I had the Infinity Machine pop up in the same game where the Loop event happened, which changed it: The Infinity Machine said something about the Loop mentioning us and that the Loop will help him in order to bring back some "Civilisation". Then you get the option to give it some Energy and Minerals and upon doing so it dissapears and the black hole gets a modifier that some strange lifeforms "bask in the radiation", giving it a +20 Society research.
i have the same brief from that annoying ball machine. i think it related with the horizon signal, that i stoped the event chain when i executed one of my scientist. maybe.
I read that only the infinity machine in Gargantua OR the Horizon Signal can occur in the galaxy. Perhaps they dropped that interaction? In recent games, I've hacked into it as a materialist, which gives a long term research bonus IIRC without the long wait or risking lame options
I just found the infinity machine yesterday. My options for dealing with it were: 1.) Blow it up. 2.) Declare it to be a holy monument. 3.) Talk to the damn thing. I chose 3.
Don't know if this is mentioned in any way shape or formed but meh, here goes. I'd like to think that the first ending to this story is an error in the "equation". They wanted to solve the equation of Infinity and with the help of you somehow solved it. Or at least they think, confident in their answer, they traverse Gargantua and ultimately never realized the error and were destroyed, thus explaining the parts of the sphere floating around the black hole. Though it could be something else. The other ending being they and you have perfected infinity and are able to traverse the black hole with their mission complete. Rewarding your universe with visual evidence of Multiverse's, other than the "Unbidden". Would've been cool if we saw the Unbidden universe, ravaged in a dark realm of destruction.
@@merchskele7507 Maybe, if not then it'll either be DLC or a mod. Closest we got is a mod that adds "fractured worlds" with void beasts if you colonize them like the madlad you are.
i am insanely lucky, i got the pantagruel the first time i done the quest for the infinity machine. i thought thats how it was supposed to happen,didnt knew you can fail and get other results.
If you encounter the Machine while the Horizon Signal event chain is active, you will be given a different option. Taking it also destroys the Machine, and adds a +20 biology modifier to Gargantua.
@@mrspidey80 I think you're referring to "Deep Space Travels", some of it's sessions are evidently inspired by Hans Zimmer's work on the Interstellar soundtrack
Heya, thanks for the video. FYI, There's an option if youre a fanatic materialist to hack the CPU instead of contacting it. (playing it now) Runs a event chain "hacking the calculator" which requires a lvl 5 scientist. End of which, if successful (can it fail? not sure) the infinity machine will self-destruct, but you get a 3% buff to all sciences.
It can fail, which leads to it asking you to please stop trying to access it's memories. There is two options to respond "...I apologize" and "we do what we must". I just found out about it on an iron man game, and apologized, so I don't know what the other option entails.
I am trying for the achievement and one time I got it to ask me stop trying to get into it's memories, and the other time i got the buff. I'M CONFUSED I JUST WANT TO TALK
I just recently got this one in my game. And I got the best end result! Though it was a bit further away from main territory, but not too far. So I managed to easily put the science station on it ^^
I built a habitat AND a matter decompressor in Gargantua once, letting the infinity machine keep doing its thing, keeping it around as a tourist attraction for visitors to Gargantua Station.
I had to wage two long and bitter wars with an equally powerful empire as my own just so i could finally finish this damned questline, as it ended up inside the territory of a warrior race i created for one of my earlier playtroughs. The first time the peace treaty did not last long enough for my scientist to finish, the second time i took the system where it was.
You may want to update this video thanks to the Horizon Log/message/whateverit'scalled update, after I completed that questline and my entire species was transformed The Infinity Machine recognised my empire and told me that "I resemble their creators" it then threw itself in the black hole and now that black hole has an output of 20 society research points. It's possible that other Leviathans such as the Automated Dreadnought or the Enigmatic Fortress will recognise me now but I have yet to encounter either. (I should mention that you have to complete that quest line before you encounter the Levianthans in order for them to recognise you)
Hunter Stonechild I got something similar. I am just about to end the Horizon signal event and I found the Infinity machine on the other side of the universe. It contacted me on the spot and mentioned the Loop and that it told it about my people. The machine asked me for some resources... because it wants to recreate its creators called "Brief". After receiving the resources it blew up and created some kind of life around the black hole. The black hole is too far away for me to benefit from. So I basically got nothing. Maybe it changes the Horizon story in some way? IDK
Mine exploded and I got the Sentient AI tech and The Singularity Processor modifier (3% research boost). I'm a Materialist and I got the chance to hack it, I succeeded. Not sure if I'd prefer the 10% research boost instead because it's so difficult to get all the hacking event chains.
The Infinity Machine should just have absurd Evasion and some kind of gravity weapon from studying Gargantua and just kind of stroll through your Empire no-selling everything you throw at it and instant-killing every one of your ships and stations it encounters until it's effectively grounded your civilization before returning to its spot. Really, the Leviathans DLC is lacking in proper creativity. There should have been planet-bound Leviathans like SCP-169, living ecosystems on massive spaceborne creatures that act as small, mobile habitable worlds, bio-mechanical relic ships and other shit. I suppose a Leviathans II would be very well received.
Man ... Do you have to reload from before the research finishes or can you reload right before the machine enters the black hole? I'm alternating between two saves now for many many hours and I still always get the +4 science reward.
Lord Shadoko That combined with the Geth Consensus. The Excession's gimmick was responding in kind to others. Shoot it, it shoots back an order of magnitude stronger. This isn't a nomadic universe in a pokeball, just a robot planet.
Materialistic empires can also try to hack the machine to pry its secrets off. It usually fail, and it closes the event chain anyway, but you can get some nifty bonuses.
What are the chances for the infinity machine forming the mini universe? Also does the game decide what outcome will occur before or after it reaches the black hole?
DeU5 All praise the Infinity machine. I wonder if there should be a part where you or another species treats it as a god and will defend that, preventing you and others from researching it, that would be interesting.
3:55 umm, shouldn't that ship be slowing down the more and more it gets to the black hole. And WHY is the black hole named after the same black hole from interstellar?
redstoneactive5 Well one: Video game logic...I guess. And two, maybe because of its size, naming it "Gargantua" is a more fitting name then just "Gargantuan".
That moment when you find this thing and you freak out because you dont know what it is or what it will do.... Then he starts talk and its just like oh.... Best friend :3
you missed the fact that materialists can try to hack into its memory banks. I was hoping to learn the outcome of that as i didn't take that option out of fear i'd piss it off
It never tried contacting me after it sends the signal into the black hole. I decided to try hacking it and was successful. It gave me some bonuses for it, but eventually realized what happened and self destructed.
Just grabbed the game and in my second game gargantua spawned 3 systems away from my homeworld. Did the research with a rank 4 scientist and got pantagruel. Now, im playing the "here there be dragons" origin and the dragon is still lounging on my planet eating all my food so git pantagruel very early on. Glad to get that boost right away. (Wenkwort also spawned 5 systems away from me and 4 away from pantagruel so ive got that going. The null void doorway opened in wenkwort and theres a relic world with the rubricator digsites 3 systems in the opposite direction from pantagruel.. All in all ive got a very great start going for me. This is all on a huge 1000 system map so kinda surprising ive got all it right on my doorstep. Lol)
Your joking right? I think I got the very rare event the first time I met the infinity machine, though I did get killed by the endgame event as it was the machine event and it started right next to my home planet.
I have had the Infinity Machine do the complete the calculation and merge with the black hole long after I had finished helping it. So, there may be a timer on it too?
It would be useful to add all the names of this machine, like technosphere too. I searched by this name and others(wiki is lackluster), but I didnt find your video. RUclips showed me "by chance". And thank you.
First time getting the infinity machine got the rare ending cam eback to this video kinda sad that the chain doesnt continue or you cant explore the new universe/continue helping the machine in its travels
if you are materialist (i have only tried with fanatict materialist) you can hack it, i have succeded 2 out of 2 attepmts, so i dont know if you can fail or what happens then, but when you hack it you get +3% investigation speed and the technology for the setient ai
You forgot one more thing about this. If you are a Materialists after it contacts you. You can chose to hack it. Hacking it will cause it to self destruct and give you AI research and a +3% to all research. I know this as the Inifinity Machine spawned next to my home world. So in the first 25 years. I had that and was to scared to build robots. Because of the AI uprising.
Me and my friend are actually on it. But he's at a more advanced state than me because I'm the first who find this thing but the last to receive the pop-up quest. I suppose it's him who will receive bonus, even if I search too?
I have been reloading a saved game right before the five year research is complete for about 1 whole day without giving up. I would please like some help if im doing anything wrong.
Someone in the comments said something about being fanatic materialist helping. I haven't tested, so I can't vouch for the accuracy of that, but it might be true.
I refresh between two saves for two days now, one is one day before the research finishes and one is one day before the machine goes into the black hole and I still haven't got anything more than the +4 research reward when it goes into it.
I like how if you try to pull the Liar’s Paradox on the Infinity Machine, its response is “Cute. But no.”
I need to draw the infinity machine with huge milkers now
@@Laucron what.
@@MadToxin2876 Just massive mommy milkers
@@jakelee5096 again, what
Massive Ara are energy
I had the Infinity Machine pop up in the same game where the Loop event happened, which changed it: The Infinity Machine said something about the Loop mentioning us and that the Loop will help him in order to bring back some "Civilisation". Then you get the option to give it some Energy and Minerals and upon doing so it dissapears and the black hole gets a modifier that some strange lifeforms "bask in the radiation", giving it a +20 Society research.
i have the same brief from that annoying ball machine.
i think it related with the horizon signal, that i stoped the event chain when i executed one of my scientist.
maybe.
I read that only the infinity machine in Gargantua OR the Horizon Signal can occur in the galaxy.
Perhaps they dropped that interaction?
In recent games, I've hacked into it as a materialist, which gives a long term research bonus IIRC without the long wait or risking lame options
Again, I am impressed at how Stellaris can be so good.
i wonder how someone couldn't be
lets just hope they fix all the Bugs now
Though it is cumbersome, it lacks quality of life features.
Yeah its great. But unfixed bugs are killing the game
@@seffard it's been adding more
Materialist empires can attempt to hack the Machine.
yeah I was a materialist empire and I tried to hack it but I didn't have a level 5 sci leader at the time.
Helping the machine gives 5% science buff, hacking gave me only 3%
I got the 10% research bonus and 3 times 10 research. It's very nice
I hacked and it told me to not do that and gave me nothing
+Mystic Void7x9 yup, means you ended the story, though you can shoot it like a loot piñata.
I just love the idea and creativity of this thing
I just found the infinity machine yesterday. My options for dealing with it were:
1.) Blow it up.
2.) Declare it to be a holy monument.
3.) Talk to the damn thing.
I chose 3.
Answer the is 2
''THIS STATEMENT IS FALSE!'' Brilliant hahaha!
Um? False. I'm gonna go false. Huh- that was a pretty easy one.
lostfan10000 I love you.
It goes well with your avatar lol
seffard lmfao
could you please explain
The entire Infinity Machine chain is a better plot and reward than No Man's Sky. I guess that's what happens when TARS sets intelligence to 100%.
Alex FRD what about no mans sky in 2019
Sheeporama same it’s really fun :D
It got better after the NEXT update
@@catisbetterthandog4688 same answer
Seeing as to how much No Man's Sky has improved, this comment is quite outdated
Don't know if this is mentioned in any way shape or formed but meh, here goes.
I'd like to think that the first ending to this story is an error in the "equation". They wanted to solve the equation of Infinity and with the help of you somehow solved it. Or at least they think, confident in their answer, they traverse Gargantua and ultimately never realized the error and were destroyed, thus explaining the parts of the sphere floating around the black hole. Though it could be something else. The other ending being they and you have perfected infinity and are able to traverse the black hole with their mission complete. Rewarding your universe with visual evidence of Multiverse's, other than the "Unbidden". Would've been cool if we saw the Unbidden universe, ravaged in a dark realm of destruction.
Or even be able to invade them as well, for that as that would be awesome in my opinion.
@@merchskele7507
Counter invasion would be neat.
@@TeamOneDay think there is a mod out there for that?
@@merchskele7507
Maybe, if not then it'll either be DLC or a mod. Closest we got is a mod that adds "fractured worlds" with void beasts if you colonize them like the madlad you are.
@@TeamOneDay is the name of that mod called fractured worlds?
i am insanely lucky, i got the pantagruel the first time i done the quest for the infinity machine. i thought thats how it was supposed to happen,didnt knew you can fail and get other results.
Lord Inquisitor Ninoslav same
When story in some part of game is more interesting than the entire story of some game. . .
5:00 TIMES UP LETS DO THIS. LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEROY
Most underrated comment ever
btw you sir, are a genius!
Jeeenkinns!
Militarist empires can send an army on the sphere to look for a self destruction button,
Spiritualists can worship it for a 5% happiness bonus
And empires can Talk to it..to talk to it..
Materialists can hack it to get the postronic ai tech which gets you +5% research speed
If you encounter the Machine while the Horizon Signal event chain is active, you will be given a different option. Taking it also destroys the Machine, and adds a +20 biology modifier to Gargantua.
3:36 This statement is false.
ROFl
Oh no the Paradox.
the easter egg is that it's from paradox interactive so it might mean something
So instead of choosing to communicate with them I decided to to worship them lol.
doesn't even work :C
Johiah plays games NO.
Roflcopter
I had the non secret ending,
and I wanted to follow the infinity machine.
A black hole names Gargantua? Someone's been watching interstellar...
One of the games music pieces has strong Interstellar vibes too. Not to mention that the devs adopted the movie's visuals for their black holes.
mrspidey80 no, that's just how black holes look like as said by many trusted physicists
@@mrspidey80 I think you're referring to "Deep Space Travels", some of it's sessions are evidently inspired by Hans Zimmer's work on the Interstellar soundtrack
@@mrspidey80 listening to that song right now XD
The Life of Gargantua and of Pantagruel is a pentalogy of novels written in the 16th century by François Rabelais ... git learnt :)
I got a militaristic one that basically gives me 4000 minerals and 250 influence periodically.
*Nowhere to go but infinity.*
I love this leviathan, the only thing I don't like though is that there are A TON of ways this will fail, and you will never get the Universe Mirror.
Delightfulpie
Yeah, it's RNG based sadly...
Also I don't think it's a leviathan.
I managed to get the mirror the first time I found this thing in my game.
Not more then a few hours back. XD
simply save right before you finish the research project and reload until you get it
@@TeamOneDay Late I know. But yes, it is a Leviathan/Guardian
@@tommoss-the-prank-engine3578
Cheers lol.
Lucking out and getting Pantagruel really saved my ass in my last game.
Heya, thanks for the video.
FYI, There's an option if youre a fanatic materialist to hack the CPU instead of contacting it. (playing it now)
Runs a event chain "hacking the calculator" which requires a lvl 5 scientist.
End of which, if successful (can it fail? not sure) the infinity machine will self-destruct, but you get a 3% buff to all sciences.
It can fail, which leads to it asking you to please stop trying to access it's memories. There is two options to respond "...I apologize" and "we do what we must". I just found out about it on an iron man game, and apologized, so I don't know what the other option entails.
I am trying for the achievement and one time I got it to ask me stop trying to get into it's memories, and the other time i got the buff. I'M CONFUSED I JUST WANT TO TALK
I got this three systems from my starting location, welp.
This seems to be a referance to "Excession" by Iain Banks.
L4r5man That orb is DEFINITELY an excession.
Banks is tiresome as hell. If I wanted to hear endless rants about the glories of communism, I'd hang out on a college campus.
I just recently got this one in my game.
And I got the best end result!
Though it was a bit further away from main territory, but not too far.
So I managed to easily put the science station on it ^^
I built a habitat AND a matter decompressor in Gargantua once, letting the infinity machine keep doing its thing, keeping it around as a tourist attraction for visitors to Gargantua Station.
I had to wage two long and bitter wars with an equally powerful empire as my own just so i could finally finish this damned questline, as it ended up inside the territory of a warrior race i created for one of my earlier playtroughs. The first time the peace treaty did not last long enough for my scientist to finish, the second time i took the system where it was.
So if this doesn't summon the black hole leviathan...I wonder what does?
Yeah, it comes on its own.
You may want to update this video thanks to the Horizon Log/message/whateverit'scalled update, after I completed that questline and my entire species was transformed The Infinity Machine recognised my empire and told me that "I resemble their creators" it then threw itself in the black hole and now that black hole has an output of 20 society research points. It's possible that other Leviathans such as the Automated Dreadnought or the Enigmatic Fortress will recognise me now but I have yet to encounter either. (I should mention that you have to complete that quest line before you encounter the Levianthans in order for them to recognise you)
+Hunter Stonechild I'm aware of these lines. I'll address them in the horizon signal video.
Hunter Stonechild I got something similar. I am just about to end the Horizon signal event and I found the Infinity machine on the other side of the universe. It contacted me on the spot and mentioned the Loop and that it told it about my people. The machine asked me for some resources... because it wants to recreate its creators called "Brief". After receiving the resources it blew up and created some kind of life around the black hole. The black hole is too far away for me to benefit from. So I basically got nothing. Maybe it changes the Horizon story in some way? IDK
It's not every day you find such a sympathetic orb.
when I did this event I succeeded in helping it out it went through the black hole and it gave me sentient AI as a reward
Mine exploded and I got the Sentient AI tech and The Singularity Processor modifier (3% research boost). I'm a Materialist and I got the chance to hack it, I succeeded. Not sure if I'd prefer the 10% research boost instead because it's so difficult to get all the hacking event chains.
interesting, cuz what i got after finishing the whole chain is +4 enginner,physic and society points in the back hole and sentinent AI Technology
The Infinity Machine should just have absurd Evasion and some kind of gravity weapon from studying Gargantua and just kind of stroll through your Empire no-selling everything you throw at it and instant-killing every one of your ships and stations it encounters until it's effectively grounded your civilization before returning to its spot.
Really, the Leviathans DLC is lacking in proper creativity. There should have been planet-bound Leviathans like SCP-169, living ecosystems on massive spaceborne creatures that act as small, mobile habitable worlds, bio-mechanical relic ships and other shit. I suppose a Leviathans II would be very well received.
I figured there was more to it than what seemed a successful outcome that one game! Thanks for this video.
There is a spiritualist option to just worship the thing and gives a +5% happiness bonus to the empire which is nice for my *few* slaves
Man ...
Do you have to reload from before the research finishes or can you reload right before the machine enters the black hole?
I'm alternating between two saves now for many many hours and I still always get the +4 science reward.
before research otherwise it wont work. bdw it is iesier with console commands
what console command?
the fast research one
So it's basically the sphere from "Excession" ?
+Lord Shadoko basically
Lord Shadoko That combined with the Geth Consensus. The Excession's gimmick was responding in kind to others. Shoot it, it shoots back an order of magnitude stronger.
This isn't a nomadic universe in a pokeball, just a robot planet.
Darn I thought you could play in the new Galaxy once you beat the one you're in.
I’ve got this event like 50 plus times and have never had the option to talk to it
The Infinity Machine has been there before time itself. maybe.
Materialistic empires can also try to hack the machine to pry its secrets off. It usually fail, and it closes the event chain anyway, but you can get some nifty bonuses.
3:51 Interstellar Easter-Egg (Gargantua). Is this just a random name for a black hole or is it tied to the event itself?
+TTTMusic it's tied to the event.
Ancient Ai sphere? that reminds me about the one in "Nexus the Jupiter Incident" ^-^
What are the chances for the infinity machine forming the mini universe?
Also does the game decide what outcome will occur before or after it reaches the black hole?
How many ships constitutes a big fleet? I dunno how to read into SKULL as a power level.
30k.
The infinity machine spawned next to the eldritch horror. Man I wanna see them fight lol.
The fact that this mini-quest actually got me emotional as fuck proves that this is a fantastic game.
DeU5
All praise the Infinity machine. I wonder if there should be a part where you or another species treats it as a god and will defend that, preventing you and others from researching it, that would be interesting.
That can actually happen if you're a spiritualist; you declare it a divine instrument and that's that.
3:55 umm, shouldn't that ship be slowing down the more and more it gets to the black hole. And WHY is the black hole named after the same black hole from interstellar?
redstoneactive5
Well one: Video game logic...I guess.
And two, maybe because of its size, naming it "Gargantua" is a more fitting name then just "Gargantuan".
I think it’s creepy. Like imagine just running into a metal sphere in the middle of nowhere.
That moment when you find this thing and you freak out because you dont know what it is or what it will do....
Then he starts talk and its just like oh.... Best friend :3
So...
A giant black sphere orbiting a giant black sphere?
Jaja, nice Interstellar easter egg
They say that no one can crack it yet one of their scientists is the right lvl
you missed the fact that materialists can try to hack into its memory banks. I was hoping to learn the outcome of that as i didn't take that option out of fear i'd piss it off
Can someone confirm if pentagruel only triggers when having the Fanatic Materialist ethos?
It never tried contacting me after it sends the signal into the black hole. I decided to try hacking it and was successful. It gave me some bonuses for it, but eventually realized what happened and self destructed.
who knew something hat sounds so cool would turn out being so boring
Did I miss the part where, as a Spiritualist empire, you can just declare it a sign of the divine for +5% empire happiness?
I regularly save scum to get the best outcome here amd I am not even ashamed of having to do the whole process over each time
so, it looks like you want a start with a black hole nearby... :)
Thought it was a death star but he was a really nice guy.
It gave me sentient AI when it ran into the black hole.
Just grabbed the game and in my second game gargantua spawned 3 systems away from my homeworld. Did the research with a rank 4 scientist and got pantagruel. Now, im playing the "here there be dragons" origin and the dragon is still lounging on my planet eating all my food so git pantagruel very early on. Glad to get that boost right away.
(Wenkwort also spawned 5 systems away from me and 4 away from pantagruel so ive got that going. The null void doorway opened in wenkwort and theres a relic world with the rubricator digsites 3 systems in the opposite direction from pantagruel.. All in all ive got a very great start going for me. This is all on a huge 1000 system map so kinda surprising ive got all it right on my doorstep. Lol)
Now I'm interested to the infinity machine...
Slightly creepy? It's adorable! I'm excited as a five year old every time i meet it in a game!
So the first time I encountered it, it was next to my home, and I got the best ending.
hey, so when i tried to do this the only option i get is to hack it, and idky, but if i hack it it either blows up or tells me to go away, what now
Never got the help option though :|
Thank you for this. I was always too afraid to try and attack it because of how intimidating it looked and I always play Ironman mode. :P
I guess being nice pays way better than being a determined exterminator
Your joking right? I think I got the very rare event the first time I met the infinity machine, though I did get killed by the endgame event as it was the machine event and it started right next to my home planet.
this is what I call a very interesting storyline.
If you are fanatic materialist you can hack the main hard drive and take everything ince the sphere is research
I have had the Infinity Machine do the complete the calculation and merge with the black hole long after I had finished helping it. So, there may be a timer on it too?
it can be less time if use a level 9 scientist best contacting the orb after getting most science and leader benefits , also greater chance of success
I hope the other Leviathans are more frightening.
Yeah that Cthulu thing is really annoying.
hmm, there is also another event chain where you board IM with troops...
Every time I get to start hacking it, it just closes back up. Is it because I’m a hive mind?
so how does this mix with the signals horizon event and the whole loop bitt?
Holy crap first try and my infinity machine birthed a new universe and I'm only in year 40 :D
It would be useful to add all the names of this machine, like technosphere too. I searched by this name and others(wiki is lackluster), but I didnt find your video. RUclips showed me "by chance". And thank you.
First time getting the infinity machine got the rare ending cam eback to this video kinda sad that the chain doesnt continue or you cant explore the new universe/continue helping the machine in its travels
Very friendlyy i would call the infinity machine
I got Pantagruel early on in the game and I'm researching things like it's nothing
if you are materialist (i have only tried with fanatict materialist) you can hack it, i have succeded 2 out of 2 attepmts, so i dont know if you can fail or what happens then, but when you hack it you get +3% investigation speed and the technology for the setient ai
Uhhhh..... I did it and mine went a bit differently. The infinity machine was called "retainer"
You forgot one more thing about this. If you are a Materialists after it contacts you. You can chose to hack it. Hacking it will cause it to self destruct and give you AI research and a +3% to all research. I know this as the Inifinity Machine spawned next to my home world. So in the first 25 years. I had that and was to scared to build robots. Because of the AI uprising.
Gargantua! That's the black hole in Interstellar
Me and my friend are actually on it. But he's at a more advanced state than me because I'm the first who find this thing but the last to receive the pop-up quest. I suppose it's him who will receive bonus, even if I search too?
I have been reloading a saved game right before the five year research is complete for about 1 whole day without giving up. I would please like some help if im doing anything wrong.
"Dude, your getting an OoGhiJ MIQtxxXa!"
When I finish the research the sphere goes to the black hole and nothing happens. It just sits inside it for months. Is this a glitch?
The Black holes name is 'Gargantua' as in the one from interstellar? noice!
So getting the new universe achievement is up to luck....
Someone in the comments said something about being fanatic materialist helping. I haven't tested, so I can't vouch for the accuracy of that, but it might be true.
So i accidentally closed the dialog box without making a choice, had to restart my save. Luckily I was in the early but it sucks.
I know that the final 'universe' ending is rare, but I've been refreshing constantly using an old save for over an hour and I still haven't seen it :(
I refresh between two saves for two days now, one is one day before the research finishes and one is one day before the machine goes into the black hole and I still haven't got anything more than the +4 research reward when it goes into it.
Did they change something in the last patch as I am no longer able to get the best reward.
I met this little fella*, we worked together to complete his mission.
*spoiler warning: he is not little, nor a fella.
I think mine needed to be level 5, but I could be remembering incorrectly.