THE SPALL LINER NIGHTMARE IS HERE - T-90M in War Thunder
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The T-90M in War Thunder is the latest Top Tier offering giving insane protection from both the front and sides. The reason for the side protection is Spall Liners. These panels vastly reduce the amount of shrapnel generated once a round penetrates which drastically increases the chances of surviving a hit.
The issue with the Spall Liner is it sometimes rewards a player who should have been punished for exposing their side armor. In most cases where a top tier MBT survives a side shot they can turn their turret and shoot back which can be extremely frustrating for the flanking vehicle.
Since the latest patch, Spall Liners have been reworked so that they only offer protection after the first shot.
The T-90M is a good tank but it's certainly not as potent as the T-80BVM. To me, it feels like a good filler tank for 11.7 but it really doesn't offer anything that the T-80 chassis doesn't do better. If it had a reverse gear, that would certainly be different! :)
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Day 14 of asking to play a Tiger 1 in top tier till 5 kills
The new event format kicks off with the Object 292, a modified T-80 with a new 152.4mm smoothbore gun.
hey oddbawz i was wondering if you were aware about the modification research bug in air RB that has been around for 2+years and goes something like this.
join a game and leave before the match ends.
You then start another match, which ends BEFORE match 1 ends, and you successfully research the module "new enginge". You can then select a new module to research.
Now however, match 1 STILL contributes ONLY to the already researched module "new engine", effectively giving you 0 XP, as the progress is NOT transferred to the newly selected module.
Just play something you really enjoy or if not T-95
12th time asking you to play 8.7 Sweden, the gist of it is that you get constant downtiers to 7.7, you face German teammates more often than not, and you will see a lot of king tigers. Also include the Saab 105 g. It’s stupidly op with a full bomb load. T55M, strv103c, strv104, ikv-91-105, veak40, and rush with the itpsv90. IT IS STUPID FUN.🤩
Odd's general enthusiasm for top tier knows no bounds.
It's an absolute shitfest, so I don't blame him. I've got some 11.7 tanks, but haven't touched anything above 8.7 for more than a year now. It's just not enjoyable at all
@@skdKitsune I agree. The only fun I have in high-tier is bonking MBTs with HE slingers. Though that's fun at every tier.
I reached top tier with Russia and Germany simultaneously during the winter event and I´m loving it and by far the best thing about it is not facing those CV90105 premium plebs any longer. I´d much rather get bombed by Gripens who didn´t just buy their ticket into top tier.
It is so funny to hear his tone of voice to top tier compared to other tiers lmao. "Yep.. gotta shoot him.. yeah.. ok.. next"
It's amazing how the side of t90m's and t80bvms feels more protected that the front of a abrams
Especially against heat fs
Russian bias
in real life Russian T-90Ms and T-80BVMs are trash compared to Abrams
Abrams in real life is more armored and protected and it have depleted uranium armor which is more effective then era
Irl the freebrams has no spall liners
Sorry for grammar policing you but; you shoulda said “T-90m’s” instead of “T-90ms”since a tank called T-90ms exists
@@horrorgames1874 What are your sources for this?
10:53 you can now shoot the smoke grenades on tanks, and they kind of go off like that. You can see 1 smoke shell getting removed from your hotbar (?) Yk the thing that shows you ammo and stuff
You've been able to do that for quite awhile now, i know i've been doing it all month just to confuse people.
@ItsMistahWolfe yeah, I know, but Odd didn't know what happened at that moment, so I just wanted to let him know
It already happened in ukraine. A bradley shot the smoke shells of a t90
@@masol3726 You mean like in real life? If so thats actually pretty damn funny. I can only imagine their confusion.
@@ItsMistahWolfeit was when a Bradley shredded a T-90M with its gun. It ended up also detonating a smoke grenade on the tank, on top of effectively mission killing it through sustained fire.
Meanwhile most if not all of the T-80s have inbuilt spall liners called "bullshit coded side armor". It's astonishing how much shrapnel those fuel tanks and the void eat.
the fuel tanks are a double edged blade, because even though it can eat up shells, sometimes when they explode the tank dies
Spall liner called "rubber"
Not to forget, the "random ammo not exploding when hit" bullshit.
@@lfotzblitz7436 that happens with all tanks, be happy russian fuel tanks explode soo much
Yeah, makes you wonder why, instead of composite armour, they didn't use fuel tanks all around. The tank would be indestructible. Every shot would just disappear as if swallowed by a black hole.
The 2 things that hurt the T-90M are its reverse speed but also it’s reload, especially with the Abrams getting a reload buff the T-90 M has quite a poor reload overall
True. If it were a T-80 variant it wouldn't be that bad, but because it's a slightly better T-72B3M it keeps the 22 round autoloader and 7-ish second reload instead of the 6-ish on T-80 tanks.
Honestly the reload aint even that bad, tho that reverse speed gives me brain damage
@@BreadPittAAAAHHHH those .6 seconds in-between the T-80 and the T-90 reload is the difference on being able to out reload a Leo 2 and getting killed by it. I, for one, just got used to the atrocious reverse. 9 out of 10 times reverse speed ain't gonna save you in top tier if you make a mistake anyways.
Don’t forget that a pair of Bradley’s killed this tank
@@evilhunter64drone*
The tank that actually brought top tier to its knees is the Str 122+ and Leopard2A7. Seriously it is crazy how strong Germany and Sweden are now, a team with Germany and Sweden on the same side is has almost 90% chance to win, even more so if the other side has US.
Dude yes. The fact that side shots sometimes only kill 1 crew member or even sometimes ZERO damage is unplayable. STRV and 2A7V take anywhere from 2-5 shots to fully kill with pixel sized 1 shot kill shot areas from the front. Spall liners NEED to be removed from all or added to all 11.7 tanks to slow down the gameplay or balance it out. It's ridiculous.
me when 15cm sig can still overpressure like every single top tier tank:
Seems like most US teams have genuinely decent players on them at super top tier if it’s not premiums. Just the Abram’s falls way behind on protection compared to the Leo’s/strv/bvm t90m. You cannot take a hit in Abram’s like you can in those tanks.
@@Honoer agreed. It's almost like they need to remove spall liners for all tanks to balance it out. That, or add spall liners in for all top tier tanks to slow the gameplay down. They clearly don't care about accuracy of tanks cause the Chinese tree and French tree are sooo underpowered for what they should be.
And yet, german mains will endlessly cry about the so called "russian bias" and "chinese bias" while driving the best damn tank in the whole game. I would challenge them to try the Soviet tanks a bit and see them swear about the horrible gun depression, the slow reload and the turtle level reverse speed that we have to deal with during the whole tree. In addition, everything after the T-34 has slow turrets and slow up and down gun movement. Russian bias has just been a meme or a coping mechanism for quite a while now.
Imagine T-90M, or just about any russian tank, more than 20km/h reverse. Or just same speed forward and reverse
That would be a T-80
the terrible reverse speeds really hold them back
gib t90MC gaijin! gib!
Newest models have 15km reverse
@@BreadPittAAAAHHHH russians be like: BEHOLD! NEW AND IMPROVED! 15 in reverse
you could say the same about the strv122b+ and leo2a7
they are impossible to one shot from the front or the side
.........ammo..........
@@cat_clan_leader yeee, only 1 every 100 might have that extra ammo, and i don't count that shit
No depends on the dart used
@@wyk3548 and which ammo exactly one shots 2a7 or B+
bombs/HE OP?
its really easy actually just shoot the left ufp or tuuret ring theres three crewmembers lined up perfectly
The metal around the 50 is because the 50 is now remote controlled from inside the tank. Not that it matters for war thunder logic cause they are magically remote controlled anyways without a crew member exposed
Thank god, someone else also thought the same thing lol. it would have been dumb and ridiculous to also have an exposed remote controlled machine gun with a multi million dollar optic sight and separate FCS. I have no clue what odd was going on about, it’s common sense to have armor protection
Ngl I kinda wish that roof mgs had to be toggled and would expose your commander
@@SOUNDWAVEPRT-64B (from 1976!) with its exposed remote controlled HMG entered the chat
@@SOUNDWAVEPRNATO CROWS system just works fine without fancy metal boxes covering the M2
@@himhig same, mostly because that would make those big cupolas with mgs some tanks have be actually useful instead of just being worse than a roof mg and adding a weak spot
Here's some ideas for more SPAA's for the US tree: T100 MGMC, T85 MGMC, T69 MGMC, T77 MGMC, T52 MGMC, and an M24 chassis with a 75 mm T22 gun which had a 45 RPM count and a proxy fuse HE shell.
Chaffee is already an AA in my hands, and the idea of a proxy fuse to go with it…I may need new pants.
All nations need like 10+ extra SPAA each, with today's BR changes, the UK now has 3 at 8.3, wtf are those donkey brains at gaijin thinking?
You mad man ❤@@trailingrails9953
They need something, from 4.0-7.7 there’s nothing
War Thunder really does get turned on its head when you get into top-tier matches. I'm perfectly happy at my low BR.
Skill issue
@@brandonporter7001if I wanted to play COD then I would play actual COD
@@GewelReal come again? Sorry i thought this was warthunder not call of duty
@@brandonporter7001 So there's no skilled players at low BR?
@@Frankovelli low teir is absolutley easy, been playing low tier the past couple days because of it being so much less stressful… going from 10.0+ to 8.0 and under… the game is no where close as rough. Have players that drive right by me in plain day light, you start at low br and work your way up for a reason
That thing has a slightly faster reverse speed then the panther a which is 49 years older then the t90 wow technology in the proletariat has progressed so much
No one:
OddBallz: IN THUS VEDEO..
in des vereo we... play wor tunderr
@@desertfalcon1539 lmao
😅
I LOVE how Odd has been putting little tidbits of information for new players in his videos recently. Im not new anymore but he talks about stuff that I wish I knew when I first started the game!
Dearest Mr Oddbawz,
i would appreciate if you would ever so kindly play the low tier t-80 that sits at 2.3, it has has a sloped 35mm front plate that bounces a lot of shells, it has the russian 45mm cannon and has the ability to scout, it unfortunately very bouncey when it comes to suspension and coming to full stops however i believe the previous statements negate that.
Have fun suffering, Yours
The Fatman
It also has an agonizingly slow turret traverse
I second this that tank is a meme
@20:00 Odd shows his roots because I cannae understand the man.
You should take the Bradley into top tier and see how it does, considering recent events :P
On the battlefield I always find this thing between 2 burning tanks and smoke everywhere can't see shlt and shoot it on all the wrong places
Given how much pushing the other teams spawn over capturing points seems to be a Meta in War Thunder - I am surprised they just don't implement a capture the flag/enemy base mode. . .
That's called battle
The weirdest games are always the ones where you do nothing at the start and only get kills after 10 minutes
meanwhile people who have AMD graphics card cant even play the game anymore theres load of reports of it saying outdated drivers while they are the newest so it sets Everything on ultra low and you cant change it
common AMD L
As A abrams owner along with russian german tech tree idc anymore on this game but getting some kills and listening to music with my tanks driving plus i have more fun on custom battles such as desert storm maps or ww2 battles it gives me a break from realistic battles all the time no joy as much.
Would you revisit the Strv 122 (specifically the B+)? Better yet I would recommend playing the CV90120 its a personal fav of mine unlike other top tier tanks it requires skill.
Edit: Another suggestion would also be either the Type 90 or TKX (p), 11.0 Japan is just constant downtiers in the current meta.
I'm currently spading Japan's 11.0 and I love the 4sec reload, great mobility and constantly being top tier against all premium tank players.
the MG turret can be manned from the inside of the tank, thats why they have that thing on the outside, its for the auto loading, and actuators for traverse
How do you feel about the ranking system? I would prefer it to be 0.5 up or down rather than 1.
Gaijin thinks that the wait time would be too long. I would happily wait longer for a match if this was the case. Even .7 each way would be better. Most changes impact a tank moving up, but rarely does a vehicle get moved back down. In 3 years the T20 and Jumbo will be 8.3.
@@justinthomas85
There will be top build 10.0
Jumbo M4A3E2, T20, HM-1, M1A1 AIM, M1A1 HC, M1, M1 KVT
All will have a 10.0 because of "winning percentage".))
Friendly reminder that the Abrams has had spall liner since the M60s
Yet the Abrams doesn’t have one lmao.
"You can of course shoot lower down taking out the ammo" He saysa as I repetadly hit T-tanks in the ammo 3-5 times before it explodes xD . I do really think that from like 10.0 and up the game needs bigger maps designed for the speed/firepower of top tier.
Yes I just made a similar (but much longer) comment... Didn't see yours until now.
BT-5 When
Amazing how T90 in game has spall liners and good armour on paper yet the actual tank has in-effective armour due to corruption.
the russian teams in toptier are right now not playable, i have around 20% winrate on them
How? Literally some of the strongest tanks
Because leo2a7 and strv 122 b+ are dominating toptier right now
@@LewisB3217 lol lmao even their only competent tank is the bvm which is still worse than the abrams and leo2s
@@nomadfromcrysis5986 lmfao, put down the vodka
Honestly, I may be alone on this but I think that the issue with Russian mbs’s is how Russia actually uses them in combat scenarios and the corruption and insufficient training inside their military that alter their combat effectiveness not the general design of their vehicles.
yeah probably, corruption fuck everything even the military
Hi odd, love the content, i think its time for another T20 video now at 6.3
He did T20 video, few weeks ago.
peak warthunder is completing a tree, and realizing that you get to go back to the fun part of the game again.
Don't let Gaijin see that 2 Bradley's 1 stalinium spinner video going around
You mean two Bradleys tickling a t90 breaking the gunner optics and a drone having to do the job? What about it
@@daftcow706bro they bail out after the Bradley’s fire. Not the drone
@@Keep3r1438 And the tank was destroyed thanks to the drone not the Bradley's
this Thing is the definition of a one way death machine ether it kills or get killed
0 chance of escape and low defense when it comes to the real spots
Wouldn't mind if at some point spall liners were removed, I'm very used to them now and don't have a problem with but at the same time it wasn't a necessary feature, especially since many MBTs still don't have theirs.
I love the t90m with the double spall liner. the first shot is stopped by an era and the second shot is stopped by a spall liner. a third shot maybe make the magazine to explode :D
Yea shoot it in real life and it blows up in one shot turret flies off.
Can you please play the cv90120, it's one of the best light tanks in the game
that 'Tunisia' map is almost the original RB sized map. it was shrunk very early in ground forces and the village out west has been deleted.
As you pointed out, it’s cute that the mg has its own little cope cage 😂
Cope cage? It’s just armor so it doesn’t get shot off by machine gun fire or shrapnel
@@Keep3r1438 it’s just a joke mate.
That Machine Gun looks like that because it has a mechanically operated servo. Which allows the commander to shoot soft targets himself while being fully protected inside the tank. Nobody has the budget to put cosmetics on a tank.
Bradley go brrrrrrrrr...
The spall liner sometimes completely stops your rounds from doing anything even directly aimed at crew
Its crazy how people dickride how a bradley blinded a t90 as if a bmp wouldnt also do the same to an abrams, optics are a weak point in any tank, idrk why people are so suprised thats a weakspot on a t90
It’s the propaganda, in these last years we have seen more anti eastern (russian,chinese,arab…) than any time in history, some could argue the current propaganda in western countries is worse than the WW2 n@zi propaganda and they wouldn’t be wrong
yeah, I was gonna say this. Apparently, it's news to people that tanks aren't invincible. Literally anything can be destroyed by almost anything else with a lucky shot or just the right circumstances.
and don't get me wrong, I don't think the T90 is a great tank. But tactics and logistics are almost always the deciding thing on what makes a tank survive or not. Same as WT applies in real life: The best armor is just not getting hit in the first place.
A BMP-2 being accurate while firing on the move ?
@@gaiofattos2 The point isn't that the BMP-2 is even really objectively better than a Bradley.
It's that there's really no reason it couldn't - in theory -, do the same to an Abrams. And I say in theory, because on paper, there's really no reason a Bradley should've been able to destroy a T90, either. And the same thing has happened with a lot of vehicles, albeit rarely.
Essentially, it's like saying Batman can beat anyone with prep time. In theory, sure. But in practise, pretty much any tank can be destroyed just given bad enough circumstances, or the right things being in the right place at the right time. Hence logistics and tactics.
@@foxxowoxxowillow7855 The thing is, bmp-2 vs Abrams is a whole different thing.
Even if 2 bmp catch the Abrams like the Bradles did to he the t-90m. The Abrams can always hit reverse gear and get out of the ambush.
While i know that "many thing" can beat a Tank, its important to see how pathetic was the whole bradley vs t-90m thing was, they didn't have tow missiles or even apds to fire at the T-90m and they manage to get a mission kill on it.
Challenger Video anytime soon? I would love to see your take on the stop start steering and the tinfoil they call armour
why am i grinding for top tier when it’s like this 😭
Save your time and do something constructive with your life
Yeah it’s not worth it all
The fun is at mid tier
I mean Sweden's pretty fun I find from like 6.0 up. Pretty fun line ups. I like my 10.0 line up, the 9040s are stupid fun and the 9040 BILL has a deceptively good top/down ATGM. Like way better the TOW2B on American and german
@@gamesordames9480 Sweden is killing it at top tier right now I’m finishing the American tech tree and the Sweden Germany combo is scarier than facing Germany plus Russia at this point
I'm planning to stop grinding each tree at like 8.3 - 9.0, especially as a new player I don't want to even think about playing top tier
I got t90m and it is not definitely not the spall liner nightmare,leopards 2a7v is cause the crew is more scattered around the tank
Controversial take, but spall liners were a rly bad idea lol
Only added to some of the end of the line tanks, some of which did not need them at all (cough cough leo 2a5/6 and their variants cough) and they only make the game more frustrating to play.
based take almost everyone i know including myself agrees 100% on
I feel like added survivability makes top tier less point and click, which is something everyone always seems to complain about.
Nah the tanks that didnt need it were the Russian tanks. They already had an artificial spall liner, now they are even worse to fight against. Leopards were easy enough to kill, spall was never really an issue
The problem isnt that they exist its that it just adds another layer of RNG to gaijins broken damage models when the games become so overloaded with issues from volumetric armour, bugs, ghost shells and sneaky armour modifiers that reduce spalling anyway
well i can tell you dont play top tier with that statement since none of it is true and its the first time ive read that lmao@@cat_clan_leader
Appreciate this massive content push brother.
Wow, they made the T-90M really fast in War Thunder. In reality, it's hard-pressed to exceed 30 MPH on roads.
Irl the T-90M is extremely fast and maneuvrable as in game, maybe not exact like it, but is pretty comparable to Abrams execpt for the reverse speed
@@Necronimus616lol. lmao even.
Sure it can’t. You are just pulling shit out your ass.
@@Necronimus616 it really isn't that fast lmao.
@@Shiraumereit really is fast, but just like your daily car you use everyday, maxing out your top speed really isn’t a thing you should do. It screws with the transmission over time, making it weaker and weaker. Kinda like how tank barrels need to be replaced over short periods of time when being constantly fired
It's hilarious how all the well-protected soviet/russian vehicles are quickly turning out to not be as protected as stated, given the influx of data coming in from the current conflict. I don't imagine T-90 is different, though it's incredible how blatantly powerful it is in contrast to other nation top tiers.
Also, fun fact, DM63 can go straight through a T-90s UFP in real life.
Pointless fact since DM63 isn’t in game.
@@FXIIBeaver Well if a 2017 top of the (admittedly awful) line tank can be added then a 2010~ NATO standard round can?
@@louiewood7689 Sure. 3BM59 when?
@@LURKTec Whenever they add M829A4 and DM63 comrade :)
No proofs
A Z on your tank is actually historically accurate
Russian t90 in wt: "i am death incarnate!"
T90 irl: "please mr Bradley stop shooting me im scared"
I had a stroke just watching the whiff in the first game
for those of use that play on PS4 & 5 and Xbox. i would like to see a screen overlay of just the camera watching you work the keyboard and Mouse. in your last video you said you were working 3 mouse buttons. I would like to see your Octopus arms and fingers fly. THANKS BAWZ
You should see Sweden. All Strvs have spall liner, even the A variant. All other nations got 1 tank with it or with the top of turret only. Broken.
Yes German leopards just don't get one cause Gaijin doesn't feel like it
Hey oddbawz got a video idea for you as a former French main and current Israeli maine. Id like to see you give both countries some love. for the French take out the AMX 40 at 9.7 I had to say this is my absolute favorite tank in the game 120 mm gun 20 mm coax that has saved my life multiple times, it’s fast, the armor isn’t all there but for its br that it’s at I don’t think armor really matters that much anyway I’ve gotten five nukes while playing this game. Two of those nukes have been with this tank. I hope you have fun with it. For the Israelis
takeout either the gal Batash or the merkava mark 2B both of these things are really good and I honestly could not decide between the two these two tanks are tied for my second favorite in the game. For the Israeli tanks, all I can say is that they’re quite similar to British vehicles in the sense that they might not be the fastest or the most well armored, but they do pack a serious punch.
I've been spading the AMX-40 :)
hello odd@@OddBawZ
@@OddBawZno way he replied 😱
8:03 when the bomb just landed right smack on top of them
What's a reverse gear?
No retreat comrade, retreat is only for cowards and well the french
@@BreadPittAAAAHHHH **gets savagely destroyed by arty cuz reverse is -4km**
@@Watchembleed211Dying a glorious death for the motherland is better than dying as a coward
Have you done an SU-11 video before? I finally got the IS-3 so taking the SU-11 out in ground RB for the first time was wicked!!
The T-90M is using a prettied up T-72 hull, Russia was trying to replace theT-72 but it was still cheaper to use the hull so they just made a new turret and called it the T-90
Its a T-72B Hull that while not near as good was meant to be close to the T-80 hull who was URSS equal to the M1 abrams, T-90M might got even better hull armor and reactive than T-90A.
Not Russia, the Soviet Union.
Don't feel bad about your wiff shots BawZ. We all make them ;) I somehow managed to send a round over a stationary tank at less the 200m away. I was also parked. Thank god I was not recording or streaming that.
Two Bradleys didn't destroy one, they M-killed one. Big difference
Doesn’t really change anything
If you try to shoot any of the Russian MBT's without a spal liner, you'll see the shrapnel is the exact same as if it had a spal liner.
M2A2 Bradley is typing...
"Omae wa mou shinderu.. " - M2 Bradley
wonder how they will remodel the T90M after that video of a bradley peppering one with a 25mm chain gun.
according to them that isn't real and the t90 wasn't broken at all but simply showing off its turret rotation speed komrade :)))) No nerfs required.
They don’t need remodeling, the IFV just knocked out the optics and turret ring, any f’ing vehicle can do that
Most of the complaints about the T90m having spall liners and how it was going to destroy top tier was from when they first announced it and it was going to be the only tank in the game with them, they only added them to all the nato tanks after everyone complained.
Imagine if there wasn't enough complaining this game would be more unbalanced
This is funny my boy just sent me a video of a bradly just messing up a t90 with only its bushmaster
Disabling the turret ring and optics isn’t something special, lone tanks without a convoy/support vehicle and infantry support are easy targets to pick on
@@BreadPittAAAAHHHHit’s still pretty impressive 2 shitbox bradleys rocked the most advanced (t14 is effectively a paper tank) tank the Russians have
@@grikkajunior I mean i would think 2 bradleys against a lone MBT would rock any MBT? Right?
@@grikkajuniorI am pretty sure 2 Bradleys cost more than a single T-90m and no it isn’t impressive cause 25mm apds is no joke and again lone tanks are always easy to pick on because you can overwhelm the crew easily, that video you watched is exactly the reason why support vehicles like the bmpt-72 were invented
@@suzanarubi9254Yes, 2 bmp’s can easily f’up an abrahams or a leo aswell
Now if it's was a proper Russian T90M someone would have sold the spall liner for some vodka
And still, all you need are 2 bradleys to destroy it 💀
They didn't destroy it, they took out its optics forcing the crew to just abandon vehicles when it could no longer perform any task.
True 🤣
Well real life is different when you rely on optics not a 3rd person camera 😂
@ii_dynasty that’s exactly what destroying a tank is real life combat isn’t like warthunder do once you can’t see anything that means your tank is effectively destroyed especially since they are in an active war zone
@NathanielNerquaye-Tetteh-uz2nf Yes, but in most of these comments sense they think it was outright killed instead of just disabled.
One of the drawbacks to Top Tier is that there are no (or very few, not enough) large maps like 5+ km size maps. The main issue is that these tanks, IRL, are meant to be used at longer ranges (like 2-3 kms) for delivering shots and better survivability. The squares need to be like 0.75 - 1 km each, and yes while that will make for longer times to get to positions, it would make it more realistic in terms of how tanks are really to be used in modern warfare and less short-range or urban warefare (although there still needs to be this in rotation).
Additionally, the optics need to be more realistic, where some of these tanks and shots in general, wouldn't be such "lasers". How often would breaches and guns take damage or be taken out IRL? Too often tanks seem to have way to strong of an ability to locate an enemy and fire a round into small areas like a driver port, when in reality it would rarely happen - or at least not that frequently.
Now I know the goal of the game is to drive money and make gameplay "balanced" but more often than not, it feels like the outcome is decided before the game even starts. How oftern is the experience where you play one nation or another, and shoot against someone with little to no effect in one game? Then use the same vehichle in another game and completely roll over similar or same tanks?
Big maps are boring
I hope Gaijin models the Russian T series flying turret.
nafo?
@@User-nj9tisoul?
These were the most entertaining top tier matches I've ever seen. ggs
The T 90 M in real life got destroyed by a Bradley that is just sad and main battle tank was destroyed by an armoured personnel vehicle
A mission kill is far different than destroyed.
That T-90 was esentially blinded by the bradley, the bradley wasn't able to penetrate it.
@@shadowconquer-yv5yd Whoops, sorry, did you forget the part where the Russians ran away and the tank was then finished off by an FPV? That tank has joined the Soviet vehicle junkyard that has become Ukraine, where Russia comes to "decommission" their old stuff.
@MichaelDavis-mk4me the turret traverse was jammed but the tank was still operable and could've returned. The comment before is correct, once you get shot in a tank you're essentially panicking for your life with the added benefit of you being blinded. An Abrams would be the same in this position.
@@MichaelDavis-mk4me Ok? The Bradley still inflicted a mission kill on the T90, it didn't penetrate it.
8:55 I wholeheartedly agree with your points here. Yes I am biased.
T-90m became the Bradley last dish recently.
meh, he managed to break the sensors and blind him, then a drone came and finished the job.
Also Abrahams Leos and Merkavas are being destroyed by old RPG-7s
@@User-nj9ti As the T-90M, remember the T-90M first kill was a PIAT/Carl gustav proppeled grenade ?
@@gaiofattos2 Congratulations, you've discovered that *ALL* MBTs are actually very weak against infantry carried ATGMs, well done.
@@jp18449 I'm not speaking about infantry carried atgms, but about IF, the guy above started that. What I said was about the Bradley mission killing a T-90M.
T-80BVM is scarier to face than the T-90M in my oppinion.
Avoid Bradleys. At least in real life... 😅😊😮
True🤣
Avoid FPV’s and being alone would be more realistic since it litteraly took two bradleys just to take out the optics and turret ring forcing the crew out of the tank since they couldn’t perform operations, if the tank wasn’t alone tho it would have been a different story
Wish my abrams could get some survivability, but yknow
Literally doesn’t need it. It’s a far superior challenger 2 by pretty much every standard.
@@thatonelocalauthority2809 troll elsewhere
@@LewisB3217 I’m not trolling. The Abrams is fine… I’d rather be in it than any of my challengers.
@@thatonelocalauthority2809 no, you are trolling
@@LewisB3217sounds like a serious case of skill issue if you are this bad in an Abrams lmao. Another Click-Bait main? Or maybe an AIMtard?
And in real, you only need a 25mm bushmaster😅😂
To disable it by hitting the sights and turret ring, yes but to destroy it, you need something more effective
@@BreadPittAAAAHHHHdoes it matter if it’s turns to useless piece of metal?
@@BreadPittAAAAHHHH Homeboy is literally going through every Bradley comment on this video to "WELL ACTUALLY"
Wait till people find out the bmp can do that to an abrams too lol@@BreadPittAAAAHHHH
@@Rickmanou81293Yes because they are simply wrong, the tank was destroyed right after it got abandoned and well since the crew left the hatches open as they were leaving the enemy forces were able to chunk a grenade in there and destroy it, if there was a friendly convoy nearby that T-90m could have been evacuated right after the fight
Me as a Tier 2 player checking my playback settings to see if I'm watching this at 1.5x speed.
irl, the T-90M is basically useless, but this is War Thunder.
Bro what?
It isn’t, all tanks are useful in combat as both a tool and a moral weapon. The T90M is just more vulnerable to being destroyed and worse at protecting its crew, so it gives less room for error. If you put a T90M in the hands of a competent crew and unit commander the T90M will do well, but Russia doesn’t have much of those
I mean I've not seen a actual t-90 m that isn't still in the shop
send your abrams to ukraine so we can see how good these tanks are irl ❤
@@avex3903 they are already there, and considering how western tanks have down quite well so far at protecting their crews, they will also likely do decently well in the fighting. They have also shown themselves to be really good irl, this isn’t the first time they been in combat. After the T72’s not good combat record, the M1 abrams has seen the most combat and overall has done extremely well
The machine gun on top is different because it gas RWS. In reality a commander can shoot his machine gun without exposing himself
OddbowZ is the most og warthunder youtuber
Hey, it's turret spins around nicely.😅
I got god mode in 11.3 with the M109A1
Leo2A7 and swedish top tier variants are absolutely crazy right now. People talk about russian bias but honestly a team of SWE+GER is unstoppable. T90m and T80bvm are good but not great.
Every game i play, i get worse results than the T72b3
12:52
Lt Harry Welsh from Band of Brothers
Would love to see you do a video with Turny Plays, think that would be a funny one
I guess now what WT needs are FPV drones
the only t90 that gives me trouble is the Fuji
I feel like when the spawn is under enough pressure, the game should generate another just outside of the map to be able to drive back into the game. Just my opinion.
The T-90m look like a nice tank just want i see it cost 400k rp to get and at top tier i earn about 2-6k per game to many leavers the pain kicks in and my hope die. but at top tier i do love hearing jets over head and heils sounds
Are you sure that the angled bit works I use the Swedish T80u with its apfsds and it goes through perfectly fine
There's a recent video from ukraine where a bradley took out a t90m frontally with the gunner admitting he knew the weak spots from a game.
Frontally？45 degree side shot.And it only got T-90m’s sight. All crew members went out and gone.
@@ttohv Not quite. It caught fire, blew out the smoke grenades and cause the turret to spin uncontrollably. Either it spalled throught the turret ring inside and injured the crew or enough electrical issues that they couldn't stop the turret and had to drive it into a tree so they could actually stop it and climb out. Either way, dead T90 because of a bradley.
@@MikaelLevoniemi You don't call a tank dead if it got out of the battle on its own and released the crew safely
This is the opposite of the STB-2. Please end my suffering,I have to research the light tank line AND the Type 99 to progress, I don't have enough SL to buy the Type 74 and my siblings literally makes my parents threaten me while I'm grinding (I was on losing streak, during that I'm a menace to society, I lashed out and it felt good but RIP my sister's mental stability) btw I'm 19