@@fahmad7194 i can understand every Muslims discomfort on Muhammads did. Its good in a way. Now they are rejecting hadiths, increasing age of ayesha, calling miraj a non physical thing, moon spliting a metaphorical thing etc. But u can't change quran bro. And its clear
@janbawaingade303 All of that is down to interpretation and that has unfortunately been left to the least educated among us. I am glad to see brave guys like Dr Taimur trying to change that 👍
@@fahmad7194 even blaming interpretation shows that Muslims r uncomfortable with the quran. They reject what is obvious and add things which are not there. But i want to tell u. Slavery, pedophiilia, terrsm is bad, undefendable. No matter how much u try.
All violent events in Islamic history, tradition, and even the Quran, including this specific incident, should be critically examined through a historical lens and reinterpreted. This approach is essential to eliminate biases, clarify social narratives, and effectively address Islamophobia. Without such a thorough review and reconciliation of Islamic doctrines, any attempt to counter Islamophobia risks being superficial and ineffective. This is an excellent effort by you, Dr. Taimur. You are steadily emerging as a leading figure in Islamic enlightenment and renaissance.
@@cclamba1 I do not follow fabricated Sunnah, especially after becoming aware of the distortions introduced by historians based on inaccurate information.
Fear of Islam owing to its hatemongering against non-Muslims, oppression of half of Humanity (women) and killing of minority groups (apostates, blasphemers and gays) is Rational and not an unfounded Phobia. Islamic Enlightenment is contradictory within itself. It is collaborative whitewashing of an odious Ideology.
Banu Qaynuqa (whole tribe) was exiled for the crime of jew harassing a Muslim woman. isn't this collective punishment? is this moral in your opinion? Banu nadir (whole tribe) was exiled for the crime of failed assasination? is this moral in your opinion? if yes, then what about all the (successful) assassinations the prophet himself carried out in his life?
So let me get this straight... you're saying that 150 years after the incident isn't credible but most hadith literature written 250 years after the fact is sahih. Ok.
it is so unfortunate that when any one starts defending his religion ... the rationality goes down the drain ... there are so many authentic hadith which are in conjunction with quran confirming jizya and slavery and concubinage and events of banu qurayza ... but it is more like ghamidian approach which simply cherry picks the citations that support narrative and reject even the most authentic hadiths of bukhari and muslim and even try changing the quranic interpretation which was not only accepted for hundreds of years in early islamic history but even defy the basic reading skills ... basic reading shows simple and plain barbarianism but ghamidian approach is simply to change the basic meanings of words
I also claim by using the historical method that all this Islamic narrative about an imaginary god in the sky may not be accurate. I hope Dr. Taimur does a video on that, it would be more fun then this :)
They were killed for attempting to commit genocide against Muhammad & his followers. During the Battle of the Trench (khandaq), the Qurayzah broke their agreement and aided Muhammad’s ﷺ enemies and even made an unsuccessful attempt to attack the Muslims from the rear. After the battle was over, Muhammad’s ﷺ troops surrounded the village of Qurayzah upon a sacred decree from Alllah. The Qurayzah agreed to arbitration by their former ally Saad bin Muaz. Had they chosen Muhammad to be the judge, they probably would have gotten a more merciful sentence. it is important to note that the men of the tribe of Qurayzah were not killed on religious or racial grounds. None of the 17 other Jewish tribes in the oasis either objected or attempted to intervene, clearly regarding it as a purely political and tribal matter.” Which law did Saad use to come to a judgment that the Jews never questioned? Tribal law? No. Jewish law? Yes. Saad applied Jewish law to Jews. Saad’s verdict was in accordance with the Jewish law (Deut 20 v12 & Deut 20 v13 & Deut 20 v14). No other Jewish tribe objected to Saad’s decision as it was in accordance with their own Jewish law (Deut 20), not even Qurayzah were surprised.
@@Taimur_Laal I agree with You, Sir. Prophet PBUH prayed for the people of Taif instead of cursing them, who assaulted him and caused him to bleed. He released war prisoners of Badr on his own. He forgave the Killer of His Brother-Like Uncle, whom he loved so much. He announced a public pardon for the disbelievers and polytheists of Makkah, except for a few people like Ikrimia ibne Abi jahal, about them he had commanded to kill them even if they were holding Ghilaf e Kaba. But later on, when Ikrima confronted Prophet PBUH, he forgave him. As far as the incident of Quraizah is concerned, the people of Quraizah agreed to accept any decision made by Hazrat Saad, who applied their own law to them. Which was endorsed by Prophet PBUH on behalf of Allah. Thus, only their leaders and fighters got killed.
@@Taimur_Laal the jews applied that law to themselves (and from their own scripture) by insisting that Saad bin muadh RA be their negotiator, they agreed to abide with whatever saad bin muadh decided for them. so the decision was not of the Prophets SAW who had banished several jewish tribes before this incidence but of saads' and the treacherous jews themselves.... please read a basic seerah book mr ignoramus
This is the problem with early Muslim history: it's shrouded behind a thick fog of conflicting narratives, ideological biases, and sparse contemporary sources. Much of what we know comes from accounts written decades or even centuries after the events they describe, often shaped by the theological and political contexts of the time. The lack of direct primary sources, coupled with the tendency of later historians to interpret events through a religious or political lens, makes it challenging to discern objective truths from myth, embellishments, or partisan retellings. This leaves modern scholars to sift through layers of sacred tradition and historiography to piece together a more accurate understanding of this defining period. The task seems insurmountable.
इस्लाम को अच्छा बताने वाले मोमिन विशेषकर उस समय जब कोई आतंकवादी घटना -घटित होती हैं. जब छोटी -छोटी बच्चिओ से दुष्कर्म होता है यहाँ तक के मदरसे के बच्चों से दुष्कर्म होता है या कही लव जेहाद होता है ये सपोले पालते हैं और खुद घास -फूस की तरह हैं तभी तो ये आतंकवादी घटना हो, दुष्कर्म हो इस पर ये बोलते नहीं हैं ये अधिकतर गैर -मुस्लिम से भेदभाव करते हैं और इनके ही मुस्लिम समाज का कोई व्यक्ति अगर सच्चाई के रास्ते पर चलता है तो ये उसका भी विरोध करते हैं उसे भी ये गैर मुस्लिम की तरह प्रताड़ित करते हैं. जब से इन लोगों ने इसरायल में उनके उत्सव पर मिसाइल से हमला किया तब से मेरा दिमाग़ खुद ब खुद इनके कुकर्मो पर विचार करने लगा लेकिन इजराइल ने इनको अच्छा सबक सिखाया, फिर ये लोग चाहे हिन्दू हो, जैन हो, बौद्ध हो, परासी हो, सीख हो, ईसाई हो एक तो सबके धार्मिक और मजहब के कार्यक्रम की आलोचना करते हैं या फिर कार्यक्रम मे रंग में भंग डालते हैं कही बम इस्फोट करते हैं. कही पत्थर चलाते हैं कही गाड़ी घुसेड़ देते हैं. कही किसी पर गाड़ी चढ़ा देते हैं जब इन पर कानूनी कार्यवाही होती है तब ये रोना रोने लगते हैं की हम मुसलमान हैं इसलिए हमारे ऊपर कार्यवाही की जा रही है और ये मौलाना, मौलवी झुंड के झुंड इन अपराधी के बचाव में आ जाते है कहते हैं इस्लाम शांति का मजहब है अरे शांति का मजहब क्या ये कहेगा की दूसरे पर पत्थर मारो, दूसरे की माँ, बहन, बेटी से दुष्कर्म करो, दूसरे की संपत्ति को नुकसान पहुचाओ ये शांति का रास्ता है या फिर हैवानियत का रास्ता है जब एक्स मुस्लिम इनकी साहित्य को खोल -खोल कर बयान कर रहें है तो आस्तिक और नास्तिक पर केवल चर्चा करते हैं ईश्वर है की नहीं है, अरे ईश्वर है की नहीं है इससे क्या मतलब है अरे तुम लोगो अपनी जिंदगी को अंधकार में जी रहें हो और दूसरे इंसान की जिंदगी को बर्बाद करते हो अरे किसी की जिंदगी में कुछ भलाई करके दिखाओ.
ڈاکٹر صاحب آپ کی پہلی ویڈیو دیکھی ہے بہت اچھا لگا کہ آپ نے اس پر اچھی تحقیق کر رکھی ہے اللہ آپ کو اجر دے اور حقائق تک پہنچنے میں آسانی پیدا کرے۔ تاریخی واقعات کے بارے میں ایسے سوالات اٹھانے ضروری ہیں ورنہ وقت کے ساتھ ساتھ دین میں یہ تاریخی چیزیں شامل ہو جاتی ہیں۔
Hazrate safiya ek sardar ki beti thi war me uske bhai bap mare gae wo ek qaidi thi unhen kisi sardar ki level ke mujahid ki londi hi banna tha ya kisi sardar level ke mujahid se nikah krna tha so wo unhon ne nikah hi kiya wo bhi sb se bare Martabe wali shakhsiyat se londion ki taqseem unke sabiqa mansab ke mutabiq hi ki jati thi take muslim muashre me aakr bhi uski self respect me kami na ho esa nhi hota tha k kisi sardar ki beti jo londi bn kr aae ek muslim ghulam ko di jae ye hi waja hai hazrate safiya ke samne 2 hi option the ya wo kisi sardar abu bakkar ummar usman ali jese shakhs ki londi banti ya Nikah krti unhon ne kisi ki londi banne ki bajae Nabi pak saw ke sath nikah ko tarjee di or sare Muslims ki ummul Momineen ka status paya
Spending thw wedding night togethet doesnt mean one will have physical relation with hsi wife and as per tradition the wife of the defeated kings get married to the winner whats really wrong in that? U are sitting in 2024 talking about 600Ad
Please debate with Adam Seeker on this topic. I think he is the encyclopedia of iskamic literature. .. He is available along with Exmuslim Sahil in exmuslim Sahil channel on Tuesday and Friday and Saturday 9.30 pm onwards.
Even if we acknowledge that this particular tribe was not massacarred, Please give your precious opionion about poets who were assasinated on PBUH's orders in Mecca while he himself was in Medina. His(PBUH)'s attitude towards his critic poets or those who mocked him was not at all kind. Even if we acknowledge that their criticism was a mockery. Still that should not call for assasination attempts. List of peots who were murdered include Al-Nadir Ibn Al-Harith, Uqba ibn Abu Muayt, Abu Afak, Asma Bint Marwan, Kab bin Ashraf, Fartana & her sister who used to sing songs mocking the prophet, Kab ibn Zuhayr. I would really appreciate your academic stance about these
Other than this concern, Even Qaiser Ahmad Raja will praise you for the lengths you have to gone to present this new prespective. You are indeed an ''Erudite'' & ''Polymath''
The actions taken against these individuals were not merely a reaction to verbal mockery; rather, they were in response to perceived threats to the security and stability of the Muslim community, which was under constant threat from external enemies and internal dissent. In some cases, the poets were seen as playing an active role in plotting against the Prophet and his followers, using their words as weapons to fuel conflict and violence. In the pre-Islamic Arabian culture, poets held significant sway. Their words could incite entire communities and lead to violence or wars. In that context, many poets who criticized Muhammad's message were not simply mocking him but were seen as actively working to sow discord and incite hostility between the Muslims and others, including the powerful Quraysh tribe in Mecca.
@@Taimur_Laal Apologies for the foul language. I haven't even listened to what you said in the video because I had a hunch about what you were going to say, considering your dwelling circumstances. In that spirit, I made the above comment. It's just the pandering I can't take. You are doing great work; I have no complaints. It was just a spur-of-the-moment thing. I saw the title and posted the comment.
Absolutely loved this, highly appreciated Sir. I had the same question in my mind which always used to haunt me that 'How Prophet (PBUH) who always in his life emphasized on peace & discouraged violence can allow the complete genocide of a tribe?' Unfortunately, we have made everything sacred and highly unquestionable which has even a little link with the religion, either it is history, literature or any personal opinions.
It is not a racist comment it is to expose your denying this bano quraiza incident. All the Hadiths and Muslim Ulema is confirming it but you are denying it, isn't it a big joke.@@Taimur_Laal
These people are having the hate deep in their hearts against Islam that they will show their real-self only in the comments as well as not really thinking about what they are talking and not wanting to renew their belief by finding the proof and evidences by themselves and thinking for it for a moment imo, maybe these people are from the ignorant people.
According to shia historians umul momineen aisha was 21 when she got married to Prophet p.b.u.h and Prophet belonged to affluent family of banu hashim they owned land and used to do trade. BTW can you please educate me about the draupadi , whome did she marry?
@@mohammadjaffarabbas9880 not so true. After Nabuwat Muhammad (S.A.W) used to get money through baitulmal also. He (PBUH) never did trade after Nabuwat as for as I know. You can bring the reference, if I'm wrong.
@@danimalik7078 According to a hadith of Shi'ite Derham (silver coin) comes from Dar-ol-hamm (the house of suffer), and Dinar (Golden coin) comes from Dar-on-Nar (the house of fire), that is, gathering silver and golden coins (or say money in general) without caring for the life of poor people would be like saving suffer and fire for ourselves, and this is what we have been prohibited from. In other words, being rich is not bad but not caring the poor people will be. Having more money to help the others more is by no means discouraged. And the prophet S.A. in Mecca had this situation, he was not a ruler at that time as there was no Islamic society established yet. His wife Khadijeh was a rich woman before she married with Muhammad the trustworthy, S.A., and she dedicated all that he had to his husband. When Muhammad S.A. became a prophet those who were absorbed to him were under restrictions from the atheists of Mecca. In the last three years of his living in Mecca (before traveling to Medina) the Muslims were boycotted by the atheists of Mecca, they became poor and there were days that they had nothing to eat. That was where the holy prophet S.A. spent all that he had for the Muslims and became poor. Then Abi-Taleb and Khadijeh A.S. died in the last year of the prohibition. After the prohibition the Prophet left Mecca to Medina and there he established a society based on Islam, a government, and he was at the top. He could have an easy life as his earns from wars and etc. but he preferred to remain his level of living at the level of the poorest in his society and he also commanded this to his succeeders, the ones Shia Muslims know as Imams. Ali, A.S., in the times of three first Caliphs was a farmer, his income was just too much, he was perhaps one of the richest of the time, although he always used to live simple (like Soleiman A.S., the prophet, used to live when he was king), an ascetic life. Then he became the fourth Caliph and as the order of his brother Muhammad S.A. switched his life to a simple level again, sitting on the door of his house for people could more easily visit him, the Caliph, and etc. Once Imam Sadiq A.S. was asked why he is rich and he answered because he is not the ruler. However at the same time he was living an ascetic way.
پروفیسر تیمور صاحب ! الحمدللہ میں مدارس کے معتبر اور راسخ العقیدہ علماء کرام کا شاگرد ہوں جن میں جامعہ بنوری ٹاؤن کراچی بھی شامل ہے اور ملک بھر کے بہت معتبر علماء کرام نے میری تائید بھی کی ہے آپ نے واقعہ کو جس طرح سے تحقیقات کرکے بتایا ہے یہ بہت خوش آئند ہے حالانکہ مجھے آپ سے یہ توقع ہرگز نہیں تھی اسلئے کہ آپ انسانیت پر یقین رکھتے ہیں اور شاید بہت ساری چیزیں آپ کو اپنے معیار کے مطابق ٹھیک بھی نہیں لگتی ہوں اور انصاف اور فطرت اور انسانیت کا تقاضا بھی یہی ہے آپ کی اس بات کی تائید قرآن کی سورہ آل عمران آیت 128 سے بھی ہوتی ہے جس میں نبی صلی اللہ علیہ والہ وسلم سے اللہ نے فرمایا کہ لیس لک من الأمر شیء کہ آپ کا یہ کام نہیں ہے جب عامر بن طفیل نے دھوکہ دے کر 70 قاریوں کو شہید کیا تو اس پر نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے اس کےلئے بربادی کی اللہ سے التجا کردی اور اس پر اللہ نے فرمایا کہ یہ آپ کا کام نہیں ہے جب اللہ نے بیرمعونہ کے اتنے بڑے واقعہ میں بد دعا کےلئے بھی منع فرمایا تھا تو بنی قریظہ سے متعلق اتنے بڑے واقعہ کو وحی سے کیسے جوڑا جاسکتا ہے اور اگر کوئی واقعہ ہوتا تو اس کا ذکر بھی اسی طرح متفقہ طور پر ہوتا اسلئے کہ جس چیز کو قرآن اور حدیث کی تائید حاصل ہو تو لامحالہ اس پر اتفاق ہوتا ہے پروفیسر صاحب آپ نے بنوں کے علماء اور ایک پروفیسر پر ویلاگ کیا تھا جس میں عورت کے بارے تفصیل سے بتایا تھا کہ وہ تعلیم میں کس کس چیز میں ڈگریاں حاصل کرچکی ہیں اور وہ اخبار بنوں شہر میں بھی پہنچا دیا تھا آپ بہت اچھا ذہن رکھتے ہیں یہ تو ایک واقعہ ہے لیکن آگر بہت بڑے بڑے مروجہ مسائل اور ٹھوس واضح آیات پر مولانا مودودی اور غامدی کا ترجمہ دیکھ لیں تو سر پیٹ کر رہ جائیں گے ایک آیت البقرہ 229 ہی کو دیکھ لیں جہاں اللہ نے دو مرتبہ طلاق کے بعد تیسری مرتبہ معروف رجوع یا احسان کیساتھ رخصت کرنے کا حکم دیا ہے اور رخصت کرنے کا فیصلہ کرنے کی صورت میں حکم دیا ہے کہ عورت کو جو چیزیں بھی دی ہیں تو اس میں سے کوئی چیز بھی واپس لینا حلال نہیں مگر جب دونوں کو خوف ہو کہ وہ دونوں اللہ کے حکم پر قائم نہیں رہ سکیں گے ( اے فیصلہ کرنےوالو) اگر تمہیں یہ خوف ہو کہ وہ دونوں اللہ کی حدود پر قائم نہیں رہ سکیں گے تو پھر عورت کی طرف سے اس چیز کو فدیہ کرنے میں دونوں پر کوئی حرج نہیں ہے جس کا واضح مطلب یہی ہے کہ اگر دی ہوئی چیز دونوں میں رابطے کا ذریعہ اور اختلاط کی وجہ سے دونوں کے لئے جنسی بے راہ روی کے شکار ہونے کا خوف ہو تو وہ دی ہوئی چیز واپس کرنے میں دونوں پر حرج نہیں اسلئے کہ عورت اپنی عزت کی خاطر وہ چیز فدائی کی طرح قربان کرے گی اس میں خلع کا کوئی تصور لینا کتنا غلط ہے کہ اللہ نے عورت کو طلاق کے بعد مالی تحفظ دیا ہے اور اس تحفظ کا ذکر سورہ النساء ایت 20 اور 21 میں بھی ہے لیکن بدقسمت مسلمان عورت کو غلط تفسیر و ترجمہ کی وجہ سے خلع پر مجبور کردیا جاتا ہے مالی تحفظ کی جگہ اس کو بلیک میل کرنے کا شکار کیا جاتا ہے جہاں تک خلع کے حق کی بات ہے تو سورہ النساء آیت 19 میں اس کی وضاحت ہے جس میں منقولہ دی ہوئی چیزیں بھی شوہر واپس نہیں لے سکتا اور ایت البقرہ 229 میں طلاق کی وہ صورت واضح ہے کہ جس میں میاں بیوی اور فیصلہ کرنے والے اس باٹ پر متفق ہوں کہ انہوں نے صلح نہیں کرنی ہے شوہر جب بیوی کو بسانا نہیں چاہتا تب بھی ازادی سے عورت کو کسی اور سے بسااوقات نکاح نہیں کرنے دیتا اسلئے اللہ نے اس غیرت کو ختم کرنے کیلئے واضح فرمایا کہ جب تک دوسرے شوہر سے وہ نکاح نہ کرے تو پہلے کیلئے حلال نہیں ہے حالانکہ اس سے پہلے ایت 228البقرہ میں الله نے واضح کیا کہ طلاق کے بعد عدت میں باہمی صلح کی شرط پر رجوع ہوسکتا ہے اور البقرہ آیات 231 اور 232 میں واضح فرمایا کہ عدت کی تکمیل کے بعد بھی معروف طریقے اور باہمی اصلاح سے رجوع ہوسکتا ہے اگر یہ کہا جائے کہ عورت کو الله نے قرآن کے ذریعے جو تحفظ دیا تھا تو یہ اس کی برکت ہے کہ آج انسانی فطرت کے مطابق قوانین بن گئے ہیں تو بے جا نہیں ہوگالیکن ہمارا مذہبی طبقہ بالکل اس سے بے خبر ہے اسلئے شوہر کے طلاق کی سزا عورت کو دی جاتی ہے حالانکہ یہ قرآن اور احادیث صحیحہ کے بالکل خلاف ہے پروفیسر صاحب بہت سارے علماء قائل بھی ہوگئے ہیں لیکن کھل کر اظہار نہیں کرسکتے اور بہت لوگوں نے بہت کھل کر تائید بھی کی ہے جن اخبار جہاں کراچی جنگ گروپ کے مفتی حسام اللہ شریفی بھی شامل ہیں جو 40 سال تک حلالہ کا فتوی دیتے رہے جو رابطہ عالم اسلامی کے رکن اور شریعت کورٹ آف پاکستان اور سپریم کورٹ شریعت اپیلٹ بینچ کے مشیر بھی ہیں اور مولانا احمدعلی لاہوری نے ان کو مسائل کا حل قرآن وسنت کی روشنی میں لکھنے کی اجازت دی تھی اور بھی کافی علماء نے تائید کی ہے والسلام
@ateequrrehmangillani acha kannan ko maar Diya phir saffiya rzt ko do choice milay ya laundi bano ya Meri bewi. Eik aurat ko zabardasti laundi banaya jaraha hai gift 🎁 ki bhi ho, neelaami ho roz us ki. Israr Ahmed ka video hai na ghulam laundi ko properties ki tarah banto gift Karo baap aur beta eik hi laundi par. Aap apnay ulema say poochiyay agar India Pakistan main akar yehi karay tho Phir tumhara kiya haal hoga .? Agar USA Afghanistan main yeh karta ya Israel Palestine main tho tum kiya feel kartay ? Aaj ki har Muslim aurat, mard yehi soch rahay hain 😮. Tum tho Socho gay nahee lekin Ummah jaag gayee hai
Taimur sir aap bahut chalaak and samajhdaar hain aur hum bhi aapko sun sun ke chalaak horahe hain. Shukeriya 🤣 Overall excellent research. Keep it up sir
@@Taimur_Laal😂😂 very clever laal. Rayhana bint Zayd. If someone kill u and ur sons then marry with ur daughter 😂😂 Popat Mauhmad or may b laal can marry with his own daughter in law😂
@@Taimur_Laalyou are loosing your integrity on your own channel. We thought of you as a man of science and integrity. Don’t be a Ghamdi. You are better than him.
@@Taimur_Laal Banu quraiza ki story sun kar parh har aurat, mard ki ankhoon main ansoo atay hain par mullay mazay say defend kartay hain. Please 🙏 don’t be part of them.
AoA sir Your argument that this event is doubtful ads narrator is 150 years after the prophet so I humbly say that All the sayings of Prophet were edited after at least 150 to 200 years after HIS death;the net result all AHADEES are questionable ⁉️⁉️. Mododi sahb wrote in Tafheem that Hazrat Abdullah bin Masood never accepted the Quran which was finally Compile in the Reign of Third Orthodox caliph.he had his own version of Quran which was different from today's version though Hazrat Usman ordered to burn all other versions of Quran. I think it was the event of just 18 years after the death of holly prophet then what is Ibn e ishaque Ibn e Hisham;Al tibri or Imam Malik. The written accounts on which based not only the history of muslims but FAITH.are these fundamental books 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@saliktanveer2605 the sources are the muslim sources themselves. Numerous hadiths from bukhari muslim abu dawood etc and each having different sanads. What can be more authentic?
These are some very interesting points you have raised here, especially that Banu Qurayza is not even a part of the Treaty of Medina. Also the quote of Imam Malik about Ibn Ishaq is very interesting. The fact that Ibn Ishaq took the story about Hadhrat Sad from a relative of his, cannot be disregarded. And this is something that needs to be a part of analysis of history, because humans tend to exaggerate when it comes to their own blood or for other benefits as well (remember it's a tribal society. Family, clan and tribe mean a lot). However, when you say why The Holy Prophet (SAW) didn't tak matters in his own hands when it came to the judgement of the Banu Qurayza. According to the story, he agreed to their demands: 1. Their judgement should be acording their law (Torah) and not the Quranic law. 2. A third person should pass the judgement and not the Holy Prophet (since he is the other party) 3. The third person should be Hadhrat Sa'd, since he belonged to their tribe (according to the story they expected better treatment from him)
@@oceandeep318 the issue is that it is modelled on the story by Josephus in which one of the leaders of the Jewish tribe itself (Eleazer) chose death for the entire tribe.
@@Taimur_Laal Yes, I missed to mention that point. This is highly dubious. And it's great that you have mentioned this. Taimur Sahib, once again it is a very good video, with a lot of points to ponder upon.
Thank you Dr Taimur Rahman for your research and your incredible effort. We always learn from your lectures. However, a lot time has elapsed, a lot of water has flowed under the bridge since the beginning of the Islamic era. During the last 1400 years hundreds of writers and historians came and they are no more. They left behind their writings and their books. For a layman it is very difficult to know who wrote what and if those writings were or were not biased. Finally I want to thank you for educating thousands of people through your vlogs.
Maulana Shibli Nomani was an Indian Islamic scholar. He would heavily rely on original Islamic sources of history in his writings but wherever he came across an unpleasant fact he would simply deny it outright contending that the given event had never happened as if he was present at that time. Dr saheb seems to be a true follower of Maulana Shibli Nomani.
History without any chain of narration is has low to no credibility in the first place. What is interesting is that when a case is built from Ahadith which have detailed chains of narrations and have the same details if events provided from different chains of narration, you simply ignore it under the premise of “biased” By that flawed logic there is not a single account in history or an understanding of history which is not biased or not impacted by the ideology of the one retelling it.
Sir ap ka point of view sir chakra Dene Wala hy or Jo sawal ap ne uthaie hain wo bohat strong hain agar wo sahi hain to. jese madina me mass grave ke nishan na milna. Or sir mera ap se aik sawal hy KIA banu kuraiza jaisa or koi mazeed waqiya hame Islam Ki tareekh me daikhne ko milta hy??
@@Taimur_Laal Fascinating! So now like Ghamidi you've become a whitewasher of the time honoured myths that we've proudly believed in for millennia. He's going around saying that Islam ended slavery 😂😂😂. I bet Ghamidi would be hard put to name 5 sahaba karam who refused to practice londibazi (concubinage) because they considered it immoral and unethical.
The SACRED text is not history books its the quran and ahadith, every well informed scholar knows that. And in your discussion, you somehow remembered to discuss the quranic ayah but not the ahadees. which are very clear on what happened. Dont mean to sound offensive, but seems like cherry picking.
Interesting , although historical critical method is criticized by mainstream scholarship as it can easily deny any incident / concept that a "progressive" scholar thinks is against his progressive understanding.
Wait a second... "Apostle said to muslims: rise in the honour of your chief." This order was not for all the Muslims, it was just for the muslims of Saad's tribe.
25:05 Apny ibn kathir mention kiya hain, likin tafsir ibn kathir main ye waqia, apky version sy different hain, waha Nabi S.A.W ko 25 din bad pata nahi chala. Waha lika hain ky jab Nabi S.A.W ghazva e khandaq dy wapis aye, tab Jabrail aya, or us ny farmaya ky hum ny hatyar abhi mahi raky, tab nabi s.a.w ny sahaba sy kaha ky chalo banu quraiza ky. Tu iska matlab hain ky Nabi S.A.W ko 25 din bad pata nahi chala, Sahaba ko inform Nabi S.A.W ny kiya ta ky chalo muhasyry ki liye. Dosri bat Nabi S.A.W chef of Justice ty medina ky, likin banu Quriza ny khud castle sy bahir nikal agai ky hamara faisla Saad ibn Muad karyga, isliye Nabi S.A.W ny nahi kiya. You should keep both versions of the story, not just the one which is related to ur concern
Bhai - honestly aap bolo ki history se islamphobiya nhi fail rhi balki islamic kafirfobia se world peresaan hoker jab swal ya jabab - retaliation kar rha hai usi ko aap islamphobiya bol rhe ho - zihad k nam per jo v terrorism aap aaz faila rhe ho aapki activities per Muhammed se us incident ko jab jod kar dekhte hai to same duplication milta hai to wah automatically justified ho jata hai - islamic terrorise strategy are not change from Muhammed to till now. Sab wahi hai, aur ab dhyan rakho 1-1 activities bhari padegi puri duniya me, sab apni wazud ki talas kar rhe hai! Aap v apna wazud ki talas kar lo - apni pahchan dhudh lo - apna uper ka nakali khal utar feko aapke purbazo per huye jurm ka marham hoga aur aane aanewali generation k liy sifat hogi! Faisla aapke hath me hai aap gulam hi rahna chahte ho ya aazadi ki saans lena chahte ho! Ha kosis jarur karna ki aapki family me koi aazaadi ki sans k sath koi paida ho kam se kam!
@@Taimur_Laal sir Kia ye practice SIRF Arabs hi karte the ya or bhi duniya me dusri nations or civilizations karte the sir ghulam banana Ka concept mne or bhi movies me Dekha hy jese gladiator or bhi bohat si movies me ?
@@umairarain6688 and Indians under Ashoka the Great had banned the slave trade 500 years before islam. Cyrus the great had also freed slaves. Iske baare mein yeh log nahin batayenge. And this is why Indian and Persian nationalists view islam with contempt
@@Taimur_Laal And why didn't alleged Allah ban that practice in Islam? In a hypothetical case, if Taliban won a battle against Pakistan, can they enslave non-Muslims of that region? If not why not Islamically?
Thank you Taimur sir, of late I also started reading some Islamic literatures written by liberal scholars, recently I concluded "Islamic Moses" by Author Mustafa Akyol, in that book, he also dealt with this very incident quiet holistically, and from there I got the sense of weaponization of this historical incident in recent times by Islamophobes, and got to know about the revisiting of this incident by modern historians, he quoted several of them, WN Arafat 1976- new light on story of banu qurayza and the jews of medina , Barakat Ahmad 1979-Muhammad and the jews:A re-examination, Hamza Yusuf, Shabbir Ally, Mohamad Jebara 2021- Muhammad, the world changer,recent work Muhammad's Military Expeditions: A critical Reading in original Muslim Sources by Ayman Ibrahim, western scholars like Fred Donner, Tom Holland. And then you made the video about it today. Thank you, Jazak Allah
@@Maaz_Shaikh123 thank you. Glad you liked it. Keep writing my friend. More interesting things coming up. PS. Some nice references. I’ve read some. Will also read the others. Thanks.
Tarek Fatah in his book The Jew is not my enemy has explained in detail that this incident never took place. Also note all the grievances against Islam are sourced from hadith books.
The sources of the incidents might not be authentic, but the map of the world does not deny. Take an example of Zoroastrians from Iran. The entire Middle East is dominated by Muslims. Where are those hundreds of pagan tribes across the Middle East? Now I would say it’s a great way to get views, likes, and subscriptions because we are living in the world of algorithms, so everyone is doing the same.
I heard from a speaker on this topic that Banu Qurayza when asked how they would like to be dealt with after their betryal. They asked to be dealt by the teachings of their own books. And the punishment was extracted from their own books and given to them.
I watched your entire video, Doctor Sahib, and I found it truly excellent. The way you analyzed this incident and debunked the fabricated story woven around it is highly commendable.
Sir ji, does Islam accept scientific thought process based on debate, discussion, questioning, logic, critical analysis, critical thinking, cross checking of evidence, proof & witness? Or is it just believing cooked-up stories, cock-&-bull stories, self proclamations and practising blind beliefs & blind faiths ....?
I think one must also study matter of ummul momineen hazarat e safiya’s story to get more clarity on the subject, also revelations in Quran on maal e ghanimat is another subject which needs to be explored to have better understanding
اپ کی تحقیق قابل ستائش ہے۔۔ اپ سے بہت سی باتوں میں اختلاف ہونے کے باوجود میں اپ کے کام کا معترف ہوں اپ جیسے ہی لوگ اس معاشرے کو اخلاقی پستی سے نکلنے میں بہت مدد فراہم کر سکتے ہیں❤❤
What a lovely video, make much sense. I myself also don't consider this a true story since it is clearly not inline with the "Rahmat Al Alameen" narrative we have for our beloved prophet.
So two conclusions can be drawn from this podcast. If the incident with Banu Quraiza is authentic, and as the Islamic Scholars like Maududi and Ghamidi accept that it happened and try to justify it , it show the violent nature of the religion. If they try to confine it that it was liable only for that period, it shows that this religion is time bound. If the incident is false and involves biases of the historian or is influenced by the accounts of Josephus, it raises the question of all Islamic history and Quran being true and authentic as Ibn Ishaq is widely considered one of the early historians of Islamic history. All in all, this podcast shows that Islamic history has been influenced and biased.
Very well-researched and amazing video. You have raised some thought provoking questions on this specific yet controversial event and your questions need to be addressed.
@omarkhan3256 hatespeech and ignorance is the reason history is clouded, we never want to heard the people we dislike. And with out knowing anything we label them as we wish. You should have an academic approach to history as I expect you are a student aimed at learning
@@adrakhussain8765 The reason Islamic history is clouded is because 1. no one was recorded it like a historian should. 2. Every group had its own agenda to promote so they altered (irretrievably) the narrative. An academic approach to history will tell you that Shia's in particular have concocted more myths and occult beliefs than anyone else, including prophet like status for their imams and concocted stories about the karbala massacre. So I have labeled them after knowing most things about them. If you are a student you should spend your time on something else and stop wasting your time on "Islamic history" and defending/promoting the shia and other cults.
محترم جناب بہت زبردست وی لاگ ہے میں نیں اسے دبیئ اور دیگر خلیج کے ممالک کے دوستوں کو شیئر کیا بہت پزیرائی ملی ہے بلاشبہ نبی کریم صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم سے ایسے رویے کی امید نہیں کی جا سکتی آپ جس جراتمندی سے یہ کام کرہے ہیں آپ کو سلام آپ کا ریگولر فالور ڈاکٹر اقبال سرور
@MerryAaqaMerymola Eik bahu say shadiyan karnay wala say kuch bhi expect kiya jasakta. Yeh Kainat ka Khuda Bahut crazy demand karta hai Mujhay bus adoption khatam karni hai tho bus Nabi tum apni adopted Betay ki bewi say shaadi Karlo. 😂. Bus yeh meri crazy demands hain 😂 kiya karoon. Ay nabi teray Dil mai kiya hai hum ko pata hai jo tu hum say chupa raha hai 😂.?
Abdul Malik was son of Marwan who was very close relative of Hazrat Usman and in fact people think Hazrat Usman was assassinated because of his close relation to Marwan. Marwan was Ummvi Khalif after Yazid 11. This is a bit intriguing that Abdul Malik has to ask someone else about life of Prophet Mohammad pbuh.
Please do an episode about when was first coin issued in Islamic state. What kind of coin were used during first four Khalifs and Ummvi regime afterward? This is the first requirement to establish a state. It will help to understand how early Muslim state evolved
wonderful ... your lecture cleared my mind regarding this incidence .. I always got disturbed after listening that how our Prophet PBUH can execute such brutal decision.
Ibn Ishaq died in 68 Hijra and Ibn Hisham died in 218 Hijra Based on this principal that any narration from a member of the family from Sahabi is to elevate the status of the Sahabi and his bloodline, then this will cause chaos even within Islam because you are giving a rule of Rijaal. This was presented to Rasool SAWW, Jews demanded Saad to be the arbitrator as he was(or use to be) a Jew. Imam Malik lived from 93 AH to 179 AH, you are rejecting one premise and accepting the other by compromising your own rules. You gave references to the book and made a video without even reading about this event, Jews demanded arbitrator of their choise and that arbitrator announced the ruling based on what punishment would be from Torah.
Should we also try to prove that Muslims didn't kill anyone in any wars? Hope you research also what Muslims were doing at Badr so many miles away from Medina and what lead to the skirmish?
Please must read “Muqaddama or Preface” of Tareekh Tabari in which writer says that this book is just compilation of Rewayats. I have not work on its authenticity I wrote as it is what I learned. The next generation will work on its authenticity. Therefore, it is not a reference book.
You missed countering Hadith ...You have put down your arms! By Allah, I have not put down my arms yet." Allah's Apostle said, "Where (to go now)?" Gabriel said, "This way," pointing towards the tribe of Bani Quraiza. So Allah's Apostle went out towards them.Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:68
سید احمد اکبر آبادی صاحب کا مقالہ بھی ڈاکٹر تیمور صاحب کے بعض اعتراضات کی تائید میں ہے۔ عہد نبوئ کے غزوات و سراپا اور انکے مآخذ پر ایک نظر مصنف: سید احمد اکبر آبادی
Aslamuallaikum Lkn un ki qbryn kidr hyn jb k 800 ya 900 ko dfn k lye ground chahye kya is ko reason bna kr 120 year s مسلمان ko shaheed kya gya lakhon Bosnia and other side pr
@@Taimur_LaalBecause the general amnesty was for their own people. Most of these people had relatives in Mecca who had refused to become Muslims where as Jews were not relatives just foreigners. We have been reading Islam since our birth we are being fed this. We are not doing academic dishonesty.
U know exactly what i am talking about. 20% to allah and his profit. Sura anfal. Now its sunnat as well as god sanctioned thing. Unlike other kings doing on their own
@@janbawaingade303 Eik bahu say shadiyan karnay wala say kuch bhi expect kiya jasakta. Yeh Kainat ka Khuda Bahut crazy demand karta hai Mujhay bus adoption khatam karni hai tho bus Nabi tum apni adopted Betay ki bewi say shaadi Karlo. 😂. Bus yeh meri crazy demands hain 😂 kiya karoon. Ay nabi teray Dil mai kiya hai hum ko pata hai jo tu hum say chupa raha hai 😂.?
This time your interpretation of the Quranic verses regarding this matter is extremely poor. You can simply check how many people died during the battle of the trench (which were just three from the quresh side). This number doesn't fit well with your interpretation.
Apropos the contention @21:40 that no bearer of burden will bear the burden of another it is not what is meant y Verses 6:164 17:15 and 53:38 which talk of bearing the burden by SOUL (which means justice after death on judgement day) and not by LIVING in the battle ground. Nice Taqiyya though.
Mr Taimur. I appreciate your honest efforts in this direction. You have put up and interesting argument. However I do believe that once the word is out in the "ether", it's very hard to recall it. And specially given that Quran and Allah clearly has made hatred for Jews bounding on muslims , you are fighting an uphill battle. It would be more appropriate if you would stick to your domain of expertise, which I believe is economics and political science. And don't venture in the world of Islamic history, which clearly is not your topic of expertise. Otherwise you may sound like a muslim apologist. I really like listening to your "other than Islam defending" topics. You seem very knowledgable in those!
Discussing early islamic history is a waste of time. There are no primary sources available. Dr. Taimur is just trying to use logic based on doubtful sources of information.
This is a very good and well-researched video. Many Muslims, including myself, have always thought that this incident and a few more such things seem inconsistent with the persona of the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) and Islam.👍👍👍👍
There can be questioned raisedd about the numbers and exact details but it is very clear according to the sources that such a incident took place. Also the the Amnesty of Makkah was conditioned by the acceptance of Islam by the Quraysh and those who didn't do so were exiled from Makkah. There isnt even a single incident where the Prophet (pbuh) simply let someone go if they committed a crime because that would undermine the rule of law.
Your vlog is more well researched than any done by any Islamic scholar in my knowledge. Keep up the good work
Accept truth, don't be ashamed
@janbawaingade303 Truth is it's a well researched vlog.
@@fahmad7194 i can understand every Muslims discomfort on Muhammads did. Its good in a way. Now they are rejecting hadiths, increasing age of ayesha, calling miraj a non physical thing, moon spliting a metaphorical thing etc.
But u can't change quran bro. And its clear
@janbawaingade303 All of that is down to interpretation and that has unfortunately been left to the least educated among us. I am glad to see brave guys like Dr Taimur trying to change that 👍
@@fahmad7194 even blaming interpretation shows that Muslims r uncomfortable with the quran. They reject what is obvious and add things which are not there. But i want to tell u. Slavery, pedophiilia, terrsm is bad, undefendable. No matter how much u try.
All violent events in Islamic history, tradition, and even the Quran, including this specific incident, should be critically examined through a historical lens and reinterpreted. This approach is essential to eliminate biases, clarify social narratives, and effectively address Islamophobia. Without such a thorough review and reconciliation of Islamic doctrines, any attempt to counter Islamophobia risks being superficial and ineffective.
This is an excellent effort by you, Dr. Taimur. You are steadily emerging as a leading figure in Islamic enlightenment and renaissance.
Marry an female from your house to him... You follow the real sunnat of mohammed
@@cclamba1 I do not follow fabricated Sunnah, especially after becoming aware of the distortions introduced by historians based on inaccurate information.
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Fear of Islam owing to its hatemongering against non-Muslims, oppression of half of Humanity (women) and killing of minority groups (apostates, blasphemers and gays) is Rational and not an unfounded Phobia. Islamic Enlightenment is contradictory within itself. It is collaborative whitewashing of an odious Ideology.
There is nothing to be critically examine. It is plain as daylight. Doing so is a waste of time and intelligence.
Banu Qaynuqa (whole tribe) was exiled for the crime of jew harassing a Muslim woman. isn't this collective punishment? is this moral in your opinion? Banu nadir (whole tribe) was exiled for the crime of failed assasination? is this moral in your opinion? if yes, then what about all the (successful) assassinations the prophet himself carried out in his life?
❤ absolutely right.
@@TalhaM-j3y the narrative is also found in Ibn Ishaq. The rest you can figure out after listening to my lecture.
Bhai aap ka naam kya hai? 😅
Benaam! Anonymous!
You mean poisoning of Muhammad by someone close to him!
Salam taimur bhai Great lecture. I have a question ?
So let me get this straight... you're saying that 150 years after the incident isn't credible but most hadith literature written 250 years after the fact is sahih. Ok.
No the vast majority of those are largely fabricated as well
Bro up ur hearing skills!
He spoke about isnad and chain of narration
you are comparing science of hadith with history 😂
you completely missed the point regarding asnad (chain of narration)
Aao aap bhi karo hamla. Aao! Frontier Bhai😂😂😂😂
ماشاءاللہ
ڈاکٹر تیمور الرحمن صاحب کا دلائل و براہین سے لبریز لاجواب وی لاگ ۔۔۔
it is so unfortunate that when any one starts defending his religion ... the rationality goes down the drain ... there are so many authentic hadith which are in conjunction with quran confirming jizya and slavery and concubinage and events of banu qurayza ... but it is more like ghamidian approach which simply cherry picks the citations that support narrative and reject even the most authentic hadiths of bukhari and muslim and even try changing the quranic interpretation which was not only accepted for hundreds of years in early islamic history but even defy the basic reading skills ... basic reading shows simple and plain barbarianism but ghamidian approach is simply to change the basic meanings of words
This is even worse than ghamdian approach. Even ghamidi sahb don't deny the happening of banu quraiza event
I also claim by using the historical method that all this Islamic narrative about an imaginary god in the sky may not be accurate. I hope Dr. Taimur does a video on that, it would be more fun then this :)
You will use historical method to justify metaphysics? 🤣🤣
@@batosato justify? I used the term 'may not be true' just like Dr. Taimur.
@@batosatotoo good
Historical records are not the right direct to look for the God.
@@fahadjavaid7336 yes but apparently they are very good at debunking the idea of 'the God'
They were killed for attempting to commit genocide against Muhammad & his followers. During the Battle of the Trench (khandaq), the Qurayzah broke their agreement and aided Muhammad’s ﷺ enemies and even made an unsuccessful attempt to attack the Muslims from the rear. After the battle was over, Muhammad’s ﷺ troops surrounded the village of Qurayzah upon a sacred decree from Alllah. The Qurayzah agreed to arbitration by their former ally Saad bin Muaz. Had they chosen Muhammad to be the judge, they probably would have gotten a more merciful sentence. it is important to note that the men of the tribe of Qurayzah were not killed on religious or racial grounds. None of the 17 other Jewish tribes in the oasis either objected or attempted to intervene, clearly regarding it as a purely political and tribal matter.” Which law did Saad use to come to a judgment that the Jews never questioned? Tribal law? No. Jewish law? Yes. Saad applied Jewish law to Jews. Saad’s verdict was in accordance with the Jewish law (Deut 20 v12 & Deut 20 v13 & Deut 20 v14). No other Jewish tribe objected to Saad’s decision as it was in accordance with their own Jewish law (Deut 20), not even Qurayzah were surprised.
Israel is doing the same thing now because Palestinians betrayed the ceasefire.
You think Prophet PBUH would apply a genocidal law? I don't think so.
@@Taimur_Laal I agree with You, Sir.
Prophet PBUH prayed for the people of Taif instead of cursing them, who assaulted him and caused him to bleed. He released war prisoners of Badr on his own. He forgave the Killer of His Brother-Like Uncle, whom he loved so much. He announced a public pardon for the disbelievers and polytheists of Makkah, except for a few people like Ikrimia ibne Abi jahal, about them he had commanded to kill them even if they were holding Ghilaf e Kaba. But later on, when Ikrima confronted Prophet PBUH, he forgave him.
As far as the incident of Quraizah is concerned, the people of Quraizah agreed to accept any decision made by Hazrat Saad, who applied their own law to them. Which was endorsed by Prophet PBUH on behalf of Allah. Thus, only their leaders and fighters got killed.
@@Taimur_Laal I think you should check your word "genocidal law" and do more research before sharing your thoughts.
@@Taimur_Laal the jews applied that law to themselves (and from their own scripture) by insisting that Saad bin muadh RA be their negotiator, they agreed to abide with whatever saad bin muadh decided for them. so the decision was not of the Prophets SAW who had banished several jewish tribes before this incidence but of saads' and the treacherous jews themselves.... please read a basic seerah book mr ignoramus
This is the problem with early Muslim history: it's shrouded behind a thick fog of conflicting narratives, ideological biases, and sparse contemporary sources. Much of what we know comes from accounts written decades or even centuries after the events they describe, often shaped by the theological and political contexts of the time. The lack of direct primary sources, coupled with the tendency of later historians to interpret events through a religious or political lens, makes it challenging to discern objective truths from myth, embellishments, or partisan retellings. This leaves modern scholars to sift through layers of sacred tradition and historiography to piece together a more accurate understanding of this defining period. The task seems insurmountable.
इस्लाम को अच्छा बताने वाले मोमिन विशेषकर उस समय जब कोई आतंकवादी घटना -घटित होती हैं. जब छोटी -छोटी बच्चिओ से दुष्कर्म होता है यहाँ तक के मदरसे के बच्चों से दुष्कर्म होता है या कही लव जेहाद होता है ये सपोले पालते हैं और खुद घास -फूस की तरह हैं तभी तो ये आतंकवादी घटना हो, दुष्कर्म हो इस पर ये बोलते नहीं हैं ये अधिकतर गैर -मुस्लिम से भेदभाव करते हैं और इनके ही मुस्लिम समाज का कोई व्यक्ति अगर सच्चाई के रास्ते पर चलता है तो ये उसका भी विरोध करते हैं उसे भी ये गैर मुस्लिम की तरह प्रताड़ित करते हैं. जब से इन लोगों ने इसरायल में उनके उत्सव पर मिसाइल से हमला किया तब से मेरा दिमाग़ खुद ब खुद इनके कुकर्मो पर विचार करने लगा लेकिन इजराइल ने इनको अच्छा सबक सिखाया, फिर ये लोग चाहे हिन्दू हो, जैन हो, बौद्ध हो, परासी हो, सीख हो, ईसाई हो एक तो सबके धार्मिक और मजहब के कार्यक्रम की आलोचना करते हैं या फिर कार्यक्रम मे रंग में भंग डालते हैं कही बम इस्फोट करते हैं. कही पत्थर चलाते हैं कही गाड़ी घुसेड़ देते हैं. कही किसी पर गाड़ी चढ़ा देते हैं जब इन पर कानूनी कार्यवाही होती है तब ये रोना रोने लगते हैं की हम मुसलमान हैं इसलिए हमारे ऊपर कार्यवाही की जा रही है और ये मौलाना, मौलवी झुंड के झुंड इन अपराधी के बचाव में आ जाते है कहते हैं इस्लाम शांति का मजहब है अरे शांति का मजहब क्या ये कहेगा की दूसरे पर पत्थर मारो, दूसरे की माँ, बहन, बेटी से दुष्कर्म करो, दूसरे की संपत्ति को नुकसान पहुचाओ ये शांति का रास्ता है या फिर हैवानियत का रास्ता है जब एक्स मुस्लिम इनकी साहित्य को खोल -खोल कर बयान कर रहें है तो आस्तिक और नास्तिक पर केवल चर्चा करते हैं ईश्वर है की नहीं है, अरे ईश्वर है की नहीं है इससे क्या मतलब है अरे तुम लोगो अपनी जिंदगी को अंधकार में जी रहें हो और दूसरे इंसान की जिंदगी को बर्बाद करते हो अरे किसी की जिंदगी में कुछ भलाई करके दिखाओ.
I think Dr. Taimur is trying to save his &(^(^ by doing a pro Islam video just to pacify the herd.
Not in every matter.
@@fahadjavaid7336 Yeah, and what matter is that. What matter is beyond any doubt?
ڈاکٹر صاحب آپ کی پہلی ویڈیو دیکھی ہے بہت اچھا لگا کہ آپ نے اس پر اچھی تحقیق کر رکھی ہے اللہ آپ کو اجر دے اور حقائق تک پہنچنے میں آسانی پیدا کرے۔
تاریخی واقعات کے بارے میں ایسے سوالات اٹھانے ضروری ہیں ورنہ وقت کے ساتھ ساتھ دین میں یہ تاریخی چیزیں شامل ہو جاتی ہیں۔
Sir why prophet Muhammad intimated with hazrate safiyyah on the martyrdom of her brother father and husband? Clear my doubt thrue video
It's because she herself wanted to marry the prophet
Hazrate safiya ek sardar ki beti thi war me uske bhai bap mare gae wo ek qaidi thi unhen kisi sardar ki level ke mujahid ki londi hi banna tha ya kisi sardar level ke mujahid se nikah krna tha so wo unhon ne nikah hi kiya wo bhi sb se bare Martabe wali shakhsiyat se londion ki taqseem unke sabiqa mansab ke mutabiq hi ki jati thi take muslim muashre me aakr bhi uski self respect me kami na ho esa nhi hota tha k kisi sardar ki beti jo londi bn kr aae ek muslim ghulam ko di jae ye hi waja hai hazrate safiya ke samne 2 hi option the ya wo kisi sardar abu bakkar ummar usman ali jese shakhs ki londi banti ya Nikah krti unhon ne kisi ki londi banne ki bajae Nabi pak saw ke sath nikah ko tarjee di or sare Muslims ki ummul Momineen ka status paya
Spending thw wedding night togethet doesnt mean one will have physical relation with hsi wife and as per tradition the wife of the defeated kings get married to the winner whats really wrong in that? U are sitting in 2024 talking about 600Ad
@@Dilzak69 exactly! we should also not be talking about a primitive religion based on myths and stories from 600Ad and before in 2024.
A prophet should stand at a higher moral pedestal than the customs of his era
Tries good to defend Islaam but not enough 😂
Phaly kafee time sy wo asi baty kr rahy thy jiski waja sy apostate hony ka ilzam lag saktha tha unpy ye vid zururi thi molvis sy bachny k liye.
Million dollars question is where those exiled jews are now
What about Umm Qirfa can you explain please
Weak! Not proven
@@Wereview_by_salman dally ... dalali cor de
Please debate with Adam Seeker on this topic. I think he is the encyclopedia of iskamic literature. .. He is available along with Exmuslim Sahil in exmuslim Sahil channel on Tuesday and Friday and Saturday 9.30 pm onwards.
Even if we acknowledge that this particular tribe was not massacarred, Please give your precious opionion about poets who were assasinated on PBUH's orders in Mecca while he himself was in Medina. His(PBUH)'s attitude towards his critic poets or those who mocked him was not at all kind. Even if we acknowledge that their criticism was a mockery. Still that should not call for assasination attempts. List of peots who were murdered include Al-Nadir Ibn Al-Harith, Uqba ibn Abu Muayt, Abu Afak, Asma Bint Marwan, Kab bin Ashraf, Fartana & her sister who used to sing songs mocking the prophet, Kab ibn Zuhayr. I would really appreciate your academic stance about these
Other than this concern, Even Qaiser Ahmad Raja will praise you for the lengths you have to gone to present this new prespective. You are indeed an ''Erudite'' & ''Polymath''
Please particularly present the case of Kab bin Ashraf who was assasinated
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The actions taken against these individuals were not merely a reaction to verbal mockery; rather, they were in response to perceived threats to the security and stability of the Muslim community, which was under constant threat from external enemies and internal dissent. In some cases, the poets were seen as playing an active role in plotting against the Prophet and his followers, using their words as weapons to fuel conflict and violence. In the pre-Islamic Arabian culture, poets held significant sway. Their words could incite entire communities and lead to violence or wars. In that context, many poets who criticized Muhammad's message were not simply mocking him but were seen as actively working to sow discord and incite hostility between the Muslims and others, including the powerful Quraysh tribe in Mecca.
@afiasherazi1051 💯
Can I volunteer in translating your videos into English? Especially this video?
I support your initiative!
AI should be able to do that now
@@POV_hamza go ahead.
Please do a decent job , please. This is a very important video
@@quez there is no engagement on AI translated videos I saw that
From Marxism to Islamic apologetics. Journey of all Pakistani tatilectuals
😅😅😅😅 absolutely
yup, it's sad actually how these so called communists have to become islamic theologians to find space is this dumbass coutnry
@@Lastman1900 it’s just a different take on history. Why does it disturb you so much? Can Marxists not talk about history?
@@Taimur_Laal Apologies for the foul language. I haven't even listened to what you said in the video because I had a hunch about what you were going to say, considering your dwelling circumstances.
In that spirit, I made the above comment. It's just the pandering I can't take. You are doing great work; I have no complaints. It was just a spur-of-the-moment thing. I saw the title and posted the comment.
@ don't judge a book by its cover.
Absolutely loved this, highly appreciated Sir. I had the same question in my mind which always used to haunt me that 'How Prophet (PBUH) who always in his life emphasized on peace & discouraged violence can allow the complete genocide of a tribe?' Unfortunately, we have made everything sacred and highly unquestionable which has even a little link with the religion, either it is history, literature or any personal opinions.
Islam and Peace are mutually exclusive; in history as well as in present times
Al-Taqayya… nothing else
Deception and falsehood
Without lies…. Islam dies…
Without lust … it is dust….
@@deepsareen1 your opinion is objectively wrong and based in hatred and bias.
Sir aapki baaton se yeh pata chala k muslmaan kitna bhi educated ho jhoot bolna nahi shod sakta thankyou .
@@h.s.b9551 what a racist thing to say.
@@Taimur_Laal Kia Sirf tum hi raCist ho sakte ho?
It is not a racist comment it is to expose your denying this bano quraiza incident. All the Hadiths and Muslim Ulema is confirming it but you are denying it, isn't it a big joke.@@Taimur_Laal
@@Taimur_Laalاسلاموفوبیا کا استعمال کرنا شروع کر دیا داڑھی چٹ مولوی تیمور لال نے 😂
These people are having the hate deep in their hearts against Islam that they will show their real-self only in the comments as well as not really thinking about what they are talking and not wanting to renew their belief by finding the proof and evidences by themselves and thinking for it for a moment imo, maybe these people are from the ignorant people.
Dear Sir If you feel comfortable please upload this video in English also.
what you didn't mention here is the hadith record if any about this episode and the chain of command for that narration.
سَر جی، آپ کا بہت شکریہ اتنا اچھا اور درست فکر و سوچ دینے والا لیکچر دینے کا۔ جزاک اللہ۔
Taimur saheb. Aisha ki age aur muhammad saw ke income sources pe bhi bata den sir.
According to shia historians umul momineen aisha was 21 when she got married to Prophet p.b.u.h and Prophet belonged to affluent family of banu hashim they owned land and used to do trade.
BTW can you please educate me about the draupadi , whome did she marry?
@@mohammadjaffarabbas9880 not so true.
After Nabuwat Muhammad (S.A.W) used to get money through baitulmal also. He (PBUH) never did trade after Nabuwat as for as I know. You can bring the reference, if I'm wrong.
What was the first profession/vocation that Muslims adopted as a community in Madina?
@@danimalik7078 According to a hadith of Shi'ite Derham (silver coin) comes from Dar-ol-hamm (the house of suffer), and Dinar (Golden coin) comes from Dar-on-Nar (the house of fire), that is, gathering silver and golden coins (or say money in general) without caring for the life of poor people would be like saving suffer and fire for ourselves, and this is what we have been prohibited from. In other words, being rich is not bad but not caring the poor people will be. Having more money to help the others more is by no means discouraged. And the prophet S.A. in Mecca had this situation, he was not a ruler at that time as there was no Islamic society established yet. His wife Khadijeh was a rich woman before she married with Muhammad the trustworthy, S.A., and she dedicated all that he had to his husband. When Muhammad S.A. became a prophet those who were absorbed to him were under restrictions from the atheists of Mecca. In the last three years of his living in Mecca (before traveling to Medina) the Muslims were boycotted by the atheists of Mecca, they became poor and there were days that they had nothing to eat. That was where the holy prophet S.A. spent all that he had for the Muslims and became poor. Then Abi-Taleb and Khadijeh A.S. died in the last year of the prohibition. After the prohibition the Prophet left Mecca to Medina and there he established a society based on Islam, a government, and he was at the top. He could have an easy life as his earns from wars and etc. but he preferred to remain his level of living at the level of the poorest in his society and he also commanded this to his succeeders, the ones Shia Muslims know as Imams.
Ali, A.S., in the times of three first Caliphs was a farmer, his income was just too much, he was perhaps one of the richest of the time, although he always used to live simple (like Soleiman A.S., the prophet, used to live when he was king), an ascetic life. Then he became the fourth Caliph and as the order of his brother Muhammad S.A. switched his life to a simple level again, sitting on the door of his house for people could more easily visit him, the Caliph, and etc.
Once Imam Sadiq A.S. was asked why he is rich and he answered because he is not the ruler. However at the same time he was living an ascetic way.
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How come this whitewashed view of Lusty Mo is a minority one?
Excellent Analysis, I learned soo many things from You, you are just away one good editor 😅
پروفیسر تیمور صاحب ! الحمدللہ میں مدارس کے معتبر اور راسخ العقیدہ علماء کرام کا شاگرد ہوں جن میں جامعہ بنوری ٹاؤن کراچی بھی شامل ہے اور ملک بھر کے بہت معتبر علماء کرام نے میری تائید بھی کی ہے آپ نے واقعہ کو جس طرح سے تحقیقات کرکے بتایا ہے یہ بہت خوش آئند ہے حالانکہ مجھے آپ سے یہ توقع ہرگز نہیں تھی اسلئے کہ آپ انسانیت پر یقین رکھتے ہیں اور شاید بہت ساری چیزیں آپ کو اپنے معیار کے مطابق ٹھیک بھی نہیں لگتی ہوں اور انصاف اور فطرت اور انسانیت کا تقاضا بھی یہی ہے آپ کی اس بات کی تائید قرآن کی سورہ آل عمران آیت 128 سے بھی ہوتی ہے جس میں نبی صلی اللہ علیہ والہ وسلم سے اللہ نے فرمایا کہ لیس لک من الأمر شیء کہ آپ کا یہ کام نہیں ہے جب عامر بن طفیل نے دھوکہ دے کر 70 قاریوں کو شہید کیا تو اس پر نبی صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم نے اس کےلئے بربادی کی اللہ سے التجا کردی اور اس پر اللہ نے فرمایا کہ یہ آپ کا کام نہیں ہے جب اللہ نے بیرمعونہ کے اتنے بڑے واقعہ میں بد دعا کےلئے بھی منع فرمایا تھا تو بنی قریظہ سے متعلق اتنے بڑے واقعہ کو وحی سے کیسے جوڑا جاسکتا ہے اور اگر کوئی واقعہ ہوتا تو اس کا ذکر بھی اسی طرح متفقہ طور پر ہوتا اسلئے کہ جس چیز کو قرآن اور حدیث کی تائید حاصل ہو تو لامحالہ اس پر اتفاق ہوتا ہے پروفیسر صاحب آپ نے بنوں کے علماء اور ایک پروفیسر پر ویلاگ کیا تھا جس میں عورت کے بارے تفصیل سے بتایا تھا کہ وہ تعلیم میں کس کس چیز میں ڈگریاں حاصل کرچکی ہیں اور وہ اخبار بنوں شہر میں بھی پہنچا دیا تھا آپ بہت اچھا ذہن رکھتے ہیں یہ تو ایک واقعہ ہے لیکن آگر بہت بڑے بڑے مروجہ مسائل اور ٹھوس واضح آیات پر مولانا مودودی اور غامدی کا ترجمہ دیکھ لیں تو سر پیٹ کر رہ جائیں گے ایک آیت البقرہ 229 ہی کو دیکھ لیں جہاں اللہ نے دو مرتبہ طلاق کے بعد تیسری مرتبہ معروف رجوع یا احسان کیساتھ رخصت کرنے کا حکم دیا ہے اور رخصت کرنے کا فیصلہ کرنے کی صورت میں حکم دیا ہے کہ عورت کو جو چیزیں بھی دی ہیں تو اس میں سے کوئی چیز بھی واپس لینا حلال نہیں مگر جب دونوں کو خوف ہو کہ وہ دونوں اللہ کے حکم پر قائم نہیں رہ سکیں گے ( اے فیصلہ کرنےوالو) اگر تمہیں یہ خوف ہو کہ وہ دونوں اللہ کی حدود پر قائم نہیں رہ سکیں گے تو پھر عورت کی طرف سے اس چیز کو فدیہ کرنے میں دونوں پر کوئی حرج نہیں ہے جس کا واضح مطلب یہی ہے کہ اگر دی ہوئی چیز دونوں میں رابطے کا ذریعہ اور اختلاط کی وجہ سے دونوں کے لئے جنسی بے راہ روی کے شکار ہونے کا خوف ہو تو وہ دی ہوئی چیز واپس کرنے میں دونوں پر حرج نہیں اسلئے کہ عورت اپنی عزت کی خاطر وہ چیز فدائی کی طرح قربان کرے گی اس میں خلع کا کوئی تصور لینا کتنا غلط ہے کہ اللہ نے عورت کو طلاق کے بعد مالی تحفظ دیا ہے اور اس تحفظ کا ذکر سورہ النساء ایت 20 اور 21 میں بھی ہے لیکن بدقسمت مسلمان عورت کو غلط تفسیر و ترجمہ کی وجہ سے خلع پر مجبور کردیا جاتا ہے مالی تحفظ کی جگہ اس کو بلیک میل کرنے کا شکار کیا جاتا ہے جہاں تک خلع کے حق کی بات ہے تو سورہ النساء آیت 19 میں اس کی وضاحت ہے جس میں منقولہ دی ہوئی چیزیں بھی شوہر واپس نہیں لے سکتا اور ایت البقرہ 229 میں طلاق کی وہ صورت واضح ہے کہ جس میں میاں بیوی اور فیصلہ کرنے والے اس باٹ پر متفق ہوں کہ انہوں نے صلح نہیں کرنی ہے شوہر جب بیوی کو بسانا نہیں چاہتا تب بھی ازادی سے عورت کو کسی اور سے بسااوقات نکاح نہیں کرنے دیتا اسلئے اللہ نے اس غیرت کو ختم کرنے کیلئے واضح فرمایا کہ جب تک دوسرے شوہر سے وہ نکاح نہ کرے تو پہلے کیلئے حلال نہیں ہے حالانکہ اس سے پہلے ایت 228البقرہ میں الله نے واضح کیا کہ طلاق کے بعد عدت میں باہمی صلح کی شرط پر رجوع ہوسکتا ہے اور البقرہ آیات 231 اور 232 میں واضح فرمایا کہ عدت کی تکمیل کے بعد بھی معروف طریقے اور باہمی اصلاح سے رجوع ہوسکتا ہے اگر یہ کہا جائے کہ عورت کو الله نے قرآن کے ذریعے جو تحفظ دیا تھا تو یہ اس کی برکت ہے کہ آج انسانی فطرت کے مطابق قوانین بن گئے ہیں تو بے جا نہیں ہوگالیکن ہمارا مذہبی طبقہ بالکل اس سے بے خبر ہے اسلئے شوہر کے طلاق کی سزا عورت کو دی جاتی ہے حالانکہ یہ قرآن اور احادیث صحیحہ کے بالکل خلاف ہے پروفیسر صاحب بہت سارے علماء قائل بھی ہوگئے ہیں لیکن کھل کر اظہار نہیں کرسکتے اور بہت لوگوں نے بہت کھل کر تائید بھی کی ہے جن اخبار جہاں کراچی جنگ گروپ کے مفتی حسام اللہ شریفی بھی شامل ہیں جو 40 سال تک حلالہ کا فتوی دیتے رہے جو رابطہ عالم اسلامی کے رکن اور شریعت کورٹ آف پاکستان اور سپریم کورٹ شریعت اپیلٹ بینچ کے مشیر بھی ہیں اور مولانا احمدعلی لاہوری نے ان کو مسائل کا حل قرآن وسنت کی روشنی میں لکھنے کی اجازت دی تھی اور بھی کافی علماء نے تائید کی ہے والسلام
جناب اپنی فیس بک آئی ڈی یا اگر کوئی پیج ہو تو ادھر میشن کریں تاکہ آپ سے مذید علم حاصل کیا جا سکے۔ ماشاء اللہ آپ نے بہت اہم اور اچھی باتیں کی ہیں
bhai ap ki baat ki koi samjh nai ayi. baat banu quraiza ki ho rahi ha. or ap bich ma triple talaq ya halala ka masla ly kr baith gai ho.
اگلی ویڈیو آپ کس سچائی کے خلاف کھڑا کریں گے؟
@ateequrrehmangillani acha kannan ko maar Diya phir saffiya rzt ko do choice milay ya laundi bano ya Meri bewi. Eik aurat ko zabardasti laundi banaya jaraha hai gift 🎁 ki bhi ho, neelaami ho roz us ki. Israr Ahmed ka video hai na ghulam laundi ko properties ki tarah banto gift Karo baap aur beta eik hi laundi par. Aap apnay ulema say poochiyay agar India Pakistan main akar yehi karay tho Phir tumhara kiya haal hoga .? Agar USA Afghanistan main yeh karta ya Israel Palestine main tho tum kiya feel kartay ? Aaj ki har Muslim aurat, mard yehi soch rahay hain 😮. Tum tho Socho gay nahee lekin Ummah jaag gayee hai
@@irfanshafique5474batoon ko ghomana mullah ka kaam hai 😂
Taimur sir aap bahut chalaak and samajhdaar hain aur hum bhi aapko sun sun ke chalaak horahe hain. Shukeriya 🤣 Overall excellent research. Keep it up sir
@@ChummaKhan-z3q I’m not chalak yar. Pretty straightforward sort of person actually. Quite naive to be honest.
Thank you for appreciating my work.
@@Taimur_Laal😂😂 very clever laal. Rayhana bint Zayd. If someone kill u and ur sons then marry with ur daughter 😂😂 Popat Mauhmad or may b laal can marry with his own daughter in law😂
@@Taimur_Laalyou are loosing your integrity on your own channel. We thought of you as a man of science and integrity. Don’t be a Ghamdi. You are better than him.
@@Taimur_Laal Banu quraiza ki story sun kar parh har aurat, mard ki ankhoon main ansoo atay hain par mullay mazay say defend kartay hain. Please 🙏 don’t be part of them.
You should talk to Ghalib Kamal or Awais Iqbal, if today’s Islam is believed in violence then how can we expect better from them in those days
Professor, this question is not about economics but about sociology.
Don't you have any other option apart from Urdu and/or English in Pakistan?
Pakistan me yahi dono jyada chalti
@agnostic_atheists
Let him answer
AoA sir
Your argument that this event is doubtful ads narrator is 150 years after the prophet so I humbly say that All the sayings of Prophet were edited after at least 150 to 200 years after HIS death;the net result all AHADEES are questionable ⁉️⁉️.
Mododi sahb wrote in Tafheem that Hazrat Abdullah bin Masood never accepted the Quran which was finally Compile in the Reign of Third Orthodox caliph.he had his own version of Quran which was different from today's version though Hazrat Usman ordered to burn all other versions of Quran.
I think it was the event of just 18 years after the death of holly prophet then what is Ibn e ishaque
Ibn e Hisham;Al tibri or Imam Malik.
The written accounts on which based not only the history of muslims but FAITH.are these fundamental books 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
You are not convincing, failed to defend that mass massacre.
Ye log jis cheez ko defend kar pai usko deny kar dete hain.
how about you give it a shot? try to prove the massacre happened by brining better/more reliable sources.
@saliktanveer2605 quran, hadees.
@@saliktanveer2605 the sources are the muslim sources themselves. Numerous hadiths from bukhari muslim abu dawood etc and each having different sanads. What can be more authentic?
@@talk_crypto very elaborate, truly convinced now 👏
I am Sufi muslim from gujrat India , you are most rational, unbiased , and with proof. .
I am fan of your.
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I as Muslim I have met many great men and they are Jew very humble and caring and very friendly
These are some very interesting points you have raised here, especially that Banu Qurayza is not even a part of the Treaty of Medina. Also the quote of Imam Malik about Ibn Ishaq is very interesting. The fact that Ibn Ishaq took the story about Hadhrat Sad from a relative of his, cannot be disregarded. And this is something that needs to be a part of analysis of history, because humans tend to exaggerate when it comes to their own blood or for other benefits as well (remember it's a tribal society. Family, clan and tribe mean a lot).
However, when you say why The Holy Prophet (SAW) didn't tak matters in his own hands when it came to the judgement of the Banu Qurayza. According to the story, he agreed to their demands:
1. Their judgement should be acording their law (Torah) and not the Quranic law.
2. A third person should pass the judgement and not the Holy Prophet (since he is the other party)
3. The third person should be Hadhrat Sa'd, since he belonged to their tribe (according to the story they expected better treatment from him)
@@oceandeep318 the issue is that it is modelled on the story by Josephus in which one of the leaders of the Jewish tribe itself (Eleazer) chose death for the entire tribe.
@@Taimur_Laal Yes, I missed to mention that point. This is highly dubious. And it's great that you have mentioned this.
Taimur Sahib, once again it is a very good video, with a lot of points to ponder upon.
What do you mean modelled? You can say precedent
@ I mean modelled not precedent. Precedent does not convey what I am trying to say.
The story is modelled along the same lines.
@@Taimur_LaalProbably pissed off at tribe or wanted to get part of the maal e ganimah. Quite obvious to all of us now.
Thank you Dr Taimur Rahman for your research and your incredible effort. We always learn from your lectures. However, a lot time has elapsed, a lot of water has flowed under the bridge since the beginning of the Islamic era. During the last 1400 years hundreds of writers and historians came and they are no more. They left behind their writings and their books. For a layman it is very difficult to know who wrote what and if those writings were or were not biased. Finally I want to thank you for educating thousands of people through your vlogs.
This is Taqyyia and not research
This is called unbiased research 👍👍👍 histiry is worth questioning , and Dr , you really havw done justice to it in my humble opinion
Well what else to expat from a known islamophob
@@zillshadow please comment after watching the video. Many thanks.
Maulana Shibli Nomani was an Indian Islamic scholar. He would heavily rely on original Islamic sources of history in his writings but wherever he came across an unpleasant fact he would simply deny it outright contending that the given event had never happened as if he was present at that time. Dr saheb seems to be a true follower of Maulana Shibli Nomani.
History without any chain of narration is has low to no credibility in the first place.
What is interesting is that when a case is built from Ahadith which have detailed chains of narrations and have the same details if events provided from different chains of narration, you simply ignore it under the premise of “biased”
By that flawed logic there is not a single account in history or an understanding of history which is not biased or not impacted by the ideology of the one retelling it.
Sir please mention your expertise subjects
Sir ap ka point of view sir chakra Dene Wala hy or Jo sawal ap ne uthaie hain wo bohat strong hain agar wo sahi hain to.
jese madina me mass grave ke nishan na milna.
Or sir mera ap se aik sawal hy KIA banu kuraiza jaisa or koi mazeed waqiya hame Islam Ki tareekh me daikhne ko milta hy??
@@umairarain6688 there are other incidents but they are not on this scale of violence.
@@Taimur_Laal
Fascinating!
So now like Ghamidi you've become a whitewasher of the time honoured myths that we've proudly believed in for millennia. He's going around saying that Islam ended slavery 😂😂😂.
I bet Ghamidi would be hard put to name 5 sahaba karam who refused to practice londibazi (concubinage) because they considered it immoral and unethical.
@@Taimur_Laal thank you sir for read my comment and answer my question 🙂
@@TabiyaDarit’s called doing lipstick and makeup 💄 😂
@@TabiyaDar they were sharing those concubines as gifts and properties too.
The SACRED text is not history books its the quran and ahadith, every well informed scholar knows that.
And in your discussion, you somehow remembered to discuss the quranic ayah but not the ahadees. which are very clear on what happened.
Dont mean to sound offensive, but seems like cherry picking.
Amazing research. We Muslims must not be afraid to ask genuine questions. Allah is Haq and after honest research we will always end up with Truth.
Honest research. Whenever you guys find it difficult to defend you deny the whole event.
@@talk_crypto lol 😂.
Acha to aap islam ko teek sabit karte karte Quran ko hi ghalat keh diya.
What is the connection between marxims and islam
Sir ji kya kuran m mohammad bin abdula naam aya h .
نہایت قابلِ غور اور علم و منتق کے قریب لیکچر ❤❤❤
بہترین 😊
Nicely represented slides along with explanation without any biasness
Presentend all sides of arguments
Great work sir👍👍
Interesting , although historical critical method is criticized by mainstream scholarship as it can easily deny any incident / concept that a "progressive" scholar thinks is against his progressive understanding.
Wait a second... "Apostle said to muslims: rise in the honour of your chief." This order was not for all the Muslims, it was just for the muslims of Saad's tribe.
25:05 Apny ibn kathir mention kiya hain, likin tafsir ibn kathir main ye waqia, apky version sy different hain, waha Nabi S.A.W ko 25 din bad pata nahi chala. Waha lika hain ky jab Nabi S.A.W ghazva e khandaq dy wapis aye, tab Jabrail aya, or us ny farmaya ky hum ny hatyar abhi mahi raky, tab nabi s.a.w ny sahaba sy kaha ky chalo banu quraiza ky.
Tu iska matlab hain ky Nabi S.A.W ko 25 din bad pata nahi chala, Sahaba ko inform Nabi S.A.W ny kiya ta ky chalo muhasyry ki liye. Dosri bat Nabi S.A.W chef of Justice ty medina ky, likin banu Quriza ny khud castle sy bahir nikal agai ky hamara faisla Saad ibn Muad karyga, isliye Nabi S.A.W ny nahi kiya.
You should keep both versions of the story, not just the one which is related to ur concern
Bhai - honestly aap bolo ki history se islamphobiya nhi fail rhi balki islamic kafirfobia se world peresaan hoker jab swal ya jabab - retaliation kar rha hai usi ko aap islamphobiya bol rhe ho - zihad k nam per jo v terrorism aap aaz faila rhe ho aapki activities per Muhammed se us incident ko jab jod kar dekhte hai to same duplication milta hai to wah automatically justified ho jata hai - islamic terrorise strategy are not change from Muhammed to till now.
Sab wahi hai, aur ab dhyan rakho 1-1 activities bhari padegi puri duniya me, sab apni wazud ki talas kar rhe hai! Aap v apna wazud ki talas kar lo - apni pahchan dhudh lo - apna uper ka nakali khal utar feko aapke purbazo per huye jurm ka marham hoga aur aane aanewali generation k liy sifat hogi! Faisla aapke hath me hai aap gulam hi rahna chahte ho ya aazadi ki saans lena chahte ho! Ha kosis jarur karna ki aapki family me koi aazaadi ki sans k sath koi paida ho kam se kam!
Prisoners of war ko ghulam rakh late ya bech dia karte Thai. Wow. Very well Sir. Kya bat hai.
@@tayyabtalu3271 it’s the truth. They either took them as slaves or ransomed them back. This was the practice of the Arabs.
@@Taimur_Laal sir Kia ye practice SIRF Arabs hi karte the ya or bhi duniya me dusri nations or civilizations karte the sir ghulam banana Ka concept mne or bhi movies me Dekha hy jese gladiator or bhi bohat si movies me ?
@ of course. Romans had legions of slaves. Massive slave revolts also occurred.
@@umairarain6688 and Indians under Ashoka the Great had banned the slave trade 500 years before islam. Cyrus the great had also freed slaves.
Iske baare mein yeh log nahin batayenge. And this is why Indian and Persian nationalists view islam with contempt
@@Taimur_Laal And why didn't alleged Allah ban that practice in Islam? In a hypothetical case, if Taliban won a battle against Pakistan, can they enslave non-Muslims of that region? If not why not Islamically?
Thank you Taimur sir, of late I also started reading some Islamic literatures written by liberal scholars, recently I concluded "Islamic Moses" by Author Mustafa Akyol, in that book, he also dealt with this very incident quiet holistically, and from there I got the sense of weaponization of this historical incident in recent times by Islamophobes, and got to know about the revisiting of this incident by modern historians, he quoted several of them, WN Arafat 1976- new light on story of banu qurayza and the jews of medina , Barakat Ahmad 1979-Muhammad and the jews:A re-examination, Hamza Yusuf, Shabbir Ally, Mohamad Jebara 2021- Muhammad, the world changer,recent work Muhammad's Military Expeditions: A critical Reading in original Muslim Sources by Ayman Ibrahim, western scholars like Fred Donner, Tom Holland.
And then you made the video about it today.
Thank you, Jazak Allah
@@Maaz_Shaikh123 thank you. Glad you liked it. Keep writing my friend. More interesting things coming up.
PS. Some nice references. I’ve read some. Will also read the others. Thanks.
Thank you so much Taimur sir, U raed and replied, it's a big thing for me@@Taimur_Laal
@@Taimur_Laalsir, thank you for reading and replying to my comment, it's a big thing for me, keep uploading such videos, Jazak Allah
Tarek Fatah in his book The Jew is not my enemy has explained in detail that this incident never took place.
Also note all the grievances against Islam are sourced from hadith books.
So nearly half of sunnah is suspect?
Yes, become quranist and eventually Christian then
The Quran is just an exegesis of the Bible with local Arab stories woven in
The sources of the incidents might not be authentic, but the map of the world does not deny. Take an example of Zoroastrians from Iran. The entire Middle East is dominated by Muslims. Where are those hundreds of pagan tribes across the Middle East? Now I would say it’s a great way to get views, likes, and subscriptions because we are living in the world of algorithms, so everyone is doing the same.
I heard from a speaker on this topic that Banu Qurayza when asked how they would like to be dealt with after their betryal. They asked to be dealt by the teachings of their own books. And the punishment was extracted from their own books and given to them.
I watched your entire video, Doctor Sahib, and I found it truly excellent. The way you analyzed this incident and debunked the fabricated story woven around it is highly commendable.
Sir ji, does Islam accept scientific thought process based on debate, discussion, questioning, logic, critical analysis, critical thinking, cross checking of evidence, proof & witness? Or is it just believing cooked-up stories, cock-&-bull stories, self proclamations and practising blind beliefs & blind faiths ....?
Even the Holy Quran is written after a few centuries ?
آئمہ اہلبیت کا اس موضوع پر کیا موقف ہے؟؟؟؟
I think one must also study matter of ummul momineen hazarat e safiya’s story to get more clarity on the subject, also revelations in Quran on maal e ghanimat is another subject which needs to be explored to have better understanding
Quite right.
Spin-doctoring dacoity into "halal" Maal-e-ghanimat is an admirably moral achievement.
JazakaAllah
@@behtereen4187Lol 😂
اپ کی تحقیق قابل ستائش ہے۔۔
اپ سے بہت سی باتوں میں اختلاف ہونے کے باوجود میں اپ کے کام کا معترف ہوں اپ جیسے ہی لوگ اس معاشرے کو اخلاقی پستی سے نکلنے میں بہت مدد فراہم کر سکتے ہیں❤❤
This episode of history has always been challenging to come to terms with.
What a lovely video, make much sense. I myself also don't consider this a true story since it is clearly not inline with the "Rahmat Al Alameen" narrative we have for our beloved prophet.
Meetha Metha Huff Huff, Kadwa Kadwa tho tho!
So two conclusions can be drawn from this podcast.
If the incident with Banu Quraiza is authentic, and as the Islamic Scholars like Maududi and Ghamidi accept that it happened and try to justify it , it show the violent nature of the religion. If they try to confine it that it was liable only for that period, it shows that this religion is time bound.
If the incident is false and involves biases of the historian or is influenced by the accounts of Josephus, it raises the question of all Islamic history and Quran being true and authentic as Ibn Ishaq is widely considered one of the early historians of Islamic history.
All in all, this podcast shows that Islamic history has been influenced and biased.
Very well-researched and amazing video. You have raised some thought provoking questions on this specific yet controversial event and your questions need to be addressed.
this story is written in books of hadiths i.e bukhari, muslim aswell
i would like to suggest including perspectives of SHIA scholars like Syed Jawad Naqvi, as well.
Yes, as if the history is not clouded enough, we need to bring in the perspective of the scholars of a cult to clear things up, Nice!
@omarkhan3256 hatespeech and ignorance is the reason history is clouded, we never want to heard the people we dislike. And with out knowing anything we label them as we wish. You should have an academic approach to history as I expect you are a student aimed at learning
@@adrakhussain8765 The reason Islamic history is clouded is because 1. no one was recorded it like a historian should. 2. Every group had its own agenda to promote so they altered (irretrievably) the narrative. An academic approach to history will tell you that Shia's in particular have concocted more myths and occult beliefs than anyone else, including prophet like status for their imams and concocted stories about the karbala massacre. So I have labeled them after knowing most things about them. If you are a student you should spend your time on something else and stop wasting your time on "Islamic history" and defending/promoting the shia and other cults.
محترم جناب بہت زبردست وی لاگ ہے میں نیں اسے دبیئ اور دیگر خلیج کے ممالک کے دوستوں کو شیئر کیا
بہت پزیرائی ملی ہے
بلاشبہ نبی کریم صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم سے ایسے رویے کی امید نہیں کی جا سکتی
آپ جس جراتمندی سے یہ کام کرہے ہیں
آپ کو سلام
آپ کا ریگولر فالور
ڈاکٹر اقبال سرور
@MerryAaqaMerymola Eik bahu say shadiyan karnay wala say kuch bhi expect kiya jasakta. Yeh Kainat ka Khuda Bahut crazy demand karta hai Mujhay bus adoption khatam karni hai tho bus Nabi tum apni adopted Betay ki bewi say shaadi Karlo. 😂. Bus yeh meri crazy demands hain 😂 kiya karoon. Ay nabi teray Dil mai kiya hai hum ko pata hai jo tu hum say chupa raha hai 😂.?
Sir mass grave milay gi, agar Saudi Government khudaii ki ijazat to day.
1400 saal baad kuch nhi milne wala unless wo fossilise ho jaye which is impossible. 100 saal baad bhi kuch nhi milta hai.
Yaha Boht saary qabristan ke ooper cities aur Bazar banjaty hy 6:01
150 saal Baad Ibn Ishaq ki likhi book ko reliable nahi Maan rahe hain to fir hadith 250 saal Baad likha gya hai to fir Hadish ko kyon mante ho
Profo Jee, it is pronounced Banu-NaZeer ... not Banu-Nadir ( lost in English translation 😅)
Wonderful insight sir on such a controversial topic. You have impartially expounded this topic. Great to learn from you
تیمور صاحب آپ جیسے تحقیقی کام کرنے والے کو ایک دفعہ علامہ غلام احمد پرویز صاحب کو ضرور پڑھنا چاہیے ، یہ میری آپ سے گزارش ہے
Abdul Malik was son of Marwan who was very close relative of Hazrat Usman and in fact people think Hazrat Usman was assassinated because of his close relation to Marwan. Marwan was Ummvi Khalif after Yazid 11. This is a bit intriguing that Abdul Malik has to ask someone else about life of Prophet Mohammad pbuh.
Please do an episode about when was first coin issued in Islamic state. What kind of coin were used during first four Khalifs and Ummvi regime afterward?
This is the first requirement to establish a state. It will help to understand how early Muslim state evolved
Correct yourself
.. its Bannu Kanuke. Second is not nadir it's Bannu nazeer.
Adam Seeker can explain this and prove him completely false
Btwy Dr. Sb, Banu Qurzeza incident was always strange to me that " why" and "how". Today your video have answers in it...
wonderful ... your lecture cleared my mind regarding this incidence .. I always got disturbed after listening that how our Prophet PBUH can execute such brutal decision.
Ibn Ishaq died in 68 Hijra and Ibn Hisham died in 218 Hijra
Based on this principal that any narration from a member of the family from Sahabi is to elevate the status of the Sahabi and his bloodline, then this will cause chaos even within Islam because you are giving a rule of Rijaal.
This was presented to Rasool SAWW, Jews demanded Saad to be the arbitrator as he was(or use to be) a Jew.
Imam Malik lived from 93 AH to 179 AH, you are rejecting one premise and accepting the other by compromising your own rules.
You gave references to the book and made a video without even reading about this event, Jews demanded arbitrator of their choise and that arbitrator announced the ruling based on what punishment would be from Torah.
Thank you for your feedback.
Should we also try to prove that Muslims didn't kill anyone in any wars? Hope you research also what Muslims were doing at Badr so many miles away from Medina and what lead to the skirmish?
Please must read “Muqaddama or Preface” of Tareekh Tabari in which writer says that this book is just compilation of Rewayats. I have not work on its authenticity I wrote as it is what I learned. The next generation will work on its authenticity. Therefore, it is not a reference book.
अल्लाह इंसाफ और रहम करता है अल्लाह के नबी भी ऐसा ही करते हे आपकी रिसर्च को सलाम
You missed countering Hadith ...You have put down your arms! By Allah, I have not put down my arms yet." Allah's Apostle said, "Where (to go now)?" Gabriel said, "This way," pointing towards the tribe of Bani Quraiza. So Allah's Apostle went out towards them.Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:68
A fascinating perspective that impetus my interest ....meanwhile the Cambridge research paper consolidate it.......maza yaya
Very knowledgeable video
Dr. Asgar Ali Engineer ki book
The Origin and Development of Islam me iski charcha hai.
سید احمد اکبر آبادی صاحب کا مقالہ بھی ڈاکٹر تیمور صاحب کے بعض اعتراضات کی تائید میں ہے۔
عہد نبوئ کے غزوات و سراپا اور انکے مآخذ پر ایک نظر
مصنف: سید احمد اکبر آبادی
Aslamuallaikum Lkn un ki qbryn kidr hyn jb k 800 ya 900 ko dfn k lye ground chahye kya is ko reason bna kr 120 year s مسلمان ko shaheed kya gya lakhon Bosnia and other side pr
Oriental west nahin East hota . Western historians if you want to use the term would be called as Oxidental historians
Banu Qurayza has been under the criticism of Orientalist, however they fail to see the general amnesty at the conquest of Mecca.
@@sharjeeljawaid exactly
@@Taimur_LaalBecause the general amnesty was for their own people. Most of these people had relatives in Mecca who had refused to become Muslims where as Jews were not relatives just foreigners. We have been reading Islam since our birth we are being fed this. We are not doing academic dishonesty.
“Quran: No looting and destruction”
Hahahaha…good joke. Can you prove this by going through the Islamic conquests?
If a ruler wins the war... What does he do?? He gets the bounty of the defeated state which used to occur during those times
@@abc..6533 but they don't start religion and dont call themselve idol to follow and rahmatulle alimin. Hope now its clear
@@janbawaingade303 what u talkin abt man??
U know exactly what i am talking about.
20% to allah and his profit. Sura anfal. Now its sunnat as well as god sanctioned thing. Unlike other kings doing on their own
@@janbawaingade303 Eik bahu say shadiyan karnay wala say kuch bhi expect kiya jasakta. Yeh Kainat ka Khuda Bahut crazy demand karta hai Mujhay bus adoption khatam karni hai tho bus Nabi tum apni adopted Betay ki bewi say shaadi Karlo. 😂. Bus yeh meri crazy demands hain 😂 kiya karoon. Ay nabi teray Dil mai kiya hai hum ko pata hai jo tu hum say chupa raha hai 😂.?
This time your interpretation of the Quranic verses regarding this matter is extremely poor. You can simply check how many people died during the battle of the trench (which were just three from the quresh side). This number doesn't fit well with your interpretation.
Apropos the contention @21:40 that no bearer of burden will bear the burden of another it is not what is meant y Verses 6:164 17:15 and 53:38 which talk of bearing the burden by SOUL (which means justice after death on judgement day) and not by LIVING in the battle ground. Nice Taqiyya though.
This is the first time I am listening to such an event, let aside different viewpoints.
Mr Taimur. I appreciate your honest efforts in this direction. You have put up and interesting argument. However I do believe that once the word is out in the "ether", it's very hard to recall it. And specially given that Quran and Allah clearly has made hatred for Jews bounding on muslims , you are fighting an uphill battle. It would be more appropriate if you would stick to your domain of expertise, which I believe is economics and political science. And don't venture in the world of Islamic history, which clearly is not your topic of expertise. Otherwise you may sound like a muslim apologist. I really like listening to your "other than Islam defending" topics. You seem very knowledgable in those!
@@blue-y3r im just talking about history. And I am relying on the work of other academics. Not my own research.
@@Taimur_Laalyou should stick to your field sir. We admire you for that. Don’t try to do lipstick and make up 😂❤
The man is totally ignorant of the incident
Discussing early islamic history is a waste of time. There are no primary sources available. Dr. Taimur is just trying to use logic based on doubtful sources of information.
This is a very good and well-researched video. Many Muslims, including myself, have always thought that this incident and a few more such things seem inconsistent with the persona of the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) and Islam.👍👍👍👍
There can be questioned raisedd about the numbers and exact details but it is very clear according to the sources that such a incident took place. Also the the Amnesty of Makkah was conditioned by the acceptance of Islam by the Quraysh and those who didn't do so were exiled from Makkah. There isnt even a single incident where the Prophet (pbuh) simply let someone go if they committed a crime because that would undermine the rule of law.