@@TheProofWithSimonHillStill he said the main defenition of a healthy diet is the low energy content - despite of the diet. By that defenition, any anorectic diet should be fine. Furthermore, he claimed that "extra carbs turn into saturated fat". I'd love to see him discussing with Cyrys Chiabatta (Ph.D. from Mastering Diabetes). He even said thar the only sane and enjoyable way to treat T2D is a restriction of carbs and calories. 2 hr Interview without one mention of GLP-1 enhancing fiber and ad libitum low fat WFPBD!
@@soilikasanen It is obvious, that "By that defenition, any anorectic diet should be fine." is a too low energy content diet. And sure, it would be good to be proven, that keeping a good (low enough) energy is the single most important factor for being healthy.
@@clownbackpainrick6581 A calorie restricted chocolate cookie diet (developed in a study funded by meat industry) wasn't a healthy one, although participants lost weight a same amount than in calorie restricted intervention (lean beef) diet.
@@soilikasanenhe’s right and I’m the proof of it. I have reversed my diabetes by going on an ultralow (20g total carbs per day) and eating only real food. I eat both meat and plenty of non starchy vegetables.
Another fascinating discussion. The concept of individual fat threshold blew open my head. I am a retired scientist who studied liver cancer metabolism but I had never considered this concept of liver fat metabolism and T2D. Yikes! I am an exercising, slim ( low BMI) woman with test indications of preT2D. Bingo! Thanks for the revelations!
Amazing interview Simon. As someone who was told that I am destined to get t2d in my 30s since all my family members had it, my trigs were 160, LDL 150 and fibroscan showed 67% of liver fat I can especially appreciate it. In 4 months I went to zero (0%) liver fat, trigs 42 and LDL and apoB both in low 60s. A1c 4.6% Nobody is destined to get t2d. My recipe was calorie deficit (in my case plant based high protein diet combined with cardio and weightlifting).
@@GlennMarshallnz pretty much what dietary guidelines say but my protein sources are seitan, tofu, tempeh, tvp, mock meats and my dairy source is calcium fortified soy milk.
@@metalrunner4398 Hi, thanks for your response. So are you 100% plant based, or do you consume some animal products and if so what? My LDL is over 300 and triglycerides are at 80. I’m 53 good weight and do HIIT cardio x3 times per week and strength training x3 per week as well. I’ve switched to a WFPB diet plus calcium fortified unsweetened soy milk plus one small can of sardines in water each day for omega 3, b12, and iodine. I’m hoping to more than halve my results in three months time. Regards Glenn
@@GlennMarshallnz I am 100% pb but I do supplement with algae oil (DHA/EPA). Also, I occassionally do eat mussels since I am purely ethical vegan so have no trouble eating non sentient animals.
I bought doctor Taylor’s audible book, this makes the most sense I’ve been a diabetic 35 years. Drastically reducing my calories for 10 weeks makes so much sense. My a1c went from 13 to 6.5 .
Thanks for the advice. But as a person with insulin resistance and pre diabetes, why are a lot of these videos always talking about people who don’t have insulin resistance or diabetes talking about how to reduce their chances, which is fine, but we need more videos on how to reverse diabetes for those people who already have it.
You reverse it by totally cutting out Carbs and Sugar it will take many years though A1C will show you as not diabetic within a few months but that's just a simple indicator doctors rely on to much to get rid of insulin reistance will take a good few years sticking to Zero Carbs and Zero Sugar if your lucky, and there are loads of video's on it Search Keto or Carnivore etc.. not hard to find i have Watched hundreds of hours of high up doctors, Professors, PHD's talking on the matter, then there are people like this guy who just seem to like to muddy the waters
Well, you're in lick. This video clearly says how. Do it under medical supervision. That is very important. Listen to the whole video. Roy Taylor is one of the few people who understand the difference between populations and individuals.
Excellent interview. So great to hear both the interviewer and the interviewee talking at a normal rate. It really helps the listeners to assimilate the knowledge imparted.
This was so informative, educational, and interesting. Many thanks Simon and many thanks to the good professor. I always understood/thought that yo yo dieting was bad as some reputable people like Layne Norton have said that it messes with the metabolism in a way that can accelerate fat rebound faster with every yo yo cycle. And worse, can make it harder to lose the regained fat. You end up having to cut calories more and more to lose the same amount of fat that you could previously more easily lose with a higher calorie consumption, all other things being equal. One solution is reverse dieting but sometimes in people who have yo yo dieted for so long they literally have to reverse diet for a long time and endure the increased fat increase, to “fix” their metabolism so when they go on a fat loss phase again, it becomes easier to again lose fat without having to drastically cut calories Also, I know Professor Taylor touched on BMI as being an imperfect measure. While the measure is commonly still used, it is recognized that BMI index has to be modified for certain populations. Case in point: The way BMI is calculated for South Asians is different to the way in which it is calculated for people with a European background. The reason for this is that South Asians have been found to be more at risk of the problems of being overweight such as type 2 diabetes and heart disease. The BMI cut offs for South Asians as it relates to what is consderef healthy BMI are much lower Below 18.5 is Underweight 18.5 to 22.9 is Healthy weight Anything over 22.9 is considered unhealthy
Yes, this audio is great. I listen again and sincerely appreciate the conversation. Hopefully, there will be more to come on this topic. Thank you for this episode! 😎👏🏻
An other person to interview on the topic of reversing Type II diabetes is Marty Kendall of @OptimisingNutrition He’s got the proof, the data, and the testimonials. Please, bring him on as an interview guest!
Regarding cgms, are you saying that someone who is pre-diabetic wouldn't benefit from understanding which foods causes glucose spikes and understanding what their average glucose is over time even if it's not 100% accurate? How is it more accurate for someone who is diabetic? Are you suggesting that they're more accurate for people with diabetes? And you and mention body fat percentage yet? Most bf% scales aren't 100% accurate either. But if you're measuring yourself at the same time you get a pretty good idea over time. So how is that better? Even using calipers isn't 100% accurate and it depends on who is measuring. It seems to me the fear of using technology like a CGM is overblown. What's the risk versus benefit analysis? What's the worst that could happen.
@@jameshunt7884 I watched a lot of videos, read a lot of papers, and a few books. I basically did a lot of trials with various types of low carb food. Then healthy fat - olive oil, nuts, fish etc. then starting log in 10000 steps a day.
EPIC conversation and one with real world health implications for me. My entire family has Type II and my HB1ac isn't great despite strength training for 20 years and being an endurance athlete. When I was truly WFPB I was down at 56kg - only 3kg higher than my 18 year old weight, which is likely extra muscle anyway. So back I go to 56kg and hope societal sitgma about being a thin male doesn't effect me as much in my 30s as it did in my 20s. Also it's interesting why Indians have that history of famine. It wasn't natural and it was entirely because of the British empire: ruclips.net/video/z8Qv7zZBxq8/видео.htmlsi=qoJO6ohhvw0miwdh. You are born with your genes & you have to do the best, but it feels really unfair when the gun was loaded against you by colonists
This advice worked for me. I was Keto-ish and lifting weights, I ate a lot and my weight stayed essentially the same and so did my A1C. I started eating carbs but focused on total calories and lost weight and my A1C dropped into the normal range.
@@098anne Uhhhhhhhhhh ketio-ish just means lowered carb intake. Kinda, sorta like reduced fat vs. fat free. LOL. Not eating carbs will lower blood sugar but, losing weight is far and away more effective in lowering A1C no matter what you eat. That is the takeaway, not if you are actually in ketosis or not. Find something better to do with your time other than splitting hairs with strangers on the web. Life is short.
Your intrinsic, inquisitive nature for knowledge and information in order to enhance health outcomes and benefits has, once again, brought out the best of your guest. Beyond his theoretical education, his unambiguous and practical advice should provide a stimulus to everyone to be mindful of the "Twin Cycle Hypothesis" and the ensuing "metabolic devil"!
This guy has a wealth of knowledge! QUESTION for Simon. I’m a father of a 6yo T1D and our family is vegetarian. So the way carbs react to his BG is very important. You asked the Dr if there was an advantage to eating your protein before you eat your carbs. I don’t think he really addressed this fully. Should he be eating the protein on his plate before the carbs? He will devour his fruit first because he loves fruit. Thoughts?
I also recommend that you ask this question to the Mastering Diabetes folks as well. They do live shows on RUclips frequently and check the chat for questions. Here is the link: youtube.com/@MasteringDiabetes?si=MQ0fAS3F9-ckWWnc
Dr Taylor’s work is truly amazing. However, I’m not sure it has all the answers. When we consider that remission is defined as an A1C below 6.4, whilst this might be below the diagnosis threshold, anyone with an A1C above 5.7 (and arguably that is a high number), is definitely unwell! So, the weight loss definitely helps but it does not seem to fix the underlying problem.
"After weight loss, some people are returned to a state of glucose metabolism that is clearly normal, whilst others achieve an HbA1c which is nondiabetic (
Congratulations for the guest that you invited! I like a lot dr. Roy Taylor. I have his book. Respectfully i will disagree about min 44. In my opinion you can better understand someone's metabolic status besides the tradicional markers cited. For example I like to use kraft test (insulin curve after 75 gr glucose) . CGM also agre
Also aggregate because you can understand if your personal diet is in some moment of the day spiking your glucose (and subsequently insulin level). MRI also helps in showing to patient the relative subcutaneous x visceral fat - something very well explained by dr. Sean Omara.
Interesting that the longest remission case he followed is only 19 years. I wonder how old that person is. I would be interested for you to speak with a researcher who can discuss with you the specific phenomenon of diabetes that comes with old age even without accumulating weight. Also old age hypertension and other metabolic old age issues that often happen absent of weight gain (sometimes even with weight *loss*)
Hi Sean, older people have longer time to damage their metabolism/tissue through false lifestyle. This is a possible answer to your suggestion. >>DOI: 10.1111/j.1464-5491.2005.01655.x Are insulin resistance, impaired fasting glucose and impaired glucose tolerance all equally strongly related to age
I want to add: Anything that can destroy your liver, and pancreas function can lead to diabetes, for example Medicine, Pesticides food, Poison, too much Alcohol, Chemotherapy, Toxicity, Smoking, etc.
Simon - This seems extraordinary. A 100% cure for Type 2 Diabetes for 5 out of 6 people!! ( You simply must lose 8 or 10 kilos...and make the decision to keep the weight off). That seems like such a simple question...do you want to be diabetic of not? ( it all depends on the individual and whether they are willing to simply control their weight ). Why isn't this information being broadcast on all major channels and endorsed by all the doctors??
The medical profession is jaded. Underfunded and faced with patients lacking motivation For me, being briefly labelled "diabetic" was sufficient motivation to lose a quarter of my bodyweight but even with near-perfect metrics, being over- 60, the medical profession will not leave me alone and tried offering me statins at one point and recently ignored what I told them about massive anxiety and claimed to see an upward trend in BP based on no real history and a handful of white coat readings... Four years and 25 kilos from my last bad blood glucose reading I recently benefited by being given covid and flu vaccines I would otherwise not have been entitled to in the UK . The UK population based QRISK calculator even adds 1 percent to heart risk based on POST CODE !
This is one of those chicken / egg arguments. Are you fat because of your blood sugar problems or are your blood sugar problems because you are fat. I think it's the former. People are eating hundreds of grams of carbohydrates every day when the actual requirement for dietary carbohydrates is ZERO. Not one single gram ever. There are no essential carbohydrates. Your body requires zero glucose input. If you are a diabetic why would you eat one single gram of carbohydrate? Seriously. Why are you doing that? Yet we are told to eat it all day long and everyone is drowning in insulin, which we know both drives fat and prevents utilizing it. There is no need to complicate Type 2 diabetes. It is elevated blood glucose. That's it. That is how it is defined, diagnosed, measured and managed. All of that excess blood glucose comes in via your mouth. Stop putting it in your mouth and how do you have elevated blood glucose? You don't. Diabetes is not a disease. It's a poisoning. Glucose poisoning. There is no 'cure' because there is nothing to cure. Your body is being forced to deal with a flood of glucose that it neither requires nor desires. It's super east to test - stop eating it and see what happens. I can tell you from experience. You get skinny and every single health problem you have goes away. No pills, no procedures. Stop eating carbohydrates. That's it.
Thank you Simon for introducing us to this marvelous doctor. This talk really helps to decipher all the misconceptions about diabetes on social media You’ve become my fact checker in a sense.
Thank you for this informative interview Simon. I found it interesting to understand important nuances in each individual in terms of how glucose and fat are stored. Loved listening to his experiment descriptions to understand how much weight loss is needed to reverse type 2 diabetes. A great podcast to jumpstart a new health journey or to understand how we might help each other improve health.
I previously found your channel through the channel called nutrition made simple. These two channels it really helped me understand an Unbiased viewpoint to temper my knowledge of the whole food plant-based diet. It was good that I follow the channels for that Diet because I’m a be healthy. There is some misinformation in there though and this helps clear it up. This doctor seems to be pretty well Excepted as an authority on the mechanism of diabetes and trial tested solutions and decent size groups it
Thank you so much for this conversation! That topic was my dissertation subject. So fascinating. And here so perfectly explained! I maybe think the exercise contribution is a little bit underestimated (as well as the specific fat composition of the diet) based on what I could read while researching.
1:35:23 I found this answer fascinating... 1:35:53 Prof Roy Taylor: "Overnight you'll put out 10 grams per hour [glucose] for the average man, in average health. But with diabetes you are putting out about 15g /hr. So it's not to do with the food. You're looking at metabolism determining the blood glucose level." Lol, I listened to an anti-carbs video where the argument given was that seeing a healthy person has a total of 10 grams of glucose in the blood (in the whole body), you don't need more than 10 grams of glucose from your diet 😊
I do not get, what you want to express with that. In the above section you write g/hr and down you write gramms only. If it is 10 gramms per hour both, that what is the difference?
@@clownbackpainrick6581 They were confusing the body function of keeping blood glucose levels at a constant (eg 10g), to the amount of glucose utilised over time. Ie, they left out metabolism from the argument, just said the whole body has 10g in the blood, therefore only need a couple of teaspoons worth of sugar.
Hi Friends, Curious to know - which part of our recent conversation did you find the most engaging? Also, if there are any other questions you have in mind about this topic, just leave them below. I'll ensure they're included in our next chat.
Sounds like the whole video could be summed up in three sentences: Stop eating processed "food":, stop eating refined "food" (sugar, oils, fat etc..) , stop eat fatty food, and start eating food that we were all meant to eat. Sounds like Whole Food Plant Based to me. Eat properly and dramatically lower your risk of ever contacting any of the "diseases" that unfortunately and unnecessarily plagues most of the world's population today.
Sounds good. I don't eat any processed oils except for every third or forth week I might make popcorn with organic popcorn kernels I buy, and then I add a teaspoon of flax seed oil so that my spices that I also add will stick to the popcorn . I also add a little apple cider vinegar for some extra sticking power as well. I easily eat three handful of nuts a day. I use a seed grinder and grind up flax seed, chia seed, a brazil nut, peanuts, sunflower seeds, sesame seeds. pumpkin seeds and throw in just a little amount of stevia I get from my garden - not necessarily the same every time. I've heard that too many nuts can make you put on weight, but it doesn't work for me. I have trouble putting on weight so I started eating ground nuts and seeds to put on weight - I've never seen a change But I now have a taste for all these nuts - I love them. I guess I'm lucky? I can eat alot and not put on weight. I'm a 63 year old male and weigh around 135 lb naked. Plus, I workout 6 times a week and use the elliptical machine 5 days a week. I'm small but very strong for my size. Basically I'm bone and muscle - very low fat. My wife says that I have way too much energy all the time (especially for my age) but she's comparing me to the normal population. It's so sad to see people continuously hurt themselves. Here is a prime example of how people think: If you were in a friends house, had a big holiday meal and offered to do the dishes, what would the host say to you if they saw you pouring all the warm and hot leftover fat and grease down the kitchen sink - they'd explode! They'd get very upset because you could be plugging up their drains in the house. But, remember, the fat and grease that you just poured down the kitchen sink drain is the very same fat and grease that everyone just finished pouring down their own drains (mouths). They care more about plugging the kitchen drain than they do about plugging up their own arteries. I just don't get it... Again I say, it's so sad...
Plant based whole food diet kept my obese mother obese. It wasn't until she went back to butter, organic beef, chicken & a sprinkling of low carb veggies did she finally lost 150lb.
How one could gain weight by eliminating all processed oils, fats and sugars from their diets is beyond me. I believe that your mother was not strictly eating WFPB. She was probably eating the "vegan" diet that included processed foods that contain huge amounts of hidden fats, oils, sugars and chemicals. Most bags of chips that you can buy at the local corner store are vegan, but they contain 17 percent calories from oil and fat - just look at the grease on your fingers after eating only a few. People on any diet can lose weight if they restrict calories, but are they getting the necessary calories and nutrients from the food that they are eating. Yes, people can lose weight by eating animals but they are slowly blocking their veins, arteries and capillaries with fat - fat they will cause many many health issues down the road. There are many ways to lose weight - cancer chemo drugs are very good at it. Losing weight does not necessarily equal gaining health. One should concern themselves with eating the correct food for our species, and losing weight will be one of the many healthy side affects derived from eating correctly. Please have you mother reconsider her decision and have her eat strictly whole plant based foods.
@@docbegone1716 because for 75 years the USDA had been advocating grains, potatoes, corn, etc. My mother stayed fat on her beloved shredded wheat, oatmeal with banana, steamed veggies, an almost fat free chicken breast, etc. The woman never brought sugary cereals inside the house. We didn't have white bread. She didn't buy Hostess, etc. I was raised from a very young age to read labels because she didn't eat pork. She stayed fat on the food pyramid = plant based & she preferred whole foods, yet that didn't help. One should NOT remove all fats from one's diet. Our entire endocrine / hormonal system relies on them. Bedridden, I was able to get my mother from above 350 down to just over 200 on quality meats, butter, her beloved coffee & low carb veggies. Humans did not develop on plant based diets.
SO annoying to hear this constant "carb" bashing over and over. There is a huge difference between doughnuts and cake, and beans or flax meal. Taylor doesn't appear to get it, even when specifically prodded. Okinawans of old consumed 60%+ of whole carbs and diabetes incidence was very low. And their cardio-vascular health was great. And they lived longer than pretty much any other population.
I follow Mastering Diabetes and Prof. Roy Taylor's guidance, dropped 33lbs, A1c came down to pre-diabetes range. Vigilance is the key, however, like "Cypher", I reenter the "Matrix" on occasion and have a taste of forbidden food, it usually takes a week to fight my way back to goal weight, fortunately my sugar doesn't skyrocket, exercise?
Amazing interview! Really enjoyed it, thank you. He must be right - food is a toxic substance when taken in excess, regardless of it’s macronutrient content. Never thought about it in this way.
Great interview. I was familiar with his thesis but you took him to all sorts of places I’ve never heard him go before. He didn’t miss a beat and I learned a lot. I’d love to have a cup of tea with him but I’d pass on the powdered milk packets. 🤣
im an example of the normal-ish BMI range (only 8lbs overweight when diagnosed), but I have T2. As soon as I lost about 25lbs, down to 165lbs, my blood glucose has largely regulated. I still get fairly wild spikes but my HbA1C is below range (generally post-prandial 5.8-6.1).
This was a really great interview. I learnt a great deal about type 2 diabetes and how to live to reduce the chances to developing it. Thank you Simon and Roy 👍
6:45 I don’t understand how, if “fat stops the insulin producing cells from working properly” (presumably meaning insufficient insulin) on the cycle on the right causing blood glucose to rise, insulin is happily being released in sufficient quantities on the left to convert blood glucose to fat.
I have a question about insulin. Do we produce the same amount of insulin if blood glucose rises are flatter when we combine foods to mitigate the spikes. For example, eating white rice on it's own would proabably cause a higher glucose rise than if you combine the rice with meat and non-starchy veg. But because we are ingesting the same amont of refined carbs, do we still need the same amount of insulin or is it less as glucose won't rise as fast? Hope that makes sense?!
Great discussion. What of liked more in depth talk on the type of fatty acids and how they affect the liver and inflammatory pathways. Long-chain fatty acids, particularly saturated fats like C16 (palmitic acid) and C18 (stearic acid) are associated with type 2 diabetes. These fatty acids undergo metabolism within the body, leading to the formation of lipid intermediates like diacylglycerol (DAG) and ceramides. This metabolic process can activate protein kinase C (PKC), disrupting insulin signaling pathways and contributing to insulin resistance. Inflammatory pathways also come into play, particularly with palmitic acid activating the nuclear factor-kappa B (NF-KB) pathway. This activation leads to the production of pro-inflammatory cytokines, such as tumor necrosis factor-alpha (TNF-a) and interleukin-6 (IL-6), contributing to chronic inflammation associated with insulin resistance. Contrastingly, unsaturated fats, including monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats, exhibit different metabolic effects. They are less prone to forming lipid intermediates and do not activate PKC to the same extent as saturated fats. Additionally, they promote lipid oxidation and help prevent the accumulation of lipids in tissues from what I've read.
Waist Hip Ratio is also a very good predictor of risk of type 2 diabetes! Waist Hip ratio is a good indicator of amount of organ fat and Prof. Taylor’s have demonstrated that that’s one of the major causes of type 2 diabetes. All you have to divide your waist circumference to your hip circumference.
Surely fasting insulin is the only test needed to see if someone has reached their fat threshold. Although, from what I've heard, they have set the acceptable level too high. Much higher than what Joseph Kraft recommended.
Only 12% of his studies are diabetes free after some considerable time lapse. So weight management needs to be an in built habit and not an intervention it seems.
Great YT. really good data on exercising fasted … I run 3.5mi fasted for fat and 2.5 before dinner for glucose control … just see,med like a good idea … appreciate the validation
Much better . Its still there but thanks for your effort . One thing that might have helped if you noticed when he started talking during the interview is to ask him to move the mic away from the front of his mouth .
I heard of Roy's work soon after being diagnosed with T2D. I was one of the lucky ones - picked up early and now in remission. So I probably owe him my health. I didn't bother with meal replacements though (for one thing I'm not wealthy) just eliminated added sugar and the problematic grains and went for a daily walk. Which lead to the needed weight loss.
A lot of great questions you asked aa always!! Thank you. In Japan there is type 2 diabetes due to aging - decrease of insulin and some other factors. I am afraid of that as my father has it. I want to keep insulin sensitivity up. I wonder how..Any insights???
@@TheProofWithSimonHill Thank you! T2D solution often goes to weight loss. I am trying to build muscles and telling my father too. I love all sort of exercise. I used to feel guilty taking out time from work or saying no to meetings with my clients. But now I say "medical neccesity for my physical & mental" !!
Thank you Professor Taylor . Greetings from Singapore. I love your book. It is on my Audible and Kindle. Inspirational and enlightening. I limited my food intake to 800 calories per day and lost weight and reversed my diabetes in early 2022. Thank you and I hope the world will adopt your twin cycle hypothesis and the results to treat diabetes.
Hi Joe, what were your markers at baseline and where are they now ? (weight, waist circumference, LDL, HDL, fasting bloog glucose, HbA1c...) In the original direct study there were 89 participants. After the 12 weeks of 800 kcal per day there were 50% into T2D remission. A follow up for 5 years showed that only 11 participants (12%) were T2D free. What are in your mind the most important factors, why most people cannot stick to a healthy diet. As in this case they had diabetes and did feel the bad outcomes. Then they got the "wonder" to be diabetes free, but most of them could not stick to it...
This is full of it I have Type 2 and BMI was 45.9 i have been in ketosis for months my BMI is 35.0 now and still going down and let me tell you i still have Type 2 Diabetes, Im just masking my Type 2 by totally cutting out Carbs+Sugar, but According to Toy Taylor if my BMI goes from 45 to 40 i wont have Type 2 lol, im not saying it cannot be reversed in the long term thats my goal and dream but its not as simple as he thinks and even if i do manage to reverse it i certainly wont be going back to a 55%-75% Carb diet that has been pushed since the late 70's carbs should be 5-10% max in a healthy person
Peter Rogers MD (YT channel) covers toxicology as the elephant in the room even in Whole Food Plant Based diets. The careful consumer can mostly avoid hyperpalatable foods that are excitotoxic to the brain, although MSG (and 'regrettable replacements') is hidden in our modern food labeling scheme as "Natural Flavor."
At 1:22:00 he said getting rid of diabetes but then whole video suggests remission for few years and it will return...so it won't cure the issue just put to sleep for few years ??
It would be nice, when there is a success rate (after 10 years maybe) of 80%. But what is the alternative? Is there a better one, that has more than an 11% remission (profen). And I guess the others, who are not in remission do better than the control group. A profen (randomized controlled trial) alternative for remssions does not exist. The alternative classic path is: you are put on drugs...
So glad to see you interview him. I love what you wrote, that he has fundamentally changed our understanding of this disease. What a great interview.
His super power is studying mechanisms and using that to develop studies that look at hard health outcomes.
@@TheProofWithSimonHillStill he said the main defenition of a healthy diet is the low energy content - despite of the diet. By that defenition, any anorectic diet should be fine.
Furthermore, he claimed that "extra carbs turn into saturated fat". I'd love to see him discussing with Cyrys Chiabatta (Ph.D. from Mastering Diabetes).
He even said thar the only sane and enjoyable way to treat T2D is a restriction of carbs and calories.
2 hr Interview without one mention of GLP-1 enhancing fiber and ad libitum low fat WFPBD!
@@soilikasanen
It is obvious, that "By that defenition, any anorectic diet should be fine." is a too low energy content diet.
And sure, it would be good to be proven, that keeping a good (low enough) energy is the single most important factor for being healthy.
@@clownbackpainrick6581 A calorie restricted chocolate cookie diet (developed in a study funded by meat industry) wasn't a healthy one, although participants lost weight a same amount than in calorie restricted intervention (lean beef) diet.
@@soilikasanenhe’s right and I’m the proof of it. I have reversed my diabetes by going on an ultralow (20g total carbs per day) and eating only real food. I eat both meat and plenty of non starchy vegetables.
Another fascinating discussion.
The concept of individual fat threshold blew open my head.
I am a retired scientist who studied liver cancer metabolism but I had never considered this concept of liver fat metabolism and T2D.
Yikes!
I am an exercising, slim ( low BMI)
woman with test indications of preT2D.
Bingo!
Thanks for the revelations!
Amazing interview Simon.
As someone who was told that I am destined to get t2d in my 30s since all my family members had it, my trigs were 160, LDL 150 and fibroscan showed 67% of liver fat I can especially appreciate it.
In 4 months I went to zero (0%) liver fat, trigs 42 and LDL and apoB both in low 60s. A1c 4.6%
Nobody is destined to get t2d.
My recipe was calorie deficit (in my case plant based high protein diet combined with cardio and weightlifting).
Congrats on taking control of your health!
Hi, congratulations and well done. What does your average daily diet consist of?
@@GlennMarshallnz pretty much what dietary guidelines say but my protein sources are seitan, tofu, tempeh, tvp, mock meats and my dairy source is calcium fortified soy milk.
@@metalrunner4398 Hi, thanks for your response. So are you 100% plant based, or do you consume some animal products and if so what? My LDL is over 300 and triglycerides are at 80. I’m 53 good weight and do HIIT cardio x3 times per week and strength training x3 per week as well. I’ve switched to a WFPB diet plus calcium fortified unsweetened soy milk plus one small can of sardines in water each day for omega 3, b12, and iodine. I’m hoping to more than halve my results in three months time. Regards Glenn
@@GlennMarshallnz I am
100% pb but I do supplement with algae oil (DHA/EPA). Also, I occassionally do eat mussels since I am purely ethical vegan so have no trouble eating non sentient animals.
I bought doctor Taylor’s audible book, this makes the most sense I’ve been a diabetic 35 years. Drastically reducing my calories for 10 weeks makes so much sense. My a1c went from 13 to 6.5 .
Good job... congrats 🎉
How u doing now
Hi I’m doing great I keep my carbohydrates low calories about 1700 lost 40 pounds. Blood sugar 80 -120 Average. A1C still hovers at 6.2 😊
@paulbainjr good effort from new Zealand
35 years been diabetes and u changed that quickly
Thanks for the advice. But as a person with insulin resistance and pre diabetes, why are a lot of these videos always talking about people who don’t have insulin resistance or diabetes talking about how to reduce their chances, which is fine, but we need more videos on how to reverse diabetes for those people who already have it.
You reverse it by totally cutting out Carbs and Sugar it will take many years though A1C will show you as not diabetic within a few months but that's just a simple indicator doctors rely on to much to get rid of insulin reistance will take a good few years sticking to Zero Carbs and Zero Sugar if your lucky, and there are loads of video's on it Search Keto or Carnivore etc.. not hard to find i have Watched hundreds of hours of high up doctors, Professors, PHD's talking on the matter, then there are people like this guy who just seem to like to muddy the waters
Well, you're in lick. This video clearly says how. Do it under medical supervision. That is very important. Listen to the whole video. Roy Taylor is one of the few people who understand the difference between populations and individuals.
Interviewing actual researchers is the best.
I've learned a lot.
Thanks
*You Did Not Choose To Be Classified As Diabetic, But You Can Choose To Fight Back Against Diabetes* 💪
Thanks a lot because of interviewing such brilliant scientist which is a very unique characteristic of your podcast 🙏🌷👌
Thanks for listening
Excellent interview. So great to hear both the interviewer and the interviewee talking at a normal rate. It really helps the listeners to assimilate the knowledge imparted.
Glad you enjoyed it!
First class interview & detailed & relevant discussion - lots of ‘wow’ moments & expertly communicated. Thank you both. :)
Simon is an outstanding interviewer. Knowledgeable, well read, and excellent manner of leading the discussion and allowing the guest to talk!
He really is!❤
This was so informative, educational, and interesting. Many thanks Simon and many thanks to the good professor. I always understood/thought that yo yo dieting was bad as some reputable people like Layne Norton have said that it messes with the metabolism in a way that can accelerate fat rebound faster with every yo yo cycle. And worse, can make it harder to lose the regained fat. You end up having to cut calories more and more to lose the same amount of fat that you could previously more easily lose with a higher calorie consumption, all other things being equal. One solution is reverse dieting but sometimes in people who have yo yo dieted for so long they literally have to reverse diet for a long time and endure the increased fat increase, to “fix” their metabolism so when they go on a fat loss phase again, it becomes easier to again lose fat without having to drastically cut calories
Also, I know Professor Taylor touched on BMI as being an imperfect measure. While the measure is commonly still used, it is recognized that BMI index has to be modified for certain populations. Case in point:
The way BMI is calculated for South Asians is different to the way in which it is calculated for people with a European background.
The reason for this is that South Asians have been found to be more at risk of the problems of being overweight such as type 2 diabetes and heart disease.
The BMI cut offs for South Asians as it relates to what is consderef healthy BMI are much lower
Below 18.5 is Underweight
18.5 to 22.9 is Healthy weight
Anything over 22.9 is considered unhealthy
Yes, this audio is great. I listen again and sincerely appreciate the conversation. Hopefully, there will be more to come on this topic. Thank you for this episode! 😎👏🏻
I hope so too!
Am typing this as I'm listening. I like your format of summarising everything he's saying after every few points. Very helpful. Subscribed.
Me too!
An other person to interview on the topic of reversing Type II diabetes is Marty Kendall of @OptimisingNutrition
He’s got the proof, the data, and the testimonials.
Please, bring him on as an interview guest!
Regarding cgms, are you saying that someone who is pre-diabetic wouldn't benefit from understanding which foods causes glucose spikes and understanding what their average glucose is over time even if it's not 100% accurate? How is it more accurate for someone who is diabetic? Are you suggesting that they're more accurate for people with diabetes? And you and mention body fat percentage yet? Most bf% scales aren't 100% accurate either. But if you're measuring yourself at the same time you get a pretty good idea over time. So how is that better? Even using calipers isn't 100% accurate and it depends on who is measuring. It seems to me the fear of using technology like a CGM is overblown. What's the risk versus benefit analysis? What's the worst that could happen.
Yes I did reverse mine naturally and went medicine free through proper nutrition, exercise, and stress management.
How u getting on now did u fallow dr ken berry to
@@jameshunt7884 I watched a lot of videos, read a lot of papers, and a few books. I basically did a lot of trials with various types of low carb food. Then healthy fat - olive oil, nuts, fish etc. then starting log in 10000 steps a day.
@yeti9127 what foods share more please .. stuff you did
He has a great voice. He should read for audio books
I think so too!
He really does, I love his accent.
No! It’s too perfect.
He narrates his audiobook
EPIC conversation and one with real world health implications for me. My entire family has Type II and my HB1ac isn't great despite strength training for 20 years and being an endurance athlete. When I was truly WFPB I was down at 56kg - only 3kg higher than my 18 year old weight, which is likely extra muscle anyway. So back I go to 56kg and hope societal sitgma about being a thin male doesn't effect me as much in my 30s as it did in my 20s.
Also it's interesting why Indians have that history of famine. It wasn't natural and it was entirely because of the British empire: ruclips.net/video/z8Qv7zZBxq8/видео.htmlsi=qoJO6ohhvw0miwdh. You are born with your genes & you have to do the best, but it feels really unfair when the gun was loaded against you by colonists
Superb interview and guest. Half way through it and learning so much. Cheers
Great to hear!
This advice worked for me. I was Keto-ish and lifting weights, I ate a lot and my weight stayed essentially the same and so did my A1C. I started eating carbs but focused on total calories and lost weight and my A1C dropped into the normal range.
@@DetroitHomeInspector uhhhh..there is ketogenic and non-ketogenic. There is no “ish” and any expectation of it working.
@@098anne Uhhhhhhhhhh ketio-ish just means lowered carb intake. Kinda, sorta like reduced fat vs. fat free. LOL. Not eating carbs will lower blood sugar but, losing weight is far and away more effective in lowering A1C no matter what you eat. That is the takeaway, not if you are actually in ketosis or not.
Find something better to do with your time other than splitting hairs with strangers on the web. Life is short.
@@DetroitHomeInspector thank you for sharing
Great interview. A lot of simple, practical advice.
Would be nice if the full transcripts of your interviews was available on your website.
Transcripts would be FANTASTIC!
Coming soon!
@@TheProofWithSimonHill much appreciated.
Absolute brilliant from Professor Taylor. No BS or dogma.just evidence based proof.
Your intrinsic, inquisitive nature for knowledge and information in order to enhance health outcomes and benefits has, once again, brought out the best of your guest. Beyond his theoretical education, his unambiguous and practical advice should provide a stimulus to everyone to be mindful of the "Twin Cycle Hypothesis" and the ensuing "metabolic devil"!
This guy has a wealth of knowledge!
QUESTION for Simon.
I’m a father of a 6yo T1D and our family is vegetarian. So the way carbs react to his BG is very important. You asked the Dr if there was an advantage to eating your protein before you eat your carbs. I don’t think he really addressed this fully. Should he be eating the protein on his plate before the carbs? He will devour his fruit first because he loves fruit.
Thoughts?
I also recommend that you ask this question to the Mastering Diabetes folks as well. They do live shows on RUclips frequently and check the chat for questions. Here is the link: youtube.com/@MasteringDiabetes?si=MQ0fAS3F9-ckWWnc
Dr Taylor’s work is truly amazing. However, I’m not sure it has all the answers. When we consider that remission is defined as an A1C below 6.4, whilst this might be below the diagnosis threshold, anyone with an A1C above 5.7 (and arguably that is a high number), is definitely unwell! So, the weight loss definitely helps but it does not seem to fix the underlying problem.
"After weight loss, some people are returned to a state of glucose metabolism that is clearly normal, whilst others achieve an HbA1c which is nondiabetic (
Audio is great, thank you. Looking forward to listening to this later. Thanks again for all the amazing conversations. I learn so much.
Thanks for listening
Congratulations for the guest that you invited! I like a lot dr. Roy Taylor. I have his book.
Respectfully i will disagree about min 44. In my opinion you can better understand someone's metabolic status besides the tradicional markers cited. For example I like to use kraft test (insulin curve after 75 gr glucose) . CGM also agre
Also aggregate because you can understand if your personal diet is in some moment of the day spiking your glucose (and subsequently insulin level). MRI also helps in showing to patient the relative subcutaneous x visceral fat - something very well explained by dr. Sean Omara.
This was such a great interview. What an amazing man Roy is!
Interesting that the longest remission case he followed is only 19 years. I wonder how old that person is. I would be interested for you to speak with a researcher who can discuss with you the specific phenomenon of diabetes that comes with old age even without accumulating weight. Also old age hypertension and other metabolic old age issues that often happen absent of weight gain (sometimes even with weight *loss*)
No weight gain just fat gain
@@trotskyite1 no, there are many old people who get diabetes late in life even with very little fat.
@@Seanonyoutubelittle dietary fat??
@@harvinderubhi5540 I was talking about body fat
Hi Sean,
older people have longer time to damage their metabolism/tissue through false lifestyle.
This is a possible answer to your suggestion.
>>DOI: 10.1111/j.1464-5491.2005.01655.x
Are insulin resistance, impaired fasting glucose and
impaired glucose tolerance all equally strongly
related to age
I want to add: Anything that can destroy your liver, and pancreas function can lead to diabetes, for example Medicine, Pesticides food, Poison, too much Alcohol, Chemotherapy, Toxicity, Smoking, etc.
Simon - This seems extraordinary. A 100% cure for Type 2 Diabetes for 5 out of 6 people!! ( You simply must lose 8 or 10 kilos...and make the decision to keep the weight off). That seems like such a simple question...do you want to be diabetic of not? ( it all depends on the individual and whether they are willing to simply control their weight ). Why isn't this information being broadcast on all major channels and endorsed by all the doctors??
The medical profession is jaded. Underfunded and faced with patients lacking motivation
For me, being briefly labelled "diabetic" was sufficient motivation to lose a quarter of my bodyweight but even with near-perfect metrics, being over- 60, the medical profession will not leave me alone and tried offering me statins at one point and recently ignored what I told them about massive anxiety and claimed to see an upward trend in BP based on no real history and a handful of white coat readings...
Four years and 25 kilos from my last bad blood glucose reading I recently benefited by being given covid and flu vaccines I would otherwise not have been entitled to in the UK .
The UK population based QRISK calculator even adds 1 percent to heart risk based on POST CODE !
@@yangtse55GPS are paid £5 per person they put on to statins.
This is one of those chicken / egg arguments. Are you fat because of your blood sugar problems or are your blood sugar problems because you are fat. I think it's the former. People are eating hundreds of grams of carbohydrates every day when the actual requirement for dietary carbohydrates is ZERO. Not one single gram ever. There are no essential carbohydrates. Your body requires zero glucose input. If you are a diabetic why would you eat one single gram of carbohydrate? Seriously. Why are you doing that? Yet we are told to eat it all day long and everyone is drowning in insulin, which we know both drives fat and prevents utilizing it. There is no need to complicate Type 2 diabetes. It is elevated blood glucose. That's it. That is how it is defined, diagnosed, measured and managed. All of that excess blood glucose comes in via your mouth. Stop putting it in your mouth and how do you have elevated blood glucose? You don't. Diabetes is not a disease. It's a poisoning. Glucose poisoning. There is no 'cure' because there is nothing to cure. Your body is being forced to deal with a flood of glucose that it neither requires nor desires. It's super east to test - stop eating it and see what happens. I can tell you from experience. You get skinny and every single health problem you have goes away. No pills, no procedures. Stop eating carbohydrates. That's it.
Thank you Simon for introducing us to this marvelous doctor. This talk really helps to decipher all the misconceptions about diabetes on social media
You’ve become my fact checker in a sense.
Where do u get these low calorie drinks roy talking about from new Zealand
Thank you for this informative interview Simon. I found it interesting to understand important nuances in each individual in terms of how glucose and fat are stored. Loved listening to his experiment descriptions to understand how much weight loss is needed to reverse type 2 diabetes. A great podcast to jumpstart a new health journey or to understand how we might help each other improve health.
A very good, comprehensive discussion. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
If pancreatic fat overload reduces insulin output, why do we measure insulin resistance by looking for elevated fasting insulin levels?
In the early stages of diabetes the Pancreas compensates by releasing more insulin. The output drops after years of compensation.
Thanks for asking Dr/Prof Roy many of the questions I wanted to ask him myself!
I previously found your channel through the channel called nutrition made simple. These two channels it really helped me understand an Unbiased viewpoint to temper my knowledge of the whole food plant-based diet. It was good that I follow the channels for that Diet because I’m a be healthy. There is some misinformation in there though and this helps clear it up.
This doctor seems to be pretty well Excepted as an authority on the mechanism of diabetes and trial tested solutions and decent size groups it
Thank you so much for this conversation! That topic was my dissertation subject. So fascinating. And here so perfectly explained! I maybe think the exercise contribution is a little bit underestimated (as well as the specific fat composition of the diet) based on what I could read while researching.
wonderful informative podcast, host has done good homework, we rarely see these days
1:35:23 I found this answer fascinating...
1:35:53 Prof Roy Taylor: "Overnight you'll put out 10 grams per hour [glucose] for the average man, in average health. But with diabetes you are putting out about 15g /hr. So it's not to do with the food. You're looking at metabolism determining the blood glucose level."
Lol, I listened to an anti-carbs video where the argument given was that seeing a healthy person has a total of 10 grams of glucose in the blood (in the whole body), you don't need more than 10 grams of glucose from your diet 😊
I do not get, what you want to express with that.
In the above section you write g/hr and down you write gramms only.
If it is 10 gramms per hour both, that what is the difference?
@@clownbackpainrick6581 They were confusing the body function of keeping blood glucose levels at a constant (eg 10g), to the amount of glucose utilised over time. Ie, they left out metabolism from the argument, just said the whole body has 10g in the blood, therefore only need a couple of teaspoons worth of sugar.
A very useful / informative discussion , thankyou 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
I use s cgm to reduce glucose spikes, and it’s lots of fun. Don’t know if it matters.
Hi Friends,
Curious to know - which part of our recent conversation did you find the most engaging? Also, if there are any other questions you have in mind about this topic, just leave them below. I'll ensure they're included in our next chat.
he never once mentioned Insulinopenia, especially in regards to type 2.
ALFD interaction with this diet and also people on Febuxostat or with Gout and Pre diabetic
Sounds like the whole video could be summed up in three sentences: Stop eating processed "food":, stop eating refined "food" (sugar, oils, fat etc..) , stop eat fatty food, and start eating food that we were all meant to eat. Sounds like Whole Food Plant Based to me. Eat properly and dramatically lower your risk of ever contacting any of the "diseases" that unfortunately and unnecessarily plagues most of the world's population today.
Sounds good. I don't eat any processed oils except for every third or forth week I might make popcorn with organic popcorn kernels I buy, and then I add a teaspoon of flax seed oil so that my spices that I also add will stick to the popcorn . I also add a little apple cider vinegar for some extra sticking power as well. I easily eat three handful of nuts a day. I use a seed grinder and grind up flax seed, chia seed, a brazil nut, peanuts, sunflower seeds, sesame seeds. pumpkin seeds and throw in just a little amount of stevia I get from my garden - not necessarily the same every time. I've heard that too many nuts can make you put on weight, but it doesn't work for me. I have trouble putting on weight so I started eating ground nuts and seeds to put on weight - I've never seen a change But I now have a taste for all these nuts - I love them. I guess I'm lucky? I can eat alot and not put on weight. I'm a 63 year old male and weigh around 135 lb naked. Plus, I workout 6 times a week and use the elliptical machine 5 days a week. I'm small but very strong for my size. Basically I'm bone and muscle - very low fat. My wife says that I have way too much energy all the time (especially for my age) but she's comparing me to the normal population. It's so sad to see people continuously hurt themselves. Here is a prime example of how people think: If you were in a friends house, had a big holiday meal and offered to do the dishes, what would the host say to you if they saw you pouring all the warm and hot leftover fat and grease down the kitchen sink - they'd explode! They'd get very upset because you could be plugging up their drains in the house. But, remember, the fat and grease that you just poured down the kitchen sink drain is the very same fat and grease that everyone just finished pouring down their own drains (mouths). They care more about plugging the kitchen drain than they do about plugging up their own arteries. I just don't get it... Again I say, it's so sad...
Plant based whole food diet kept my obese mother obese. It wasn't until she went back to butter, organic beef, chicken & a sprinkling of low carb veggies did she finally lost 150lb.
How one could gain weight by eliminating all processed oils, fats and sugars from their diets is beyond me. I believe that your mother was not strictly eating WFPB. She was probably eating the "vegan" diet that included processed foods that contain huge amounts of hidden fats, oils, sugars and chemicals. Most bags of chips that you can buy at the local corner store are vegan, but they contain 17 percent calories from oil and fat - just look at the grease on your fingers after eating only a few. People on any diet can lose weight if they restrict calories, but are they getting the necessary calories and nutrients from the food that they are eating. Yes, people can lose weight by eating animals but they are slowly blocking their veins, arteries and capillaries with fat - fat they will cause many many health issues down the road. There are many ways to lose weight - cancer chemo drugs are very good at it. Losing weight does not necessarily equal gaining health. One should concern themselves with eating the correct food for our species, and losing weight will be one of the many healthy side affects derived from eating correctly. Please have you mother reconsider her decision and have her eat strictly whole plant based foods.
@@docbegone1716 because for 75 years the USDA had been advocating grains, potatoes, corn, etc. My mother stayed fat on her beloved shredded wheat, oatmeal with banana, steamed veggies, an almost fat free chicken breast, etc.
The woman never brought sugary cereals inside the house. We didn't have white bread. She didn't buy Hostess, etc. I was raised from a very young age to read labels because she didn't eat pork. She stayed fat on the food pyramid = plant based & she preferred whole foods, yet that didn't help.
One should NOT remove all fats from one's diet. Our entire endocrine / hormonal system relies on them.
Bedridden, I was able to get my mother from above 350 down to just over 200 on quality meats, butter, her beloved coffee & low carb veggies. Humans did not develop on plant based diets.
@azsunburns I thought plant based diet is low fat and low cal?
Fantastic interview👏🏻👏🏻 thank you both
Our pleasure!
SO annoying to hear this constant "carb" bashing over and over. There is a huge difference between doughnuts and cake, and beans or flax meal. Taylor doesn't appear to get it, even when specifically prodded. Okinawans of old consumed 60%+ of whole carbs and diabetes incidence was very low. And their cardio-vascular health was great. And they lived longer than pretty much any other population.
To the body there is ZERO difference
A carb is a carb
@@nomadicrecovery1586 Your statement is not true. But if you have any evidence to back it up, please post.
@@nomadicrecovery1586 Did you just say that?! It must be your brains on doughnuts. Or bacon? Because it's absolute nonsense.
Best interview ever
my man thank you for inviting roy to your podcast
Yes.
I follow Mastering Diabetes and Prof. Roy Taylor's guidance, dropped 33lbs, A1c came down to pre-diabetes range. Vigilance is the key, however, like "Cypher", I reenter the "Matrix" on occasion and have a taste of forbidden food, it usually takes a week to fight my way back to goal weight, fortunately my sugar doesn't skyrocket, exercise?
Great episode, thank you.
Amazing interview! Really enjoyed it, thank you. He must be right - food is a toxic substance when taken in excess, regardless of it’s macronutrient content. Never thought about it in this way.
Great interview. I was familiar with his thesis but you took him to all sorts of places I’ve never heard him go before. He didn’t miss a beat and I learned a lot.
I’d love to have a cup of tea with him but I’d pass on the powdered milk packets. 🤣
im an example of the normal-ish BMI range (only 8lbs overweight when diagnosed), but I have T2.
As soon as I lost about 25lbs, down to 165lbs, my blood glucose has largely regulated. I still get fairly wild spikes but my HbA1C is below range (generally post-prandial 5.8-6.1).
This was a really great interview. I learnt a great deal about type 2 diabetes and how to live to reduce the chances to developing it.
Thank you Simon and Roy 👍
6:45 I don’t understand how, if “fat stops the insulin producing cells from working properly” (presumably meaning insufficient insulin) on the cycle on the right causing blood glucose to rise, insulin is happily being released in sufficient quantities on the left to convert blood glucose to fat.
I have a question about insulin. Do we produce the same amount of insulin if blood glucose rises are flatter when we combine foods to mitigate the spikes. For example, eating white rice on it's own would proabably cause a higher glucose rise than if you combine the rice with meat and non-starchy veg. But because we are ingesting the same amont of refined carbs, do we still need the same amount of insulin or is it less as glucose won't rise as fast? Hope that makes sense?!
Great discussion. What of liked more in depth talk on the type of fatty acids and how they affect the liver and inflammatory pathways.
Long-chain fatty acids, particularly saturated fats like C16 (palmitic acid) and C18 (stearic acid) are associated with type 2 diabetes. These fatty acids undergo metabolism within the body, leading to the formation of lipid intermediates like diacylglycerol (DAG) and ceramides. This metabolic process can activate protein kinase C (PKC), disrupting insulin signaling pathways and contributing to insulin resistance.
Inflammatory pathways also come into play, particularly with palmitic acid activating the nuclear factor-kappa B (NF-KB) pathway. This activation leads to the production of pro-inflammatory cytokines, such as tumor necrosis factor-alpha (TNF-a) and interleukin-6 (IL-6), contributing to chronic inflammation associated with insulin resistance.
Contrastingly, unsaturated fats, including monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats, exhibit different metabolic effects. They are less prone to forming lipid intermediates and do not activate PKC to the same extent as saturated fats. Additionally, they promote lipid oxidation and help prevent the accumulation of lipids in tissues from what I've read.
Might there be a personal fat threshold for other chronic diseases, like asthma, or is any excess fat generally inflammatory?
Waist Hip Ratio is also a very good predictor of risk of type 2 diabetes! Waist Hip ratio is a good indicator of amount of organ fat and Prof. Taylor’s have demonstrated that that’s one of the major causes of type 2 diabetes. All you have to divide your waist circumference to your hip circumference.
If pancreatic fat overload reduces insulin output, why do we measure insulin resistance by looking for elevated fasting insulin levels?
Surely fasting insulin is the only test needed to see if someone has reached their fat threshold. Although, from what I've heard, they have set the acceptable level too high. Much higher than what Joseph Kraft recommended.
Can anyone post the link to the sedentary - half Great North Run study Prof Taylor mentioned towards the end please?
You suggest fastening other sites say eat a little every 3 hours, others say no meat etc. All very contradictory.
Fantastic interview. Roy Taylor may be my favorite guest you've had on. Please do that part 2!
Great podcast, thanks a lot Simon!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I read where many well heeled diabetics in India (who are not necessarily grossly overweight) are opting for bariatric surgery as a matter of course.
Good topic - thanks. Quite a simple treatment really, lose weight and keep it off.
Audio good
Perfect! Pls share
Only 12% of his studies are diabetes free after some considerable time lapse. So weight management needs to be an in built habit and not an intervention it seems.
The fat you eat is the fat you wear
I've been told the opposite about complex carbs. What does the research say about this?
Wish this information would get onto medical people in new Zealand only one doc has herd of these guys i have came a cross and he young doc
Great YT. really good data on exercising fasted … I run 3.5mi fasted for fat and 2.5 before dinner for glucose control … just see,med like a good idea … appreciate the validation
To get your blood glucose down, it would be better to do excerise after your meal (a brisk walks e.g.).
What if the glucose causes the fat , to many carbohydrates as they raise blood glucose, eating fat doesn’t raise glucose. Check that out
Excess calories, be it from glucose or fat, will increase hepatic fat. Saturated fats seem particularly deleterious
Much better . Its still there but thanks for your effort . One thing that might have helped if you noticed when he started talking during the interview is to ask him to move the mic away from the front of his mouth .
Thanks for the tip
This audio is good. 👍
Glad you think so!
@@TheProofWithSimonHill pls continue with your superb content. 🙏
I heard of Roy's work soon after being diagnosed with T2D. I was one of the lucky ones - picked up early and now in remission. So I probably owe him my health. I didn't bother with meal replacements though (for one thing I'm not wealthy) just eliminated added sugar and the problematic grains and went for a daily walk. Which lead to the needed weight loss.
Hi, have you been in his study as participant ("direct" study)?
@@clownbackpainrick6581 No, just followed the guidelines in the book.
A lot of great questions you asked aa always!! Thank you. In Japan there is type 2 diabetes due to aging - decrease of insulin and some other factors. I am afraid of that as my father has it. I want to keep insulin sensitivity up. I wonder how..Any insights???
Exercise, appropriate calories and a healthy dietary pattern.
@@TheProofWithSimonHill Thank you! T2D solution often goes to weight loss. I am trying to build muscles and telling my father too. I love all sort of exercise. I used to feel guilty taking out time from work or saying no to meetings with my clients. But now I say "medical neccesity for my physical & mental" !!
Low carb, high protein moderately high fat. Eat real whole food. 👍🏻
I know people who do that and they have t2d
check out Prof Christopher Gardener on how much protein you actually need, quality of protein and what happens to the excess at the end of the day.
@@trotskyite1exactly
@@trotskyite1they they aren’t actually doing it
Thank you Professor Taylor . Greetings from Singapore. I love your book. It is on my Audible and Kindle. Inspirational and enlightening. I limited my food intake to 800 calories per day and lost weight and reversed my diabetes in early 2022. Thank you and I hope the world will adopt your twin cycle hypothesis and the results to treat diabetes.
Hi Joe,
what were your markers at baseline and where are they now ?
(weight, waist circumference, LDL, HDL, fasting bloog glucose, HbA1c...)
In the original direct study there were 89 participants. After the 12 weeks of 800 kcal per day there were 50% into T2D remission. A follow up for 5 years showed that only 11 participants (12%) were T2D free.
What are in your mind the most important factors, why most people cannot stick to a healthy diet. As in this case they had diabetes and did feel the bad outcomes.
Then they got the "wonder" to be diabetes free, but most of them could not stick to it...
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Wait is this a reupload
Just improved audio. But it’s this weeks ep! Recorded it a few weeks ago
This is full of it I have Type 2 and BMI was 45.9 i have been in ketosis for months my BMI is 35.0 now and still going down and let me tell you i still have Type 2 Diabetes, Im just masking my Type 2 by totally cutting out Carbs+Sugar, but According to Toy Taylor if my BMI goes from 45 to 40 i wont have Type 2 lol, im not saying it cannot be reversed in the long term thats my goal and dream but its not as simple as he thinks and even if i do manage to reverse it i certainly wont be going back to a 55%-75% Carb diet that has been pushed since the late 70's carbs should be 5-10% max in a healthy person
🚨 Plant Chompers just put a video out about PFAS and it’s beyond alarming. I’d love your opinion on it
I’m …I’m a little alarmed tbh
I will add that to the list of future topics!
Peter Rogers MD (YT channel) covers toxicology as the elephant in the room even in Whole Food Plant Based diets. The careful consumer can mostly avoid hyperpalatable foods that are excitotoxic to the brain, although MSG (and 'regrettable replacements') is hidden in our modern food labeling scheme as "Natural Flavor."
At 1:22:00 he said getting rid of diabetes but then whole video suggests remission for few years and it will return...so it won't cure the issue just put to sleep for few years ??
It would be nice, when there is a success rate (after 10 years maybe) of 80%.
But what is the alternative? Is there a better one, that has more than an 11% remission (profen). And I guess the others, who are not in remission do better than the control group.
A profen (randomized controlled trial) alternative for remssions does not exist. The alternative classic path is: you are put on drugs...