The History Channel was a very good channel back in the day. Now they dont show anything remotely interesting anymore. what happened? Same with the discovery history channel .
Yes ME TOO ! I also recorded it also on a trusty old VHS roughly 20 years ago. Weird thing is my Sony DVD player is no longer working . It wont play anymore. Happened a couple of month ago and i only got that DVD player ten years ago. My old VHS still does and its 25 years old . Now all the recordings all take place digitally but i like my old tape collections . They are like books which equally take up space in the same manner on shelves not that this bothers me.
You mean a fake tv show about a crooked pawn shop run by a bald guy and his son's goofy fat friend in North Las Vegas isnt history ? What about two guys from Iowa traveling around the US buying junk with their slutty female friend with 200 tattoos. Now thats history
The CGI footage (at about 9:47 into the video) of the He162 shooting down a Spitfire shows a Mk.24 Spitfire which was not manufactured until 1948, and belonging to No. 80 Squadron (Squadron Code W2). There is also a report that the only kill by a He162 was of a Typhoon on 4 May 1945 by a Lt. R. Schmitt.
The reason for the breakup of the wood assemblies was that we bombed the Tego Chemical adhesives factory. The ersatz replacement was acid based and would compromise the wood joining. Tego’s product was neutral and was quite effective. After the War Winky Brown tested the aircraft and was impressed with it’s simplicity and advanced design. He thought it was basically a good design worthy of further development of the Volksfighter!
History overstated. The flying wing was not forgotten. As a grade schooler in the 1060's I knew about it from basic airplane books in the school library. Popular science told us back then it was the future. History overstated.
One of the big problems with this “documentary” is it does not address the fact that by early 1944 Germany was having big issues with producing any of it’s current high tech weapons due to lack of specialized raw materials - which effected everything from the quality of the steel for tanks to engines for the Me 262 - the jet engines for Me 262 lasted at best only 20 hours before needing to be overhauled or replaced. Even if the war lasted another year Germany didn’t have the raw materials to build new high tech planes - and since most were only drawings - time to work out any inevitable bugs in the designs - in early 1945 the Germans were trying to find ways to build volks fighters out of wood - not to mention the great loss of pilots - they didn’t have the man power or fuel to train the few men they had left - none of these planes would have ever been able to be produced even if some how the war had gone to 1946.. before the landing at Normandy in June of 1944 - the allied bombing effort had done major damage to the war factories of Germany. Also the things they say Germany could have put in to the air is pure hyperbole - a good example is all the talk about the possibility of an awesome foreword swept fighter jet - it would have never happened - forward swept wings are highly unstable - the reason the US didn’t have a aircraft with forward swept wings until 50 years after WW2 - is because a computer is need to help keep the plane stable in flight - foreword swept wings are highly unstable in flight - if the Germans had tried to fly a jet with forward swept wings - it would just crash - that’s why it has only been used on experiential planes and no air forces to this day fly a fighter with forward swept wings. The Focke-Wulf Ta 183 had only made it to the stage of being a model being a model tested in a wind tunnel - for it to have reached even the 1st flying plane was years off. The work on the Me262 was started in 1939 - the 1st unit to train and fly the Me262 wasn’t formed until late April of 1944. Although the Me262 was put into service it still had many problem and had a very short flight duration of 60-90 minutes. As the Ta 183 used a new engine - which would have many issues to work - by the end of the war in May, 1945 only prototypes had been built - it would have taken Germany at least 3 more years before it would have been able to start producing this new fighter - it would have never happened anytime in 1946 - more like late 1948 before production could have been started on the TA 183. The TA 183 was never “ordered into production” - it couldn’t be produced because even a prototype was never built - heck even a mock up was never built - the only thing ever built of the TA 183 was small models for wind tunnel testing. There is a great deal of bad history and tech in this “documentary” - it almost If it was written by the propaganda from Nazi Germany. There as so many lies in this “documentary” that I lost track of them all - it is more fiction than fact. The Ruhrstahl Ru 344 X-4 - the missile that the TA 183 was suppose to use as its’ primary weapon had been in development since 1936 - yet it was never put into service with and it was impossible to be used by a fighter because the problems in guiding both the missile and the aircraft at the same time proved unworkable in testing. Even though Germany made up to 1,000 of this missile - it never entered service. After the war France tried to further develop the middle for their own use, 200 units were manufactured between 1947 and 1950. However, the program was disbanded due to the dangerous pre-flight refuelling involved (the hypergolic nitric acid and Tonka combination was highly explosive). The Argentine jet fighter, Pulqui II ( based on the TA 183) that was built by the designer of the TA 183 - only 4 prototypes were built by 1959 - development was comparatively problematic and lengthy, with two of the four prototypes being lost in fatal crashes. So the Argentine government bought F86s fighters from the US instead of continuing development of the Pulgui. There is not one single plane or missile in this “documentary” that the Germans would have been able to put into production by 1946 - not one of them would be any threat to allied bombers. This “documentary” is so filled with untruths and and fiction - it is more like something the Nazi propaganda machine would turn out that what the reality of the facts about development of these weapons.
Yes, I've always found all the talk that Germany was somehow technologically more advanced than the allies. That's simply not true. They where surely not behind, but that doesnt say much. As you said they lacked production ability, but they also lacked just about everything else as well (fuel, ammunition, pilots, ground crews and so forth). None of these planes where ever remotely ready for war. Or at least they where about as ready as their allies counterparts, with the main difference being that the allies didn't need to put unfinished prototypes on the field.
@Toob247 Toob247 as said above, what you are referring to is pure mythology. Research the subject. Yes sure, germany had a some interesting technology, primarily in the rocket sector. But it wasnt any magic unknown stuff for sure the us wanted to retain that momentum after the war, they had a new weapon and needed to springboard the delivery system.... nor did they want to help the Soviets by helping them to springboard they usa....
Spot on assessment. There are really only two types of aircraft : experimental or obsolete! After reading you rebuttal to this "Nazi Hyped Tech" video I now understand why the History Channel is the Horseshit Channel. They only show such rubbish these days as UFO and Bigfoot shows. Another old joke from back in the day was: "Our German scientists were better than Nazi's Germany scientists." Sheer numbers and easy to field fix machines will beat any wunder waffen weapon that is to expensive and complicated for its crew to repair at on near the battle field.
@Toob247 Toob247 If you ignore the more severe issues with oil and strategic materials, it wasn't so much that the factories were being bombed as the fact that the Germans were welded to the "craftsman" style of production, where each worker had to be able to perform all of the tasks necessary to build a product. This meant that it was difficult for them to quickly ramp up production, and the fact that German industry was not put on a war footing until several years into the war didn't help. Compounding this problem was the fact that German designs were often subject to 'feature creep', which in the case of the PzKpfw V, VI, and VIb resulted in tanks significantly heavier than their design weight without corresponding increases in their engine power and drivetrain strength resulted in vehicles that were mechanically unreliable and complex to maintain, while American tanks were engineered for reliability and easy maintenance, since everything to maintain them in the field had to be shipped across the Atlantic.
Ironically some of these secret Luftwaffe planes were spotted in "IL-2 1946" in the fictitious 1946 campaigns and missions. And believe me these guys are hard to catch.
Says 20mm mg 151 ammo load though says 1 bullet can destroy a b 17 sounds like they meant the 30mm but got wrong calibre and thus wrong amount of ammunition
Volksjager was a concept, the He-162's official name was Spatz (sparrow), with an unofficial name of Salamander. The one deep factory was in an old salt mine, where the conditions were said to have been brutal and inhumane. If the war had gone on several months longer, the aircraft that would have turned any tide was the Horton Ho-229 A3 (as yet to be named) all wing fighter. Erwin Ziller, the primary test pilot for the 229 had a mock battle with an Me-262 and flew rings around it. Shortly thereafter, Ziller was killed when the 229 crashed due to engine failure.
Yes the History Cannel at one time was a very good channel with real gems showing as this film for example . It now has nothing to offer . What went wrong with it?
The whole idea of this plane was also the main weakness of the entire 3rd Reich: They expected/ hoped that technology could make up for BAD LEADERSHIP!!!! Geman engineers had long been very skilled, but Hitler NEVER was.
It is not just the bad leadership and the army ant mentality but the lack of resources. In 1945 the Germans were riding carts and walking home and the Allies were riding trucks by 10 different corporations, tanks by 7, and aircraft by 9. The Allies may not be known for expert machining but that is a myth. The Germans were beaten before they started. They were just unable to see it through the brainwashing.
@Will.J ------ A most remarkable posting. I'll be spending the next several weeks re-reading it to achieve an reasonable understanding if such be possible to me.
@@ggenergyarthurmiller5963 Nazi Germany used 700,000 horses in June 1941 already when they invaded the Soviet Union. They didn't have enough trucks for their logistics and had to use horses to supplement it. When France was invaded in 1940 most German divisions actually invaded by foot since few were mechanized. As for bad leadership. The allies arguably had worse leaders than Nazi Germany before the war and in the first few years when they constantly bungled up and missed good opportunities to stop Hitler and the Third Reich.
@Will.J it cane long before Hitler even thought about starting a political party, which he was partly talked into doing because he was so admired and influential among the troops in the trenches during his service in ww1." False. First of all the nazis already existed as a party under the name "German workers' party" before Hitler joined them. He did *not* neither found the party nor was he "partly talked" into it. The party already had antisemitic beliefs and were deeply nationalistic and pro-German. After the war Hitler remained in the army and was made an intelligence agent of the Reichswehr and was told to monitor and gather information of "radical new parties" which had popped up following Germany's defeat. While spying on the German Workers' Party Hitler found himself agreeing with much of what they said and believed that they had the right idea. As for "starting" the party. Anton Drexler was the leader of the German Workers' party and remained the leader when they changed their name to the Nazi Party (longer name actually) in 1920. Hitler was only made leader of the party in 1921. And NO, he was NOT admired and respected by the troops in the trenches. He was a lowly corporal for crying out loud! The men in the trenches recorded he was a loner who did his duty but never mingled with his fellow soldiers as he kept a "clean image". You're probably confusing him with Erich von Ludendorff the German general who really *was* admired by a lot of German soldiers and who many troops returning home did believe was the man who should lead Germany back to glory. Influential? How?? Nobody had heard of him outside his own sector and nobody saw anything in him which inspired them in the war itself. "Look up asteroidal impact evidence recently found by nasa and other scientific institutes, look up meltwater pulse 1B, look up platos description of the city/empire of atlantis and the date he gives for its destruction by flood." Utter nonsense. I knew your knowledge was lacking when you claimed Hitler started the nazi party and that he was admired by his peers in the army, but this just removes any doubt you're out of your wits. "What I'm getting at, is these 7000 year old texts are describing aircraft and their multiple propulsion methods, radio communication, atomic science and fission bombs, electricity, firearms, advanced astronomy, all before it is said that humans conceptualized a circle rolling and its use as a wheel." Pseudo-archeology, ancient legends and "mysteries" for paranoid tinfoil hats and speculative nonsense has no place here. Kindly be quiet before you make an even bigger fool out of yourself. Be quiet. It's clear you know nothing. Nothing.
@Ferroequus Domain Would you rather enjoy killing your own kind or fight side by side for the survival of your own species...because what you just said...the day is not far when we will fight to survive.
This video gets a lot of stuff wrong. Forward swept wings are not for speed, they're for maneuverability and the v1 did not have a ram jet, it had a pulse jet.
The video clearly showed the characteristic supersonic exhaust pattern from the pulse engine. Overall, a good video that highlights how close the margin of victory was for the Allies. Also amazed at the technology developed during the war even if the video got some of it wrong.
German pilots said attacking a gaggle of B-17s was like trying to pick up a porcupine that was on fire.And,attacking alone,ones past sins pasted before ones eyes.
The US had already been working on a flying wing before Northrup engineers looked at the Horton in the eighties, (as they knew about the Horton from WWII), but there was already the design of the "flying flapjack," and the N-1M of 1940. Plus, they had already been testing stealth technologies. Jack Northrup had been looking at the flying wing design, with the N-1M in 1940, and had made a bomber, just after WWII, but these air frames are unstable, and they required fly by wire to work correctly, which hadn't been developed yet. That led to the B-2, which Jack lived to see.. This can be found in another video in this series. The bad decisions of the US military, during WWII, are why the US has continued its black projects program, during the cold war, and during peacetime.
The landing speed and safe flying speed were way too high for operational pilots. The Luftwaffe high command still had some sense and kept them on the ground.
I know right. Supposed to be concerned with the preservation of their nation, so what do they do? They fucking give the Russian's that amazing engine. Wow England you can't fix stupid. What the fuck we're they thinking? This is one of the all time great mind fucks of all time. Please someone explain that to me, did I miss something?... Holy shit
Anthony Greene The Manhattan project was compromised by British spy’s passing info to Stalin. After that the Brits wanted help to make their own Nukes . At that point the Americans told them to make their own damn Bomb , which they did
I may be wrong, however, the United States Air Force flying Wing also had a small radar signature despite being made of aluminum. I think the shape did have something to do with this characteristic.
Robert Dawson ... actually the 229 was built for speed and range, there was no need for stealth, they built a wing to the same specifications and tested a chain home type radar against it and found it only reduced the RCS by 20%, which would’ve been lost with the exposed engine fan blades! In 1945, radar was used to warn about air raids or to help Night fighters locate bombers, with the 229 able to fly at near Mach 1 speeds, it didn’t need stealth ... interceptions by allied fighter would’ve been all but impossible anyway!??
Slight correction :- the Germans knew how to make good aircraft glues. The problem was that the only factory was destroyed by allied bombing (late 1944 if I remember correctly). From then on they were knowingly making do with inferior materials. Given the short life expectancy of aircraft by that time, it was a reasonable compromise.
I am surprised the video did not mention the challenge of controlling the jet fighters at high speeds. They were not very maneuverable and had no where near the actuation force needed to be effective high speed aircraft. Essentially rockets.
You haven`t seen many documentaries have you? All these wonder weapons that Germany was devising were also under development by every other major power at the same time.
Both the flying wing and the forward swept wing designs are notoriously difficult to fly under certain conditions without some form of computer assistance. Both benefit from fly by wire immensely.
ConvairDart106 The horten brothers for Germany did during ww2 . We have the only one in a warehouse of the Smithsonian. Our modern one was heavily influenced by that one from Germany.
Royal Navy test pilot Eric "winkle because of his small size" Brown flew the single jet that was above the the fuselage. He flew that jet and said in so many words, "it was a hell of a jet"
@@jamespasquali1742 The Ta 183 was designed by Kurt Tank but none flew, he did make some in Argentina but they did not work well, he then went to India and made the very different HAL HF 24 which was ten years too late when it entered service, it was not too bad a design for the early 1950's but not so good in the late 1960's, still it did work. The Horten brothers never made much apart from gliders.
@@barrierodliffe4155 When I worked on this documentary I pointed out that Hans Multhopp designed the Ta 183, but the producers told me they needed to simplify the story, and gave that credit to his boss, Kurt Tank. When Tank modified the design and came up with the Pulqui II for Argentina he moved the wing up to the shoulder, which gave the plane horrible stall characteristics at slow speeds. To add insult to injury, Tank blamed Multhopp. Reimar Horten, who lived the rest of his life in Argentina, actually warned Tank about the stall problem, but Tank wouldn't listen.
Can you imagine being the first test pilot to fly the glued together plane? Lol I think I would fake sick that day, of course that would probably get you killed anyway
So you guys are basically saying that if ww2 would have been like 10 minutes longer, new York would be nuked, every allied strategic bomber would have been shot down by some wooden planes and the Luftwaffe alone would had defeated the entire world?
@Matthew FamiliaFamilia a ramjet and a pulsejet are different things, ramjets use the high speed of air to compress it instead of a compressor stage. Pulsejets are different. if the V1 did use a pulsejet then it wouldn't have the infamous buzz that it does.
@Matthew Familia It wasn't 'self guiding' The V1 had a gyro and a small windmill propellor to count revolutions, cut the fuel when a given number was reached and tip the bomb into a dive. Some carried a small transmitter so the Germans could track them using DF equipment to find out where they were falling. The Allies often jammed this signal and many of the transmitters were faulty, having been sabotaged by the slave workers who built them
@Matthew Familia No. It flew the course set, like an arrow. It could not correct for wind shear or direction. It was a dumb bomb pushed along by a pulsejet
shesh that thing wouldve wobbled left and right like crazy.. putting guns on target wouldve been waaaay harder. This thing wouldnt have made much of an impact.
There is no way that planes such as the Ta-183, He-162, Hs 132 and Go-229 could have tipped the balance if they entered service sooner. By 1944, the Germans were fighting a 3 front war -- Western, Eastern, and Italian -- and by the time the Battle of the Bulge failed and Operation Bodenplatte (to wipe out many Allied aircraft and pilots) failed by January 1945, all of Germany's resources were exhausted. These aircraft and a successful Battle of the Bulge could have prolonged the war for a few more months, but Germany still would have been defeated. The only way the war could have continued into 1946 where these planes would be able to tip the balance would be if the Me-262, Arado 234 entered service in 1943 and the other aircraft like the Hs 132, He 162, Ta-183 and Go-229 had entered service shortly after D-Day at the latest. Or, if major battles on the 3 fronts were disastrous for the Allies: Battle of Kursk led to a stalemate with no side gaining or losing any territory, or Germany managed to hold onto most of its territory during the Battle of Bagration, D-Day failed or the Allies had to try again months later, Operation Husky failed or had to try again in 1944 or the Germans and Italians managed to push the Allies out of Italy from the Gustav Line.
None of this is outstanding in any way. About everything developed had been in development globally since the interwar period. in the late war the nazis threw went full panic mode and allocated most resources to improve those existing designs but to little effect. Well done Fritz, you invented jet planes that regularly explode and lots of useless prototypes
@@itsa_possum So? Had ANY of these developments except the radar any major success like the germans had that were developed in such a short time like from 1933-1945?
Chao Wingching Hongfingshong PingPangPong “any major success”, mate radar and sonar tech were hardly understood by the Germans and helped utterly destroy the Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine. Additionally Britain developed some of the most complex computing machines. That aside, what do you think the germans “invented” that was “successful”? They rolled out a jet plagued by structural failures due to severely inferior metallurgy. Few months later Britain flew their jet fighter, one that could operate longer than 10 hours without exploding. Rocketry was a globally understood concept and just like jet engines (a British invention btw) from the interwar period. An interesting toy but pretty useless. And that’s it. Worthless resource hogs, a self destructive plane and a batch of ramshackle untested blueprints. Well done lads, truly superior tech
Why the heck did they even mention the B-32 Dominator? It was essentially the poor man's version of the Superfortress. I want to think they meant the B-36 Peacemaker, which was under development and _would_ have been able to strike Germany from bases in the East Coast of the US, unlike the Dominator.
A reflection of the Nazi stupidity. The advanced aircraft hide a reality. The Soviets heading for Berlin after Kursk in 1943. There was a reason Hitler wanted bombers...to defeat the Soviet advance on Germany. Even if the Luftwaffe had stopped the bombing from the Allies the Soviets would have conquered Germany. The record shows that the Soviets had successes with rockets , jets , delta winged aircraft etc. but Stalin put them on hold to win Barbarossa. Hindsight will confirm that the Soviets made the right decision.
The german defeat was brought about by a superior force -- the Allies. Despite these technology advances, the German armed forces were crushed. The lesson here is that wars are fought and won by men, not machines.
@@PeterVB00 Isnt the lesson the opposite of that? Did Germany not have the most technically proficient soldiers and general staff? Or at least a lot of production with pretty good technology is better than the best technology with no production.
@@PeterVB00 Also the fact that there was no technological advantage. They lost most of their airforce fighting against Britain (who with their radar actually had a technological advantage) and the following jet and prototype aircraft were either useless or like the me-262 both useless, matched by better trained p-51 pilots AND not unique as the RAF had working jet fighters as well
Ironic how the French, who totally ignored efficient and successful aircraft development before the war, managed to nab the best German developers after the war. How did they know what a good aircraft was at that point? Experts estimate they wouldn't have been anywhere near ready for WW2 until 1943-44. And that was just the aircraft designs - their manufacturing structure was woefully behind the times.
@@123fockewolf The He162 was trialled with 2x 30mm, but the recoil was too great for the airframe. Later versions with longer and stronger airframes were planned and would have had 2x 30mm cannons but were never built.
So, according to the animation, the Trifuegal was purposed to knock out B29s. That would have been an interesting feat. There were no B29s deployed in Europe. It would also be interesting to know how they avoided gyroscopic forces without an anti-torque rotor or other means to keep the fuselage from spinning in the opposite direction of the rotors.
The Dutch NHI-3 helicopter used rotor-tip mounted ramjets and the French Djinn helicopter, which entered service in the 1950s (including in Germany), used rotor-tip mounted jets. Neither of these had a tail rotor because they didn't need one since there was no torque reaction to counteract. It's true that the B29 was not used in Europe, but it was always possible that it would be, therefore it was logical for Germany to design weapons such as the Trifluegel that would be used against high flying B29s.
@jaydee040 I can see my whole reply so I do not know why you cannot, so you say roll control would not be enough so how is the massive torque from a piston aircraft controlled? And there is a jet tipped rotor helicopter that does not have a tail rotor, how can that be?
@jaydee040 so you readily admit that a rudder can counteract the enormous torque from a powerful piston engine yet you fail to grasp the fact that minimal torque from bearing could not rotate a aircraft weighing many tons and sitting on the ground, once is has left the ground airflow from the rotor over the control surfaces would be the same as prop wash over a rudder. I noticed you did not answer my question regarding the helicopter.
The 262 was designed as a fighter . Hitler demanded that it would be changed to a fighter bomber . As a fighter the 262 was and still is awesome for its day .
Just so you know it's all wrong, the Manhattan project consisted a few nazi Scientists therefore even if the war prolonged the US would've technically never been able to make the bomb, and the only country that was trying to make a jet were the Germans not the US, British, or Soviets only the Germans. The world also took every idea that the Germans were going to make or plan on making away and called it "there own."
James Kim The US had a few Germany scientists but Hitler was stupid and never put enough resources or effort. Germany was too concerned with quality over quantity. Get out of here, you idealistic Wehraboo. Allied jets would be flying over the already crippled Luftwaffle. Germany could not win the war.
***** Hitler was a complete power hungry moron. Lets outline some stupid decisions that made him the idiot we all know. 1. Battle Of Britain - Hitler ordered the Luftwaffe to stop bombing the almost defeated RAF bases and start bombing cities which gave the RAF time to regroup and incentive to strike back even harder. The Luftwaffe lost the Battle Of Britain because of that. 2. Invasion Of Russia - Against his advisory team, Hitler invaded Russia with minimal supplies because he thought it would be a quick victory. German army was defeated and lost large amounts of equipment. 3. Cancellation Of Next Gen Weapon Projects - After the fall of France in 1940, Hitler stopped new weapon projects and kept old technology. This proved fatal later on when Germany was outnumbered with horrible tanks. 4. Devoting Resources In Stupid Places - Hitler wanted wonder weapons which were extremely costly. The Tiger tanks are a perfect example. Unreliable, expensive and resource guzzlers. Germany couldn't afford expensive vehicles and paid for it dearly against large Allied numbers. 5. Me-262 as a bomber - Literally fucking insane. He turned the first operational jet interceptor into a bomber and it was completely ineffective. 6. No Women Laborers - Allies used women in the factories to free up men to fight. Hitler did not allow this. 7. Battle Of Kursk - Hitler ordered a massive attack against the Russians at Kursk. The German armies last great offensive flung themselves against massed Russian defenders into and a crushing defeat for Germany. 8. War With The USA - Yeah, lets just declare war on the biggest supplier on weapons in the world. They proceed to kick Hitlers ass. Complete idiot like I said.
If the bombs are armed and they get hit right, the whole plane instantaneously goes up. Used to happen to Lancasters a lot with attacks from below/the belly, lack of a lower turret probably didn't help it. But you're right otherwise, it being 20 or 30mm just means a bigger hole in the 2mm aluminium skin.
These are all interesting ideas; however, they all ideas that were ahead of the existing technology. Germany needed a scientific board like Lord Beaverbrook had to evaluate these ideas and cut out some of these time-wasting projects.
Paul Lubliner More to the point, would they have gone up against Meteors that actually flew during the war, the L133 was ditched and some of the technology ended up in the P80. The L133 was not supersonic, it was designed to fly at speeds close to supersonic but it was still topped out at 625-630 mph. To be supersonic at altitude you’ve got to top 660mph+ So to answer your question, they wouldn’t as the L133 didn’t fly, it didn’t go supersonic and they Luftwaffe would’ve been dealing with British jet fighters that were already flying during 45.
Germany was lucky that the allies had occupied most of the country when the a bombs were dropped on japan..because Germany would have been their first choice
I remember when this originally aired. Recorded it on VHS and used to watch it all the time, along with the Japanese and Allied episodes. Good times.
The History Channel was a very good channel back in the day. Now they dont show anything remotely interesting anymore. what happened? Same with the discovery history channel .
Yes ME TOO ! I also recorded it also on a trusty old VHS roughly 20 years ago. Weird thing is my Sony DVD player is no longer working . It wont play anymore. Happened a couple of month ago and i only got that DVD player ten years ago. My old VHS still does and its 25 years old . Now all the recordings all take place digitally but i like my old tape collections . They are like books which equally take up space in the same manner on shelves not that this bothers me.
My grandad was responsible for 35 downed German planes in ww2. Still to this day holds the record as worst mechanic the Luftwaffe ever had
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Or the best saboteur...
That is so funny.
People shouldn't make such tasteless jokes about WW2. My Grandad died at Auschwitz.
He got drunk and fell out of the machine gun tower...
How did Hitler tie his shoes?
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Love it Rich x
Yeah, these old History Channel programs got some stuff wrong, but *at least they were about history.*
You mean a fake tv show about a crooked pawn shop run by a bald guy and his son's goofy fat friend in North Las Vegas isnt history ?
What about two guys from Iowa traveling around the US buying junk with their slutty female friend with 200 tattoos. Now thats history
@@rbeck3200tb40 lol
Nah, ya' all don't know what ya talking about. The real history is amateur golddiggers failing every season.
You guys don't know shit, history is a couple getting married at their first meeting..
don't forget all the history lessons learned in ANCIENT ALIENS
Old times when History had actual history shows...
Thank you for the upload.
Watching + learning from NSW Australia.
The CGI footage (at about 9:47 into the video) of the He162 shooting down a Spitfire shows a Mk.24 Spitfire which was not manufactured until 1948, and belonging to No. 80 Squadron (Squadron Code W2). There is also a report that the only kill by a He162 was of a Typhoon on 4 May 1945 by a Lt. R. Schmitt.
Blame that on the cgi people at the History Channel.
Not to mention the "kill" was given to a nearby flak unit
The reason for the breakup of the wood assemblies was that we bombed the Tego Chemical adhesives factory. The ersatz replacement was acid based and would compromise the wood joining. Tego’s product was neutral and was quite effective. After the War Winky Brown tested the aircraft and was impressed with it’s simplicity and advanced design. He thought it was basically a good design worthy of further development of the Volksfighter!
History overstated. The flying wing was not forgotten. As a grade schooler in the 1060's I knew about it from basic airplane books in the school library. Popular science told us back then it was the future. History overstated.
I miss the old history channel
I do to.
The channel formerly known as History.
hitler channel
@@@johnny6148 - Save the Jews Channel
What, don't you like Ancient Aliens? :(
The intermission sequence brings back memories.
One of the big problems with this “documentary” is it does not address the fact that by early 1944 Germany was having big issues with producing any of it’s current high tech weapons due to lack of specialized raw materials - which effected everything from the quality of the steel for tanks to engines for the Me 262 - the jet engines for Me 262 lasted at best only 20 hours before needing to be overhauled or replaced. Even if the war lasted another year Germany didn’t have the raw materials to build new high tech planes - and since most were only drawings - time to work out any inevitable bugs in the designs - in early 1945 the Germans were trying to find ways to build volks fighters out of wood - not to mention the great loss of pilots - they didn’t have the man power or fuel to train the few men they had left - none of these planes would have ever been able to be produced even if some how the war had gone to 1946.. before the landing at Normandy in June of 1944 - the allied bombing effort had done major damage to the war factories of Germany.
Also the things they say Germany could have put in to the air is pure hyperbole - a good example is all the talk about the possibility of an awesome foreword swept fighter jet - it would have never happened - forward swept wings are highly unstable - the reason the US didn’t have a aircraft with forward swept wings until 50 years after WW2 - is because a computer is need to help keep the plane stable in flight - foreword swept wings are highly unstable in flight - if the Germans had tried to fly a jet with forward swept wings - it would just crash - that’s why it has only been used on experiential planes and no air forces to this day fly a fighter with forward swept wings.
The Focke-Wulf Ta 183 had only made it to the stage of being a model being a model tested in a wind tunnel - for it to have reached even the 1st flying plane was years off. The work on the Me262 was started in 1939 - the 1st unit to train and fly the Me262 wasn’t formed until late April of 1944. Although the Me262 was put into service it still had many problem and had a very short flight duration of 60-90 minutes. As the Ta 183 used a new engine - which would have many issues to work - by the end of the war in May, 1945 only prototypes had been built - it would have taken Germany at least 3 more years before it would have been able to start producing this new fighter - it would have never happened anytime in 1946 - more like late 1948 before production could have been started on the TA 183. The TA 183 was never “ordered into production” - it couldn’t be produced because even a prototype was never built - heck even a mock up was never built - the only thing ever built of the TA 183 was small models for wind tunnel testing.
There is a great deal of bad history and tech in this “documentary” - it almost If it was written by the propaganda from Nazi Germany. There as so many lies in this “documentary” that I lost track of them all - it is more fiction than fact.
The Ruhrstahl Ru 344 X-4 - the missile that the TA 183 was suppose to use as its’ primary weapon had been in development since 1936 - yet it was never put into service with and it was impossible to be used by a fighter because the problems in guiding both the missile and the aircraft at the same time proved unworkable in testing. Even though Germany made up to 1,000 of this missile - it never entered service. After the war France tried to further develop the middle for their own use, 200 units were manufactured between 1947 and 1950. However, the program was disbanded due to the dangerous pre-flight refuelling involved (the hypergolic nitric acid and Tonka combination was highly explosive).
The Argentine jet fighter, Pulqui II ( based on the TA 183) that was built by the designer of the TA 183 - only 4 prototypes were built by 1959 - development was comparatively problematic and lengthy, with two of the four prototypes being lost in fatal crashes. So the Argentine government bought F86s fighters from the US instead of continuing development of the Pulgui.
There is not one single plane or missile in this “documentary” that the Germans would have been able to put into production by 1946 - not one of them would be any threat to allied bombers.
This “documentary” is so filled with untruths and and fiction - it is more like something the Nazi propaganda machine would turn out that what the reality of the facts about development of these weapons.
Yes, I've always found all the talk that Germany was somehow technologically more advanced than the allies. That's simply not true. They where surely not behind, but that doesnt say much. As you said they lacked production ability, but they also lacked just about everything else as well (fuel, ammunition, pilots, ground crews and so forth). None of these planes where ever remotely ready for war. Or at least they where about as ready as their allies counterparts, with the main difference being that the allies didn't need to put unfinished prototypes on the field.
@Toob247 Toob247 as said above, what you are referring to is pure mythology. Research the subject. Yes sure, germany had a some interesting technology, primarily in the rocket sector. But it wasnt any magic unknown stuff for sure the us wanted to retain that momentum after the war, they had a new weapon and needed to springboard the delivery system.... nor did they want to help the Soviets by helping them to springboard they usa....
Spot on assessment. There are really only two types of aircraft : experimental or obsolete! After reading you rebuttal to this "Nazi Hyped Tech" video I now understand why the History Channel is the Horseshit Channel. They only show such rubbish these days as UFO and Bigfoot shows. Another old joke from back in the day was: "Our German scientists were better than Nazi's Germany scientists." Sheer numbers and easy to field fix machines will beat any wunder waffen weapon that is to expensive and complicated for its crew to repair at on near the battle field.
@Toob247 Toob247 If you ignore the more severe issues with oil and strategic materials, it wasn't so much that the factories were being bombed as the fact that the Germans were welded to the "craftsman" style of production, where each worker had to be able to perform all of the tasks necessary to build a product. This meant that it was difficult for them to quickly ramp up production, and the fact that German industry was not put on a war footing until several years into the war didn't help. Compounding this problem was the fact that German designs were often subject to 'feature creep', which in the case of the PzKpfw V, VI, and VIb resulted in tanks significantly heavier than their design weight without corresponding increases in their engine power and drivetrain strength resulted in vehicles that were mechanically unreliable and complex to maintain, while American tanks were engineered for reliability and easy maintenance, since everything to maintain them in the field had to be shipped across the Atlantic.
Ironically some of these secret Luftwaffe planes were spotted in "IL-2 1946" in the fictitious 1946 campaigns and missions. And believe me these guys are hard to catch.
Hoping History Channel return this documentary
6:28 "20mm Cannons"
*shows Mk108 30mm Cannons*
nice one
Pete is never wrong facts are so dry
@Pete is never wrong good to know :)
The 20mm cannon were so large they were 30mm...
Says 20mm mg 151 ammo load though says 1 bullet can destroy a b 17 sounds like they meant the 30mm but got wrong calibre and thus wrong amount of ammunition
AWSOME PRESENTATION. Thanks to the producers and the tech staff.. Excellent.. Woow.🔤😀🐟🐡
Volksjager was a concept, the He-162's official name was Spatz (sparrow), with an unofficial name of Salamander. The one deep factory was in an old salt mine, where the conditions were said to have been brutal and inhumane. If the war had gone on several months longer, the aircraft that would have turned any tide was the Horton Ho-229 A3 (as yet to be named) all wing fighter. Erwin Ziller, the primary test pilot for the 229 had a mock battle with an Me-262 and flew rings around it. Shortly thereafter, Ziller was killed when the 229 crashed due to engine failure.
Maybe not so.good the USA flying wing Northrop was not a success I believe it was very unstable in flight
If only we still have the spirit of innovation nowadays instead of doing things the same uninspired ways.
GERMAN SCIENCE IS THE BEST SCIENCE IN THE WORLD!
Rubbish
was.
@@ziegle9876 Yep. It was even so good the Germans made a jet plane too advanced for its time.
@@kris8742 r/wooooosh
@Pete is never wrong Nope. I held down the shift key.
we'd all be saying "hail" had any of these weapons blazzed full scale against the allies.
Thank heaven they couldn't
This was a great Docu, made me miss the old history channel.
Yes the History Cannel at one time was a very good channel with real gems showing as this film for example . It now has nothing to offer . What went wrong with it?
The whole idea of this plane was also the main weakness of the entire 3rd Reich: They expected/ hoped that technology could make up for BAD LEADERSHIP!!!! Geman engineers had long been very skilled, but Hitler NEVER was.
the trunp of the age
It is not just the bad leadership and the army ant mentality but the lack of resources. In 1945 the Germans were riding carts and walking home and the Allies were riding trucks by 10 different corporations, tanks by 7, and aircraft by 9. The Allies may not be known for expert machining but that is a myth. The Germans were beaten before they started. They were just unable to see it through the brainwashing.
@Will.J ------ A most remarkable posting. I'll be spending the next several weeks re-reading it to achieve an reasonable understanding if such be possible to me.
@@ggenergyarthurmiller5963 Nazi Germany used 700,000 horses in June 1941 already when they invaded the Soviet Union. They didn't have enough trucks for their logistics and had to use horses to supplement it. When France was invaded in 1940 most German divisions actually invaded by foot since few were mechanized.
As for bad leadership. The allies arguably had worse leaders than Nazi Germany before the war and in the first few years when they constantly bungled up and missed good opportunities to stop Hitler and the Third Reich.
@Will.J it cane long before Hitler even thought about starting a political party, which he was partly talked into doing because he was so admired and influential among the troops in the trenches during his service in ww1." False. First of all the nazis already existed as a party under the name "German workers' party" before Hitler joined them. He did *not* neither found the party nor was he "partly talked" into it. The party already had antisemitic beliefs and were deeply nationalistic and pro-German. After the war Hitler remained in the army and was made an intelligence agent of the Reichswehr and was told to monitor and gather information of "radical new parties" which had popped up following Germany's defeat. While spying on the German Workers' Party Hitler found himself agreeing with much of what they said and believed that they had the right idea.
As for "starting" the party. Anton Drexler was the leader of the German Workers' party and remained the leader when they changed their name to the Nazi Party (longer name actually) in 1920. Hitler was only made leader of the party in 1921.
And NO, he was NOT admired and respected by the troops in the trenches. He was a lowly corporal for crying out loud! The men in the trenches recorded he was a loner who did his duty but never mingled with his fellow soldiers as he kept a "clean image". You're probably confusing him with Erich von Ludendorff the German general who really *was* admired by a lot of German soldiers and who many troops returning home did believe was the man who should lead Germany back to glory.
Influential? How?? Nobody had heard of him outside his own sector and nobody saw anything in him which inspired them in the war itself.
"Look up asteroidal impact evidence recently found by nasa and other scientific institutes, look up meltwater pulse 1B, look up platos description of the city/empire of atlantis and the date he gives for its destruction by flood." Utter nonsense. I knew your knowledge was lacking when you claimed Hitler started the nazi party and that he was admired by his peers in the army, but this just removes any doubt you're out of your wits.
"What I'm getting at, is these 7000 year old texts are describing aircraft and their multiple propulsion methods, radio communication, atomic science and fission bombs, electricity, firearms, advanced astronomy, all before it is said that humans conceptualized a circle rolling and its use as a wheel."
Pseudo-archeology, ancient legends and "mysteries" for paranoid tinfoil hats and speculative nonsense has no place here. Kindly be quiet before you make an even bigger fool out of yourself.
Be quiet. It's clear you know nothing. Nothing.
It was a mistake, the 20 mm cannon was a 30mm cannon if you look at the picture it says so.
So many talented people killed in war. Imagine if they worked on space exploration humanity would be somewhere else now.
Learn from your mistakes or repeat the lesson.
@Ferroequus Domain Would you rather enjoy killing your own kind or fight side by side for the survival of your own species...because what you just said...the day is not far when we will fight to survive.
There is literally nothing threatening our species from extinction. There's atleast 3x more people living today than in 1940 and living 20-30% longer.
@Ferroequus Domain are the aliens Christian's.... Deus Vult! Deus Vult!
remember back when history channel documented history not pawn shops, ancient aliens?
This video gets a lot of stuff wrong. Forward swept wings are not for speed, they're for maneuverability and the v1 did not have a ram jet, it had a pulse jet.
also they said it was equipped to twin 20mm cannons, it had twin 30mm cannons the MK108
The video clearly showed the characteristic supersonic exhaust pattern from the pulse engine. Overall, a good video that highlights how close the margin of victory was for the Allies. Also amazed at the technology developed during the war even if the video got some of it wrong.
@@HawkeyeB22 Their was two versions one with 20mm's
@ 6:29 The narrationist describes the CANNON as 20mm. The Placard proudly proclaims the punishing pusher of pellets, as 30mm
Amazing program
German pilots said attacking a gaggle of B-17s was like trying to pick up a porcupine that was on fire.And,attacking alone,ones past sins pasted before ones eyes.
The US had already been working on a flying wing before Northrup engineers looked at the Horton in the eighties, (as they knew about the Horton from WWII), but there was already the design of the "flying flapjack," and the N-1M of 1940. Plus, they had already been testing stealth technologies. Jack Northrup had been looking at the flying wing design, with the N-1M in 1940, and had made a bomber, just after WWII, but these air frames are unstable, and they required fly by wire to work correctly, which hadn't been developed yet. That led to the B-2, which Jack lived to see.. This can be found in another video in this series.
The bad decisions of the US military, during WWII, are why the US has continued its black projects program, during the cold war, and during peacetime.
Bullshit!!
The landing speed and safe flying speed were way too high for operational pilots. The Luftwaffe high command still had some sense and kept them on the ground.
So the Germans designed the MIG 15, the stealth bomber and the AK-47, cool
they did yes.
@jaydee040 cause they did?
The father of the atomic bomb was also of German ancestry, his parents were German immigrants.
jaydee040 j. Robert Oppenheimer is one of the fathers of the atomic bomb. He was the child of German immigrants.
@jaydee040 Someone forgotten Frank Whittle ?
professor Erickson forgot to mention how the British "sold" (they never got paid) their advanced jet engine (RR Nene) to the soviets in 1947
I know right. Supposed to be concerned with the preservation of their nation, so what do they do? They fucking give the Russian's that amazing engine. Wow England you can't fix stupid. What the fuck we're they thinking? This is one of the all time great mind fucks of all time. Please someone explain that to me, did I miss something?... Holy shit
Anthony Greene
The Manhattan project was compromised by British spy’s passing info to Stalin. After that the Brits wanted help to make their own Nukes . At that point the Americans told them to make their own damn Bomb , which they did
You may see one HEINKEL 162 hanging in the Imperial War museum in London.
Manuel Camelo - And from what vanquished nation do you hail from Sir? 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Finn Sørensen - That’s the exact one shown in the video.
Manuel Camelo - Thank you. During WW2 my late father used to guard Italian troops that had surrendered. 🏳️ He said they were a great bunch of lads.
Seeing these secret German planes in this documentary feels like made by aliens from outer space.
The Horton flying wing’s low radar signature was helped by being built with wood laminates which reflect radar waves back poorly
That was the Genuis of the Mosquito as well plywood aircraft don't reflect radar waves as well as aluminum.
I may be wrong, however, the United States Air Force flying Wing also had a small radar signature despite being made of aluminum. I think the shape did have something to do with this characteristic.
Robert Dawson ... actually the 229 was built for speed and range, there was no need for stealth, they built a wing to the same specifications and tested a chain home type radar against it and found it only reduced the RCS by 20%, which would’ve been lost with the exposed engine fan blades! In 1945, radar was used to warn about air raids or to help Night fighters locate bombers, with the 229 able to fly at near Mach 1 speeds, it didn’t need stealth ... interceptions by allied fighter would’ve been all but impossible anyway!??
If you are watching this, you are obviously not already subscribed to Mark Felton's You Tube channel. Felton rules!
True. Felton is a legend.
Interesting "what if" at the end.
Yes one can dream, sniff.
I love the History Channel. Ask me anything about Nazis, Ancient Aliens, Shady Pawn Shops or Junk Picking.
Slight correction :- the Germans knew how to make good aircraft glues. The problem was that the only factory was destroyed by allied bombing (late 1944 if I remember correctly). From then on they were knowingly making do with inferior materials. Given the short life expectancy of aircraft by that time, it was a reasonable compromise.
I am surprised the video did not mention the challenge of controlling the jet fighters at high speeds. They were not very maneuverable and had no where near the actuation force needed to be effective high speed aircraft. Essentially rockets.
Njemačka tehnologija je bila najnaprednija u to vrijeme..
My dad was in the 82nd airborne division in WW2 your documentary is awesome, informativeand great to see all those nazi planes🎉❤
Fantastic video, one of the best I've seen !
You haven`t seen many documentaries have you? All these wonder weapons that Germany was devising were also under development by every other major power at the same time.
Looks like the grand dad of the A10 warthog
@James Eger please tell what does this last ditch design have in common with a modern cas aircraft
@James Eger find some evidence that links the 162 to the A-10 XD
According to the documentary, no one attempted the flying wing until 1980, totally avoiding the mention of Jack Northrop, and his YB-49!
Here is a link ruclips.net/video/7Dfj3SeMI-s/видео.html
He wasn't talking about a 'flying wing' but a forward swept wing.
Both the flying wing and the forward swept wing designs are notoriously difficult to fly under certain conditions without some form of computer assistance. Both benefit from fly by wire immensely.
ConvairDart106 The horten brothers for Germany did during ww2 . We have the only one in a warehouse of the Smithsonian. Our modern one was heavily influenced by that one from Germany.
That sort of thing was typical of the history channel
Royal Navy test pilot Eric "winkle because of his small size" Brown flew the single jet that was above the the fuselage. He flew that jet and said in so many words, "it was a hell of a jet"
Brown test flew the Comet too
The Ta183 was built in Argentina after the war by German engineers that escaped at the end of WW2.
cannoneer155mm was it built by the Horton Brothers?
@@jamespasquali1742
The Ta 183 was designed by Kurt Tank but none flew, he did make some in Argentina but they did not work well, he then went to India and made the very different HAL HF 24 which was ten years too late when it entered service, it was not too bad a design for the early 1950's but not so good in the late 1960's, still it did work.
The Horten brothers never made much apart from gliders.
@Mr. Mebemae Mebenae
And the Roots brothers made cars.
@@barrierodliffe4155 When I worked on this documentary I pointed out that Hans Multhopp designed the Ta 183, but the producers told me they needed to simplify the story, and gave that credit to his boss, Kurt Tank. When Tank modified the design and came up with the Pulqui II for Argentina he moved the wing up to the shoulder, which gave the plane horrible stall characteristics at slow speeds. To add insult to injury, Tank blamed Multhopp. Reimar Horten, who lived the rest of his life in Argentina, actually warned Tank about the stall problem, but Tank wouldn't listen.
Can you imagine being the first test pilot to fly the glued together plane? Lol I think I would fake sick that day, of course that would probably get you killed anyway
At 2:40 the Blum & Voss prototype looks a lot like a Mig-15 without a conventional tail.
It had swept wings, so maybe a slightly similar appearance but a very different design
That was the inspiration after all they (soviets) had a vast array of German aeronautical tech's and engineers.
Made similar comment before seeing you’d. Cheers!
So you guys are basically saying that if ww2 would have been like 10 minutes longer, new York would be nuked, every allied strategic bomber would have been shot down by some wooden planes and the Luftwaffe alone would had defeated the entire world?
In a year not 10 minutes.
The conclusions at the end are specious and without foundation. Jack Northrup didn't take his lead from the Heinkle brothers...
Nor from the HORTEN brothers.
Interesting old secret Luftwaffe Aircraft projects during WW2
Really cool looking, and Fast! But too little too late.
bombers blew up thier fuel ..just a pointless effort to make 900 peoples fighters they could hardy fly thier airforce
Aha, I see that everybody steals other's technology!
he V-1 did not use a ramjet engine, it used a pulsejet engine
@Matthew FamiliaFamilia a ramjet and a pulsejet are different things, ramjets use the high speed of air to compress it instead of a compressor stage. Pulsejets are different. if the V1 did use a pulsejet then it wouldn't have the infamous buzz that it does.
@Matthew Familia ye, I agrre
@Matthew Familia truly a marvel of ingenuity, even if it did come from one of the most brutal dictators in History
@Matthew Familia It wasn't 'self guiding'
The V1 had a gyro and a small windmill propellor to count revolutions, cut the fuel when a given number was reached and tip the bomb into a dive. Some carried a small transmitter so the Germans could track them using DF equipment to find out where they were falling. The Allies often jammed this signal and many of the transmitters were faulty, having been sabotaged by the slave workers who built them
@Matthew Familia No. It flew the course set, like an arrow. It could not correct for wind shear or direction. It was a dumb bomb pushed along by a pulsejet
The luftwaffe lost because of goring incapability of leading it. This was obvious in the battle of britain.
I do like your Chanel so I subed
Michael Talbot - I like Chanel as well. It smells so nice.
The Ta183 was unproven. It would likely have been a pedestrian design, no better in performance, and possibly worse, than the Me262 or He162
6:28 armed with 2 huge 20mm cannons ...What i see is a 30mm cannons....
Back when actual history was on the history channel.
shesh that thing wouldve wobbled left and right like crazy.. putting guns on target wouldve been waaaay harder. This thing wouldnt have made much of an impact.
very enriching fact
2:43. Resembles MiG 15 somewhat.
There is no way that planes such as the Ta-183, He-162, Hs 132 and Go-229 could have tipped the balance if they entered service sooner. By 1944, the Germans were fighting a 3 front war -- Western, Eastern, and Italian -- and by the time the Battle of the Bulge failed and Operation Bodenplatte (to wipe out many Allied aircraft and pilots) failed by January 1945, all of Germany's resources were exhausted. These aircraft and a successful Battle of the Bulge could have prolonged the war for a few more months, but Germany still would have been defeated.
The only way the war could have continued into 1946 where these planes would be able to tip the balance would be if the Me-262, Arado 234 entered service in 1943 and the other aircraft like the Hs 132, He 162, Ta-183 and Go-229 had entered service shortly after D-Day at the latest. Or, if major battles on the 3 fronts were disastrous for the Allies: Battle of Kursk led to a stalemate with no side gaining or losing any territory, or Germany managed to hold onto most of its territory during the Battle of Bagration, D-Day failed or the Allies had to try again months later, Operation Husky failed or had to try again in 1944 or the Germans and Italians managed to push the Allies out of Italy from the Gustav Line.
Water and Wings Wednesday on the history channel
They must have been using Elmer Fudd glue.
Realy cool documentary....
if you want to be given a lot of BS and no research it may be somewhat passable.
German engineering, best engineering
+Jason Leung Except if you want Jet engines that function and not blow up themselves...
They are also the best at losing wars.
Even a quick look at technological advancements show that statement to be completely fatuous.
"Good fighters are unstable." Where did they get this Ying Yang? I don't even have to ask if he ever flew an airplane.
The people's fighter looks fun as he'll. It probably wasn't but it looks badass
How were Germans able to show so much ingenuity in such a short amount of time depsite being pressed for time , manpower and resources?
I think they had Extra-Terrestrial help LOL
Ubermensch ofc
None of this is outstanding in any way. About everything developed had been in development globally since the interwar period. in the late war the nazis threw went full panic mode and allocated most resources to improve those existing designs but to little effect. Well done Fritz, you invented jet planes that regularly explode and lots of useless prototypes
@@itsa_possum So? Had ANY of these developments except the radar any major success like the germans had that were developed in such a short time like from 1933-1945?
Chao Wingching Hongfingshong PingPangPong “any major success”, mate radar and sonar tech were hardly understood by the Germans and helped utterly destroy the Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine. Additionally Britain developed some of the most complex computing machines.
That aside, what do you think the germans “invented” that was “successful”?
They rolled out a jet plagued by structural failures due to severely inferior metallurgy. Few months later Britain flew their jet fighter, one that could operate longer than 10 hours without exploding.
Rocketry was a globally understood concept and just like jet engines (a British invention btw) from the interwar period. An interesting toy but pretty useless.
And that’s it. Worthless resource hogs, a self destructive plane and a batch of ramshackle untested blueprints. Well done lads, truly superior tech
Nice
Why the heck did they even mention the B-32 Dominator? It was essentially the poor man's version of the Superfortress. I want to think they meant the B-36 Peacemaker, which was under development and _would_ have been able to strike Germany from bases in the East Coast of the US, unlike the Dominator.
B-32 was used in the PTO and the last American killed during WW2 was in a B-32 over Japan.
Still being discovered and built today ... 2019?
I am IMPRESSED what WE the GERMANS had reached so many years ago.. - OF COURSE WE ARE TOLD ONLY A. F R A C T I O N.. 😉
A reflection of the Nazi stupidity.
The advanced aircraft hide a reality. The Soviets heading for Berlin after Kursk in 1943.
There was a reason Hitler wanted bombers...to defeat the Soviet advance on Germany.
Even if the Luftwaffe had stopped the bombing from the Allies the Soviets would have conquered Germany.
The record shows that the Soviets had successes with rockets , jets , delta winged aircraft etc. but Stalin put them on hold to win Barbarossa.
Hindsight will confirm that the Soviets made the right decision.
The german defeat was brought about by a superior force -- the Allies. Despite these technology advances, the German armed forces were crushed. The lesson here is that wars are fought and won by men, not machines.
@@PeterVB00 more like money and manufacturing, the war was attrition.
@@PeterVB00 Isnt the lesson the opposite of that? Did Germany not have the most technically proficient soldiers and general staff? Or at least a lot of production with pretty good technology is better than the best technology with no production.
@@PeterVB00 Also the fact that there was no technological advantage.
They lost most of their airforce fighting against Britain (who with their radar actually had a technological advantage) and the following jet and prototype aircraft were either useless or like the me-262 both useless, matched by better trained p-51 pilots AND not unique as the RAF had working jet fighters as well
The last entry sure does look like the might 15 ended up looking like
Bloody brilliant BMW still rather racing rotary
Ironic how the French, who totally ignored efficient and successful aircraft development before the war, managed to nab the best German developers after the war. How did they know what a good aircraft was at that point? Experts estimate they wouldn't have been anywhere near ready for WW2 until 1943-44. And that was just the aircraft designs - their manufacturing structure was woefully behind the times.
At 29:06 in this video: Flying that thing INSIDE that stadium MUST have been *_INCREDIBLY L-O-U-D._*
horton brothers were way ahead of their time
At 6:30: The He 162 was armed with 2 20mm MG151. Why are they showing the 30mm MK 108...?
Yes the A-1 was one that had 30mm mk108 even the B-1 version I assume you are taking info from war thunder xD
@@123fockewolf The He162 was trialled with 2x 30mm, but the recoil was too great for the airframe. Later versions with longer and stronger airframes were planned and would have had 2x 30mm cannons but were never built.
The spoils of war. Every country advanced in jet propulsion due to the collapse of Germany.
A single 20 mm round could not disintegrate a B17 or even a fighter. 4 might do the damage necessary to bring down a bomber.
So, according to the animation, the Trifuegal was purposed to knock out B29s. That would have been an interesting feat. There were no B29s deployed in Europe.
It would also be interesting to know how they avoided gyroscopic forces without an anti-torque rotor or other means to keep the fuselage from spinning in the opposite direction of the rotors.
There is no torque from the wing tip engines, only an engine mounted in the fuselage would cause torque reaction.
@jaydee040 Friction from bearings would be minimal, roll control would trim it out.
The Dutch NHI-3 helicopter used rotor-tip mounted ramjets and the French Djinn helicopter, which entered service in the 1950s (including in Germany), used rotor-tip mounted jets. Neither of these had a tail rotor because they didn't need one since there was no torque reaction to counteract. It's true that the B29 was not used in Europe, but it was always possible that it would be, therefore it was logical for Germany to design weapons such as the Trifluegel that would be used against high flying B29s.
@jaydee040 I can see my whole reply so I do not know why you cannot, so you say roll control would not be enough so how is the massive torque from a piston aircraft controlled? And there is a jet tipped rotor helicopter that does not have a tail rotor, how can that be?
@jaydee040 so you readily admit that a rudder can counteract the enormous torque from a powerful piston engine yet you fail to grasp the fact that minimal torque from bearing could not rotate a aircraft weighing many tons and sitting on the ground, once is has left the ground airflow from the rotor over the control surfaces would be the same as prop wash over a rudder.
I noticed you did not answer my question regarding the helicopter.
The 262 was designed as a fighter . Hitler demanded that it would be changed to a fighter bomber . As a fighter the 262 was and still is awesome for its day .
I agree, too bad it had many problems tho....
Germany had some fucking scary weapons however, wide spread allied jets and nuclear bombs would have ended WWII by 1947 at a worst case scenario.
Are you saying the atomic bombs and jets made by the allies?
James Kim Yes.
Just so you know it's all wrong, the Manhattan project consisted a few nazi Scientists therefore even if the war prolonged the US would've technically never been able to make the bomb, and the only country that was trying to make a jet were the Germans not the US, British, or Soviets only the Germans. The world also took every idea that the Germans were going to make or plan on making away and called it "there own."
James Kim The US had a few Germany scientists but Hitler was stupid and never put enough resources or effort. Germany was too concerned with quality over quantity. Get out of here, you idealistic Wehraboo. Allied jets would be flying over the already crippled Luftwaffle. Germany could not win the war.
***** Hitler was a complete power hungry moron. Lets outline some stupid decisions that made him the idiot we all know.
1. Battle Of Britain - Hitler ordered the Luftwaffe to stop bombing the almost defeated RAF bases and start bombing cities which gave the RAF time to regroup and incentive to strike back even harder. The Luftwaffe lost the Battle Of Britain because of that.
2. Invasion Of Russia - Against his advisory team, Hitler invaded Russia with minimal supplies because he thought it would be a quick victory. German army was defeated and lost large amounts of equipment.
3. Cancellation Of Next Gen Weapon Projects - After the fall of France in 1940, Hitler stopped new weapon projects and kept old technology. This proved fatal later on when Germany was outnumbered with horrible tanks.
4. Devoting Resources In Stupid Places - Hitler wanted wonder weapons which were extremely costly. The Tiger tanks are a perfect example. Unreliable, expensive and resource guzzlers. Germany couldn't afford expensive vehicles and paid for it dearly against large Allied numbers.
5. Me-262 as a bomber - Literally fucking insane. He turned the first operational jet interceptor into a bomber and it was completely ineffective.
6. No Women Laborers - Allies used women in the factories to free up men to fight. Hitler did not allow this.
7. Battle Of Kursk - Hitler ordered a massive attack against the Russians at Kursk. The German armies last great offensive flung themselves against massed Russian defenders into and a crushing defeat for Germany.
8. War With The USA - Yeah, lets just declare war on the biggest supplier on weapons in the world. They proceed to kick Hitlers ass.
Complete idiot like I said.
1 20mm bullett disintegrating a B-17 or a B-24? cmon, maybe if it hit the bomb-bay straight..
Its a MK 108 30mm he is talking about. But I still think that would be an outrageous statement even if the shell was larger.
If the bombs are armed and they get hit right, the whole plane instantaneously goes up.
Used to happen to Lancasters a lot with attacks from below/the belly, lack of a lower turret probably didn't help it.
But you're right otherwise, it being 20 or 30mm just means a bigger hole in the 2mm aluminium skin.
When killing the bomber, you go for the engines.
One bullet is nothing but a group of 20 mm rounds?
The last 10 minutes are the most important ...
Germans; the Genius idiots.
Thumbs up is you think someone needs to remake Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe.
These are all interesting ideas; however, they all ideas that were ahead of the existing technology. Germany needed a scientific board like Lord Beaverbrook had to evaluate these ideas and cut out some of these time-wasting projects.
So it seems that all USA air power have Nazi technical beging
@@bennieknape4857 allies had their secret a/,c too seems like the me262.was a superior design aredynamically
What most don't realize is that the U.S. would have just dropped a nuke on Germany and Japan instead of 2 on Japan
Yes, German surrendered too early to drop a nuke on Berlin, else the first nuke would have been for Germany.
The US will not do that at all . That is just stupid even thinking that . You been reading and hearing to much of Trumps propaganda crap .
@@jeffmullinix7916 No you idiot I was talking about world warII which is what the video is about. Why would we nuke Japan or Germany now?
lol@@jeffmullinix7916
Carl Clouser III true despite all these developments the atom bomb trumps all
38:30 What a heartwarming thought...😍...
38:38....and unfortunately for the rest of the world...
6:28 it was armed with 30mm canons, its even says so on the sign
I was going to say something about that too first I went to the comments. Lol
The He-162 was armed with either the mk 108 30mm cannon or mg 151 20mm cannon depending on the variant. The A-1 had the 108 and the A-2 had the 151.
@@CounterClaws Yeah your right. Still they confuse it in the documentary. They clearly talk about the 30mm while calling it a 20mm
@@darmanskirata4167 Yeah, either way they still showed the wrong cannon.
How would any of these "what if" jet planes done in 1946 against the twin-engined, after burner equipped, supersonic Lockheed L133 Star Jet?
Paul Lubliner More to the point, would they have gone up against Meteors that actually flew during the war, the L133 was ditched and some of the technology ended up in the P80. The L133 was not supersonic, it was designed to fly at speeds close to supersonic but it was still topped out at 625-630 mph. To be supersonic at altitude you’ve got to top 660mph+
So to answer your question, they wouldn’t as the L133 didn’t fly, it didn’t go supersonic and they Luftwaffe would’ve been dealing with British jet fighters that were already flying during 45.
Neither the Lockheed P80 nor the Meteor were supersonic.
Shoulda used Elmers Glue !
Germany was lucky that the allies had occupied most of the country when the a bombs were dropped on japan..because Germany would have been their first choice
The Americans were lucky that they didn't have to fight Germany 1 to 1.
Germany never got near to designing an atomic bomb. There's some totally fictional nonsence here.
Look into U234
@@MWcrazyhorse : Nonsemse, look into something called history
@@pasoundman U234
@@MWcrazyhorse Bullshit !
Actually they did. That’s why the British Commandos attacked the Heavy water plant in Norway.
Narrator mentions the Convair B-32 Dominator launched non-stop from US bases...this is incorrect, that would have been be the Convair B-36 Peacemaker.
I dont think so peacemaker wasnt in service til 49
Just make a few less and use aluminum wings.
Germany doesn't have the raw materials to make aluminium....and with the captured lands being taken back, where would they get it from?
history channel at 2 am