Leo Review/Guide, Creating Bushes for 1st Shot Advantage
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
- I review the Leo, a tier 7 Swedish medium tank in World of Tanks (WoT), with replays of tier 8 Redshire and tier 7 Steppes battles.
The Leo is an oft misunderstood and misplayed tank. The 10cm gun has poor gun handling and a long aim time of 3 seconds base but it hits hard. With proper use of vision control, you can fully aim in, and one of the tricks I show in this video is creating a deep line of bushes by knocking over trees so that you can repeatedly gain the "1st Shot Advantage".
Strengths and Weaknesses (with 10cm gun)
Superb alpha (300)
Superb gun depression (-10)
Excellent top speed (60)
Very long aim time (3 sec base)
Low reload (11.2 sec base)
Poor accuracy (0.42 base)
Weak armor
Large profile
Slow shell velocity (785 m/s)
Recommended Equipment
1. Optics
2. Rammer
3. Vents
You can run GLD instead of Vents, but I equip Vents for the improvements to view range and reload.
This video is part of my "Road to Unicum" series in which I share what I learned as I progressed towards account Unicum rating (top 1%) with silver ammo only. I talk through how I'm reading the battle as it unfolds and discuss key decisions and mistakes. My hope is that these videos meaningfully help players improve their gameplay.
"Road to Unicum" full guide and FAQs:
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I knew u were gonna make a vid the second I saw u, I was the type 59 on the other team lol. I had yellow ammo rack and engine, had to rep the ammo rack to finish the P44, that's why I couldn't go and kill ur arty.
Plus I was playing under 250ms ping.
But overall great play on ur part, gg o7
Thanks so much for explaining that. I was so sure you and/or the WZ-131 were going to steamroll our arties.
You way out-contributed the people on your team, and that's always a frustrating situation to be in when your team had the lead. You just didn't get enough help.
You are easily one, if not the, best WOT reviewers on youtube. You give meaningful advice and honest tank critiques. On this Leo I have struggled and your advice was helpful as I grind through it. Well done and thankyou
Thanks for the praise and I'm glad the video helped.
I'm on the UDES 14 5 now and it's worth getting. Very unique playstyle and great gun.
The level of analysis you do and the amount of thinking and decision making during tense moments in the game are more than impressive. It must be torture playing this game with scrubs such as myself who only pop in for a few games now and then and have garbage stats. Thanks for the video.
Just unlocked the 100mm gun on the Leo and I've totally fallen in love with it. Thank you for this video, it was extremely helpful in showing me how to make this tank work. In general, I would cite this series as the most important factor in my skill improvement over the last year and 3000 battles. I've gone from a yellow player to dark blue recents and much of that was thanks to your excellent game knowledge, presentation, and educational abilities.
To be honest, I'm a bit saddened that you seem to have stopped uploading. While you are obviously not beholden or obligated to your fans, it would be nice to see a community post or blog post updating us on when/whether you plan to return to youtube.
Sir you are an absolute legend.
Unicorn to the bone and not taking a single round of apcr, I totally respect that.
I really love your explanations and I instantly subbed when I saw the "light tanks unicum guide", I'm learning so much from you.
Keep up the good work!
Tiger's the one driving the Unicorn...
Reminds me of the time I took a heavy to a scouting Bush and got 2.5k spotting. In a t5 match
I'm playing the Leo tonight for the first time. Your advice is still very good and has helped me do really well tonight. I still hold out hope for your return. We all miss you bud.
Good work, the commentary is on point. Using the Leo now to research the new tier VIII medium. I use the 75mm gun, just cant bare the aim time and the awfull gun handling of the big one. All round, the tank as you said is is usable. And I have a killer crew of girls in it with 4 skills, so that helps.
And how don't you have more subscribers? Your clips are some of the best advice in WOT I have ever heard. Anyways, keep up the good work and have fun.
YES! I'm glad somebody else uses the bigger gun. Not only is smaller gun's dpm theoretical and requires you to fire non-stop...pretty sure bigger guns wreck components more. I got a satisfying full HP ammo rack on a same tier Italian tank earlier. I doubt the smaller gun would've obliterated the ammo rack like that!
Quickybaby just loves his Comet.
While i love the big gun on leo high rof guns tend to damage modules more since every shot is a new module damage roll.
You also take tracks off much easier with higher caliber guns
Edit: I still prefer the smaller guns on most thanks tho, for example the t-44 and t-54 (more pen, higher shell velocity, more dpm)
Keep making more videos bro. Big fan of you!
I absolutely adored the Leo, and it's been one of if not my best tank in the game so far.
The swedium line has actually started improving my account WR.
Thank you for a good look at how to play the Leo...I have learned the hard way that nothing else seems to work with this tank. So yeah, give this a try.
great video Taugrim! love them and they have helped me get back into the swing of things since i returned to this game
In regards to the argumentation between the smaller or bigger gun. Although I'm not advocating for the smaller gun necessarily, one thing you didn't mention in your "equation" ( 16:04 ) is that the smaller gun, because of its faster aim time and better dispersion over 100m, will hit the target more times than the big gun. This is without factoring in the reload speed which also further allows you to put in more hits. Sometimes you wont have enough times to put in that second shot but sometimes you will. The differential in penetration is somewhat negligible. In conclusion I must admit that I am not sure which is the better gun since the alpha offsets the extra hits but I did want to point out the factors which you did not mention.
Absolutely. Plus higher rate of fire = more opportunities for module and crew damage.
Lower RoF = Less time spent in the open
@@Winner3ty It would be true if the aim time wasn't as bad. The 75mm is great at poking and snapshotting
The thing is that you also have to take into consideration is armor nominalization into consideration. Because the small caliber in the 75mm, shoots that could normally penetrate will bounce.
The 10cm gun is good when fighting tanks that have what for that gun is considered "medium level penetration". In those situations having a higher caliber gun is better than a 75mm one.
Really nice and valuable lessons to be learn. Thank you!
A video with great timing and purpose! Seem like I need an account on your server...all hopeless people driving around in the open field :)
Love this series, so much knowledge
Cheers, great insight into playing the Leo well.
I like your replays and like the Leo, i have in my garage whit 2 marks.
Good movility, good alpha and depression.
Regards from Perú.
Another great video. I haven't touched the Swedish tree at all except this medium line which I just started the other day. I have no idea what to expect, so I appreciate the heads up.
Very helpful commentary. Thank you. 😁
Great video, mate!
I hated the Leo for a while, but toward the end of the grind it began to grow on me.
Your mistake with the Type 59 reminded me of a time in the Leo when I got rushed by a T-54 and learned the hard way that I basically couldn’t do anything to him frontally.
i play the leo as a ambush tank you have great mobility and the tank is low profile but the armor is nothing you can rely on
10,5 cm HE has 410 alpha and 52 mm pen so you will wreck paper tanks with it. its really satisfying to roll 410+ on a type 64 or even one shotting a tier 5 medium
if i wanted to play the 75 mm i would've played the comet -12 depression high dpm averaged it on 1.5K dmg 500 assist on average
i played it with the following equipment : EGLD, Optics , Rammer & Food
had 3 crew skills (BIA, Repairs, Smoothride/snapshot 6th sense & safe stowage)
I have 2.5k games in it with potato gun 100%moe and i love this tank. Potato gun is almost russia with food and max crew. Fast, punchy gun, nice gun depression my max dmg is 5.2k. Nice to see others leo in the field.
Leo turned into one of my favorite tanks, tho' I'm one of those running the 7,5cm gun. Similarly, I was running the 9cm on the UDES 14 alt 5, but all the feedback - I mean ALL the feedback - I got on the WOT forums said alpha is king. You make the same argument here. This video has me thinking I should consider the 10,5 cm.
I feel it has similar play to the US T-20 medium, also one of my faves. I'm not a great player by any means, but I over-perform in both of them. sub-47%WR in general, but 52/53%WR in those two. That I have good crews helps, I'm sure. It was a hard decision, but I'm transitioning my Leo crew up the tree to eventually be my UDES 15/16 tier X crew.
Looking forward to your perspective on the Tier VIII, IX , and X Swedish meds.
In short: its a pos that you can make work by being smart and using good tactics.
Pretty much. 300 alpha and -10 gun depression are glorious together.
@@taugrim except when you are bottom tier every game do to the absolutely shit matchmaking and the "RNG" says you miss every shot
This is an accurate description of 85% of tanks these days! Nice one!
The M12 could get a shot on the Type 59 for you, so he was in a bad spot yes, but for you it should have been some help. But you are still focusing on the bad SPG when maybe you could understand he moved there because the heavy was so sad in going back; the heavy was after all going to sit with the SPG like they were offering TEA and Cakes all safe at the back.
wow. that was really helpful. tx sir. i am 52 and still, learning. playing wot sins 2012. and doing it all wrong. got a lot better after i started watching your video's. hell, i am even having more and more carry games. and getting high wn8 for battles. but the hope of becoming unicum is no more. i played almost 50k battles and have more than 300 tanks in my garage. recent changes in wot have made me very happy. was about to give up and delete wot forever. maybe now i can become less salty at other players. lol
FWIW, the only stats that matter are your recent battles (last 1k). Account-level stats are strictly for bragging rights / e-peen.
If you're carrying more and more, that's the surest sign of improvement. Carries can happen to anyone on accident, but with increasing frequency it means you're making the right decisions to enable the carries.
Love this tank, really really love this
@taugrim I was the M12 that killed u on the second replay. And you are 100% right about me trying to figure out where Churchill was at. Either way that was a GG.
Well you sure laid a good ambush! GG :)
i play this tank differently and i love it with the big alpha gun :D
Hillarious your explaining. I'm not a tomato.. 11:50...drives in front of a arty....13:02 . That is so untypically you ^^
Hi that row of trees is the place i go to on that map. Always works for me.
You may want to substitute the term "soft cover" with "concealment". "Soft cover" is an object which you hide behind for ballistic protection, which others can shoot through. "Concealment" is an object that hides you from view.
Fair enough, thanks.
Not entirely, "Cover" can mean to protect OR conceal; hard cover: visual & ballistic protection, soft cover: only visual protection...
You mentioned s-51 running out of ammo, that's why I prefer using the 152 on the s-51. It has one of the best reloads in tier 7 and the gun is still very good at stun duration
Dude I wish I had you on my team giving me direction! My biggest flaw in this game is proper position.
Almost done with my Udes 14 5 grind but by the time I actually buy the tier 9 I'm sure you'll have a vid about it!
The Leo has a rather good dispersion on turret rotation, of 0.12. Making it behave a bit better while not completely fully aimed. Compared to the Chinese t-34-1's 0.15 however, this does make up for it's bad aim time on the 10cm and combine it with good depression value it becomes more useable.
On the 34-1 you can clearly notice this difference in dispersion on turret rotation, even though it's 100mm's base aim time is a fraction better with 2.9 sec.
Road to unicom:
1) Sit in obvious bush with ramming down trees (which any half decent or even bad would see) and never get a single blind shot or arty shell there (1st game).
2) Meaning facing...let's be friendly and use the term "less experienced" players.
3) Got it (oh wait, won't work most of the time).
I love the big gun. It's hard to snap with it but it has meaningful alpha that you can sometimes trade with lights/mediums. But I prefer to avoid getting hit.
The meaningful speed of the Leo allows you to change positions a lot
pre-aim the turret and only move forward and backwards with the hull and you will have a much better time
@@silvertorpedo4588 it's rare that people will sit in the open like that. I usually lose vision then have to reacquire them and then hit. It's not that common that I need to snap. Aiming is usually the best option
as usual amazing games
Similar to many German tanks, the Leo does not fully come together until the crew is 2-3 skilled or offset by bond equipment or steroids.
Aprendo muito com seus vídeos, um bom gameplay e também afio mais meu inglês, parabéns pelo conteudo. Akhosta from Brazil.
Nice games, as always and great explanations as always. Also like the changes to MM a lot, they should've done that long ago.
Tried playing on the north american server (no premium), but tbh the folks there are too depressing, so I deleted my account. Made it to tier 7 (light) and 55% WR but as u stated ... the decision making there is just mind boggingly bad most of the time. I have had teams melt around me in less than 2 minutes.... At least on EU u can actually make plays and oftentimes you will get supported, on NA that seems to be a rare occasion and I don't like the sitting back and patient style too much tbh....
I played the Leo with the small gun, and over bigger distances you will also hit a lot more for less damage, so it may averge same as big gun, but in close quarters you still have the DPM, are able to permatrack (which is a huge deal when fighting TDs and sometimes heavys) and can work nicely with the gun depression (less aim time, less exposure, but smaller reward in dmg). I'd say both guns are viable and have advantages and disadvantages.
DAGNABBIT! Just spotted (in last section of the video, where you talk about MM survey) that your rental codes woulda worked on EU :/ Note to self: Pay attention! Don't mind missing codes tbh, as I gain so much insight from your videos
You need to consider that the Löwe and the T59 are both premium tanks which makes it more possible that their players are not very good. The Löwe especially is infamous for being bought by players who start the game and think that a German heavy must be good due to historical reasons. :)
The S-51, the first arty I ever got a MoE on
In my opinion the leo is a awesome tank. I have done well with it. And I play very close quarters with this tank generally.
I'd argue the BB gun is better because it hits far more often.
The big gun is nice with the alpha, don't get me wrong. But with the small gun more of your shots hit the target to compensate the lower damage, and as an added bonus, you have the dpm to brawl when necessary, and don't have to stay exposed for as long to set up and fire.
Though on paper, my performance average is pretty much the same between the two guns.
I was pleasantly surprised how I was able to perform with the big gun. And I usually despise bad gun handling. 300 alpha is juicy though at tier 7.
I found the Leo to be a terrible grind, but once I got used to it, it's not a horrible tank. It's not great, but it isn't the worst. And yes, the new MM is far more enjoyable to play with, it doesn't feel like it's so punishing at Tier 8.
on the subject of Swedish mediums, what are your thoughts on the 3 new mediums?
Ask me after I play them :)
I can say that the tier 10's hull armor is ridiculously troll. I couldn't get my pen indicator in the Emil II into the yellow color. So it's auto bounce, just as the Strv 103's hull is.
I recently moved up to the tier 8 med & am enjoying playing it (EU) had decent results in Leo & iirc having better in UDES (not enough games yet to see on stats sites).
While it seems like a good tank, so far, it's probably as much due to the MM changes where I actually get games that DON'T have tier 10s in! Even in platoon :O IKR weird :)
I got 5-6 games in a row last night -2 tiers (i play mostly tier 6, so playing against tier 8's is rly no fun), but after that i had just mostly same tier or just -1 for 10 matches. There rly is a noticeable diff from before, but there is still room for improvement. Just my two cents.
Can you make the P34 Ter?
What are your opinions on the new swedish mediums and rebalanced swedish heavies?
The 3-shell clip in the Emil II is much easier to manage, along with the higher per-shot alpha.
I've only played 14 battles in the UDES 14 5 but so far I'm enjoying it more than I was expecting. The gun performance is fantastic.
I know you saw my other comment so I'm gonna add another one, this time with a small suggestion and a couple of questions :D
Can you please tell us what equipment you favor when you do unicum guides to certain tanks? (for example on the Pershing or the Patton) And also maybe what skills you prioritize, do you go camo -> retrain to take something else at 100% -> camo again, do you just keep camo and move to repairs or does it just depend on tanks?
I usually just straight up pick repairs first and retrain at 100% for something better and then repairs again (both on mediums and heavies), do you just go for camo on mediums instead?
PS: or you can show us the tank in the garage, we can see both the skills priority and the equipment XD
Thanks.
Should carry a decent amount of apcr with this tank given that so many of the new age 8s may as well be tier 9s and the ap pen with the alpha gun doesn't make things easy.
From a practical standpoint, sure.
I've only used silver ammo in Random Battles, for reasons explained here:
taugrim.com/2015/02/19/road-to-unicum-guide-videos-for-world-of-tanks/#no-gold-ammo
Hmm. Looks like they gave you guys the MM we have been enjoying on SEA server for awhile now. Cool.
This tank is perfect for front lint fights
This tank would've been amazing had it kept the traverse values it had in the sandbox.
I loved the boomsick on this tank. If I wanted a pea shooter tier 7 I'd use the Comet. The Comet is trash but better than the Leo with the 75mm.
meeh the T-34-3 is one of my favorite thanks, and getting used to its gun well any other tanks gun feels damn good. I really loved the Leo with the 10cm, Alpha is king after all, and peakaboom is much better play style with tanks that can't take hits like the Leo. DPM is nice and all but its harder to use the dpm imo.
> peakaboom is much better play style with tanks that can't take hits like the Leo. DPM is nice and all but its harder to use the dpm imo
That is exactly right, and why I found the 10cm gun so effective. Granted, the skill cap for using the 10cm is higher due to the high aim time.
@@taugrim yes very much, you have to actually lead your aim not just your shots if that makes sense?
I wouldn't say it sucks but it's one of the more frustrating tanks I've played. Missing moving targets is one thing but so often you miss fully aimed shots on big tanks sitting right out in the open, over and over. Glad to never play it again.
I was ranked 14th on the NA server in this tank while grinding it. Minor baby flex...
Can you tell me which line is better from Leo? I am currently grinding the Leo and I do not now for which line to go for, I do like my mediums and heavys so I do not have a preference :)
I dunno, I haven't played the new mediums yet.
@@taugrim since I am not going to finish the grind on the Leo soon I will wait for your review if you make one. Thanks for the videos m8, they are more than helpful
Thanks for this review! Helped my leo game alot and i got emil 1 super quick and my first ever mark!
Just a side question, you know anyone explaining on this stuff for ps4? Alot is same yet more is different
I liked using the reload time +1 sec to see when i wouldnt be spotted
Yes, that is a good tip.
Is it worth taking Armor Piercing Rounds ?
Really frustrating when arty tries to "spot" at mid-high tiers. Idk what they expect to do with terrible view range and enemy tanks likely using camo crews and whatnot
I think most of the time arties panic and think they have to rush forward and shotgun things.
It's simply mind-numbingly stupid. But stupid is as stupid does.
I like this tank to the point we're it's the only tank were I put effort into three marking it
Grats on 3-marking it!
hi, time code to day out?
Code's posted in the pinned comment of my video on the UDES 14 5.
Any tips on the six?
Try to use that massive gun depression as much as possible. -15 is ludicrous :)
@@taugrim And dream about the armor on the 8
8:49 Arty is used by driven by very bad players with no map understanding. News Flash! Tomato’s don’t limit themselves to arty they also like to share there special type of gameplay with every class of tank with every tier.
Basically what you say in most of your video is : if you are good at the game, all the tanks are good :)
I see you only play with 8x zoom. Would you recommend using 16x and 25x.
no reason to. just more space in your head to keep track of
Danial Malik sirfoch brought this up a while ago. The cons are that the bloom in sniper mode is not accurate to what it should be, particularly in 25x, in that with most guns with .35 accuracy+ the reticle can look aimed in but not really be fully aimed it(wait to hear the clink). Server reticle can in some cases eliminate this but it is a client-side mod and not vanilla. The benefits at 400+ are that it is easier to see a tanks overall silhouette, aim at weak spots and see what direction their turret is turned. You will not hit these targets with very much higher probability but the shots that fly straight on .30 or lower guns feel very crisp.
Overall it is up to the user. I would definitely have battle sounds on for aiming/sixth sense cues and so the added zoom gives me an easier time understanding the topography and orientation of my opponent. But if you play unmodded without sound, or can easily make out targets and carefully mouse over weak spots, this option doesn't have a point, and can only be a disadvantage particularly in closer ranges.
Lots of players hate arty, so they won't do anything to protect them. They figure arties "deserve" it, but they're cutting their own throats by not protecting them, because a good arty player is as good as gold and can mean the difference between a win and a loss!
I'm a shitty 46% player, I'm only half-decent with heavy tanks and suck with everything else and I'm pulling over 50% in this Leo for some reason (on my road to Emil). It can't be a bad tank. Nice play.
That aim time kills me
Also, the a44 is even worse than the Leo. 2.7 aim time, 330 alpha is nice but aim time is shit, no armour, rear mounted turret with almoat no forward gun depression makes it torture to play.
Funny, I enjoy both of those tanks. Leo, one of may faves. To each his own...
Please review kv 85
In the 1st battle you called the Lowe 'selfish' when he first fell back. This is what I would have done in his position, as the flank was failing, he was out numbered in a tank with so so armor. I am confused by this because you and most other streamers preach play smart and stay alive. Please explain as I do suck myself but continue to try.
That Lowe was not meaningfully engaging for the first 6 mins of that battle. He hung back while his fellow heavies died. He survived the battle but only had 1.3k damage. What does that tell us? He was being too passive in a top-tier heavy.
I think the SPG players got fed up of waiting to the Lowe to do anything.. so they felt they had too. I am when playing a french fast SPG often in a position where the other tanks are just plain chicken look after me kind of players. I post forward and have spotted for my other SPG mates and we have won the game because of this. Yes it's a risk, but with players not taking part.. SPG players are not all bad players and I don't know why you see them as that. For a start they get to see all the bad or good play that others do in the game; because of the GODs view. Yes some are not checking the map and focus on one player and get killed; when they could have moved. I have often moved up in front of my team, because the other side have come behind and I then am helping them by shooting over their heads. It's a risk yes; but it works when you need to fix a bad game. In my clan we call the TD's flat SPG players. and so many times I have gone TD on the other side because SPG are the only ones left in the game! and have killed both the other players with in your face shots. The hard part is aiming an SPG and not getting to close. The first time I did this on full health I died from getting my own splash damage and or a combination of the others shot or colishion or all 3. But if you keep your head and only fire when you know you will hit. an SPG can kill very well. So many times I have seen or been helping normal tanks win a game by killing someone who is about to shoot them in the ass. I may stun my own side from time to time, but it's worth it. a win is a win. So please let us not run down SPG players so fast. Many players do not play SPG, but should so they can see more of what to do and where to go. If you know where SPG can always get a shot on you, don't go there. Thanks for letting me have my say and good killing in the game.
We play very different...i play very aggressive..the 65kp/h kan do some good stuff for me
i am using big gun as well (i should say i was using, because i sold leo after researching udes). Played with small gun for about 70 games and i couldn't make it work, you cant trade, you won't scare - you are a joke for others. After being frustrated so much i switched, guess what? First game with big gun, 2.8k Damage, next game 2.5k. I managed to do avarage 1.5k every game, why? Because you have that boom effect, you can out trade, you do damage and re-position or wait for six sense to go off and get another 300. With this experience i would never play leo with small gun, quickybaby is not right every time.
Löwes always seem to be the scared heavy that never help out
You should have used the smaller gun for a battle since they are both viable. I prefer it.
That's fair but I found my average performance with the big gun far exceeded my expectations:
1559 DPG, 2.03 kills, 2.06 spots
The Leo is one of only a small handful of tanks in which I've been able to average both 2 kills and 2 spots per battle. Super rare.
I wasn't a huge fan. Tried both guns, seems like a decent tank, but I couldn't wait around to settle into it.
I would love to see you playing that awful gun on a city map, without hardcover to aim!
Squishy mediums can be tough on city maps for sure.
Taugrim to tell you the truth I have no idea how to use that gun with such bad stats inside a city!
22:40 Because so many have a big vacant place between their ears.
At least the platform and gun are better than the A44, the useless amount of armor and boat like turning combined with 3 gun depression with the 107 limits the flexibility and camouflage way too much.
Yes -3 gun depression is miserable. Although the same principle applies: 1st Shot Advantage can also mitigate awful gun depression.
Sadly it does limit the positions you can occupy to utilize soft cover, not every open map has spots which even allow safety to -3 gun depression. Luckily in the a44 you get the Russian "da comrade, I press w key and run over anything lower tier" that has sort of been improved in the new matchmaker where now a third of matches are top tier and most matches are same or 1 tier down. Makes playing tanks with premium matchmaking awesome too.
I am playing the Leo right now and it is painful.
Are you using the 300 alpha gun? The gun handling is quite poor but if you make good use of vision control, you can safely aim in.
@@taugrim I find it to be slow, poor armour and a long reload. I'm also a very average player :)
@@taugrim Yes, I'm using the big gun
I think the Leo works if you use camo and are careful to pick situations where you can fully aim in. Otherwise the Leo is very rough to play.
@@taugrim I agree. I play it an ambush/wait for back up tank. I will just be grinding through this tank and hopefully, forget it quickly.
layo common Taugrim you can do better lol. but jokes aside great video as usual
Should have given tiger Fadin's.
I've never once in 31k battles asked for someone to let me have a kill. I have on rare occasions let someone get their 8th kill, if they were carrying.
Things should be earned.
@@taugrim tiger was also carrying with you. If you kept backing up, all he needed was a spalsh. The thing is he said he has 1 shot left, you told him to save and, but you ended up ramming M12 and gave him a kill. I know he did not ask for it. It would be an epicc result for tiger to land a shot between 2 buildings, splash and kill M12, and get Fadin's.
I tried playing it as a sniper and using good tactics, but every shot would miss and my team or the enemy team would just not do what I expected them to do. This tank is just another pos tank that I've had to play.
the low dmg gun is way better it has like 1.8 arm time, vs the 3.+ something
2.8 second aim time is no good. Anything good about the gun (mainly that alpha) is immediately undone by that awful awful aimtime. The T20 is just such a better vehicle at tier.
Im trying to get back into playing wot again after taking a break from it. We should play again. (Im also trying to juggle Final Fantasy 14 alongside it... which seems to eat up lots of time somehow... man MMOs are a hell of a drug...)
The T20 is much more flexible, because it has meaningfully better vision control and a smaller profile.
Indeed. Much more capable of surviving in late game situations in the T20.
When do you normally play now? Evenings still?
Pretty much. Sometimes early mornings. But I'm playing < 1 hr per day on average now.
I find Churchill drivers to be among the very worst...
I ground out to tier 8 on the brit heavies this spring, they may seem awful but you have to remember the Churchill rank as 2 of the worst tanks in game and it is a lot of luck thats needed for average players to make good use of it, it takes forever to get anywhere, the armor isn't gr8 and most crews will be rubbish as these are the first tanks in the heavy line. They need support to keep ppl off of shooting the paper sides but get em in the right place in a fair MM and they can do dmg.
@@paulrigby4475I appreciate all the valid points you made, I was commenting more on the drivers of those tanks. In my experience they are often utterly without a clue and indistinguishable from an actual bot. I meant no disrespect to someone like you who knows what they are doing.
Use the smaller gun and you got an OP tank in your garage...
CDC being a CDC as always
Couldn't sell this tank fast enough!
I'm really enjoying it. But then again, I've figured out how to make it work, so that helps.
lol shotgunned by arty both games
Such is life in the big city in WoT :D
Pea shooter, BB gun :P