THE MAGNUS ARCHIVES
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2020
- Case ########-8 A Post-Mortem report for reality. Recorded by the Archivist, in Situ.
Content warnings: - Death & mortality - Hypochondria - Potential medical neglect - Cancer - Convulsions - Stabbing - Falling
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"I'm not going to kill a man just because you're jealous." "Why not!"
I love this podcast.
The whole conversation at the beginning is gold.
And the way it was delivered lol
can't believe it took the apocalypse for us to finally get the supernatural romcom we deserved
oliver banks is a good lad imo. but having martin vehemently defend smiting because he's jealous was absolutely golden
To me that was the most unbelievable thing of all seasons lmao
“Not murder, smiting!” Me too, Martin, me too. I can’t stop giggling at the entire beginning oh my god
Never laughed so hard, lmao
Jon: "He woke me up..."
Martin: "Wow, what a hero😒"
LMFAO
This season turned from "Reading weird snd interesting statements" to "Gay Couple on a roadtrip through the lovecraftian post apocalypse. Now with smiting."
I liked the first season the most... but this is still good
It's *really* close between 1 and 5 thus far for me. What got me invested were the statements themselves; the metanarrative was nice at first, but also kind of exhausting by the end of 4. This is fresh, new, delightfully nightmarish, and sided with some lovely banter.
@@toastghost9145 I wholeheartedly agree ✌️
OH YEAH. And it's awesome hahahaha
Damn, the avatar of death appear to be a not-so-bad guy and leaving the only reason to kill him Martin's jealousy.
Love how Martin doesn't have any kind of moral compass anymore and just ask him boyfriend to kill people because he wishes to.
I think that lack of empathy is probably a remnant of the Lonely's effects, on top of existing bias. Martin cares for pretty much no one except for Jon. While that's not healthy under normal circumstances, I guess it's the only real option he's got here.
I think being in the literal apocalypse would break anyone's moral compass and turn it into a roulette wheel
Touches of the Web :-(
I’m his defense they are eldrich horrors that are currently tormenting people and before now had been beating him to a pulp and kidnapping him every 2 seconds
Oliver really said no rights for folks with anxiety huh
Well Jared Hopworth said no rights for people with self esteem issues.
And Nikola said no rights for people with skin.
@@nateds7326 Jared said FULL rights for people with body image issues tho
@@rhodes449Jared said Trans Rights. He gave me top surgery behind a Denny’s
@@rhodes449 Yeah, the right to become a fleshmonster
I love the framing of this episode as an official report. Just business info, reported to the new boss. The coroner knows how things are gonna go, and he's not worried. He's just getting the paperwork in order.
Well and i mean, in the end i feel like thats just how death is, you know? Everyone dies, so it’s just like paperwork or another day in the office.
Why would the avatar of death be scared,
At this point, he’s just doing his job. Because he has to wait until everyone dies. When even the Watcher is below death, because Elias won’t have anything to eat once everyone else is gone, and then Oliver will eat him.
And from a coroner’s perspective, there is indeed a lot of paperwork. The police filings, morticians, families, it’s honestly a lot.
It really is interestingly appropriate doing this corner's report style
I love how you can hear Jon smiling
Literally
Hey uh your comment is on 69 likes and I’m not going to like it
@@yumiendercat3685 your pfp ♡♡♡
@@yumiendercat3685 this is the way
@@noamratner8058 hecc yes my dude
I really like how all the 'statements' of the different domains are in a different style
I love the idea that The End will get everything in the end.
The apocalypse will end just as well as the universe and one day the other 13 Fears will fight for their life just as the humans did before
And when even the other fears are gone, The End will begin to feed upon itself, fearing its own end.
I love this episode so much
@@Axius27 That does assume that the End thinks enough to fear.
@@mimkyodar if a domain gets powerful enough maybe just maybe it could think
@@Axius27No. Without fear to sustain it, it just stops existing.
@@krishadyn5211 Aw, but I like the idea of a lovecraftian entity ripping itself apart to feed its hunger, a violent end to such an omnipresent fear.
No way to prove what would happen, either way. Not without killing all life first.
I love it when death is a very passive and understanding character in stories. Ollie is very chill and nonplussed by people's various reactions to death, and it's calming.
it almost makes me think the end is a good eldritch fear god but then i remember of the book of the dead
Martin is cute when he's jealous 💕
Do you mean *martin is murderous when he gets jealous
Jon Sims wrote this comment
Jon coded
Jon - I'm not gonna kill a man because you're jealous
Martin - Ok ok ok...please 🥺🥺🥺
Hearing Jon laugh In the midst of the horrible awful depression that has been this season almost brought me to tears
The End and Oliver are just so chill compared to the other horrors. Like I keep imagining him in a comfy chair chillin.
I think the Wiki also says that the End is the most passive of all fears hh
@@cupcaketv5673 When you think about it, he wins no matter what so if I were the end I would be passive too lol
@@semiengima Yeah felt haha
The beginning of this episode really said serotonin boost
I love this whole episode, it's the least sad of my favorite episodes.
Jealous Martin is adorably murderous, Jon's laugh adds 5 years to my life, Danika Gelthor is just me (everytime I feel slightly dizzy or something hurts I just accept that I'm about to die), I like her, I like The End, it's such a natural thing for everything to end...
I'm sure that if I were to be an avatar I'd be an avatar of Death
the end: sees a hypochondriac
*it's free real estate*
omg yea also jsdfh i feel u and Danika too
@@f_mva How dare you call me out lmao
i am also Danika lmao but without most of the actual problems (as far as i know *skull emoji*) so this episode felt as if it was directly aimed at me
"Alright, you- vomit your horrors."
"I don't- I'm not sure I like that metaphor."
"Puke your terrors?"
Yes I know people have said it already but god I love Martin lmao
I love how Gertrude’s hypothesis is still technically true. Even when they all came through, it will not last forever. It is not eternal like they wanted it to be. Their great desire to rule over earth forever will never be fulfilled because they will destroy themselves trying to. It will never work! They actually sort of fucked themselves over in doing this because their supply will run dry. They were simply too ravenous. It’s quite hilarious when you think about it actually.
I mean, lets face it, this was Jonah's terrible plan. To assume the Fears want anything is a human perspective, as Simon stated.
kinda uroborosy
@@mariamatedei I like that phrase very much lol
Sorta like humans. You are what you eat afterall.
I know we dropped the theatre kid jokes, but John really acted his heart out during the statement, huh? The contrast between his voice and his impression of Oliver's caught me off guard every time.
@Is me ? he's going back to his roots(the mechanisms)
Okay but Oliver kinda is a chill domain leader. He's perfe tly neutral, knows what he is and what he's doing and while the fear of his victims feeds him, he knows it's not about him in the end. This statement is like a courtesy letter to Jon, acknowledging his presence but not threatening him.
this is why I would 100% pick the end to serve, if I had any real choice in the matter. not hurting people out of malice, just… being
I'm rereading the transcript now, and - oh my god! Martin is apparently reluctant to 'go for a walk' because he doesn't want to leave Jon _alone_ in the domain of this suspiciously irresistible dude that convinced Jon to wake up once, and left such a lasting impression on his bf that Jon doesn't even want to kill bill him now! I suspect Martin even mangles the name of the domain on purpose, because it's _that man's_ domain. 'What'd you call it again, Jon? Rotten Core? Stinky Path? Unattractive Man's Slums? It's a very unimpressive place btw, I don't like it one bit.' And right after the whole Oliver _waiting_ (for Jon??) thing comes up, Martin immediately starts insisting on smiting, I love this
I didn't know what "smitting" meant (not native speaker) and woah.
We have no world in my language but that's basicly being killed by a God!? It fits but the implication of John being the equivalent of a God down there rocks!
Smiting is usually used to describe a justified murder of something evil and usually not human or an enemy. You can smite a zombie, you can smite a foe, ect. It’s usually used in holy or religious contexts
It's also often used jokingly to describe being struck by lightning.
Oh... OOOHHH
Thanks for the explanation guys, my translator just handled me two czech equivalents to "strike" or "hit" without further illumination & I didn't even think twice about it lmao
@@minuspi8372 Or being hopelessly in love
I've barely started this episode and... whatever fear-inducing stuff comes for the rest of it, Martin's jealousy at the beginning and trying to talk Jon into smiting Oliver as a result is really funny and cute. Gotta find the relationship highs wherever you can in the apocalypse I guess. XD
Jealous!Martin got me in a chokehold 😭😳 HES SO CUTE HE REMINDS ME OF A DUCK WITH A KNIFE 🥰
Definitely not the intention, but this episode is really comforting to me as a person with severe health anxiety. Listening to it during a late at night attack helped a lot, felt a lot less alone lmao 🤷♂️
Just gonna reply to myself every time I'm having a bad anxiety night and come back lmao
@@leechisscreaming9737 I found it very comforting too, but in a different way, knowing even if Jon and Martin fail it will end eventually.
I'll need to take note of that, using this episode as a form of comfort. At some point during 2020 my one off passing-out scare turned into full on health anxiety, including worries about multiple of Danika's issues like low blood pressure and heartburn.
Guess who's back, back again, anxiety is back, and it seems I've got friends. Lol I didn't expect others to reply to this but it's nice knowing I'm not alone!
Damn it's been awhile. Anyway I feel like I'm going to die tonight idk why panicking makes me forget I have meds for this exact reason asfsdfsfaf @ me stop waiting to take them until 4 am
I'm eating as I listen to this and I'm trying so hard not to choke during the beginning 😂😂😂
I was drinking tea and nearly died when I said “awww” mid sip
I never expected the Terrorpocalypse to be the most lighthearted season, but here we are.
Man I love their little relationship squabble in this episode. Very cute.
Martin is me 🤣🤣🤣 that jealousy hit hard . Like you are my man and some stranger of the street wakes you up.wtf bae I'm the special one not him 🤣🤣 I would have went off
As someone with an acute fear of death I found this episode absolutely terrifying
same i was holding back tears
Damn this episode is so close to home. Being hypochondriac and trying to live and get my goals done before some shitty disease cuts me down in an instant is annoying but you just gotta press on!!!!!!!!1!!1!
but always keep in mind that you cannot escape the snail of the end
To be honest? I found this bit positively uplifting.
Yes, I've never felt any fear from oblivion. To all those wretched creatues trapped in the Changed world, the thought of Death as an ensured end to their brutal torments & constant suffering is really comforting.
Buddha would approve, I think.
Wow jeez that was a rough episode to get through with the death anxiety, but at least jealous, gently bitchy Martin was at the start as some buffer, bless him 🙏
*slaps episode* this bad boy can fit so much serotonin in it
I don't think I'm ready to finish this (my heart is aching so strangely), so I'm going to go back to Episode 1 and relisten. Every single episode is so richly crafted, and I want to take them in better. I'm not ready for this to end. My gosh to make something this good. I'm so happy TMA exists.
I feel that in my soul
Honestly, this one still gets me. The idea of a random, unforeseen death with no time to mentally prepare myself sounds far worse than being stabbed or suffocated or burned alive. At least then I'd have the comfort of knowing, but a random health complication? THAT is real terror.
the thing i love about the End is that no matter the manner of death, the scary part is to die. MAG 70 portraits it perfectly
It is interesting how much the avatar of The End parallels and contrast with the Watcher.
Fear of seeing contrasting fear of being watched.
The End's avatar role is to see, not to watch, because death is inevitable and no action is needed of him. He can act of course, he can help things along. But he doesn't need to. Neither does he need to watch with intent as The Eye does: there is no need to catalogue, examine, study and archive death, it simply happnes around us and forces us to see it. And that is mostly what the fear of death his about: seeing death happen around us, seeing our own death, without any chance to do anything. No point in acting, no point in watching, no point in denying, no point in averting the eyes, no point in musing, no point in celebrating, no point in escaping, no point in hiding in delusions, no point in hoping. We do those things of course, but when we fool ourselves that it helped, that we did managed to do something, to stave the curse, Death is not mocked: it was simply not yet meant to be and it still is inevitable. The fool that believed he was stealing other people's lives... Did he really? Or maybe it was just a ruse from the End. Maybe it was their time to die, not his. Maybe it was just his time to fear an end that will just come later anyway.
By taking action we stoke the fear of death.
And that is why it's avatar is so passive. He knows, he understands, he accepts. And he fears not the watcher because he knows that seeing is, in the end, both inevitable and sufficient.
Watching attentively doesn't change anything, for there has never been anything to change.
Damn... I wish I had something intellectual to say to this but I feel like you pretty much hit the nail on the head XD
Wait now that I think about it... is this episode foreshadowing something?
Is The End a way to stop the The Eye? Accepting that there is nothing left to watch or to know. To seek out.
Omg that might be it.... I think.
Wait dont tell me that the last spiodse is gonna be something like: "this is my final statement" as a way to end it all.
Im gonna come back here when I get there. I'm really hoping I'm wrong. XDD
ah yes, finally, i have found it, the episode that hit Way Too Close To Home
Everyone has one. (I love reading these comments)
@@mimkyodar i See you are feeling the Eye.
I kept waiting for it and wow do I wish I was still waiting lmao
AGHHH IM GONNA CRY THEY'RE SO CUTE
Martin KillBill Blackwood My Beloved
man i adore these brief moments of respite from the apocalypse in the form of jonmartin banter
The beginning of this episode is so funny, I love it! Also, it's really interesting seeing how diffrent the "statements" of each domain are phrased
People often make funs of hypochondriacs but don’t know how awful it is
Jon: He woke me up.
Martin: Wow. What a hero. >:(
Oliver is just a chill dude
Martin getting jealous was adorable.
Jon’s fond chuckle was SO good. The voice acting is incredible. You can hear the fondness and love in his voice. It’s MWAH chefs kiss.
I really feel like Oliver is just not that bad?? Like he’s not doing anything wrong per say?? Kinda like Hades, he doesn’t kill people, just organises those who are dying? The Death entity in general just seems fairly neutral
Martin is turning a little "Slaughtery" or "Hunty". We haven't gotten to the Hunt's domain, yet.
If you think about it - the statement Oliver Banks gave to Jon in the coma was exactly what Jon needed to heal enough to come out of the coma.
Chills, every single time
"Look Martin I'm not going to kill a man just because you're jealous"
"Why not?!?! >:( "
"Vomit your terrors" - that sounds a lot like (real) Jon calling himself out a bit.
Jon and Martin are so cute in this episode and I love it
I've been binge listening to this whole podcast for about two weeks now, and I haven't commented much, but fuck do I need to say something on this one.
I have this thing you see, this- guilty pleasure, when I read fanfiction for any fandom, or when I consume any piece of media in general. I go *apeshit* when everytime, in a couple (our soon-to-be-couple, or could-be-couple, you get the idea), one of the people involved are jealous. Literally my favorite tag on AO3; if a story has it, I WILL most likely read it/watch it/ listen to it and I will LIKE it.
I know, I know, it's not the healthiest of tropes in a relationship by far, but like I said, guilty pleasure.
Thing is, I never did expect this podcast to ever actually use this trope at any given time, much less with it's main characters, so I was absolutely thrilled through the entire start of this episode.
So yeah, that's it. I am delighted that my favorite trope ever was used here
The part about the panic attack and the stroke, that hits close to me. It was what I thought too when I had mi first panic attack xD
I thought I was dying. It was scary.
The end truly is the most powerful of the entities. It’s inevitable even for the other fears, and ultimately all the other fears depend on the fear of death to be scary. All the other fears rely on their victims fearing harm which is in the end a fear of death
Not really. People with Arachnophobia dont fear spiders because they can kill them, they just irrationally fear spiders
And it turns out that nothingness and the thought that nothing matters is a strangely comforting one
Yeah ! Death is also what gives meaning to life for me... Knowing that it ends
The fact that Martin is *jealous* of the Avatar of the End amidst their casual smiting walk through Ravenloft is killing me!!! 😂😂😂
This episode makes me very curios how this will all end (pun intended)
lmao martin doing puppy dog eyes at jon to kill someone
Hi Alex!
First, the exchange between Jon and Martin might be one of the best moments of this show. Second, as a hypochondriac, this statement fucked my up and kicked me when i was down but i love the way Oliver thinks
i finally found the episode that freaks me the fuck out! while listening to the description of her blood clot i kept shaking my legs and i had to take a few breaks to calm down. meds im taking increase my risk of forming blood clots, so this ep was Very Spooky to listen to
The end is pleased with your offering
The start.. so light and funny.. I'm so happy about those two t_t
I've listened to this ep a couple of times now and jealous Martin still makes me giggle. "Not murder... Smiting!"
Martin- Do it, smite him.
Oliver, leaning against a corpse root, unconcerned- Yeah go ahead, I'm okay with that.
i wonder if the end delights in like. small scale endings as well? the end of a relationship, connections, non-human lives? the end of certain eras? cause i mean if so that would be kinda dope- tho i suppose it has to do with the fear of the end and not just the actual ending right? hmm.
I dunno if animals fears of death would = the end or the slaughter/hunt (maybe depends on how they’re dying?) but human fears of animals we love dying? Feels like it would feed the end IMO
This is a rather interesting report...and it fits The End so well...and it is also basically a report to Jon saying this is all unsustainable
Oh my gosh, this whole opening convo was hilarious. The serotonin😂❤
Martin and John are adorable here, it’s too much.
martin raises a compelling point: why not?
Me, a being full of anxiety, hypochondria, whose worst nightmares is to die of cancer, or of a disease I didn't recognize fast enough, or WORST of something that I would ignore because I'm too sacred to pound a false alarm again and who often cry when people tell me I will destroy my health by worrying too much :
Aaaaaah yes, finally MY episode is here.
John: “I’m not gonna kill a man just because you’re jealous.”
Martin: “Why not Ò^Ó??”
Im calling it now, they use the rift in reality at Hill Top Road to go back in time and fix things, at great cost to themselves
Oooooh! I like this theory! Maybe that's how Annabel Cane can help... The Web did like the world as it was...
The beginning part was adorable! I love how you could hear Jon smiling while "accusing" Martin
The End is the best entity. I love how wise it sounds, kind of peaceful even.
I can’t believe the season narrating of the world brought on by everything I was terrified of throughout this podcast ended up being the most wholesome and least scary. The first segment of this episode was pure gold, jonmartin has my entire heart at its mercy.
Additionally, I don’t fear what Oliver Banks describes. If anything, it gives me hope: even if our heroes should fail, there is repose in knowing that the suffering in this Hell cannot be eternal. The end of everything as described by the End’s avatar isn’t a joyful one, but it is a promise of rest. The End also means the end of suffering, and I am glad for that.
All around, this episode was a resilient ray of sunshine among the all-enveloping twilight of apocalypse.
Yeah, it really was. I think a large part of the horror of the other domains so far- like the Buried, the Slaughter and the Stranger, is that there isn't even the possibility of death as an end to your suffering- you just get crushed by a tank, or the earth, and then have to keep going on. I found it so hopeful that Oliver was like 'gonna be coming for you guys eventually, hang in there !'
Lol, oh, its you again ^^ *waves in binge-watching !
@@kehlcassidy9562 wow, you’re binging it faster than I did! Soon (if not already) you’ll have to wait a week for every tmagp episode like the rest of us 😔✌️ (it’s been hard but, as someone who also listened to tma when it was all out already, the active theorising in the fandom space is pretty cool).
pls the way martin says ‘pleeease’ is so cuuuuute 🤭
I love jealous Martin.
Okay this one was.. a little too accurate of like suicidal ideation lol
Also now that I think about it....I honestly think Oliver Banks is the only real Avatar of the end in the entire series and that the real victims in every episode of The End were the killers and monster the people who died but feared death so much they bargained and turned into monsters who fed the end their own fear snd not the other way around...I mean The End is the most passive of the entities and every monster from it was rather active as opposed to Oliver Banks
Oliver and Fairchild are the most chill avatars but the End is really the best master if you had to choose. Death is natural and unavoidable so no point in fearing it. In a world like that, the End seems the most peaceful.
It's so nice to hear Jon smiling and laughing so much. Martin is really the cutest T_T How ironic that in the mids of the End of the World, they're the happiest they've ever been because they're together 🥺
I love how Martin would kill, or let Jon kill, a man because he's jealous, and the fact you can hear Jon smiling is so damning cute
Idk why I found it so funny that there was an ad before this episode and it started with the words "make a statement-"
Such a great episode. Oliver Banks is an avatar I honestly wouldn't mind befriending.
Oh my goodness A jealous Martin is spotted in the wild
God whoever said that if you have a fear MAG would cover it was so right. What a niche way to get me right in the last season
“He’s probably a KiNd BeNeVoLeNt RuLeR oF a HeLlIsH fEaR pRiSoN”
Hearing jon and Martin content adds a kabillion years to my life 😂😂😂
Martin being a little JELLY bean gives me life
That report was surprisingly comforting
Victims of The End: "pls no i don't wanna go"
Me: 🎵I JUST WANNA DIE DIE DIE
DIE DIE DIE
IT'S MUFFIN TIME
I JUST WANNA DIE DIE DIE🎵
This one hits WAYYYYY too close to home
Honestly after watching the whole series several times, I have come to the conclusion that The End is the least… evil? It’s still scary, but The End is passive, mostly. Of all the statements and stories we’ve heard, the real crime is when a soul is robbed of death.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that The End is awesome as a fear, as the true fear is the lack of that final peace
They all blame Jon for this happening, but each fear put their mark on him. They are to blame as mush as him. Especially Oliver.
I honestly find this ep pretty relaxing soothing even
*Me:* Wow I love how Death can be a passive fear. It doesn't *need* to do anything. It's always looming, always inevitable even for those who don't fear it. We'll all end up there, and there's enough inherent passive cruelty involved that the End needn't lift a finger if it doesn't desire to.
*Also me:* losing my shit over Martin being jealous of the literal avatar of death.
I really really like Olliver