Bobi Klintman is a fantastic pick up for any team we will miss him at The Taipans, he will be an asset to the pistons his energy is contagious i believe he will go a long way in the nba Go Bobi
I honestly don't agree with placing Ivey and Duren on the hot seat yet. I really didn't see any real efforts towards their development last year from a coaching perspective. Ivey was placed in an awkward position that we all are aware of. The only player I would understand being placed on a hot seat is Isaiah Stewart. However, let Trajan continue to build this team and give these young men a fair chance.
Duren had the opportunity via progression but I do get your perspective overall. Ivey & Duren next to the focal core via Ausar & Killian had a 40% win rate percentage. Cade when place with non shooters lost 28 straight consecutive in which 30 games into the season, he had a win percentage of 6%. Drafting Holland is nothing but a tank propaganda which will lead to Ivey & Duren exclusion unjustly.
Why would a good defender shooting 38% from three be on the hot seat? Diren should be on the hot seat because he played bad defense with little to no improvement over the prior year. Sadly Ivey will probably compete for MIP after the Pistons trade him.
@pheralanpathfinder4897 for starters, Isaiah only shoots like three shots a game. He has almost no impact on the offensive end of the court. There's no way he helps space the floor. He's going into this year on his 5th season at 23 years of age. Since you brought up his stats, tell me where he's improved?? Duren had far more impact on the game last year as a 19 year old kid. You expect him to be developed at 20 years of age defensively? Let's give Duren the same amount of time Stew has had, and I bet Duren comes out far more superior. It would be absolutely stupid for us to allow Duren to be traded at this early point in his career.
@philosoqhy I actually like the Holland pick. I understand that it may seem like a bad move. However, look at the upside to his potential. I don't believe Trajan is tanking this team. I think he's laying the blueprint out to complete what Weaver should have accomplished. It's obvious Trajan is taking every players development seriously by the staff he's hiring. I'm looking forward to who'll be our new coach.
@@luniz4209 yup He plays like Cade should play get to the rack with ease not depending on a 3pter which is 50/50 at best on anyones best night. Getting to the rack increase your chances to 75-80% and one
Alex Sarr and Bobbi Klintman had similar stats and played in the same league. And when they played against each other Bobi Klintman scored 24 pts on Sarr.
Bobi, Mike miller, Gallinari, their agent, Arn Tellem. We know who's had more power on this team for the last five or seven years, and it hasn't been any coach or GM......
Lol the debate is a joke. A really big show. Nice circus we got in the US. One candidate was purposely kept from the debate even. Lol in a real society that operated under reality's rules, that wouldn't happen, but they're openly telling you this is a joke basically.
I doubt KCP would come back even for $30M a year. But Harris might be willing to. Maybe we can get a future 2nd or pick swap to take on Hardaway's contract. Guess we have to get ready for a complete rebuild. Honestly even running back the same team without Monty's all bench lineups should get us 16 or 17 wins, if Cade can stay healthy.
@@scottwickett1273 Well the return right now would not be good. Hopefully Bickerstaff can help develop them into good players. Both players have the potential to be allstars
@@Jamar-lg9ob And has not been good, while Huerter has at various times. (Vezenkov also got salary-dumped to the Raps, I have no idea if he's a rotation level player OR if he's gonna get moved again.)
@@scottwickett1273 the majority only criticize him for his shooting for whatever reason. IMO his defense isn’t as bad as everyone says he just either over commits or seems a bit lost, he isn’t hopeless on that end but he will never be the best defender on a team he just needs to be average on defense
@@nuggiesss6193His shooting is only part of his issues. He’s also not a good finisher, which imo, is a bigger issue because that’s what people thought he would be good at coming in to the league. And his defense is that bad.
@@nuggiesss6193 I am not the majority, and I definitely think his defense is every bit as terrible as generally described. The fact that he can't shoot is just another reason to trade him.
@@nuggiesss6193funny you say Ivey’s defense isn’t that bad and then describe the things he does that makes it horrible. IMO he and Duren need to defend with his feet more and to stay down. Both end up with a lot of reach ins when they are out of position and foul coming down from falling for pump fakes.
How the hell is duren not one of the pistons young cornerstones. Yall lost me on that take. 14pts 11rebounds and he plays d and plays like a real big man
Agreed dude slow pace is making our offense struggle and his pace ain’t really helping us that much or even him he can’t stay healthy and he don’t even move fast or athletic smh
They took this guy at #37 when at #53 they picked an actual shooter, but trade for this questionable Swedish player, stupid. Need shooters in this new NBA, ask the Warriors
Very good picks I think the shooting can teach Ivey Thompson and Holland shooting 40 percent n two way wing all stars very athletic fast defenseful dawgs
Bobi Klintman is a fantastic pick up for any team we will miss him at The Taipans, he will be an asset to the pistons his energy is contagious i believe he will go a long way in the nba Go Bobi
That's great news, thanks!
ausar thompson this guy and ron holland would be crazy on the defense end holy moly can't wait to see the players in action in a game!!!!!!!!!!!
This was a great pick, a big that can stretch the floor.
Ron Holland , Cade Cunningham , Ausar Thompson , Jalen Duren , Jaden Ivey
I honestly don't agree with placing Ivey and Duren on the hot seat yet. I really didn't see any real efforts towards their development last year from a coaching perspective. Ivey was placed in an awkward position that we all are aware of. The only player I would understand being placed on a hot seat is Isaiah Stewart. However, let Trajan continue to build this team and give these young men a fair chance.
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Duren had the opportunity via progression but I do get your perspective overall. Ivey & Duren next to the focal core via Ausar & Killian had a 40% win rate percentage. Cade when place with non shooters lost 28 straight consecutive in which 30 games into the season, he had a win percentage of 6%. Drafting Holland is nothing but a tank propaganda which will lead to Ivey & Duren exclusion unjustly.
Why would a good defender shooting 38% from three be on the hot seat?
Diren should be on the hot seat because he played bad defense with little to no improvement over the prior year.
Sadly Ivey will probably compete for MIP after the Pistons trade him.
@pheralanpathfinder4897 for starters, Isaiah only shoots like three shots a game. He has almost no impact on the offensive end of the court. There's no way he helps space the floor. He's going into this year on his 5th season at 23 years of age. Since you brought up his stats, tell me where he's improved?? Duren had far more impact on the game last year as a 19 year old kid. You expect him to be developed at 20 years of age defensively? Let's give Duren the same amount of time Stew has had, and I bet Duren comes out far more superior. It would be absolutely stupid for us to allow Duren to be traded at this early point in his career.
@philosoqhy I actually like the Holland pick. I understand that it may seem like a bad move. However, look at the upside to his potential. I don't believe Trajan is tanking this team. I think he's laying the blueprint out to complete what Weaver should have accomplished. It's obvious Trajan is taking every players development seriously by the staff he's hiring. I'm looking forward to who'll be our new coach.
I can still remember when we owned the 31st pick.
And 32!
This pod made me feel a little better about this. I hope Ron Holland puts in the work.
Ivey needs a chance to grow he is still very young gonna be a star ✨
Charlotte probably would've drafted Holland if Det didnt
Atlanta should have
He didn’t have to shoot he’s unstoppable
You think he's better than Cade who can do the same thing and gets stopped in the NBA?
@@luniz4209 yup He plays like Cade should play get to the rack with ease not depending on a 3pter which is 50/50 at best on anyones best night. Getting to the rack increase your chances to 75-80% and one
i cant believe Jared Goff is taking time from his honeymoon to talk Pistons Draft! What a great guy!
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Alex Sarr and Bobbi Klintman had similar stats and played in the same league. And when they played against each other Bobi Klintman scored 24 pts on Sarr.
He’s a poor mans pascal siakam which when pascal came to the league he played in the gleague for a minute as well.
Whoooa did the Pistons trade Grimes for Hardaway ooooh nooooo we get 3 second round picks
Bobi, Mike miller, Gallinari, their agent, Arn Tellem. We know who's had more power on this team for the last five or seven years, and it hasn't been any coach or GM......
1st Listen...I stopped watching the presidential debate for this. Ku keep dropping the goods. Word up.
Lol the debate is a joke. A really big show. Nice circus we got in the US. One candidate was purposely kept from the debate even. Lol in a real society that operated under reality's rules, that wouldn't happen, but they're openly telling you this is a joke basically.
@@kwyatt261 I don't trust anybody who would want the job, and it's not like anybody is changing their mind about who to vote for at this point.
@@scottwickett1273 I agree. There is no candidate who won't sell us out to private equity.
I doubt KCP would come back even for $30M a year. But Harris might be willing to. Maybe we can get a future 2nd or pick swap to take on Hardaway's contract. Guess we have to get ready for a complete rebuild. Honestly even running back the same team without Monty's all bench lineups should get us 16 or 17 wins, if Cade can stay healthy.
I'll take Harris..give him a starting job...don't want Hardaway....he launches waaay to much from anywhere.....
@@JerryMcKinnie That's where his value comes from. This team needs that.
You taking to long, let your guess talk more, make your questions shorter.
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Your grammar is really bad, but I agree
Too many typos for you to be trying to critique someone lol
@@ericphillips9348It's RUclips not English class who tf cares if his grammar is bad. You get what he's saying
People talking about grammar on the internet is so annoying lol. I ain’t writing an essay. It’s a RUclips comment lol 😂
Kcp is getting older..he only makes 15 mil a year...give him 18 mil 3 yrs he may jump🎉😊
Bares repeating, Cade must be surrounded by only players his height or bigger. Watch the prospects in Vegas verses subpar G league.
That's why my personal vision is Ausar at the 2 and Ron at the 3, eventually.
So we don't want to surround Cade with the best players, just tall ones?
Length is nice but skill is better.
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 It is unequivocally going to require both.
If you try to force the shot he should get a running start and posterize punish them
Hello Locked On Pistons
Defense win championships not 3s
It takes both...
Chat how we feel bout the draft ?
Trading Ivey or duren right now would be completely brainless
It always depends on the return: I think both suck and want to see a good trade before everyone else finds out!
@@scottwickett1273 Well the return right now would not be good. Hopefully Bickerstaff can help develop them into good players. Both players have the potential to be allstars
Trade for 6'7" Kevin Heurter whom Langdon knows well.
Sasha venzenko cheaper better fit
@@Jamar-lg9ob And has not been good, while Huerter has at various times.
(Vezenkov also got salary-dumped to the Raps, I have no idea if he's a rotation level player OR if he's gonna get moved again.)
@@scottwickett1273 he Klay Thompson at pf perfect fit for Pistons and get Kessler from jazz
@@scottwickett1273 didn't know he went to raptors
@@scottwickett1273 he balled last year with limited opportunity what are you talking about
what's the bigger deal that the Pistons and Timberwolves trade coming in July about? Is Detroit getting Naz?
It was horrible coaching!!!
I wish pistons took that stretch 5 that the warriors got.
We should keep at least 8 of our your players...draft some good vets..since Miles wont b back..look for a good bk up bigman in center
Wait, EIGHT?!?!?
If Ivey shoots even 34% from 3 everybody is gonna switch up their opinion on trading him
Not unless his defense dramatically improves.
@@scottwickett1273 the majority only criticize him for his shooting for whatever reason. IMO his defense isn’t as bad as everyone says he just either over commits or seems a bit lost, he isn’t hopeless on that end but he will never be the best defender on a team he just needs to be average on defense
@@nuggiesss6193His shooting is only part of his issues. He’s also not a good finisher, which imo, is a bigger issue because that’s what people thought he would be good at coming in to the league. And his defense is that bad.
@@nuggiesss6193 I am not the majority, and I definitely think his defense is every bit as terrible as generally described.
The fact that he can't shoot is just another reason to trade him.
@@nuggiesss6193funny you say Ivey’s defense isn’t that bad and then describe the things he does that makes it horrible. IMO he and Duren need to defend with his feet more and to stay down. Both end up with a lot of reach ins when they are out of position and foul coming down from falling for pump fakes.
Detroit brick city
Teams are starting dump salary. Mage traded 3 seconds to dump R Jackson.
It takes both these days.
I wish we could have got RJ and two seconds. We need a veteran third string PG and future assets.
Bam From MIA
So another G League designation. Yay.
How the hell is duren not one of the pistons young cornerstones. Yall lost me on that take. 14pts 11rebounds and he plays d and plays like a real big man
The Ivey hate getting out of line mean while cade who only played half his games and average most turnovers can do no wrong
Do you genuinely not think Cade is good?
@@scottwickett1273 yeah he good just not a real pg
Agreed dude slow pace is making our offense struggle and his pace ain’t really helping us that much or even him he can’t stay healthy and he don’t even move fast or athletic smh
@@Jamar-lg9ob Violently disagree there.
@@farmerjohn3897 Holy fuck you're ignorant.
Holland II is just a more explosive Stanley Johnson
So nothing like Stanley Johnson at all, then.
You might as well say he's like 6-7 Muggsy Bogues.
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Okay, didn’t know who he was. Watched a highlight reel. Too many of my fellow Caucasians he played against to make an assessment.
They took this guy at #37 when at #53 they picked an actual shooter, but trade for this questionable Swedish player, stupid. Need shooters in this new NBA, ask the Warriors
Warriors had All time great shooters missed playoffs defense more of need and more important than shooting
Very good picks I think the shooting can teach Ivey Thompson and Holland shooting 40 percent n two way wing all stars very athletic fast defenseful dawgs
Fred vinison gets ausar even close to 40 percent and he immediately becomes the most valuable asset in the league.
You’re on drugs claiming any of them will shoot 40% from 3