Using more q-tips helps it faster. When you soak a coin, there's not any agitation everything kinda stews in place. Use a Q-tip, get some of the glue onto the cotton from the coin an throw it away. Keep using fresh ones. It's like trying to clean grease with a dirty rag, it only smears it. Constantly using fresh cotton will remove bit by bit a lot faster. You can also rub two heads together to get the cotton really fluffy and that really helps pick up big globs of crud when it's peeling. Cross contamination is another issue. When you soak it in a dish, you turn the entire dish into a soup of liquefied glue and acetone. That whole solution is a cesspool. If you put a proof coin in it, you'll see it turn filmy and slimy in seconds. So another piece of advice I always pass on is to always have a "dispenser"! Extremely important. Always have a container that fresh acetone stays in and get's dispensed out. Because say you dip a cottob swab in in the dish with the glue coin... you're getting acetone AND liquefied glue on the cotton. Then you rub it on the coin, the acetone evaporates, and the glue sticks back on the coin. My steps are to first soak the coin in a dish, say 5 minutes, it shouldn't take much more. Then I get a fresh q-tip and fluff the cotton up, and dip that in the dispenser acetone. (Try to keep finger oil off the cotton) Then you take that soaked tip and gently rub it on the coin (hold the coin in hand and do it) youll get like 5% of it off. Then use the other end and throw it away. Grab another one and keep repeating. If you have to soak it again, clean the dish out and put more acetone in. Also you'll have to clean the entire coin, not just the affected area. In the acetone dish, the glue film completely coats the coin. It's more noticable on shiny proofs. Try it out with some 2022 quarters in BU shape. I've done this a lot and made a lot of mistakes thinking that I messed up the coin and ruined it, then kept working at it to bring them back. The keys are just using fresh acetone for every move, and using a vessel to actually draw the substance off the coin. A q tip works perfectly. Contamination and letting it sit in it's own grime is only the first step, and with q-tips, you want the coin in hand and to keep using fresh ones. I buy the costco boxes of them. And for a dispenser I have a "makeup pad dispenser with a pump action to pool the acetone into a little round dish. You can find it in the beauty aisle at shoppers. Then I buy the hardware store cans of acetone to refill it. I do light cleaning with my roll finds. Just to get the hand oil off, and to prevent any toning from setting in.
That's an excellent point about cross-contamination - I hadn't thought about that! I'm always looking for ways to improve my cleaning techniques. And always using fresh acetone and clean q-tips definitely makes sense. Thanks for the detailed explanation! And Merry Christmas to you, too!
I find your RUclips channel very interesting I love when you hunt the coin rolls I prefer hunting smaller denominations like quarters times and nickels for some reason two needs and looneys are is just not my thing but I'm now a newbie coin role Hunter and I love it have a great day James keep hunting
That’s a tough decision! I would probably decide to use the one you just worked on because the color and lettering around the legend are a bit nicer. Great video!
Acetone doesn't harm the surface of the coin, it can only reveal damage/corrosion that was already there under dirt/substances. I don't consider it cleaning at all
Great observation. Safe for metals, and does most of the hard work for you. No real need to apply much in the way of contact. I've seen it eat away other reside with nothing else needed other than a rinse. This glue was pretty hardcore, though, and needed a few rounds and a bit of persuasion!
Keep the one that was in the album, James (I like the color). I have to laugh, I got acetone on my wood topped desk about 3 weeks ago. Well safe to say I need to refinish the top completely now. Luckily it was a used desk when I bought it just for CRH. Merry Christmas to you and your family. And Merry Christmas to all!
I have used acetone on many coins. Definitely helps. Or I suppose you could send your coins for restoration. What do you suppose they use? Ezest or some other chemical hmmmm
I would say the Glue Cent should go back in, less circulation ware as far as I could tell. Thanks for the demo, now I know what to do if I run into this.
I would keep the one you currently have in place in your album. More detail overall. They say to never ever clean coins but when they have something like glue or have been buried in the ground or have other external issues it is appropriate to restore them as best as you can if possible. Nice save!
Coincido plenamente. Un coleccionista es quien conserva. En numismática la conservación lo es todo. Y no es lo mismo limpiar que restaurar. Se restauran piezas muy raras de encontrar y basándose en su antigüedad. Los tasadores valoran sobretodo el estado de conservación, después!! Se valora si fue restaurada o limpiada. Qué indudablemente pierden valor frente a otra que no alteró el estado de conservación e independientemente de su belleza visual. Ahora bien!! Existe el coleccionismo no exigente, es decir todo les vale con tal de tener la pieza. Al final! A base de limpiar se crean colecciones de segunda división frente al coleccionista más exigente. Porque recordemos que la conservación lo es todo. Así que ésto de incorporar a nuestra colección piezas va en cada cuál, en ser más o menos exigentes. Pero siempre cada cuál valorará lo que tiene. Sinembargo también es muy importante que lo que coleccionamos tenga importancia para los demás. Sobretodo si queremos darle el valor añadido de pieza de colección. Cada cuál colecciona lo que quiere, hasta se puede coleccionar papel higiénico. Lo dicho, lo importante es que tenga un valor reconocido por los demás. Dónde el estado de conservación lo es todo. Personalmente me considero un coleccionista exigente . No vale igual algo bien conservado sin haber alterado su estado de conservación. Qué algo que necesitó de una limpieza. Saludos!
@@pesetasjuancarlos1 ¡Muchas gracias por ver el vídeo! Estoy de acuerdo con todo lo que has dicho. Sin duda, me gustaría conservar cualquier moneda en su estado natural; lo mejor es una moneda original. Me complace mucho que los coleccionistas hayan empezado a apreciar el tono (deslustre) de las monedas y, en algunos casos, incluso valoren esas monedas debido a su pátina natural. Algunas monedas raras y hermosas han sido limpiadas con dureza en el pasado (¡incluso a manos de coleccionistas exigentes!) para intentar eliminar el tono natural. En cuanto a estas monedas que he limpiado en mi propia colección, no son raras ni valiosas y, por supuesto, no estaba arriesgando nada, incluso si los resultados no fueron excelentes. ¡Felices fiestas!
@@CADRollHunter Gracias por su atención y respuesta. Toda clase de coleccionismo es bueno, porque en el fondo se trata de conservar. El coleccionismo hay que fomentarlo. Incluso el de segunda división. Es fomentar la demanda del mañana y sus intereses entre otras cosas. Pero sobretodo es que se trate de fomentar la conservación del patrimonio. Ese legado histórico que nos llegó hasta los días de hoy y pueden llegar a días mucho más allá en el tiempo. Se trata de cultura de conservación. Felices fiestas!
They were made with different dies. The album one appears to have an outer row of beads separate from the rim at the two o'clock position, whereas the other coin has denticles attached to the rim. I prefer the higher grade coin you had in the album, maybe it could be conserved.
Great observation! The Royal Mint used several dies in many of the years, resulting in differences in the effigees and some other devices. Lots of varieties for the variety collector!
I like the freshly cleaned coin better, sometimes it helps to place them both along side the other coins in the album to judge eye appeal for your collection. I think the prohibition against cleaning is well intended but we have taken it to far. Novices often clean coins harshly trying to shine rather than just removing dirt. If I feel I can improve the appearance of a coin I will try to fix most anything. The important thing to remember to work towards a natural look for your coin, remember you can always test chemicals on circulation coins.
Very true! I wouldn't try anything on a very expensive rare coin, but a circulation coin or one that's otherwise unsightly... you can't make it any worse, and if you do, the stakes are low!
Feel like that was some industrial strength glue. Person probably thought that only glue that can bond copper to copper was good enough to keep it in the album. I like eye appeal over corrsion pitting. Would use the recently cleaned one in the album.
i thought acetone was only for cleaning silver coins, was told never use on copper as surface will look altered. i know silver coins can be slabbed as long as you do not overdue the scrubbing manipulation. also because acetone eats adhesive, which is exactly what holds the cotton ball on the q-tip, your acetone bath is polluted and that gets thinly smeared on the face of the coin. i bet if you sent it in for slabbing, you would get an altered surfaces verdict. but, yea, nice results anyway given what you started with.
Once you've cleaned the coin with Acetone, you should rinse with clean acetone for exactly that reason - to get the reside you can't see off the coin. You might need to do that a few times. Thanks for watching!
Nice job. Just don't use acetone on any colorized Canadian coins; if the clear coat is gone the colours will bleed off. Ever try Hydrogen Peroxide for corrosion on copper cents?
Very good point - I suspect that acetone would completely dissolve the enamel! I haven't tried hydrogen peroxide for corrosion - certainly something to try in a future video!
Corrosion is lesser appealing if the details of the coin are only slightly different. If the details on the corroded coin are drastically better than the naturally worn coin, I'd keep the env damaged coin in the book. But that's only my 2 cents.
@CADRollHunter love the quotes on cleaned as I don't consider acetone dips as cleaning. If it doesn't noticeably change the natural surface of the coin, it shouldn't be considered a cleaned coin.
Hey, James. I'm new to the channel. I like you. So I love hunting. I've just become a hunter, but I've found some nickels. Canadian that in the relief, the shiny relief when I turn it certain ways. I see, it's like ghostly images in the background. I don't know, have you ever found anything like this? I'm very curious
Thanks so much for watching. That sounds very interesting. What years are you seeing this on, and where on the coin. I'll see if I can find anything similar!
@CADRollHunter hello I'm so glad that you got back to me because the first coin that I found it in was the 1965 nickel and it looks like it has a double die stamp because I was looking to count the bees whether they were small beads or large beads and I noticed it had a ring on the inside so it was like oh something's wrong and the beads were part of the rim so that's where my journey began but it's actually I have a bunch of nickels that I found images in I call them ghosts because there's nothing else I know what to say about them but I'll give you more information when I get them all together and I'll tell you what years like literally I heard you say it's from Southern Ontario or so yeah and I'm from Southern Ontario as well so literally I would mail you one and you could take a look if you and see yourself
Hey James it's me again with those coins that I see I call them ghosts in the background but I'm not sure I'm using the correct terminology as far as what the error is it's like a nickel and then it looks like a ring on the inside its head again so I could send you a picture if you are interested you're not going to be able to see the ghost because you need to put them in the light and turn it ever so subtly to catch in the background but I can send you a picture of what I'm talking about if I'm using the correct terminology like I said I'm a movie at this but I kind of do know what I'm doing but let me know if you're interested
Also James I know that I'm a newbie and I said oh I would send you a coin it's not like I want to send you off one of these coins that I feel like something hasn't even discovered yet cuz I truly feel this way but this to me is such a curiosity I've been no one stopped thinking about it and it's not just Canadian it's all nickels that I found this in though it's all nickels but it's also American nickels as well so I can send you list of everyone that I see a ghost in but I guess do I just keep sending on this
Using more q-tips helps it faster. When you soak a coin, there's not any agitation everything kinda stews in place. Use a Q-tip, get some of the glue onto the cotton from the coin an throw it away. Keep using fresh ones. It's like trying to clean grease with a dirty rag, it only smears it. Constantly using fresh cotton will remove bit by bit a lot faster. You can also rub two heads together to get the cotton really fluffy and that really helps pick up big globs of crud when it's peeling.
Cross contamination is another issue. When you soak it in a dish, you turn the entire dish into a soup of liquefied glue and acetone. That whole solution is a cesspool. If you put a proof coin in it, you'll see it turn filmy and slimy in seconds. So another piece of advice I always pass on is to always have a "dispenser"! Extremely important. Always have a container that fresh acetone stays in and get's dispensed out. Because say you dip a cottob swab in in the dish with the glue coin... you're getting acetone AND liquefied glue on the cotton. Then you rub it on the coin, the acetone evaporates, and the glue sticks back on the coin.
My steps are to first soak the coin in a dish, say 5 minutes, it shouldn't take much more. Then I get a fresh q-tip and fluff the cotton up, and dip that in the dispenser acetone. (Try to keep finger oil off the cotton) Then you take that soaked tip and gently rub it on the coin (hold the coin in hand and do it) youll get like 5% of it off. Then use the other end and throw it away. Grab another one and keep repeating. If you have to soak it again, clean the dish out and put more acetone in.
Also you'll have to clean the entire coin, not just the affected area. In the acetone dish, the glue film completely coats the coin. It's more noticable on shiny proofs. Try it out with some 2022 quarters in BU shape.
I've done this a lot and made a lot of mistakes thinking that I messed up the coin and ruined it, then kept working at it to bring them back. The keys are just using fresh acetone for every move, and using a vessel to actually draw the substance off the coin. A q tip works perfectly. Contamination and letting it sit in it's own grime is only the first step, and with q-tips, you want the coin in hand and to keep using fresh ones. I buy the costco boxes of them. And for a dispenser I have a "makeup pad dispenser with a pump action to pool the acetone into a little round dish. You can find it in the beauty aisle at shoppers. Then I buy the hardware store cans of acetone to refill it. I do light cleaning with my roll finds. Just to get the hand oil off, and to prevent any toning from setting in.
Oh, merry Christmas by the way! I hope you had a wonderful day!
That's an excellent point about cross-contamination - I hadn't thought about that! I'm always looking for ways to improve my cleaning techniques. And always using fresh acetone and clean q-tips definitely makes sense. Thanks for the detailed explanation! And Merry Christmas to you, too!
Thanks for the demonstration. Great results.
Thanks - always fun to peel back the glue and see what's under there!
I find your RUclips channel very interesting I love when you hunt the coin rolls I prefer hunting smaller denominations like quarters times and nickels for some reason two needs and looneys are is just not my thing but I'm now a newbie coin role Hunter and I love it have a great day James keep hunting
Thanks, Samantha! I'm glad you're enjoying my videos! Thanks so much for watching!
Very nice video, ty! I’d like to see how acetone cleans bronze disease, too
In my experience, it will have not improve the effects of oxidation at all - only foreign organic substances.
That’s a tough decision! I would probably decide to use the one you just worked on because the color and lettering around the legend are a bit nicer. Great video!
Thanks so much for weighing in! Happy Holidays!
Have a Happy New Year to you & and your family.
Thanks, and to you as well!
Great Experiment! lol Merry Christmas to you and everyone!
Thanks for watching and Happy Holidays!
the new one seems to look better but id keep both! merry Christmas
Thanks, Aaron!
Interesting video. The acetone did a good job. The coin came out really nice. I would definitely put that in my album.Happy holidays
Happy holidays to you too!
Acetone doesn't harm the surface of the coin, it can only reveal damage/corrosion that was already there under dirt/substances. I don't consider it cleaning at all
Great observation. Safe for metals, and does most of the hard work for you. No real need to apply much in the way of contact. I've seen it eat away other reside with nothing else needed other than a rinse. This glue was pretty hardcore, though, and needed a few rounds and a bit of persuasion!
Yeah it turned out pretty good. It looks good. Something new plus remember that. 👍👍🙂🇨🇦
Thanks for watching!
Keep the one that was in the album, James (I like the color). I have to laugh, I got acetone on my wood topped desk about 3 weeks ago. Well safe to say I need to refinish the top completely now. Luckily it was a used desk when I bought it just for CRH. Merry Christmas to you and your family. And Merry Christmas to all!
Thanks! Merry Christmas to you and your family, too! And now we've got matching (damaged) desks!!
@@CADRollHunter 😂
I have used acetone on many coins. Definitely helps. Or I suppose you could send your coins for restoration. What do you suppose they use? Ezest or some other chemical hmmmm
That's actually a great question. I'd be very curious to know what PCGS or NCG would use to restore coins. MS70 maybe?
I hadn't seen you Queen of Queen Victoria coin before
I would say the Glue Cent should go back in, less circulation ware as far as I could tell. Thanks for the demo, now I know what to do if I run into this.
Thanks for watching!
I would keep the one you currently have in place in your album. More detail overall. They say to never ever clean coins but when they have something like glue or have been buried in the ground or have other external issues it is appropriate to restore them as best as you can if possible. Nice save!
Thanks for your thoughts on that, and for weighing in! Have a great Christmas!
Coincido plenamente.
Un coleccionista es quien conserva.
En numismática la conservación lo es todo.
Y no es lo mismo limpiar que restaurar.
Se restauran piezas muy raras de encontrar y basándose en su antigüedad.
Los tasadores valoran sobretodo el estado de conservación, después!!
Se valora si fue restaurada o limpiada.
Qué indudablemente pierden valor frente a otra que no alteró el estado de conservación e independientemente de su belleza visual.
Ahora bien!!
Existe el coleccionismo no exigente, es decir todo les vale con tal de tener la pieza.
Al final!
A base de limpiar se crean colecciones de segunda división frente al coleccionista más exigente.
Porque recordemos que la conservación lo es todo.
Así que ésto de incorporar a nuestra colección piezas va en cada cuál, en ser más o menos exigentes.
Pero siempre cada cuál valorará lo que tiene.
Sinembargo también es muy importante que lo que coleccionamos tenga importancia para los demás.
Sobretodo si queremos darle el valor añadido de pieza de colección.
Cada cuál colecciona lo que quiere, hasta se puede coleccionar papel higiénico.
Lo dicho, lo importante es que tenga un valor reconocido por los demás.
Dónde el estado de conservación lo es todo.
Personalmente me considero un coleccionista exigente .
No vale igual algo bien conservado sin haber alterado su estado de conservación.
Qué algo que necesitó de una limpieza.
Saludos!
@@pesetasjuancarlos1 ¡Muchas gracias por ver el vídeo! Estoy de acuerdo con todo lo que has dicho. Sin duda, me gustaría conservar cualquier moneda en su estado natural; lo mejor es una moneda original. Me complace mucho que los coleccionistas hayan empezado a apreciar el tono (deslustre) de las monedas y, en algunos casos, incluso valoren esas monedas debido a su pátina natural. Algunas monedas raras y hermosas han sido limpiadas con dureza en el pasado (¡incluso a manos de coleccionistas exigentes!) para intentar eliminar el tono natural. En cuanto a estas monedas que he limpiado en mi propia colección, no son raras ni valiosas y, por supuesto, no estaba arriesgando nada, incluso si los resultados no fueron excelentes. ¡Felices fiestas!
@@CADRollHunter
Gracias por su atención y respuesta.
Toda clase de coleccionismo es bueno, porque en el fondo se trata de conservar.
El coleccionismo hay que fomentarlo.
Incluso el de segunda división.
Es fomentar la demanda del mañana y sus intereses entre otras cosas.
Pero sobretodo es que se trate de fomentar la conservación del patrimonio.
Ese legado histórico que nos llegó hasta los días de hoy y pueden llegar a días mucho más allá en el tiempo.
Se trata de cultura de conservación.
Felices fiestas!
THANKS FOR ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO, MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AND YOURS. EMILE & KATHY FROM CT.
Thanks, Emile and Kathy! Merry Christmas!
They were made with different dies. The album one appears to have an outer row of beads separate from the rim at the two o'clock position, whereas the other coin has denticles attached to the rim. I prefer the higher grade coin you had in the album, maybe it could be conserved.
Great observation! The Royal Mint used several dies in many of the years, resulting in differences in the effigees and some other devices. Lots of varieties for the variety collector!
I like the freshly cleaned coin better, sometimes it helps to place them both along side the other coins in the album to judge eye appeal for your collection. I think the prohibition against cleaning is well intended but we have taken it to far. Novices often clean coins harshly trying to shine rather than just removing dirt. If I feel I can improve the appearance of a coin I will try to fix most anything. The important thing to remember to work towards a natural look for your coin, remember you can always test chemicals on circulation coins.
Very true! I wouldn't try anything on a very expensive rare coin, but a circulation coin or one that's otherwise unsightly... you can't make it any worse, and if you do, the stakes are low!
Good work on the crappy coin, that is a win. However I would still keep the darker one despite its problems!!
Thanks for weighing in! I appreciate you watching!
Feel like that was some industrial strength glue. Person probably thought that only glue that can bond copper to copper was good enough to keep it in the album. I like eye appeal over corrsion pitting. Would use the recently cleaned one in the album.
True enough - it was some strong stuff. I agree with you on the colour and eye appeal. This one wins out, for sure!
I think the one you just cleaned has better eye appeal. If it were my album, I'd put that one in.
Thanks for weighing in!
@@CADRollHunter i would agree with what he said.
i thought acetone was only for cleaning silver coins, was told never use on copper as surface will look altered. i know silver coins can be slabbed as long as you do not overdue the scrubbing manipulation. also because acetone eats adhesive, which is exactly what holds the cotton ball on the q-tip, your acetone bath is polluted and that gets thinly smeared on the face of the coin. i bet if you sent it in for slabbing, you would get an altered surfaces verdict. but, yea, nice results anyway given what you started with.
Once you've cleaned the coin with Acetone, you should rinse with clean acetone for exactly that reason - to get the reside you can't see off the coin. You might need to do that a few times. Thanks for watching!
Cool!
I would soak the coin in warm water to see if the glue would dissolve before using acetone to remove the rest of the gunk.
I think that's great advice. The acetone had a hard time getting through that paper to begin with.
You're brave, James. Bully for you!
Thanks! I didn't think I could make it any worse!
Nice job. Just don't use acetone on any colorized Canadian coins; if the clear coat is gone the colours will bleed off. Ever try Hydrogen Peroxide for corrosion on copper cents?
Very good point - I suspect that acetone would completely dissolve the enamel! I haven't tried hydrogen peroxide for corrosion - certainly something to try in a future video!
@@CADRollHunter I'd suggest starting with a diluted Hydrogen Peroxide.
Corrosion is lesser appealing if the details of the coin are only slightly different. If the details on the corroded coin are drastically better than the naturally worn coin, I'd keep the env damaged coin in the book. But that's only my 2 cents.
Thanks for your thoughts on this. In this case, I think the details aren't so much better, and the eye appeal is better on the 'cleaned' one!
@CADRollHunter love the quotes on cleaned as I don't consider acetone dips as cleaning. If it doesn't noticeably change the natural surface of the coin, it shouldn't be considered a cleaned coin.
Whoever says _never clean a coin_ has never seen that cent.
Lol! Very true!! There's no way I can make it worse!!
Hey, James. I'm new to the channel. I like you. So I love hunting. I've just become a hunter, but I've found some nickels. Canadian that in the relief, the shiny relief when I turn it certain ways. I see, it's like ghostly images in the background. I don't know, have you ever found anything like this? I'm very curious
Thanks so much for watching. That sounds very interesting. What years are you seeing this on, and where on the coin. I'll see if I can find anything similar!
@CADRollHunter hello I'm so glad that you got back to me because the first coin that I found it in was the 1965 nickel and it looks like it has a double die stamp because I was looking to count the bees whether they were small beads or large beads and I noticed it had a ring on the inside so it was like oh something's wrong and the beads were part of the rim so that's where my journey began but it's actually I have a bunch of nickels that I found images in I call them ghosts because there's nothing else I know what to say about them but I'll give you more information when I get them all together and I'll tell you what years like literally I heard you say it's from Southern Ontario or so yeah and I'm from Southern Ontario as well so literally I would mail you one and you could take a look if you and see yourself
Hey James it's me again with those coins that I see I call them ghosts in the background but I'm not sure I'm using the correct terminology as far as what the error is it's like a nickel and then it looks like a ring on the inside its head again so I could send you a picture if you are interested you're not going to be able to see the ghost because you need to put them in the light and turn it ever so subtly to catch in the background but I can send you a picture of what I'm talking about if I'm using the correct terminology like I said I'm a movie at this but I kind of do know what I'm doing but let me know if you're interested
Also James I know that I'm a newbie and I said oh I would send you a coin it's not like I want to send you off one of these coins that I feel like something hasn't even discovered yet cuz I truly feel this way but this to me is such a curiosity I've been no one stopped thinking about it and it's not just Canadian it's all nickels that I found this in though it's all nickels but it's also American nickels as well so I can send you list of everyone that I see a ghost in but I guess do I just keep sending on this
Keep the one u got. The other one has the damage from the glue over the years
Thanks for watching and for tuning in!
Saw a comment on Hydrogen Peroxide for coppers and saw it really does help with corrosion.
Something to try for sure!!
Beans
cleaning coins are never recommended
Don't' do it! NEVER!!
Try the acetone on the other coin, then compare
Great idea!
Clean the carosion coin.
I've had a few suggestions on how to do that - I could give them a try. Acetone won't likely improve that one. Thanks for weighing in!
cleaned one is better
Thanks!!
NEVER CLEAN COINS
It ruins them forever
I suppose you could also say "Never glue coins into an album." That might to worse harm! Thanks for watching!
Whats gonna happen to a coin when its its already kind of destroyed@TismCoinHunts
Horrible cette voix robotisé !!!!
Eh bien, c'est un nouveau. Qu'est-ce que tu trouves de robotique dans ma voix ?