seen Anywhere Down In The Horizon And No There Were No Clouds Any Where Down In The Horizon. So The Hour I Was Outside Looking Up At The A Eclipse Moon At 11 O'Clock Slightly Off The 12 O'clock Point. And The 15 Minutes That I Was In Making My Self A Cup Of Coffee Then Going Back Outside Again To Put Some Water For My Outdoor Cat Really Goten Me Thinking Where Did The Moon Go?! In That 15 Minutes That I Was Making A Cup Of Coffee. It Was About 9:O'Clock When Goin Back Outside In My Yard It Was Around 8:45 When I Went Inside To Make A Cup Of Coffee. That Is One Incident That Got Me Asking ? tions. Where Did The Moon Eclipse Go? After The Clouds Dissipated When Going Outside Again To Take Another Glance At The Moon Eclipse. After I Put A Bowl Of Water For My Outdoor Cat. Well I Wanted To Share That Eclipse Moon Incident That We Had On March The 12Th 2024. Thank You Again For The Different Models Of Antennas For A GMRS Handheld Transceiver. From California U.S.A.
@nol_yaw Sometimes I forget to say that part. It's a Surecom Simplex repeater (link in description). Here's the video on how Inset it up and operations. ruclips.net/video/7qdM3BJ2Wz0/видео.htmlsi=QX11edq_hayE-dtd
That's in the 1st antenna video. It's a Surecom Simplex repeater hooked up to a Tidradio H8 with a Nagoya 771g. This is the 3rd video, which was the best one, but the others explain a little more.
@@FirstUnitedTactical Thank you for the info, I just ordered one! I remembered seeing a video about one, but couldn't remember which video, now I know! 🙂
I appreciate that! There are newer videos also, and quite a few more antenna testing. I also just recorded the newest that is all 771 15" antennas. It will be uploaded this week.
I'm new to GMRS and surprised how hard it is for the radio to reach 10 miles, my cobra 148 from 1995 had much better range but now I need a good handheld GMRS radio.
In addition to my last reply, take a look at this video. The Wouxun KG-UV9GX is an awesome radio with a super heterodyne receiver. If you can swing $200 for a radio, this is your guy.... (and click the link in the description, then use the coupon code for 7% off radios $100 or more.) ruclips.net/video/84H0iwKGRUs/видео.html
Good day, I hope you’re well. I have a question regarding the Signal Stick antenna. If I mount it on a vehicle, I’m concerned about its flexibility. Would it be able to handle high speeds over long periods without deforming or being damaged by the wind? I’d appreciate your thoughts on this. Thank you!
@SecretMan299 Well, I personally wouldn't mount a handheld antenna on a vehicle because of the durability issue. There are plenty of antennas that are inexpensive, and also handle more than enough power. My advice is to get a NMO magnet mount and a "32" center coiled 4.5-6db gain antenna for a vehicle. It will talk and receive far more than an HT antenna. But, if you decide to use a handheld antenna, I've heard of guys using the Nagoya 771g. It will flex in the wind, but it's a pretty solid antenna. Actually, the Bandit G 771 from BuyTwoWayRadios (link in that video description) will be a stronger antenna. Let me get the video link for you....
I actually have not. I've heard many good things about it, and my FD radio is a Kenwood (P25), which is amazing. Our old FM freq was also Kenwood, and never had any issues.
I have a TD-H3. I’m looking for a better antenna (if this will help) for the air band. I’d also like a recommendation for a 2M/440 antenna please, thanks!
I don't know anything about tge AM band antenna. I know Radioddity sells AM antennas though. For Ham, Diamond and Nagoya are basically the same company, so Diamind is going to be good. Signal Stuff Signal Stick is a really good company also.
Both the orange 771c and the standard black 771 perform great. If you are in the U.S., don't forget Amazon too! I have a ton of links for Amazon and coupon codes for major brands in my descriptions. Either Abbree, you will love it!
Did you see the video where the guy put the counter poise directly on the SMA threads and screwed on a Signal Stick? My jaw dropped! Every antenna tested was an S 4-5 wth static even the SS. Then add the Tiger Tail. The SS went to S9 plus ⬆ and full quieting! I mean when in doubt whip it out! The Tiger Tail that is!!
I have researched and made them. I can't get any change at all, so that's why I haven't done a video yet. I really want to do a field test without, then with to show what they can really do, but I haven't had any luck. I've watch a ton of videos also but still can't get one to work on any of the radios.
@@FirstUnitedTactical Yes, I understand you, but I mean if the antenna you are talking about with the baofeng is a particular one. I want to look for that model on the internet and upgrade my walkie.
@alvarogvdltgarcia52 Here is the link for the two pack, but once you get in, click the single pack. That long antenna is the one I used where I said "look at how wiggly this is". amzn.to/4awJz6m
Hey! I got one of these for free with a radio, and tested a perfect 1.0 SWR. I thought it was a fluke but I tested various other antennas and was getting over 5.0 on some, supprisingly the newer UV5R rubber duckies were right around 1.0 also. But dang these ABBREE antennas are awesome and cheap.
I've noticed that the "new" Baofeng radios (UV5r, 5g Plus, 5RH, etc...) all come with a blank extended range like the Abbree. They sure do look a lot like them, but I haven't cut them open to compare. Once I get more of the "orange" Abbree antennas, I will cut them all up on camera to show everyone if Baofeng is in fact partnering with Abbree for their extended....
@@FirstUnitedTactical nope that one sucked lol. It’s the same ABBREE you have marked 771, GMRS. I got a perfect SWR reading. I thought it was a fluke but other antennas tested differently. Same SWR/power meter.
@@joeschnell5695 I saw that in another video somewhere, but I don’t have one. I still have the box, but I guess one was never there. I thought about trying to make my own, but there’s that little screw on the side that is supposed to do something…. Attach a wire to ground the ground plate?
I'm not gonna say yes outright, because the TD H3 is an awesome radio at its price point. BUUUUUUUT, when you spend $230 on a radio, it will be better than a $39 radio. The Q10g is a heterodyne chip which is far more advanced than the TID, and it does have a cleaner Rx and Tx. It's a far better, more advanced radio than the TID's, but the price is up there. I use the H3 and H8 (rarely Q10) in my videos so I can help us normal consumers find the best budget radio. If you don't mind spending $200, then I would go for the Q10 or the KG-UV9Gx, which is very similar. the Q10 has the old CB channels programmed though (in addition to all the other 6 or 7 bands, if that matters. They both push the same power, and same technology. The Q10g is larger in size than the 9Gx. I am ordering a 9Gx this week because it is a little smaller and not so bulky. I am currently getting set up with a link and coupon code for the 9Gx for 7% off and I should have that info tomorrow. I can send it to you if you would like.
The Tidradio extended antenna is for airband frequencies not GMRS. TD-H3 has airband capability to listen to aircraft. It is not meant to be used for gmrs
@garyburns1033 Correct, however there are different packages you can buy. I have 2 different packages, with different antennas. I'm not transmitting on the longer 120 Mhz antenna in any of my videos. Those antennas just collect dust. I only transmit on "440+" or GMRS tuned like Smiley 5/8 and Nagoya 771. I'm glad you wrote that and hope others see this. I was on the first wave of H3 orders, and my first pack didn't even come with the 120. That package came about a month later.
@@FirstUnitedTactical Best Bang for the Buck is the ABREE AR-771G GMRS but I suggest People test them as it’s a crap shoot sometimes. Otherwise The original Nagoya 771 G especially for those who will never test them like we do. Awesome Channel always enjoy watching You Test Radio Gear 👍🏻
@garyburns1033 Thanks Gary! For the longest time my favorite extended range is the Nagoya 771g. Maybe 10 videos ago, (maybe this video), people started telling me to try the Diamond SRJ77CA. I didn't for tge longest time because it was a V/U 2/70 antenna, but when I got it, I was blown away. It's definitely a top contender with the 771g, and sometimes performs better! That Smiley 5/8 Slim Duck 465 is my all time favorite for short antennas tho.
Is the Abree tactical antenna you tested the ar-152 GMRS version that just came out? This looks to be the ham version I bet you the gmrs version would be a lot better
@@grizsgarage Get the M to F adapter on Amazon. I hope I'm understanding you right, this may or may not be the correct adapter, but it's the SMA M to SMA F adaptor: amzn.to/3wQ6N8t
All of the "extended range" antennas are around the 15" mark, but Smiley and Signal make a standard 6". They don't perform as well as a 15", but still work great as a short one. On my Wouxuns, they have the 2/70 antennas, and one is only 8", so why is a Signal Stick (roughly 15" or so)? Each company makes their own long and short, and they all work well. But clearly, size does matter!
@baileymoto it's actually really good. On this particular video, talking for 3-4 hrs, I still had at least 3/4 battery. And that's transmission on high. If it's sitting in my truck all day just scanning, the battery icon still shows full charge. It's better than the $39 I paid. It's now $29 I think. It's by far the best radio you can get for that price. It still has air band Rx, Scramble, tone search, all the goodies. Of course a $150-200 Wouxun will have more features, but you can't beat it for $29. The proof is in this video!
@@FirstUnitedTactical Good stuff, looks like I need to grab one. Recently bought a wouxun s88 and it’s a dud, probably defective. Think I may go back to another cheap radio, heh. Chirp and Bluetooth programming is a big win as well. Will miss the waterproofing…but at that price I’ll just buy another. 😆 thanks again!
@@DaytonaJim78 Honestly you are transmitting better with the Q10 vs the TID. Theres a part at the end that I cut out and didn’t include in the video. The Q10 with the Nagoya 771g and it was almost clear! I didn’t want to shoot the H3 in the foot by showing that, but I can still use it on another video. Wouxun just has a Heterodyne chip that’s far more advanced than a $39 or $50 TID. You can’t tell when the signal is already close and clear, but when you distance, and static, the Q10 really shines and outperforms 10x. Wouxun is a badass company that makes a badass radio. I just ordered the KG-UV9Gx tonight. It’s got just about the same features, but it’s smaller, like a normal 935g. When I talk to the guys on my local repeater 29 miles away, INTO SAN ANTONIO, they say they can hear me like I am standing right next to them, Q10 with 771g. So trust me, it’s a radio that doesn’t mess around! I like the H3 with the Smiley only because it’s tiny and isn’t heavy, which is why I just ordered the uv9gx. I will be doing a video on that pretty quick, which will show even farther range. You got this man!
Got a couple of these orange Abbrees. Very disappointed! They didn't fit some of my radios. Unfortunately, this includes the popular Tidradio H8. The threaded connector on these antennas is too short. When I used just a little bit of force trying to fully screw it in, it kept turning and the black skirt at the base of the antenna started moving up pretty easily. I thought, aha, that's the trick. Nope! After this, the antenna just stopped working, period. No signal on my field strength meter even with other radios. I hope I didn't damage my radios... I would skip this model. Get a real Nagoya or Smiley. In my experience, Wouxun antennas are pretty good, too.
Woah! I'm sure the radio is fine. I do believe there is an aftermarket antenna in my collection that will also spin freely after that initial tighten area. But it still works. Send'em back! I have 5 Nagoya 771g's and not one has an issue like that.
It always amazes me how the GMRS tribe, is so into the technical aspect of radio stuff. Yet many don't want to get into Ham radio, because they have to take a test!? Its ironic!
@@FirstUnitedTactical I was a CBer as a kid and then went for my tech and now an extra. Having been licensed for over 60 years I am certain that you will enjoy the ham radio hobby. Go for it. N9UU. I enjoy your videos and think they are very informative.
I don't like tests in wide open spaces. Lots of radios and antennas can go for miles in those environments. What does it do if you're among the trees and hills?
True, but I'm trying to show real transmission results, and honestly South Texas is nothing but flat wide open land. We have some trees that are maybe 40' tall, but the bulk of them are 20' high. It's not a typical environment like it would be in Georgia or Montana. Less than 100 miles west is the desert.
Since everyone also lives in different geographical areas, also look at it as a comparison test from stock antenna to aftermarket antenna. Picture the 5 mile mark, on any of those 3 videos, and listen to the quality difference between the antennas. It doesn't matter if you live in a thick jungle or flat desert, as long as you know the Nagoya or the Smiley performs about 30% better than stock antennas. No matter how you look at it, an aftermarket antenna will get you more range than factory, no matter where you live.
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I do appreciate the fact that you consider being budget minded while i'm still having good communications. Truly exceptional testing of gmrs antennas! Well done sir!
Thanks! I'm actually going to do a "budget package" video for three different price points. Basically buy this package 1 if you have $100, or package 2 if you have $150, etc... That's gonna be a good one!
@@FirstUnitedTactical looking forward to it!
I’m really enjoying this series of videos you’ve doing on the antenna testing. Very informative!
Thanks Billie! It's fun!
soo useful, saving me a ton of time
Thank you for posting this video. After your testing, I ordered the Smiley 5/8 Slim Duck 465 for my Wouxun KG-905G. You have the only video that explained the protective rubber boot that covers the metal connector. I was really surprised that the Smiley performed almost as well as the longer Nagoya 771G, which is a great antenna, but not very convenient to carry around. Great video!
Thanks Steve. That was a fun video to shoot because the weather was perfect and the wind didn't interrupt like the part 2. You will love the Smiley! I just ordered the Super Stick telescopic for my Wouxun, which should be here next week! The 5/8 Slim Duck is amazing! Make sure you test all of your equipment. I am uploading a video now that shows a brand new radio not pushing 1/2 the power it should. Just a bad batch I guess.
Thanks! It was a fun video and the weather was just perfect. Smiley us an amazing mom and pop company too!
Great review, Sir. Very nice selection of antennae to compare. Just recently I picked up a new radio that came with an ABBREE AR-771 in the VHF/UHF version. I gotta tell ya that the first time I tested it, the words "Oh wow" inadvertently fell out of my mouth. I was very impressed with it. I'm glad to see that you got a similar result with your GRMS version. Thanks for the video.
Abbree really makes a good antenna. Smiley is awesome also
Best comparison I’ve found thank you
This is part 3. Part 2 was decent, but wind was a big factor.
@@FirstUnitedTactical I’ll watch the other 2 thank you
Great video. Thank you for the field test of the antennas.
It's a blast doing it, because I never know what will happen when I let the PTT go! The facial expressions are real because I get shocked also!
Thanks for posting. Keep them coming
Found the Abbree on eBay for $8.99, just on receive I was amazed at the GMRS repeaters I was receiving a county away. A great antenna. Love the orange color for hunting and hiking. Wish more radios would give you the orange color for outdoor activities. Riding ATV, never know when a radio will pop out. That color really stands out in the woods.
Keep up the good work. Love the reviews on the antennas. I shared this on a Facebook GMRS group.
Thanks! I'm trying! The next video will be a "what should I buy if I only have $75, 150, 200 etc..." kind of video.
I had no idea there was a Facebook GMRS group, thanks.
thanks man i was just looking for the antenna for that radio
I like the way test theses antennas. 👍
Nice review on the Abree, I normally use a Nagoya 701c for my GMRS radio it works great on for me. Sadly, I can't use the longer antennas when I am at work.
Nagoya is an awesome company. If you need a shorter, like the 701, the Smiley 5/8 Slim Duck performs better than the 701g. I haven't tried the 701c.
@@FirstUnitedTacticalWhat were your results between the 701g and the Slim Duck? Have a video by chance? Thanks!
@baileymoto you are in luck! I'm doing another budget radio review tomorrow evening and it will showcase 5 or 6 radios under $60, and then all the good aftermarket antennas. It's gonna be detailed, so it might be as late as Wednesday before I get it uploaded. Subscribe and hit the bell so u get notifications.
@@FirstUnitedTactical Spoiler alert. The h3 is the best radio….under $100! 😆
@baileymoto oh believe me I know, and Spoiler alert: Thats already the winner tomorrow! It's my go to radio for testing if you haven't seen
I just got my set of TIDRadio TD-H3's a couple days ago and have been playing with them with the stock antennas... and I'm thoroughly impressed with these tiny radios. I WISH they came with the GMRS 771 antennas, but mine was packaged with TD-771 antennas tuned for 120/300MHz. Kinda useless, unless you really want to listen to air band. The short antennas that came with my radios are also different than what you have, they say in the base that they are tuned for 400-480MHz. They seemed to perform ok...
I have a couple of those 400-480, which came with my H8 GMRS models. they do work extremely well! Yes, the 771 (even the 136/430) perform very well on GMRS. I believe you can order them at tidradio.com, if not, just get a Nagoya! Here's the link, and it will do everything you ever wanted a GMRS antenna to do! amzn.to/3UjymRw
Thanks. That’s why I can’t get out with my factory whip !! 👍🏻
Yeah.....
perfect.... would like to see tests in different weather conditions
Sure thing. If you saw Part 2, the wind was insane and I couldn't get anything out at even 8 miles.
@@FirstUnitedTactical saw that.... but more inclement weather and lower clouds.....or cold?
@@ArmonMitchell This is “South Central Texas” where we wear shorts and flip flops on Christmas Day!
Video was very informative. I am new and have much to learn. What equipment is needed to have your transmission sent back to you as you did in this video.
It's a simplex repeater. Here is the link that I did for that set up:
ruclips.net/video/7qdM3BJ2Wz0/видео.html
Thanks for the info, i tried the hyroshi something 771g same length as the nagoya 771g but much thicker and way floppy.. returned it i will check this orange one out
It's a super good antenna. I was surprised.
Love all these real world tests, but what I've missed is which budget TID/Bao/ddity radio has the best fars in wind? And then matching antenna for that model? I was birding in the Aleutian Islands last month and we couldnt communicate because of a small hill, wind, and distance. Next year I'll be much better prepared with radios that'll reach, and I may even build a case repeater. I'd love to buy through your affiliate links. Thanks so much!
That's kind of difficult to answer. If you could have 2 antennas in one for all of those situations, you would have a winner. From what I've found:
The Smiley 5/8 Slim Duck 465 does a great job of penetrating wind, but it's short and hard to receive. The Nagoya 771g receives best in wind, but the Smiley transmits better. In the wind, my experience is the Signal Stuff 440 doesn't work well. Whatch my newest video (H3 Antenna Shootout). That's at 8 miles also, and it will show you more than this video.
The ditty GM30 pairs excellent with a Nagoya 771g (that video is out there somewhere also). The H3 seems to have the best TX and Rx for budget radios though. Sorry for all this information, but I do a lot of tests and sometimes they turn out different.
To sum it up for a budget:
H3 with Smiley 5/8 Slim Duck 465, and. Nagoya 771g in my backpack....
ruclips.net/video/wRbNTBhZCd0/видео.htmlsi=eLlNf_xOo_RLP2dE
This is the video link I just referenced in previous reply. Make sure you read that last reply also!
@FirstUnitedTactical thank you so much! That is what I thought I had gathered from your 4(?) Videos, but it also is hard to tell across aaaalllll of that when it's not your own personal experience. I also read that follower comment thread about how Booofwangs mess up on the receive, especially with long antennas... I'm very new to radio but I'm grazed with 'the spectrum' so have learned soooo much very recently. It's so much to learn... I love it. Thank you for this!!! Als
Also, the spread of your videos, if I remember right, was best fars radio with stock antenna, then your own selection of radios to test a spread of antennas, followed by more antenna testing with just the H3 (and maybe H8), then the 1min video of the receive compilation of the best antennas... in an indirect way, it answered my question, which was my brain wanting to see what's the best antenna for each radio, then the playoffs to find the best combo. So many factors, but I like your desire of finding the best fars, in real life. "My Man!" Cheers, David! Thanks again.
@FirstUnitedTactical oh, just to make sure and be clear, the H3 is the radio fars winner, not considering antenna choice? Not an H8? And that one Bao combo sure was clear! Haha. I only have a couple Bao's so far, but love the radio itself. So little use though. Thanks!
@joshjspice Thanks Josh! I'm not sure how many field test videos there are, but I think I'm about to upload my 22nd video, or somewhere around there. I believe it will be my biggest hit yet. It's the battle between the H8 HAM 10W and the H8 5w GMRS. Everyone thinks if they buy a 10w H8 for HAM, then unlock to GMRS, they still get 10w. This video shows it does not. It's pretty solid and I can't wait to get it uploaded! Final editing tonight, so look tomorrow maybe. It will have a Grey background with red words that say LET'S GET IT ON!!!!!
Very Good Testing Of Different Makes Of Models Of Antennas!. Very Interesting Of Their Performances. Thank You! For Your Time In Showing Us The Different Makes Of Antennas You Had Out For Display. For Us. OOOH! I Have Something To Share Speaking Of The Weather. Well I Was Out In My Back Yard Around 7:30 P.M. The Sun Gone Down About An Hour Before. I Live Out In The West Coast About 3 Miles From The Pacific Ocean. Very Strange Incident It Had To Do With The Moon. There Was A Moon Eclipse. Yesterday March The 12Th. I Was Facing West So I Looked Up. If You Invision O'clock With 1 to !2 Looking Up I Would Say The Position Of The Moon Was About 11 O'clock Slightly Of The 12 O'clock Point. Well I Notice Something Strange There Were Clouds Near The Moon It Would Cover It But You Could See The Moon Seep Through The Clouds I Was Out There For Close To An Hour. Well I Was Getting Thirsty I Made Myself A Cup Of Coffee I Was Inside For About 15 Minutes And Drank Some Coffee Inside The House. I Left My Coffee Inside And I Went Outside And Put A Water Bowl For My Outdoor Cat. Well I Happen To Look Up And I Notice The Cloud That Was Covering The Moon Dissipated And Then I Asked My Self Where Is The Moon? The Eclipse Moon? That I Was Looking At With Some Clouds Covering It. I Happen To See If The Moon Was At Least Going Down In The Horizon But There Was No Moon That I Should See I Asked Myself. Something Was Not Right. I Think We All Know It Takes About 3 Hours At Least To See The Moon Go Down In The Horizon. But The Eclipse Moon Was Not Seen Anywhere Down In The Horizon And No There Were No Clouds Any Where Down In The Horizon. So The Hour I Was Outside Looking Up At The A Eclipse Moon At 11 O'Clock Slightly Off The 12 O'clock Point. And The 15 Minutes That I Was In Making My Self A Cup Of Coffee Then Going Back Outside Again To Put Some Water For My Outdoor Cat Really Goten Me Thinking Where Did The Moon Go?! In That 15 Minutes That I Was Making A Cup Of Coffee. It Was About 9:O'Clock When Goin Back Outside In My Yard It Was Around 8:45 When I Went Inside To Make A Cup Of Coffee. That Is One Incident That Got Me Asking ? tions. Where Did The Moon Eclipse Go? After The Clouds Dissipated When Going Outside Again To Take Another Glance At The Moon Eclipse. After I Put A Bowl Of Water For My Outdoor Cat. Well I Wanted To Share That Eclipse Moon Incident That We Had On March The 12Th 2024. Thank You Again For The Different Models Of Antennas For A GMRS Handheld Transceiver. From California U.S.A.
How are you getting your voice to repeat back to you when you broadcast?
@nol_yaw Sometimes I forget to say that part. It's a Surecom Simplex repeater (link in description). Here's the video on how Inset it up and operations.
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I mentioned this in another vid, I'd like to see you set up a GMRS base antenna 20+ feet up and see what your range would be.
I will do it for ya. There's some videos that I have to get out first, but the next time I get in the field I will make it a point.
What device did you use to have your audio transmitted back to you?
That's in the 1st antenna video. It's a Surecom Simplex repeater hooked up to a Tidradio H8 with a Nagoya 771g. This is the 3rd video, which was the best one, but the others explain a little more.
@@FirstUnitedTactical Thank you for the info, I just ordered one! I remembered seeing a video about one, but couldn't remember which video, now I know! 🙂
@@OhYeah-qx9qn yeah there's a link in the description on that 1st video for the one I used. Just don't use it on a repeater channel!
Technically you can only use it on channels 1-7, because 8-14 are .5w, and 15-22 are used as the receive for the repeaters.
Great video and review! Thanks a lot!
I appreciate that! There are newer videos also, and quite a few more antenna testing. I also just recorded the newest that is all 771 15" antennas. It will be uploaded this week.
I'm new to GMRS and surprised how hard it is for the radio to reach 10 miles, my cobra 148 from 1995 had much better range but now I need a good handheld GMRS radio.
It's all in the frequency. 10 meter band will talk to Australia from Texas, but that's HAM. Gmrs is good for a starter...
In addition to my last reply, take a look at this video. The Wouxun KG-UV9GX is an awesome radio with a super heterodyne receiver. If you can swing $200 for a radio, this is your guy.... (and click the link in the description, then use the coupon code for 7% off radios $100 or more.)
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Good day,
I hope you’re well. I have a question regarding the Signal Stick antenna. If I mount it on a vehicle, I’m concerned about its flexibility. Would it be able to handle high speeds over long periods without deforming or being damaged by the wind? I’d appreciate your thoughts on this.
Thank you!
@SecretMan299 Well, I personally wouldn't mount a handheld antenna on a vehicle because of the durability issue. There are plenty of antennas that are inexpensive, and also handle more than enough power. My advice is to get a NMO magnet mount and a "32" center coiled 4.5-6db gain antenna for a vehicle. It will talk and receive far more than an HT antenna. But, if you decide to use a handheld antenna, I've heard of guys using the Nagoya 771g. It will flex in the wind, but it's a pretty solid antenna. Actually, the Bandit G 771 from BuyTwoWayRadios (link in that video description) will be a stronger antenna. Let me get the video link for you....
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Have you tried the Kenwood KRA-23M? For a small stubby it does well and is very low profile.
I actually have not. I've heard many good things about it, and my FD radio is a Kenwood (P25), which is amazing. Our old FM freq was also Kenwood, and never had any issues.
I have a TD-H3. I’m looking for a better antenna (if this will help) for the air band. I’d also like a recommendation for a 2M/440 antenna please, thanks!
I don't know anything about tge AM band antenna. I know Radioddity sells AM antennas though. For Ham, Diamond and Nagoya are basically the same company, so Diamind is going to be good. Signal Stuff Signal Stick is a really good company also.
Picked up the ABBREE 771 GMRS antenna today off eBay for $8.99 shipped. It's one of the antennas I wanted to try out.
Both the orange 771c and the standard black 771 perform great. If you are in the U.S., don't forget Amazon too! I have a ton of links for Amazon and coupon codes for major brands in my descriptions. Either Abbree, you will love it!
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Repping Clemson in Texas! Love it!
Man yeah! I'm originally from Augusta, GA, but have a huge family on the SC side also. Gotta love it!
I’m really enjoying this channel, thanks for all this free information! I’m NOT enjoying those orange colors. Guess I’ll deal with it, Row Tyd 😏
Ahhhh! Well, If it's not Clemson Orange, it could be Georgia Red!
@@FirstUnitedTactical oh no! Not them ole DAWGs
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Did you see the video where the guy put the counter poise directly on the SMA threads and screwed on a Signal Stick?
My jaw dropped!
Every antenna tested was an S 4-5 wth static even the SS. Then add the Tiger Tail. The SS went to S9 plus ⬆ and full quieting! I mean when in doubt whip it out! The Tiger Tail that is!!
I have researched and made them. I can't get any change at all, so that's why I haven't done a video yet. I really want to do a field test without, then with to show what they can really do, but I haven't had any luck. I've watch a ton of videos also but still can't get one to work on any of the radios.
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What exact model is that baofeng at the end of the video? Comparing it with the rest, that one stands out a lot, very good reception. Nice video
It's the standard extended range 15.5" that comes with the "value pack UV5R". It's a 2/70 standard ham antenna.
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@@FirstUnitedTactical Yes, I understand you, but I mean if the antenna you are talking about with the baofeng is a particular one. I want to look for that model on the internet and upgrade my walkie.
@alvarogvdltgarcia52 Here is the link for the two pack, but once you get in, click the single pack. That long antenna is the one I used where I said "look at how wiggly this is".
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@@FirstUnitedTactical Ok, thanks. It look like It is an abbree ar-771. Nice performer.
Does the ABBRE work on the Ham Bands ?
I only have my GMRS so I don't transmit on 2/70. I can tell you it receives excellent, but that's normal.
Hey! I got one of these for free with a radio, and tested a perfect 1.0 SWR. I thought it was a fluke but I tested various other antennas and was getting over 5.0 on some, supprisingly the newer UV5R rubber duckies were right around 1.0 also. But dang these ABBREE antennas are awesome and cheap.
I've noticed that the "new" Baofeng radios (UV5r, 5g Plus, 5RH, etc...) all come with a blank extended range like the Abbree. They sure do look a lot like them, but I haven't cut them open to compare. Once I get more of the "orange" Abbree antennas, I will cut them all up on camera to show everyone if Baofeng is in fact partnering with Abbree for their extended....
@@FirstUnitedTacticalare you talking about the short whip style antenna?
@matthewHizzle No, that 15" wiggly extended range antenna. That's the Abbree that's $7.99 and works really well. Is that what you are talking about?
@@FirstUnitedTactical nope that one sucked lol. It’s the same ABBREE you have marked 771, GMRS. I got a perfect SWR reading. I thought it was a fluke but other antennas tested differently. Same SWR/power meter.
@@matthewHizzle What radio did it come with? That's an awesome deal!
Can you test the baofeng uv5G stock antennas at the 5 and 8 mi?
I might buy one. I've got plenty of uv5r's, and the extended range antenna is amazing, even on gmrs.
If you attach a 6 inch wire to that little nobby thumb nut that will give you a little bit of a ground without having to touch the antenna connector.
I forgot I was going to do a video showing how a counter poise will affect the distance! Thanks!
@@FirstUnitedTactical I was referring to your Farsometer 2000 (Surecom sw-102).
@@joeschnell5695 Oh yeah, but it still reminded me of a counterpoise test! I’ve never attached one to the “2000” to show a more accurate reading.
@@FirstUnitedTactical don’t forget that the sw102 came with a metal plate for that reason, at least mine came with one.
@@joeschnell5695 I saw that in another video somewhere, but I don’t have one. I still have the box, but I guess one was never there. I thought about trying to make my own, but there’s that little screw on the side that is supposed to do something…. Attach a wire to ground the ground plate?
How does the TD-H3 compare to the Q10G? Does the Q10 have a cleaner TX and RX.
I'm not gonna say yes outright, because the TD H3 is an awesome radio at its price point. BUUUUUUUT, when you spend $230 on a radio, it will be better than a $39 radio. The Q10g is a heterodyne chip which is far more advanced than the TID, and it does have a cleaner Rx and Tx. It's a far better, more advanced radio than the TID's, but the price is up there. I use the H3 and H8 (rarely Q10) in my videos so I can help us normal consumers find the best budget radio. If you don't mind spending $200, then I would go for the Q10 or the KG-UV9Gx, which is very similar. the Q10 has the old CB channels programmed though (in addition to all the other 6 or 7 bands, if that matters. They both push the same power, and same technology. The Q10g is larger in size than the 9Gx. I am ordering a 9Gx this week because it is a little smaller and not so bulky. I am currently getting set up with a link and coupon code for the 9Gx for 7% off and I should have that info tomorrow. I can send it to you if you would like.
Thanks for the informative response, much appreciated!
The Tidradio extended antenna is for airband frequencies not GMRS. TD-H3 has airband capability to listen to aircraft. It is not meant to be used for gmrs
@garyburns1033 Correct, however there are different packages you can buy. I have 2 different packages, with different antennas. I'm not transmitting on the longer 120 Mhz antenna in any of my videos. Those antennas just collect dust. I only transmit on "440+" or GMRS tuned like Smiley 5/8 and Nagoya 771. I'm glad you wrote that and hope others see this. I was on the first wave of H3 orders, and my first pack didn't even come with the 120. That package came about a month later.
@@FirstUnitedTactical Best Bang for the Buck is the ABREE AR-771G GMRS but I suggest People test them as it’s a crap shoot sometimes. Otherwise The original Nagoya 771 G especially for those who will never test them like we do. Awesome Channel always enjoy watching You Test Radio Gear 👍🏻
@garyburns1033 Thanks Gary! For the longest time my favorite extended range is the Nagoya 771g. Maybe 10 videos ago, (maybe this video), people started telling me to try the Diamond SRJ77CA. I didn't for tge longest time because it was a V/U 2/70 antenna, but when I got it, I was blown away. It's definitely a top contender with the 771g, and sometimes performs better! That Smiley 5/8 Slim Duck 465 is my all time favorite for short antennas tho.
Is the Abree tactical antenna you tested the ar-152 GMRS version that just came out? This looks to be the ham version I bet you the gmrs version would be a lot better
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I bought this tactical one a long time ago, before I knew any better. It's not the GMRS version.
@@FirstUnitedTactical I have not been able to find this antenna in the male versions to work with my radios.
@@grizsgarage Get the M to F adapter on Amazon. I hope I'm understanding you right, this may or may not be the correct adapter, but it's the SMA M to SMA F adaptor: amzn.to/3wQ6N8t
Great video
It seems pretty long for a 440 Mhz, GMRS antenna.
But has a good SWR.
All of the "extended range" antennas are around the 15" mark, but Smiley and Signal make a standard 6". They don't perform as well as a 15", but still work great as a short one. On my Wouxuns, they have the 2/70 antennas, and one is only 8", so why is a Signal Stick (roughly 15" or so)? Each company makes their own long and short, and they all work well. But clearly, size does matter!
Any idea if the ham version of the h3 is either unlocked for gmrs or easily unlockable?
They are very easy to unlock. No software needed.
@@FirstUnitedTactical Ya, i did find a video about that. Looks like unlock is indeed very easy. How has battery life been for you?
@baileymoto it's actually really good. On this particular video, talking for 3-4 hrs, I still had at least 3/4 battery. And that's transmission on high. If it's sitting in my truck all day just scanning, the battery icon still shows full charge. It's better than the $39 I paid. It's now $29 I think. It's by far the best radio you can get for that price. It still has air band Rx, Scramble, tone search, all the goodies. Of course a $150-200 Wouxun will have more features, but you can't beat it for $29. The proof is in this video!
@@FirstUnitedTactical Good stuff, looks like I need to grab one. Recently bought a wouxun s88 and it’s a dud, probably defective. Think I may go back to another cheap radio, heh. Chirp and Bluetooth programming is a big win as well. Will miss the waterproofing…but at that price I’ll just buy another. 😆 thanks again!
Very cool my friend
Thank you! It's fun!
Great experimentation!
Thanks! I will be doing another this weekend with an Wouxun KG-UV9GX and 2 different Smiley antennas.
Go tigers!
My q10 is only putting out 4.5w on the highest setting
Do you have it on Ultra? I know mine does 4.5ish on High, and then 5 at Ultra. They claim 6, but I've never seen it, even on Notarubicons video.
@@FirstUnitedTactical yes it’s on ultra my tid h8 is 7.4w was hoping over 5
@@DaytonaJim78 Honestly you are transmitting better with the Q10 vs the TID. Theres a part at the end that I cut out and didn’t include in the video. The Q10 with the Nagoya 771g and it was almost clear! I didn’t want to shoot the H3 in the foot by showing that, but I can still use it on another video. Wouxun just has a Heterodyne chip that’s far more advanced than a $39 or $50 TID. You can’t tell when the signal is already close and clear, but when you distance, and static, the Q10 really shines and outperforms 10x. Wouxun is a badass company that makes a badass radio. I just ordered the KG-UV9Gx tonight. It’s got just about the same features, but it’s smaller, like a normal 935g. When I talk to the guys on my local repeater 29 miles away, INTO SAN ANTONIO, they say they can hear me like I am standing right next to them, Q10 with 771g. So trust me, it’s a radio that doesn’t mess around! I like the H3 with the Smiley only because it’s tiny and isn’t heavy, which is why I just ordered the uv9gx. I will be doing a video on that pretty quick, which will show even farther range. You got this man!
I would like to see you compare the Q10 and the uv9gx, that would be interesting. The uv9gx is also a superheterodyne I believe.
@@FirstUnitedTactical awesome thanks!
Who is the guy replying back to you ? He sounds exactly like you.
It is me. Watch this video on how I do it.
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Awesome Review video !!!
Thanks Ricky! It's fun
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Is the Abree 771 the same as the Nagoya 771?
Different companies, but yes, the same concept and length. I haven't cut them open to examine the internal wire, but they perform equally.
you film like 30 miles from me, lol
Cool! The base radio was in McQueeney and I worked my down 78 into Cibilo that day.
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Got a couple of these orange Abbrees. Very disappointed! They didn't fit some of my radios. Unfortunately, this includes the popular Tidradio H8. The threaded connector on these antennas is too short. When I used just a little bit of force trying to fully screw it in, it kept turning and the black skirt at the base of the antenna started moving up pretty easily. I thought, aha, that's the trick. Nope! After this, the antenna just stopped working, period. No signal on my field strength meter even with other radios. I hope I didn't damage my radios... I would skip this model. Get a real Nagoya or Smiley. In my experience, Wouxun antennas are pretty good, too.
Woah! I'm sure the radio is fine. I do believe there is an aftermarket antenna in my collection that will also spin freely after that initial tighten area. But it still works. Send'em back! I have 5 Nagoya 771g's and not one has an issue like that.
It always amazes me how the GMRS tribe, is so into the technical aspect of radio stuff. Yet many don't want to get into Ham radio, because they have to take a test!? Its ironic!
I was actually going to take my tech test today, but not able to make it.
@@FirstUnitedTactical I was a CBer as a kid and then went for my tech and now an extra. Having been licensed for over 60 years I am certain that you will enjoy the ham radio hobby. Go for it. N9UU. I enjoy your videos and think they are very informative.
Flat. Open. No trees. Ok.
@@WhiteDoberman welcome to South Texas!
@@FirstUnitedTactical Love it.
Man, blow your nose and stop sniffing during the entire video
I did the field test first.... bad allergies.
@@FirstUnitedTactical Claritin and Nasacort 24/7/365 for me along with high doses of vitamin C N9UU
I don't like tests in wide open spaces. Lots of radios and antennas can go for miles in those environments. What does it do if you're among the trees and hills?
True, but I'm trying to show real transmission results, and honestly South Texas is nothing but flat wide open land. We have some trees that are maybe 40' tall, but the bulk of them are 20' high. It's not a typical environment like it would be in Georgia or Montana. Less than 100 miles west is the desert.
Since everyone also lives in different geographical areas, also look at it as a comparison test from stock antenna to aftermarket antenna. Picture the 5 mile mark, on any of those 3 videos, and listen to the quality difference between the antennas. It doesn't matter if you live in a thick jungle or flat desert, as long as you know the Nagoya or the Smiley performs about 30% better than stock antennas. No matter how you look at it, an aftermarket antenna will get you more range than factory, no matter where you live.
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