Fun fact: the polish translations call Ashfur Treefur since they chose to interpret it as an Ash tree. However shadowclan Ashfur is translated as Ashfur as in fire ash
In the German Translation, both are translated as fire ash but have different suffixes. Ashfur from ShadowClan is Aschenfell and Ashfur from ThunderClan Aschenpelz.
Everybody says that Ashfur (TC) passed his trial by a whisker, but has anybody stopped to consider the fact that StarClan got him mixed up with Ashfur (ShC) and StarClan just made the “loved too much” excuse to cover it up?
“Uh-oh, I think we let the wrong cat into StarClan!” “Can’t we tell him to leave?” “Nah, look, he’s chill now.” “Yeah, let’s just make up a reason he can stay.”
i just find it so funny how there's just some random obscure shadowclan elder with the exact same name as a huge villain character several years later, one that's completely unrelated to shadowclan ashfur.
When people say they like the old ashfur, I always assumed they met ashfur before he went insane, but perhaps they were actually talking about Shadowclan's ashfur, but I doubt it.
2:55 Can relate, I liked Firefern, Leafstar's daughter but she dies before she even gets to the lake. I feel like its a shame she didn't live as it would have been interesting for the other clans to react to her name being referred to Firestar especially with Nightheart.
Can you please please talk about Honeyfern? I've always loved her more beyond her actions of saving Briarkit. Especially the scene where she came from StarClan to save Poppyfrost. I imagine them as closer siblings.
I feel like Eeltail might be a good one for microscopic talking. Shes one of the 3 cats (Appledusk and Splashfoot) who saved Mapleshade from the river and got her kits bodies. I see a lot of shipping content with eeltail and mapleshade which i assume is because she had pity for her after loosing her kits. I think its very silly that Eeltail gets so much more attention then Splashfpot cause she said "sorry your kids are dead" and nothing else lol. It's also a bit funny that there are only 3 cats with the eel prefix in the whole series and 2 of them are named eeltail and one didn't even get a warrior name (eelkit)
I watched a lot of AMVs before reading the books so I knew there was a character named Ashfur and I knew about the fire scene. I didn't know the full context but I had been able to parse some kind of an idea of what was going on. So when I finally picked up Into the Wild and saw that ShadowClan had an elder named Ashfur, I assumed it was the Ashfur from all the AMVs and that the next arc would in fact be a prequel and tell about this background old man's past crimes and how he apparently got away with them. I thought "Oh, every arc will focus on a different Clan!". Cue my disappointment and confusion when arc 2 started by following Brambleclaw and not a younger ShadowClan Ashfur.
The weird little rumors that pop up around minor characters in this series are always so interesting. Anyway I'm headcanoning that Ashfur & Ashheart are the same character & he changed his name when he transitioned. Suggestion for extremely (EXTREMELY) minor character to replace Ashfur - Raincloud from the story "Darkstar's Law" from code of the clans. She was Skyclan's deputy, and according to the story she spoke out against her leader which led to the "leader's word is law" being added to the warrior code. It's a story which always stuck with me, esp since it never got followed up on as far as i know (it might've been retconned. I have no idea).
I think a talking video on Mousewhisker would be pretty neat. He had that weird little flirtation with that Riverclan cat on top of actually surviving a little longer than most other background characters. He’d be cool to see a talking video on ^^
Rereading the books, I can confirm, there is a ShadowClan Ashfur who helps Yellowfang, Graypaw and Firepaw chase Brokenstar out and rescue the babies. And he's cool for it 👍
For the Favorite character bit: My favorite character is foxleap. I dont really see anyone talk about him but idk i love his big bro energy with Icecloud + his little: i wanna be called Foxcatcher/hunter bit is goated.
You should do a mini-talking on Redwillow. He was one of the Dark Forest apprentices and sided with the Dark Forest in the Last Hope. He was killed by Blackstar and swore revenge on the clans. Later he appeared in The Broken Code and was double killed
My designated background character that I like for no reason is Falling Feather from Dawn of the Clans. I don’t remember her doing all that much aside from being thought of as a good swimmer and the kinda talked about moment where she and her brother kill each other, but I always liked her name and contrasting design with her brother that lots of artist in the fandom have drawn. I’d think it’d be cool to talk about more dawn of the clans characters in general!
@@prageruwu69That actually makes me wonder what made them give him that name. Maybe he looked like the sun when swooping down from the trees, hence sunfall?
Honeytail from SkyClan should be in your micro talk. She is a permaqueen who never had kits of her own which is unique iirc, every other permaqueen to my knowledge has become a permaqueen after having babies. And then she dies to a raccoon. That’s it, that’s all she ever did in her life. I love her and I think I’m one of five people on the planet who even knows who she is let alone love her.
With the Bluestar old people names thing I hc that the elders asked to be named like that, as like a way of pride over their battle scars to show they retired after serving their clan well or smth
I think Clear Sky would be a good choice for a Talking/Mini-Talking episode. I haven't read all the Dawn Of The Clans books yet, but I think it would be cool
For the "microscopic talking" video, how about Cloudpelt? i always found it interesting that Yellowfang saved his life twice, once when he was a kit and when he was an adult. He was also Raggedstar's apprentice and later deputy!
i for one like the headcanon that ashheart came out as transmasc and changed his name to ashfur then immediately retired. i imagine once tc ashfur started being evil you just see sc ashfur cringing in starclan like "i knew i should have went with pelt"
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I'm thinking that Shadowclan Ashfur and Thunderclan Ashfur should team up and make the most confusing story arc ever (Although Thunderclan Ashfur is obviously double dead). "Ashfur is coming to attack the kittens and Ashfur is going to be a distraction" "What if we fight Ashfur off using this technique?" "WHICH ONE?!?" "Ashfur mousebrain"
I often think of ShadowClan Ashfur. While on the topic: At some point I downloaded WildCraft (I'm pretty sure- it was the one with wolves) and I had only read Into the Wild so I named my character Ashfur, after him, because it's a nice name. That gave me the idea later on that he was a much more important character than he actually was. Eventually I started reading the books again and I realized he was a minor character but he's always felt like a special character to me.
I don't exactly know if he has THAT little to say about him to fit in a microscopic talking, but I'd like something about Ripplestar. He doesn't really have much content about him, considering he was the reason for one of the rules of the warrior code.
I consistently forget about ShadowClan Ashfur! Boy the prequel shadowclan timeline is all kinds of messed up, huh. Anyways you should talk about SkyClan cat Egg in microscopic talkings I forgot all about him until I reread Skyclan's Destiny a few weeks ago and it is hilarious that he simply disappeared into the ether
I mean, in fairness to the 'he's still alive' conspiracy theory, Mistystar was alive in Into the Wild as well, and she only just recently died. I know he was already an elder, but when has Warriors ever been consistent in that kind of thing? I can't blame younger readers for thinking he's still kicking around somewhere
I know it’s not a talking but I’d love to suggest mousewhisker to talk about! He’s got a cute name and he’s been around since power of three so there’s a lot there but he kinda fades to the background
You should do a talking video about dovewing / birchfeather in modern day sc!! I love dovewing, but seeing her character be so mischaracterized in the elders quest is so confusing . She says she will show birchfeather “tough love” even though she herself left her own clan too.
moonkitti!! i would love a gorsepaw(windclan kit firestar brought home) video if you ever make one!!! i wouldn't mind if he was in a mini talking or micro talking, I'd just love to see him talked about!
Have you ever considered making a talking about scourge?(or have you done that already) I remember him being my favorite as I was quite the edgy preteen and he’s the only character I explicitly remember liking from my warrior cats phase
I think ashfur (shadowclan) should be ashheart just because I think we need more plausibly transgender characters made through editing accidents. it makes me feel seen
This is entirely unrelated to the video, but I’ve been really trying to find one of moonkittis videos. Maybe jayfeather or crowfeather (I’m really not sure), says breezepelt all drawn out like burreeeezepelt. It popped into my mind and now I can’t find it.
Fun fact: the polish translations call Ashfur Treefur since they chose to interpret it as an Ash tree. However shadowclan Ashfur is translated as Ashfur as in fire ash
The finnish translation also translates to the tree, however, with the both of them
Very cool
Oh, and then cinder is usually translated as in fire ash, for example with cinderfur in finnish.
In the German Translation, both are translated as fire ash but have different suffixes. Ashfur from ShadowClan is Aschenfell and Ashfur from ThunderClan Aschenpelz.
He's not "Treefur" in the Polish books 😭 He is "Jesionowe Futro" which means still Ashfur but it means Ash tree not ashes.
Everybody says that Ashfur (TC) passed his trial by a whisker, but has anybody stopped to consider the fact that StarClan got him mixed up with Ashfur (ShC) and StarClan just made the “loved too much” excuse to cover it up?
“Uh-oh, I think we let the wrong cat into StarClan!”
“Can’t we tell him to leave?”
“Nah, look, he’s chill now.”
“Yeah, let’s just make up a reason he can stay.”
this is the only valid logic
Real unemployment is clicking off of a different moonkitti video to watch the new one
daily moonkitti fan life 🤭
REAL
You don't know how true that is lol. I just graduated and haven't been able to find a job (because USA) and have been binge watching these.
Straight up facts. Just got a new job, and i rewatched so many of her videos in the months between
i just find it so funny how there's just some random obscure shadowclan elder with the exact same name as a huge villain character several years later, one that's completely unrelated to shadowclan ashfur.
It's the common naming problem with Warrior Cats.
Ashfur is the warrior cats equivalent of John Smith
@@Cinemamuffin Nah, Robinwing is more so the equivalent, as *FOUR SEPERATE CATS FROM DIFFERENT CLANS* shared that name
When people say they like the old ashfur, I always assumed they met ashfur before he went insane, but perhaps they were actually talking about Shadowclan's ashfur, but I doubt it.
Think it depends on the person
I do. I do enjoy when you leave in the meowing. Thank you.
The kitty cameos are just too enjoyable to pass up
2:55 Can relate, I liked Firefern, Leafstar's daughter but she dies before she even gets to the lake. I feel like its a shame she didn't live as it would have been interesting for the other clans to react to her name being referred to Firestar especially with Nightheart.
adding “you’ve gotten boy. you’re ashfur now.” to my vocabulary now
Can you please please talk about Honeyfern? I've always loved her more beyond her actions of saving Briarkit. Especially the scene where she came from StarClan to save Poppyfrost. I imagine them as closer siblings.
Yes! HONEYFERN!
YEEEHHHSSHSHHHH
being a shadowclan ashfur stan was my favorite bit back on the official wc forums
“Ashfur and Ashheart are two different genders, but so are Rowanclaw and Rowanclaw”
Trans Ashfur(SC) confirmed?!
I feel like Eeltail might be a good one for microscopic talking. Shes one of the 3 cats (Appledusk and Splashfoot) who saved Mapleshade from the river and got her kits bodies. I see a lot of shipping content with eeltail and mapleshade which i assume is because she had pity for her after loosing her kits. I think its very silly that Eeltail gets so much more attention then Splashfpot cause she said "sorry your kids are dead" and nothing else lol. It's also a bit funny that there are only 3 cats with the eel prefix in the whole series and 2 of them are named eeltail and one didn't even get a warrior name (eelkit)
Can confirm, I do like it when you leave in the meowing
I watched a lot of AMVs before reading the books so I knew there was a character named Ashfur and I knew about the fire scene. I didn't know the full context but I had been able to parse some kind of an idea of what was going on. So when I finally picked up Into the Wild and saw that ShadowClan had an elder named Ashfur, I assumed it was the Ashfur from all the AMVs and that the next arc would in fact be a prequel and tell about this background old man's past crimes and how he apparently got away with them. I thought "Oh, every arc will focus on a different Clan!". Cue my disappointment and confusion when arc 2 started by following Brambleclaw and not a younger ShadowClan Ashfur.
That's actually a really cool idea if it wasn't so absurd haha.
I support old man trans Ashfur
The weird little rumors that pop up around minor characters in this series are always so interesting. Anyway I'm headcanoning that Ashfur & Ashheart are the same character & he changed his name when he transitioned.
Suggestion for extremely (EXTREMELY) minor character to replace Ashfur - Raincloud from the story "Darkstar's Law" from code of the clans. She was Skyclan's deputy, and according to the story she spoke out against her leader which led to the "leader's word is law" being added to the warrior code. It's a story which always stuck with me, esp since it never got followed up on as far as i know (it might've been retconned. I have no idea).
I think a talking video on Mousewhisker would be pretty neat. He had that weird little flirtation with that Riverclan cat on top of actually surviving a little longer than most other background characters. He’d be cool to see a talking video on ^^
he is the last of daisy's kits
Rereading the books, I can confirm, there is a ShadowClan Ashfur who helps Yellowfang, Graypaw and Firepaw chase Brokenstar out and rescue the babies.
And he's cool for it 👍
*Clicks on video wanting to talk about Ashfur:*
"The ShadowClan one."
"THE WHAT?!"
I’m punching my wall right now bro
Shadowclan ashfur is actually just a hallucination made for exposition
My friend and I were writing a Warrior cats fanfic and I suggested changing his name to Ashpelt for his own good.
Me and my sister are writing a rewrite and we also changed his name lol
For the Favorite character bit: My favorite character is foxleap. I dont really see anyone talk about him but idk i love his big bro energy with Icecloud + his little: i wanna be called Foxcatcher/hunter bit is goated.
FINALLY SOMEONE REMEMBERS FOXLEAP OMGG
I love foxleap and icecloud ❤️❤️❤️
You should do a mini-talking on Redwillow. He was one of the Dark Forest apprentices and sided with the Dark Forest in the Last Hope. He was killed by Blackstar and swore revenge on the clans. Later he appeared in The Broken Code and was double killed
My designated background character that I like for no reason is Falling Feather from Dawn of the Clans. I don’t remember her doing all that much aside from being thought of as a good swimmer and the kinda talked about moment where she and her brother kill each other, but I always liked her name and contrasting design with her brother that lots of artist in the fandom have drawn. I’d think it’d be cool to talk about more dawn of the clans characters in general!
5:37 _Ashpaw was in fact supposed to be high._ Catnip drugs are now finally canon! :D
What about Sunstar He's very interesting in a sense that he acted more like a father figure to bluestar Then stormtail himself
sunstar had the coolest warrior name and just for that i wish he hadn't become leader 💀 sunfall just sounds so badass
@@prageruwu69That actually makes me wonder what made them give him that name. Maybe he looked like the sun when swooping down from the trees, hence sunfall?
Honeytail from SkyClan should be in your micro talk. She is a permaqueen who never had kits of her own which is unique iirc, every other permaqueen to my knowledge has become a permaqueen after having babies. And then she dies to a raccoon. That’s it, that’s all she ever did in her life. I love her and I think I’m one of five people on the planet who even knows who she is let alone love her.
That actually is really interesting to have a queen who never has kits! I never noticed that :)
i like old man cats. Purdy, Halftail, ShadowClan Ashfur
yellowfang is an honorary old man because she has that energy
@ yes this. Exactly this.
congrats to ashfur on his transition
With the Bluestar old people names thing I hc that the elders asked to be named like that, as like a way of pride over their battle scars to show they retired after serving their clan well or smth
A microscopic talking could be on Gorsekit/paw of Windclan, i don't know much about him cuz i think there's not much to know about him lol
He has two siblings that died as kits (that might be Missing kits canon tho) and that’s uhhhh all
Is he the one who dies tragically or was that someone else I havnt picked up a non graphic novel warriors book in years
@@Feezee223 Yeah when Fireheart and Graystripe bring WindClan back he helps carry him as a kit then in book 5 tigerstar kills him
Yeah I know that but I don't think there's much about him
@Olivia-g6z I was just wondering because it's been awhile and I forget who some characters are
Mt conspiracy theory is the Vicky or Kate made Ashfur Cinderfur in Fire and Ice
That would actually make a lot of sense
I think Clear Sky would be a good choice for a Talking/Mini-Talking episode.
I haven't read all the Dawn Of The Clans books yet, but I think it would be cool
Yes, Ash fur used to meow. Good reminder, real-life kitty cat.
For the "microscopic talking" video, how about Cloudpelt? i always found it interesting that Yellowfang saved his life twice, once when he was a kit and when he was an adult. He was also Raggedstar's apprentice and later deputy!
I briefly remember this guy- wait no I'm thinking of Ashfoot never heard of him in my life 😅
Ah yes, the cooler Ashfur
i for one like the headcanon that ashheart came out as transmasc and changed his name to ashfur then immediately retired. i imagine once tc ashfur started being evil you just see sc ashfur cringing in starclan like "i knew i should have went with pelt"
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Don’t put yourself down! I think your english is really good!
Whenever I looked at the thumbnail I was like: “Hell no, he did a LOT of things wrong!” But then I noticed it was the other one LOL
Poor Ashfur the only crime he commited was being named 😭😭
I'm thinking that Shadowclan Ashfur and Thunderclan Ashfur should team up and make the most confusing story arc ever (Although Thunderclan Ashfur is obviously double dead).
"Ashfur is coming to attack the kittens and Ashfur is going to be a distraction"
"What if we fight Ashfur off using this technique?"
"WHICH ONE?!?"
"Ashfur mousebrain"
Can you do a mini talking of Needletail next? I really like her personality and want to know your opinion about her!!!
the shadow clan one 💀
As I kid who read PoT before TPB, I was EXTRA confused about Shadowclan Ashfur haha
Trans ShadowClan Ashfur is a very cute idea. I shall add this to my list of headcanons.
I often think of ShadowClan Ashfur. While on the topic: At some point I downloaded WildCraft (I'm pretty sure- it was the one with wolves) and I had only read Into the Wild so I named my character Ashfur, after him, because it's a nice name. That gave me the idea later on that he was a much more important character than he actually was. Eventually I started reading the books again and I realized he was a minor character but he's always felt like a special character to me.
Yes Moonkitti. We like your clickbait thumbnail :)
I haven't read these books since my sophomore year of high school I just like eating while listening to people talk about Game of Thrones But Cats
"you've gotten boy" made me giggle
I don't exactly know if he has THAT little to say about him to fit in a microscopic talking, but I'd like something about Ripplestar. He doesn't really have much content about him, considering he was the reason for one of the rules of the warrior code.
I consistently forget about ShadowClan Ashfur! Boy the prequel shadowclan timeline is all kinds of messed up, huh. Anyways you should talk about SkyClan cat Egg in microscopic talkings I forgot all about him until I reread Skyclan's Destiny a few weeks ago and it is hilarious that he simply disappeared into the ether
I mean, in fairness to the 'he's still alive' conspiracy theory, Mistystar was alive in Into the Wild as well, and she only just recently died. I know he was already an elder, but when has Warriors ever been consistent in that kind of thing? I can't blame younger readers for thinking he's still kicking around somewhere
Admit it, Moonkitti, you made this video just so you could make that thumbnail
So I now have a had canon that Ashheart came out as trans and wanted to change their name to Ashfur... THAT'S IT NO ONE CAN CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE
I know it’s not a talking but I’d love to suggest mousewhisker to talk about! He’s got a cute name and he’s been around since power of three so there’s a lot there but he kinda fades to the background
YES WE GOT A ASHFUR TALK IT BEEN TOO LONG
Y’know, the thumbnail reminded me of the, Vriska did nothing wrong from homestuck
video 2 of asking moon for a tawnypelt video because i had a dream about cats once
I get all the ash cats confused when re-reading books
Yayy!! We survived another week!
Id have to say one of my favourite characters is Shimmerpelt from Crookedstars Promise.
6:30 transmasc ashfur?? 👀
4:47 the elders reappear 😂
You should do a talking video about dovewing / birchfeather in modern day sc!! I love dovewing, but seeing her character be so mischaracterized in the elders quest is so confusing . She says she will show birchfeather “tough love” even though she herself left her own clan too.
What about Fuzzball? I think he’s really funny, and his friendship (kinda) with jayfeather is cute.
moonkitti!! i would love a gorsepaw(windclan kit firestar brought home) video if you ever make one!!! i wouldn't mind if he was in a mini talking or micro talking, I'd just love to see him talked about!
I would really love to see a mini-talk on Cody!! I love her, I wish she showed up again after TNP
I think Fallowfern would be a good cat for microscopic-talking, if she isn’t in there already!
Since Ashfur I isn't confirmed to be dead, what if he's immortal like Rock? =P
Have you ever considered making a talking about scourge?(or have you done that already) I remember him being my favorite as I was quite the edgy preteen and he’s the only character I explicitly remember liking from my warrior cats phase
talk about breezepelt for a huggie
that's literally one of the ones she refuses to make a video about
@@sapphanimateswell
I’ll keep trying
7:14 “But so are RowanCalw and RownClaw” TADA!!!! 🎉 😂
Me: "Oh talking about Ashfur! (Yay!)"
Also me: "... Shadowclan... Ashfur?... (Who's that?)"
Archeye. Archeye.
Archeye.
I knew it wasn't thunderclan Ashfur the moment I realized... Shadowclan Ashfur doesn't have golden flowy hair also he's darker
heres what I need, star clan internal schism holy war.
Moonkitti, Kestrelflight is RIGHT THERE he is the perfect cat to replace Ashfurs spot
this needed to be the april fools video
you don't control me
I loved every minor character in Exile from ShadowClan. yes even this guy
All we need is an ashfur in riverclan, windclan, and skyclan and we'll have collected the full set
What about windclan?
You should make a video about how in Veil Of Shadows we never get told who Harestar made deputy after he exiled Crowfeather.
I think ashfur (shadowclan) should be ashheart just because I think we need more plausibly transgender characters made through editing accidents. it makes me feel seen
I headcanon old man trans ashfur now
Micro tiny charachters: TALLPOPPY MY BELOVED her name is really cute :
can u pls do a talking about Jayfeather
shadowclan ashfur makes the great journey without dying
You should do a I spoil Pinepaw and the forgotten world vid :)
Moonkitti can you please do one about cloudtail
7:12 is why i love your videos
Give. Me. Owlwhisker. Minitalk
This is entirely unrelated to the video, but I’ve been really trying to find one of moonkittis videos. Maybe jayfeather or crowfeather (I’m really not sure), says breezepelt all drawn out like burreeeezepelt. It popped into my mind and now I can’t find it.
Jingo
(From Sunrise, Power of Three)
IVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR SO LONG-
ashshadowclanfur
hell yeah
Ashfur from Shadowclan didn't just do anything bad, he didn't do anything in general
Alfador is a beautiful cat
wow i can't believe they would change ashfur like that. he used to be a child, and then? then he wasn't a child and was an adult. wow. wow.
7:13 basically exactly how my transition went, song and all
I remember noticing that there were 2 Ashfurs and just not caring because it was never brought up so why would it matter